| 00:11.47 | brlcad | hah! .. now that is really funny .. the guy running the open source coverity scans was at the summit |
| 00:12.14 | brlcad | he's also one of the netbsd leads |
| 00:12.18 | AAA_awright | Message SeenServ, ~seen isn't reliable. At all. /msg SeenServ seen [nick] |
| 00:12.20 | brlcad | didn't even make the connection when I saw his name |
| 00:15.33 | JeffM | coverity scans? |
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| 00:17.26 | brlcad | coverity has been doing scans of open source software now for a little over a year |
| 00:17.40 | brlcad | static source code analysis for bugs, leaks, lots of issues |
| 00:17.40 | JeffM | looking for what? |
| 00:18.03 | brlcad | it is basically similar to flawfinder, but on crack, and pretty much one of the best at what it does |
| 00:18.47 | brlcad | brl-cad is on their list to be scanned, so i've been talking to them for a few weeks; if the scan proved really helpful, I was going to look into requesting a bzflag scan too |
| 00:18.58 | brlcad | s/weeks/many months/ |
| 00:19.36 | JeffM | looking for buffer overruns, etc..? |
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| 00:37.10 | brlcad | yeah |
| 00:38.03 | brlcad | it actually tracks all possible paths throught the code, possible values at various points, potentials not only for overruns but also many many other issues |
| 00:41.41 | Erroneous | 'tis a very nifty tool |
| 00:41.51 | Erroneous | wine has had quite good results (but numerous false positives) |
| 00:43.24 | tannerld_ | errr |
| 00:43.27 | tannerld_ | oh |
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| 00:57.50 | tannerld | how can I make it so both teams in a CTF match repsawn at their bases? |
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| 11:48.19 | zack | hi TheBArron |
| 11:48.33 | zack | and hi all |
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| 12:12.45 | neutronix7 | anyone know how to get the score from within bzadmin? having a hard time googling that |
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| 12:35.49 | donny_baker | neutronix7: don't know that you can |
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| 12:50.08 | Thumper_ | neutronix7: F2 |
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| 12:59.06 | _anomaly_ | which score are you talking about? player scores can be seen by pressing F2 and 'show players' |
| 12:59.42 | ruskie | he means in bzadmin |
| 13:01.24 | _anomaly_ | i know, in bzadmin you can press F2 to see the menus |
| 13:02.38 | _anomaly_ | if you want player scores they are there, you can't see team scores in bzadmin tho. |
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| 13:16.44 | Tedius | the f2 thing has never worked for me on a mac, am I doing something wrong? |
| 13:20.04 | _anomaly_ | not sure about mac's, i'm running GNU/Linux |
| 13:20.18 | _anomaly_ | probably a different key ? |
| 13:20.32 | _anomaly_ | gotta be some way to show the menus |
| 13:20.37 | whodaman- | Tedius, i'm using mac too, doesn't work either |
| 13:21.06 | Tedius | opt-F2, ctrl-F2,cmd-F2, all no good |
| 13:21.26 | _anomaly_ | unless someone else can shed some light on the mac issue, i'll look at the code when I get a chance |
| 13:21.38 | _anomaly_ | maybe that will help |
| 13:43.39 | blast007 | Tedius: is it a curses build of bzadmin? |
| 13:44.20 | Tedius | I think so, wouldn't it be included in the binary? |
| 13:45.20 | blast007 | does it have color? |
| 13:45.34 | Tedius | yep |
| 13:45.42 | blast007 | okay, then it's curses |
| 13:46.59 | Tedius | it doesn't give any errors when I type: bzadmin -ui curses |
| 13:55.59 | _anomaly_ | key F2 is hardcoded in CursesUI::CheckCommand() (CursesUI.cxx) to toggleMenu() |
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| 14:05.32 | Tedius | when I hit F2, it thinks I'm typing OQ, is that an xterm thing? |
| 14:07.58 | Tedius | ooh, in terminal F2 is mapped to: \033OQ is that what it should be? |
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| 14:31.32 | donny_baker | bzadmin 2.0.10 RC3 on vista is borked... "pdcurses.dll was not found" |
| 14:35.28 | blast007 | hmm |
| 14:35.37 | donny_baker | checking xp now |
| 14:36.58 | donny_baker | yep, same thing on my XP machine |
| 14:37.47 | blast007 | yeah |
| 14:38.22 | blast007 | same with RC2 |
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| 20:16.14 | Winny | whoever was messing with the PHP BB template: IMO, you made the "Last Post" colium far too narrow |
| 20:16.20 | Winny | collumn* |
| 20:16.30 | Winny | err... yeah |
| 20:19.08 | donny_baker | do you not see all the info?? |
| 20:19.58 | donny_baker | oh, I see it now... not on the main page, but inside the individual forums |
| 20:21.23 | CBG | Fix your browser. |
| 20:21.26 | CBG | Looks fine to me. |
| 20:22.40 | Winny | uh, it was fine up to a few days ago, until blast007 fiddled with it |
| 20:22.42 | Winny | so there! |
| 20:23.41 | CBG | That column seems to be a fixed width of about 154 px. Perfectly adequate. |
| 20:24.02 | donny_baker | CBG: did you go into one of the forum headings... looks fine on main page |
| 20:24.10 | CBG | Yes I did. |
| 20:24.12 | Winny | Looks really stupid when someone has a long name |
| 20:24.16 | Tedius | ew, it is bad in firefox, fine in Safari |
| 20:24.22 | Winny | for that matter, it looks stupid overall.. |
| 20:24.39 | Tedius | it looks like it is 20 px wide |
| 20:25.02 | donny_baker | hehe... fine in ie too |
| 20:25.06 | CBG | "Fix your browser." |
| 20:25.12 | CBG | No problems in Safari. |
| 20:25.20 | Winny | CBG: safari != the interwebz |
| 20:25.53 | CBG | Winny: if only one of multiple browsers displays the problem, it's quite likely to be an issue with the browser. |
| 20:26.14 | Winny | actually, it would be an issue with the rendering engine, which is used across multiple browsers. |
| 20:26.14 | CBG | Web developers should NOT have to hack up their code to make it work differently on multiple browsers... |
| 20:26.14 | Tedius | CBG's motto of accessibility, "fix your browser" |
| 20:26.26 | Winny | but yet, thats how life works |
| 20:26.30 | CBG | All half-decent browsers should conform to standards. |
| 20:26.31 | Winny | CBG: ever heard of IE 6? |
| 20:26.44 | CBG | IE = Microsoft = A special case. |
| 20:26.49 | Winny | it was conforming fine until someone changed the code |
| 20:27.29 | CBG | Hmm, ok. Looks stupid in Camino too. |
| 20:27.42 | CBG | But hey, that's basically FireFox anyhow. |
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| 20:27.56 | Winny | Gecko rendering engine, IIRC |
| 20:39.22 | gsnedders | Tedius: interoperability != accessibility |
| 20:45.00 | ruskie | hmm gsnedders don't see you much play lately... |
| 20:45.19 | gsnedders | ruskie: BZ is crashes non-stop here |
| 20:46.33 | ruskie | youch :( |
| 20:46.42 | gsnedders | s/es/ing/ |
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| 20:50.34 | Tedius | gsnedders: accessibility implies disability I suppose, pardon my offensiveness |
| 20:50.58 | gsnedders | Tedius: heh. I'm far less pedantic about it than some of the other people on the HTML WG. |
| 20:51.23 | Tedius | :) |
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| 21:42.58 | Constitution | hmm, intercepted some chat on my server from NightMare aka g0d about plans to run a cheat server |
| 21:43.26 | Winny | if its not publically listed, thats fine, IIRC. |
| 21:43.45 | Constitution | seems he does plan to publically list it |
| 21:43.48 | ruskie | afaik there is a newb server running |
| 21:43.50 | ruskie | and listed |
| 21:44.02 | ruskie | but it doesn't advertise itself as a ceat server aafik |
| 21:44.11 | Constitution | anyway, it's not a problem yet I guess, but I'd be happy to disclose the logs to the admins if it's at all helpful |
| 22:00.05 | JeffM | if it's not advertised there is not much we can/should do |
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| 22:05.23 | L4m3r | yeah, we can't force people to admin their servers (unfortunately) |
| 22:24.54 | tannerld | I don't suppose there is a way to make players spawn less in one spawn zone than another? |
| 22:26.20 | SpazzyMcGee | You could double up a spawn zone |
| 22:26.43 | tannerld | ehh...sounds dirty |
| 22:26.54 | SpazzyMcGee | i.e. more than one over the same spot = twice the spawns there. |
| 22:27.10 | SpazzyMcGee | *two on one spot |
| 22:28.23 | Constitution | or just create a plugin to calculate the spawn locations |
| 22:29.49 | tannerld | map makers are plugin creators? bleh |
| 22:31.01 | Constitution | plugins and maps work hand-in-hand for the best gameplay :) |
| 22:31.51 | tannerld | bleh - someone needs to document plugin creation |
| 22:31.59 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16037 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/HoldTheFlag/HoldTheFlag.cpp: Quell comparison warning. |
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| 22:42.54 | donny_baker | seems BZAdmin was broken in RC1 as well, works in 2.0.9s8 |
| 22:44.10 | JeffM | the DLL thing? |
| 22:45.20 | donny_baker | yeah |
| 22:50.36 | JeffM | that's just an installer issue |
| 22:51.05 | donny_baker | k |
| 22:51.54 | tannerld | what does _shotTailLength affect? |
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| 23:20.15 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16038 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/koth/koth.cpp: Can't compare a string literal with a const char* using '=='. |
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| 23:40.59 | tannerld | what does _shotTailLength affect? |
| 23:41.11 | CBG | probably the tail length of shots |
| 23:41.21 | tannerld | which tail length? |
| 23:41.35 | CBG | the tail of the shot |
| 23:41.55 | tannerld | the shots have tails? heh... |
| 23:42.13 | Erroneous | if you turn them on they do |
| 23:42.53 | tannerld | the client shot tails? isn't that customizible by the client too? |
| 23:43.12 | awilcox | Hi. |
| 23:43.36 | Erroneous | it should be client-only, but appears to be packed in the state database |
| 23:43.41 | Erroneous | could be a bug |
| 23:43.43 | awilcox | I'm just starting debugging now but was wondering if you guys knew anything already about this problem. I just svn up'd then make; make install. |
| 23:44.00 | tannerld | Erroneous: heh |
| 23:44.04 | awilcox | When I attempted to run "bzflag", it ran fine. when I punched "Quit", um, ... |
| 23:44.20 | awilcox | xinit said that the X server had it's connection reset by peer and X11 terminated. |
| 23:44.39 | Erroneous | sounds like your video drivers died |
| 23:44.46 | awilcox | Fatal server error: |
| 23:44.47 | awilcox | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
| 23:45.05 | awilcox | there's a 12 line backtrace, shall I pastebin? |
| 23:46.40 | awilcox | http://rafb.net/p/DUL5Iz77.html |
| 23:48.04 | awilcox | xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r1, mesa-6.5.2-r1, and BZFlag HEAD (literally just did an svn up). |
| 23:48.33 | Erroneous | yup, video drivers |
| 23:49.03 | awilcox | video-ati-6.6.3 |
| 23:49.50 | awilcox | how come every time I run BZFlag HEAD it ends up with a vital part of my system dying? last time I did this, in April, it leaked memory to the point of kernel panic :p |
| 23:50.03 | JeffM | ok |
| 23:50.04 | JeffM | ww |
| 23:50.38 | awilcox | Erroneous: how exactly could I debug this? would hooking into bzflag even help? |
| 23:51.00 | awilcox | if it's video drivers I don't think bzflag would be at fault |
| 23:51.16 | awilcox | here |
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| 23:52.03 | Erroneous | nope. talk to the mesa people maybe. |
| 23:52.07 | awilcox586 | I'm typing this from my console so that I can read out the exact error it printed (it didn't log it for some reason) |
| 23:52.48 | awilcox | O.o |
| 23:52.55 | awilcox | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.56 | awilcox | No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting |
| 23:54.37 | Constitution | bzflag -directory /path/to/data/dir |
| 23:54.41 | Constitution | probably /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 23:55.13 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16039 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/nagware/nagware.cpp: More string literal comparison fixes. |
| 23:56.30 | Erroneous | awilcox: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10995 |
| 23:57.22 | awilcox586 | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 23:57.44 | awilcox586 | login: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" |
| 23:57.54 | awilcox586 | xinit: connection to X server lost. |
| 23:59.47 | Erroneous | awilcox586: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-commit/2007-March/000308.html is the relevant patch |