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| 01:11.14 | Constitution | I can't find the 2.0.10 release thread on the forums... was it moved/deleted? |
| 01:13.21 | JeffMFishbone | odd |
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| 08:46.13 | strayer | Pimpi > already awake? |
| 08:46.20 | Pimpi | sicher |
| 08:46.30 | Pimpi | aber gerade knapp an zeit... |
| 08:46.38 | strayer | sauber :)...hast du zonogs mail bekommen? |
| 08:46.52 | strayer | ich versuche es kurz zu halten |
| 08:46.54 | Pimpi | jupp :) |
| 08:47.13 | strayer | sehr gut...kannst du die Änderung in Bälde umsetzen? |
| 08:47.31 | strayer | ...er würde sich freuen, wenn er nicht mehr alles per Hand eintragen müsste ...warum auch immer ;) |
| 08:47.48 | Pimpi | ja, mach ich, diesmal bestimmt ;) |
| 08:48.16 | Pimpi | aber vielleicht sollte er die Sache auch abgeben, wenn er eh nicht mehr spielt... |
| 08:48.28 | Pimpi | naja, das ist eine andere Geschichte... |
| 08:48.33 | strayer | das wäre toll...glaubst du es wäre sehr viel Aufwand, einen Echtzeitreport zu machen (ins Plugin einzubauen)? |
| 08:48.59 | strayer | stimmt wohl...aber irgendwer muss es ja pflegen...und darum gerissen hat sich wohl noch keiner |
| 08:49.54 | Pimpi | Aufwand,,,nö, ich denke nicht, dass ginge sicher irgendwie mit curl und http. |
| 08:50.08 | Pimpi | aber das wäre nicht besonders sicher denke ich |
| 08:51.02 | strayer | das befürchte ich auch...da kann man nur auf Passwörter oder IP- oder Hostnamenschecks bauen, wenns nicht zu kompliziert werden soll |
| 08:51.17 | strayer | naja, per E-Mail würde ihm ja auch schon reichen :o) |
| 08:51.23 | Pimpi | aber ich kann das hier nicht machen, ich kriege so schon nix geregelt... |
| 08:51.42 | strayer | wo bist du denn? |
| 08:53.27 | Pimpi | sicher nicht nur im Hinblick auf Manipulationen, sondern auch bezüglich timeouts und so. da klappt mal die verbindung nicht und dann dehlt das resultat. das dann anschließend in die Datenbank zu kriegen ist so wie seine Zeloberechnung funktioniert nicht drin |
| 08:53.36 | strayer | achja...hattest du catay dein Plugin gegeben oder hat er eine eigene Lösung gebastelt...und wann kann ich dich denn nochmal erinnern, damit du die Änderung nicht vergisst? ^^ |
| 08:53.37 | Pimpi | ich bin zuhause ;) |
| 08:54.01 | Pimpi | nähe wilhelmshaven |
| 08:54.27 | strayer | ey..ich habe die ZELO-Rechnung komplett neugemacht...die funktioniert inzwischen auch, wenn man Spiele in falscher Reihenfolge einträgt ;P |
| 08:54.30 | Pimpi | ich hatte das nicht als plugin, sondern als patch gelöst, plugins gabs da noch nicht |
| 08:54.41 | strayer | achso...und von daheim aus, bekommst du nichts geregelt? Ich bin überrascht |
| 08:54.44 | Pimpi | supi :) |
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| 08:55.16 | Pimpi | catay hat aus meinen codebrochen und dann das plugin gebastelt |
| 08:55.27 | Pimpi | hat er echt sauber gelöst :) |
| 08:55.48 | strayer | achso...und du nutzt aber nicht sein Plugin, sondern noch dein Patch? |
| 08:55.52 | Pimpi | nee, ich hab so viel zu tun, dass dauernd etwas liegen bleibt ;) |
| 08:56.02 | Pimpi | nein, ich nutze sein plugin |
| 08:56.26 | strayer | achso...na immerhin gibts nicht x verschiedene Lösungen :) |
| 08:56.35 | strayer | nagut, dann belassen wir es bei der E-Mail-Geschichte...reicht ja auch |
| 08:56.59 | Pimpi | oder du klopft mal bei catay an... |
| 08:57.58 | strayer | bezüglich des Plugins? > diesbezüglich frage ich mich, ob der E-Mailversand über das Plugin oder separat gelöst ist...wie funktioniert das denn derzeit? |
| 08:58.06 | Pimpi | schön jedenfalls, dass das mit dem zelokrams jstzt anders gelöst ist, mir war da immer ein wenig mulmig dabei... |
| 08:58.55 | Pimpi | die Ergebnisse gehen in die logs. die werden per cron einmal täglich gefiltert |
| 08:59.21 | strayer | hehe...naja, ich habe es ja schon vor etwa 9 Monaten geändert, während ich die gesamte Webseite umgearbeitet und auf ne DB in Hintergrund umgestellt habe |
| 08:59.43 | strayer | achso...das mit den Logs ist gut, falls der Server mal neugestartet wird...gut zu wissen |
| 09:00.21 | Pimpi | JeffMsuck... |
| 09:00.55 | strayer | dementsprechen müssten du und catay quasi separat das Report-Format ändern und falls es mal ne Echtzeitvariante gäbe, müsstest du nur das Plugin bekommen |
| 09:01.42 | Pimpi | nee, ich kann die zeilen aus den logs ummodeln, dazu braucht es keine änderungen am plugin |
| 09:02.08 | Pimpi | für die echtzeitvariante kann's catay alleine machen |
| 09:02.38 | strayer | so meinte ich das auch nicht...sondern: catay ändert sein E-Mailformat, du ebenso...und falls sich am Plugin mal was ändern sollte, dann schicken wir dir das zu |
| 09:03.26 | Pimpi | hmm, versteh ich nicht so richtig...aber ich muss jetzt auch weg.. |
| 09:03.45 | Pimpi | erklär mir das doch noch mal per pm, ich les das dann nachher |
| 09:03.45 | strayer | nagut, dann machs mal gut...bis wann könntest du die Änderung bei dir denn vornehmen? |
| 09:03.54 | strayer | alles klar |
| 09:04.03 | strayer | bis in Bälde :o) |
| 09:32.58 | strayer | catay > are you around? |
| 09:40.17 | eTangenT | hey you guys, I don't appreciate your potential yo mama joke in dutch :P |
| 09:40.41 | ruskie | erm... |
| 09:40.52 | ruskie | that's german afaik... |
| 09:42.54 | strayer | you're right ruskie...and it was serious stuff... ;P |
| 09:45.40 | ruskie | I didn't take the tons of extra brain cycles it would take me to decypher - decode - translate - understand necessary to be bothered about the meanining :) |
| 09:45.59 | eTangenT | ruskie: See!? That's how little I understand it! |
| 09:47.15 | Manu | ruskie: it's german and english ;) |
| 09:47.15 | strayer | short summary: we talked/wrote about the match reports on the 1vs1 match servers...together with a lot blabla |
| 09:47.36 | ruskie | :) |
| 09:47.50 | ruskie | Manu, there's a few english words in all of it... ;) |
| 09:47.53 | strayer | it wasn't interesting so you didn't miss anything ^^ |
| 09:48.31 | strayer | yupp...except french...they have alternative words for nearly everything |
| 09:49.18 | Manu | strayer: spanisht too ;) |
| 09:49.23 | Manu | spanish* |
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| 09:50.36 | strayer | really?...well, why not...you have to fill the dictionaries somehow |
| 09:51.24 | Manu | strayer: we have also synonym dictionaries in spanish too :) |
| 09:53.12 | strayer | nooo...and I thougt germany would be the land of thinkers and poets...what do you need all these word for? Do you want to confuse the foreigners? ;) |
| 09:53.51 | Manu | no, siply spanish is a rich language |
| 09:53.55 | Manu | simply* |
| 09:55.33 | strayer | and this doesn't seem to be a disadvantage....when I see that germany is far behind spain in the PISA results |
| 09:56.51 | strayer | these studies aren't significant, of course ;o) |
| 09:56.59 | Manu | :) |
| 09:57.26 | Manu | strayer: how many countries do speak german? and how many countries do speak spanish? ;) |
| 09:58.03 | Manu | and spanish is growing in the world |
| 09:58.19 | strayer | german-german...just one; german-something...3 I think; spanish-something...uh...erm...a few more ;) |
| 09:58.44 | Manu | and.. how many millions of ppl do speak spanish ;) |
| 10:00.32 | strayer | around 388 Mio. ppl speak spanish (native lang) > wikipedia...less than expected |
| 10:01.00 | Manu | strayer: why so much words for a mean? for example in english, the word dog |
| 10:01.04 | Manu | is male or female? |
| 10:01.20 | Manu | we have "perro" male dog and "perra" female dog |
| 10:01.28 | Manu | well perro and perra have also a lot of means ;) |
| 10:02.51 | strayer | hmmm...so it's a kind of science to understand what the other is saying?...cool |
| 10:03.48 | strayer | a complex language should help to keep an exclusive status for a language...which doesn't seem to help for spanish :) |
| 10:03.49 | Manu | science? nah, also kids can understand it ;) |
| 10:04.19 | Manu | I guess you are mixing complex and rich :) |
| 10:04.44 | Manu | spanish is very easy to learn, a 3-4 years old kid can speak it :-p |
| 10:05.29 | strayer | we could check how many 3-4 year old children can speak spanish (in germany!) ;) |
| 10:06.12 | Manu | strayer: a 3-4 yr old spanish kid meet Germany and still can speak spanish ;) |
| 10:06.20 | Manu | hehe :-p |
| 10:06.30 | strayer | but you might be right...spanish (even with all it's richness) is surely easier to learn than most asian languages |
| 10:07.13 | strayer | lol...you really think so?...germany has special entry restrictions :D |
| 10:07.21 | Manu | I know :) |
| 10:07.34 | Manu | but not for europeans ;) |
| 10:08.36 | strayer | seems it wasn't to annyoing for you then...we should change that...just for you :) |
| 10:08.46 | Manu | strayer: my neighbour is german and he can speaks spanish.. (a funny one of curse) :) |
| 10:09.14 | Manu | strayer: das ist gut :) |
| 10:09.20 | strayer | a funny neighbour or a funny style of speaking spanish? :) |
| 10:09.29 | Manu | a funny accent |
| 10:09.52 | strayer | hehe...it's never wrong to say "das ist gut"...so...good phrase ;) |
| 10:09.54 | Manu | he speaks like with the mouth full of something.. like cake.. |
| 10:10.17 | Manu | it's the german I learn playing bzflag ;) |
| 10:10.19 | strayer | lol...ever checked if he really eats while he is talking to you? |
| 10:10.34 | strayer | oh...nice :) |
| 10:11.10 | Manu | I can say little german things like, hallo strayer mein guten freund ;) |
| 10:11.17 | Manu | all made in bzflag ;) |
| 10:11.54 | strayer | wow...sehr gut |
| 10:12.04 | Pimpi | i'm always surprise how amazingly fast the spanish speak |
| 10:12.39 | Manu | Pimpi: once a german guy told me how fast Fernando Alonso speaks, and in fact he speaks slow ;) |
| 10:12.39 | strayer | with such a rich language you have to speak fast to use all words withing a life-cycle |
| 10:13.02 | Manu | and the same guy told me germans can speak so fast because they looks too ugly doing it ;) |
| 10:13.03 | Pimpi | i remember the former spanish prime miniser, and i always thought his tongue must break immediately |
| 10:13.50 | Manu | Pimpi: specially in Extremadura where I live, can speak really fast |
| 10:14.17 | Manu | like a 8 words sentence in 1 second ;) |
| 10:14.40 | strayer | Manu: do you speak just fast or do you shorten the words or do you mix them togehter then? |
| 10:14.43 | Manu | in castuo, the Extremenian language |
| 10:15.01 | Manu | strayer: no short |
| 10:15.34 | strayer | so...you combine all words of a sentence to a long one? :) |
| 10:16.22 | Manu | no, simply it can be speaken fast because the sounds |
| 10:16.31 | Manu | gotta go.. :/ bbl |
| 10:16.37 | Manu | tschuess strayer und Pimpi :) |
| 10:16.49 | strayer | bis bald Manu :o) |
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| 13:52.24 | polydektes | JeffM a request and question... |
| 13:52.46 | polydektes | is it possible to one day to make it impossible to tk? |
| 13:53.06 | polydektes | where when you shoot someone who is on your team they do not die? |
| 13:53.31 | polydektes | certainly someone else has asked this... i just dont see why it cant be done |
| 13:53.51 | polydektes | just make it an option |
| 13:54.01 | whodaman- | how would you make it an option? |
| 13:54.19 | polydektes | _cantTk = 1 |
| 13:54.43 | polydektes | _cantTk = 0 |
| 13:54.46 | polydektes | :-D |
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| 14:01.30 | Thumper_ | polydektes: that exists today - it's a server option |
| 14:01.49 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.59 | polydektes | no not the shooter |
| 14:02.05 | polydektes | the one getting shot Thumper_ |
| 14:02.19 | Thumper_ | ah |
| 14:02.36 | polydektes | the shooter still gets a point taken off |
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| 14:02.45 | polydektes | but the shootee doesnt get killed |
| 14:04.51 | polydektes | damn i'd hate to have to do that |
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| 16:11.23 | brlcad | yo |
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| 20:40.26 | f687s | must...prevent....urge...to...scream....lol.... |
| 20:42.48 | a_meteorite | Um? |
| 20:46.07 | AAA_Awright | lolz! |
| 20:46.41 | f687s | Yeah, I doubt I would ever be able to really get into this... |
| 20:46.54 | whodaman- | hmmm |
| 20:47.54 | Winny | f687s: ??? |
| 20:48.05 | f687s | Part of the reason I came here was to check out the IRC protocol (the best the 80's had to offer) |
| 20:48.39 | Winny | uh, heh |
| 20:48.52 | L4m3r | IRC rocks |
| 20:50.14 | f687s | but 1 h@v3 th3s3 urg3s t0 t@lk l1ek @n A0Ler |
| 20:50.44 | a_meteorite | then you are in the wrong channel |
| 20:51.46 | Winny | in the wrong protocol |
| 20:54.28 | f687s | For some reason "IRC" and "Civilized Communication" just don't seem to go together for me. |
| 20:57.46 | whodaman- | freenode is where it's at |
| 20:58.09 | ruskie | not by his definition of what irc and civilized comms is :) |
| 20:58.28 | AAA_Awright | Consider freenode's mission: Provide communication for free software developers |
| 21:00.24 | Winny | although it does much more then that |
| 21:11.52 | AAA_Awright | In practice, yah. |
| 21:35.54 | TD-Linux | try efnet |
| 21:47.23 | JeffM | lol and aol speak == me riping your throat out. |
| 21:47.36 | JeffM | with a spoon |
| 21:49.29 | JeffM | unsharpened |
| 21:49.34 | L4m3r | fine fine |
| 21:49.48 | L4m3r | here ya go |
| 21:54.45 | f687s | Oh, come on, have I _ever_ acted like an AOLer? |
| 21:55.03 | JeffM | just statin a fact ;) |
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| 22:39.49 | spldart | anyone tank'in right now and on what server? |
| 22:41.01 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 22:41.49 | whodaman- | yay :) |
| 22:42.03 | Pimpi | yay? |
| 22:42.22 | whodaman- | ja, mein server is auf der ersten seite |
| 22:42.38 | spldart | vas was das? |
| 22:42.38 | Pimpi | welcher isses denn? |
| 22:42.39 | spldart | LOL |
| 22:42.59 | whodaman- | Pimpi, der welcher meinen namen tr?gt |
| 22:43.02 | whodaman- | spldart, :P |
| 22:43.08 | ruskie | how likely is it that shooting others while zoned would be a bug in .10 ? |
| 22:43.13 | spldart | No sprekenzee duesche |
| 22:43.18 | spldart | LOL |
| 22:43.22 | whodaman- | spldart, learn! |
| 22:43.27 | spldart | Nine |
| 22:43.35 | whodaman- | Eight |
| 22:43.39 | spldart | nyne |
| 22:43.42 | spldart | nyet |
| 22:43.43 | spldart | none |
| 22:43.45 | spldart | no |
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| 23:21.49 | spldart | I guess I left every1 speechless :( |
| 23:22.47 | inchworm | mmmm |
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| 23:29.22 | whodaman- | gnu-sense, ##bzflagr |
| 23:34.27 | keith80403 | Any known issues with BZFlag 2.0.8 with an Nvidia card? It works fine with my other machines, but when I load it on a Dell Dimension 4300 with an Nvidia card, the text changes to solid color blocks after choosing Start Server. Video is nVidia NV11 GeForce2 MX/MX 400. |
| 23:35.02 | JeffM | what driver and OS? |
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| 23:48.55 | spldart | >keith... do you get the messages at the bottom of the screen and is one of the 'direct' ? |
| 23:49.13 | spldart | And answer JeffM's query please... it's important |
| 23:52.31 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 23:52.38 | Gnurdux | its absolutely necessary |
| 23:53.06 | inchworm | the world may spin off its orbit without the answer... |
| 23:54.01 | spldart | Honestly... I've had some mobo's mixed with some vid cards have issues with some drivers... it's like the whole world came together and said... "No OpenGL" or more 'directl'ly "No BZFlag" |
| 23:54.33 | spldart | Most combo's come together without issue though :) |
| 23:56.08 | spldart | Oh.. Sry... Too late... Look for tech help on the other side ;-D |
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