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| 01:20.42 | brlcad | yay for sake and sushi! |
| 01:20.56 | brlcad | SportChick: nyah nyah! |
| 01:21.06 | brlcad | Thumper_: okay :) |
| 01:26.53 | brlcad | Manu: still slow? |
| 01:26.57 | brlcad | purple_cow: Friday |
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| 01:33.35 | purple_cow | ok, cool |
| 01:33.59 | purple_cow | I'm leaving midday sunday, but will be here until then |
| 01:36.46 | blast007 | hrm... after a capture on my ducati server, the team flag doesn't reset to the base, nor do players respawn on the base |
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| 01:40.15 | delusional_ | we didnt see that on 4 team, blast |
| 01:40.30 | blast007 | only had 21 hours of uptime on the server |
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| 01:53.30 | forrestv | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:10.05 | delusional_ | 800 yard M 13-14 0:15:35.0. 0:01:57.0.0 |
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| 04:45.06 | Constitution | woot, revision 16000? :) |
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| 05:45.28 | jude- | hello all |
| 05:47.28 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r16001 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 05:47.28 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Group objects now encapsulate BZW1-conformant objects inside separate transformation containers that will |
| 05:47.28 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: eventually apply an inverse transformation present in the top-level group container for cosmetic reasons-- |
| 05:47.29 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: BZW1 objects in BZFlag's scenegraph aren't affected by BZW2 transformations within groups, it seems. |
| 06:06.23 | Constitution | ~jude-++ |
| 06:08.56 | jude- | :) |
| 06:09.12 | AAA_awright | jude-: If you are interested, I updated the graphs on Stats with Graphs: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/player/sse |
| 06:10.17 | jude- | neat :) |
| 06:10.38 | jude- | ~AAA_awright++ |
| 06:10.45 | AAA_awright | I still need a killer feature... BZStocks was a killer feature |
| 06:11.13 | AAA_awright | On BZStocks. |
| 06:11.33 | jude- | hmmm.... |
| 06:11.51 | AAA_awright | Time machine. Need a time machine. How do I do that? |
| 06:12.03 | Constitution | looks like sse is fond of bloodbath |
| 06:12.10 | AAA_awright | Yes |
| 06:12.43 | jude- | what if there could be a bird's eye view of the game the player was in? heavy web-2.0, but that'd be REALLY freakin' awesome :) |
| 06:12.46 | AAA_awright | Ah, did it kill the marathon? |
| 06:13.18 | AAA_awright | I have the player position grapher, but that requires a bot that is joined on the server |
| 06:13.36 | jude- | ahh |
| 06:13.41 | Constitution | just a map preview? |
| 06:13.50 | Constitution | blast007 did something like that |
| 06:14.01 | Constitution | although it would probably need to be updated for 2.0 objects |
| 06:14.10 | AAA_awright | It shows red/blue/green/purple dots on a blank radar |
| 06:14.17 | AAA_awright | updates every 2 seconds |
| 06:14.23 | blast007 | Constitution: mine was just for the map itself |
| 06:14.31 | blast007 | didn't do anything with player positions |
| 06:14.32 | jude- | AAA_awright: that's really cool :) |
| 06:14.41 | jude- | hehe--instant replay :) |
| 06:14.58 | AAA_awright | I am working on a web-based replayer |
| 06:15.11 | AAA_awright | It takes a RecordReplay file and replays it in the browser |
| 06:15.18 | Constitution | neat |
| 06:15.26 | jude- | can't wait till that comes online :) |
| 06:15.43 | Constitution | will it be just for BZFX servers? |
| 06:15.45 | AAA_awright | It takes a while to load all the data, but you can see the file metadata: http://can.bzfx.net/replay |
| 06:16.48 | AAA_awright | Constitution: This is for the CAN network, anyone using the plugin will be able to do this |
| 06:16.53 | Constitution | ah, k |
| 06:17.26 | AAA_awright | It uses SVG to print the radar and images of tanks |
| 06:19.05 | AAA_awright | Uh-oh |
| 06:19.21 | jude- | 56% and counting :) |
| 06:19.24 | AAA_awright | You won't see any tanks move around just yet, I do have the functions down to do that though |
| 06:19.37 | Constitution | looks like a good framework so far |
| 06:19.49 | Constitution | 2D view, I take it? |
| 06:19.53 | AAA_awright | Yah |
| 06:22.55 | jude- | oooh |
| 06:23.18 | jude- | ~AAA_awright++ |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r16002 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (Debug/objects.mk src/objects/bz2object.cpp): |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Added methods to bz2object to add, insert, and remove individual transformations (with the intent of |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: allowing UpdateMessage to encapsulate individual transformation changes). |
| 06:44.01 | Manu | brlcad: nope |
| 06:49.24 | AAA_awright | This is an interesting graph: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/player/headhouse#s332524 |
| 06:50.01 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r16003 10/trunk/bzworkbench/include/UpdateMessage.h: |
| 06:50.01 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: UpdateMessage now honors the INSERT_TRANSFORMATION and INSERT_MATERIAL messages, and provides |
| 06:50.02 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: a unique message structure for each. |
| 06:50.26 | AAA_awright | Starts doing well, right? And the normalized score is positive... But the win streak graph dips below 0 at the end, because it doesn't count the early wins, only the most recent deaths |
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| 07:10.48 | AAA_awright | Bye everyone |
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| 13:20.26 | trac_ | Does anybody know how to use bzrobots in 2.1.X? |
| 13:20.59 | trac_ | first of all: hey guys and girls ^^ |
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| 13:28.21 | trac_ | nobody here? ^^ |
| 13:28.51 | tannerld | all sleeping |
| 13:29.25 | whodaman- | lol |
| 13:29.29 | trac_ | what time is this in the states? ^^ |
| 13:29.38 | whodaman- | trac_, where are you from? |
| 13:29.41 | trac_ | germany |
| 13:29.52 | whodaman- | Sprichst du deutsch> |
| 13:30.06 | trac_ | germany |
| 13:30.08 | trac_ | naja, so viel, wie man als Muttersprachler so kann. |
| 13:30.23 | whodaman- | ja ich habs an den ^^ erkannt |
| 13:30.32 | whodaman- | des machen nur die deutschen... |
| 13:30.40 | trac_ | nicht wirklich, aber meist |
| 13:30.46 | trac_ | liegt wohl an der tastatur ^^ |
| 13:30.57 | whodaman- | jedenfalls is das relativ untypisch f?r amis |
| 13:31.17 | whodaman- | was wolltest du jetzt ?berhaupt wissen |
| 13:31.19 | trac_ | ihr kennt euch nicht rein zufällig mit der 2.1.X serie aus, oder? |
| 13:31.33 | whodaman- | ich nich. benutzt du windows? |
| 13:31.56 | whodaman- | jetz is erst 7-9 inden usa |
| 13:32.21 | trac_ | nein, hautpsächlich linux |
| 13:32.33 | whodaman- | ok. |
| 13:32.58 | Macrosoft | ...? |
| 13:33.08 | whodaman- | Es ist eigentlich am besten freitags oder samstags zufragen |
| 13:33.31 | trac_ | hmmm... so wie ich die typen kenne, sind die doch sicherlich 7 tage die woche hier ^^ |
| 13:33.42 | whodaman- | ja schon :P |
| 13:33.55 | whodaman- | aber sind besser am WE ansprechbar |
| 13:34.05 | donny_baker | trac_: 9:33 AM on the east coast |
| 13:34.12 | whodaman- | lol |
| 13:34.19 | whodaman- | cya |
| 13:34.21 | trac_ | donny_baker: thx, that explains it ^^ |
| 13:34.26 | Macrosoft | 8:35 AM Central time |
| 13:35.08 | tannerld | donny_baker: shhh |
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| 16:12.45 | JeffM | yay for airport wifi :) |
| 16:13.15 | tannerld | :P |
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| 17:21.02 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16004 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: |
| 17:21.03 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Fix null pointer dereference |
| 17:21.03 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Make sure the pointer is valid before we dereference it. |
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| 17:47.37 | bryjen | would someone with a 2.1 client connect to bryjen.bzflag.org:5155 and see if all the mesh objects are drive-through for you too? |
| 17:50.20 | bryjen | the flags are at z=0 instead of on the "ground" mesh. maybe it's a server-side problem then :/ |
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| 18:06.28 | bryjen | argh, my client locked up after you disconnected, blast007. it said serverlink:read() loop in the message box |
| 18:06.36 | blast007 | bryjen: I do see some drivethrough items in the map, but definately not the whole thing |
| 18:06.42 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:07.21 | bryjen | yeah, that map works fine for 2.0 |
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| 19:25.36 | libervisco | Hi |
| 19:25.46 | libervisco | How would I make a video in BZFlag? |
| 19:26.03 | Winny | you'd use a 3rd party video recorder |
| 19:26.23 | Macrosoft | video? like for a replay server? |
| 19:26.24 | Winny | BZFlag can only take still screenshots (in PNG format), byt pressing f5 |
| 19:26.29 | libervisco | ah that wont work well...on GNU/Linux... |
| 19:27.22 | libervisco | Macrosoft, for a promo video for the Free Software gaming tourney (I posted about it a while ago on forums) |
| 19:27.44 | libervisco | I already did a video but only FPS, Tremulous, Nexuiz, OpenArena |
| 19:28.10 | Macrosoft | check sourceforge for a recording app |
| 19:28.13 | libervisco | It's gonna be a FOSS game festival! :) |
| 19:28.43 | libervisco | Macrosoft, I know about xvidcap, istanbul, recordmydesktop.. none work so well right now.. |
| 19:28.55 | Macrosoft | why not? |
| 19:29.09 | libervisco | too slow (very low framerate) or just unstable |
| 19:29.26 | Macrosoft | oh, dont have a better machine to use? |
| 19:29.52 | libervisco | This is best I can get, Intel Core 2 Duo E6320, 1.5GB of RAM :P |
| 19:30.02 | libervisco | I guess it's my current Ubuntu install |
| 19:30.04 | libervisco | or X.. |
| 19:30.14 | Macrosoft | thats better than what im using |
| 19:30.37 | Macrosoft | 512MB on a P4 |
| 19:31.16 | libervisco | I might play with X a bit.. |
| 19:31.34 | Macrosoft | dont break it ;) |
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| 19:31.56 | libervisco | In the meantime if you've got recommendation of servers where most impressive action is... feel free to post. :) |
| 19:32.53 | Macrosoft | try badgerkings |
| 19:33.03 | Macrosoft | and mofo |
| 19:33.30 | whodaman- | definitely mofo |
| 19:34.08 | libervisco | also, btw, can you spectate in bzflag? |
| 19:34.29 | Macrosoft | yes, change your team setting to "observer" |
| 19:34.39 | libervisco | oh, great :) |
| 19:35.39 | Macrosoft | arrow keys to move, shift + up or down to change altitude, and ctrl + up or down to change the view angle |
| 19:36.02 | whodaman- | thats if your roaming however |
| 19:36.13 | whodaman- | press F7 i think to roam |
| 19:36.18 | Macrosoft | F8 to switch |
| 19:36.39 | whodaman- | yea |
| 19:36.46 | libervisco | no mouse? |
| 19:36.56 | whodaman- | you have to set it up |
| 19:37.00 | Macrosoft | it will say "roaming" at the top of your screen, just keep pressing F8 until it says it |
| 19:37.08 | libervisco | alright |
| 19:38.29 | libervisco | Thanks guys. |
| 19:38.57 | whodaman- | just don't get addicted :P |
| 19:39.22 | Constitution | Tupone: ping |
| 19:39.31 | Tupone | Constitution: pong |
| 19:39.52 | Constitution | I know this isn't exactly your code, but I'm getting segfaults at bzfs.cxx:3974 (thief check stuff) |
| 19:40.05 | Tupone | I think it has been fixed |
| 19:40.07 | Tupone | no? |
| 19:40.12 | Tupone | I saw a commit |
| 19:40.23 | Constitution | hmm, let me check |
| 19:41.29 | Constitution | ah yes, looks like it was |
| 19:41.33 | Tupone | hehe, need a rephrase. There is a double check for the same things |
| 19:41.43 | libervisco | whodaman-, you mean get addicted to being blasted into pieces? :P |
| 19:41.49 | libervisco | cause that's all I'm doing in there :D |
| 19:42.01 | whodaman- | :D |
| 19:42.54 | libervisco | I was in just minutes ago and I had a score of like -40 |
| 19:43.16 | whodaman- | where are you playing? |
| 19:43.35 | libervisco | I picked some random server, can't remember it.. |
| 19:43.39 | libervisco | there's a lot of them |
| 19:43.51 | whodaman- | yea 27 pages aprox |
| 19:49.46 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r16005 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Rephrase the test of thief cheat detection |
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| 19:57.42 | Constitution | Tupone: so if I was getting that segfault last night, someone was cheating? |
| 19:58.03 | Constitution | and he/she would be kicked if the same thing happened again with the new code? |
| 19:58.21 | Pumpernickel | Hey ruskie, could you be a bit more verbose in your kick/warnings? :p |
| 19:58.50 | Tupone | Constitution: maybe a network lag too |
| 19:59.00 | Constitution | oh, I see, you removed the kick part |
| 19:59.19 | Constitution | yeah, it crashed several times last night... I think cheating was unlikely |
| 20:00.03 | Tupone | well, I didn't remove it, it was already removed with an if (0) |
| 20:00.30 | Tupone | Constitution: did you get a core dump of it? |
| 20:04.34 | ruskie | Pumpernickel, I warned you a few times |
| 20:04.44 | ruskie | even without the kicks |
| 20:05.36 | Pumpernickel | Err, yeah, 'loss' isn't very descriptive when I've been out of the game for a few years. |
| 20:06.58 | blast007 | Tupone: I had a coredump: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d7fdc905c |
| 20:07.06 | blast007 | that was before Thumper_'s fix |
| 20:07.31 | ruskie | Pumpernickel, well all it takes is to ask but you were unresponsive |
| 20:07.59 | Pumpernickel | Yeah, I was trying to figure out the messaging system again. |
| 20:08.09 | Pumpernickel | It's been awhile. o.O |
| 20:09.07 | ruskie | it's only 1h btw... |
| 20:10.03 | ruskie | I only give more for repeat offenders, cheaters and generaly disruptive players :) |
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| 20:10.34 | Manu | Constitution: kick was disabled |
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| 20:11.16 | Manu | because innocents players can be kicked |
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| 20:11.56 | Pumpernickel | Cool - I'll see if I can solve the network issues by then. |
| 20:12.08 | Manu | blast007: I was in viper when a hang happened and no player had TH so is not related to this code :( |
| 20:12.20 | Manu | probably |
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| 20:17.58 | Macrosoft | gah! laggy psp online = confusion + random deaths |
| 20:21.16 | blast007 | Manu: right, they were probably cheating, and thus were trying to transfer a flag without TH |
| 20:21.29 | blast007 | that's what the check is for |
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| 20:21.39 | Constitution | Tupone: oh, I see |
| 20:21.49 | Manu | blast007: nope, all were trusted ;) only 4 players |
| 20:21.53 | Constitution | guess I was tired or something |
| 20:22.32 | Constitution | and yeah, my backtrace was just like blast007's |
| 20:25.51 | Tupone | blast007: was toFlag 0 ? |
| 20:27.38 | Manu | blast007: also can be another problen in viper ;) |
| 20:28.02 | Manu | problem* |
| 20:29.00 | Manu | blast007: I also checked the server with a modified client to cheat.. and no hang |
| 20:29.09 | blast007 | k |
| 20:29.40 | Manu | blast007: I usually like to check the anticheats ;) |
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| 20:31.36 | trac | hey |
| 20:32.10 | trac | Might anybody explain me how to use / start bzrobots from 2.1.X? |
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| 20:36.13 | a_meteorite | trac: I'd ask Epyon |
| 20:36.41 | blast007 | wasn't that daxxar's project? |
| 20:36.49 | a_meteorite | oh, oops |
| 20:36.50 | blast007 | Epyon did bzwgen |
| 20:36.53 | a_meteorite | mixed them up, yeah, daxxar |
| 20:37.05 | trac | does it work already? |
| 20:37.12 | trac | i dont know how to start it |
| 20:37.17 | jorgenpt | I'm the author, yes. |
| 20:37.21 | jorgenpt | What's your status? |
| 20:37.27 | jorgenpt | Does it compile? What OS? |
| 20:37.29 | trac | but everytime i try with a script , it just says: connection closed |
| 20:37.36 | trac | it does ^^ |
| 20:37.39 | jorgenpt | Checked backend.log and frontend.log`? |
| 20:37.42 | trac | but it does not really work |
| 20:37.58 | trac | ahhh frontend.log... wait a second ^^ |
| 20:38.17 | trac | i see... |
| 20:38.23 | jorgenpt | If there's nothing interesting in the logs, you're probably getting a segfault. Try running it in gdb then. |
| 20:38.29 | trac | it says it could not find a suitable script loader |
| 20:38.43 | jorgenpt | You're running a py or a so? |
| 20:38.44 | trac | what kind of script does it expect? |
| 20:38.54 | trac | my start command was: |
| 20:39.04 | trac | ./bzrobots ../../bots/python/StalkBot.py |
| 20:39.08 | trac | is this correct? |
| 20:39.45 | jorgenpt | Let me check, JeffM has done some reorganizing. |
| 20:40.25 | JeffM | havent touched it in weeks and weeks |
| 20:40.34 | jorgenpt | Neither have I, sadly :-/ |
| 20:40.42 | trac | ;) |
| 20:40.54 | trac | and i havent touched bzflag code for about a year ^^ |
| 20:42.11 | jorgenpt | Yes, it seems to be the correct syntax. |
| 20:42.16 | jorgenpt | Are you compiling with python support? |
| 20:42.34 | jorgenpt | --enable-bzrobots-python |
| 20:42.45 | trac | i guess the answer is no, since i havent explicitly said so :( |
| 20:42.53 | trac | is it default? |
| 20:42.57 | jorgenpt | No |
| 20:43.06 | trac | ok, that might explain it :) |
| 20:44.06 | trac | is there any documentation yet? |
| 20:44.23 | trac | i have searched for one, but couldnt find it :( |
| 20:44.29 | jorgenpt | It should probably check for python, and if you've used --enable-bzrobots-python it should fail if it doesn't find it, but if you didn't specify --enable-bzrobots-python - it should just disable it. |
| 20:44.43 | jorgenpt | (but I'm not very good at all that autoconf stuff) |
| 20:44.49 | jorgenpt | No, sorry, no "decent" docs yet. |
| 20:45.19 | trac | ok, i think i know the problem now :) |
| 20:45.20 | jorgenpt | The Wiki has a project page, but it isn't reliable or even up to date. |
| 20:45.28 | trac | i see |
| 20:45.29 | Constitution | http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZRobots |
| 20:45.37 | jorgenpt | The best documentation you'll find is the source and the example bots |
| 20:45.43 | trac | i even saw a university page about bzrobots with some kind of tutorial |
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| 20:45.55 | trac | but it is outdated too |
| 20:46.21 | jorgenpt | Well, that's for the 2.0 bzrobots |
| 20:46.33 | jorgenpt | AFAIK it's up-to-date for that, amcnabb wrote the 2.0 bzrobots |
| 20:46.44 | trac | ahhh i see ^^ |
| 20:46.56 | jorgenpt | But my bzrobots is *very* different, and amcnabb has had little to do with the shaping & development of it |
| 20:47.01 | jorgenpt | (it was my gsoc project) |
| 20:47.27 | jorgenpt | Sadly, I'm very preoccupied with RL (school, work, etc), so I haven't been able to do the polishing and work that bzrobots deserves. :S |
| 20:47.55 | jorgenpt | Recently quit a course, and I'm still busy :) |
| 20:47.56 | trac | hehe, i see ur point ^^ |
| 20:48.05 | JeffM | ur? |
| 20:48.08 | JeffM | who is ur? |
| 20:48.12 | JeffM | the mooninite? |
| 20:48.13 | trac | *your |
| 20:48.17 | JeffM | there ya go ;) |
| 20:48.36 | trac | gosh, spelling is soo slow ... i need this abbrivation stuff ^^ |
| 20:49.05 | jorgenpt | But if you're interested, I'll try to reply to your questions as soon as I can :-) |
| 20:49.48 | trac | thx, actually i just liked to see the current status of bzflag and recognized this bzrobots binary |
| 20:50.00 | JeffM | it also dosn't hurt to try and ask other devs, cus we should know it as well |
| 20:50.06 | JeffM | and if we don't, we should go learn it |
| 20:50.15 | JeffM | low bus factor sucks |
| 20:50.42 | jorgenpt | 'bus factor'? |
| 20:51.08 | JeffM | number of people who have to be hit by a bus to make you screwed with regards to a section of code or a proejct. |
| 20:51.31 | jorgenpt | Ah. Yes. :S |
| 20:51.50 | JeffM | we are at bus factor 0 right now for some sections, it's not good |
| 20:51.56 | JeffM | or maybe 0.5 |
| 20:52.21 | jorgenpt | Haha, you're already screwed? ;P |
| 20:52.23 | jorgenpt | What parts? |
| 20:52.32 | JeffM | octree |
| 20:52.35 | JeffM | rendering |
| 20:52.35 | jorgenpt | s/you're/we're/ |
| 20:52.37 | JeffM | that kinda stuff |
| 20:52.38 | JeffM | ARE |
| 20:52.40 | JeffM | not were |
| 20:52.40 | jorgenpt | Ok |
| 20:52.45 | jorgenpt | Huh? |
| 20:52.46 | JeffM | a few of us get parts of it |
| 20:52.49 | jorgenpt | we're - we are. |
| 20:52.52 | JeffM | but noone understands it all |
| 20:53.03 | JeffM | not like the author did |
| 20:53.22 | JeffM | there are no less then 2, maybe 3 rendering systems in the code right now |
| 20:53.46 | trac | choice is good *sry* |
| 20:53.59 | JeffM | they don't do the same thing |
| 20:54.04 | JeffM | one renders the buildings |
| 20:54.09 | JeffM | one renders the effects, etc.. |
| 20:54.42 | JeffM | so it's more an issue of code complexity, then "choice" |
| 20:56.07 | trac | sry, just wanted to make a bad joke ^^ i knew what u mean. |
| 20:58.34 | JeffM | other then winny's issue has anyone else had any problems with the 2.0.10rc2? |
| 20:58.57 | Winny | JeffM: sorry, I havent had much time to test |
| 20:59.02 | JeffM | I know |
| 20:59.02 | ruskie | not me... |
| 20:59.10 | JeffM | when you do you do. |
| 20:59.27 | ruskie | even the crash if I wanted to reconnect that occured with earlier versions is gone... |
| 20:59.30 | JeffM | so far I think the issue is just on your system, so I'm nto too woried. |
| 21:00.07 | JeffM | if we had to, we could find out what the deal is for you and make special for you after release. |
| 21:00.29 | JeffM | hopefully the loging version will show how far it gets into the name lookup stuff. |
| 21:05.34 | trac | me again... it says "ValueError: Empty module name" now |
| 21:05.53 | trac | Frontend disconnected / failed! (Could not load script: Could not load module from '../../bots/python/SimpleRobot') |
| 21:08.50 | trac | is there anything i have to add to the command line? or is there any script that is known to work? |
| 21:12.12 | JeffM | did you sacrifice the chicken properly/ |
| 21:12.31 | trac | gosh, i KNEW i forgot something |
| 21:12.32 | trac | brb |
| 21:12.58 | trac | yep |
| 21:13.04 | JeffM | properly |
| 21:13.08 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:13.13 | trac | should i do it twice? |
| 21:13.29 | trac | you should note this in the README or in BUGS ^^ |
| 21:13.32 | ruskie | you forgot all the incantations and other stuff :) |
| 21:14.39 | trac | Anybody an idea? (real life, please ^^) |
| 21:14.48 | JeffM | I |
| 21:14.55 | trac | so? |
| 21:14.57 | JeffM | I'm no help, it dosnt' work on windows at all |
| 21:15.07 | trac | i am under linux |
| 21:15.13 | trac | archlinux |
| 21:15.20 | trac | newest packages of all kind ... |
| 21:15.28 | trac | too new? ^^ |
| 21:15.37 | ruskie | maybe python is to new... |
| 21:16.02 | trac | [trac@venus epan]$ python -V |
| 21:16.02 | trac | Python 2.5.1 |
| 21:16.52 | trac | swig -version |
| 21:16.52 | trac | SWIG Version 1.3.31 |
| 21:16.52 | trac | Compiled with g++ [i686-pc-linux-gnu] |
| 21:16.52 | trac | Please see http://www.swig.org for reporting bugs and further information |
| 21:17.00 | trac | this is the other dependency |
| 21:17.15 | ruskie | that would be a possibility as well |
| 21:19.50 | jorgenpt | hrm |
| 21:19.55 | jorgenpt | Doesn't even COMPILE here |
| 21:19.55 | jorgenpt | make[3]: Entering directory `/home/daxxar/projects/bzflag/src/bzrobots' |
| 21:19.56 | jorgenpt | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `TestRobot.cxx', needed by `TestRobot.lo'. Stop. |
| 21:20.40 | trac | seems like i am producing problems, just say when i should go ^^ |
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| 21:24.52 | Manu | hi trepan, long time no see :) |
| 21:25.04 | trepan | hello |
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| 21:32.11 | jorgenpt | trepan: Hm, try copying StalkBot.py to the bzrobots dir? |
| 21:32.27 | blast007 | s/trepan/trac/ |
| 21:32.39 | trac | k ^^ |
| 21:32.46 | jorgenpt | jorgenpt: Thanks. :-) |
| 21:32.47 | jorgenpt | Err. |
| 21:32.51 | jorgenpt | blast007: Thanks. :-) |
| 21:33.04 | blast007 | lol, tab issues? ;) |
| 21:33.08 | jorgenpt | Yes. :p |
| 21:33.17 | jorgenpt | trac: So, what command are you running? |
| 21:34.10 | trac | i am running: ./bzrobots StalkBot.py |
| 21:34.19 | trac | and this produces a new error message |
| 21:34.25 | trac | with a complete traceback |
| 21:34.38 | trac | ImportError: No module named bzrobot_pyext |
| 21:34.44 | trac | seems to be the real error |
| 21:34.56 | jorgenpt | Yes, try copying bzrobots_pyext.so from .libs/ to your dir |
| 21:36.06 | trac | yay |
| 21:36.10 | trac | i think it starts ^^ |
| 21:36.42 | trac | just one question: why does it want to have all things in the same directory? |
| 21:38.28 | jorgenpt | Well, I'm going to fix that. |
| 21:38.40 | trac | ok, it works now :) |
| 21:38.42 | jorgenpt | It's because of how modules are handled in Python, and the way I handle loading of bots. |
| 21:39.11 | trac | i see... i dont know python but sounds like another complicated language ^^ |
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| 21:39.25 | CBG | bzfs should allow you to use mutiple global ban lists |
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| 21:41.23 | jorgenpt | nah ;) |
| 21:41.27 | jorgenpt | I don't know python either |
| 21:41.33 | jorgenpt | But it's not very complicated. |
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| 21:43.39 | fooey | when I try to start a server it says "Failed (exit = 2)", what could that be about? |
| 21:44.09 | Constitution | is that from the Start Server menu? |
| 21:44.23 | fooey | yup |
| 21:45.38 | CBG | it probably means it didn't work. ;) |
| 21:46.00 | fooey | I guessed that too :) |
| 21:47.18 | blast007 | fooey: linux? |
| 21:47.26 | fooey | blast007, yup |
| 21:47.49 | blast007 | some distros put the server in a separate package |
| 21:48.00 | blast007 | go to a terminal, and type 'bzfs' |
| 21:48.02 | blast007 | see if that works |
| 21:48.35 | fooey | ah, it wasn't installed |
| 21:48.38 | fooey | thanks blast007 |
| 21:48.42 | blast007 | np |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r16006 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (PythonLoader.cxx PythonLoader.h): |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: Added 'addSysPath' to PythonLoader (adds a path to sys.path). |
| 21:48.46 | CIA-25 | BZFlag: PythonLoader now allows bots not in cwd; ./bzrobots ../bots/python/StalkBot.py should work :-) |
| 21:48.47 | blast007 | the menu is still iffy though |
| 21:49.02 | fooey | "iffy"? |
| 21:49.05 | blast007 | doesn't always cooperate |
| 21:49.38 | blast007 | if you have issues with it still, you might have to just run bzfs from the command prompt |
| 21:49.48 | blast007 | bzfs is the server binary |
| 21:50.08 | fooey | I'll give it a try and see if it works |
| 21:50.16 | blast007 | k |
| 21:50.43 | fooey | it worked! |
| 21:50.53 | blast007 | cool :) |
| 21:50.53 | fooey | thanks blast007! :) |
| 21:50.55 | blast007 | np |
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| 21:53.53 | fooey | I started bzflag with -solo to get a few bots to play against but once they joined the server they signed off right away, any ideas? |
| 21:54.10 | fooey | I just need something to hone my skills against |
| 21:54.22 | trac | rofl |
| 21:55.06 | a_temp_dist | one of the server variables is _disableBots - make sure that is set to 0 (false) |
| 21:55.06 | blast007 | hmm |
| 21:55.07 | trac | does the server allow bots? |
| 21:55.30 | blast007 | he's doing a local server, from the Start Server menu |
| 21:55.39 | fooey | I'm using the start server menu, let me check |
| 21:55.44 | blast007 | fooey: did you make sure to connect to 'localhost' on port 5154? |
| 21:56.17 | blast007 | there isn't an option to disable bots in that menu |
| 21:56.44 | fooey | blast007, yes, the server and port are set correctly |
| 21:57.00 | trac | How does the server differ between bot and client? i mean the client side bots? |
| 21:57.04 | fooey | so how do I check for the _disableBots variable? |
| 21:57.46 | blast007 | fooey: send /set as chat while on the server, then scroll through the list |
| 21:59.09 | trac | I just ask, because in 2.1.X it does not show up client bots and i wonder , how he could recognize the second tank? |
| 22:00.22 | fooey | nope, it's set to 0, but they joined correctly this time |
| 22:00.51 | fooey | thanks all! :) |
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| 23:04.35 | JeffM | DTRemenak: we talked about the order of events going logic -> state -> notification -> network right? |
| 23:04.41 | JeffM | or was it network -> notification? |
| 23:05.36 | CBG | definitely n -> n |
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| 23:28.25 | Winny | JeffM: can I help? |
| 23:28.30 | JeffM | no |
| 23:28.33 | Winny | :( |
| 23:28.37 | JeffM | bats are single user devices |
| 23:28.42 | Winny | ~bonk charg |
| 23:28.42 | ibot | ACTION bonks charg over the head |
| 23:28.43 | JeffM | you'd need a multibat |
| 23:33.27 | blast007 | JeffM: I sent him a PM asking him to put the source in |
| 23:33.42 | JeffM | O |
| 23:33.47 | JeffM | I've had MANY |
| 23:33.54 | JeffM | with him about the same subject |
| 23:34.01 | JeffM | this is his 4th attempt |
| 23:34.03 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:34.16 | JeffM | I've asked him to send me the file first to test it |
| 23:34.26 | JeffM | he not only needs the source, but a license |
| 23:34.55 | JeffM | it's not |
| 23:34.58 | Winny | oh |
| 23:35.01 | a_meteorite | Well, considering his past performance... |
| 23:35.01 | JeffM | he's just a kid and has no clue what he's doing |
| 23:35.08 | JeffM | what do you mean? |
| 23:35.15 | Winny | Its like winny minus two years :O |
| 23:35.21 | CBG | JeffM: It aint worth you even worrying about. It has to be the most usless piece of software ever. |
| 23:35.26 | blast007 | a_meteorite: I'll explain ;) |
| 23:36.01 | JeffM | CBG: I also mentioned that |
| 23:36.12 | CBG | :) |
| 23:37.23 | Winny | should make a movie about forum admins' job's, they could call it "superfun" ;P |
| 23:38.14 | JeffM | it's not that hard |
| 23:38.41 | a_meteorite | Willing to trade jobs. ;) |
| 23:38.50 | Winny | heh |
| 23:38.53 | JeffM | you have a job? |
| 23:39.05 | a_temp_dist | burn |
| 23:39.15 | Winny | yeah, he is a manager of a chinese toy factory |
| 23:39.35 | CBG | I'll switch with you, JeffM. Hope you like fish. |
| 23:39.35 | a_meteorite | I had a 100 hour contract with a local computer store over the summer. Awaiting my next job from my PIC (Private Industry Council) teacher. |
| 23:39.47 | JeffM | bzflag is not my job |
| 23:39.55 | CBG | I know it's not. ;) |
| 23:40.24 | CBG | As long as your employer notices I'm not you and, thus, might be asking more questions, I'd prefer it to what I do now. |
| 23:40.41 | a_meteorite | The best perk of being a BZFlag admin is the n00bs are tasty with catsup. |
| 23:40.45 | Winny | "<blast007>whodaman-: did you hear? a_meteorite's chinese child labor had their rations increased to three spoonfuls of butter for lunch!!" |
| 23:40.58 | JeffM | and that is the xact reason you'll never be a bzbb admin |
| 23:41.00 | a_meteorite | Winny: and damn, it cost me a bundle too! |
| 23:41.05 | Winny | its writen down, there for its true! |
| 23:41.09 | blast007 | a_meteorite: the butter? |
| 23:41.12 | a_meteorite | yeah. |
| 23:41.21 | CBG | JeffM: I don't see how it was ever a possibility anyway. ;) |
| 23:41.23 | a_meteorite | JeffM: Kidding... you guys use that expression a lot |
| 23:41.34 | Winny | god, I have craig ferguson references coming out of my butt |
| 23:41.41 | a_meteorite | Winny: he's awesome, so that's OK |
| 23:41.42 | whodaman- | Winny, lol this sound familiar |
| 23:41.43 | JeffM | no, others do about us and are mistaken, cus they only see the bad. |
| 23:41.46 | CBG | Backtrack, a_meteorite, backtrack. |
| 23:42.02 | a_meteorite | "it's on the internet so it MUST be true!" |
| 23:42.12 | JeffM | if I wanted to admin threaten people, I'd have hooked up the sounds from sinstar into bzflag LONG ago |
| 23:42.31 | a_meteorite | JeffM: I was kidding, anyhow. |
| 23:43.25 | a_meteorite | Sinstar? Wow, don't google that... |
| 23:44.11 | JeffM | ahh, sinistar |
| 23:44.12 | CBG | check out the images! :O |
| 23:44.23 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:44.53 | Winny | a_meteorite: you're just a barrel full of common-sense! |
| 23:45.02 | a_meteorite | Winny: Yup! |
| 23:53.03 | Winny | It's never even been here |
| 23:55.06 | Macrosoft | i heard halo 3 online is stalling networks at universities worldwide :D |
| 23:55.13 | JeffM | no. |
| 23:55.18 | JeffM | you just read slashdot |
| 23:55.37 | Macrosoft | apparently, you do too |
| 23:55.37 | JeffM | same as everyone else |
| 23:56.14 | Winny | digg is better |
| 23:56.27 | Winny | cause its all IPHONEUBUNTUIPODAPPLESTEVEJOIBSJESUSPHONE |
| 23:56.48 | Thumper_ | ~blast007++ |
| 23:57.10 | Macrosoft | i know someone who reserved the game, havent seen him since the release. he probably hasnt slept or left his room since |
| 23:57.32 | JeffM | the game isn't that long |
| 23:57.46 | Winny | on the day of release, ~20% of the school was away. I shit you not. |
| 23:57.54 | JeffM | Winny: language please |
| 23:57.59 | Winny | whoops |
| 23:58.19 | Macrosoft | he defecates you not!! |
| 23:58.24 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 23:58.26 | JeffM | enough of that |