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| 00:24.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r12 10/trunk/GPLib/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:24.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: flesh out the app interface. |
| 00:24.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: get the winAPI app to load. |
| 00:24.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: auto load the windows libs with a #pragma. |
| 00:24.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: add the optinal gpMain.h for apps that don't want to deal with doing a main and just want to create an app. |
| 00:24.37 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r13 10/trunk/GPLib/core/inc/displayBackend.h: displaybackend was rolled into gpDisplayBase so it's not needed |
| 00:28.35 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r14 10/trunk/GPLib/samples/ (11 files in 4 dirs): provide a simple example that inits an app using gpMain and uses a gpApp |
| 00:37.14 | JeffM | it is so wierd to have the main file of an app not have a main, and just have a single global |
| 00:40.58 | brlcad | hot damn! |
| 00:41.09 | Winny | cold damn? |
| 00:41.12 | brlcad | awesome, new .bz kernel installed without a hitch |
| 00:41.46 | brlcad | yay for remote kernel installs that work |
| 00:42.24 | JeffM | and if it didn't work, would you have to have called them and told them to hit a swithc? ;) |
| 00:42.58 | brlcad | yeah, they would have had to type some magic into the console to restore the previous kernel |
| 00:43.18 | brlcad | which .. I was all prepared to do given this was a pretty big jump forward |
| 00:43.43 | brlcad | they would have had to do a more that just hit a switch unfortunately |
| 00:44.29 | brlcad | I can actually hit the switch remotely now, even without ssh access |
| 00:44.50 | JeffM | ahh you went for the remote reset? |
| 00:45.26 | brlcad | no, they've always had that .. they just finally got around to actually installing the hardware that lets them do that |
| 00:45.35 | JeffM | ahhh |
| 00:45.45 | JeffM | some places charge extra for that |
| 00:45.50 | brlcad | that was the 5 minute downtime we had 56 days ago :) |
| 00:46.27 | Winny | why do you need remote reset, I thought it was its own box? |
| 00:46.34 | Winny | shouldn't it be able to reboot itself? :p |
| 00:46.45 | brlcad | yeah, even before they had that working, they would reboot the box for me on-demand for free, just had to ask |
| 00:47.07 | brlcad | even when I firewalled myself off the box (3 times) .. they went in and undid the firewall |
| 00:47.20 | JeffM | heh |
| 00:47.22 | Winny | brlcad: does shutdown -R NOW not work on sagonet for some reason? |
| 00:47.30 | brlcad | Winny: of course that works |
| 00:47.37 | brlcad | assuming you can type into a shell on that box |
| 00:47.51 | brlcad | kinda hard to do when you can't even log in for whatever reason |
| 00:48.18 | Winny | oh.. never thought of that |
| 00:48.25 | brlcad | this is actually a means to reboot without logging in |
| 00:48.30 | JeffM | like when you firewall yourself out from it |
| 00:49.01 | brlcad | or if the machine was thrashing the discs and procs were out of control (fork bombing, or something) |
| 00:49.12 | brlcad | not that you'd want to forcibly reboot for that.. |
| 00:49.21 | brlcad | but sometimes you dont' have a choice |
| 01:03.17 | blast007 | ts: just reading the scrollback, and not sure if you got an answer to this (lots of netsplits) |
| 01:03.21 | blast007 | 13:45:04 < ts> brlcad: Seems like session.auto_start is 0 |
| 01:03.25 | blast007 | that's the default |
| 01:03.36 | blast007 | you should use session_start(); to start a session |
| 01:06.31 | blast007 | run bittorrent ;) |
| 01:07.06 | brlcad | want hard numbers on burst rate, sustain rate, and connection rate if possible |
| 01:07.38 | brlcad | ttcp-analysis, maybe a dslreport scan |
| 01:07.44 | Winny | what if a few of us tried to download a file from your server onto ours? Surely that would max out the pipe |
| 01:07.47 | brlcad | compare new to old |
| 01:08.39 | brlcad | controlled testing, there are tools for this :) |
| 01:10.37 | JeffM | the stuff from dslreports.com would need to be run on the machine |
| 01:10.42 | JeffM | and it's all flash and java stuff |
| 01:10.45 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r15 10/trunk/GPLib/ (7 files in 3 dirs): start a windows display class |
| 01:11.55 | brlcad | yeah, they're not the best example |
| 01:12.22 | brlcad | ttcp by itself is a great measure, that'll give a directly comparable sustain rate |
| 01:14.45 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r16 10/trunk/GPLib/samples/devApp/ (devApp.cpp devApp.h): init a basic display |
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| 06:24.52 | Flash | Can someone help me configure a brand new Macbook running Leopard so I can build bzflag? |
| 06:25.21 | Flash | I tried just running configure, but it's complaining about missing stuff |
| 06:26.19 | Flash | I downloaded and installed SDL, but it doesn't appear to be showing up properly for bzflag |
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| 06:36.16 | Flash | JeffM: are you awake? |
| 06:36.33 | JeffM | yes |
| 06:36.56 | Flash | can you help me get my new Leopard configuration set up? |
| 06:37.15 | JeffM | I'm probalby not the best person for it |
| 06:37.19 | JeffM | haven't had a mac in a while |
| 06:37.22 | JeffM | what problem are you having? |
| 06:37.49 | Flash | configure reports no curses, SDL |
| 06:38.00 | Flash | but I just downloaded and installed SDL last night |
| 06:38.02 | JeffM | do you have the SDL framework installed? |
| 06:38.08 | JeffM | the framework and dev package? |
| 06:38.34 | Flash | hmmm. you make me doubt the dev package.... |
| 06:38.58 | JeffM | there are also bugs in SDL with 10.5 |
| 06:39.06 | JeffM | you may have to go back to an older SDL, .11 I think |
| 06:39.48 | Flash | sigh. last time it was bugs in QuickTime that had me captive to an older version.... |
| 06:40.06 | JeffM | welcome to apple ;) |
| 06:40.22 | JeffM | one vendor to rule them all |
| 06:40.45 | JeffM | what version are you trying to build? |
| 06:40.54 | JeffM | 2.0.x or 2.1.x? |
| 06:41.03 | JeffM | cus we have a bin for 2.0.10rc3 that should work fine for you |
| 06:41.04 | Flash | 2.0 first |
| 06:41.27 | JeffM | the 10.4 bin for rc3 has been reported to work fine on 10.5 |
| 06:41.39 | Flash | I have the plugin that reports collision detection and another that tracks IP addresses that I'm fond of |
| 06:41.59 | JeffM | then you don't need sdl for the server |
| 06:42.09 | JeffM | and plug-ins |
| 06:42.09 | JeffM | nor curses |
| 06:42.18 | Flash | no, those are on the client side |
| 06:42.32 | JeffM | how did you make client side plugins? |
| 06:42.42 | Flash | patches, really |
| 06:42.42 | JeffM | we don't have an API or plug-in loader there |
| 06:42.46 | JeffM | ahh |
| 06:42.51 | JeffM | yeah then you get to fight the 10.5 |
| 06:43.17 | Flash | I don't mind too much; I just didn't understand why it complained about stuff that should have been there |
| 06:43.17 | JeffM | basicly from what I've heard, you'll need to build the last version of sdl from soruces, and get a framework out of it |
| 06:43.24 | Flash | Yes, I did screw up SDL |
| 06:43.40 | Flash | I don't know why I don't have curses |
| 06:43.53 | JeffM | the current 1.2.12 has some keyboard bug that prevents the F keys from working |
| 06:44.01 | JeffM | you don't need curses for the client |
| 06:44.03 | JeffM | only for bzadmin |
| 06:44.35 | JeffM | and with extended observer info in 2.0.10, it now shows the expected collisions |
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| 06:46.58 | Flash | ok, I think I properly have both SDL frameworks in, but it still isn't finding it. |
| 06:47.09 | Flash | checking for SDL framework... no |
| 06:47.16 | JeffM | dunno man |
| 06:47.24 | JeffM | what sources are you using? |
| 06:47.29 | JeffM | current svn? |
| 06:47.31 | JeffM | or older stuff? |
| 06:47.32 | Flash | yes |
| 06:47.37 | Flash | I just refreshed it |
| 06:47.41 | JeffM | dunno |
| 06:47.55 | JeffM | lot of people been having problems with 10.5 |
| 06:48.38 | JeffM | brlcad: has looked into it somewhat, but I don't think he's had the time to do a full build eval. |
| 06:56.16 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r18 10/trunk/GPLib/inc/gpDisplay.h: BitsPerPixel is an int not a bool |
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| 14:24.54 | ts | 02:12 |
| 14:25.04 | ts | grr... |
| 14:37.50 | brlcad | 09:37 |
| 14:37.54 | brlcad | wee... |
| 14:43.07 | ts | forgot the /sb goto |
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| 15:37.49 | delusional | and then the same thing happens on the same model, when bzfs crashes on the obj that di-machine WILL process. |
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| 16:45.28 | nu_conteaza | got a problem with bzflag using debian lenny/sid with an ati x200M 8.42.3 driver version... got 1 or 2 fps ... anyone got this problem too ? |
| 16:46.45 | nu_conteaza | a friend of mine using the same driver and same card ... can the play the game nicely |
| 16:54.16 | ruskie | is dri actualy active |
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| 17:07.41 | nu_conteaza | oh, yes the dri |
| 17:07.42 | nu_conteaza | glxinfo direct rendering yes |
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| 17:19.30 | JeffM | delusional, who's doiung your striping and faning? are you reading the output of stripe? or you have code to do it internaly? |
| 17:22.00 | delusional | i think teppic offered a stripping script, then tedius added it to di_machine..... not sure exactly what the process was, maybe tedius did it himself |
| 17:22.20 | Tedius_Leopard | di_machine just uses the output from the stripe program |
| 17:23.41 | delusional | im having difficulty keeping up... bouncing between both is confusing me, worse than usual. |
| 17:27.11 | JeffM | ok, so you just parse it's output |
| 17:27.17 | JeffM | we should add that to modeltool as well |
| 17:27.53 | JeffM | the work your doing is great, but we should have an official tool that suports it, and I don't think PHP is the way to go for it. |
| 17:27.54 | delusional | not to mention figuring trying t figure out all the vagueries of uv mapping, at the same time... dimachine does better with color materials, i dont see a lot of purpose in texmapping a surface that's not gonna have an image applied. |
| 17:28.26 | JeffM | what does it put in the draw info for the UV coordinate? |
| 17:28.35 | JeffM | when the surface has no texture? |
| 17:28.41 | JeffM | just some fake ID? |
| 17:28.45 | delusional | tedius? |
| 17:36.43 | delusional | isn't a fake ID all that's necessary for a color material? |
| 17:38.24 | Tedius_Leopard | Yeah, I think it only needs one texcoord to work, and it is just a fake one |
| 17:38.34 | JeffM | then we can do that too simple |
| 17:38.57 | Tedius_Leopard | if(!isset($texcoord[0])) $texcoord[0]="0 0 0"; |
| 17:41.55 | delusional | wait a second... modeltool will accept stripe's output? |
| 17:42.04 | JeffM | no |
| 17:42.10 | JeffM | but it should be trivial to make it do so |
| 17:42.14 | delusional | ok thx |
| 17:42.28 | JeffM | I mean if you can parse it we can parse it |
| 17:52.23 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16164 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (model.h modeltool.cxx): if the mesh dosn't have any UV coods then go and make a fake UV at 0,0 when building the draw info |
| 17:55.05 | JeffM | there is that part |
| 18:10.52 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16165 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:10.52 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: allocate storage for stips and fans in the model. |
| 18:10.52 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: prep a file reader for obj files output from the "stripe" tool. |
| 18:11.06 | JeffM | what's the extension on the striped obj files? |
| 18:14.05 | Tedius_Leopard | um, objf |
| 18:14.09 | JeffM | thanks |
| 18:14.17 | Tedius_Leopard | I'm not sure how standard that format is |
| 18:14.20 | JeffM | it's not |
| 18:14.31 | JeffM | hence why I called it "stripeobj" :) |
| 18:14.43 | JeffM | got a sample file for me? |
| 18:14.58 | Tedius_Leopard | http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/ |
| 18:15.16 | JeffM | yes I know where the tool is, do you have a simple sample file I could use? |
| 18:15.37 | Tedius_Leopard | there are 4 there |
| 18:15.45 | JeffM | ahh thanks |
| 18:15.59 | Tedius_Leopard | oops, I see what you mean... http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/downloads.html |
| 18:15.59 | JeffM | oh look, also a description of the format, sweet |
| 18:16.20 | JeffM | what is the contiuation thing? |
| 18:16.34 | JeffM | do you just add that to the end of the last "t" line? |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM | so T 1 2 3 |
| 18:16.49 | JeffM | Q 4 |
| 18:16.49 | Tedius_Leopard | yeah, its pretty dumb |
| 18:16.55 | JeffM | is the same as t 1 2 3 4 ? |
| 18:17.08 | Tedius_Leopard | yep |
| 18:17.30 | JeffM | how does it put normals? |
| 18:17.41 | JeffM | t 1/1/1 2/2/2 3/3/3 ? |
| 18:18.23 | Tedius_Leopard | yeah, same way as the normal obj stuff |
| 18:18.35 | Tedius_Leopard | I think those are simplified examples on that format page |
| 18:19.02 | JeffM | the sample files there are not stipred yet |
| 18:19.06 | JeffM | they are normal OBJs |
| 18:19.19 | JeffM | but I think I can figure it out |
| 18:19.43 | JeffM | in fact I don't even need another reader |
| 18:20.41 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16166 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (stripeOBJ.cxx stripeOBJ.h): the striped obj format is a minimal extension of standard OJB, so we don't need a special reader, we can just make the normal obj reader take the t and q commands. |
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| 18:35.42 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16167 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (Makefile.am vc71/modeltool.vcproj): don't need the stripeOBJ reader anymore |
| 18:36.05 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16168 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/model.h: clear stips and fans when we clear the model |
| 18:36.33 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16169 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/wavefrontOBJ.cxx: read the T and Q commands and add them as strips |
| 18:56.16 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16170 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/modeltool.cxx: |
| 18:56.16 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: use strips and fans to compute bounds |
| 18:56.16 | CIA-41 | BZFlag: output strips and fans that are in the mesh with each LOD |
| 18:56.26 | JeffM | there ya go, untested strip and fan support |
| 18:57.00 | JeffM | just remember you can only use strips and fans on the LOD geometry, not the bounds or the static. |
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| 20:18.29 | tannerld | ~Thumper_++ |
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| 20:27.11 | Constitution | is it good practice (and valid) to free a player record that may be null? |
| 20:28.03 | Constitution | in other words, should I free the player record inside or outside of my if( pr ) { } block? |
| 20:28.14 | Thumper_ | Constitution: doesn't hurt. it uses delete[] which is safe |
| 20:28.24 | Constitution | k, thanks |
| 20:52.36 | JeffM | that and the api checks to see if it's null |
| 20:52.42 | JeffM | IIRC |
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| 22:23.41 | Winny | LOL http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=116870#116870 |
| 22:24.21 | tannerld | wasn't that April Fools? |
| 22:24.38 | Winny | it was |
| 22:24.42 | Winny | he just can;t reaky |
| 22:24.44 | Winny | read |
| 22:24.50 | Winny | and I can't type, apparantly |
| 22:25.18 | ruskie | lol |
| 22:55.41 | JeffM | Winny, please comunicate clearly in your post and do not make posts that are not constructive, or off topic |
| 22:55.52 | JeffM | your post was just as bad as his |
| 22:56.03 | JeffM | even worse it was a LOL ME 2 post |
| 22:56.31 | JeffM | point it out to an admin and leave it be |
| 22:59.34 | Winny | alright then. |
| 22:59.55 | Winny | "Im sorry to inform you, but you have been pwnd. This thread was an April fools joke, if you have not already been informed' |
| 23:00.17 | JeffM | thats till inflamitory, but at least that has SOME info in it |
| 23:00.36 | Winny | he ws kind of asking for inflamatory, seeing as he didn't read anything |
| 23:00.46 | JeffM | your just as bad as capping for the team with using "pwnd" |
| 23:01.08 | JeffM | you know the board rules, no flaimbait |
| 23:01.12 | Winny | you need to get out more, lots of people say that |
| 23:01.38 | JeffM | there are lots of words that lots of people say that we don't allow or like |
| 23:01.51 | Winny | you disallow "pwnd"? |
| 23:02.00 | JeffM | techincaly it's leet or AOL speak |
| 23:02.09 | JeffM | and we disaprove of those |
| 23:02.14 | Winny | so is "lol" and "rofl" |
| 23:02.23 | JeffM | yeah and if those are abbused we say stuff |
| 23:02.32 | JeffM | hence the "clear comunication in posts" section in the rules |
| 23:02.49 | JeffM | your post had a very high crap/content ratio |
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| 23:44.41 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r19 10/trunk/GPLib/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-41 | GPLib: implement a basic app based event system |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-41 | GPLib: get the base display to call virtual event functions back into the core display |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-41 | GPLib: allow displays to quit the app on close if the bit is set. |
| 23:44.41 | CIA-41 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r20 10/trunk/GPLib/samples/devApp/ (devApp.cpp devApp.h): swap to the new event system, and tell the app to quit on the closure of the main display. |