| 00:01.56 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r14863 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (14 files): common.h renamed to globals.h to avoid conflict with bzflag source files |
| 00:03.10 | siggraph | did you look for globals.h? :) |
| 00:03.19 | siggraph | there is one in include/ |
| 00:03.25 | Epyon | ... |
| 00:04.07 | Epyon | No, there's global.h -_- |
| 00:04.46 | Epyon | http://pastebin.ca/650509 , does this look ... hmm ... ok? xP |
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| 00:09.32 | siggraph | sushi:~/BZ/bzflag morrison$ ls -la include/global.h |
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| 00:09.38 | jude- | hello all |
| 00:09.39 | siggraph | -rw-r--r-- 1 morrison morrison 3282 Apr 28 18:07 include/global.h |
| 00:10.03 | Epyon | Wierd, I don't have one |
| 00:10.49 | siggraph | ehm, there's been a global.h for years |
| 00:10.55 | siggraph | what are you working on? |
| 00:11.05 | Erroneous | em, didn't Epyon rename his global*s*.h? |
| 00:11.14 | Epyon | global, not global*s* :P |
| 00:11.27 | Erroneous | then yeah, we already have a global :) |
| 00:11.41 | Epyon | I renamed to globals :P |
| 00:11.46 | Erroneous | that's what I said |
| 00:12.01 | Epyon | But siggraph showed that there is a global :P |
| 00:12.05 | Erroneous | yes |
| 00:12.13 | Epyon | So I'm clear :) |
| 00:12.14 | siggraph | yes, we both said the wrong thing |
| 00:12.22 | Erroneous | k, I was gettin' confused there |
| 00:12.29 | Epyon | Me too xP |
| 00:12.55 | jude- | woo! got Google money today! |
| 00:13.05 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
| 00:13.32 | jude- | (took them long enough) |
| 00:13.34 | Erroneous | hm, nine days, not too bad. |
| 00:13.41 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
| 00:13.54 | CBG | is it done now? |
| 00:14.24 | Erroneous | actually I guess more like 24 days for you huh |
| 00:14.30 | jude- | they were supposed to send it July 9th |
| 00:14.36 | Erroneous | 15th? |
| 00:14.42 | jude- | er, 15th |
| 00:14.49 | Erroneous | yeah :) |
| 00:15.01 | Erroneous | hey, they took close to three months for mine :) |
| 00:15.15 | jude- | isn't that a breach of contract? |
| 00:15.30 | Erroneous | there's no contract |
| 00:15.39 | Erroneous | at least, wasn't for us |
| 00:15.57 | jude- | it says in the terms and conditions that Google will send payments "soon after successful review" |
| 00:16.03 | Erroneous | and we got it all at once, not in three chunks |
| 00:16.04 | CBG | contract shmontract. |
| 00:16.13 | CBG | All that matters is... is it done yet?! :P |
| 00:16.20 | Erroneous | 'twas rather ironic to get the stipend months after finishing the project :) |
| 00:16.30 | jude- | CBG: it will be close to being done by the 31st |
| 00:16.37 | CBG | thats.... |
| 00:16.39 | Erroneous | they were very confused that year |
| 00:16.39 | jude- | heh--that's kinda strange |
| 00:16.44 | CBG | 22 days away!! |
| 00:17.03 | Erroneous | I don't think they realized QUITE how complicated it was gonna be |
| 00:17.03 | jude- | ...and come August 31st, other coders will be able to start contributing to BZWB |
| 00:17.25 | jude- | Erroneous: yeah, they've been having a bit of a difficult time :/ |
| 00:17.44 | jude- | some people on the mailing list are still waiting for their "start-of-coding" surprise stll |
| 00:17.49 | CBG | I'd prefer if it was simply done now. :P |
| 00:17.55 | Erroneous | a difficult time, and they've had two years of practice |
| 00:18.00 | Erroneous | we were the first year ;) |
| 00:18.28 | CBG | "we"? someone else here took part in gsoc the first you, Erroneous ? |
| 00:18.42 | jude- | turns out in Arizona (and nowhere else) it's illegal to send over $500/week via Western Union |
| 00:18.46 | Erroneous | yeah, about two hundred others or so |
| 00:18.48 | jude- | ...and they didn't know that :) |
| 00:19.02 | CBG | Erroneous: someone else "here"... #bzflag. |
| 00:19.18 | Erroneous | CBG: that's not who *I* meant by "we" |
| 00:19.18 | CBG | Please correct me if there are over 200 users in this channel. :) |
| 00:19.40 | CBG | Erroneous: ok. The "we" suggested to me that there was someone else here... hence why I asked. |
| 00:20.06 | Erroneous | there may well be |
| 00:20.22 | Erroneous | but not that I'm aware of |
| 00:20.42 | CBG | Ok.. :) |
| 00:20.51 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14864 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (17 files in 6 dirs): |
| 00:20.51 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: Did some more work on material handling (i.e. gave objects the ability to save their OpenGL state sets when marked selected, etc), |
| 00:20.51 | CIA-23 | BZFlag: cleaned up some code. |
| 00:21.00 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
| 00:21.08 | Erroneous | ~karma jude- |
| 00:21.08 | ibot | jude- has karma of 93 |
| 00:21.16 | Erroneous | not bad for three months :) |
| 00:21.25 | CBG | gotta be about 60 of that from me :D |
| 00:21.30 | jude- | indeed |
| 00:21.34 | CBG | he gets karma just for signing on ;) |
| 00:21.34 | jude- | ~CBG++ |
| 00:21.39 | CBG | ewwww |
| 00:21.47 | Epyon | About 5 times as much as me xP |
| 00:21.49 | jude- | want negative karma instead? |
| 00:21.49 | a_meteorite | ~CBG-- |
| 00:22.00 | Epyon | ~karma CBG |
| 00:22.00 | ibot | cbg has karma of -434 |
| 00:22.01 | CBG | neither :P |
| 00:22.03 | Epyon | lol |
| 00:22.09 | CBG | it's like you're... touching me |
| 00:22.12 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 00:22.16 | CBG | down... there... |
| 00:23.05 | a_meteorite | CBG heard something go *thump!* in the night and has been afraid ever since. |
| 00:23.21 | CBG | wasn't so much a thump... |
| 00:29.11 | CBG | Damn this catchy techno crap! |
| 00:33.12 | Epyon | CBG, youre drunk? xP |
| 00:33.23 | CBG | Pff... I don't drink. |
| 00:33.54 | CBG | Except that one "white-chocolate" flavoured shot on Sunday, which in reality smelt like paint and didn't taste much better. |
| 00:36.54 | CBG | Well, if there was, I would love to know. I got a job yesterday, 90 minutes after the interview... |
| 00:37.14 | jude- | if they did a drug test as part of the interview, you'll find out soon enough :) |
| 00:37.49 | CBG | I'll buy the stuff by the gallon. :D |
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| 01:09.58 | AAA_awright | I've made a script that tells you when people are most likely to be playing on BZFlag: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/graph.3/player/AAA |
| 01:10.15 | AAA_awright | jude-: You use jude- when playing? |
| 01:10.23 | jude- | AAA_awright: yes |
| 01:11.19 | AAA_awright | This is a cool looking one: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/graph.3/player/R3laX |
| 01:13.06 | jude- | that guy's pretty committed to the game |
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| 01:26.29 | Daveman | yo berlcad |
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| 02:27.50 | spldart | forrestbw34... racial slander, disruption |
| 02:28.06 | spldart | in particular anti african-american slander |
| 02:28.23 | spldart | 2castles server.. just a heads up |
| 02:29.25 | spldart | BZFl@G seems to be drawing the wrong 373M3NT lately |
| 02:29.39 | a_meteorite | is he banned? |
| 02:29.53 | a_meteorite | if not, I got him |
| 02:30.04 | spldart | He's active on servers @ the moment I typed that |
| 02:30.14 | a_meteorite | ok |
| 02:30.49 | spldart | I'm not a cop nor do I have servers anymore but yeah... he typed something to the effect ' I hate Ni@@... blay blah.' or some such thing... check the logs for details |
| 02:31.19 | spldart | IIRC he was also making cheat accusations before that but I thought he was legit up to that moment... |
| 02:31.22 | a_meteorite | he's gone :( |
| 02:31.29 | spldart | again... check logs pweese |
| 02:31.33 | a_meteorite | I can't. |
| 02:31.51 | spldart | ah... then please bring it to server attn... if you have that power |
| 02:33.11 | a_meteorite | will do |
| 02:33.54 | spldart | Was a pretty good game too :~), ah well... off to find another |
| 02:36.36 | L4m3r | DTRemenak and/or JeffM: ping |
| 02:47.27 | spldart | nIGHTY night |
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| 13:10.30 | argiopeweb | What is the method that BZFS uses for handling network connection? |
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| 13:46.13 | CBG | Say I have changed the texture of the GroundMaterial and the ground is under some huge objects so it's completely black... Will any material parameters lighten it up at all? |
| 13:48.05 | L4m3r | disable shadows on the objects? |
| 13:48.24 | CBG | ooh? /me looks how to do that |
| 13:48.42 | L4m3r | material property |
| 13:49.09 | CBG | I don't see it here.. http://my.bzflag.org/w/Material |
| 13:49.55 | L4m3r | noshadow, iirc |
| 13:50.04 | L4m3r | interesting that noradar is not on that page either |
| 13:50.21 | CBG | and it goes in the material, not the object? |
| 13:50.32 | L4m3r | yeah, like noradar |
| 13:50.34 | L4m3r | I think |
| 13:50.45 | CBG | aight, thanks bruv |
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| 19:32.27 | Epyon_ | DTRemenak, Erroneous? |
| 19:32.43 | Erroneous | Epyon_: ? |
| 19:33.38 | Epyon_ | Erroneous, I'm wondering to use lex/yacc to write a parser for the ruleset for generating buildings, and I wonder if that's okay, and searching for opinons on this :/ |
| 19:34.16 | Erroneous | you mean, writing a grammar specifically for world generation rules? |
| 19:34.45 | Epyon_ | http://pastebin.ca/650509 |
| 19:35.00 | Erroneous | so that's a yes? :) |
| 19:35.05 | Erroneous | sounds fine with me |
| 19:35.09 | Epyon_ | This is a grammar that generates three distinct types of skyscrapers. |
| 19:35.17 | Erroneous | if you think it'll help |
| 19:35.40 | Epyon_ | uh, actually not exactly, I forgot the definition of floorcont. |
| 19:36.02 | Epyon_ | The point is that I think it would be bad to try to write a parser/lexer for that by hand :/ |
| 19:37.44 | Epyon_ | Yet it will make the build process more complex, and someone will need to help me with the makefile. |
| 19:39.00 | Erroneous | that's ok, I think. most unixlike systems ship with yacc these days anyway. I'm more interested in how much more difficult it will be on windows. |
| 19:39.16 | Epyon_ | difficult? |
| 19:39.29 | Erroneous | to get it set up and running |
| 19:39.35 | Erroneous | I've never tried |
| 19:39.44 | Epyon_ | Whats difficult in downloading flex and yacc and running them from the command line? |
| 19:40.30 | Erroneous | half the people trying to run bzfs can't figure out how to change directories |
| 19:40.44 | Epyon_ | RUN, not compile :P |
| 19:41.34 | Erroneous | most of those who are trying to compile have difficulty linking, too...there's a reason I put the libcurl stuff in a project :P |
| 19:41.51 | Epyon_ | I'll probably use the cygwin ones. |
| 19:42.05 | Erroneous | so then does cygwin become a build dependency? |
| 19:42.09 | Erroneous | 'cause I don't like that |
| 19:42.27 | Epyon_ | Hmm I see the point. |
| 19:42.59 | Epyon_ | It will build without problems on nixes, but it will require someone to set up lex/yacc first on windows ... |
| 19:43.43 | Erroneous | if there's a reasonable native port that can be called in prebuild events or something, it's not a big deal to require it to be installed |
| 19:44.09 | Epyon_ | what do you mean by "native port"? |
| 19:44.21 | Erroneous | meaning, standalone windows executables |
| 19:44.34 | Epyon_ | I could always just provide the generated files instead of the yacc/lex sources. |
| 19:44.44 | Epyon_ | (along with...) |
| 19:44.49 | Erroneous | that is another option...just check in the generated files at the same time |
| 19:45.17 | Erroneous | and that'd be what I'd recommend if there's no "nice" way to set it up for clueless-windows-users |
| 19:45.39 | Epyon_ | A clueless windows user wont be able to compile it anyway. |
| 19:45.53 | Erroneous | why not? |
| 19:46.15 | Erroneous | nearly clueless, anyway |
| 19:46.25 | Epyon_ | He needs to be able to use SVN, and if he does he's not clueless anymore xP |
| 19:46.48 | Erroneous | have you ever *tried* tortoise? you can be pretty dang clueless :) |
| 19:48.07 | Epyon_ | darn, I can't find yacc/lex in the cygrepo :/ |
| 19:50.00 | Erroneous | iirc cygwin prefers flex and bison |
| 19:50.17 | Epyon_ | I don't know bison :/ |
| 19:50.27 | Epyon_ | And I don't have much time to learn. |
| 19:51.08 | Epyon_ | Found flex/bison here : http://www.monmouth.com/~wstreett/lex-yacc/lex-yacc.html |
| 19:51.55 | Erroneous | they're pretty much compatible (ish), iirc |
| 19:52.20 | Erroneous | kinda like really old pc's, that used to advertise "85% PC compatible BIOS" :) |
| 19:52.38 | Chestal | be hip and use boost::spirit :-) |
| 19:52.52 | Epyon_ | bison is also standard in nix distros? |
| 19:53.25 | Erroneous | not terribly |
| 19:53.49 | Epyon_ | but a reasonable requirement for compilation? |
| 19:54.14 | Erroneous | my dragonfly install has bsd yacc with flex, for instance |
| 19:54.33 | Erroneous | best would be to make sure your files work equally well with yacc and bison |
| 19:54.40 | Erroneous | which shouldn't be too difficult |
| 19:55.31 | Erroneous | for dev, sure, just use bison |
| 19:56.15 | Epyon_ | but I guess that as for now I'll include the generated files too. |
| 19:56.59 | Epyon_ | I just hope that VCEE will work without problems with them :/ |
| 19:57.46 | Erroneous | yup, that's another thing you'll have to check |
| 19:58.16 | Epyon_ | My. my that page is SLOOOOOW. |
| 19:59.52 | Chestal | Epyon_: are you familiar with lex/yacc? otherwise I would really look at the alternatives |
| 20:00.13 | Epyon_ | I'm fammiliar with TP Lex and Yacc. |
| 20:00.45 | Epyon_ | Used them in a few projects including a simplified pascal compiler for JVM in FreePascal :) |
| 20:01.56 | Chestal | ok, I guess you'll be quicker then with lex/yacc than spirit or others |
| 20:02.15 | Epyon_ | Yes, and time is a concern |
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| 20:07.55 | Epyon_ | JeffM? |
| 20:08.42 | Epyon_ | JeffM, I get an error while compiling commandArgs.h |
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| 20:39.24 | JeffM | what error? |
| 20:41.14 | Epyon_ | 1>.\commandArgs.cxx(85) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'const char *' to 'char *' |
| 20:41.14 | Epyon_ | 1> Conversion loses qualifiers |
| 20:41.30 | Epyon_ | Line(85)pTemp = strchr(&szCommandLine[pos],'-'); |
| 20:43.07 | JeffM | you can cast it |
| 20:43.15 | JeffM | or make ptemp a const char |
| 20:44.51 | Epyon_ | K, that helped. |
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| 21:04.40 | Epyon_ | JeffM, bzflag still doesnt compile |
| 21:04.42 | Epyon_ | 3>DisplayMenu.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp____GLEW_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic |
| 21:04.42 | Epyon_ | 3>..\..\src\bzflag\debug\bzflag.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals |
| 21:04.50 | Epyon_ | That's the only error left |
| 21:04.58 | JeffM | Epyon_, what target are you building? |
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| 21:05.07 | Epyon_ | glew32 lib is in plac |
| 21:05.10 | JeffM | debug or debug distobution? |
| 21:05.18 | Epyon_ | Debug |
| 21:05.27 | JeffM | deubg should not use glew |
| 21:05.48 | JeffM | open config.h does it have the define _HAVE_GLEW ? |
| 21:06.36 | Epyon_ | Nope |
| 21:08.46 | JeffM | right click on the bzflag project |
| 21:08.51 | JeffM | go to properties |
| 21:08.55 | JeffM | go to C++ |
| 21:08.59 | JeffM | go to preprocessor |
| 21:09.07 | JeffM | in the defines does it have _HAVE_GLEW ? |
| 21:09.41 | Epyon_ | nope |
| 21:10.21 | JeffM | then do a full rebuild, you may just have some bad chaced files from when dtr had debug using glew |
| 21:18.34 | Epyon_ | Ok, JeffM, you can stop to bug me on that now :) |
| 21:18.48 | Epyon_ | 11>bzflag - 0 error(s), 1 warning(s) |
| 21:19.02 | Epyon_ | it runs |
| 21:19.50 | JeffM | good |
| 21:20.19 | Epyon_ | And sorry for the "slight" delay in doing that ;] |
| 21:23.49 | Epyon_ | JeffM, http://pastebin.ca/651596 any idea what I am doing wrong? |
| 21:24.40 | JeffM | did you add OSFile and TextUitls to your project? |
| 21:24.44 | Epyon_ | Yep |
| 21:24.53 | Epyon_ | From the bz source |
| 21:25.28 | JeffM | ahh ahhh ahh |
| 21:25.29 | Epyon_ | but OSFile has "close" not "Close" o.O |
| 21:25.31 | JeffM | yeah from BZ |
| 21:25.33 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:25.39 | JeffM | DTR renamed them |
| 21:25.40 | JeffM | damn |
| 21:25.58 | JeffM | well you can ether use mine then, or port the args thing over to use the bz one |
| 21:26.12 | Erroneous | I was just following our dev guidelines ;) |
| 21:26.39 | Epyon_ | Erroneous, fix the commandlineArgs then to use em :P |
| 21:26.53 | Erroneous | pft, fix it yourself :P |
| 21:27.03 | Erroneous | I dunno anything about commandlineargs |
| 21:27.27 | JeffM | Epyon_, just use the files from OC |
| 21:27.29 | JeffM | it'll be faster |
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| 21:29.52 | Epyon_ | Those TextUtils errors seem to be on their own o.O |
| 21:30.30 | Epyon_ | Aaaah, regexp :P |
| 21:31.46 | JeffM | yeah thats why I say use mine, I didn't use regexp |
| 21:33.01 | Epyon_ | link again? |
| 21:33.51 | Epyon_ | JeffM? |
| 21:34.16 | JeffM | one sec |
| 21:34.21 | Epyon_ | got em |
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| 21:46.16 | Epyon_ | JeffM, what's the format of the files that commandArgs reads? |
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| 21:48.44 | jude- | hello all |
| 21:50.07 | JeffM | IIRC it's -command arg arg arg arg |
| 21:50.25 | JeffM | then a new line per arg |
| 21:50.33 | JeffM | realy it just looks for the - |
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| 22:18.29 | L4m3r | JeffM: ping |
| 22:22.40 | JeffM | sup? |
| 22:24.41 | L4m3r | how's tomorrow gonna work? |
| 22:25.08 | JeffM | I don't know |
| 22:25.40 | JeffM | I'm kinda sick, so I'm not sure what I'll be doing |
| 22:26.14 | L4m3r | eek |
| 22:26.57 | L4m3r | well, I took the whole day off work, so I just need details :P |
| 22:27.35 | JeffM | sportchick and mozull have the day off as well |
| 22:27.47 | JeffM | jbd indicated it would be at 6PM down there |
| 22:27.58 | JeffM | I think he or brlcad should make a wiki page tonight |
| 22:28.15 | JeffM | with all the details |
| 22:28.19 | L4m3r | ok |
| 22:28.29 | L4m3r | guess I should talk to DTR about bumming a ride? :P |
| 22:28.55 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:29.08 | L4m3r | mmk... DTRemenak / Erroneous: ping |
| 22:29.16 | JeffM | I was thinking you guys could meet up with SC and mozul and then all carpool |
| 22:29.25 | JeffM | I was gonna ride my motorbike |
| 22:29.32 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 22:29.52 | JeffM | but since I'm not feeling well, I'm not sure if I want to push myself for 6 hours driving tomorow |
| 22:30.06 | L4m3r | I could probably manage to grab a car, but I'd need some notice |
| 22:30.12 | Erroneous | L4m3r: pong |
| 22:30.25 | L4m3r | ...basically I'd have to get on the bike and start heading towards Wilmington, like, NOW :P |
| 22:30.42 | L4m3r | Erroneous: would it be at all possible to get a ride from you down to SD tomorrow? |
| 22:30.46 | Erroneous | sure |
| 22:30.53 | Erroneous | it's on the way, kinda |
| 22:30.56 | L4m3r | I'm right off the 405 |
| 22:30.58 | Erroneous | yup |
| 22:32.25 | daxxar | What's happening tomorrow? |
| 22:32.55 | JeffM | tomorow we have a meeting of the top devs and players, to decide if we overthrow tim and fork the project |
| 22:33.01 | Erroneous | the 2007 BZFlag Developers Conference |
| 22:33.12 | Erroneous | you're welcome to come - it's in San Diego, CA |
| 22:33.18 | tannerld_mac | heh |
| 22:33.26 | daxxar | Hehe, I'll be there if someone handles my bill ;) |
| 22:33.47 | CBG | Who can lend me $1000? |
| 22:33.58 | JeffM | the bank |
| 22:34.39 | CBG | They wouldn't... and even if they did... interest. :P |
| 22:35.07 | JeffM | you just asked who can |
| 22:35.09 | JeffM | they can |
| 22:35.59 | Erroneous | daxxar: I'll pay your restaraunt bill, if you need me too...the rest is up to you though ;) |
| 22:36.33 | daxxar | ;-) |
| 22:38.44 | Epyon_ | daxxar, I know it's not exactly on the way, but drop by Wroclaw to pick me up once you'll be flying there... considering the overall distance you won't make much additional distance :P |
| 22:39.22 | Epyon_ | Erroneous, you're all from CA? |
| 22:39.28 | daxxar | Haha. :-P |
| 22:39.35 | Erroneous | no...some of us are, others are there for siggraph |
| 22:39.38 | L4m3r | CBG: those loansh-- I mean, "payday advance" places would gladly do it |
| 22:39.56 | L4m3r | I mean, what's a pair of broken legs if you never leave the house anyway? |
| 22:41.13 | L4m3r | oh, and, while we're on the subject, which restaurant are we going to? |
| 22:41.33 | Erroneous | I don't remember...someone should write it down :) |
| 22:41.46 | L4m3r | (food/bill doesn't matter, I'm more wondering what I should wear) :P |
| 22:42.07 | Epyon_ | L4m3r, a TUXedo like every good linux user xP |
| 22:42.10 | Erroneous | hm, I doubt it'd be anything we'd have to wear suits for :P |
| 22:42.52 | L4m3r | keep in mind that I wear shorts and a T-shirt, rain or shine, 365 days a year |
| 22:43.10 | Erroneous | I wear jeans and a hooded sweatshirt, same conditions :P |
| 22:44.10 | L4m3r | Lol, third world |
| 22:44.18 | Erroneous | heh, poland ain't third-world :) |
| 22:44.45 | Epyon_ | Erroneous, well I was asked once in the US will I take food back to Poland xP |
| 22:44.58 | L4m3r | Lol... |
| 22:45.01 | Epyon_ | L4m3r, exactly the point :P |
| 22:45.01 | daxxar | Never been to the US :S |
| 22:45.07 | Erroneous | it's a reasonable question...I was asked the same thing when I was in Australia ;) |
| 22:45.18 | Epyon_ | OMG o.O |
| 22:45.19 | Erroneous | and I'm pretty sure they weren't implying that I was starving |
| 22:45.39 | daxxar | I'd bring home beef jerky if I ever visited the US. Does that count as food? |
| 22:45.47 | Epyon_ | In my case it WAS the implication :P |
| 22:45.49 | Erroneous | different areas have different kinds of foods. if you found something you particularly liked, you might well take some home with you |
| 22:46.13 | Erroneous | jude- should totally come :) |
| 22:46.16 | daxxar | That'd be totally awesome. Beef jerky is hella expensive here. :-P |
| 22:46.23 | jude- | I'd like to come, but i'm working tomorrow :/ |
| 22:46.29 | Erroneous | aw :( |
| 22:46.43 | jude- | 2-10 pm, so I can't even voice/video conference you guys :( |
| 22:46.45 | daxxar | (and only comes in packs of 0.1g, atleast that's the impression Iget) |
| 22:46.49 | daxxar | s/Iget/I get/ |
| 22:47.19 | Erroneous | can't get it off? |
| 22:47.23 | Epyon_ | ETA for downloading bison/flex execs is 4 hours. I heard about sites with bad connection, but this is ridiculous -_- |
| 22:47.31 | jude- | nope :( |
| 22:48.28 | Epyon_ | 40 b/s o.O |
| 22:48.56 | L4m3r | see, that's what I like about my job. if you request a day off, odds are very good that they'll let you go. |
| 22:49.26 | L4m3r | seeing as how most of the employees there will just call in sick if the manager says no. >_< |
| 22:49.32 | daxxar | "let you go" as in "fire you"? |
| 22:49.33 | daxxar | :-P |
| 22:49.42 | CBG | Heh, if I take "a day" off, I'd only work a 3rd of my usual week... |
| 22:49.56 | L4m3r | heh, no, we'd have no employees left, daxxar |
| 22:50.50 | daxxar | Hmm. Some american beef jerky brands ship out of country, perhaps I should buy a few lbs. :-P |
| 22:51.12 | daxxar | wth, Amazon sells food. o.0 |
| 22:51.18 | jude- | lol |
| 22:53.57 | jude- | brb...taking little brother to work |
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| 22:55.56 | TimRiker | JeffM: I'm eager to here how the meeting goes. :) |
| 22:56.15 | Erroneous | heh :) |
| 22:56.18 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation || <JeffM> tomorow we have a meeting of the top devs and players, to decide if we overthrow tim and fork the project |
| 22:56.35 | JeffM | I've got cattle prods and bribe money to make sure it goes well :) |
| 22:57.15 | L4m3r | what, you're going to put us all to work tracking down the players and making them switch? :P |
| 22:57.16 | JeffM | and a brand new whirling death machine |
| 22:57.20 | TimRiker | note that you don't really need to overthrow me to fork the project. you can do that all by yourself. |
| 22:57.30 | JeffM | TimRiker, but that is no fun |
| 22:57.34 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 22:58.05 | TimRiker | perhaps you plan to overthrow the project and stick a fork in me? |
| 22:58.19 | JeffM | or just push you into a pool |
| 22:58.43 | TimRiker | tasty? |
| 22:58.55 | Erroneous | still a bit raw |
| 22:59.02 | daxxar | Hmm |
| 22:59.04 | TimRiker | story of my life. |
| 22:59.12 | daxxar | I think I'll purchase some beef jerky from Amazon. :-P |
| 22:59.16 | daxxar | That oughta be fun. |
| 22:59.29 | TimRiker | careful. you never know where it's been. |
| 22:59.38 | daxxar | :o |
| 22:59.57 | Erroneous | brazil (or surrounding countries), I'd expect ;) |
| 23:00.04 | JeffM | you keep geting more and more GPX code in bzflag, maybe I'm overthowing from the inside |
| 23:00.30 | daxxar | Trying to figure out what brand they have, amazon has darn much beef jerky. :p |
| 23:00.33 | daxxar | s/they/to/ |
| 23:00.46 | CBG | Well, coming from the Amazon, one assumes it's been in South America. |
| 23:01.58 | JeffM | oooo tim may have some |
| 23:02.17 | JeffM | hey TimRiker got any IRIX Cds there you'd mind making an image of? :) |
| 23:02.28 | jude- | care to lend us a few? |
| 23:02.41 | L4m3r | daxxar: just try to avoid that free super-saver shipping... I think even jerky would go bad before it arrived :P |
| 23:02.50 | daxxar | L4m3r: rofl ;P |
| 23:03.10 | Erroneous | jerky's not supposed to go bad :P |
| 23:03.27 | jude- | nor are twinkies, but they have been known to do so :P |
| 23:03.33 | TimRiker | JeffM: nope. I do have an image file around someplace of the cd with bzflag on it. I don't recall where I've backed that up to though. |
| 23:03.45 | JeffM | ahh |
| 23:03.58 | TimRiker | I sold my last SGI before the move from TX. never had my own CD copy of IRIX. |
| 23:04.09 | JeffM | well I have to find out how much of the ram I got for the 02 is bad anyway |
| 23:05.35 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:05.53 | JeffM | maybe |
| 23:06.03 | JeffM | I'll do one at a time and see |
| 23:06.12 | Erroneous | I'm not at all sure about that black plastic stuff they shipped it in |
| 23:06.18 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:15.44 | daxxar | Sigh, Amazon only ships inside the US for beef jerky. :-p |
| 23:16.54 | L4m3r | mad cow disease! |
| 23:17.47 | daxxar | Trying to find a decent online retailer that ships beef jerky internationally, and sells packages with mixed flavors, is harder than it sounds. :p |
| 23:19.23 | L4m3r | order some steaks and a lot of salt and spices, and insist it be shipped by the cheapest USPS option available |
| 23:19.43 | L4m3r | if you're lucky, it just might arrive as jerky. |
| 23:19.49 | jude- | get it on eBay :) |
| 23:19.50 | daxxar | ^_^ |
| 23:21.21 | jude- | no seriously, eBay sells beef jerky, and some of the retailers ship internationally |
| 23:21.31 | daxxar | Checking .co.uk atm :-) |
| 23:21.39 | daxxar | Probably cheaper to ship from the uk |
| 23:22.15 | jude- | indeed |
| 23:22.18 | jude- | where are you shipping to? |
| 23:22.23 | daxxar | Norway |
| 23:25.10 | jude- | hmmm....looking at the prices, I'd say it's probably cheaper to ship from the US |
| 23:25.24 | jude- | you can get more for less |
| 23:25.26 | daxxar | Finding a few that charges £5 from the US |
| 23:26.04 | jude- | but £5 is $10 |
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