| 00:00.49 | JeffM2501 | there is a package for the SMP one usualy |
| 00:02.45 | blast007 | re: playing BZFlag on the 845 chipset... on XP I usually get 24FPS at max quality (minus lighting and shadows) at 640x480... so yeah, not a great chipset, but certainly playable |
| 00:05.21 | Erroneous | heh, my dad emailed me a picture of a birthday cake :) |
| 00:05.39 | JeffM2501 | THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!! |
| 00:06.03 | Macrosoft | what's an rt kernel? |
| 00:06.12 | Gnurdux | real time support |
| 00:06.50 | Gnurdux | blast007, incidentally, fpses are how much higher on windows than on Linux? |
| 00:08.43 | JeffM2501 | then maybe the defalt is that now |
| 00:09.51 | Macrosoft | TD-Linux: how did you set core affinity for bzflag? |
| 00:10.53 | Erroneous | 2.99 has a config parameter for it |
| 00:22.38 | Macrosoft | JeffM2501: yeah, found "there is no longer a seperate smp kernel for multi-processor systems as they are supported by generic" |
| 00:22.48 | JeffM2501 | then there ya go |
| 00:29.09 | noyb | did I miss something? Is there a downloadable 2.0.10 macosx client already? |
| 00:30.40 | JeffM2501 | what do you think you missed? |
| 00:31.39 | JeffM2501 | the official binaries go on the source forge site |
| 00:31.44 | noyb | there's no 2.0.10 client download for macosx on sourceforge... I must be out of the loop... |
| 00:31.56 | JeffM2501 | you are correct, there isn't one |
| 00:32.06 | noyb | oh |
| 00:33.02 | Constitution | noyb: what version of osx? |
| 00:33.21 | JeffM2501 | there are testing vesions as Constitution I'm sure will link you to |
| 00:33.29 | noyb | 10.4.11 |
| 00:33.31 | JeffM2501 | but IIRC the DMG just needs to be packaged |
| 00:33.39 | Constitution | yeah, it should happen soon |
| 00:33.58 | noyb | ok. thanks! |
| 00:33.59 | Constitution | noyb: http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/MacOSX/BZFlag-2.0.10.dmg |
| 00:34.59 | Constitution | although I feel kinda bad sending people over to the test versions when the release is immenint |
| 00:35.15 | JeffM2501 | your dmg is a test DMG ;) |
| 00:35.16 | Constitution | well, hopefully immenint |
| 00:35.22 | JeffM2501 | it's all you can do |
| 00:35.29 | Constitution | k |
| 00:35.35 | JeffM2501 | get em what works |
| 00:36.41 | noyb | Constitution: so you have the duty of building the macosx packages/dmg's ? |
| 00:36.44 | JeffM2501 | the better thing to feel kinda bad about is how long it takes to make a mac build and get it posted :) |
| 00:37.00 | JeffM2501 | noyb, no one persoin has the "duty" for any OS |
| 00:37.13 | JeffM2501 | other then those that maintain the package systems for various distros |
| 00:37.18 | JeffM2501 | but then those are out of our hands. |
| 00:37.32 | JeffM2501 | he build the last binary and that DMG, yes |
| 00:37.39 | noyb | ok |
| 00:37.42 | JeffM2501 | and ether he or brlcad will post the final |
| 00:37.48 | JeffM2501 | as few of us use macs |
| 00:38.25 | noyb | nod |
| 00:38.31 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 00:38.48 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:38.54 | noyb | in agreement... |
| 00:39.13 | noyb | or more accurately, 'understanding' |
| 00:39.31 | JeffM2501 | then saying "I understand" |
| 00:40.08 | noyb | no thanks. |
| 00:40.53 | Constitution | noyb: I do my part... traditionally brlcad has been the one to build and package the mac binaries |
| 00:41.35 | Macrosoft | okay the schedutils package has utilities for setting core affinity |
| 00:41.41 | Macrosoft | ...just fyi |
| 00:42.53 | Macrosoft | never mind, thats a bad idea |
| 00:43.43 | noyb | Constitution: thanks! |
| 00:44.11 | Constitution | np |
| 00:44.26 | Macrosoft | the command for setting affinity is "taskset" |
| 01:04.13 | Winny | anyone GU match? |
| 01:04.17 | Winny | Constitution: got a mate? |
| 01:04.53 | A_Heart_Attack | Winny: preferably an FF player |
| 01:04.59 | A_Heart_Attack | i have kierra willing to match |
| 01:05.04 | Winny | A_Heart_Attack: heh |
| 01:05.16 | Winny | anyone who can match is welcome to match. |
| 01:05.26 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 01:07.16 | a_meteorite | Winny: where? |
| 01:08.31 | Winny | a_meteorite: do you have a team..? |
| 01:08.35 | a_meteorite | no |
| 01:08.38 | Winny | heh |
| 01:08.44 | a_meteorite | I'm in the GU league though |
| 01:09.21 | Constitution | Winny: sorry, nope |
| 01:09.44 | Constitution | well, not that I don't have a mate, but that I'm not available myself |
| 01:11.43 | Winny | kk |
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| 01:15.09 | A_Heart_Attack | i love how PHP generates a fatal error because of a damn "*/" out of place |
| 01:19.32 | Constitution | prevents other errors down the line... it's just a computer |
| 01:20.02 | JeffM2501 | compild languages tell you about the error sooner ;) |
| 01:21.20 | Constitution | hence why bzflag should be re-written in PHP |
| 01:21.47 | AAA_Awright | Constitution: Already working on it ;) |
| 01:21.48 | JeffM2501 | what's the command for ban again? |
| 01:22.35 | AAA_Awright | ... like /ban ? |
| 01:23.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh good thanks, now what is your host mast? |
| 01:23.05 | JeffM2501 | mask |
| 01:23.12 | AAA_Awright | ... |
| 01:24.47 | JeffM2501 | tell me your host mask and find out ;) |
| 01:25.16 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: /whois AAA_Awright |
| 01:25.21 | JeffM2501 | ahh thanks |
| 01:25.26 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 01:25.38 | A_Heart_Attack | and ban is: /mode #bzflag +b user/hostmask |
| 01:25.41 | A_Heart_Attack | :P |
| 01:25.42 | Constitution | yeah ban all of Cox Arizona ;) |
| 01:25.54 | A_Heart_Attack | *tells |
| 01:26.11 | AAA_Awright | Hey, what command do you type to quit the channel and leave a message? |
| 01:26.12 | JeffM2501 | well that get both of you? |
| 01:26.22 | Constitution | I am cloaked, so no |
| 01:26.25 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16272 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/Downloads.cxx: change the default allowed image host to be *.images.bzflag.org not the others. |
| 01:26.35 | JeffM2501 | /part message |
| 01:26.38 | JeffM2501 | but it depends on yoru client |
| 01:26.44 | Constitution | A_Heart_Attack: nice try |
| 01:27.09 | Constitution | er, AAA_Awright* |
| 01:27.20 | AAA_Awright | (Well I tried) |
| 01:27.22 | JeffM2501 | twas a joke for mentioning bzflag in php |
| 01:27.35 | AAA_Awright | :) |
| 01:28.00 | A_Heart_Attack | AAA_Awright, could you help me with my PHP script that keeps generating an error? |
| 01:28.10 | AAA_Awright | A_Heart_Attack: Yeah |
| 01:28.21 | A_Heart_Attack | may i PM you? |
| 01:28.23 | AAA_Awright | Yes |
| 01:28.36 | JeffM2501 | "new features of bzflag 4 now that's it's in php; Now with more slowness; New more dificult install; Uses 5x the ram;" ;) |
| 01:28.42 | AAA_Awright | :D |
| 01:29.04 | Constitution | but now it runs on any machine that supports php :) |
| 01:29.12 | JeffM2501 | with software that suports php |
| 01:29.16 | JeffM2501 | and dosn't have openGL |
| 01:29.25 | JeffM2501 | or realy any drawing whatsoever |
| 01:29.27 | Constitution | GD lib, ftw |
| 01:29.40 | TheRedBaron | ~gdlib++ |
| 01:29.43 | Constitution | and javascript could do the animation |
| 01:29.51 | JeffM2501 | when you finish writing a softwware renderer in gd, let me know ;) |
| 01:31.24 | AAA_Awright | I do say, a scripted server would be... interesting |
| 01:31.49 | Constitution | JeffM2501: does that change mean that image downloads will no longer be allowed by default from bzflag.org subdomains? |
| 01:31.49 | AAA_Awright | Anyone think a nds client would be interesting? |
| 01:31.50 | JeffM2501 | replace interesting with slow and unmaintaiable, then sure |
| 01:31.56 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, yep |
| 01:32.10 | JeffM2501 | we have an image hosting solution, there is no need for other domains |
| 01:32.21 | JeffM2501 | if we want other image hosters we'll give out whatever.images.bzflag.org |
| 01:32.48 | Constitution | will those be given out on an individual basis? |
| 01:32.57 | JeffM2501 | they will probalby never be given out |
| 01:33.03 | JeffM2501 | but if so yes |
| 01:33.17 | JeffM2501 | they would also be given out only for those that follow an acceptable usage policy |
| 01:33.35 | JeffM2501 | anyone who needs image hosting can just submit the image to images.bzflag.org |
| 01:33.45 | JeffM2501 | so there would be no reason/need to give out another |
| 01:33.58 | JeffM2501 | unless it got overloaded and we wanted to split it up |
| 01:34.03 | Winny | JeffM2501: not sure this is worth posting anywhere, but I just noticed something: With an older GFX card (6600), setting opelGL to use multiple cores in the nivida drivers actually causes slowdowns. |
| 01:34.21 | JeffM2501 | Winny, makes sense, you'll get lots of context swaps |
| 01:34.35 | JeffM2501 | GL Operations are not well suited for CPU parlelisation |
| 01:34.44 | JeffM2501 | as they depend on the results of other computations |
| 01:34.53 | JeffM2501 | not untill it gets to the card at least |
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| 01:46.31 | JeffM2501 | what would be cool would be a script or something that walks the servers and downloads the map URLs |
| 01:46.42 | JeffM2501 | then we could see what hosts that would need to update |
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| 02:14.17 | Winny | JeffM2501: ugh. someone deleted silver surfer's post and I replied, so now my post is there by itself, wanna delete it? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=118738#118738 |
| 02:15.00 | Winny | actually, wait, I can delete my own post in that forum, never mind. |
| 02:15.04 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 02:15.12 | JeffM2501 | it was still a valid comment so I left it |
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| 02:19.59 | delusional_ | jeffm2501, i think i spotted a drawinfo bug, tell me what you think of this... right now in an export, the word "dlist" appears once for every matref in a LOD, I'm pressty sure you only need one dlist per drawinfo... not even one per LOD |
| 02:21.16 | delusional_ | I've got an object that will only accept 2 LOD's, unless i remove some dlists |
| 02:23.28 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 02:23.33 | JeffM2501 | it's undocumented code |
| 02:23.39 | JeffM2501 | who's tool generated the mesh? |
| 02:23.45 | JeffM2501 | modeltool or your stuff? |
| 02:24.38 | delusional_ | modeltool |
| 02:25.08 | delusional_ | yeah.. doublechecked... dlist should be right after drawinfo... and only once per drawinfo |
| 02:25.18 | JeffM2501 | how did you double check? |
| 02:25.22 | JeffM2501 | you looked at the code? |
| 02:25.30 | JeffM2501 | or experemented?' |
| 02:27.36 | delusional_ | by running a map.. i have a model that would work fine with 2 or less LODS, but I couldnt add a third |
| 02:28.15 | delusional_ | i just removed 44 occurences of dlist from a map, and it seems to run just fine.. might be able to not use the word dlist at all |
| 02:29.19 | blast007 | JeffM2501: someone write an OpenGL extension for PHP ;) |
| 02:29.59 | JeffM2501 | delusional_, report the bug with the obj files and the config you use and I'll look at it when I have a chance |
| 02:30.15 | JeffM2501 | it's very important that we understand not only the how of a propblem, but the why |
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| 02:41.18 | enveezee | I'm hosting a bzflag lan party and the in-game server starter wont seem to work with maps I've downloaded it only starts when I set it to random |
| 02:41.28 | enveezee | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.54 | blast007 | enveezee: that menu sucks |
| 02:42.01 | blast007 | and you can't change maps without restarting the server |
| 02:42.05 | enveezee | to clarify, my tcpviewer shows no server connection at all when I choose a downloaded map |
| 02:42.19 | blast007 | which version of the game were you using? |
| 02:42.21 | JeffM2501 | enveezee, start the server from the command line |
| 02:42.22 | enveezee | well how from a windows commandline would I start a server with a desired map? |
| 02:42.27 | enveezee | 2.0.10 |
| 02:42.34 | blast007 | I hear an echo |
| 02:42.38 | JeffM2501 | bzfs.exe -world the/path/to/the/map |
| 02:42.39 | enveezee | sorry if thats repeating, i'm using cgiirc |
| 02:42.43 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:43.02 | JeffM2501 | there are docs on the wiki and forums on how to start a server with all the options you'd want |
| 02:43.06 | JeffM2501 | you can just ignore the public part |
| 02:43.14 | blast007 | bzfs -help is good as well |
| 02:43.23 | blast007 | you won't need most of the items on there |
| 02:43.40 | JeffM2501 | and as blast said, you can't load or change maps while the server is running |
| 02:43.41 | blast007 | mainly jumping, flags, ricochet, world, and game mode |
| 02:43.45 | enveezee | cool I am at the wiki now, I just came in here cause I wasn't finding the answer I was looking for |
| 02:43.46 | JeffM2501 | we odn't work like quake or anything |
| 02:44.11 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 02:44.22 | JeffM2501 | just ignore the parts that talk about public and publicaddr |
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| 02:52.53 | enveezee | I got an error running from command line |
| 02:52.53 | enveezee | catay:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.10>bzfs.exe -ms 3 -rabbit killer -world tuxee3x3 |
| 02:52.53 | enveezee | Unknown BZDB variable: _countdownResumeDelay |
| 02:52.53 | blast007 | the map file contains a variable that your server doesn't know about |
| 02:52.54 | blast007 | edit the map file in notepad and remove that line |
| 02:52.54 | enveezee | ah, that might be why the in-game thing didnt work then |
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| 02:52.58 | blast007 | yeah, probably |
| 02:53.00 | enveezee | just didnt tell me that from there |
| 02:53.06 | blast007 | the in-game menu doesn't give any feedback |
| 02:54.27 | enveezee | thanks guys |
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| 02:54.35 | enveezee | should work on output from that in-game menu |
| 02:54.48 | enveezee | and something that can automatically remove offending options |
| 02:55.15 | enveezee | hmm doesn't seem to be any flags on this level now :P |
| 02:59.55 | enveezee | there were flags on the tuxee level I downloaded so I must need a command line option i guess |
| 03:00.13 | blast007 | I'd be just as happy removing the menu ;) |
| 03:00.19 | enveezee | heh |
| 03:00.40 | enveezee | can I add flags to the level from the admin console? cause the level has no flags at all on it |
| 03:01.37 | L4m3r | no, flags are static |
| 03:03.44 | enveezee | hmm then I wonder why there are no flags |
| 03:06.12 | enveezee | hmm I just tried two levels I downloaded that dont have flags and did when they were online |
| 03:06.34 | enveezee | one is the mystic valley level and even the water which kills you on the server it came from doesnt kill you on herer |
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| 03:08.09 | enveezee | ugh that damn cgiirc was annoying me |
| 03:08.11 | enveezee | heh |
| 03:08.21 | enveezee | certainly not irssi |
| 03:08.51 | blast007 | ;) |
| 03:08.52 | enveezee | I guess we'll have to play on public servers if this isnt gonna give us any flags |
| 03:09.04 | blast007 | +f good{3} |
| 03:09.11 | blast007 | that'll do 3 of every good flag |
| 03:09.28 | enveezee | blast007: in the console or on the bzfs command line? |
| 03:09.30 | blast007 | if you want them (or need them) to appear on top of buildings, add: -fb |
| 03:09.33 | blast007 | command line |
| 03:09.50 | enveezee | so +f good{3} -fb then |
| 03:09.56 | enveezee | cool |
| 03:10.00 | blast007 | there isn't a console for bzfs, as it doesn't accept command-line input after it has started |
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| 03:10.18 | enveezee | I thought all servers had admin consoles ;/ |
| 03:11.07 | blast007 | nope |
| 03:11.29 | blast007 | closest we have is bzadmin, which just connects like a client |
| 03:11.35 | blast007 | text based client |
| 03:15.25 | L4m3r | you know, having bzfs take stdin might not be a bad option to have |
| 03:15.33 | L4m3r | or make it scroll like bzadmin |
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| 03:30.09 | Macrosoft | player "your spleen" is advertising other servers on missile wars |
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| 03:36.25 | Winny | Macrosoft: what kind of stuff did he say? |
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| 04:01.16 | enveezee | I dont see a bzfs option for free-for-all |
| 04:01.29 | enveezee | there is -c for capture the flag, and -rabbit for rabbit chase |
| 04:03.50 | trepan | "By default, the free-for-all style is used." |
| 04:04.22 | enveezee | ok, well some of my maps I saved specify a mode so I guess I gotta take that out to play free for all |
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| 04:06.18 | JeffM | CCCCOOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDD! |
| 04:18.35 | enveezee | hand him something good to light ;) |
| 04:20.43 | JeffM | no thanks, I visted my parents for thanksgiving |
| 04:20.48 | JeffM | and it's colder there then it is here |
| 04:20.52 | JeffM | its' snowing |
| 04:21.10 | L4m3r | lol |
| 04:22.05 | Constitution | ~weather KPRC |
| 04:22.47 | JeffM | see 30.9 |
| 04:22.47 | Constitution | 31 degrees... guess it is |
| 04:25.51 | Macrosoft | does bzflag make for a good stability test? im running two clients on each core, on four different servers |
| 04:29.44 | L4m3r | it's a crappy stability test. a minimized client hardly uses any CPU at all. |
| 04:30.02 | JeffM | pcmark |
| 04:30.14 | Macrosoft | L4m3r: they're windowed |
| 04:30.35 | JeffM | most of BZ's time is spent drawing |
| 04:30.42 | JeffM | there are much better stability tests |
| 04:31.04 | JeffM | cus you want to check for errors if your overclocking |
| 04:31.19 | JeffM | not all errors will crash something |
| 04:31.28 | JeffM | they just may produce incorrect results |
| 04:31.31 | JeffM | and you coudl miss them |
| 04:31.47 | Macrosoft | any recommendations for testing on linux? |
| 04:32.11 | JeffM | google |
| 04:33.08 | JeffM | cpuburn is commonly used IIRC |
| 04:33.16 | JeffM | you can get a live cd distro with that and other tools |
| 04:33.22 | JeffM | overclockix |
| 04:33.46 | JeffM | and to think I foudn that with JUST one search in google |
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| 04:56.31 | Macrosoft | JeffM: thanks |
| 05:02.39 | pacman87 | what is 'world weapon' and why is it grabbing flags? |
| 05:03.09 | JeffM | it's when the server fires a shot |
| 05:03.23 | pacman87 | i know what it is in that context |
| 05:03.34 | JeffM | world fires theif.... |
| 05:03.59 | pacman87 | but i'm getting lines that say "world weapon: grabbed flag" |
| 05:04.09 | pacman87 | and i dont' have any thiefs set up |
| 05:04.21 | JeffM | when do you get the message? |
| 05:04.50 | pacman87 | i'm pretty sure i did somehting wrong with my plugin |
| 05:05.00 | JeffM | what does your plug-in do? |
| 05:05.13 | pacman87 | but it's after i /flag give myself an uneven team's flag |
| 05:05.24 | pacman87 | i'm extending on the timedctf one |
| 05:05.30 | JeffM | debug it |
| 05:05.32 | JeffM | ;) |
| 05:05.36 | JeffM | debugers are good |
| 05:05.40 | JeffM | they are your friend |
| 05:06.11 | TheRedBaron | ~weather ktlh |
| 05:06.48 | pacman87 | the problems started happening when i registered a listener for the bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent |
| 05:07.34 | JeffM | are you changing any data in the event? |
| 05:08.04 | pacman87 | no |
| 05:08.12 | JeffM | you sure? |
| 05:08.21 | JeffM | if not debug it and see where it's geting it from |
| 05:08.22 | pacman87 | lemme double check |
| 05:09.04 | pacman87 | what happens first, a bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent or a bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent ? |
| 05:09.10 | pacman87 | after you pick up a flag |
| 05:09.22 | JeffM | player update events are sent from the client |
| 05:09.26 | JeffM | so they happen when they happen |
| 05:09.35 | JeffM | but I belive the client sends one before it sends the grab |
| 05:09.37 | JeffM | in 2.0.x |
| 05:09.51 | JeffM | in trunk, the client dosnt' send flag grabs, the server computes them |
| 05:11.06 | pacman87 | becasue my bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent listener drops your flag for uneven teams |
| 05:11.06 | JeffM | your using visual C++ 2005 express eddition right? |
| 05:11.06 | pacman87 | yeah |
| 05:11.06 | JeffM | then build debug and step thru the code |
| 05:11.06 | JeffM | see what gives you that message |
| 05:11.19 | pacman87 | how do i just debug the plugin? |
| 05:11.26 | JeffM | build it debug |
| 05:11.45 | JeffM | and set the debug executable to be bzfs with the required command line options |
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| 05:12.01 | pacman87 | ok, thanks |
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| 05:14.04 | JeffM | whee |
| 05:18.34 | pacman87 | i forgot to add the -conf to the bzfs.exe for the debugger |
| 05:18.48 | pacman87 | where can i change it? |
| 05:19.28 | JeffM | one of the items on the dialog where you set the executable path and working dir is the command line |
| 05:19.52 | pacman87 | that dialog doesnt show up anymore |
| 05:19.55 | pacman87 | only the first time |
| 05:20.05 | JeffM | right click on the project, and hit properties |
| 05:20.17 | JeffM | you may want to read up on how to use VC |
| 05:20.26 | JeffM | if you are going to develop in it |
| 05:20.54 | pacman87 | yeah, sorry about bothering you with this |
| 05:21.09 | JeffM | I don't mind answering a couple questions on it |
| 05:21.21 | JeffM | but it's good for you to learn it for real ;) |
| 05:21.48 | pacman87 | what reference do you recommend? |
| 05:22.11 | JeffM | dunno, I learned it via books and my job |
| 05:22.38 | pacman87 | where do you work? |
| 05:22.51 | JeffM | at a software company |
| 05:23.18 | pacman87 | i probably could've guessed that ;) |
| 05:23.55 | JeffM | doubt you would have heard of it |
| 05:25.53 | pacman87 | The program '[3580] bzfs.exe: Native' has exited with code 1 (0x1). |
| 05:26.11 | JeffM | it crashed |
| 05:26.16 | JeffM | or your input was bad |
| 05:26.17 | pacman87 | at the end of a long list of 'no symbols loaded' |
| 05:26.23 | JeffM | it's best to build bzfs debug |
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| 05:34.01 | pacman87 | g:\downloads\bzflag\bzflag-2.0.10\include\win32.h(22) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'windows.h': No such file or directory |
| 05:34.18 | JeffM | you need the platform sdk |
| 05:34.20 | JeffM | and direct x |
| 05:34.30 | pacman87 | ok |
| 05:34.50 | pacman87 | i read about those when i first started looking into compiling |
| 05:35.14 | pacman87 | and i added quotes around my .conf path, and got an exit code of 2 |
| 05:35.38 | JeffM | where did you put the -conf part? |
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| 05:42.29 | pacman87 | under 'command arguments' |
| 05:44.33 | pacman87 | i got it running using -c -loadplugin /path/to/plugin |
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| 06:02.38 | pacman87 | so when i drive over a flag, it goes to the bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent listener |
| 06:02.47 | pacman87 | but the flag doesn't stay attached to my tank |
| 06:03.08 | pacman87 | and when i get killed, the flag that i drove over drops where i died |
| 06:04.02 | JeffM | not knowing what your doing in the plug-in I can' |
| 06:04.06 | JeffM | t offer much help |
| 06:10.25 | pacman87 | i'm trying to keep track of the number of times a player grabs the flag of a smaller team |
| 06:10.51 | pacman87 | so i can kick them if they keep grabbing a flag that's off-limits |
| 06:11.29 | pacman87 | but i dont' want it to count flags dropped because someone joins or leaves |
| 06:14.15 | JeffM | that does nothing to tell me how you coded it ;) |
| 06:14.24 | JeffM | I don't know your experience with C++ or the API |
| 06:20.43 | pacman87 | http://pastebin.com/m3790fbc6 |
| 06:20.59 | pacman87 | that's my bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent listener |
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| 06:36.15 | Blue89 | I just noticed something odd... my PS3 controller is recognized as a joystick, but bzflag won't use the X button, or the triggers. |
| 06:36.33 | ruskie | did you remap them? |
| 06:36.43 | Blue89 | it's because they are pressure sensative buttons (or analogs, as bzflag understands them) |
| 06:36.53 | ruskie | ahh |
| 06:36.57 | Blue89 | at least that's how it looks to me |
| 06:37.29 | Blue89 | I'm surprised bzflag doesn't have any support for analogs as buttons |
| 06:38.08 | Blue89 | actually, I left another program open that was reading from the controller... I don't think that would cause trouble, but it wouldn't hurt to try it again |
| 06:42.11 | JeffM | 400$ and all you get is a busted PC gamepad? |
| 06:42.52 | Blue89 | ? |
| 06:43.07 | Blue89 | the controllers aren't $400 by themselves |
| 06:43.21 | JeffM | yeah but the PS3 it'sef is worthles ;) |
| 06:43.28 | ruskie | :) |
| 06:43.42 | Blue89 | I beg to differ |
| 06:43.54 | JeffM | what do you do when you finish playing the game |
| 06:44.01 | Blue89 | you haven't played Armored Core 4 on it :-P |
| 06:44.28 | JeffM | good |
| 06:44.34 | JeffM | all the other AC games have sucked |
| 06:44.35 | JeffM | big time |
| 06:45.00 | Blue89 | have you played ANY of them? this one is a lot different |
| 06:45.05 | JeffM | yes |
| 06:45.05 | Blue89 | faster for one thing |
| 06:45.07 | JeffM | all of them |
| 06:45.57 | JeffM | AC4 is on other consoles ;) |
| 06:46.14 | JeffM | what OTHER games do you play? |
| 06:46.32 | Blue89 | I have a couple others, but AC4 is all I play on it |
| 06:46.49 | JeffM | resistance, warhawk, that'd be about it |
| 06:46.50 | JeffM | maybe flow |
| 06:47.03 | Blue89 | I can't get two of the S ranks, it is driving me crazy |
| 06:50.25 | JeffM | that's why you should play mass effect instead |
| 06:50.53 | Blue89 | I will look that one up, thanks |
| 06:50.58 | JeffM | you can't |
| 06:51.02 | JeffM | on a PS3 |
| 06:51.07 | Blue89 | ? |
| 06:51.15 | JeffM | xbox only |
| 06:51.15 | Blue89 | oh, it's for the box... |
| 06:51.23 | JeffM | just like AC4 ;) |
| 06:51.35 | Blue89 | ? |
| 06:51.41 | Blue89 | AC4 is for both |
| 06:51.45 | JeffM | yeah |
| 06:51.55 | JeffM | most good games on the PS3 are also on other consoles |
| 06:52.19 | Blue89 | ChromeHounds is 'box only though, so I have a 360 too. (apparently I have no life or something? ;-D) |
| 06:52.38 | JeffM | and lots of discreconary money |
| 06:52.49 | Blue89 | the From Software mech titles are my favorites |
| 06:53.08 | JeffM | what made you get a PS3 as well? |
| 06:53.33 | Blue89 | I hate the xbox controller, and the PS3 doubles as a desktop |
| 06:54.01 | JeffM | I'd have bought a desktop ;) |
| 06:54.31 | Blue89 | the Cell is a lot more powere than I would have got for the money any other way :-) |
| 06:54.41 | JeffM | what do you do on it? |
| 06:55.07 | blast007 | play solitare |
| 06:55.12 | Blue89 | LOL |
| 06:55.16 | blast007 | isn't that what desktops are for? |
| 06:55.34 | JeffM | it have hardware GL drivers for the video card yet? |
| 06:56.05 | Blue89 | well, I am not quite finished configuring linux on the PS3 yet, so all I can do with it now is surf, play AC4, and listen to music |
| 06:56.28 | JeffM | what do you plan on doing with it? |
| 06:57.07 | JeffM | I mean I think your going to be limited by the ram in the thing as a full desktop |
| 06:57.11 | JeffM | 256 isn't much |
| 06:57.31 | Blue89 | that's as much ram as I have now, and I get by fine |
| 06:57.44 | JeffM | what do you do on your desktop? |
| 06:58.36 | Blue89 | irc, skype, surfing, very few games, and some coding |
| 06:58.50 | JeffM | again, I'd have bought a desktop ;) |
| 06:59.00 | JeffM | and 3rd party controller for the 360 |
| 06:59.12 | JeffM | but good luck wiht it |
| 06:59.44 | Blue89 | honestly, I am thinking about selling the 360 |
| 07:00.04 | JeffM | ahh, geting out of gaming? |
| 07:00.41 | Blue89 | I only bought the 360 for one game, and there has been a lot of cheating lately that has pretty much ruined that game |
| 07:00.50 | JeffM | what game? |
| 07:00.56 | Blue89 | Chrome Hounds |
| 07:00.59 | JeffM | ahh |
| 07:01.05 | JeffM | seems you have your one type of game you play |
| 07:01.39 | JeffM | hmm sony block access to the RSX under linux, that sucks |
| 07:01.48 | JeffM | mesa for life I guess |
| 07:02.17 | Blue89 | there are a couple of design flaws in it, and lately the trend has been to copy a design everybody uses to exploit them instead of designing your own mech. it defeats the purpose |
| 07:02.31 | Blue89 | (I was still talking about CH, I typed a little slow) |
| 07:02.41 | JeffM | I gathered that ;) |
| 07:03.20 | Blue89 | if they can't win without grenade stacks and hidden cockpits then I won't play with them anymore |
| 07:03.31 | blast007 | on the up side, the PS3 is great if you want to brute force passwords |
| 07:03.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 07:03.43 | JeffM | yeah it would be |
| 07:03.45 | Blue89 | right ;-D |
| 07:03.47 | Blue89 | lol |
| 07:03.53 | JeffM | that'd be a bout it |
| 07:04.16 | blast007 | not much better than the PS2 for it's linux support it seems |
| 07:04.22 | blast007 | still can't do hardware 3D |
| 07:04.33 | JeffM | with the hardware locked out, its not even a matter of somone busting out a driver |
| 07:04.38 | JeffM | it's like NOT THERE |
| 07:04.52 | Blue89 | I am hoping to get into some AI coding that would take full advantage of having SPEs to spare |
| 07:05.07 | Blue89 | but I don't have any _working_ code to show for it |
| 07:05.10 | JeffM | you'll probalby run out of ram first ;) |
| 07:05.18 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 07:05.18 | Blue89 | no |
| 07:05.44 | blast007 | my Pentium III has more RAM than the PS3 |
| 07:05.55 | JeffM | what woudl the eventual goal be? software for PCs? |
| 07:06.11 | Blue89 | and can do about 1/32 as much work with that data |
| 07:06.14 | JeffM | cus if so and your writing just for the PS3s advantages, the code would seem less good elsewhere |
| 07:06.46 | Blue89 | well it doesn't have to be shacked to the PS3 permanently, but being able to use the SPEs where the yare found would be a good thing |
| 07:06.55 | Blue89 | shackled* |
| 07:07.09 | JeffM | spe? |
| 07:07.39 | JeffM | cus when you say AI, you are basicly talking about games |
| 07:07.53 | JeffM | unless your talking like high end robot/ computer intelegence stuff |
| 07:08.08 | Blue89 | the Cell has a dual core ppc64 processor and (as far as linux is concerned) 6 more processors that are meant to do extra number crunching for the main dual core |
| 07:08.16 | blast007 | "Synergistic Processing Elements" |
| 07:08.32 | Blue89 | I don't think they have much IO capability in and of themselves |
| 07:08.34 | JeffM | and where else would you find those? |
| 07:08.42 | Blue89 | obviously, nowhere |
| 07:08.51 | Blue89 | but if you have them you might as well use them |
| 07:09.06 | Blue89 | and my project isn't for public consumption at this stage anyway |
| 07:09.15 | JeffM | but eventualy it woudl be right? |
| 07:09.26 | JeffM | or is it just puttering aorund for you? |
| 07:09.38 | Blue89 | if all goes according to plan, yes |
| 07:10.41 | blast007 | then you could add a "Designed for the PS3" logo on the box |
| 07:10.52 | Blue89 | hehe |
| 07:11.48 | Blue89 | I still think there is a way to get around the hypervisor |
| 07:12.18 | Blue89 | not like I would likely be able to do it myself, but I think it will be done |
| 07:13.22 | JeffM | if your code uses all the SPEs then no game will be able to run, since they will need them for all the slick shader and renderingness |
| 07:14.29 | Blue89 | you obviously don't know what SPEs do |
| 07:14.43 | JeffM | perhaps not |
| 07:14.49 | JeffM | but I know how dev worked on the PS2 |
| 07:14.53 | Blue89 | they have nothing to do with the graphics card |
| 07:15.09 | JeffM | and they used a lot of the other processors on it to to render setup |
| 07:15.14 | blast007 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor#Synergistic_Processing_Elements_.28SPE.29 |
| 07:15.17 | JeffM | since the "graphics card" wasn't a full card |
| 07:15.29 | JeffM | but a fast rasteriser |
| 07:15.52 | JeffM | what does a normal native PS3 game use them for? |
| 07:16.40 | JeffM | they sound a lot like shader units on a modern PC video card |
| 07:16.41 | blast007 | to calculate Pi |
| 07:16.57 | blast007 | doesn't really say in that wikipedia article |
| 07:17.27 | JeffM | yeah loading up the CPU with minicode sounds cool |
| 07:17.52 | JeffM | for a game I'd have it generating all my run time geometry, trees and stuff |
| 07:18.14 | JeffM | similar to how you could set up a PS2 |
| 07:21.36 | blast007 | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184843 |
| 07:21.43 | JeffM | cus the RSX dosn't sound that impressive of a graphics chip |
| 07:21.59 | JeffM | the only way you could push it would be to leverage those cell units to offload some of the work |
| 07:22.21 | Blue89 | I just noticed something interesting |
| 07:23.01 | Blue89 | Wikipedia says that one SPE is reserved for the hypervisor, which I knew, but it is referring to native PS3 software discs |
| 07:23.40 | Blue89 | the same hypervisor is running, but 3D is possible. it obviously has an unlock mechanizm in there somewhere |
| 07:24.16 | Blue89 | it's only a matter of time until someone finds it |
| 07:24.23 | JeffM | yeah see people are doing geometry setup in them |
| 07:24.33 | JeffM | all your particle system stuff |
| 07:25.00 | JeffM | stuff you could do as assloads of vertex shader programs on a GF8 |
| 07:25.21 | pacman87 | i think it's fixed now :) |
| 07:25.47 | JeffM | but yeah doing AI in them is highly likely |
| 07:25.53 | JeffM | so you want to be a PS3 developer then? |
| 07:26.07 | pacman87 | apparently bz_sendTextMessagef messes with the values from the event |
| 07:26.25 | JeffM | it should not |
| 07:26.30 | JeffM | if it does that is BAD |
| 07:26.39 | pacman87 | commenting out those two lines makes everything work |
| 07:26.51 | pacman87 | bz_sendTextMessagef (BZ_SERVER, BZ_ALLUSERS, "DEBUG: %s grabbed by %d of team %d", FlagHeld, playerID, team); |
| 07:27.20 | JeffM | what are the 3 variables? |
| 07:27.33 | pacman87 | const int playerID = ((bz_FlagGrabbedEventData*)eventData)->playerID; |
| 07:27.33 | pacman87 | const int team = bz_getPlayerByIndex(playerID)->team; |
| 07:27.33 | pacman87 | const char* FlagHeld = bz_getPlayerFlag(playerID); |
| 07:27.58 | JeffM | odd |
| 07:28.15 | JeffM | oh duh |
| 07:28.24 | JeffM | oh, unduh |
| 07:28.25 | JeffM | sorry |
| 07:28.27 | pacman87 | lol |
| 07:28.28 | JeffM | %s is first |
| 07:28.52 | pacman87 | the message sent properly |
| 07:28.53 | JeffM | dunno, would have to see your code |
| 07:29.02 | JeffM | noone eles has had any problem with it |
| 07:29.10 | pacman87 | how much of it do you need? |
| 07:29.20 | JeffM | probalby the entire thing |
| 07:29.27 | pacman87 | it's 1168 lines |
| 07:29.32 | JeffM | so |
| 07:29.35 | pacman87 | ok |
| 07:29.39 | pacman87 | pastebin? |
| 07:29.44 | JeffM | I can't look at it tonight |
| 07:29.45 | JeffM | it's late |
| 07:29.50 | pacman87 | ok |
| 07:30.04 | pacman87 | later then |
| 07:30.11 | pacman87 | i'll be around |
| 07:37.36 | Blue89 | JeffM, http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=45511 |
| 07:38.10 | JeffM | fun |
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| 12:11.11 | Winny | wow, what is with all the people whos "game is shutting off after 5 min" |
| 12:12.24 | whodaman- | Winny, all the forums posts? |
| 12:13.36 | Winny | yeah |
| 12:14.01 | whodaman- | mhm |
| 12:14.18 | whodaman- | Well BZFlag doesn't run well on the macbook at all |
| 12:14.50 | Winny | your macbook sucks then |
| 12:14.56 | Winny | I get 70fps everywhere |
| 12:15.06 | Winny | at 1280x1024.. |
| 12:16.20 | whodaman- | It's not that, I have the same framerate or higher |
| 12:17.16 | Winny | anyways, bbl. |
| 12:17.19 | whodaman- | cya |
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| 18:50.31 | findlay | ~duel SportChick creating ~duel |
| 18:50.32 | ibot | EXTRA EXTRA!! findlay challenges SportChick to a duel for creating ~duel!! Everyone gather round to see who wins! |
| 18:52.46 | JeffM2501 | excuse me? |
| 18:53.09 | scott | heh |
| 18:54.11 | findlay | JeffM2501: sorry, I do stupid things sometimes :/ |
| 18:54.35 | JeffM2501 | that's fine, just do em in botpark |
| 18:54.46 | findlay | sure |
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| 19:13.06 | JeffM2501 | pacman87, send me your plug-in project and I can look at it |
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| 19:56.15 | catay | JeffM2501: I once encountered the same issue pacman had, but didnt really looked deeper into it |
| 19:56.20 | catay | http://pastebin.ca/815098 |
| 19:57.02 | catay | using a bzmessage in that method crashes the client |
| 19:57.19 | catay | or server, don't know anymore , think it was the client |
| 19:59.22 | pacman87 | JeffM2501: http://pastebin.com/m3646763b |
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| 19:59.33 | pacman87 | line 952 |
| 19:59.57 | catay | nvm .. my issue was something different, should learn to read everything first :P |
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| 20:29.16 | Winny | oh boy |
| 20:29.19 | Winny | here he goes again |
| 20:29.19 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11926 |
| 20:30.25 | Erroneous | why do you care? |
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| 20:31.03 | jftsang | hais |
| 20:31.07 | TheRedBaron | not a bad idea, but it seems to be a bit lacking in its execution |
| 20:31.24 | Winny | Erroneous: because he over advertises his services. |
| 20:31.27 | TheRedBaron | and seems to be no different then the norang and bzfx |
| 20:32.13 | Winny | I honestly could care less, but he constantly over-advertises and over-sells his hosting (which is on a sub 1mbit cable modem) |
| 20:32.29 | Erroneous | that's his problem, not yours :) |
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| 20:34.06 | L4m3r | someone will probably upload a PHP script and pwn his server within a week. |
| 20:34.21 | Erroneous | once again, his problem ;) |
| 20:34.31 | Winny | :D |
| 20:34.39 | Erroneous | I suspect that's the only way he'll learn, is by painful experience |
| 20:34.46 | Erroneous | he certainly doesn't care to listen to advice |
| 20:34.58 | L4m3r | um, no, if he learned that way he'd already have stopped |
| 20:35.33 | L4m3r | we've already had the painful experience, too. a popular new server pops up and degenerates into a lagfest, because there's an insanely high player limit. |
| 20:36.33 | Erroneous | and then either someone else hosts it, or it dies |
| 20:36.38 | Erroneous | problem takes care of itself |
| 20:38.17 | scott | Winny: or just download /etc/shadow and decrypt the root password |
| 20:38.36 | Winny | eh.. shouldn't that be hashed? |
| 20:38.50 | scott | there are tools... |
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| 20:39.29 | Erroneous | pacman87: won't work, message and flag grab try to use the same message buffer |
| 20:39.43 | Erroneous | it's a consequence of us using a single message buffer |
| 20:39.49 | Erroneous | nasty thing that is |
| 20:40.25 | Erroneous | catay's issue is actually the same, just a variation |
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| 20:41.42 | F687s | Hello |
| 20:41.42 | Erroneous | the only thing you should be doing during an event that fires during construction of another message, is modifying that message |
| 20:41.48 | Erroneous | hi |
| 20:42.47 | jftsang | hai |
| 20:49.05 | pacman87 | Erroneous: thanks for the explaination |
| 20:49.42 | Erroneous | I suppose as a workaround you could register a tick handler and keep a queue of messages you want to send during the next tick |
| 20:49.56 | Erroneous | but bzfs should really be doing that itself |
| 20:50.08 | Erroneous | it's one of the things I'd like to look at for 3.0 |
| 20:52.23 | pacman87 | that's a bit over my head, i just started coding bzplugins this week |
| 20:53.03 | pacman87 | and the messages were just used to make sure everything was working how i thought |
| 20:55.02 | Erroneous | in that case, don't do that ;) |
| 20:55.22 | Erroneous | or write them to a log file |
| 20:57.47 | pacman87 | i implemented the 'don't do that' solution :) |
| 20:59.03 | JeffM2501 | so Erroneous found your problem? |
| 20:59.19 | Erroneous | it's a known issue |
| 20:59.23 | JeffM2501 | what is it? |
| 20:59.32 | Erroneous | basically that's one of the events that fires while the message is being constructed |
| 20:59.41 | JeffM2501 | ahhh |
| 20:59.45 | Erroneous | so sending another message tramples the buffer |
| 20:59.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:59.54 | Erroneous | and we send garbage for the real message |
| 21:00.03 | Erroneous | we need to not do that ;) |
| 21:00.12 | Erroneous | a real message queue would be good |
| 21:00.13 | JeffM2501 | that's why we are spliting out all the message insto notification and modification events |
| 21:00.31 | Erroneous | yup, that's another way to handle it |
| 21:00.45 | JeffM2501 | well ALL of those thigns need to be done |
| 21:00.48 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 21:00.52 | JeffM2501 | tho I think didn't I change flag grab allready? |
| 21:01.04 | JeffM2501 | so there is now an allow and and mod |
| 21:01.08 | Erroneous | probably; I think he's working with 2.0 |
| 21:01.15 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure he is |
| 21:01.17 | pacman87 | i'm running 2.0.10 |
| 21:01.20 | JeffM2501 | API v.1 sucks |
| 21:02.08 | pacman87 | appearently BZF_API void bz_changeTeam( int player, bz_eTeamType team ); doesnt' work for me |
| 21:02.21 | JeffM2501 | can't change teams while playing in 2.0.x |
| 21:03.18 | pacman87 | the API wiki is rather sparse |
| 21:03.22 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 21:03.44 | pacman87 | luckily most of the names are self-descriptive |
| 21:03.45 | JeffM2501 | the code is the true docs |
| 21:04.22 | Erroneous | there are older docs somewhere |
| 21:04.24 | pacman87 | javadocs have spoiled me |
| 21:04.46 | Erroneous | we use doxygen, but the api is not doxygenated |
| 21:06.38 | Erroneous | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/plugins/doc/?pathrev=16122 |
| 21:07.07 | Erroneous | if you grab those, they'll be sometimes wrong, but mostly complete |
| 21:07.55 | JeffM2501 | well I'd not use the term "complete" |
| 21:08.16 | JeffM2501 | the WIKI has entries for more items then those docs |
| 21:08.26 | JeffM2501 | and I belive most of those docs were wikifified. |
| 21:08.47 | JeffM2501 | the docs just look more complete because they don't have subs for undoced things |
| 21:09.02 | Erroneous | the wiki is missing LOTS of stuff that's in the docs |
| 21:09.14 | JeffM2501 | then those should be moved over |
| 21:09.21 | Erroneous | yup, they should |
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| 21:26.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16274 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfs.h bzfsAPI.cxx): save API chat messages in a pending que system so that they don't blow over real messages that are being formulated during callbacks. |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16275 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfs.h bzfsAPI.cxx): save API chat messages in a pending que system so that they don't blow over real messages that are being formulated during callbacks. |
| 21:26.52 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 21:27.10 | JeffM2501 | they are sent out right before the tick event |
| 21:27.23 | JeffM2501 | good place to do chat/spam throttle as well if we want later |
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| 21:54.26 | JeffM2501 | silly bot |
| 21:54.30 | JeffM2501 | silly laggy bot |
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| 23:11.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16277 10/trunk/bzflag/ (8 files in 4 dirs): add a buffered network message system for queuing messages in independent protected and managed buffers that can be processed interdependently of the game logic. |
| 23:12.23 | JeffM2501 | get everyone on that and we'll never have to worry about data pack overflows again :) |
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| 23:23.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16278 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BufferedNetworkMessage.cxx BufferedNetworkMessage.h): make manager class into a real singleton |
| 23:23.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16279 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: phantom file |
| 23:23.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16280 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: tell the BufferedMessageManager to send messages each loop, and kill any outstanding buffered messages for a user when we drop the handler for them. |
| 23:24.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16281 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: ws |
| 23:25.18 | JeffM2501 | now only 70+ places to modify :) |
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| 23:34.18 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 23:34.32 | Winny | "now only 70+ places to modify" |
| 23:34.53 | JeffM2501 | it won't be done in one sitting |
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