| 00:01.47 | TD-Linux | ouch, this could be a problem, every tree is different it seems o.O |
| 00:02.25 | JeffM | Epyon, that's untested |
| 00:02.33 | JeffM | I wrote that just now here on the floor |
| 00:03.07 | Epyon | yep, and doesn't work xP |
| 00:03.22 | JeffM | fix it :) |
| 00:03.28 | JeffM | it's a lot simpler now |
| 00:03.32 | JeffM | look at the set method |
| 00:03.51 | Epyon | Actually you broke it. |
| 00:03.57 | Epyon | Now it doesn't work at all. |
| 00:04.10 | JeffM | yeah I rewrote it |
| 00:04.23 | JeffM | step thru the set method |
| 00:04.27 | JeffM | probalby a simple typo |
| 00:07.14 | Epyon | I need to do the bases now. For me it's not so important to commit some of my last hours on it :/ |
| 00:07.50 | JeffM | k |
| 00:07.56 | JeffM | I can debug it later |
| 00:08.01 | JeffM | by tomroow at least |
| 00:08.04 | JeffM | I'm not at home now |
| 00:08.07 | Epyon | kk |
| 00:08.42 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r15182 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ (Makefile.common configure.ac): -Wno-deprecated is C++ only . Fixed |
| 00:09.04 | tupone | bryjen, thanks. I think it should work now |
| 00:09.08 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15183 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.cpp: adjust the chunk size, not the position |
| 00:09.15 | Winny | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/663923 <--- the tree (TD made me do it) |
| 00:09.22 | Winny | Epyon: ^ |
| 00:10.03 | Winny | actually, ignore that, Epyon |
| 00:10.10 | Winny | some of my code made itin there too... one sec |
| 00:10.28 | Epyon | Winny, I'd need the materials and textures too. |
| 00:10.37 | Winny | yeah... one sec |
| 00:11.54 | TD-Linux | Winny, we could use the secondary source if necessary |
| 00:12.45 | Winny | "secondary source"? |
| 00:13.26 | blast007 | the dark side of the force, oh wait, you said source |
| 00:13.35 | Epyon | WOAH something's wrong with svn! |
| 00:13.45 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15184 10/trunk/bzwgen/GridMap.cxx: Increased allocation to prevent some random overflow |
| 00:13.52 | Epyon | Woah, all ok now. |
| 00:14.02 | Epyon | But seems as CIA-23 died again :) |
| 00:14.10 | TD-Linux | Winny, got it, or should I put up the post link? |
| 00:14.45 | TD-Linux | aah that's the other one :P |
| 00:15.00 | TD-Linux | I can only ever remember this one |
| 00:15.19 | bryjen | you're welcome and thank you, tupone. builds OK. |
| 00:15.38 | Winny | I wonder if I did it right this time...http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/663929 |
| 00:15.46 | tupone | bryjen, what about that SDL fault I saw in pastebin? |
| 00:17.21 | TD-Linux | you probably don't need JumpPad4 |
| 00:17.26 | TD-Linux | but I bet it's right, other than that. |
| 00:17.49 | bryjen | i think it's the "play sound" message Jeff added that never worked quite right |
| 00:18.15 | tupone | ahh, ok. I should not care, then |
| 00:18.39 | Winny | TD-Linux: it seems part of his tree, although I probably renamed it |
| 00:19.17 | tupone | bryjen, but why you need c-ares in the bzflag tree? you don't have a system installed one? |
| 00:19.36 | TD-Linux | Epyon, not that the tree probably isn't normalized to be 1 unit high, but I hope you can compensate for that with some hax |
| 00:21.18 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15185 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (GridGenerator.cxx GridGenerator.h): simple plotRoad implemented. Will need to be better, but for now it'll suffice. |
| 00:22.13 | bryjen | not on Slackware. i was building my own curl+ares, but when i updated to slack 12 it conflicted somehow, and i have not tried to fix that |
| 00:23.19 | tupone | ahh, ok, dunno the state of slackware :/ |
| 00:27.30 | Epyon | Wow |
| 00:27.46 | Epyon | bzwgen surprised me o.O |
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| 00:28.09 | TD-Linux | in a good or bad way? |
| 00:28.18 | Epyon | hmm |
| 00:28.21 | Epyon | hard to say :P |
| 00:28.26 | TD-Linux | screenie |
| 00:28.29 | Epyon | I'll show you |
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| 00:28.43 | Epyon | http://bzflag.chaosforge.org/screenshots/bzfi0039.png |
| 00:29.51 | TD-Linux | interesting. |
| 00:29.58 | TD-Linux | can you add air conditioners to roofs? |
| 00:30.13 | TD-Linux | just add a shiny gray randomly shaped box occasionally |
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| 00:35.15 | I_Died_Once | Manu - or any other Viper's admin on ???? |
| 00:35.23 | I_Died_Once | you got a cheat on the Two Castles |
| 00:35.46 | a_meteorite | coming I_Died_Once |
| 00:35.53 | I_Died_Once | instant spawn, fast turn cheat, wings/turn in air |
| 00:35.58 | a_meteorite | I_Died_Once: callsign? |
| 00:36.04 | I_Died_Once | its a player 'iNULL' |
| 00:36.06 | I_Died_Once | iNULL |
| 00:36.16 | KTL | Epyon, i know 2 people who had this as thesis: http://t504.blogspot.com/ |
| 00:36.29 | I_Died_Once | ...you aint no Viper's Two Castles admin |
| 00:36.31 | KTL | Epyon, they generated cities |
| 00:36.35 | a_meteorite | yeah, I am |
| 00:37.07 | tupone | a_meteorite, which useful flags you were referring? |
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| 00:37.21 | a_meteorite | tupone: to optimize |
| 00:37.46 | I_Died_Once | oh well |
| 00:37.49 | I_Died_Once | he left |
| 00:37.54 | I_Died_Once | figures |
| 00:37.59 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 00:38.10 | I_Died_Once | I noticed him out my window, joined as obs and confirmed |
| 00:38.26 | tupone | you mean fastmath? |
| 00:38.32 | I_Died_Once | fast turn, instant spawn, fast motion, wings at all time... |
| 00:39.14 | tupone | my choise is to leave all the non-needed flag out when you specify CFLAGS by hands |
| 00:39.15 | a_meteorite | going to all the top servers |
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| 00:43.21 | KTL | Epyon, this is the (dutch) blog from a thesis about generating cities: http://t504.blogspot.com/ |
| 00:45.02 | KTL | and their paper, also in dutch, but nice pics: http://users.skynet.be/FallenAngel/thesis/FinaleTekst.pdf |
| 00:45.28 | Epyon | KTL, there's one difference beteen mine and all of those :P |
| 00:45.44 | KTL | only one? :) |
| 00:45.54 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/src/commandArgs.cpp: cleanups for new set parser |
| 00:45.54 | Epyon | one major :P |
| 00:45.58 | JeffM | Epyon, when you do an exists item, do you do exists("-h") or ("h") ? |
| 00:46.25 | Epyon | exist("h") just like GetArgI("h") |
| 00:47.03 | JeffM | good |
| 00:47.29 | JeffM | I assume your app dosn't have a VC7.1 project? |
| 00:48.08 | Epyon | it's got an sln only |
| 00:48.21 | JeffM | it has a vcproj too |
| 00:48.24 | JeffM | but it's for vc8 right? |
| 00:48.27 | JeffM | not 7.1 |
| 00:48.35 | Epyon | no idea :/ |
| 00:48.44 | JeffM | you use 8 right? |
| 00:48.54 | Epyon | I use VCEE2005 |
| 00:48.57 | JeffM | that is 8 |
| 00:49.04 | JeffM | and there is only one solution right? |
| 00:49.06 | Epyon | yes then |
| 00:49.08 | Epyon | right |
| 00:49.13 | Epyon | Why do you ask all that? |
| 00:49.17 | A_Heart_Attack | haha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ARyAb_1Bs |
| 00:49.25 | JeffM | and it dosn't tell you that it has to upgrade it each time right? |
| 00:49.35 | Epyon | Nope :/ |
| 00:49.35 | JeffM | Epyon, to see if I can debug it here |
| 00:49.44 | JeffM | then it's a VC8 project |
| 00:49.47 | JeffM | and I can't open it |
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| 00:59.16 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15186 10/trunk/bzwgen/BaseZone.h: Introducing BaseZone |
| 00:59.38 | Epyon | what to pass to bzfs to have bases show up? |
| 01:00.59 | bryjen | -c to set ctf game type |
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| 01:03.59 | Epyon | class BaseZone : public Zone { |
| 01:03.59 | Epyon | protected: |
| 01:03.59 | Epyon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.14 | Epyon | the color value will be shared among all BaseZone's right> |
| 01:04.15 | Epyon | ? |
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| 01:14.14 | Epyon | WTF? |
| 01:14.29 | Epyon | base was not defined for Blue Team |
| 01:14.29 | Epyon | ERROR: A world was not specified |
| 01:15.41 | L4m3r | yeah, it's retarded like that |
| 01:15.57 | L4m3r | do you not want a base for blue team? |
| 01:16.02 | Epyon | how can I run for two teams? |
| 01:16.20 | L4m3r | make sure -mp doesn't give any slots for blue players |
| 01:16.34 | L4m3r | -mp 0,5,5,0,0,5 |
| 01:17.30 | L4m3r | (assming you want red vs green... since it complained about the blue base) |
| 01:17.34 | Epyon | -mp doesnt work here L. |
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| 01:19.05 | Epyon | L4m3r, this "bzfs -world test.bzw -j -c -mp 0,5,5,0,5" gives me the options list :? |
| 01:19.31 | Epyon | L4m3r? |
| 01:19.52 | brad | you need 5 numbers for -mp |
| 01:19.59 | brad | er, 6 |
| 01:20.01 | brad | ~mp |
| 01:20.02 | ibot | i heard mp is Northern Mariana Islands |
| 01:20.17 | brad | rogue, red, green, blue, purple, observer |
| 01:20.17 | L4m3r | you left out a 0, Epyon |
| 01:20.31 | Epyon | Ah, ok |
| 01:20.36 | L4m3r | 0,5,5,0,0,5 not 0,5,5,0,5 ;) |
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| 01:22.06 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/src/commandArgs.cpp: commands are stored in all caps, so may as well set the name in all caps |
| 01:22.08 | JeffM | Epyon, that should work for you |
| 01:22.32 | Epyon | kk, as soon as I finish the bases |
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| 01:26.11 | The_Vaxorcist | Is there a reason for having 2 serverlists in the servermenu class? It seems like overkill just for filtering. |
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| 01:31.03 | JeffM | probably cus the author who did that feature found it easier to do it that way |
| 01:31.42 | The_Vaxorcist | makes sense, in a weird sort of way |
| 01:32.15 | The_Vaxorcist | I was just thinking that it could be simplified some |
| 01:34.29 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15187 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (6 files): Bases supported! Use the --bases (-b) switch (values 2 and 4) |
| 01:35.22 | Macrosoft | i hear the code for drawInfo was never completed. just wondering what parts of it arent complete, anyone know? |
| 01:36.46 | L4m3r | most of it? |
| 01:36.48 | a_meteorite | more like no one actually knows how drawInfo works |
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| 01:37.47 | a_meteorite | except trepan .. |
| 01:38.20 | Macrosoft | also, i found a neat little trick: using angvel <number> makes the mesh completely transparent, without needing to apply a transparent material or set alpha to 0 |
| 01:38.24 | L4m3r | it's still quite incomplete |
| 01:38.35 | a_meteorite | hack |
| 01:38.48 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: cool hack, though |
| 01:39.01 | a_meteorite | it's better to set the alpha to 0 |
| 01:39.32 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: angvel might not lower your framerate as much as alpha 0 |
| 01:39.50 | a_meteorite | it's definitely not intended for it, thus a hack |
| 01:40.20 | L4m3r | alpha 0 should not lower your framerate at all |
| 01:40.44 | Macrosoft | its not complete, so it might not do what its designed to anyway |
| 01:40.53 | a_meteorite | which could change |
| 01:41.19 | Macrosoft | a_meteorite: how? i thought trepan stopped working on the project |
| 01:41.35 | a_meteorite | that doesn't stop someone else from learning how his stuff works and picking it up |
| 01:42.02 | L4m3r | it's VERY incomplete. afaik all it can do is rotate objects around a point. |
| 01:42.07 | Epyon | JeffM, the new commandArgs works nicely with single -h command. Too bad it doesn't work with arguments anymore :P |
| 01:42.45 | Macrosoft | L4m3r: no tristrips? i thought i could make use of them |
| 01:43.06 | L4m3r | oh, yes, theoretically |
| 01:43.13 | L4m3r | not sure if I ever saw a demo of that though |
| 01:44.11 | trepan | drawInfo is fairly complete, it does what it's supposed to |
| 01:44.19 | trepan | what's lacking are the associated dev tools |
| 01:44.27 | trepan | (i never released anything for that) |
| 01:44.54 | Macrosoft | trepan: is there another param that has to be used with angvel to make it work? |
| 01:45.18 | trepan | the LOD'ing was the primary goal, the dynamic rotation was a cheesy addition |
| 01:46.41 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/gears.bzw -- might still work |
| 01:47.21 | trepan | (doesn't appear to have any of the uncommitted keywords in it) |
| 01:48.07 | trepan | heh, still has the linear 'corner' lists though |
| 01:49.39 | JeffM | Epyon, k, I'll test it |
| 01:49.51 | L4m3r | JeffM, libIRC's eIRCChannelPartEvent seems to cause a segfault |
| 01:50.05 | JeffM | umm ok |
| 01:50.07 | L4m3r | and eIRCChannelJoinEvent doesn't seem to do anything |
| 01:50.13 | L4m3r | not a big deal, just a note |
| 01:50.32 | L4m3r | changing the former to eIRCUserPartEvent fixed it |
| 01:52.19 | JeffM | Epyon, there |
| 01:52.45 | JeffM | L4m3r do you know what the bug is? |
| 01:52.51 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/src/commandArgs.cpp: keys are not params |
| 01:52.53 | L4m3r | JeffM: no idea |
| 01:53.04 | JeffM | L4m3r, I can check it out tomorow |
| 01:53.10 | JeffM | Epyon, that last commit should do ya |
| 01:53.15 | L4m3r | If you don't feel like dealing with it, I can play with it on tuesday or later ;) |
| 01:57.25 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15188 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/test.set: That roof was supposed to be INset |
| 01:59.28 | JeffM | I don't mind, I'm just not home now |
| 02:02.04 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03l4m3rthanyou * r15189 10/branches/gsoc_irc/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx ircControl.cxx ircControl.h): Fixed IRC chat relay, and implemented join/part relays in both direction. IRC integration is pretty much there, at this point. |
| 02:02.58 | L4m3r | I guess that will do for tomorrow |
| 02:03.15 | Epyon | L4m3r, IRC integration? |
| 02:03.24 | Epyon | When will there be a live presentation? :D |
| 02:03.25 | L4m3r | Epyon: for bzfs |
| 02:03.40 | L4m3r | One has been going on in #bzchat all day :P |
| 02:04.07 | Epyon | where? |
| 02:04.25 | L4m3r | it's over, now- I had been testing it on and off |
| 02:04.30 | Epyon | :( |
| 02:04.38 | L4m3r | basically me yapping to myself |
| 02:07.03 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15190 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (GridGenerator.cxx GridGenerator.h): 'Upgraded' the plotRoad method. |
| 02:28.23 | Epyon | Okay, new layout generator on the run... |
| 03:09.13 | Epyon | STUUUUUUUPID |
| 03:09.37 | Epyon | Is there anyone still not asleep who can laugh on how stupid I am? -_- |
| 03:10.05 | Epyon | I'll give a screenie in return? :P |
| 03:13.14 | bryjen | i won't laugh at you, but i may laugh with you :) |
| 03:14.12 | Epyon | int steps = int(max-min / step); <--- this was sitting in the code for a looong time causing segfaults -_- |
| 03:17.48 | a_meteorite | hah.. |
| 03:18.14 | Epyon | Operator priority :/ |
| 03:18.37 | Epyon | This was supposed to give the amount of steps between min and max... |
| 03:19.03 | Epyon | But it GOT READ (max - (min / step) ) instead of (max-min)/step ;( |
| 03:19.19 | bryjen | aah |
| 03:19.22 | Epyon | So old and doesn't remember his basic maths ;( |
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| 03:57.36 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15191 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:57.36 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: FINALLY! After 3 hours of debugging a new and upgraded subdivision algorithm has |
| 03:57.36 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: been implemented. This one, although still being axis-aligned places roads |
| 03:57.36 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: really at random, and not in a chessboard fasion. At the same time a lot new |
| 03:57.36 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: options and debug messages have been added, and a critical bug in random funcs |
| 03:57.38 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: fixed. *sigh* I may drink my beer in peace now. |
| 03:59.00 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15192 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/test.set: Because of the bugfix skyscrapers became lower. I enhightened them a bit. |
| 04:01.02 | JeffM | Epyon, those fixed for the args work? |
| 04:01.22 | Epyon | JeffM, I'll see right now, I've been hunting stupid bugs up till now. |
| 04:01.37 | Epyon | And due to the commit rule, I work on one thing at a time. |
| 04:01.52 | JeffM | commit rule? |
| 04:03.13 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15193 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (GridGenerator.cxx GridGenerator.h bzwgen.cxx): --fullslice (-f) command line param added. |
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| 04:05.41 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15194 10/trunk/bzwgen/commandArgs.cxx: Fix of the commandArgs.cxx by JeffM (thanks!). -h option works now. |
| 04:05.45 | Epyon | All ok :) |
| 04:06.09 | JeffM | good |
| 04:06.29 | JeffM | it's hella shorter now too |
| 04:07.27 | Epyon | :) |
| 04:07.40 | Epyon | Aaah this been a helluva day :D |
| 04:08.14 | Epyon | I fixed to great buggy pieces of code xP |
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| 04:08.23 | Epyon | The zone reader and the zone subdivider :P |
| 04:11.25 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15195 10/trunk/bzwgen/BaseZone.h: be void to stop gcc complaining about no return |
| 04:11.31 | Epyon | Anyone care for a screenshot? |
| 04:11.49 | L4m3r | go for it |
| 04:12.31 | Epyon | bryjen, thanks :) |
| 04:14.20 | Epyon | http://bzflag.chaosforge.org/screenshots/bzfi0040.png <- as you see the subdivision now isn't made out of full length lines only |
| 04:14.44 | Epyon | (the bug with the road textures has been fixed) |
| 04:15.20 | Epyon | http://bzflag.chaosforge.org/screenshots/bzfi0042.png |
| 04:15.45 | Epyon | Also bases have been implemented (2 or 4), but I don't have a screenie here. |
| 04:17.40 | Epyon | Not to mention that you can change the output using options (finally :P) |
| 04:17.51 | L4m3r | Epyon, dunno if this is fixed already, but on constitution's test server, I get stuck when trying to drive off a curb into the street. |
| 04:18.04 | Epyon | curb? |
| 04:18.25 | L4m3r | like, off an empty lot |
| 04:18.35 | Epyon | Aaah, that was a looong time ago :P |
| 04:18.42 | L4m3r | mmk |
| 04:18.45 | Epyon | like two days ago, right? :P |
| 04:19.07 | L4m3r | the map reminds me of a level from Doom :P |
| 04:19.39 | Epyon | Oh yeah, I loved the music from that one (midi title "refueling base" xP) |
| 04:19.54 | Epyon | It reminds me of SimCity :P |
| 04:19.59 | L4m3r | there was a doom2 level that was a city, I think |
| 04:20.06 | Epyon | Yep :) |
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| 04:27.09 | Epyon | Constitution, ping? |
| 04:27.21 | Constitution | pong |
| 04:27.40 | Epyon | Constitution, I'd like to change the default name of the generated map. |
| 04:27.47 | Constitution | okay |
| 04:27.50 | Epyon | BTW, I have that command line :P |
| 04:28.00 | Epyon | And bases support :P |
| 04:28.03 | Constitution | ah, great |
| 04:28.43 | Epyon | What would be a good default name by the way? random.bzw, default.bzw, result.bzw? |
| 04:28.58 | Constitution | map.bzw |
| 04:29.02 | Epyon | Blog updated -> http://bzflag.chaosforge.org/ |
| 04:29.05 | Constitution | :-) |
| 04:29.06 | Epyon | Yep, good one. |
| 04:30.13 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15196 10/trunk/bzwgen/bzwgen.cxx: Default map name changed to map.bzw. (Constitution :P) |
| 04:30.29 | Constitution | lol |
| 04:31.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15197 10/trunk/bzwgen/TODO: Finished TODO items deleted. |
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| 04:37.10 | Epyon | School?? |
| 04:37.12 | Epyon | o.O |
| 04:39.41 | jude- | the university of arizona starts fall semester August 20th |
| 04:40.14 | Epyon | Should I have one too? |
| 04:40.14 | jude- | indeed |
| 04:40.20 | jude- | sure, why not :) |
| 04:40.49 | Epyon | jude-, you forgot to mention your breadgiver :P |
| 04:40.57 | L4m3r | jude-: dude... my vacation just started! :P |
| 04:41.16 | jude- | Epyon: AUTHORS files are for code authors :P |
| 04:41.42 | Epyon | jude-, where do we get to put the acknowledgements then? |
| 04:42.11 | jude- | wherever you want :) |
| 04:42.33 | Epyon | jude-, still if not Google you wouldn't write that code, would you :P |
| 04:42.41 | jude- | an "About" program feature, an easter egg, somewhere in the code comments, etc. |
| 04:42.57 | jude- | Epyon: but Google didn't contribute any code to the project |
| 04:43.03 | Epyon | I still think it belongs to Google. |
| 04:43.09 | jude- | nope |
| 04:43.11 | Epyon | bleagh |
| 04:43.12 | jude- | it belongs to Tim Riker |
| 04:43.17 | Epyon | not the code dammit. |
| 04:43.21 | jude- | he owns BZWB's copyright |
| 04:43.39 | jude- | Google comissioned me to create it for BZFlag |
| 04:43.51 | jude- | just like how Google commissioned you |
| 04:44.10 | Epyon | I meant "Google is still worth mentioning in AUTHORS file, because non-directly he sprung the projects creation" |
| 04:44.14 | Epyon | And funded it. |
| 04:44.19 | jude- | is Google an author? |
| 04:44.47 | jude- | while you're at it, you should list Bill Gates in YOUR AUTHORS file because he funded the OS on which you developed bzwgen |
| 04:44.53 | jude- | by that logic |
| 04:44.55 | AAA_awright | Google funded and sponsored it, The BZFlag team sponsored it, jude- is the sole author, Tim Riker owns the copyright. That should clear things up. |
| 04:45.07 | jude- | AAA_awright: thanks :) |
| 04:45.24 | Epyon | Okay, I'll make a separate CREDITS file :P |
| 04:45.29 | JeffM | you can mention google in an abbout file, if you wish, but they are not authors |
| 04:45.42 | jude- | Google will get mentioned in an "About" dialog when I get around to it |
| 04:45.44 | JeffM | google is simply one part of that apps history |
| 04:45.52 | JeffM | why? |
| 04:46.04 | jude- | just to mention that it was one of the GSoC 2007 projects |
| 04:46.24 | JeffM | again, that is just part of the history, mention it in a readme or an abbout. |
| 04:46.25 | L4m3r | mention it on the appropriate wiki page ;) |
| 04:46.29 | Epyon | JeffM, I think it's only fair to write down Google SOMEWHERE. |
| 04:46.31 | JeffM | others will work on it later |
| 04:46.39 | JeffM | Epyon, indeed, in the readme |
| 04:46.53 | JeffM | bzflag dosn't mention SGI in the app |
| 04:47.01 | Epyon | JeffM, can I create a CREDITS file and put all my thanks into it? |
| 04:47.18 | JeffM | you can create whatever you want |
| 04:47.33 | JeffM | just remmeber that the applicaiton isn't done |
| 04:47.38 | JeffM | it's only just started |
| 04:47.51 | ruskie | :) |
| 04:48.09 | Epyon | I hope that after the GSoC I'll still be it's "maintainer" (as long as I work on it) :P |
| 04:48.51 | JeffM | no, tim is the maintnainer |
| 04:49.03 | JeffM | I'm sure you'll be one of the primary contributors to it |
| 04:49.11 | Epyon | *sigh* that's not what I meant xP |
| 04:49.15 | JeffM | since you will know the most of the codee |
| 04:49.24 | JeffM | but others will work on it |
| 04:50.14 | ruskie | what complexity |
| 04:50.51 | JeffM | if no others ever work on your code, then that makes it somewhat pointless for us as an open source project ;) |
| 04:50.52 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15198 10/trunk/bzwgen/AUTHORS: Initial import. |
| 04:51.22 | JeffM | as for files, I'd match what BZ does |
| 04:51.42 | Epyon | JeffM, that is? |
| 04:51.59 | JeffM | README and AUTHORS |
| 04:52.01 | jude- | JeffM: do you want the GSoC students to put the "This is free software..." preamble at the beginning of all our project files? |
| 04:52.03 | JeffM | and a COPYING |
| 04:52.15 | JeffM | jude-, they shoudl have the same thing BZ has |
| 04:52.20 | jude- | right then |
| 04:52.33 | Epyon | isn't COPYING just a copy of GPL? |
| 04:52.43 | JeffM | LGPL, yes |
| 04:52.43 | Constitution | LGPL, I believe |
| 04:52.55 | Epyon | BZFlag is LGPL??? o.O |
| 04:52.59 | JeffM | each thing that is distributed seperately needs one |
| 04:52.59 | JeffM | yes |
| 04:53.03 | Epyon | Wow |
| 04:53.07 | JeffM | why wow? |
| 04:53.50 | jude- | didn't you read BZFlag's "Preferred License" entry on Google's SoC page? |
| 04:53.52 | Epyon | Linux users seem to frown upon LGPL, as something to be used only under dire circumstances :P |
| 04:54.00 | jude- | pffft |
| 04:54.02 | JeffM | who cares |
| 04:54.06 | jude- | GTK+ is LGPL-ed |
| 04:54.14 | jude- | and it has the blessing of RMS himself |
| 04:54.15 | JeffM | bzflag is used by windows users more then any other |
| 04:54.41 | JeffM | BZ is lgpl for the expres reasons of being able to link in closed source libs if needed |
| 04:54.48 | Epyon | Well, my own library is LGPL, so I don't detest it, I was just surprised :) |
| 04:55.02 | ruskie | erm |
| 04:55.07 | JeffM | and that just shows how you've never lookd at the code |
| 04:55.18 | ruskie | being lgpl doesn't really make sense there |
| 04:55.27 | Epyon | JeffM, I love your agressive comments xP |
| 04:55.35 | ruskie | lgpl is meant for the lgpl thing to be linked to closed source things |
| 04:55.38 | ruskie | not the other way around |
| 04:55.41 | jude- | JeffM: I've noticed in the preamble in BZFlag's source that the copyright extends to 2006. Should I change it to 2007? |
| 04:55.48 | JeffM | ruskie, you can do it both ways |
| 04:55.58 | JeffM | and yes, if somone wanted to make a "libBZ" and make another game, they could |
| 04:55.59 | Epyon | jude-, yeah I noticed it too :P |
| 04:56.11 | JeffM | jude-, tim didn't update it for 2007? |
| 04:56.14 | JeffM | he should have |
| 04:56.27 | jude- | I have 2.0.8 stable |
| 04:56.32 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15199 10/trunk/bzwgen/COPYING: Licence info. |
| 04:56.32 | JeffM | that is old code |
| 04:56.35 | jude- | indeed |
| 04:56.35 | JeffM | from 2006 |
| 04:56.46 | jude- | thought so |
| 04:56.54 | JeffM | use the stuff from current code |
| 04:57.02 | jude- | kk |
| 04:57.08 | Epyon | JeffM, should I update your GPLib files preambles to 2007 too? :P |
| 04:57.08 | jude- | ~bzsvn |
| 04:57.09 | ibot | methinks bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 04:57.16 | JeffM | new years day tradition is for head to get a massive update :) |
| 04:57.30 | JeffM | Epyon, make them BZ ones |
| 04:57.34 | brlcad | hogwash, lgpl is simply a more flexible license |
| 04:57.53 | Epyon | JeffM, you mean to substitute the header to the BZ one? |
| 04:57.57 | JeffM | brlcad, that may also be true, but tim told me that he did it for a lib auth |
| 04:57.59 | JeffM | Epyon, yeah |
| 04:58.10 | Epyon | kk |
| 04:58.13 | brlcad | a lib auth? |
| 04:58.15 | JeffM | I grant BZ license on prety much anything I publish ;) |
| 04:58.26 | JeffM | brlcad, yeah a closed source auth lib |
| 04:58.33 | JeffM | this was back in the day |
| 04:58.42 | JeffM | or like my libTourny Idea |
| 04:58.44 | brlcad | from what I remember him saying, it was so that someone that wanted to make a bzflag release for console could |
| 04:58.54 | JeffM | that proably as well |
| 04:58.56 | jude- | heh |
| 04:58.59 | brlcad | i.e. a commercial release, if someone was so inclined |
| 04:59.00 | JeffM | like that will ever happen |
| 04:59.05 | JeffM | hah |
| 04:59.14 | brlcad | never know, but with gpl that is practically impossible |
| 04:59.26 | brlcad | might as well not impose the legal barrier |
| 04:59.27 | L4m3r | make one for the wii |
| 04:59.36 | JeffM | well yeah you'd have to link closed source stuff in too for that to work |
| 04:59.45 | L4m3r | people will love it for the awkward controls :) |
| 04:59.47 | JeffM | heck, I'd think you'd need to be LGPL to even use DirectX |
| 04:59.51 | brlcad | so with lgpl, it's actually feasible |
| 05:00.07 | Epyon | o.O |
| 05:00.09 | brlcad | you can still link directx shared |
| 05:01.25 | ruskie | you can link in closed source stuff when using gpl |
| 05:01.33 | ruskie | just look at the second life client :) |
| 05:01.44 | JeffM | direct x is not bad for a few of it's APIs |
| 05:01.55 | JeffM | dsound and dinput are not too bad |
| 05:02.04 | JeffM | d3d is "diferent" |
| 05:02.10 | JeffM | it can be nicer then GL for a few things |
| 05:02.12 | jude- | those two aren't bad...DirectDraw is just weird |
| 05:02.18 | JeffM | since its' not a state machine |
| 05:02.38 | jude- | ...although not as weird as it was before 7.0 |
| 05:03.30 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15200 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (34 files): MASSSSSSIVE but least important update : 2006 -> 2007 in the preambles. |
| 05:03.43 | jude- | lol |
| 05:05.25 | ruskie | :) |
| 05:05.38 | brlcad | ruskie: right, that was the point -- with gpl that becomes somewhat of a problem |
| 05:06.25 | JeffM | Epyon, using SDL on windows is using directX with gloves ;) |
| 05:07.29 | Constitution | Epyon: with a 39-and-a-half foot pole? :-) |
| 05:07.41 | Epyon | JeffM, gloves, stick, what's the difference :P |
| 05:07.51 | jude- | and using OpenGL in Vista usually means going through an OpenGL compatibility layer based on DirectX |
| 05:07.53 | Epyon | Constitution, did you take into account the map.bzw change? |
| 05:08.16 | Constitution | not yet... will do so now |
| 05:08.24 | Epyon | jude-, I strongly hope nVidia will break that soon/ |
| 05:08.34 | jude- | MS is certainly making it difficult |
| 05:08.51 | jude- | I'd expect NVIDIA to be the first, if any |
| 05:08.57 | JeffM | jude-, not anymore |
| 05:09.02 | jude- | oh> |
| 05:09.04 | jude- | *? |
| 05:09.09 | JeffM | it's been direct since beta |
| 05:09.16 | jude- | yay |
| 05:09.18 | Epyon | :) |
| 05:09.35 | JeffM | nvidia drivers on vista are better |
| 05:09.39 | JeffM | ATI has a ways to go |
| 05:09.53 | Epyon | Funny, but nVidia and ID Software are the last bastion against killing Linux as a gaming machine :P |
| 05:10.15 | Epyon | I love the way ID Software sticks to OpenGL. |
| 05:11.12 | Epyon | never ATI |
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| 05:11.22 | ruskie | ati here :) |
| 05:11.42 | ruskie | but I'm waiting for the open graphics project to put out a consumer device... |
| 05:13.00 | L4m3r | fglrx just sucks. |
| 05:13.05 | ruskie | lol |
| 05:13.09 | ruskie | I never used fglrx |
| 05:13.23 | L4m3r | no other driver for me |
| 05:13.25 | ruskie | mesalib dri drivers always just worked |
| 05:13.48 | Epyon | Okay, this is the last beer. |
| 05:13.50 | ruskie | but then I buy hardware for which I can use such drivers |
| 05:14.06 | L4m3r | I bought a laptop, so there was not a lot of choice in the matter |
| 05:14.40 | Epyon | My PC that burned and is at service has two 7600 nVidias :( |
| 05:15.15 | L4m3r | my desktop has a single 6600GT >_< |
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| 05:15.51 | Constitution | Epyon: updated... everything looks good |
| 05:16.20 | Constitution | the rooftop gardens are a nice touch :-) |
| 05:16.22 | Epyon | Constitution great :D |
| 05:16.38 | L4m3r | third? I'm still using a CRT |
| 05:16.40 | L4m3r | granted, though, it's 21" |
| 05:16.42 | L4m3r | quite a beast |
| 05:16.43 | Epyon | Constitution, I know it's a little silly, but adds some variety. |
| 05:16.55 | Epyon | I couldn't look at a CRT anymore :/ |
| 05:17.39 | Constitution | anyone know how bzwgen's textures are going to be handled? will they be included withthe 2.2 client? |
| 05:17.54 | Epyon | Constitution, I doubt that. |
| 05:18.07 | L4m3r | I'd like a pair of LCDs, but I'd use the second as a TV most of the time ;) |
| 05:18.08 | Epyon | Especially that I plan on adding at least 400% more :P |
| 05:18.30 | L4m3r | we'll probably throw 'em on images.bzflag.org or somesuch |
| 05:18.33 | Constitution | okay |
| 05:18.52 | L4m3r | Constitution, if you don't want to eat up bandwidth hosting them, I can |
| 05:20.24 | Epyon | L4m3r, I though that 2 monitors are just for show until I started using them. Now I feel *really* uncomfortable using just one. For instance -- I code on one, and have my IM, WinAmp, and IRC on the other. Or code on one and keep reference on the other. Or model on one and have the renderingon the other. Or in the current case - play BZF on one, and chat on the other :P |
| 05:20.53 | Epyon | Constitution, I also have a WWW server with *LOTS* of spare bandwidth :) |
| 05:21.08 | L4m3r | I do that too, Epyon, except I have a laptop in place of a second screen |
| 05:21.30 | L4m3r | Epyon: but do you have a bzflag.org or bzflag.bz subdomain? ;) |
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| 05:22.30 | Constitution | sorry, got disconnected... what did I miss? |
| 05:23.05 | Epyon | L4m3r, nope :) |
| 05:23.15 | L4m3r | you need that too ;) |
| 05:23.17 | Epyon | L4m3r, I just have my own trusty chaosforge :D |
| 05:23.45 | L4m3r | textures won't download from there on most clients, that's all |
| 05:23.47 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r15201 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (127 files in 16 dirs): |
| 05:23.47 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: Minor improvements to group rendering (not perfect yet), but more importantly: added the Free Software |
| 05:23.47 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: preamble to the beginning of all files (which is why this commit is so big). |
| 05:23.55 | Epyon | L4m3r, don't say that you don't read my bzwgen blog every day xP |
| 05:24.06 | Epyon | ~jude-++ |
| 05:24.11 | jude- | ~Epyon++ |
| 05:24.25 | Epyon | Hey, I'm not commiting today anymore :> |
| 05:24.55 | Epyon | 127 files o.O |
| 05:25.10 | jude- | 127 *source* files |
| 05:25.14 | Epyon | I wonder how much bigger is bzworkbench than bzwgen :( |
| 05:25.26 | jude- | SLoC: ~20,000 |
| 05:25.39 | Epyon | jude-, how did you count that? |
| 05:25.46 | jude- | let me pull up the command: |
| 05:26.13 | jude- | find . -regex '.*\.\(c\|h\|cxx\|cpp\)' -print0 | xargs -0 cat | wc -l |
| 05:26.54 | Epyon | duh, doesn't work on windows, despite the fact that I have all commands :/ |
| 05:27.06 | jude- | get Knoppix and try it out :) |
| 05:27.10 | Epyon | Plain wc gives about 8000 loc |
| 05:27.29 | Epyon | But that includes the preamble and post comments :? |
| 05:27.33 | jude- | nope |
| 05:27.42 | jude- | well, comments BEFORE the preamble |
| 05:27.45 | jude- | i.e. added before |
| 05:27.53 | jude- | it's a bit less than 20,000 |
| 05:27.59 | jude- | about 19,600-ish |
| 05:28.10 | jude- | but in reality, SLoC is pretty vague |
| 05:28.13 | bryjen | http://bryjen.bzflag.org/bzfi0057.png some odd street markings and grassy "crosswalks" ;) |
| 05:28.17 | Epyon | jude-, checkout and run that on my pproject :) |
| 05:30.46 | jude- | where's your module located? |
| 05:31.02 | jude- | I see bzrobots... |
| 05:31.27 | Epyon | bzwgen in the trunk |
| 05:31.46 | jude- | ~bzsvn |
| 05:31.47 | ibot | from memory, bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 05:31.55 | jude- | that trunk? |
| 05:33.03 | jude- | ...'cause I don't see it |
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| 05:35.03 | Epyon | https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzwgen/ |
| 05:35.10 | jude- | that's the one |
| 05:35.59 | jude- | 4,704 SLoC |
| 05:36.14 | Epyon | woah, I so much suck compared to you :D |
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| 05:36.39 | L4m3r | s'ok, I'm well under 1000 |
| 05:36.53 | L4m3r | closer to 500 probably... yay for libirc |
| 05:37.09 | jude- | ....and daxxar is at 8,318 in bzrobots |
| 05:37.15 | Epyon | :( |
| 05:37.28 | Constitution | Epyon: -b 2 and -b 4 don't seem to generate bases in the map file... am I missing something? |
| 05:37.45 | jude- | keep in mind, Epyon, that my project is inherently BIGGER than yours ;) |
| 05:38.19 | jude- | from what I've seen, I'd say you're closer to finishing your project than I am |
| 05:39.17 | Epyon | Constitution, wierd :/ |
| 05:39.25 | Epyon | I'll look into it tommorow |
| 05:39.28 | Constitution | okay |
| 05:39.44 | Epyon | Today I'm too tired and too... drunk ... to code xP |
| 05:40.02 | Epyon | jude-, you've also got a lot of LOC from the interface :) |
| 05:40.32 | jude- | BZWB is ~10,000 without the GUI (just the text parser, modeling system, file I/O, etc) |
| 05:40.32 | Epyon | And I removed a lot of code once I implemented the grammar. It basically is a shortcut xP |
| 05:44.25 | Epyon | jude-, join the fun at fairserve :D |
| 05:44.30 | Epyon | Everyone too :P |
| 05:45.28 | jude- | ~wiki fairserve |
| 05:45.39 | Constitution | jude-: lol |
| 05:45.52 | jude- | ~google fairserv |
| 05:46.05 | jude- | why did I type that in this window? |
| 05:46.18 | Constitution | lol |
| 05:47.00 | jude- | cheap bzfs hosting? interesting |
| 05:49.17 | Constitution | jude-: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10642 |
| 05:49.41 | Epyon | Constitution, any chance of me getting an @ at that server? Just for show, I don't know how to use the admin commands anyway :P |
| 05:50.22 | Constitution | yeah sure... hang on |
| 05:50.51 | ruskie | lol |
| 05:52.10 | jude- | ooooo |
| 05:52.12 | daxxar | jude-: 8354 LoC, I believe. :-P |
| 05:52.17 | daxxar | jude-: (did you count *.i *.py too?) |
| 05:52.21 | jude- | nope |
| 05:52.26 | jude- | 8354 it is, then :) |
| 05:52.46 | daxxar | But a lot of them are in botplaying.cxx, which has a lot from bzflag |
| 05:52.50 | daxxar | (playing.cxx) |
| 05:52.58 | jude- | so? |
| 05:53.01 | jude- | it's still part of your project |
| 05:53.04 | daxxar | True. :-) |
| 05:54.47 | ruskie | hmm my poor mouse seems to have started to die... |
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| 06:24.27 | Epyon | Fuuun ^_^ |
| 06:27.40 | Constitution | indeed |
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| 06:57.32 | Epyon | bnight all ^_^! |
| 06:57.40 | Epyon | night* |
| 06:59.25 | L4m3r | ~Epyon++ |
| 07:01.25 | Epyon | ~L4m3r++ |
| 07:01.26 | Epyon | ;] |
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| 07:15.03 | Manu | I_Died_Once: pong :) |
| 07:27.05 | L4m3r | I think a_meteorite took care of it, Manu |
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| 07:37.50 | Manu | L4m3r: ah, thanks |
| 07:38.04 | Manu | I was sleeping ;) |
| 07:39.26 | L4m3r | :) |
| 07:48.36 | brlcad | anyone know how you turn off incremental compilation in studio? (not just incremental linking, and in 2005) |
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| 08:04.31 | brlcad | never mind, I found it .. stupid stale state files, just needed to restart |
| 08:06.39 | Manu | hola brlcad :) despierto a estas horas.. como siempre ;) |
| 08:06.53 | brlcad | por supuesto :) |
| 08:07.09 | Manu | yo tambien estoy despierto a estas horas ;) |
| 08:07.09 | brlcad | que hora es por alli? |
| 08:07.19 | Manu | 10:07 am |
| 08:07.25 | Manu | 4:07 am para ti :) |
| 08:07.25 | brlcad | ah, que bien :) |
| 08:07.48 | brlcad | no voy a dormir hoy, demasiado que hacer |
| 08:08.08 | Manu | wow, lo que hace el estar soltero ;) |
| 08:08.28 | Manu | aun conservas tu libertad |
| 08:08.30 | brlcad | quien dijo que estoy soltero? *ahem* :) |
| 08:08.44 | Manu | que tonterias digo .. ahemn :) |
| 08:09.27 | brlcad | es la vida de un trabajolico ;) |
| 08:09.54 | Manu | :) |
| 08:10.03 | brlcad | creo que me gusta sufrir, trabajo demasiado |
| 08:10.31 | Manu | yo creo que cada vez duermo menos :) debe ser cosa de la edad, lol |
| 08:10.38 | brlcad | aunque disfruto duro quando lo hago .. solo es raro con lo tanto que estoy enfrente de la computadora |
| 08:10.53 | brlcad | quiza.. |
| 08:11.04 | brlcad | aun |
| 08:11.36 | Manu | yo estos dias estoy un poco liado de trabajo.. tengo que acabar mi nuevo POS antes del otoño |
| 08:12.18 | brlcad | yo creo que duermo lo mismo que hice hace 10 a~nos .. 4-6 al dia y hacer un all-nighter como una vez a la semana encima |
| 08:12.37 | Manu | all-nighter.. quien pudiera :) |
| 08:12.39 | brlcad | mas en los fines de semana por supuesto |
| 08:13.02 | brlcad | tu nuevo POS? |
| 08:13.03 | Manu | yo ni eso :) |
| 08:13.19 | Manu | Point Of Sale - Terminal Punto de Venta |
| 08:13.26 | brlcad | ahh |
| 08:13.58 | brlcad | jeje, pense piece-of-sh.. |
| 08:14.06 | Manu | jeje |
| 08:14.56 | Manu | mi antiguo POS funciona solamente en window$ el nuevo funciona en linux, windows y MacOs |
| 08:20.02 | brlcad | la soluccion es facil.. compra un mac :) |
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| 09:05.38 | Saturos | Hey guys, I've a mapping question. I know I can create spawn-zones... but I want the opposite: An area where people CANT spawn - I could create that by covering every other piece of the map with a spawn-zone but that doesnt sound like a nice solution. I could put a very flat box on the ground and make sure -sb isnt set... maybe make the box noradar and give it the ground-tex so that one doesnt get confused by it. But is there a better solution |
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| 09:26.13 | Saturos | Alright, CBG told me I should just use the box and make it invisible. Problem solved. :) |
| 10:13.52 | ruskie | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/20/intel_updates_gma_driver/ <-- hmmm |
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| 15:20.05 | Winny | when is BZWB being released? |
| 15:25.28 | blast007 | right after they release the hounds |
| 15:25.58 | Winny | when do they release the hounds? |
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| 15:55.18 | Epyon_ | Winny, ping? |
| 15:55.32 | Winny | Epyon_, pong? |
| 15:55.40 | Epyon_ | Any textures? :) |
| 15:55.44 | Winny | working on it |
| 15:56.00 | Epyon_ | kk, remeber to have seperate textures for the ground level |
| 15:56.34 | I_Died_Once | I'm not wearing pants |
| 15:56.39 | I_Died_Once | oops, wrong chat |
| 15:56.46 | Winny | are you sure about 256, Epyon_? |
| 15:57.55 | Winny | Epyon_: poke |
| 15:58.23 | Epyon_ | Winny, you can always do them higher, and supply me a low res version. I think the generator itself will have a "detail level" option, so he could pick the textures based on that... |
| 15:58.38 | Winny | k, ill do them at 512 |
| 16:01.51 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15202 10/trunk/bzwgen/bzwgen.cxx: Ability to read command line options from a separate file --config (-c) command line argument. |
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| 16:04.19 | Winny | the sears tower siding is interesting... the tower is black, but the windows also appear black |
| 16:10.05 | Winny | Epyon_: ^ |
| 16:15.34 | JeffM | L4m3r, you awake? |
| 16:17.56 | JeffM | ibot logs |
| 16:17.57 | ibot | it has been said that logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 16:18.43 | JeffM | bahh he said what messages were bad after midnight GMT :/ |
| 16:25.43 | blast007 | 19:45:58 <+L4m3r> JeffM, libIRC's eIRCChannelPartEvent seems to cause a segfault |
| 16:25.44 | blast007 | 19:46:14 <+L4m3r> and eIRCChannelJoinEvent doesn't seem to do anything |
| 16:25.44 | blast007 | 19:46:40 <+L4m3r> changing the former to eIRCUserPartEvent fixed it |
| 16:26.08 | JeffM | ahahah, both you and donny_baker at the same time :) |
| 16:27.25 | blast007 | heh |
| 16:32.02 | JeffM | now I wonder how an event call can segfualt |
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| 16:35.54 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15203 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (Expression.cxx Expression.h Operation.cxx Operation.h): Expressions have mesh and face passed as arguments to calculate() |
| 16:36.46 | JeffM | so how much longer on SoC? |
| 16:36.57 | Epyon_ | No idea |
| 16:37.14 | Epyon_ | A deadline doesn't change my situation anyway :P |
| 16:37.30 | JeffM | I was just curious |
| 16:37.31 | Epyon_ | Unless there is some "must have" feature to be implemented now. |
| 16:38.01 | JeffM | no no, mostly to say that any time after that date, others can work on it with out fear of screwing up the "no help" part of SoC |
| 16:38.50 | Epyon_ | JeffM, I doubt there are people sitting now looking at bzwgen and their clocks waiting to jump in and code :P |
| 16:39.13 | JeffM | Epyon_, as I said, just curiousity |
| 16:39.18 | JeffM | but you'd be suprised |
| 16:39.43 | Epyon_ | I'll be if that happens before I write the documentation :> |
| 16:40.10 | JeffM | mostly I'm thinking about going over each of the project's packaging systems |
| 16:40.23 | JeffM | installers, builds for the major OSs, etc.. |
| 16:40.37 | JeffM | so that we can have a "release" of them that everyone can use |
| 16:40.51 | Epyon_ | Ah, true :) |
| 16:41.23 | Admirarch | A question: Has there been a bug fixed relating to increased tank speed on minimising? I'm seeing such behaviour in 2.0.8 but can't get other people to reproduce it with CVS |
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| 16:44.41 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15204 10/trunk/bzwgen/Expression.h: Abstract ExpressionDouble class implemented for two-argument expressions. |
| 16:47.14 | Epyon_ | Darn is there any way a class can inherit a constructor? |
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| 16:52.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15205 10/trunk/bzwgen/Expression.h: Expression classes added for basic math (+-*/) |
| 16:54.29 | blast007 | and I'd be happy to help set up installers for the various projects |
| 16:54.48 | Epyon_ | Nullsoft? |
| 16:54.52 | blast007 | yup |
| 16:55.17 | Epyon_ | blast007, would you feel used if I asked you for help with that in my own non-OS project? :) |
| 16:55.33 | JeffM | NSIS is a good app |
| 16:55.37 | Epyon_ | not now, but somewhere in the future |
| 16:55.39 | blast007 | Epyon_: nah |
| 16:58.11 | TD-Linux | Epyon_, can I take you up on that offer for the latest bzflag windows binaries? |
| 16:58.31 | Epyon_ | TD-Linux ? |
| 16:59.13 | TD-Linux | so I can try the map generator |
| 16:59.32 | Epyon_ | Aaah, you only need the recent bzfs. The client is ok. |
| 16:59.52 | TD-Linux | I still don't have a recent 2.1 client |
| 16:59.57 | TD-Linux | unless 2.0 bzfs was fixed too ? |
| 17:00.06 | Epyon_ | I use 2.0.fixed :> |
| 17:00.12 | TD-Linux | w00t! |
| 17:00.13 | Epyon_ | JeffM sent me. |
| 17:00.32 | TD-Linux | *bzfs |
| 17:00.56 | Epyon_ | I can forward it to you if you the win binaries if you supply me an email. |
| 17:01.02 | JeffM | he can build |
| 17:01.17 | Epyon_ | JeffM, ah he's a creature with hands? o.O |
| 17:01.33 | TD-Linux | I thought I needed a new client too |
| 17:01.46 | TD-Linux | and only my windoze box can run bzflag atm. |
| 17:01.59 | JeffM | you don't need a new client |
| 17:02.07 | JeffM | the server had a bug with large maps |
| 17:02.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15206 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (Expression.h parser.y): Basic math (+-*/) implemented for the grammar. |
| 17:02.12 | Epyon_ | Duh, the math stuff went quicker than I thought -_- |
| 17:02.16 | JeffM | well maps with lots of materials |
| 17:02.19 | Epyon_ | brb, dinner |
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| 17:34.41 | Epyon | back, did I miss something? |
| 17:35.04 | blast007 | you missed the dance fever |
| 17:36.24 | Epyon | I lost the log since "brb dinner" |
| 17:37.34 | ruskie | Epyon, nothing happened inbetwees |
| 17:38.37 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15207 10/trunk/bzwgen/parser.y: Expression grouping () |
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| 18:11.09 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15208 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (Expression.h lexer.l parser.y): Added face(attribute) expression. The powah! |
| 18:11.30 | Winny | hrm |
| 18:12.20 | L4m3r | Epyon: I realize this is over an hour late, but: |
| 18:12.20 | Epyon | basically now one can do -> partitionh(face(h)-0.6) :D |
| 18:12.22 | L4m3r | [09:49] <Epyon_> Darn is there any way a class can inherit a constructor? |
| 18:12.37 | L4m3r | just call the base class constructor ;) |
| 18:13.07 | Epyon | L4m3r, but when calling new how will one know which inherited class to use? ;] |
| 18:13.24 | Epyon | Expression* exp = new ExpressionDouble(a,b) :P |
| 18:13.47 | Epyon | And I have ExpressionSub/Div and all derived from ExpressionDouble. |
| 18:13.50 | JeffM | Epyon, it goes down the chain |
| 18:13.53 | L4m3r | it will call the one for ExpressionDouble |
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| 18:14.01 | Chestal | ctors cannot be inherited in C++98 |
| 18:14.10 | JeffM | it calls the first one in the chain that matches the call params |
| 18:14.17 | Epyon | In this case I need to implement a cnstructor for ExpressionSub/Div and others |
| 18:14.30 | L4m3r | Epyon: indeed, but it can be a one-liner |
| 18:14.36 | Epyon | it is :P |
| 18:14.41 | JeffM | and just pass it thru to he next one down |
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| 18:14.49 | L4m3r | ExpressionDouble::ExpressionDouble(params) |
| 18:14.52 | Epyon | ExpressionAdd(Expression* _a, Expression* _b) : ExpressionDouble(_a,_b) {} |
| 18:15.05 | L4m3r | :) |
| 18:15.18 | Epyon | Constitution, what's up with the server? Compilation/Execution problems? |
| 18:16.09 | JeffM | L4m3r, when you mentioned that the channel part and join events crashed, where did it crash? in the lib? in your code when you got them? |
| 18:18.16 | Constitution | Epyon: checking |
| 18:18.49 | L4m3r | JeffM: when the bot logged in, and I /part-ed from a channel the bot was in, it'd segfault |
| 18:19.16 | L4m3r | if I changed the event to eIRCUserPartEvent, it'd work |
| 18:19.18 | JeffM | ok, so when it was sending the event? |
| 18:19.21 | JeffM | k |
| 18:19.24 | L4m3r | I suppose so |
| 18:19.27 | L4m3r | wait... |
| 18:19.46 | JeffM | the data structure? :) |
| 18:20.38 | L4m3r | ah, no, it was indeed registered for both events |
| 18:20.49 | L4m3r | both events use the same data structure, yes? |
| 18:21.14 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:21.16 | JeffM | they do |
| 18:21.28 | JeffM | I'll add part support to stupidbot and see if I can get the crash |
| 18:23.11 | JeffM | when a user parts a channel it calls userpart |
| 18:23.21 | JeffM | when the bot parts it calls channel part |
| 18:23.32 | JeffM | did you ever have the bot part the channel? |
| 18:23.48 | L4m3r | nope |
| 18:24.03 | L4m3r | that's odd, though... |
| 18:24.08 | JeffM | so channel part was being called by another user parting? |
| 18:24.13 | L4m3r | apparently |
| 18:24.17 | JeffM | k |
| 18:24.22 | JeffM | I may know what it is |
| 18:24.25 | JeffM | I'll test |
| 18:25.05 | L4m3r | oh, what's a good character, other than #, to use for commenting lines in a conf file? |
| 18:25.11 | Constitution | Epyon: it's back up... not sure what happened there |
| 18:25.19 | JeffM | / :) |
| 18:25.23 | JeffM | or //// |
| 18:25.31 | JeffM | it's usualy easy to detect // |
| 18:25.49 | L4m3r | hm |
| 18:26.05 | L4m3r | yeah, can't use # in an IRC conf for obvious reasons |
| 18:26.15 | JeffM | ; can work too |
| 18:27.31 | L4m3r | there's no existing documentation for libIRC, eh? |
| 18:27.53 | JeffM | not really |
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| 18:33.04 | JeffM | L4m3r, I just did a test and all I got was a user part event |
| 18:33.09 | JeffM | not a channel part |
| 18:33.17 | L4m3r | hm |
| 18:33.31 | L4m3r | maybe I called something that wasn't there? |
| 18:33.44 | L4m3r | like the channel member? :P |
| 18:34.01 | JeffM | that should not have compied |
| 18:34.03 | JeffM | it has a target |
| 18:34.07 | JeffM | not a channel IIRC |
| 18:34.27 | L4m3r | same object... |
| 18:34.29 | JeffM | I guess it does have a channel |
| 18:34.42 | JeffM | yeah it's assigned to target :) |
| 18:34.53 | L4m3r | heh |
| 18:34.55 | JeffM | only thing I can think of is a miscast of the input pointer |
| 18:35.44 | L4m3r | trPartEventInfo* |
| 18:35.51 | L4m3r | isn't it the same either way? |
| 18:35.54 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:36.07 | JeffM | can someone come join #libIRC for me? |
| 18:36.15 | JeffM | then part :) |
| 18:36.38 | JeffM | there it crashes :) |
| 18:36.39 | L4m3r | wasn't it #irc ? :P |
| 18:36.54 | L4m3r | what'd I do? |
| 18:37.16 | JeffM | hmm it's trying to remove you from the user manager |
| 18:37.43 | JeffM | it didn't do that when I did it |
| 18:37.48 | JeffM | maybe it's a user count thing |
| 18:37.58 | JeffM | join and part again please |
| 18:40.34 | CIA-23 | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r236 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: verify an iterator is valid before we erase it. |
| 18:40.39 | JeffM | try that |
| 18:40.44 | JeffM | I have to go to lunch |
| 18:41.17 | L4m3r | me too :) thx |
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| 18:44.20 | Epyon | Hmm, there's a rare segfault o.O |
| 18:45.57 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15209 10/trunk/bzwgen/GridMap.cxx: Fixed level 3 debug messages and added some level 4 ones, to hunt down a rare segfault. |
| 18:46.05 | tannerld | O.o |
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| 19:13.51 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15210 10/trunk/bzwgen/GridGenerator.cxx: Fixed the texturing and crossroad placement bug with the roads. |
| 19:14.41 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15211 10/trunk/bzwgen/GridMap.cxx: format specifiers |
| 19:15.21 | Epyon | how can I check the diff of that bryjen? |
| 19:15.36 | Epyon | before "svn update" or after? |
| 19:15.53 | Epyon | (via command line, I know I can check it via web) |
| 19:15.56 | bryjen | svn diff -r 15209:15210 |
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| 19:16.45 | bryjen | err, 15210:15211 |
| 19:17.18 | Epyon | thanks :) |
| 19:17.42 | Epyon | bryjen, you're Linux based? |
| 19:17.45 | Epyon | No warnings? |
| 19:18.27 | bryjen | yes to linux, no to warnings |
| 19:18.51 | bryjen | command line switches aren't working though :( |
| 19:18.59 | Epyon | At all? |
| 19:19.12 | Epyon | I know the bases switch doesn't work :/ |
| 19:19.18 | Epyon | try -d 4 |
| 19:19.23 | Epyon | or -h |
| 19:19.34 | Epyon | If it doesn't work bug JeffM :) |
| 19:19.46 | bryjen | nope for -d or -h |
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| 19:21.54 | Epyon | JeffM, ping! |
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| 19:32.21 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15212 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/test.set: A couple nice visual additions... I NEED TEXTURES! |
| 19:34.06 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15213 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (Expression.h parser.y): Added ExpressionGreater - kind of a hack because of the fact that Expressions return floats on execution, Greater returns 1.0 on true, and -1.0 on false. |
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| 19:42.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15214 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (Operation.h lexer.l parser.y): OperationAssert added - it will be a guard against infinite recursion (I suspect that segfault that happens is a recursion too far...) |
| 19:45.46 | JeffM | huh? |
| 19:46.05 | Epyon | JeffM, seems that commandArgs don't work on Linux :/ |
| 19:46.12 | Epyon | bryjen has the details. |
| 19:46.38 | bryjen | that's all of 'em there |
| 19:47.02 | JeffM | can you debug it? |
| 19:47.15 | JeffM | cus nix just calls the argc and argv set |
| 19:47.18 | JeffM | and that' is what I tested |
| 19:47.32 | JeffM | let me make sure the strlower is working right |
| 19:49.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15215 10/trunk/bzwgen/rules/test.set: Added assertions to the recursive parts of the set, to prevent operations on inproper faces. |
| 19:50.04 | JeffM | can't see how it woudln't work |
| 19:50.13 | JeffM | this is valid right? |
| 19:50.14 | JeffM | while(*szData++) |
| 19:50.14 | JeffM | *szData = toupper(*szData); |
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| 19:51.43 | Epyon | BTW, SoC is now officialy over xP |
| 19:52.09 | tannerld | dun dun duh! |
| 19:52.14 | Epyon | May I continue working on the app? You don't have to take the further changes into account :P |
| 19:52.27 | Erroneous | by all means, please continue :) |
| 19:52.28 | JeffM | of course you can |
| 19:52.31 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:52.37 | Epyon | Maybe I should make a snapshot now for code.google.com submission? |
| 19:52.45 | JeffM | make a tag |
| 19:52.54 | JeffM | Erroneous, you should tag all of them |
| 19:52.58 | Epyon | Err how to do that o.O |
| 19:54.11 | Erroneous | tagging is a copy op in svn iirc |
| 19:54.18 | JeffM | whatever |
| 19:54.24 | Epyon | Okay, now I can ask the question without the risk that the answer will spoil my work - will I pass? :P |
| 19:55.19 | JeffM | you mad an app, that did what you said it would, I can't see how you would not pass |
| 19:55.21 | Erroneous | most likely, yes |
| 19:55.35 | Erroneous | unless something is really wrong that I don't know about |
| 19:55.42 | Epyon | Erroneous, like? o.O |
| 19:55.51 | JeffM | like its' all a lie |
| 19:55.53 | Erroneous | dunno, that's why I phrased it that way :) |
| 19:55.56 | JeffM | and dosn't do anything |
| 19:56.16 | Epyon | Well, Constitutions server a living proof :P |
| 19:56.28 | JeffM | you could have made those by hand |
| 19:56.45 | Epyon | JeffM, I think that would been harder xP |
| 19:56.48 | Erroneous | heh |
| 19:56.50 | Erroneous | probably :) |
| 19:56.51 | JeffM | depends |
| 19:56.53 | JeffM | but yeah |
| 19:57.02 | Epyon | Especialy remaking them every hour xP |
| 19:57.02 | JeffM | hence why I said I can't see why you would not pass :) |
| 19:57.22 | JeffM | when do the evals have to be in |
| 19:57.27 | Erroneous | 31st |
| 19:57.49 | JeffM | so far Epyon , you and daxxar have been the most comunicative |
| 19:58.05 | JeffM | what will bode well |
| 19:58.10 | Epyon | jude however made the greatest app imho :P |
| 19:58.19 | Erroneous | largest code volume anyway |
| 19:58.22 | Epyon | I havn't seen it however. |
| 19:58.33 | JeffM | you all made good apps |
| 19:58.51 | JeffM | they will all be great starting points |
| 19:59.06 | JeffM | and did work that none of us would have been able to do in that time |
| 19:59.15 | Epyon | JeffM, you're lucky -- TP had one guy go silent and drop out after his initial payment. And he had a really important project for ThousandParsec to do :/ |
| 19:59.29 | Erroneous | aw |
| 19:59.43 | JeffM | hence why I think it's bad to use SoC as a dev crutch :) |
| 19:59.45 | Epyon | JeffM, I don't recognise you -- suddenly sooo positive :P |
| 20:00.00 | donny_baker | he has indigestion :P |
| 20:00.10 | JeffM | SoC is over, I don't have to play the jerk developer anymore :) |
| 20:00.13 | Erroneous | he doesn't have to play the grumpy old dev anymore :) |
| 20:00.16 | Epyon | JeffM, xP |
| 20:01.05 | Epyon | JeffM, but please look into that commandArg stuff, I don't have a dualboot box anymore, so there's no way for me to check what's wrong :? |
| 20:01.30 | Epyon | And that bug realy takes a lot fun away from linux users |
| 20:01.36 | JeffM | welllll........ maaaayyyyybbbbeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:01.54 | Epyon | (fun = setting absurd values and seeing either bzwgen or bzfs crash) |
| 20:01.55 | CIA-23 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/src/commandArgs.cpp: since we now use text utils, only use one type of toupper and keep it all as std::strings. |
| 20:01.58 | JeffM | ;) |
| 20:02.09 | JeffM | where is your stuff in SVN? |
| 20:02.20 | Erroneous | trunk/bzwgen |
| 20:02.27 | Epyon | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.48 | JeffM | odds of it compiling in VC7.1? |
| 20:02.49 | Epyon | Erroneous, tag after the fix :P |
| 20:02.59 | JeffM | he can tag now it's fine |
| 20:02.59 | Epyon | JeffM, pretty good I'd guess. |
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| 20:03.14 | Erroneous | JeffM: I'd say quite good. no deps afaik. |
| 20:03.19 | JeffM | k |
| 20:03.27 | Epyon | JeffM, oh, you'd need bison and lex though :P |
| 20:03.32 | Erroneous | mm, assuming he checked in the generated code from bison/flex |
| 20:03.33 | JeffM | let me know when the tag is complete and I'll make a VC71 tho |
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| 20:04.32 | Epyon | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/flex.htm |
| 20:04.38 | Epyon | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bison.htm |
| 20:04.46 | JeffM | commit the code, I don't want deps they can be worked around |
| 20:04.46 | Epyon | for flex bison under win32 |
| 20:05.20 | JeffM | people generaly don't need to edit those files unless they want to change the langauge stuff right? |
| 20:05.26 | Epyon | Yep. |
| 20:05.32 | JeffM | then commit your versions |
| 20:05.44 | JeffM | someone MAY want to edit them by hand |
| 20:05.46 | Epyon | But making changes is basically extending the language :P |
| 20:05.49 | Erroneous | ~bzsvn |
| 20:05.49 | ibot | methinks bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 20:05.58 | JeffM | Epyon, then they won't change often |
| 20:06.00 | JeffM | commit them |
| 20:06.16 | JeffM | so we don't need the dependency unless we want to extend the language |
| 20:06.48 | Epyon | JeffM, errrr, they are basically unreadable, so I doubt anyone will change them. They SHOULDN'T, or they'd break the possibility to extend the language |
| 20:06.59 | JeffM | then commit them :) |
| 20:07.26 | Epyon | Also they might not be portable :/ |
| 20:07.28 | JeffM | Erroneous, I have the repo checkd out with tort, want me to tag it |
| 20:07.33 | JeffM | Epyon, commit them and we'll see |
| 20:07.35 | Erroneous | nope |
| 20:07.47 | JeffM | we can make VC specific ones like we do for configs |
| 20:07.50 | Epyon | *sign* as you wish, but I don't think it's a good idea. |
| 20:08.06 | JeffM | it's not a bad one :) |
| 20:08.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r15216 10/tags/soc-bzwgen/: Tag end of SoC |
| 20:08.43 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r15217 10/tags/soc-bzworkbench/: Tag end of SoC |
| 20:09.09 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15218 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/ (. VC71/ VC8/): start dirs for the projects so we dont' conficticate |
| 20:09.19 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r15219 10/tags/soc-bzrobots/: Tag end of SoC |
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| 20:10.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r15220 10/tags/soc-irc/: Tag end of SoC |
| 20:11.48 | Erroneous | probably should have marked those with years too |
| 20:11.50 | Erroneous | oh well |
| 20:12.11 | JeffM | we can rename the URL it copied them to if we need to |
| 20:12.17 | Epyon | Erroneous, I also hope BZFlag will get to SoC next year ;) |
| 20:12.40 | Erroneous | yeah, svn can actually change tag names, so not a big deal |
| 20:12.45 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15221 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (lexer.cxx parser.cxx parser.hxx): Flex and bison generated files. Changes to them *WILL BE LOST* . |
| 20:13.05 | Erroneous | besides, the chances of getting name collisions is not that great |
| 20:13.10 | Erroneous | 'cept maybe for bzrobots |
| 20:13.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15222 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:13.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: move project and solution files to VC8 dir |
| 20:13.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: copy and format a set of project and solution files for VC71 |
| 20:14.04 | Epyon | JeffM, what should I do now to update the project? |
| 20:14.14 | JeffM | Epyon, what do you mean? |
| 20:14.31 | Epyon | You changed the dirs, will it still load? |
| 20:14.43 | JeffM | I took care of it |
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| 20:16.03 | bryjen | parser.cxx:233: error: declaration of 'void* malloc(unsigned int)' throws different exceptions |
| 20:16.30 | JeffM | you define a malloc? |
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| 20:16.32 | JeffM | dude |
| 20:16.33 | Erroneous | bryjen: build scripts on unix-likes should overwrite them |
| 20:16.49 | Erroneous | if they don't, they should be fixed |
| 20:17.07 | bryjen | JeffM: no, that's from the generated cxx files you had Epyon to commit |
| 20:17.15 | JeffM | bryjen, on what OS? |
| 20:17.17 | Erroneous | 'course that probably means Somebody(tm) needs to switch it to autotools |
| 20:17.33 | JeffM | Erroneous, what is the gcc option to add an include dir? |
| 20:17.52 | JeffM | he needs src and inc dirs BAD :) |
| 20:18.36 | JeffM | -I? |
| 20:18.50 | randomparticle | can we have some wings please? |
| 20:19.00 | JeffM | huh? |
| 20:19.00 | randomparticle | there's a wings a flag, but i never see the wings |
| 20:20.12 | Winny | jumpjets :p |
| 20:20.19 | JeffM | yeah they are jet powered |
| 20:20.25 | randomparticle | so it's not a wings flag then |
| 20:20.32 | randomparticle | it's a jet flag :) |
| 20:20.34 | JeffM | code it up |
| 20:20.46 | randomparticle | yeah will do. how many feathers do you want |
| 20:20.56 | JeffM | rename the flag |
| 20:21.24 | randomparticle | the invisible wings flag? |
| 20:22.23 | JeffM | JumpJets |
| 20:22.24 | JeffM | JJ |
| 20:22.27 | randomparticle | hmm.. i've read that the weapons in UT3 will be made of 40,000 - 60,000 polygons |
| 20:22.33 | JeffM | probably |
| 20:22.39 | randomparticle | am wondering how many polygons are in a bzflag tank gun |
| 20:22.54 | JeffM | 16 |
| 20:22.56 | Epyon | JeffM, will you do the restructuring or should I do it? |
| 20:22.58 | JeffM | +5 |
| 20:23.06 | JeffM | Epyon, I am doing it now |
| 20:23.10 | randomparticle | 40,000 sounds ridiculous |
| 20:23.12 | JeffM | I just need to know the gcc command |
| 20:23.17 | JeffM | for including a dir |
| 20:23.18 | Epyon | Also, I TOLD you that commiting the lexer/parser files was a bad thing :P |
| 20:23.18 | randomparticle | they must be incredibly small |
| 20:23.41 | Epyon | randomparticle, it's not that ridiculous today |
| 20:23.48 | JeffM | Epyon, you worry too much, we'll work it out |
| 20:23.57 | randomparticle | they say that some of the weapons have more polys than whole maps in ut2004 |
| 20:23.58 | JeffM | I just needed the actual FILES |
| 20:26.22 | JeffM | bryjen, you were building on nix right? |
| 20:26.26 | bryjen | yes |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15223 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (80 files in 4 dirs): break up the source and header files into nice little chunks. for ease of management. |
| 20:27.01 | JeffM | k |
| 20:27.29 | Epyon | JeffM, tell me once you're done with the file structure, I don't want to mess with conflicts till then. |
| 20:27.57 | JeffM | one sec |
| 20:29.51 | JeffM | there is no lexxer.hxx? |
| 20:30.01 | Epyon | nope |
| 20:30.05 | JeffM | k |
| 20:30.28 | Epyon | JeffM, maybe put them in a separate folder? |
| 20:30.34 | JeffM | parser.hxx is auto generated? |
| 20:30.37 | Epyon | yes |
| 20:30.39 | JeffM | Epyon, just chill ;) |
| 20:30.58 | Epyon | parser.hxx, parser.cxx and lexer.cxx are generated |
| 20:31.03 | JeffM | ok |
| 20:31.12 | JeffM | fun when others are bangin on your code isn't it ;) |
| 20:31.32 | tannerld | heh |
| 20:31.55 | Epyon | Nah, I'm okay with it as long as you don't remove the language and start substituting it with python xP |
| 20:32.10 | Erroneous | hah |
| 20:32.15 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15224 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (9 files in 6 dirs): move the pregenerated parse and lexer files into the MSVC dir, the makefile system should build it's own version using bison. |
| 20:32.21 | JeffM | Epyon, naw, that's tomorow |
| 20:32.55 | Epyon | JeffM, what did you do with the make rules for MSVC 8.0 for the parser and lexer files? |
| 20:33.04 | Epyon | Are they still in? |
| 20:33.12 | JeffM | working on that |
| 20:33.28 | Erroneous | should be a separate build config |
| 20:33.42 | JeffM | that is what I'm doing |
| 20:33.54 | JeffM | a new config for debug and release debug_BISON |
| 20:34.05 | Epyon | nice :D |
| 20:34.23 | bryjen | buggy buffalo ;) |
| 20:34.27 | daxxar | JeffM: \o/ |
| 20:34.28 | Erroneous | bison is not an acronym, doesn't need to be caps :) |
| 20:34.29 | Epyon | Erroneous, ping me when you'll be doing the survey :) |
| 20:34.41 | JeffM | ahh |
| 20:34.42 | Erroneous | I will |
| 20:34.53 | randomparticle | are there any plans to have in-game mouse sensitivity settings? |
| 20:34.55 | Erroneous | bison is a wordplay on yacc (which IS an acronym) |
| 20:35.15 | JeffM | randomparticle, there are no plans |
| 20:35.20 | randomparticle | ok, thanks |
| 20:35.25 | JeffM | randomparticle, in general |
| 20:35.35 | Epyon | the funny unintended wordplay is yacc = gnu bison :P |
| 20:35.37 | randomparticle | there is this: http://icculus.org/manymouse/ |
| 20:35.43 | randomparticle | don't know if it could be adapted |
| 20:35.59 | randomparticle | also licensing.. |
| 20:36.02 | JeffM | randomparticle, I mean there are no plans |
| 20:36.07 | JeffM | we don't make plans |
| 20:36.14 | randomparticle | ok :) |
| 20:36.14 | JeffM | code up and submit what you will |
| 20:36.26 | randomparticle | is it a problem that it's under the zlib license? |
| 20:36.47 | Erroneous | randomparticle: currently we read the cursor position. change the mousebox to change sensitivity. there was a plan at one point to hide the cursor and do it ourselves |
| 20:37.13 | JeffM | and just show axis acceleration markers |
| 20:37.33 | Erroneous | yup |
| 20:37.51 | Erroneous | would be more helpful for joysticks too |
| 20:38.01 | randomparticle | that's ok, but it only goes so far. e.g., doesn't allow for smoothing, indepently configurable axes, acceleration etc |
| 20:38.03 | JeffM | you'd have the same movement UI for any input system |
| 20:38.17 | JeffM | randomparticle, after you have that, you can do thos tho |
| 20:38.32 | JeffM | Epyon, dosn't seem like you did release rules for the bison stuff |
| 20:38.49 | Erroneous | JeffM: don't need it for release |
| 20:38.57 | JeffM | what if you never build debug? |
| 20:39.00 | Erroneous | just build in debug first, that'll replace the generated files |
| 20:39.13 | JeffM | bad dependency there |
| 20:39.17 | Erroneous | if you don't build in debug, you shouldn't be changing files |
| 20:39.38 | randomparticle | i'm not sure the SDL libs could be used to read position properly under OS X |
| 20:39.46 | Erroneous | and if you're not changing files, then you can just use the ones that are checked in |
| 20:40.03 | randomparticle | what i mean is, you ideally want to bypass the bit of the OS that mucks about with acceleration |
| 20:40.10 | JeffM | so you don't think there is need for a release(bison) config? |
| 20:40.16 | Erroneous | randomparticle: manymouse is not sufficient for bzflag anyway. we don't require evdev on linux, and there's no support for e.g. irix |
| 20:40.22 | randomparticle | so you go to a lower level and get the HID info directly |
| 20:40.28 | Erroneous | nor for win2k |
| 20:40.48 | Erroneous | JeffM: nope. but whatever floats your boat ;) |
| 20:40.54 | JeffM | I pulled it |
| 20:40.56 | JeffM | makes sense |
| 20:40.57 | randomparticle | ah, ok |
| 20:42.52 | Erroneous | "not sufficient" doesn't necessarily mean worthless, just you have to be able to use something else if you can't use that |
| 20:43.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15225 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:43.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: setup build targets and the like to be able to not use bison. |
| 20:43.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: make the bison pre-generated files build out of the box |
| 20:43.36 | randomparticle | it's kind of ridiculous that people are buying G5s etc for bzflag to get faster pointer speeds |
| 20:44.10 | randomparticle | you can use a smaller mousebox, of course, but then you have the problem that the cursor can get lost in the dead space around it |
| 20:44.15 | Erroneous | most every server has acceleration limits anyway |
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| 20:45.25 | randomparticle | in the pro quake world the most used mouse is the intellimouse explorer 3.0 |
| 20:45.32 | randomparticle | that only has a 400dpi resolution |
| 20:46.03 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15226 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/VC71/bzlgen.vcproj: copy the build exe to the root dir when it's done. |
| 20:46.34 | randomparticle | but the movement system is completely diff of course |
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| 20:47.37 | JeffM | Epyon, what is the version number of the app right now? |
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| 20:54.16 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15227 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (AUTHORS README): keep more in the style of the bzflag main project. |
| 21:06.00 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15228 10/trunk/bzwgen/Makefile: other slash |
| 21:08.00 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15229 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/nsis/ (11 files): start an installer script |
| 21:08.16 | JeffM | Epyon, well it crashes nice :) |
| 21:09.30 | JeffM | and it won't build debug at warning level 4 |
| 21:10.17 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15230 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/VC71/bzlgen.vcproj: warning level 4 is a bit excessive, specially since it doesn't actually BUILD like that under VC7.1 |
| 21:10.54 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15231 10/trunk/bzwgen/Makefile: tell it where to put the object so they don't end up in the current dir |
| 21:14.03 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15232 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/VC71/bzlgen.vcproj: build debug info for debug builds..... |
| 21:14.45 | Epyon | JeffM, -Werror has been turned off for the parser and lexer files. |
| 21:15.06 | JeffM | did you turn off debug info for the debug build? |
| 21:15.16 | Epyon | No idea :) |
| 21:15.26 | JeffM | you would have had to go in and turn it off |
| 21:15.32 | JeffM | did you ever use the debuger? |
| 21:15.49 | Epyon | Nope:) |
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| 21:19.01 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r15233 10/trunk/bzwgen/: svn:ignore generated files |
| 21:20.28 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15234 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/nsis/bzlgen.nsi: copy the rules dir too on an install |
| 21:21.14 | JeffM | Epyon, is there a list of the internal functions that are exposed via the parser? |
| 21:22.14 | JeffM | is it all basicly the "ruleset" class? |
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| 21:28.24 | Guest435 | hi |
| 21:28.31 | JeffM | hello |
| 21:30.45 | Guest435 | ChanServ: hi |
| 21:30.52 | Guest435 | ibot: hi |
| 21:30.53 | ibot | hello, guest435 |
| 21:31.05 | Guest435 | ibot: what is up |
| 21:31.06 | ibot | ACTION is up to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 21:31.17 | tannerld | ... |
| 21:31.19 | Guest435 | ibot: hello |
| 21:31.20 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 21:31.43 | Guest435 | ibot: sup |
| 21:31.44 | ibot | Yo guest435, how's it going eh? |
| 21:31.55 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.55 | Guest435 | ibot: just playing bzflag |
| 21:32.10 | JeffM | this is't a place to abbuse the bot |
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| 21:36.24 | Winny | I won;t say anything :p |
| 21:39.25 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15235 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/VC71/bzlgen.vcproj: proper header dir for language headers |
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| 21:50.30 | Epyon | JeffM, no idea. I think I use only yyparse() but I'm unsure of that atm |
| 21:50.40 | JeffM | I foudn it |
| 21:50.49 | JeffM | it's all the logic done in yyparse |
| 21:50.54 | bryjen | http://bryjen.bzflag.org/sidewaysSkyScraper.png |
| 21:51.17 | JeffM | nice |
| 21:51.52 | tannerld | bryjen: that looks confusing |
| 21:52.09 | Epyon | lool |
| 21:52.16 | tannerld | lol |
| 21:52.20 | Epyon | bryjen, did you mess with the language? |
| 21:52.26 | bryjen | nope |
| 21:52.50 | Epyon | It happend on a unmodified bzwgen? o.O |
| 21:54.48 | Winny | when BZFlag crashes, it adjusts my screen brightness up about 5%... is there a way to reverse this, so I don;t have to restart? |
| 21:54.52 | bryjen | in between segfaults |
| 21:54.59 | Epyon | ?? |
| 21:55.24 | JeffM | Winny, not really |
| 21:55.46 | Winny | hm, darn, ok |
| 21:55.57 | JeffM | we'd have to redo our app to have a gamma loader :) |
| 21:57.25 | bryjen | it's faulting sometimes after "Pushing zones" |
| 21:58.27 | Epyon | I'm on it. |
| 21:58.39 | Epyon | JeffM, have you finished with the directory structure? |
| 21:58.43 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:58.46 | JeffM | for now |
| 21:58.50 | Epyon | kk |
| 21:59.59 | Epyon | Ok, found the reason of the bug |
| 22:00.07 | Epyon | (the sideways one) |
| 22:00.29 | JeffM | the directory re-org should still build fine, I updated the make systems. |
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| 22:03.10 | Epyon | bison : can't open `parser.y': No such file or directory |
| 22:03.30 | Epyon | I'll fix that too |
| 22:03.50 | JeffM | bison runs from the working dir? |
| 22:03.52 | JeffM | or the root? |
| 22:04.11 | Epyon | I was going to ask that actually :/ |
| 22:04.23 | JeffM | it says it can't find it? |
| 22:04.32 | Epyon | yep |
| 22:04.40 | JeffM | add ..\..\ before the input file and see if that helps |
| 22:04.46 | JeffM | custom steps are "fun" |
| 22:07.17 | Epyon | ok fixed it |
| 22:08.06 | Epyon | lol, but even though I didn't change the parser lexer files he wants to commit them :/ |
| 22:09.20 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15236 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/VC8/bzlgen.vcproj: Fixed custom build steps |
| 22:09.31 | JeffM | he? |
| 22:09.49 | Epyon | What should I do, commit the newly generated lexer parser files? :? |
| 22:10.06 | JeffM | it's cus I added a #def to it |
| 22:10.08 | JeffM | and no |
| 22:10.17 | JeffM | just rever them |
| 22:10.24 | JeffM | and then build debug |
| 22:10.27 | JeffM | not debug(bison) |
| 22:10.31 | Epyon | no no |
| 22:10.37 | JeffM | did they change? |
| 22:10.37 | Epyon | because they changed |
| 22:10.40 | Epyon | Yes |
| 22:10.42 | JeffM | oh then yeah update them |
| 22:10.52 | Epyon | The #line defs have proper paths now. |
| 22:11.50 | JeffM | hardcoded paths in those parser files? |
| 22:12.01 | Epyon | No, relative |
| 22:12.08 | JeffM | to what? |
| 22:12.18 | Epyon | No idea :/ |
| 22:12.19 | JeffM | but they are hardcoded right? |
| 22:12.25 | Epyon | That is? |
| 22:12.33 | JeffM | the code has the path |
| 22:12.42 | Epyon | yep |
| 22:12.46 | JeffM | eww |
| 22:12.54 | Epyon | -#line 94 "parser.y" |
| 22:12.54 | Epyon | +#line 94 "..\\..\\parser.y" |
| 22:13.13 | Epyon | It's so the compiler knows where to show errors when they apperar |
| 22:14.17 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15237 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/Operation.h: Fixed the sideways building bug - OperationAssert didn't return proper face value |
| 22:16.46 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15238 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/ (lexer.cxx parser.cxx parser.hxx): New generation of bison/flex files. |
| 22:19.41 | JeffM | oh and is it BZWgen, or BZlgen? |
| 22:19.51 | Epyon | JeffM, no one knows :) |
| 22:19.56 | Epyon | Neither to I actually :D |
| 22:19.57 | JeffM | what is it suposed to be? |
| 22:20.06 | Epyon | I think bzwgen |
| 22:20.06 | JeffM | I'm being serious |
| 22:20.12 | JeffM | then your projects are wrong |
| 22:20.16 | Epyon | I know. |
| 22:20.31 | JeffM | you gonna fix them? |
| 22:20.44 | Epyon | No idea how to cleanly fix that though not to do a mess in SVN |
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| 22:21.19 | JeffM | never a better time to learn |
| 22:21.29 | Epyon | I can do that but I can make a mess. |
| 22:23.18 | Erroneous | Epyon: svn rename |
| 22:23.48 | Erroneous | should do everything for you (except actually fix the projects) |
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| 22:24.20 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15239 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/lexer.cxx: unistd does not exist on windows |
| 22:25.18 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15240 10/trunk/bzwgen/README: add notes on what to do when committing lexer.cxx |
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| 22:27.13 | Epyon | dammit JeffM2501, you plan on making me hand edit lexer.cxx on each commit? -_- |
| 22:27.24 | JeffM | it is sad that we have to, but yes |
| 22:27.48 | Epyon | this is inacceptable. |
| 22:27.49 | Erroneous | why not check in a blank file named unistd.h in the msvc dir? |
| 22:28.00 | Epyon | Erroneous, wont work, I tried |
| 22:28.05 | Epyon | Because of the <> tags |
| 22:28.08 | JeffM | Erroneous, it's a <> |
| 22:28.10 | JeffM | not a "" |
| 22:28.13 | JeffM | so it checks system |
| 22:28.15 | Erroneous | ah |
| 22:28.18 | JeffM | it's just a bug in your tool |
| 22:28.26 | Epyon | JeffM, not a bug |
| 22:28.26 | JeffM | Epyon, you picked the tool, now we have to deal with it |
| 22:28.41 | Epyon | The tool ships with unistd.h for windows |
| 22:29.01 | Epyon | It would be much better to make people put it into their include folder. |
| 22:29.05 | JeffM | then your use of it introduced it |
| 22:29.19 | Epyon | One time action instead of every commit manual action. |
| 22:29.36 | JeffM | we cam |
| 22:29.43 | JeffM | that is unnaceptable |
| 22:29.57 | JeffM | dependencies are bad |
| 22:30.14 | JeffM | we are devs, we have to do lots of actions every time we commit |
| 22:30.22 | JeffM | and how often are you going to change the language? |
| 22:30.25 | Epyon | Okay, then you'll manualy change the lexer.cxx each time I commit, because I don't intend to do something so time wasting |
| 22:30.41 | JeffM | if you don't do it someone else will |
| 22:30.44 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r15241 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Don't draw the HUD if the world is not yet ready. Fix a segfault. |
| 22:30.50 | Epyon | JeffM, in the next month every day or so. |
| 22:31.02 | JeffM | Epyon, welcome to the real world of development |
| 22:31.15 | JeffM | I'll probalby have a dll interface to your rules in a day or so |
| 22:31.28 | JeffM | Epyon, can you build bison? |
| 22:31.34 | Epyon | JeffM, I'd write in the README instead -- "If you plan on compiling it without the tools installed, then you should change X to Y" |
| 22:31.49 | JeffM | Epyon, I want it to build out of the box |
| 22:31.52 | JeffM | deal with it |
| 22:32.04 | JeffM | we are trying to get all our code to build out of the box the best we can |
| 22:32.14 | Epyon | I'll deal with you wanting it, but I don't plan on changing that each time ;] |
| 22:32.14 | JeffM | we've got all the needed libs for BZ now |
| 22:32.33 | JeffM | do what you will |
| 22:32.40 | JeffM | we can not force you to do anything |
| 22:33.12 | Epyon | Darn, too bad that windows default console is to weak to do file edition :/ |
| 22:33.21 | JeffM | huh? |
| 22:33.37 | Epyon | JeffM, to automate that process during "Build" |
| 22:33.45 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15242 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:33.45 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: don't need a typedef for something that is just a pointer. |
| 22:33.45 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: start stubing out a plug-in API. |
| 22:33.46 | JeffM | write an app |
| 22:33.59 | JeffM | like we did for man2HTML |
| 22:34.11 | JeffM | or fix bison to give it an option |
| 22:34.37 | Epyon | JeffM, if I fix bision, it will build only with my own bison then. |
| 22:34.54 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15243 10/trunk/bzwgen/TODO: it's more then just "I" now |
| 22:35.06 | JeffM | Epyon, that is why you submit the fix as a patch to them, so they get it into the mainline |
| 22:35.25 | JeffM | open source and all ya know |
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| 22:36.10 | Epyon | JeffM, that would break bison :P |
| 22:36.17 | JeffM | *sigh* |
| 22:36.26 | JeffM | not if you made it a command line option |
| 22:36.26 | Epyon | hmm |
| 22:36.29 | JeffM | -nounistd |
| 22:36.36 | JeffM | or something |
| 22:36.40 | JeffM | then existing uses woudl run fine |
| 22:36.44 | JeffM | and on windows you pass that in |
| 22:36.49 | Epyon | JeffM, and break compatibility with Linux bision? |
| 22:36.56 | JeffM | who cares |
| 22:37.01 | Epyon | They care |
| 22:37.03 | JeffM | obviously it dosn't do anything in there |
| 22:37.07 | JeffM | have you talked to them? |
| 22:37.10 | Epyon | JeffM, it does |
| 22:37.18 | JeffM | then how does it compile without it? |
| 22:37.18 | Epyon | It does when in interactive mode |
| 22:37.29 | JeffM | then make a -noInteractive ;) |
| 22:37.39 | JeffM | or don't do anything |
| 22:37.43 | Epyon | And break compatibility? :P |
| 22:38.06 | Erroneous | JeffM: did you make the bison/no-bison build configuration changes for bc8? |
| 22:38.07 | JeffM | no, you'd take out the interactive mode as an OPTION |
| 22:38.12 | JeffM | Erroneous, no |
| 22:38.22 | JeffM | Epyon, then linux coudl also have that option |
| 22:38.29 | JeffM | but it's just an idea |
| 22:38.32 | JeffM | and your fighing it |
| 22:38.35 | JeffM | so don't worry about it |
| 22:38.46 | JeffM | is your language documented yet? |
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| 22:39.21 | Epyon | The problem is that lexer.cxx doesn't have a template. Bison does. |
| 22:39.53 | JeffM | like I said, if your not willing to make the change, don't worry about it |
| 22:40.03 | JeffM | I was throwing out ideas, just as you were |
| 22:40.10 | JeffM | is your language documented? |
| 22:40.49 | Epyon | JeffM, this is going to get annoying for me really quick -- each update I download a modified lexer.cxx, then on compilation I recompile it, and can't do svn commit, but svn commit and list all the files I changed. |
| 22:40.54 | Epyon | This is absurd. |
| 22:41.20 | JeffM | well, what other solution do you have that dosn't have a dependency? |
| 22:41.29 | JeffM | I've been trying to discuss them with you |
| 22:42.23 | Epyon | Anyway, I don't see anyone willing to download bzwgen and not set up bison/flex unless doing a simple bugfix in the interface. |
| 22:42.32 | JeffM | I'm not trying to be dificult, I'm trying to find a soltuion that fits both our needs |
| 22:42.43 | JeffM | you don't want to edit, I dont' want everyone to have to install a dependency. |
| 22:42.56 | JeffM | Epyon, I do |
| 22:43.04 | JeffM | and it's a goal we are trying to get to |
| 22:43.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r15244 10/trunk/bzwgen/MSVC/unistd.h: |
| 22:43.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: works fine thx. commit blank unistd.h. |
| 22:43.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: From MSDN: "Angle-bracket for: This form instructs the preprocessor to search |
| 22:43.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: for include files first along the path specified by the /I compiler option, |
| 22:43.10 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: then, when compiling from the command line, along the path specified by the |
| 22:43.11 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: INCLUDE environment variable." |
| 22:43.12 | Epyon | Basically editing will be a PITA for everyone who will try to work on BZWgen |
| 22:43.14 | JeffM | so it bears discussion solutons |
| 22:43.20 | JeffM | see ;) |
| 22:43.28 | JeffM | discussion good |
| 22:43.35 | Epyon | lol |
| 22:43.41 | Erroneous | now can y'all please shut up? |
| 22:43.47 | Erroneous | :) |
| 22:43.52 | JeffM | you don't have to be so negitive over everything somone says that you don't like ;) |
| 22:43.59 | Epyon | We were arguing and Erroneous was wiser than both of us and just solved the problem :D |
| 22:44.05 | JeffM | indeed |
| 22:44.14 | JeffM | I was trying to solve it by colaboration |
| 22:44.18 | JeffM | silly me |
| 22:44.23 | Epyon | WE should take an example xP |
| 22:44.26 | Erroneous | sometimes the technical solution is the correct solution |
| 22:44.50 | JeffM | hopefully it won't coflict with a system defined one |
| 22:45.04 | Erroneous | it will override a system defined one, on windows |
| 22:45.07 | Erroneous | no effect on non-windows |
| 22:45.29 | JeffM | so as long as this app dosn't use it, we are cool |
| 22:45.58 | Epyon | JeffM, it wont. The language couldn't be used interactively anyway. |
| 22:46.09 | JeffM | then we are good |
| 22:46.23 | Erroneous | yup. if we do start using it, we can replace it with one that actually works (like "#include <io.h>" ;) ) |
| 22:46.32 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r15245 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (MSVC/lexer.cxx README): don't need to edit out unistd on windows anymore |
| 22:46.50 | JeffM | ok, now. is the language documented anywhere Epyon ? |
| 22:47.13 | Epyon | Not yet. But it will be before the 30th probably |
| 22:47.26 | JeffM | can you document it as is so far, before you extend it? |
| 22:47.41 | Erroneous | "probably"? :) |
| 22:47.42 | JeffM | it'll be simpler for people to understand and learn then |
| 22:48.19 | JeffM | and honestly, we would like to see it before you put more work into it, to make sure it's going to be useable by the intendend end users. |
| 22:48.35 | Epyon | I'm not sure wether multifaces won't completely remodel it in terms of basic definitions, so I'd like to do that before the rest. |
| 22:48.52 | JeffM | can you at lease document the basics? |
| 22:49.02 | Erroneous | ok. just make sure it does get done. |
| 22:49.16 | JeffM | others can help you on it now |
| 22:49.26 | Epyon | JeffM, the point is that "the basics" are that the language operates on faces... and that may change :P |
| 22:49.39 | JeffM | yeah but the language has a basic definition |
| 22:49.43 | JeffM | like what does a : do, etc.. |
| 22:49.50 | Epyon | JeffM, which may change. |
| 22:49.56 | JeffM | ugg |
| 22:50.02 | Epyon | :? |
| 22:50.24 | JeffM | the : is more then a simple delimnator? and has logic that may change? |
| 22:50.42 | Epyon | I can write a quick "programmers guide to ..." if that's what you wish. |
| 22:50.47 | JeffM | anything |
| 22:50.49 | JeffM | we are in the dark here |
| 22:50.51 | Epyon | kk |
| 22:53.02 | JeffM | Erroneous, what is the legality of slaping a premade OSG in a source tree and then linking to the sources? |
| 22:53.12 | Erroneous | questionable at best |
| 22:53.16 | JeffM | k |
| 22:53.28 | Epyon | OSG? |
| 22:53.28 | JeffM | and I'm betting OSG is too big to do a src/other thing? |
| 22:53.35 | JeffM | OpenSceenGraph? |
| 22:53.38 | Erroneous | if we dropped the build sources in, it would probably be ok |
| 22:53.53 | JeffM | build sources? |
| 22:54.00 | Erroneous | the sources we built from |
| 22:54.02 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:54.06 | JeffM | wonder how big that is? |
| 22:54.10 | Erroneous | not necessarily the same as the official sources |
| 22:54.25 | JeffM | maybe we can do a Win32 dependecy page then |
| 22:54.36 | JeffM | with our built lib and the sources we used |
| 22:54.44 | Erroneous | if you're just thinking for bzwb, including it shouldn't be a big deal |
| 22:54.48 | JeffM | they don't have to be in the same package right? just like on the same web page |
| 22:54.54 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 22:54.55 | JeffM | yeah for wb |
| 22:54.56 | JeffM | k |
| 22:55.09 | JeffM | it's got the bigest dependency in that right there. |
| 22:55.19 | Erroneous | yup |
| 22:55.34 | JeffM | it need anything else? |
| 22:55.37 | Erroneous | fltk |
| 22:55.46 | JeffM | they have premade bins for that? |
| 22:55.55 | JeffM | as I assume it's decently big too? |
| 22:55.57 | Erroneous | no, but it's an easy/clean build |
| 22:56.02 | JeffM | k |
| 22:56.02 | Erroneous | and not terribly large |
| 22:56.20 | JeffM | well if we are going to do a OSG on a page, we can slap a premade FLTK there too |
| 22:57.05 | JeffM | at lesat those dependcies seem cleaner then the old gtk bzedit :) |
| 22:57.13 | Erroneous | without forking osg, the build process for bzwb is always going to be somewhat painful |
| 22:57.36 | JeffM | that's why I'm thinking we just make a lib |
| 22:58.05 | JeffM | and just make it look for it |
| 22:58.10 | JeffM | in a MSVC dir |
| 22:58.34 | Erroneous | end up needing four copies of it then (7/8[D]) |
| 22:59.12 | JeffM | if it's dll, can we link a vc8 lib into vc7.1? |
| 23:00.13 | Erroneous | as long as a) you don't try to debug it, b) they don't try to do any polymorphic objects, and c) vc7 is set to MT DLL, yes |
| 23:00.23 | Erroneous | and if you're ok with requiring vc8 runtimes |
| 23:01.55 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15246 10/trunk/bzwgen/README: Building on Windows with flex/bison |
| 23:02.35 | JeffM | well for BZWB maybe it's best if we just support VC8 |
| 23:02.49 | JeffM | it'll make it simpler |
| 23:02.52 | Epyon | JeffM, I'll try to consistently rename the whole project to bzlgen if I mess something up you'll have to help :P |
| 23:03.14 | JeffM | we can always revert |
| 23:03.32 | Erroneous | should be fairly simple. svn rename the project/solution files, then do search and replace. |
| 23:03.46 | Erroneous | make sure it builds, then commit it |
| 23:03.47 | JeffM | guess it's time to install 8 on the laptop :) |
| 23:04.59 | JeffM | or if we do a VC71 project, make them get there own OSG/FTGL |
| 23:05.02 | Erroneous | actually osg's binary distribution ought to work on |
| 23:05.08 | Erroneous | 7 |
| 23:05.22 | JeffM | if we can make it simple for VCEE users, thats the big one |
| 23:05.38 | JeffM | the binary distro is bugy and crashes |
| 23:05.39 | JeffM | remember |
| 23:06.04 | Erroneous | ah. I thought that was just 'cause I was trying to link it into 8 :) |
| 23:06.12 | JeffM | it kept crashing for me |
| 23:06.19 | JeffM | you said it did that untill you built yourself |
| 23:06.23 | Erroneous | sounds like they have "deeper problems" |
| 23:06.27 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:06.48 | JeffM | replace it all with lightfeather :) |
| 23:07.08 | Erroneous | gotta admit this whole experience makes me definitely rethink wanting to use it for bz :) |
| 23:07.27 | JeffM | it's a "special" library |
| 23:07.46 | JeffM | you can kinda guess a libs history by looking at it's API and build system :) |
| 23:07.46 | Erroneous | could get better later too. remember, this is a ".0" release |
| 23:08.27 | L4m3r | there have been MUCH bigger issues with respect to serving on Windows ;) |
| 23:08.32 | Erroneous | I like most of the API |
| 23:08.47 | L4m3r | it's not like we're breaking the client |
| 23:08.49 | Erroneous | L4m3r: we're talking about bzwb and the client...no servage involved |
| 23:08.58 | L4m3r | oh |
| 23:09.02 | JeffM | yeah if you have a slick techincaly C++ API + crap build system. then that means it came from a school or research place :) |
| 23:09.13 | Erroneous | yup :) |
| 23:09.23 | Erroneous | it's very c++ |
| 23:09.31 | Erroneous | and a very crap build system |
| 23:09.34 | JeffM | if it's a moderately clean API and a decent build system, then it's people who want to get into the game industry |
| 23:09.55 | JeffM | if it's a COMPLETELY crap API/code and a butt simple build system, it's production code from ID |
| 23:10.03 | L4m3r | lol |
| 23:10.04 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:10.25 | JeffM | the quake codebases have to be the worst examples of code I've ever seen |
| 23:10.45 | Epyon | Hmm that should be all. |
| 23:10.57 | Erroneous | depends how you measure "worst" |
| 23:10.58 | Epyon | I also modified the installer files |
| 23:11.02 | Erroneous | least maintainable...totally agree |
| 23:11.22 | JeffM | I mean code for code, not for what it does |
| 23:11.44 | JeffM | Epyon, to do what? |
| 23:11.48 | Erroneous | yeah. maintainability/cleanliness/etc, it's very bad. lots of hacks and assumptions |
| 23:12.19 | JeffM | engine wise, the q3 shader system was slightly ahead of it's time, and a good thing to have for end user mods |
| 23:12.25 | JeffM | but it didn't hold long engough |
| 23:12.27 | Epyon | JeffM, bzlgen -> bzwgen |
| 23:12.38 | JeffM | and BSPs were showing there age |
| 23:12.41 | JeffM | Epyon, ahh fun |
| 23:12.48 | JeffM | global seach and replace should have done it for ya |
| 23:12.48 | Erroneous | there's something to be said for being fast, stable, and moddable, though. |
| 23:13.02 | JeffM | well it wasn't that fast on larger maps |
| 23:13.11 | JeffM | UT is/was much more modable |
| 23:13.24 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r15247 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (13 files in 4 dirs): bzlgen -> bzwgen |
| 23:13.25 | JeffM | and a lot faster in nearly all maps |
| 23:13.32 | Erroneous | 'twas possible to write maps that were very fast |
| 23:13.43 | JeffM | sure, small ones ;) |
| 23:13.44 | Epyon | No other GSoC students online? o.O |
| 23:13.44 | Erroneous | even when they had lots of objects |
| 23:13.54 | Erroneous | just no tools would do it automatically |
| 23:13.59 | Epyon | I thought we'd have a beer party today xP |
| 23:14.00 | Winny | Epyon: I ate them all |
| 23:14.03 | JeffM | portals FTW |
| 23:14.08 | Epyon | Winny, textures xP |
| 23:14.38 | JeffM | BZ's world could so use portals :) |
| 23:14.49 | Erroneous | ut is/was buggy and unstable in my experience |
| 23:14.58 | JeffM | I never had issue with it |
| 23:14.59 | Erroneous | I always preferred working with id stuff |
| 23:15.11 | JeffM | maping in UT just made sense to me |
| 23:15.21 | JeffM | subtracting things from the world to make rooms |
| 23:15.32 | Erroneous | always seemed backwards to me |
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| 23:16.02 | JeffM | well the bots were better in UT :) |
| 23:16.06 | JeffM | that's for sure |
| 23:16.06 | Erroneous | that is true |
| 23:16.25 | JeffM | turn em up high enough and they give you orders |
| 23:16.32 | Erroneous | graphics were generally better too |
| 23:16.47 | Erroneous | though that's always hard to judge when they stagger releases |
| 23:16.53 | JeffM | I was also geting sick of the "style" of the id art |
| 23:17.02 | JeffM | metal and blood.. been there seen that |
| 23:17.06 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:17.28 | JeffM | underground submarine base...ok that was new and a nice change :) |
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| 23:18.15 | JeffM | you get sick of runing around midevil casstles with an impressive number of ramps at some point :) |
| 23:18.36 | Erroneous | that's what mods are for :) |
| 23:18.41 | JeffM | indeed |
| 23:18.58 | JeffM | but come on, one assult map was ON A MOVING TRAIN.. how cool is that? |
| 23:19.00 | Erroneous | id's games without mods or derivatives would be practically worthless |
| 23:19.09 | JeffM | id should stick to just making engines. |
| 23:19.27 | Epyon | Erroneous, no, Doom 1 would hold on it's own :) |
| 23:19.40 | JeffM | untill you played marathon ;) |
| 23:19.54 | L4m3r | Doom 2 was better |
| 23:19.57 | Erroneous | Epyon: but compare doom to heretic. same engine; heretic is a WAY better game |
| 23:20.12 | Epyon | Erroneous, I'll never agree :) |
| 23:20.25 | Epyon | Doom had a irreplacable mood. |
| 23:20.25 | L4m3r | double-barreled shotgun and machinegun jerks were a nice addition |
| 23:20.55 | Epyon | L4m3r, true, but it's Doom 1 that was first. Also Doom 1 had a better stort/mood. |
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| 23:21.04 | Winny | anyone know how to fix this? bzfs: relocation error: /home/winxp/plugins/recordmatch.so: undefined symbol: _Z13bz_stopRecBufv |
| 23:21.07 | JeffM | pffff... ONE shotgun... marathon2 had 2 shotguns at the same time :) |
| 23:21.12 | L4m3r | the episodic nature of D1 was good |
| 23:21.30 | Erroneous | marathon ftw :) |
| 23:21.36 | Erroneous | now THAT was mapping that made sense |
| 23:21.42 | JeffM | and it had "GASP" a story |
| 23:21.46 | Erroneous | indeed |
| 23:21.47 | L4m3r | Final doom had some pretty gnarly levels too |
| 23:21.56 | Epyon | Erroneous, for me the best mapping was in Jedi Knight: Mystery of the Sith |
| 23:22.00 | JeffM | Erroneous, it was a 2d version of what UT does ;) |
| 23:22.13 | Epyon | Mysteries* |
| 23:22.35 | JeffM | Winny, your BZFS is too old |
| 23:22.38 | tupone | hi orchid |
| 23:22.38 | Epyon | And Dark Forces had pretty good maps itself. |
| 23:22.49 | orchid | ciao tupone |
| 23:22.50 | Winny | JeffM: ... its was suppostly built last week |
| 23:23.05 | JeffM | it dosn't have the function that the plug-in is looking for |
| 23:23.19 | JeffM | basicly there is a mismatch of some sort |
| 23:23.20 | Erroneous | the DF engine was not the best to map for. lots of restrictions. |
| 23:23.23 | JeffM | I'd build both of them clean |
| 23:23.35 | Erroneous | good games though |
| 23:23.41 | Epyon | JeffM, in what form would you like documentation for the language most? |
| 23:23.49 | JeffM | was that the build engine, or the q2? |
| 23:23.51 | JeffM | Epyon, readable |
| 23:23.51 | Erroneous | a text file would be fine |
| 23:23.56 | Epyon | plaintext, tex, html, pdf> |
| 23:24.00 | JeffM | readable |
| 23:24.04 | JeffM | and editable |
| 23:24.05 | Epyon | lol |
| 23:24.09 | L4m3r | anything but PDF |
| 23:24.11 | L4m3r | :) |
| 23:24.11 | JeffM | the format is bikeshed |
| 23:24.26 | JeffM | heck, wiki pages would even work |
| 23:24.39 | Erroneous | JeffM: LucasArt's internal fps from the time. dunno what they called it. DF, JK1, MOTS, Outlaws, etc, all used it |
| 23:24.42 | Epyon | I'll stay with plaintext and write a converter in ruby. |
| 23:24.50 | Winny | alright, thanks JeffM |
| 23:25.01 | JeffM | Erroneous, one of them used the q3 engine |
| 23:25.12 | JeffM | JK2? |
| 23:25.15 | Erroneous | JK2 and JK3 used q3 |
| 23:25.31 | Epyon | Erroneous, but Jedi Knight and Dark Forces used their own. |
| 23:25.39 | JeffM | that's what he said |
| 23:25.42 | Erroneous | yes, as I said |
| 23:25.56 | Epyon | sorry ^_^ |
| 23:26.36 | Epyon | Erroneous, but DF was great -- ahead of it's time in terms of mapping I'd say :> |
| 23:26.44 | Erroneous | also used by several less notable LucasArts titles from that period (Outlaws is the one I remember best, 'cause my dad played it a lot) |
| 23:48.08 | TD-Linux | Epyon, I ran the map generator and played on the resulting map |
| 23:48.12 | TD-Linux | two things |
| 23:48.20 | TD-Linux | 1) you really should upload your textures sometime |
| 23:48.35 | Epyon | Textures? |
| 23:48.43 | Epyon | But they're in the media folder o.O |
| 23:48.58 | TD-Linux | but you still have to copy them to the bzflag client :( |
| 23:49.02 | Epyon | Except for the grass which is in bzflag folder. |
| 23:49.19 | Epyon | If you tell me how to do that I'll do that :) |
| 23:49.40 | TD-Linux | for the amount of textures you have, I would suggest maybe finding someone with webspace at *.bzflag.org |
| 23:49.54 | TD-Linux | there is also an uploading form at images.bzflag.org I think. |
| 23:51.09 | Constitution | TD-Linux: the images are already online at http://fairserve.bzflag.org/bzimages/bzwgen/ |
| 23:51.29 | TD-Linux | Epyon, then you just have to chage your code |
| 23:51.33 | TD-Linux | *change |
| 23:51.40 | TD-Linux | the test.set or whatever |
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| 23:52.47 | TD-Linux | hmm actually I think the texture paths are hard-coded in |
| 23:53.36 | TD-Linux | no -h or --help :( |
| 23:54.37 | TD-Linux | nope, there isn't anything there to set it :( |
| 23:55.05 | Epyon | -h and --help is there, but it doesn't work on linux yet. |
| 23:55.33 | JeffM | dude, I made the only changes I could see |
| 23:55.42 | JeffM | and it's not like I have linux here |
| 23:55.52 | Epyon | Neither have I :? |
| 23:55.54 | Epyon | :/ |
| 23:56.01 | JeffM | then help someone debug it |
| 23:56.46 | TD-Linux | meeeeeeeee |
| 23:56.50 | TD-Linux | should I uncomment the magic lines? |
| 23:56.55 | Epyon | JeffM, I'm currently writing doc for the language. |
| 23:57.06 | JeffM | magic lines? |
| 23:58.16 | TD-Linux | odd |
| 23:58.23 | TD-Linux | the code to check for -h and --help is there |
| 23:58.29 | TD-Linux | it's just not seeing them?? |
| 23:58.52 | JeffM | I can debug it later tonight |
| 23:58.57 | JeffM | -- will never work |
| 23:59.04 | JeffM | it's all just - |
| 23:59.12 | TD-Linux | hmm |
| 23:59.23 | TD-Linux | it doesn't look like that to mee |
| 23:59.49 | JeffM | I wrote the code |
| 23:59.56 | JeffM | the argument parser dosn't do -- |
| 23:59.59 | JeffM | it only does - |
