| 00:00.19 | Erroneous | brlcad: iirc AAA_awright posted some sort of migration plan, so I suspect replacement is the idea |
| 00:00.28 | strayer | brlcad: so you want a polling system again? AAA_awright's and my systems aren't done for using live stats so far..ergo..completely new design |
| 00:00.47 | AAA_awright | It's near-live stats. |
| 00:01.31 | strayer | nah...10minutes = 600 seconds (or 300 seconds for my site)...during this time wars can be lost |
| 00:01.44 | AAA_awright | Near enough so that the time it takes for a player to see someone is on and join that server is about the same as the refresh time. |
| 00:01.57 | AAA_awright | Which... fine... is far less then 300 seconds. |
| 00:02.33 | strayer | not really...I'm runnign my stats since 1.5 years now and I noticed that 5minutes can be too long in some cases |
| 00:03.06 | tannerld | how come some don't have countries? |
| 00:03.20 | strayer | well...I see the real challenge in a real time system |
| 00:04.10 | strayer | tannerld: you don't always get country information (a problem you always have with provided information) |
| 00:04.10 | Erroneous | AAA_awright: when I refresh the main page, the big activity graph disappears. view image brings up a whole list of php warnings (i.e. "Warning: filemtime() [function.filemtime]: stat failed for /var/www/bzflag.redjacket.ws/html/cache/serveractivity.png in /var/www/bzflag.redjacket.ws/html/pages/graph.serveractivity.php on line 17") |
| 00:04.39 | AAA_awright | Trying to fix that. I am caching certain images that take a while to generate. |
| 00:04.45 | Erroneous | ah |
| 00:04.49 | Erroneous | cool |
| 00:04.58 | AAA_awright | Like a graph that has to go through > 5000 player sessions |
| 00:05.35 | AAA_awright | (and that is narrowed fown from the 30k total Ive recorded over the last 3 days) |
| 00:06.08 | brlcad | Erroneous: yeah, I noticed |
| 00:07.08 | brlcad | the only issue I have is that his work isn't really visible .. not that it's very risky for the stats site, but it'd be cool to get him in svn asap if replacement is the intent |
| 00:07.10 | strayer | brlcad: my main arguments against a polling system for s.b.o are the undefined time between the pools and the problem of using script language to poll...ruby and perl would be ok, but PHP doesn't support multi-threading which is needed in case you get more players and servers |
| 00:07.50 | brlcad | yeah, polling is not desirable, it's only done because that's the only way the data is presently available |
| 00:08.09 | brlcad | i mean you should be able to poll them, but the stats shouldn't need to |
| 00:08.39 | strayer | yeah...that's exactly what I would like to have too |
| 00:10.00 | strayer | but I feel not competent enough to realize the needed changes in the server code... |
| 00:10.26 | brlcad | that's what I meant, though, about having you two work together to just make the changes needed -- it's not like there's a mad rush, so the bzfs mods that need to happen can be learned/made/etc ;) |
| 00:11.11 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
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| 00:17.26 | strayer | I'm very interested in the new menu :) |
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| 00:18.21 | Erroneous | brlcad: hm, sounds like a resize call is being missed or something |
| 00:18.48 | brlcad | yeah, the fix is just hit escape and bring up the menu again, then it's all better |
| 00:18.59 | brlcad | but it's certainly wicked when it happens |
| 00:21.39 | strayer | it was interesting for me to read what you want/expect...fall isn't too far away when you think of the things that could/should be done meanwhile |
| 00:21.59 | brlcad | so this merge is going in, but there's still build system work that'll be needed for freetype and ftgl |
| 00:22.22 | brlcad | there's presently a manual fix step required in freetype after either autogen.sh or configure |
| 00:22.26 | strayer | ftgl? |
| 00:22.37 | brlcad | strayer: there's a new font system |
| 00:23.10 | brlcad | bz now uses 'real' fonts (e.g. any ttf font), the fonts are managed through FTGL |
| 00:23.13 | strayer | ahhh, nice...so I can use a klingon-font for bzflag then?...fantastic :) |
| 00:23.33 | brlcad | looks way more crisp |
| 00:23.44 | brlcad | and should be fully automatic to different display sizes now |
| 00:24.01 | strayer | cool |
| 00:24.08 | strayer | a lot of work I guess |
| 00:24.23 | brlcad | overall, yeah |
| 00:25.22 | brlcad | jeff wrote the font manager, dtr forked it and enhanced it, jeff wrote a new one that did even more, then I merged the two, then more features were added and a few bugs fixed |
| 00:26.27 | strayer | real open-source-community-work...not time efficient, but a well through-thought result |
| 00:26.54 | brlcad | so it's been several months in the making overall of direct work, though most of the brunt done recently was done starting around the beginning of June when I started playing with the font manager |
| 00:27.41 | strayer | time to go to bed now...I still prefer contact via pm/email/whatever, because IRC is nothing I want to idle in (and the time you are awake is slleping time for me) |
| 00:27.52 | brlcad | hilights ;) |
| 00:28.18 | strayer | June is just a month ago...not too much time |
| 00:28.33 | strayer | :O) |
| 00:28.40 | brlcad | yeah, cept it's been pretty constant.. couple hours every day, long weekends :P |
| 00:29.09 | brlcad | and that doesn't include all the time that jeff and dtr put in on their versions to get it as far as they did |
| 00:29.12 | strayer | oha |
| 00:29.15 | brlcad | I just embraced and extended :) |
| 00:29.46 | brlcad | mm. "just" |
| 00:29.51 | JeffM | brlcad, you need to do the texture manager next ;) |
| 00:29.57 | Erroneous | heh |
| 00:29.58 | brlcad | heh, I glanced at it |
| 00:30.01 | strayer | that's a reason why bzflag is open-source, right?...nobody would be able to pay it if you would want to be paid |
| 00:30.26 | brlcad | naw, I bet I could get paid to work on bz .. but then that takes some of the fun out of it :) |
| 00:30.27 | JeffM | strayer, I can sell you bzflag |
| 00:30.35 | JeffM | and you can pay anyone to work on it |
| 00:30.37 | JeffM | it's open |
| 00:30.39 | strayer | ..for an apple and an egg? ^^ |
| 00:30.47 | AAA_awright | Cache fixed: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/ |
| 00:31.10 | brlcad | daxxar: botplaying.cxx is busted? |
| 00:31.14 | strayer | I knew that playing is fun, but coding?...you are a freak ;) |
| 00:31.20 | brlcad | coding is fun |
| 00:32.48 | strayer | not really...I like the feeling, when I finish something, but I never smile when I finishe a line of code |
| 00:32.48 | brlcad | at least I'm a handsome and productive freak ;) |
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| 00:33.16 | brlcad | *ahem* |
| 00:33.16 | AAA_awright | Fixed the french word. |
| 00:33.19 | strayer | hehe...true |
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| 00:33.19 | brlcad | i smile a lot when I code |
| 00:33.19 | brlcad | and laugh |
| 00:33.19 | brlcad | and cry |
| 00:33.19 | brlcad | ... :) |
| 00:33.33 | strayer | ...because fo your code comments and the mistakes you are doing |
| 00:33.49 | strayer | ? |
| 00:34.44 | strayer | my colleagues are also laughing when they read my code, but I don't want to know why... |
| 00:34.50 | brlcad | :) |
| 00:35.19 | brlcad | I smile more than I frown (way more), else I wouldn't be doing it :) |
| 00:35.54 | strayer | hehe...sounds like an optimist |
| 00:36.17 | brlcad | an eternal one |
| 00:36.38 | brlcad | daxxar: I retract that, it's caused by the merge |
| 00:36.48 | strayer | wow...you really want to live very long ;P |
| 00:36.59 | brlcad | I do! |
| 00:37.02 | strayer | btw..when you come to Germany for...whyever...would be nice to meet you |
| 00:37.15 | strayer | ok, good night and if you have some information for me, let's use the wonderful bzbb (it was so difficult to get it working..we should use it) |
| 00:37.29 | brlcad | I fully expect to either die suddenly, or live exceptionally long (hundreds of years) ;) |
| 00:37.43 | brlcad | what sort of info? |
| 00:37.57 | brlcad | it's more just jumping in |
| 00:38.05 | brlcad | if there's some way that I can help you get started, let me know |
| 00:38.10 | strayer | oha, you might know what option I would choose if I have to bet...^^ |
| 00:38.11 | brlcad | efforts speak more than messages ;) |
| 00:38.28 | strayer | indeed... :o) |
| 00:38.46 | brlcad | i mean, it'd be cool if you and AAA_awright worked together |
| 00:38.55 | brlcad | maybe collaborate on different aspects |
| 00:39.12 | brlcad | one of you hit up the list server and bzfs mods, the other the web side, or both |
| 00:39.17 | brlcad | or just work on the new site |
| 00:39.20 | strayer | ok...so I will send you a pm next time...I expect a response within a short time...just in case you will not live hundreds of years |
| 00:39.23 | brlcad | but work on it in svn, not offline |
| 00:39.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14674 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ (1427 files in 61 dirs): beginning of the merge of ftgl branch (from r14344), this is all the external dependencies being committed separately so they can perhaps later be excluded from line counts and other stats more readily |
| 00:39.43 | strayer | uhhh |
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| 00:39.59 | strayer | so I have to get familiar with such a versioning system?... |
| 00:40.14 | brlcad | yes, it's really not at all that hard |
| 00:40.22 | brlcad | and a huge time saver for collaborating and versioning |
| 00:40.29 | AAA_awright | This <http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/specs/listserver-upgrade.html> was my idea... |
| 00:40.33 | strayer | nah...I'm very pessimistic and conservative... |
| 00:40.46 | brlcad | okay, then it'll be horrible |
| 00:40.50 | brlcad | but it's kinda necessary :) |
| 00:40.53 | Erroneous | 1427 files!? |
| 00:41.05 | brlcad | wooot |
| 00:41.05 | strayer | but I could send my code as printed papers to AAA...and backwards |
| 00:41.10 | AAA_awright | I am looking for ideas on how to do that. Apparently no one uses MySQL to manage LDAP users and passwords. |
| 00:41.20 | brlcad | Erroneous: imagine if that were 61 cvs commit e-mails! |
| 00:41.23 | strayer | ;P |
| 00:41.34 | Erroneous | brlcad: that's actually exactly what I was imagining :) |
| 00:42.11 | brlcad | freetype is a ton of files, but they're actually not very big at all |
| 00:42.34 | brlcad | there's undoubtedly some cruft that can be culled too, but I just pulled them in unmodified, low maintenance |
| 00:43.02 | brlcad | which is why the build is a pita at the moment too because they wipe out some files that they need |
| 00:43.10 | Erroneous | heh |
| 00:43.12 | strayer | good night (last, but successful try to get some [3] hours of sleep) |
| 00:43.19 | Erroneous | g'night strayer |
| 00:43.21 | brlcad | cay |
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| 00:43.28 | brlcad | and don't be an irc stranger :) |
| 00:43.58 | strayer | my IRC times are over...can't type so fast...too old ;o) |
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| 00:44.59 | brlcad | 'scuses |
| 00:45.11 | brlcad | he's far from the slowest typist |
| 00:49.10 | Erroneous | heh |
| 00:49.18 | Erroneous | gee, I don't know anybody else who does that :) |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14675 10/trunk/bzflag/ (118 files in 14 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Final merge of the new font manager work from the 'ftgl' branch (copied on |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: r14344). This work represents a completely revamped font management system that |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: uses Freetype/FTGL for rendering text. The work is based off of an ftgl font |
| 00:57.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: manager replacement that Jeff wrote, merged with a bunch of enhancements that |
| 00:57.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Daniel made to the previous bzflag font manager. This new/combined font manager |
| 00:57.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: thus includes the best of both implementations, while ditching the previous |
| 00:58.05 | AAA_awright | Checking build. |
| 01:01.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14676 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/botplaying.cxx: stripAnsiCodes now works with constant character pointers |
| 01:02.55 | brlcad | AAA_awright: there is going to be some minor issues until freetype is changed to work better as a subconfigure |
| 01:03.04 | AAA_awright | yep. |
| 01:04.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14677 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/Makefile.am: need FontSizer |
| 01:06.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14678 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/Makefile.am: rdynamic isn't valid on mac os x, libtool wants -export-dynamic |
| 01:07.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14679 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/Makefile.am: bzrobots/bzflag seriously needs to be refactored to not require any opengl |
| 01:08.50 | brlcad | that should be it for now, just leaving the build system junk |
| 01:08.53 | AAA_awright | I didn't know commit messages were todo messages. |
| 01:09.17 | AAA_awright | lots of src/other/freetype |
| 01:09.31 | brlcad | error messages you mean |
| 01:09.41 | brlcad | (in freetype) |
| 01:09.48 | AAA_awright | My build tester is updating from SVN now |
| 01:09.58 | AAA_awright | Jeez, LOTS of freetype/ |
| 01:10.07 | brlcad | ahhh, you're just getting it |
| 01:10.10 | AAA_awright | There we go, autoconf |
| 01:10.13 | brlcad | yeah, first update will bring a lot |
| 01:10.32 | brlcad | when the build fails, it will be because of two files in src/other/freetype/builds/unix |
| 01:11.10 | brlcad | they get clobbered and replaced by effectively empty versions, causing freetype build to fail with a long spewing of undefined symbol errors |
| 01:11.37 | brlcad | the manual temp workaround is to just svn revert those two changed files and the build should proceed |
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| 01:12.49 | jude- | hello all |
| 01:13.08 | AAA_awright | Hi jude- |
| 01:13.08 | brlcad | howdy jude |
| 01:13.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14680 10/trunk/bzflag/TODO: add proper ftgl and freetype configure autodetection tests and need to fix the freetype build so that it works better as a subconfigure |
| 01:13.27 | AAA_awright | This is a small preview of my big feature I promised: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/ |
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| 01:15.52 | AAA_awright | Google days my serverlist page gets 5 times more hits then the main page. Odd. |
| 01:15.55 | jude- | ~AAA_awright++ |
| 01:16.08 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 01:16.15 | jude- | looks cool |
| 01:17.00 | tannerld | jude-: nice sidebar |
| 01:17.23 | jude- | heh--it's getting there :) |
| 01:17.25 | AAA_awright | Automatically preparing build ... Warning: autoreconf failed |
| 01:17.33 | AAA_awright | brlcad! |
| 01:17.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14681 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: include instructions for how to get past the build failure, temp fix for now until I get the proper build fix in later this weekend |
| 01:18.43 | brlcad | those instructions are just a guess/recollection of what I just do, but should be about right |
| 01:18.56 | brlcad | AAA_awright: run it verbose, I wouldn't expect autoreconf to fail |
| 01:19.05 | brlcad | cya |
| 01:19.08 | AAA_awright | How do you do that? |
| 01:19.17 | AAA_awright | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:19.41 | jude- | tannerld: ya |
| 01:19.57 | jude- | I'm going to disable that as soon as I can fix the weird texture scaling :) |
| 01:21.13 | tannerld | yeah - cornered looks evil now |
| 01:22.37 | tannerld | heh |
| 01:23.18 | AAA_awright | Anyone know what the type flag in MsgJoin is used for? |
| 01:24.08 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/specs/bzproto.0026.html#MsgEnter |
| 01:24.18 | AAA_awright | Sorry, MsgEnter |
| 01:47.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14682 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (11 files in 7 dirs): |
| 01:47.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Consolidated the texture coordinate remapping of boxes into the box::update() method; will do away with TextureScalerVisitor in favor |
| 01:47.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: of simply allowing each bz2object to extract its geometries using the new GeometryExtractorVisitor and then manipulating its texture |
| 01:47.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: coordinates on a per-type basis (far cleaner implementation). |
| 02:01.02 | AAA_awright | Major compile issues with the bzflag build, 2.1 trunk |
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| 02:08.37 | AAA_awright | ~developers |
| 02:09.52 | AAA_awright | ./autogen.sh --verbose gives me this error: |
| 02:09.54 | AAA_awright | autoreconf-2.61: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 |
| 02:10.17 | a_meteorite | ./autogen.sh -v |
| 02:10.26 | a_meteorite | brlcad is a wiz at that, pastebin it's output |
| 02:13.27 | AAA_awright | That is the thing, with --verbose I only got that line as an error. |
| 02:14.57 | a_meteorite | heh. |
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| 03:39.38 | jude- | hello all |
| 03:39.45 | tannerld | hi again |
| 03:45.30 | L4m3r | hm... I'm guessing that if a masterbanned user is on bzbb, I should just ban him, eh? |
| 03:46.17 | jude- | depends...what's (s)he posting? |
| 03:47.38 | L4m3r | general garbage |
| 03:47.59 | jude- | bannage :) |
| 03:48.02 | L4m3r | the sort of stuff we get from the 11 year old newbs |
| 03:48.17 | L4m3r | but I've heard this one is older... hm. |
| 03:48.49 | jude- | if (s)he acts like an 11 year old newb, then (s)he deserves to be treated as such, I guess :) |
| 03:55.51 | JeffM | L4m3r, who is it? |
| 03:55.59 | L4m3r | axl rose |
| 03:56.10 | L4m3r | check the basement, I saved a post so the IP could be taken |
| 03:56.16 | JeffM | are any of the posts against our rules? |
| 03:56.45 | L4m3r | sorta? |
| 03:56.54 | JeffM | define sorta |
| 03:57.04 | L4m3r | the first one said something about boobies, but wasn't really intelligible |
| 03:57.17 | JeffM | ahh |
| 03:57.19 | JeffM | yeah ban him |
| 03:57.21 | L4m3r | as for the one in the basement... no idea |
| 03:57.25 | JeffM | if tha'ts what he's posting |
| 03:57.26 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:57.32 | JeffM | it's not real, no mater what |
| 03:57.36 | JeffM | he's talking about his junk |
| 03:57.40 | L4m3r | it was edited, but I have no idea who did it |
| 03:57.42 | JeffM | it's not on topic |
| 03:58.13 | JeffM | I'll take care of it, so you can keep workin ;) |
| 04:07.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03l4m3rthanyou * r14683 10/branches/gsoc_irc/bzflag/src/bzfs/ircControl.cxx: Nothing to see here, just making a commit so I can switch computers ;) |
| 04:07.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14684 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
| 04:07.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Cleaned out the TextureScalerVisitor code. Now, box texture scaling along X and Y works almost perfectly (the exception being |
| 04:07.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: when one shrinks it to be narrower than the texture itself...that'll get fixed soon, hopefully). |
| 04:08.12 | L4m3r | jude-: JYNX |
| 04:08.16 | L4m3r | :P |
| 04:08.34 | jude- | heh |
| 04:08.42 | L4m3r | I'm not even sure there's even more than a couple lines |
| 04:09.00 | L4m3r | just switching over to the lappy, because the desktop has to deal with a bunch of windows garbage |
| 04:09.09 | jude- | ~lart Windows |
| 04:09.09 | ibot | cuts Windows into thin stripes |
| 04:11.04 | AAA_awright | What's this mean: Communication error joining game [Rejected]. |
| 04:13.00 | DTRemenak | means your connection was rejected |
| 04:13.50 | AAA_awright | And I can't find where in the source BZFS prints that |
| 04:14.21 | DTRemenak | bzfs.cxx:1656 and 1660 in trunk |
| 04:15.02 | DTRemenak | bad team or player type |
| 04:16.53 | AAA_awright | Thanks. |
| 04:17.14 | DTRemenak | np |
| 04:30.31 | brlcad | AAA_awright: care to pastebin that autogen.sh output (even if it is "just that line"), from command line to command line |
| 04:30.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14685 10/trunk/bzflag/include/AnsiCodes.h: if we assert() we must include assert.h |
| 04:31.26 | AAA_awright | at build 14685... building. |
| 04:35.12 | AAA_awright | Found GNU Autoconf version 2.61/Found GNU Automake version 1.10/Found GNU Libtool version 1.5.23b//Automatically preparing build ... |
| 04:35.37 | AAA_awright | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14686 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/freetype/builds/win32/visualc/ (freetype.sln freetype.vcproj): set svn:eol-style to crlf |
| 04:36.17 | brlcad | AAA_awright: a mean pastebin the entire output from ./autogen.sh --verbose |
| 04:36.21 | brlcad | it should be a slew of stuff |
| 04:37.10 | AAA_awright | Someone took down bzflag's pastebin link |
| 04:37.26 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca |
| 04:37.28 | JeffM | bzflag.bz has it's own pastebin |
| 04:37.37 | brlcad | they did? http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ |
| 04:37.38 | JeffM | we don't need to use anyone elses |
| 04:38.18 | AAA_awright | ...The link would Still help! |
| 04:38.48 | JeffM | ibot bzpastebin |
| 04:38.49 | ibot | bzpastebin is, like, http://pastebin.bzflag.bz a place to put large chunks of text to not flood a channel |
| 04:39.41 | JeffM | pastebin just isn't that common of a thing to need to be in the topic |
| 04:39.50 | AAA_awright | ... thanks for making me type out /msg ibot pastebin every time. For me it is. |
| 04:40.07 | AAA_awright | (sorry) Anyways... waiting for it to fail... |
| 04:40.25 | JeffM | didn't know the topic was just for you ;) |
| 04:40.32 | brlcad | what exactly are you wanting? |
| 04:40.40 | JeffM | and your browser does have a little feature called "bookmark' ;) |
| 04:41.32 | AAA_awright | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d88ea12d |
| 04:42.01 | brlcad | ooh |
| 04:43.11 | brlcad | your autotool versions are mismatched |
| 04:43.28 | AAA_awright | They wern't a few weeks ago. |
| 04:43.53 | AAA_awright | I did this every time a new commit is made. Today was the first time. |
| 04:44.38 | brlcad | it's a mismatch either way, could be that freetype is adding more flags |
| 04:44.52 | AAA_awright | Probably. |
| 04:45.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14687 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (objects/box.cpp share/box/box.obj): |
| 04:45.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Woohoo! Now the box looks EXACTLY like it does in the game, and scaling it doesn't distort the texture anymore! |
| 04:45.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Now if I could only get that to work with pyramids... |
| 04:46.21 | brlcad | hmm, not freetype, they don't use automake |
| 04:47.55 | brlcad | the problem, according to that pastebin is that autoreconf is failing (internally) due to a --force option being passed to aclocal (which your aclocal does not understand) |
| 04:48.06 | AAA_awright | >>> sys-devel/automake-1.10 merged. |
| 04:48.36 | brlcad | aclocal is part of automake, autoreconf is part of autoconf; one is talking to the other trying to invoke it with an option the other doesn't understand |
| 04:49.22 | AAA_awright | will update portage tomorrow. |
| 04:49.52 | AAA_awright | btw, where is player.isChat() located? |
| 04:49.57 | AAA_awright | the function? |
| 04:50.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14688 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (10 files): prevent claustrophobia - put some ws back between the title and the first option of the menus (tell me if this is uncool/breaks other platforms) |
| 04:51.04 | brlcad | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 04:51.17 | brlcad | i was gonna do that, but started to get lazy by that point |
| 04:51.18 | jude- | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 04:52.03 | blast007 | ~C++ |
| 04:52.11 | blast007 | ;) |
| 04:52.23 | brlcad | most of bzflag's font code relied on the fact that bz had no kerning and the font descent was already counted as part of the height |
| 04:52.42 | brlcad | now the descent is no longer counted, so things are off somewhat in some places |
| 04:53.20 | DTRemenak | for some reason all my fonts ended up really tiny too |
| 04:53.27 | brlcad | I fixed most of them, but I"m sure there are more -- anywhere it was using getFontHeight() usually needed tweaking and I only got to about 90% of them |
| 04:53.37 | brlcad | really? |
| 04:53.44 | DTRemenak | the control panel and scoreboard I can adjust, but the HUD heading looks like...10pt? |
| 04:53.54 | DTRemenak | menus are fine |
| 04:54.09 | brlcad | what's the hud heading? |
| 04:54.15 | brlcad | the direction labels? |
| 04:54.18 | DTRemenak | flag, your name, clock |
| 04:54.24 | brlcad | oh,hrmph |
| 04:55.19 | DTRemenak | altimeter and so on look ok (maybe a bit big if anything, but I can get used to it) |
| 04:56.03 | DTRemenak | also, quitting while you're connected to a server triggers an assertion |
| 04:56.07 | brlcad | I believe those are using the header or the alert font size (HUDRenderer.cxx and defaultBZDB.cxx) |
| 04:56.17 | DTRemenak | doesn't seem to be obvious where it's coming from |
| 04:57.21 | brlcad | should be all tweakable in defaultBZDB.cxx, though some of them have corresponding layout limits if they're menus |
| 04:58.14 | brlcad | need a screenshot that has all the font sections marked, so folks know what is what .. HUDRenderer is a bit guessy |
| 04:58.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14689 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/clientCommands.cxx: I *so* did not mean to commit this file |
| 04:59.28 | brlcad | and the names aren't quite consistent or clear in some cases.. hud labels? .. they all labels .. info? the entire hud is info.. etc :) |
| 04:59.32 | DTRemenak | heh... _kingKongKahmehameha |
| 04:59.39 | brlcad | yeah, guess who :) |
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| 05:03.36 | AAA_awright | So, the file player.isChat() is defined in? |
| 05:06.07 | brlcad | include/PlayerInfo.h |
| 05:06.17 | brlcad | it's an inline |
| 05:09.20 | brlcad | ah, he left.. boo hiss |
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| 05:11.38 | a_meteorite | aw man, and I PMed him a minute later after he left |
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| 05:23.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14690 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC8/ (3D.vcproj bzflag.sln): mmm, probably want to build ftgl and freetype. |
| 05:33.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14691 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Removed the annoying shadows from the 3D scene, and made it so selected objects really are tinted green. |
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| 05:51.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14692 10/branches/ftgl/: The ftgl branch is now closed for business. It was merged to the trunk as of r14691 and is no longer needed, nor should it be used. *poof* |
| 05:53.51 | jude- | ~brlcad++ |
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| 05:59.46 | Constitution | ~karma brlcad |
| 05:59.46 | ibot | brlcad has karma of 1 |
| 06:00.20 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 06:00.22 | a_meteorite | ~karma |
| 06:00.22 | ibot | a_meteorite has karma of 36 |
| 06:00.25 | a_meteorite | ...? |
| 06:01.21 | brlcad | my karma is regularly/automatically zero'd out for some reason, has been that way for nearly a year |
| 06:01.57 | jude- | weird |
| 06:02.03 | a_meteorite | I guess I'm lucky. |
| 06:05.58 | jude- | but who would be so cruel? |
| 06:07.47 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:09.04 | brlcad | i think i'll survive, it's just a baseless number tied to a bot on a chat channel :) |
| 06:09.18 | brlcad | it could be 5000 or 5 |
| 06:10.10 | L4m3r | ~brlcad++ |
| 06:10.14 | L4m3r | :) |
| 06:10.30 | jude- | ~karma brlcad |
| 06:10.30 | ibot | brlcad has karma of 1 |
| 06:10.37 | jude- | heh |
| 06:10.38 | L4m3r | lol |
| 06:10.48 | L4m3r | jbot must hate you, brlcad :) |
| 06:11.14 | L4m3r | er, ibot |
| 06:11.20 | L4m3r | same difference :P |
| 06:11.39 | brlcad | same bot even |
| 06:12.19 | jude- | indeed |
| 06:18.19 | L4m3r | fix it :) |
| 06:18.44 | jude- | just did :) |
| 06:18.55 | jude- | teleporters are entered through X, not Y |
| 06:19.46 | L4m3r | unfortunately, no one person seems to know all the intimate details of BZW |
| 06:20.05 | jude- | tis true |
| 06:20.16 | L4m3r | it's scattered over a bunch of people who know specialized stuff based on what they've done |
| 06:20.31 | jude- | I'll try to learn as much as I can |
| 06:20.33 | L4m3r | and the passing around of this info causes things to get mixed up :P |
| 06:21.46 | L4m3r | for instance, I know a lot about dealing with the mesh "seam glitch" because I've done a couple of large maps by hand |
| 06:21.56 | L4m3r | hand-coded meshes :P |
| 06:22.17 | jude- | sounds painful |
| 06:22.25 | jude- | what's the "seam glitch"? |
| 06:22.42 | L4m3r | well, there are two of them, actually |
| 06:22.57 | L4m3r | one occurs between mesh surfaces and 1.x objects |
| 06:23.11 | jude- | how so? |
| 06:23.18 | L4m3r | the other occurs between two meshes, usually because of a transformation (or multiple transformations) |
| 06:23.48 | L4m3r | basically, a tank driving over a flush seam gets stuck, as if driving into a wall. It forces the player to back up and jump over the seam. |
| 06:23.57 | L4m3r | often you can drive over it one way, but not the other |
| 06:24.06 | jude- | ahh--I was already aware of that one :) |
| 06:24.15 | jude- | I just didn't know its name |
| 06:24.23 | L4m3r | this is also why teles that go from the ground to a meshbox won't work properly :P |
| 06:24.31 | jude- | yup, heard that one too |
| 06:24.40 | jude- | in fact, I think you told me at the start of GSoC |
| 06:24.45 | jude- | I had just forgotten :/ |
| 06:26.16 | L4m3r | heh |
| 06:26.30 | L4m3r | I don't know the exact details of how it's caused in the mesh case |
| 06:26.43 | L4m3r | so I can't tell you how to diagnose it in the editor :P |
| 06:27.10 | jude- | the best I can do for now is post a warning in the editor |
| 06:27.24 | jude- | unfortunately, it's a flaw in the Collider, as I was told |
| 06:27.29 | L4m3r | I've found it has something to do with the number of spin transformations |
| 06:27.34 | a_meteorite | jude-: what's the bzwb blog again? |
| 06:27.44 | jude- | bzworbench.wordpress.com |
| 06:27.51 | jude- | *bzworkbench.wordpress.com |
| 06:27.54 | Constitution | ~bzworkbench |
| 06:27.55 | ibot | [bzworkbench] a bzflag world file editor being developed by jude-, or http://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ |
| 06:28.07 | jude- | heh--didn't know there was an ibot entry for it :) |
| 06:28.17 | Constitution | ~factinfo bzworkbench |
| 06:28.17 | ibot | bzworkbench -- created by Constitution <n=Constitu@gateway.pct.civiltec.com> at Tue Jul 17 21:28:30 2007 (9 days); it has been requested once, last by Constitution, 22s ago. |
| 06:28.23 | Constitution | :-) |
| 06:28.29 | jude- | ~Constitution++ |
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| 06:39.00 | nogaW_emocleW_eh | any devs awake? |
| 06:39.23 | a_meteorite | ask L4m3r or brlcad |
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| 07:01.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14693 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (16 files in 7 dirs): Added some teleporter mesh and texture data, updated a few things here and there (mostly one-liners). |
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| 08:24.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03l4m3rthanyou * r14694 10/branches/gsoc_irc/bzflag/src/bzfs/ircControl.cxx: Done for the night, minor changes. |
| 08:49.41 | daxxar | ~L4m3r++ |
| 08:49.45 | daxxar | ~jude-++ |
| 08:52.06 | daxxar | ~brlcad++ |
| 08:52.12 | daxxar | ~jeffm++ |
| 08:52.19 | daxxar | bzflag sure was active tonight. :-P |
| 08:52.54 | a_meteorite | as in the weeks and months to come, surely it will be |
| 08:52.57 | a_meteorite | no comment |
| 08:55.46 | daxxar | :-) |
| 09:00.50 | ts | Mmmm, TTF :D |
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| 09:19.09 | ts | sigh make fails...seems like it doesn't find some headers |
| 09:39.36 | daxxar | ts: vim BUGS? |
| 09:43.33 | daxxar | Hm, brlcad: I'm having build errors, and the workaround in BUGS isn't solving it. |
| 09:43.36 | daxxar | brlcad: http://rafb.net/p/VPMiDk64.html |
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| 09:47.49 | ts | daxxar: Similar, same line. Something is not defined there I think |
| 10:03.49 | ts | looks like FT_CONFIG_CONFIG_H does not point to the proper location |
| 10:05.19 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
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| 11:15.54 | ts | brlcad: ping |
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| 11:33.54 | nixbox | hi all |
| 11:34.14 | nixbox | i am using bzflag on windows XP. I have just built the configuration using the builder. How do i start the server on windows? |
| 11:37.18 | Rawk | nixbox: something like "bzfs.exe -conf your_conf_file" I guess. |
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| 11:47.35 | Dessy | ya |
| 11:47.38 | Dessy | or moment |
| 11:48.07 | Dessy | use this --> http://groupdb.links-clan.net/start.php |
| 11:48.12 | Dessy | but is german |
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| 12:08.56 | CBG | Dessy: config and group files are the same no matter what OS you run, except for the obvious differences like paths to files, etc. |
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| 16:22.11 | ts | brlcad: There's a problem with the definition of FT_CONFIG_CONFIG_H in freetype |
| 16:23.11 | ts | When I take out the #ifndef FT_CONFIG_CONFIG_H in ftheader.h it builds fine but..this is evil |
| 16:23.43 | brlcad | did you read the other comments I made about the freetype build? |
| 16:23.55 | ts | I suppose it must be defined somewhere else, too..but I'm unable to find it |
| 16:24.01 | ts | brlcad: No :/ |
| 16:24.24 | ts | Didn't know you made any |
| 16:24.32 | brlcad | i made several |
| 16:24.47 | brlcad | read the TODO and the BUGS files |
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| 16:26.09 | ts | Ah, that |
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| 16:27.21 | ts | I didn't thought that would influence :/ |
| 16:27.56 | ts | Tried right now, didn't work |
| 16:29.23 | ts | Only deleting line # 109 and # 111 from ftheader.h fixes but as said, that is a dirty hack |
| 16:31.07 | brlcad | relevance? |
| 16:31.29 | ts | Sorry, I'm not understanding :/ |
| 16:32.06 | brlcad | as I pointed out yesterday, the integration is not yet complete until I sort out the freetype build problems |
| 16:32.32 | brlcad | bugs lists one way to try and get around the problem, it might not be exact but then I'm not trying to hold anyone's hand |
| 16:32.43 | brlcad | it'll be fixed, just wait |
| 16:32.56 | brlcad | anything else is really pointless unless you intend to fix it proper |
| 16:33.11 | ts | brlcad: I didn't request holding my hand, just telling you in case you didn't know |
| 16:33.19 | brlcad | i'm not saying you did |
| 16:33.37 | brlcad | there was just a rather long talk about this yesterday (which you apparently missed, so not your fault of course) |
| 16:33.49 | brlcad | but yes, I know about it .. which is why it's in the todo |
| 16:34.18 | ts | k |
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| 17:16.27 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation |
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| 18:12.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14695 10/trunk/bzflag/include/AnsiCodes.h: assert is a system header |
| 18:25.25 | Erroneous | oops |
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| 18:39.16 | brlcad | cool |
| 18:39.16 | brlcad | ssh over https |
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| 19:05.41 | AAA_awright | Oh? |
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| 19:27.55 | brlcad | AAA_awright: missed your answer last night by a few seconds, it's in include/PlayerInfo.h |
| 19:28.12 | AAA_awright | There is no definition? |
| 19:29.38 | menotume | AAA_awright: did you get my message a few days agio about export2.php ? |
| 19:29.43 | wanda | hi ... bzflag compile seems to be broken (for me) after the last commits (freetype/ftgl) .. please have a look http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/636278 |
| 19:30.03 | menotume | I changed export2.php (on all 3 sites) to NOT include deleted teams |
| 19:30.10 | menotume | you can use it if you want teamless players (teamid will be 0) |
| 19:30.39 | AAA_awright | Great. |
| 19:31.08 | AAA_awright | wanda: I am getting all sorts of bad compiles because of freetype |
| 19:31.24 | AAA_awright | brlcad is fixing that (right?) |
| 19:31.59 | AAA_awright | I will try running my build tester again though, see if I come up with the same thing. |
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| 19:37.57 | AAA_awright | menotume: it's PL: team, playerid, callsign right? |
| 19:40.31 | AAA_awright | Probably is. |
| 19:41.15 | menotume | AAA_awright: right :) |
| 19:50.00 | TimRiker | brlcad: ssh over https? just a listener on 443 or what? |
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| 19:51.06 | AAA_awright | A search brought up this: http://proxytunnel.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 19:58.21 | brlcad | TimRiker: ajax-based web app over ssl |
| 20:00.42 | brlcad | still a lot of bugs need working out, but it's quickly coming together |
| 20:01.33 | brlcad | was able to log in, navigate the command line, run screen/irssi, full terminal support |
| 20:05.46 | AAA_awright | brlcad: linky |
| 20:09.15 | brlcad | you gotta have an account to log in |
| 20:11.21 | brlcad | it's running on .bz atm on port 2222 |
| 20:15.01 | AAA_awright | So there is no source code behind it? |
| 20:16.57 | brlcad | huh? |
| 20:17.11 | brlcad | there is source code |
| 20:20.01 | blast007 | AAA_awright: google webshell |
| 20:20.23 | AAA_awright | Ah |
| 20:20.42 | AAA_awright | Python. |
| 20:22.47 | brlcad | been debugging it all afternoon, lots of work still needed |
| 20:23.11 | brlcad | setup is pretty darn simple though |
| 20:32.01 | AAA_awright | once pyopenssl merges with my system... |
| 20:32.09 | AAA_awright | Yeay. |
| 20:32.30 | donny_baker | sounds pretty cool, can get access you need even if you can't run putty |
| 20:33.37 | AAA_awright | type |links|. That will do it in. |
| 20:34.00 | AAA_awright | No... you can still do Ctrl-C. Awesome. |
| 20:37.21 | AAA_awright | One of the very first working SSH over HTML implantations and they decide to do it for the iPhone. Go figure. |
| 20:41.29 | donny_baker | can you ping other places? try bowencenter.org |
| 20:41.38 | donny_baker | sry wrong window |
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| 21:05.22 | donny_baker | yay, one week with no spam on the wiki :) |
| 21:16.47 | Winny | ~dance |
| 21:16.48 | ibot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 21:16.57 | Winny | hmm |
| 21:17.00 | Winny | ~shake |
| 21:17.01 | ibot | ACTION shakes his booty all over town |
| 21:17.05 | Winny | there we gi |
| 21:17.07 | Winny | go.. |
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| 21:33.06 | AAA_awright | My build is still failing: builds/unix/ftsystem.c:410: error: old-style parameter declarations in prototyped function definition//var/bzflag/bzflag/src/other/freetype/include/freetype/freetype.h:1578: error: parameter name omitted |
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