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| 00:26.20 | donny_baker | ~brlcad++ |
| 00:27.50 | brlcad | basically just ignore the warning :) |
| 00:28.29 | brlcad | it auto-sizes for you (like I'd hoped/presumed) creating resizes for whatever sizes reference that image |
| 00:29.03 | brlcad | pretty basic stuff, but the warning and that message threw me for a sec |
| 00:34.45 | donny_baker | k... that is what I figured |
| 00:36.00 | donny_baker | there was a suggestion to internationaize the wiki (add languages) |
| 00:36.12 | donny_baker | anyone of the opinion that it will be used? |
| 00:36.51 | brlcad | about as frequently used as our in-game i10n |
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| 00:55.36 | Win_Away | hiya |
| 00:56.00 | whodaman- | Hi |
| 00:56.04 | whodaman- | oh |
| 00:56.09 | whodaman- | it's you :p |
| 00:56.22 | Win_Away | yes |
| 00:57.01 | Macrosoft | donny_baker: wikipedia uses different domain prefixes for different wiki languages (<language_abbreviation>.wikipedia.org) |
| 00:57.14 | Win_Away | AOL.bzwiki.org? :p |
| 00:57.27 | Win_Away | "lul dis is a bux. It maks mapz" |
| 00:58.08 | Macrosoft | en.my.bzflag.org/w/ |
| 00:58.15 | donny_baker | Macrosoft: oh, that makes sense |
| 00:58.33 | brlcad | Macrosoft: I'm sure he already knows that .. there's more to it than that effort-wise under the hood I'm sure |
| 00:59.09 | donny_baker | yes, there is interwiki linking that allows links to the same page in another language |
| 00:59.52 | donny_baker | and they (wikipedia) do it with some sort of tagging from what I have seen |
| 01:00.27 | donny_baker | so it only shows links to other forieng language wikis where the page exists |
| 01:00.31 | brlcad | having a language prefix for all of the bzflag.org domains would be funny, and potentially useful |
| 01:00.51 | brlcad | even more funny if we have all the in-game languages as site languages |
| 01:01.32 | donny_baker | wt? |
| 01:01.34 | brlcad | rn.bzflag.org/w/Git_r_done |
| 01:02.12 | brlcad | which would of course correspond to en.bzflag.org/w/How_to_win |
| 01:02.20 | donny_baker | :) |
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| 01:03.54 | Macrosoft | ...just replace all vowel sounds with "er" and you have it. it's impossible to figure out what he says, we would just nod our heads like we knew what he said |
| 01:04.18 | brlcad | macersoff |
| 01:04.39 | Macrosoft | mercrerserft |
| 01:04.43 | Win_Away | ROFL |
| 01:05.27 | brlcad | mmm.. brlcurd |
| 01:06.01 | Win_Away | brlturd |
| 01:11.15 | TJ13820 | macroshat |
| 01:11.23 | TJ13820 | we make it hard to notice |
| 01:11.33 | JeffM | that's quite enough of that |
| 01:12.02 | TJ13820 | yes sir... |
| 01:12.26 | TJ13820 | :-P |
| 01:13.51 | TJ13820 | off to minimize my life by maximizing output (getting rid of Microsoft from my home is an ouput, right??) |
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| 01:34.50 | Macrosoft | is there a "-force" option to make bzfs load a plugin even if the api versions dont match? |
| 01:35.06 | a_meteorite | that would be dangerous if there was |
| 01:35.26 | a_meteorite | sometimes the API really does make a change that breaks everything, it doesn't try to play nice with other versions |
| 01:36.00 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: you have to explicitly call this option, so you dont have to worry about loading the wrong version accidently |
| 01:36.09 | blast007 | the 2.99.x API will not have that issue |
| 01:36.26 | a_meteorite | blast007: why's that? you have an API for each revision? |
| 01:36.27 | blast007 | well, technically the 3.0 API won't |
| 01:36.36 | blast007 | items are versioned |
| 01:36.40 | a_meteorite | or define the changes between each one |
| 01:36.47 | Macrosoft | i want to use a 2.0.8 plugin in 2.0.10, and i dont have the source |
| 01:36.48 | a_meteorite | that will get complicated really fast... |
| 01:36.55 | blast007 | Macrosoft: then you can't |
| 01:37.24 | blast007 | Macrosoft: ask the other to release the source |
| 01:37.44 | Macrosoft | blast007: the source is lost |
| 01:39.15 | Macrosoft | i could make another user account, rig bzfs to pass the version test, and see if it crashes |
| 01:39.41 | Macrosoft | ...that way if it crashes, it cant destroy any important stuff |
| 01:41.22 | a_meteorite | what does the plugin do that could destroy stuff? |
| 01:42.06 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: probably nothing, it's just to be safe |
| 01:42.35 | a_meteorite | does it work with files? if not, only a broken OS would really mess with your files during a crash... |
| 01:43.58 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: it doesnt use any files, but if it crashes, then i wouldnt be suprised if it does weird stuff like that |
| 01:44.05 | a_meteorite | umm ok |
| 02:01.06 | blast007 | Macrosoft: the API version is changed for a reason |
| 02:01.22 | blast007 | it's like trying to join a 1.7 client to a 2.0.x server |
| 02:04.33 | DTRemenak|RDP | not really. the client must have a complete network protocol to operate properly, whereas most plugins use only a fraction of the api |
| 02:04.48 | DTRemenak | that said, there's still no way to do it |
| 02:05.49 | DTRemenak | short of altering the plugin to lie about what api version it uses, I suppose |
| 02:06.01 | blast007 | DTRemenak: we don't completely chage the protocol each major version either though ;) |
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| 02:06.42 | blast007 | Macrosoft: what plugin is it? |
| 02:06.59 | DTRemenak | blast007: no, but a "partially compliant" client is just as completely useless as a "completely noncompliant" client :) |
| 02:07.37 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:07.42 | DTRemenak | and actually, tupone ran slightly altered 1.11 clients on 1.10 servers for a long time, iirc |
| 02:08.52 | blast007 | I think he or someone had even released a patch for that |
| 02:09.24 | DTRemenak | it's one way to make sure you don't get client regressions |
| 02:10.10 | nn-server | hi |
| 02:10.41 | blast007 | hi nn-server |
| 02:11.18 | nn-server | is there a way in the newer versions of bzflag that plugins can make and define spesilized flags |
| 02:11.48 | Macrosoft | nn-server: use the useless flag |
| 02:12.00 | DTRemenak | 2.99 can |
| 02:12.07 | Macrosoft | nn-server: take a look at the uselessMine plugin |
| 02:12.15 | nn-server | but what if you have 3 plugins useing the us flag |
| 02:12.27 | DTRemenak | then you have to wait for 3.0 |
| 02:12.37 | nn-server | ok |
| 02:15.48 | nn-server | also i think they should make a set of flags that lay mines where they were grabed |
| 02:16.02 | nn-server | sebeding apon mine type |
| 02:16.21 | nn-server | it is really anoying to type /mine all the time |
| 02:17.02 | DTRemenak | bind a key to it |
| 02:17.10 | nn-server | MS mine shockwave etc |
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| 03:16.36 | Winny | any idea what this means? http://pastebin.ca/858072 |
| 03:19.33 | Winny | it appeared right as BZFS crashed |
| 03:34.16 | spldart | Had bzfs been running a while first? |
| 03:34.47 | Winny | not really |
| 03:34.52 | Winny | Id say ~3 days |
| 03:34.54 | spldart | And did you build on the local machine |
| 03:35.04 | Winny | yep |
| 03:35.24 | spldart | even a few hours ansers the first as yes... hrm |
| 03:35.57 | spldart | Did it restart successfully? |
| 03:36.01 | Winny | yes |
| 03:37.23 | spldart | Totally wierd.. |
| 03:37.42 | Winny | I better go to bed |
| 03:37.45 | Winny | cya tommorow |
| 03:37.50 | spldart | okies |
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| 03:38.52 | spldart | I wonder.. did you execute another proggie @ the time this one crashed? You can answer tomorrow... If not did your machine do some auto operation @ the moment this happened |
| 03:39.28 | Winny | spldart: no idea.. Im not the only one on the box |
| 03:40.07 | spldart | I'm wondering if someone did something that either changed a app in /usr/lib or changed permission on something in /usr/lib... but I maybe totally off on this |
| 03:42.01 | spldart | I'm surprised one of the experts hasn't weighed in on this ;-) |
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| 05:32.20 | brlcad | mm, how does +f work... |
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| 12:59.31 | Epyon_ | brlcad, any idea how to handle problems with CIA commits? I have one that neither cleanup nor update fixes :/ |
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| 18:05.08 | JeffM | awww no more star trek online :( |
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| 18:20.49 | hintzy64 | hey everyone, question for ya |
| 18:21.02 | hintzy64 | it's snowing here, so i thought it'd be fun to turn on snow in my server |
| 18:21.19 | hintzy64 | which i know how to do |
| 18:21.31 | hintzy64 | i also thought it'd be fun to make the ground slippery |
| 18:21.38 | JeffM | IIRC it's set _rainType snow |
| 18:21.56 | hintzy64 | i thought changing the value for friction would make it slippery, but it doesnt seem to do anything |
| 18:22.12 | hintzy64 | yeah, _fogMode linear and _rainType snow |
| 18:22.20 | JeffM | there ya go |
| 18:22.47 | hintzy64 | any thoughts on _friction? |
| 18:23.01 | JeffM | let me look and see how it's used |
| 18:23.03 | hintzy64 | k |
| 18:24.12 | JeffM | I don't see it being used |
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| 18:24.31 | hintzy64 | which would explain why nothing happened :-p |
| 18:24.34 | hintzy64 | oh well |
| 18:24.37 | JeffM | indeed |
| 18:24.52 | JeffM | you can try to use an acceleration value |
| 18:25.04 | JeffM | that will prevent changes in speed and direction over that rate |
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| 18:32.50 | hintzy64 | true |
| 18:34.15 | hintzy64 | hmm...not seeing that variable in my printout |
| 18:34.41 | JeffM | it's not a varialbe |
| 18:34.46 | JeffM | command line opiton |
| 18:34.47 | JeffM | -a |
| 18:35.02 | hintzy64 | ah |
| 18:35.26 | hintzy64 | bzflag snowball fight :-D |
| 18:35.28 | hintzy64 | hehehe |
| 18:37.06 | brlcad | Epyon_: can you be more specific? |
| 18:38.04 | hintzy64 | i'll have to play around with it |
| 18:38.06 | brlcad | sf folks have a cron job that cleans up repositories for some issues (cvs in particular), but you can try to get a clean checkout and make a commit |
| 18:38.15 | hintzy64 | thanks Jeff |
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| 22:00.49 | ducktapebz | hello everyone |
| 22:01.05 | Winny | hi |
| 22:01.05 | JeffM | hello |
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| 22:49.55 | Winny | cool, MSN is down |
| 22:50.08 | Winny | or just slow |
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| 23:16.24 | Birdie | very very slow |
| 23:16.31 | Birdie | i tried 20 times and could get on again |
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| 23:28.40 | L4m3r | uh... at least MSN doesn't split? hehe |
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