| 00:01.25 | me1 | is there a known bug where without doing anything the server says you killed a person 10-50 times in 5 seconds? |
| 00:01.47 | JeffM2501 | that dosn't sound like a known bug |
| 00:01.57 | JeffM2501 | there are exploits that can do that |
| 00:02.01 | me1 | ok |
| 00:02.19 | JeffM2501 | where did it happen? |
| 00:03.00 | me1 | once on nn's server, it said i killed my teammate 10 times, and got me kicked |
| 00:03.07 | me1 | and once on a laserball31's server |
| 00:03.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah someone is probalby screwing around |
| 00:03.29 | whodaman- | That sounds like some cheat |
| 00:03.36 | JeffM2501 | who did it say you killed? |
| 00:03.41 | whodaman- | :()iiiiiiiiiiiiii - somebody like that? |
| 00:03.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:03.52 | JeffM2501 | tis a weakness in the current system |
| 00:04.18 | me1 | it was another annonymous callsign, i don't remember |
| 00:04.24 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:04.25 | me1 | i think it was "i dont' know who" |
| 00:04.28 | JeffM2501 | get an admin there |
| 00:04.32 | whodaman- | he |
| 00:04.38 | whodaman- | *heh |
| 00:04.55 | me1 | on nns it was a diff guy, and there was someone there, i guess they didn't noticei t |
| 00:05.19 | Macrosoft | me1: you're being stalked by cheaters? |
| 00:05.24 | me1 | i guess |
| 00:05.33 | JeffM2501 | they are probalby just all over |
| 00:10.21 | brlcad | they've been posting instructions for cheats like that for weeks, not really surprising |
| 00:10.25 | brlcad | that was one of them iirc |
| 00:10.26 | SportChick | ~lart brlcad |
| 00:10.26 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at brlcad |
| 00:10.35 | brlcad | ~sushi SportChick |
| 00:10.36 | ibot | ACTION fishes madly all day long & brings the very best back, filets it carefully and serves SportChick the best, freshest sushi ever |
| 00:10.41 | SportChick | yay! |
| 00:10.46 | JeffM2501 | I'd think it'd be rather simple to prevent |
| 00:10.54 | SportChick | ok ok, |
| 00:10.58 | SportChick | ~sushi brlcad |
| 00:10.58 | ibot | ACTION fishes madly all day long & brings the very best back, filets it carefully and serves brlcad the best, freshest sushi ever |
| 00:10.58 | JeffM2501 | at least past the first kill |
| 00:11.20 | brlcad | yeah, probably a really stupid check the server isn't looking at .. did the kill message come from the player that was killed |
| 00:11.32 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 00:11.37 | JeffM2501 | the cheaters kill themselves |
| 00:11.52 | JeffM2501 | server needs to make sure they arn't dead |
| 00:11.53 | brlcad | then did they kill themselves while they were dead |
| 00:12.01 | JeffM2501 | that's the question |
| 00:12.24 | brlcad | and/or respawn too quickly if they had a means to kill/msgalive quickly |
| 00:12.27 | me1 | unless they spawn instantly, they have to be killed when ded |
| 00:12.40 | brlcad | they don't have to be killed to send a killed message |
| 00:12.55 | JeffM2501 | server dosn't check shots |
| 00:13.15 | brlcad | it did briefly |
| 00:13.18 | brlcad | I lost that patch :/ |
| 00:13.36 | brlcad | when I had it unpacking shots and tracking all positions |
| 00:14.13 | JeffM2501 | they must be spawning quick |
| 00:14.39 | JeffM2501 | cus there is a a check to make sure the deadie is not predeaded |
| 00:14.45 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.01 | me1 | it didn't show spawn or explotion |
| 00:15.05 | me1 | for that person |
| 00:15.07 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 00:15.19 | JeffM2501 | what version was the server? |
| 00:15.25 | brlcad | may be some other packet update they can send that marks them as alive |
| 00:15.49 | JeffM2501 | it is part of the state |
| 00:16.12 | brlcad | that marks them as alive in their state |
| 00:17.40 | me1 | the server i was on is down for some reason, but the other ports say 2.0.10 |
| 00:17.44 | JeffM2501 | MsgAlive looks to be the only one |
| 00:18.09 | JeffM2501 | that does have a rejoin wait time setting |
| 00:18.14 | JeffM2501 | tho it defaults to 0 |
| 00:18.47 | JeffM2501 | have to get a client and see what they are doing |
| 00:19.25 | JeffM2501 | unless something horibly wrong with the host |
| 00:19.36 | JeffM2501 | are they on the same machine/network? |
| 00:19.55 | me1 | its all bzfmaps.net |
| 00:20.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
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| 00:20.21 | JeffM2501 | perhaps he's not configured correctly |
| 00:20.51 | me1 | although this also happend on laserball31's server, which was compiled |
| 00:21.05 | JeffM2501 | that on another host? |
| 00:21.53 | me1 | yes |
| 00:22.02 | me1 | it was an ip address |
| 00:22.23 | me1 | 76.88.71.249:5154 |
| 00:22.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:22.38 | JeffM2501 | odd then |
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| 00:23.49 | Winny | stupid power outage. |
| 00:23.55 | whodaman- | heh |
| 00:24.04 | whodaman- | canada ftl. |
| 00:24.17 | Winny | nothing to do with canada |
| 00:24.39 | me1 | winny: my room loses power whenever my mom plugs in the vacuum, (do to some genius wiring in the house) |
| 00:24.55 | Winny | fun |
| 00:25.12 | me1 | yeah :\ |
| 00:26.09 | Winny | if I randomly sign off, you know where I went |
| 00:28.18 | me1 | did he have a power outage too? |
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| 00:51.48 | nn64 | hi again |
| 00:52.05 | JeffM2501 | word up |
| 00:54.35 | nn64 | do any of you know how to make a shell for loop that runs 4 commands I'm thinking of making a Huge map change server but i need to dump 2 or 3 lines into each mini config for each map in the mass map change setup somthing like this |
| 00:54.57 | JeffM2501 | shell should have loop functions |
| 00:55.26 | JeffM2501 | http://www.usd.edu/~sweidner/lsst/ch03sec05.html |
| 00:55.41 | JeffM2501 | that talks about loops in shell scripts |
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| 00:56.36 | nn64 | find ./ | head -n $i | tail -n 1 | xargs -I R echo "-public " Mass Map Change -> Id $i -> R " |
| 00:56.50 | nn64 | >> $i.conf |
| 00:57.06 | JeffM2501 | 1) pastebin |
| 00:57.14 | JeffM2501 | 2) out of context that means nothing realy |
| 00:57.18 | nn64 | then another similar line for the -world argument |
| 00:57.29 | JeffM2501 | 3) this isnt' realy a linux scripting channel |
| 00:58.13 | nn64 | ok |
| 00:58.38 | JeffM2501 | but if it runs one map at a time, why do you need a loop? |
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| 01:01.29 | nn64 | to make a configuration file for each map ; then a secound loop to dump the extrainious conf files into the map change conf |
| 01:01.50 | nn64 | then the loop to run the map change server |
| 01:01.59 | JeffM2501 | so standard for loops |
| 01:04.30 | me1 | if it matters, i just checked bzfmaps.net:5154 (its back online) and it has 2.0.11 linux devel |
| 01:05.02 | Constitution | nn64: you may want to use a more descriptive line of text in -public than simply the filename |
| 01:21.50 | rtfm | nn64: Added on to what Constitution said, I usually do <Map Name> by <Map Author> for my public description |
| 01:22.32 | rtfm | though I also name my map files to follow that convention (replaceing spaces with underscores) |
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| 01:47.37 | me1 | could one make a plugin so if someone has the team set to automatic it would send them to observer? and you could only play on that server if you had it set to purple or red for example? |
| 01:47.56 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 01:47.57 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 01:48.04 | Winny | IIRC someone set it up for a league |
| 01:48.13 | JeffM2501 | there is an event for team |
| 01:48.15 | Winny | Gnurdux it was I think |
| 01:48.29 | Gnurdux | oh i made it |
| 01:48.35 | me1 | you did? |
| 01:48.37 | Gnurdux | i probably still have it lying around |
| 01:49.59 | me1 | jeffm2501: for conviniance, like i usually have the team to auto, and whenever i join a league server i have to go through the painsteaking prosses of pressing a few buttons and change to observer team |
| 01:50.27 | Winny | heh |
| 01:50.45 | JeffM2501 | do you run the servers that this would be used on? |
| 01:51.19 | me1 | no |
| 01:51.25 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 01:51.26 | me1 | but it could be suggested |
| 01:51.29 | Gnurdux | me1, it wasnt a plugin |
| 01:51.35 | Gnurdux | what i did |
| 01:51.38 | Gnurdux | it was a direct mod |
| 01:51.47 | JeffM2501 | I highly doubt that you could convince server owners to do that |
| 01:51.48 | me1 | ok |
| 01:51.51 | Gnurdux | lemme see why |
| 01:52.33 | me1 | it was just an idea i had |
| 01:54.11 | Gnurdux | it can't be done as a plugin because whether the user requests automatic isn't passed to the bzfs API |
| 01:54.34 | JeffM2501 | it isn't? |
| 01:54.40 | rtfm | for 3.0, I think it would be cool to join everyone initially as observer, so they can see who is online, and then pick a team after that |
| 01:54.41 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah |
| 01:54.51 | JeffM2501 | it just says what we are going to GIVE them |
| 01:55.33 | rtfm | (since a lot of FPS games do that, and it works pretty well) |
| 01:55.46 | JeffM2501 | some do some don't |
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| 01:55.53 | rtfm | I think it would work really good for leagues |
| 01:55.56 | JeffM2501 | it would be nice to let the server specifiy it |
| 01:56.08 | JeffM2501 | well for leauges the server shoudl pick for you |
| 01:56.08 | Gnurdux | has team switching been implemented yet? |
| 01:56.14 | JeffM2501 | 3.0 can do it |
| 01:56.18 | rtfm | JeffM2501: well, sure |
| 01:56.28 | Gnurdux | right, it can't be done in 2.0.x because of protocol |
| 01:56.30 | JeffM2501 | if it's a leauge you shoudl be in a group, when you join and auth, you shoudl be put only on the team you want. |
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| 01:56.35 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, more cus of the client |
| 02:02.26 | me1 | is 2.2.0 officially 3.0? or is 3.0 something different entirely? |
| 02:02.48 | Gnurdux | 2.2 became 3.0 |
| 02:02.59 | me1 | ok |
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| 02:08.40 | QuantumTim | bah, freenode is lame |
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| 02:10.26 | QuantumTim | I can't change my nick because "QuantumTim #bzflag Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks" |
| 02:10.32 | QuantumTim | I can't send to channel because I'm not registered |
| 02:10.38 | QuantumTim | but I can't register, because my nick was wrong |
| 02:12.12 | nn64 | wow oups no wonder my server was beginning to look like a problem I didn't relize how many library map servers I had |
| 02:12.29 | QuantumTim | anyway, I was about to say: |
| 02:12.35 | QuantumTim | hmm, what's with the bug where everything suddenly goes into super-slow-mo |
| 02:13.39 | nn64 | I have gotten to about half of them to day will have to get to the rest tomarrow or the next day after tomarrow |
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| 02:18.43 | Gnurdux | whoa thats an awesome error |
| 02:18.50 | Gnurdux | Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks |
| 02:19.00 | JeffM2501 | that's be freenode |
| 02:19.04 | QuantumTim | aye :( |
| 02:19.33 | JeffM2501 | happens to me too |
| 02:19.34 | Gnurdux | how come nick change counts as send to channel and join doesnt? |
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| 02:19.52 | QuantumTim | Gnurdux: good point, no idea |
| 02:19.53 | JeffM2501 | because thats how they set it up |
| 02:20.26 | QuantumTim | yeah, but it seems silly |
| 02:20.40 | QuantumTim | I guess they made it like that to stop nick-change-spam or something |
| 02:20.49 | QuantumTim | but then you can just join/part-spam instead |
| 02:20.58 | rtfm | Gnurdux: there is a separate option for only allowing registered users to join |
| 02:22.01 | QuantumTim | so, are you aware of the super-slow-mo bug? |
| 02:24.17 | JeffM2501 | are you aware that we can't read your mind? |
| 02:25.08 | QuantumTim | well, I was guessing if you knew about it you'd know what I was talking about |
| 02:25.14 | QuantumTim | so I assume that's a no |
| 02:25.38 | QuantumTim | but it has happened to me several time now, so... |
| 02:25.40 | QuantumTim | anyway |
| 02:26.00 | QuantumTim | I have no idea what caused it, but suddenly everything goes into uber slow motion |
| 02:26.12 | JeffM2501 | dual core system? |
| 02:26.14 | JeffM2501 | on windows? |
| 02:26.22 | QuantumTim | I still get tank position updates, so they jitter around fairly normal speed |
| 02:26.25 | QuantumTim | not dual core |
| 02:26.32 | QuantumTim | but yes, xp |
| 02:26.37 | JeffM2501 | then dunno |
| 02:26.40 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
| 02:26.44 | QuantumTim | but all the bullets go really really slowly |
| 02:26.49 | QuantumTim | and I can only move slowly |
| 02:26.53 | QuantumTim | latest |
| 02:26.54 | QuantumTim | .10 |
| 02:27.17 | QuantumTim | I did manage to get chat through though, as someone was asking how I managed to talk even when nr |
| 02:27.56 | QuantumTim | and by slow-mo, I mean *really* slow. If I shoot, my bullets just sit in front of me, even after a couple of mins |
| 02:28.06 | QuantumTim | but I can just about see my tank moving |
| 02:28.33 | QuantumTim | it has happened with previous versions as well |
| 02:28.42 | JeffM2501 | sounds like problems on your system |
| 02:28.56 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: that's no bug, you must be The One! :p |
| 02:28.57 | QuantumTim | that and the random close happen about as often as each other |
| 02:29.04 | QuantumTim | Macrosoft: hehe, I wish |
| 02:29.27 | QuantumTim | hmm, could be my system, but I don't seem to have any other problems |
| 02:29.37 | QuantumTim | it's a rather weird bug though |
| 02:30.10 | QuantumTim | other tanks positions seem to update okay (albeit slightly less smoothly), and the chat was working |
| 02:31.09 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: so the others arent moving in slo-mo? |
| 02:31.17 | QuantumTim | nope |
| 02:31.26 | Macrosoft | wow, that sucks |
| 02:31.30 | QuantumTim | well, they just jump around on the radar / screen a bit |
| 02:31.39 | QuantumTim | but according to them, I'd gone nr |
| 02:32.16 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: is your framerate the same as normal when this happens? |
| 02:32.30 | QuantumTim | I think so, but I didn't check |
| 02:33.01 | QuantumTim | if I shoot, the bullets appear normally |
| 02:33.18 | QuantumTim | although it would then probably take an hour or so to reload, so I only got a couple of shots off :p |
| 02:33.20 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: if i get a really slow framerate i can appear to be nr, or have high lag |
| 02:33.54 | QuantumTim | well, unless my framerate was 1e-3hz.... :p |
| 02:34.33 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: never mind then, the reloads and others stuffs should still work as normal |
| 02:34.39 | QuantumTim | aye |
| 02:35.02 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: sounds more like some kind of problem with timing |
| 02:35.08 | QuantumTim | yeah, it's not like it's a graphics glitch or something |
| 02:35.33 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: its like bz thinks 1 min = 1 sec |
| 02:36.20 | QuantumTim | hmm, what if the windows GetTickCount had overflowed? |
| 02:36.25 | QuantumTim | might that affect it? |
| 02:36.32 | JeffM2501 | for a smidge |
| 02:36.36 | QuantumTim | I usually hibernate rather than turn off my computer |
| 02:36.40 | JeffM2501 | if you played for over 29 days |
| 02:36.51 | JeffM2501 | the game would have to be on for that time |
| 02:36.54 | QuantumTim | yeah, but it's system wide |
| 02:37.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah but we get the start time when we start |
| 02:37.07 | Macrosoft | QuantumTim: i only fool around with the server code, i havent really looked into the client |
| 02:37.07 | JeffM2501 | even tho we dont' use tick count |
| 02:37.22 | JeffM2501 | tick count is a relitive time |
| 02:37.23 | QuantumTim | yeah, but if the start time was 2^32 - 100000, and I played for 110 secs |
| 02:37.32 | JeffM2501 | it rolls around |
| 02:37.37 | QuantumTim | hmm, I guess as long as you subtracted |
| 02:37.42 | JeffM2501 | it would only affect you if it rolled around WHEN you played |
| 02:37.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah whe HAVE to subtract |
| 02:37.45 | QuantumTim | comparisons would break though |
| 02:37.50 | JeffM2501 | that's the only way it would work |
| 02:37.57 | JeffM2501 | but we use the QPC anyway |
| 02:38.02 | QuantumTim | aah, okay |
| 02:49.59 | Macrosoft | brb |
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| 03:33.44 | nn64 | bzfmaps.net now has a 970 maps map change library located at bzfmaps.net:7200 |
| 03:33.55 | nn64 | index is at http://maps.bzfmaps.net/mass-change-index.conf |
| 03:38.26 | nn64 | the script is setup to allow for easy adition of mass amounts of maps to the mass map map change library |
| 03:39.34 | nn64 | have fun |
| 03:40.28 | spldart | Don |
| 03:40.30 | spldart | oh |
| 03:43.27 | spldart | Don't know if you look @ logs and if it's an issue but 485-'http://maps.bzfmaps.net/towersctf.bzw' and 564-'http://maps.bzfmaps.net/towers.map' seem dead |
| 03:43.35 | spldart | > nn64 |
| 03:46.38 | rtfm | spldart: you could try to PM him on the forum |
| 03:46.59 | spldart | true |
| 03:48.18 | rtfm | the towers.map is actuall Towers.map |
| 03:48.23 | rtfm | actually* |
| 03:48.27 | rtfm | unix is case sensitive |
| 03:50.24 | spldart | he has a towers and Towers |
| 03:50.56 | spldart | I know about case :-0\ |
| 03:52.32 | rtfm | he has tower and Towers, not towers |
| 03:55.16 | spldart | oo |
| 03:56.27 | spldart | oh... I found towers... diff /dir |
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| 06:07.05 | Flash | who owns bzfmaps.net? |
| 06:07.31 | a_meteorite | nn |
| 06:07.31 | brlcad | look it up |
| 06:08.00 | Flash | I'd be glad to, except I don't know how. Perhaps my question was too unspecific |
| 06:08.45 | Flash | who is responsible for dealing with cheaters (Nightmare) on the bzfmaps.net:6203 server? |
| 06:09.06 | a_meteorite | nn owns it, so him |
| 06:09.24 | Flash | oh, nn is a name. I thought it was an acronym I didn't know ;-) |
| 06:09.38 | a_meteorite | nn-main: ping |
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| 06:20.48 | brlcad | ~nn |
| 06:20.49 | ibot | nini |
| 06:20.52 | brlcad | :) |
| 06:23.04 | brlcad | ~nn is also an abbreviation for saying "nite nite" to indicate when someone is going to go to sleep |
| 06:23.04 | ibot | okay, brlcad |
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| 20:30.37 | jftsang | when compiling 2.x from trunk, I get 14>c1xx : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '..\..\src\bzflag\ClientAuthentication.cxx': No such file or directory |
| 20:31.20 | Winny | VC 9 has some "fun" stuff :) |
| 20:31.36 | jftsang | (addend: same with LoginMenu.cxx) |
| 20:31.55 | Winny | IIRC JeffM said to just copy the file from it's original location to the one it complains about |
| 20:32.19 | Tupone | jftsang: that file were removed, but probably not from projects |
| 20:32.37 | Tupone | those files |
| 20:33.22 | jftsang | Tupone: how do I remove those files? is there an XML file I edit or something? |
| 20:33.51 | Tupone | that I don't know, you are using project files I guess |
| 20:34.42 | jftsang | oh, found it :) and it was XML |
| 20:35.09 | Tupone | I'm totally against M$ tools, so you have to live on your own, or just don't expect any help from me. I'm unaware |
| 20:35.50 | jftsang | Don't blame you, the ./configure is (I believe) more logical |
| 20:37.37 | Tupone | I started something to build bzflag with a unix-like system for windows with free tools, to have a unified system to build. The whole idea was dropped |
| 20:38.16 | Tupone | s/started something to build/have built and commited/ |
| 20:40.14 | jftsang | that's sorted, now: 2>LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file '..\..\src\platform\platform.lib' |
| 20:43.16 | Tupone | do you have src\platform\platform.lib ? |
| 20:45.19 | jftsang | nope, no libs under \src\platform\ |
| 20:47.02 | jftsang | remove it from the project also? |
| 20:49.43 | JeffM | ohh yeah I have to update the other projects too don't I |
| 20:49.48 | JeffM | I did vC71 for branch |
| 20:50.00 | JeffM | Tupone, those files are gone for trunk and branch right? |
| 20:50.06 | JeffM | the login menu and client auth? |
| 20:50.12 | Tupone | yep |
| 20:50.15 | JeffM | ok |
| 20:50.45 | Tupone | jftsang: don't think so. JeffM can answer |
| 20:51.17 | JeffM | huh what? |
| 20:51.25 | Tupone | platform.lib |
| 20:51.26 | JeffM | platform didn't build? |
| 20:51.27 | Tupone | missing |
| 20:51.28 | JeffM | odd |
| 20:51.36 | JeffM | were there any errors? |
| 20:51.47 | jftsang | no compiling errors but linker error |
| 20:52.00 | JeffM | VC8 or 9? |
| 20:52.01 | jftsang | could not open file ..\..\src\platform\platform.lib |
| 20:52.04 | jftsang | VC8ee |
| 20:52.11 | jftsang | win32 |
| 20:52.18 | JeffM | release or debug? |
| 20:52.26 | jftsang | Release |
| 20:52.33 | jftsang | but that shouldn't have difference should it? |
| 20:52.35 | JeffM | right click on the platform project and hit build |
| 20:52.53 | JeffM | we've never set up VC8 for a full release so it may not be set properly |
| 20:52.56 | jftsang | .. |
| 20:53.04 | jftsang | platform is already built |
| 20:53.16 | JeffM | did it make platform.lib? |
| 20:53.36 | JeffM | oh oh, how many processes do you have it set to use on compile? |
| 20:53.38 | JeffM | more then one? |
| 20:53.43 | jftsang | not in the \src\platform\ directory |
| 20:53.55 | JeffM | tools ->options ->build orsomethin |
| 20:54.14 | JeffM | our dir layout dosn't let VC do more then one at a time and it eats libs |
| 20:55.00 | jftsang | do you mean "2 maximum number of parallel project builds"? |
| 20:55.03 | JeffM | yes |
| 20:55.06 | JeffM | set it to one |
| 20:55.08 | JeffM | then do a rebuild all |
| 20:55.16 | JeffM | we need to fix that |
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| 20:55.51 | JeffM | soon I'll be upgrading all my stuff to VC8 (2005) and I'll have more time/interest in geting it all fixed. |
| 20:56.00 | JeffM | and making it be a viable build platform |
| 20:56.47 | Winny | JeffM: why not go to 9? ;) |
| 20:56.52 | JeffM | Winny, too new |
| 20:57.12 | JeffM | remember that bzflag isn't the only thing I use a compiler for |
| 20:57.55 | jftsang | I'll get some tea while it compiles :) bye |
| 20:58.03 | JeffM | we know we have 3rd party libs for VC8 |
| 20:58.08 | JeffM | and that it's been out a while |
| 20:58.11 | JeffM | so we'll go to that |
| 20:58.34 | JeffM | we will own VC9 so we can upgrade when it's stableised and been tested, and all the 3rd parties have moved up |
| 20:59.21 | Winny | ah |
| 21:00.23 | jftsang | it warns about a conversion from time_t to unsigned int several times |
| 21:00.54 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:01.00 | JeffM | now you are on 2005 or 2008? |
| 21:01.16 | jftsang | and //still// will it not link |
| 21:01.17 | JeffM | we don't have 64 bit clean code, so we get a lot of warnings like that |
| 21:01.33 | jftsang | and VC8ee2005 |
| 21:01.38 | JeffM | k |
| 21:01.58 | JeffM | there were no link errors in platform? |
| 21:02.17 | Winny | JeffM: that error is specific to 64 bit? |
| 21:02.35 | jftsang | on linking platform, it reports of .\release\BzfDisplay.obj |
| 21:02.44 | jftsang | LIB : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file '.\release\BzfDisplay.obj' |
| 21:03.05 | JeffM | Winny,it's a 64 bit compataiblity warning, time_t is a 64 bit type on 64 bit systems, so converting it to a 32bit unsigned int could loose data |
| 21:03.16 | JeffM | jftsang, ok there is your real error then |
| 21:03.30 | JeffM | let me get my stuff fired up |
| 21:03.42 | Winny | JeffM: sorry, I worded my question wrong: Does that only occur when you're building on a 64 bit system |
| 21:03.48 | JeffM | no |
| 21:04.04 | JeffM | by defayult VC since VC7 has started warning on possible 64 bit conversion issues |
| 21:04.16 | JeffM | so you'll get that even on 32bit |
| 21:04.19 | JeffM | it's just warning |
| 21:04.52 | Winny | ah, had me wondering If I was unknowingly running 64 bit for a second |
| 21:05.10 | JeffM | I don't belive we have a 64 bit build target on any of our projects |
| 21:05.12 | JeffM | I made one once |
| 21:05.19 | JeffM | it was slower then the 32bit version |
| 21:08.31 | JeffM | jftsang, did you have to do anything special for the dinput.lib or did my last changes for that work? |
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| 21:08.57 | jftsang | JeffM: what do you mean by that? |
| 21:09.32 | jftsang | I just installed DirectX April 2007 SDK, and that gave me dinput.lib, which compiled 2.99 perfectly |
| 21:09.38 | JeffM | ahhh |
| 21:09.38 | JeffM | ok |
| 21:09.50 | JeffM | i made changes to the projects that sould make it work with the newer SDKs |
| 21:10.10 | JeffM | but yeah april is the good one if you want force feedback |
| 21:10.19 | JeffM | and more then 32 buttons |
| 21:10.53 | jftsang | so, I must download SRC again from Subversion? |
| 21:11.07 | JeffM | god no |
| 21:11.11 | JeffM | svn update |
| 21:11.20 | jftsang | oh yeh, forgot about that :P |
| 21:11.24 | JeffM | that just gets the deltas |
| 21:11.31 | JeffM | you haveen't updated in a while have you? |
| 21:11.41 | jftsang | =p |
| 21:11.51 | Winny | heh |
| 21:11.54 | JeffM | that may explain why your results are difrent then mine |
| 21:11.58 | JeffM | get latest |
| 21:13.51 | jftsang | At revision 16458. -- Am I supposed to get any other output? |
| 21:14.06 | L4m3r | that means you're at the latest revision |
| 21:14.15 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:15.30 | jftsang | and all is good and resolved, and they all linked happily ever after |
| 21:16.27 | JeffM | cool |
| 21:18.21 | jftsang | I spoke too soon :( zlib1.dll not found |
| 21:18.56 | jftsang | umm... How come it's not in the 2.0.10 release then? |
| 21:19.23 | JeffM | do you have a libCURL in your path? |
| 21:19.26 | JeffM | from 2.0.x? |
| 21:19.58 | jftsang | I have libcurl |
| 21:20.11 | JeffM | in your VC build directories? |
| 21:20.32 | jftsang | um, don't think so o_0 |
| 21:20.41 | JeffM | like tools ->options -> directories |
| 21:20.45 | JeffM | double check |
| 21:20.45 | jftsang | I kind of stole it from elsewhere |
| 21:20.58 | JeffM | remove it, cus trunk includes it's own |
| 21:21.05 | JeffM | and links to our own internal zlib |
| 21:21.11 | JeffM | your pobably using an external one |
| 21:21.18 | JeffM | cus branch needed an external one |
| 21:21.39 | JeffM | you can use your external one, you'll just have to move over it's zlibdll |
| 21:25.19 | jftsang | but in the 2.x version I see a zlib project; is that supposed to do anything in particular? |
| 21:26.00 | JeffM | we use that internaly |
| 21:26.02 | JeffM | and link it staticly |
| 21:26.20 | JeffM | the curl you are using ( one that is not the same as our internal one ) is looking for a zlib dll |
| 21:26.24 | JeffM | our zlib dosn't build a dll |
| 21:26.33 | JeffM | since we link it internaly |
| 21:26.41 | JeffM | basicly we changed own we build and link curl |
| 21:26.56 | JeffM | the 2.0.x way actualy gets in the way of the 2.99 way |
| 21:27.12 | JeffM | so if you have a lib curl in your path you need to remove it |
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| 21:39.09 | jftsang | so in the directories, I include "include" and "lib" but not "bin"? |
| 21:49.18 | JeffM | jftsang, no you shold NOT have anything in there |
| 21:49.34 | JeffM | have you build branch on this system before? |
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| 22:00.46 | jftsang | no, I have not built branch before on this system |
| 22:01.40 | jftsang | and if I don't put in "include" and "lib" it says could not find curl.h |
| 22:02.04 | JeffM | we have our own libcurl |
| 22:02.09 | JeffM | it shoudl be using that |
| 22:04.06 | jftsang | 2.x though, not 2.99 |
| 22:04.18 | JeffM | wait |
| 22:04.23 | JeffM | are you building branch or trunk? |
| 22:04.25 | jftsang | no, not 2.x, 2.0.x rather |
| 22:04.36 | JeffM | branch ( 2.0.x) needs a curl |
| 22:04.38 | jftsang | (from here: https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag) |
| 22:04.49 | JeffM | oh damn your on branch |
| 22:05.04 | JeffM | you said trunk at first |
| 22:05.17 | JeffM | no wonder your stuff is totaly difrent |
| 22:05.19 | jftsang | hmm? did I? |
| 22:05.35 | JeffM | <jftsang> when compiling 2.x from trunk, I get 14>c1xx : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '..\..\src\bzflag\ClientAuthentication.cxx': No such file or directory |
| 22:05.50 | JeffM | for branch yeah you need a curl |
| 22:06.02 | JeffM | and if you don't build it youself it'll need that zlib DLL |
| 22:06.02 | jftsang | sorry there.. :-( |
| 22:06.23 | jftsang | which I simply google for? |
| 22:06.42 | JeffM | probably |
| 22:06.55 | JeffM | or grab the libcurl dll and zlib from the last release |
| 22:07.02 | JeffM | we include them in the binary |
| 22:09.09 | jftsang | erm, I can see libcurl.dll in with the release |
| 22:09.16 | jftsang | but I don't see zlib anywhere |
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| 22:14.11 | JeffM | that one probably staticly links zlib |
| 22:14.20 | JeffM | just throw that in your root dir |
| 22:14.22 | JeffM | and try to run |
| 22:19.25 | jftsang | that's better :) |
| 22:19.55 | jftsang | thanks |
| 22:20.35 | jftsang | oh, and bzadmin has a linker error, could not open pdcurses.lib |
| 22:21.41 | JeffM | cus you need curses |
| 22:21.45 | JeffM | get it |
| 22:21.57 | JeffM | branch is not setup to build "out of the box" |
| 22:22.22 | JeffM | you shoudl also know you can't distribute those binaries since you used EE |
| 22:24.34 | jftsang | k |
| 22:27.16 | jftsang | erm, so that means I can't distribute any plugins I make either? |
| 22:27.55 | JeffM | plugiuns are fine |
| 22:27.58 | JeffM | they don't use the runtimes |
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| 22:49.45 | lendusaquid | hello |
| 22:49.47 | AHA | hi |
| 22:50.05 | lendusaquid | well thats a start :) |
| 22:50.44 | lendusaquid | any bzflag experts here ? |
| 22:50.53 | TheRedBaron | what kind of experts? |
| 22:50.58 | AHA | yes |
| 22:51.02 | AHA | there are many kinds |
| 22:51.17 | TheRedBaron | I'm an expert at being shot |
| 22:51.20 | lendusaquid | i cant join a game type problem |
| 22:51.30 | AHA | what error are you getting? |
| 22:51.35 | AHA | and which server? |
| 22:52.23 | lendusaquid | its on 2 castles and the message is--refused:rejoining to stop ctf by denverd |
| 22:52.42 | AHA | you were banned |
| 22:52.44 | JeffM | your IP was banned or blocked for some reason |
| 22:52.47 | JeffM | try another server |
| 22:52.56 | JeffM | probably just got hit in a range from another cheater |
| 22:53.05 | AHA | talk to the owner (Pimpi i think) about iut |
| 22:53.06 | AHA | *it |
| 22:53.19 | lendusaquid | um ok |
| 22:54.01 | lendusaquid | sometimes i have a bad day and shoot my own team alot |
| 22:54.14 | lendusaquid | wonder if that was it |
| 22:54.40 | AHA | It says you rejoined to stop a capture |
| 22:54.53 | AHA | it might have been by accident thouigh |
| 22:54.55 | AHA | *though |
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| 22:56.04 | lendusaquid | when i first tryed to join the game tonight my name came up on the screen but i was not in the game |
| 22:56.22 | lendusaquid | do the servers get reset ? |
| 22:56.54 | Winny | they use a banlist |
| 22:57.02 | Winny | oh, regarding that |
| 22:57.05 | Winny | just rjeoin |
| 22:58.42 | lendusaquid | ill have another go tomorrow night |
| 23:01.02 | lendusaquid | i just tried to rejoin but still no luck ,o well |
| 23:01.11 | AHA | which server? |
| 23:01.18 | lendusaquid | hold on |
| 23:01.20 | AHA | two castles still? |
| 23:01.28 | lendusaquid | yes |
| 23:01.43 | AHA | you are still banned |
| 23:01.47 | AHA | it doesnt get removed instantly |
| 23:02.15 | lendusaquid | did i get banned by DenverD ? |
| 23:02.29 | AHA | I dont know |
| 23:02.41 | AHA | does it say you were? |
| 23:02.41 | JeffM | ther are 200+ servers, just try another one |
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| 23:03.02 | lendusaquid | i can join any other game |
| 23:03.37 | AHA | lendusaquid: try messaging Pimpi and explain to him what happened |
| 23:03.37 | lendusaquid | 2 castles is the game i allways play |
| 23:03.54 | lendusaquid | how do i message him ? |
| 23:04.03 | AHA | on BZBB? |
| 23:04.13 | AHA | on IRC? (IRCname Pimpi) |
| 23:04.46 | lendusaquid | this is the first time i have used irc |
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| 23:05.11 | catay | lendusaquid: under which callsign were you playing? |
| 23:05.23 | AHA | lendusaquid: try using: /msg Pimpi *put your message here* |
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| 23:05.44 | lendusaquid | lendusaquid1 to start with |
| 23:08.09 | catay | lendusaquid: you got banned for a week cause of rejoining to stop of ctf |
| 23:08.32 | lendusaquid | but i didnt |
| 23:08.40 | catay | lendusaquid: send denverd a private message on bzbb about it |
| 23:08.47 | lendusaquid | ok |
| 23:09.11 | catay | i'm sure he will understand if you explain it to him and undo it |
| 23:09.23 | lendusaquid | whats bzbb? |
| 23:09.39 | catay | http://my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 23:09.44 | lendusaquid | ok |
| 23:09.47 | lendusaquid | thanks |
| 23:09.51 | catay | yw |
| 23:10.08 | catay | create an account and send him a private messae |
| 23:10.12 | catay | *message |
| 23:11.06 | lendusaquid | ok |
| 23:11.58 | nn-main | F687s, hi |
| 23:12.01 | nn-main | hi all |
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