| 00:50.07 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/graph.3 Total BZFlag players over the last 24 hours |
| 00:51.19 | AAA_awright | It peaked at 283 a few hours ago. |
| 00:53.33 | AAA_awright | Hm. Time to fine-tune.. |
| 01:00.31 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/graph.3 There we go. |
| 01:06.13 | AAA_awright | Here is the activity for Bloodbath 2: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/graph.3/server/444 |
| 01:08.15 | AAA_awright | .msg ibot ping |
| 01:08.22 | AAA_awright | ~ping |
| 01:08.25 | ibot | pong |
| 01:08.47 | AAA_awright | Why did my connection just die...? |
| 01:12.54 | brlcad | those graphs would be great drupal modules on the new website |
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| 01:16.21 | AAA_awright | Server pages now show activity over the last 24 hours: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/server/borrego.hepcat.org:5154 |
| 01:23.45 | Macro|recharging | :( http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/index.php/player/Macrosoft |
| 01:34.23 | AAA_awright | Ha |
| 01:34.43 | Winny | btw all, thoughts on this revision of the theme? http://bzfusion.net/bzflag.org/test2/index.html |
| 01:36.05 | AAA_awright | That looks good. |
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| 01:36.35 | AAA_awright | The title header is repeating, right? |
| 01:36.55 | AAA_awright | Just in case anyone has a massive 4000dpi monitor... |
| 01:37.10 | Macro|recharging | ? |
| 01:37.23 | AAA_awright | Ooh, cool print preview |
| 01:37.28 | Macro|recharging | mine is 1440x900 |
| 01:37.43 | blast007 | brlcad: is mod_rewrite enabled for m.b.o ? |
| 01:38.30 | AAA_awright | Winny: want an XML feed from http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/ ? |
| 01:38.43 | blast007 | ...for? |
| 01:38.44 | brlcad | blast007: yes |
| 01:38.48 | blast007 | brlcad: hmm |
| 01:39.13 | brlcad | though I've heard at least one user on another project having issues, so let me know -- it might need to be enabled per dir or you might have to turn the engine on, etc |
| 01:39.25 | blast007 | we have an .htaccess in the drupal directory |
| 01:39.30 | blast007 | we're trying to get clean urls to work |
| 01:39.46 | brlcad | I'd make the conf mods for something that widespread |
| 01:39.50 | brlcad | it'll perform better |
| 01:40.23 | brlcad | presuming it's a dir that didn't have an .htaccess in the first place |
| 01:41.03 | AAA_awright | Winny: ping |
| 01:41.19 | blast007 | brlcad: it already had the .htaccess |
| 01:41.31 | brlcad | ah, okay |
| 01:41.57 | brlcad | and do you know if it was reading/using the .htaccess for things other than mod_rewrite? :) |
| 01:41.59 | blast007 | just trying to think if it will work for us anyway :) |
| 01:42.07 | blast007 | it's a long htaccess |
| 01:42.27 | brlcad | .htaccess might not be being parsed |
| 01:42.45 | blast007 | apparently not |
| 01:42.53 | blast007 | it doesn't pick up the custom error document either |
| 01:43.59 | brlcad | yeah, .htaccess is probably off |
| 01:44.10 | brlcad | forget the conf option for that ... |
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| 01:47.04 | donny_baker | evenin, a_meteorite |
| 01:47.56 | a_meteorite | hi donny_baker |
| 01:47.59 | a_meteorite | doing good? |
| 01:48.28 | donny_baker | mostly, only doing a little evil |
| 01:48.33 | a_meteorite | ? |
| 01:55.43 | donny_baker | a_meteorite: it was supposed to be funny :P |
| 01:56.15 | a_meteorite | oh,I thought you really were :) |
| 01:59.58 | Winny | AAA_awright: no thanks, not now :) maybe later |
| 02:00.24 | Winny | a_meteorite: http://bzfusion.net/bzflag.org/test2/index.html |
| 02:03.54 | a_meteorite | Winny: looks good, could use better news padding |
| 02:04.17 | Winny | yeah |
| 02:04.34 | Winny | thats just a basic idea of the news format |
| 02:04.37 | a_meteorite | as long as I still get credit, I'm happy :) |
| 02:04.42 | Winny | thank jeff for th idea :) |
| 02:04.44 | a_meteorite | I like this header more |
| 02:04.46 | Winny | ~JeffM++ |
| 02:09.53 | brlcad | oh, I like the new header |
| 02:10.07 | brlcad | yeah, that's much better |
| 02:10.16 | Winny | jeff's idea to put it there, not mine |
| 02:10.38 | AAA_awright | "maybe later". Like when I finally get merged with s.b.o :p |
| 02:10.56 | Winny | AAA_awright: the max-width of the page is 2000px, so massive DPI monitors are limited to 2000px of width |
| 02:11.09 | Winny | er, wow, I just restated myself twice |
| 02:11.42 | AAA_awright | Okay. |
| 02:12.27 | brlcad | but it's okay, it's all good, it works out well enough |
| 02:14.08 | brlcad | Winny: all links seem to have the grey background, kinda klunky? |
| 02:15.43 | brlcad | AAA_awright: that left panel is just begging for graphs ;) |
| 02:16.00 | brlcad | or a right panel, etc |
| 02:16.08 | AAA_awright | :) |
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| 02:17.28 | AAA_awright | Winny: a:hover{background:url(thief.png);} |
| 02:18.19 | brlcad | heh |
| 02:19.31 | Winny | rofl |
| 02:19.49 | Winny | brlcad: yeah, I broke the links, and never fixed 'em :P |
| 02:20.01 | Winny | they were right when met made the template, tho :) |
| 02:20.21 | brlcad | is the title a separate image/layer? |
| 02:20.32 | Winny | yeah |
| 02:20.32 | brlcad | (would be useful/good if it were) |
| 02:20.34 | brlcad | ah, cool |
| 02:20.40 | Winny | thats how it expands with the page width |
| 02:21.03 | brlcad | oh, no -- i mean the text title on the left with the icon |
| 02:21.11 | Winny | yeah |
| 02:21.14 | Winny | its seperate |
| 02:21.23 | brlcad | not the whole title image across the top |
| 02:21.35 | Winny | the "BZFlag [tank icon]"? |
| 02:21.40 | brlcad | yeah |
| 02:21.50 | Winny | its seperate from the tank/tele image, yes |
| 02:21.55 | brlcad | cool |
| 02:23.00 | brlcad | cause I think it kinda sucks a little like that :) |
| 02:23.01 | Winny | what kind of monitor do you have? 2560x1600? |
| 02:23.10 | brlcad | which one? :) |
| 02:23.33 | Winny | ehe |
| 02:23.37 | Winny | both? :P |
| 02:24.03 | brlcad | both? :) |
| 02:24.20 | brlcad | sitting at a triple at the moment |
| 02:24.36 | brlcad | middle one is 2560x1600 |
| 02:25.19 | Winny | hmm, I wonder what % of people have those |
| 02:25.27 | Macro|recharging | not me |
| 02:25.35 | Winny | the only reason it has a max-wdith is so the header image doesn't have to me massive |
| 02:25.43 | Winny | s/massive/bigger then it is |
| 02:25.52 | brlcad | it's fine |
| 02:26.17 | brlcad | the css actually fixes the width to that max, so it just stays centered |
| 02:26.52 | brlcad | would be wasteful on probably 3000+ wide, but those aren't here yet for most people :) |
| 02:33.38 | AAA_awright | Winny: I have ~62% of that |
| 02:34.09 | Winny | ~150% if I hook up the other LCD |
| 02:37.21 | brlcad | ~donny_baker++ |
| 02:41.34 | brlcad | Winny: what does the time/date box look like on the right side instead of the left? above the posted |
| 02:42.36 | brlcad | and without boxes around them, only having lines around the grey boxes |
| 02:42.39 | brlcad | too many lines |
| 02:42.58 | brlcad | just some thoughts |
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| 02:46.26 | donny_baker | I think we could modify the wiki template to get a similar (not exact) look |
| 02:48.47 | brlcad | the look needs to settle down and evolve a bit more too probably before doing that |
| 02:49.01 | brlcad | but once down, much of the same .css should even apply |
| 02:49.58 | donny_baker | right, but if we stay on this tack, i think it's doable |
| 02:50.16 | brlcad | yeah |
| 02:59.28 | donny_baker | cool, said he was |
| 02:59.34 | donny_baker | doh |
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| 08:53.06 | Dessy | hi cbg :) |
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| 16:56.38 | quine | right now, i am using windows, linux, and mac os all at the same time |
| 16:56.50 | quine | in order to achieve a common goal! |
| 16:56.56 | quine | this, my friends, is perfect harmony! |
| 16:57.01 | tannerld | what goal? |
| 16:57.18 | quine | uh, boring database stuff ;\ |
| 16:57.26 | quine | but never mind that! |
| 16:57.50 | tannerld | lol |
| 16:58.51 | quine | for some reason, my boss wants an access database, and a copy of it in mysql |
| 16:59.30 | quine | and then he says that in case he has to leave this lab (and has to leave the linux box behind) |
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| 16:59.40 | quine | he wants mysql on windows too |
| 16:59.40 | quine | :\ |
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| 22:05.33 | Winny | hrm |
| 22:06.08 | Winny | where does BZ compile to in linux? |
| 22:06.45 | Winny | didn't get an error, but I don't see it in bin |
| 22:10.20 | tannerld | did you do make install? |
| 22:12.15 | Winny | indeed |
| 22:12.25 | Constitution | probably /usr/local/bin |
| 22:36.18 | AAA_awright | Winny: |
| 22:36.32 | AAA_awright | It created a dir like /usr/games/bin on my system |
| 22:36.49 | AAA_awright | during |make install| |
| 22:49.44 | brlcad | you can specify where it installs to during configure |
| 22:52.33 | AAA_awright | I will check. When I didn't specify anything, that is what it chose. |
| 22:52.43 | Winny | I got it, no need to |
| 22:53.15 | AAA_awright | Well now I have to deal with all my bzflag flies being in a location they are not supposed to... I guess I should thank you Winny and brlcad... |
| 22:56.08 | brlcad | make uninstall? :) |
| 22:56.27 | strayer | brlcad: do you have an idea why it's possible to get the map as request without being logged in as player for 2.0.x, but not for 2.1.x? |
| 22:56.31 | brlcad | hey strayer |
| 22:56.33 | brlcad | finally :) |
| 22:56.49 | strayer | yeah...I thought I could try it this night again ;o) |
| 22:56.55 | brlcad | :-) |
| 22:57.25 | brlcad | 2.1.x connections changed completely |
| 22:57.31 | brlcad | the protocol is very different |
| 22:58.26 | strayer | I thought about placing a bird-view map image in every server profile page, but unfortunately I can't get the maps for older or newer server versions than 2.0.x |
| 22:58.39 | strayer | *in = on |
| 22:59.02 | Erroneous | sure you can, you just have to complete the connection cycle :) |
| 22:59.29 | strayer | nah..that's stupid..a 1 second login as player just to get the map? ;) |
| 22:59.35 | brlcad | yeah, that's fairly intentional .. if the second number in #.#.# is different, then it means it's not compatible communication-wise |
| 22:59.45 | brlcad | you have to have logic for each protocol version |
| 23:00.49 | strayer | well..the game options and player informations are still open for scripts, so I expected it would work for other requests too...I was wrong..once more :) |
| 23:01.04 | Erroneous | there was a plan to have the map available as part of the http export. unfortunately that particular soc project didn't get accepted, so it's up to someone else to do it. |
| 23:01.42 | strayer | uh...why via http? |
| 23:01.56 | Erroneous | so you could get it with your browser |
| 23:02.00 | Erroneous | along with other information |
| 23:02.24 | brlcad | yeah, basically a mini webserver collection of just about any desired information |
| 23:02.49 | Erroneous | would have made stats stuff very easy to collect and extend |
| 23:02.50 | brlcad | eventually even ability to control basic aspects of the server |
| 23:02.57 | strayer | hm, that's too much....and there already exists a query structure to get the map....making a bzfs to a partli-web-browser is..erm..interesting :) |
| 23:03.30 | Erroneous | why should a client have to know our binary map format to read the map? |
| 23:03.40 | Erroneous | better to send as bzw |
| 23:03.46 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 23:04.01 | strayer | the bzw file is much bigger than the binary string |
| 23:04.20 | brlcad | curl -O http://viper2.pimpi.org:5158/stats/playerhistory.xml |
| 23:04.25 | Erroneous | it's human readable, however |
| 23:04.39 | Erroneous | and machine readable in a documented, fixed format |
| 23:04.47 | Erroneous | instead of an undocumented, flexible, ever-changing one |
| 23:05.13 | brlcad | with people coming into IRC asking why the protocol changed and why their scripts are no longer working ;-) |
| 23:05.24 | Erroneous | exactly :) |
| 23:05.59 | strayer | true..no need to care about the binary format when you get the origin text file |
| 23:06.51 | strayer | well..it was just an idea to implement new features :) |
| 23:07.04 | Erroneous | likewise with stats, being able to dump out xml and rss means you can use existing aggregators and so on, instead of needing all these special scripts that have to know how to speak bzfs :) |
| 23:07.45 | brlcad | tis a good feature that you're wanting/trying to implement |
| 23:08.39 | strayer | hm...actually, all versions are kinda compatible...I just have to change 4 lines of code to add new server versions (only 1.7 to 1.10 was tricky) |
| 23:09.21 | Erroneous | yeah, there's usually quite a bit that stays the same |
| 23:09.30 | Erroneous | but nothing's guaranteed too, and a lot does change |
| 23:09.40 | strayer | brlcad: but this won't work...^^ |
| 23:10.21 | strayer | yepp...I rewrote my scripts since 2002 around 3 times until I got the current and somehow flexible structure |
| 23:11.14 | strayer | btw...adding bzID and player lag information to the player response would be nice...lalala :o) |
| 23:13.33 | strayer | brlcad: aren't you using your IM accounts? |
| 23:14.41 | brlcad | yeah, you've just sort have been "lucky" that most compatible-breaking changes are only slight differences .. but there's no guarantee of that |
| 23:15.05 | brlcad | strayer: rarely .. sometimes I use them a lot, sometimes not for months |
| 23:15.19 | brlcad | irc gets priority, followed by e-mail, followed by everything else |
| 23:16.02 | brlcad | er, and people standing in front of me tend to get priority even over irc too ;) |
| 23:16.18 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:16.18 | strayer | I know..but as long as the required changes are that small, I won't care... |
| 23:16.40 | strayer | too unimportant topics to travel to you ^^ |
| 23:16.46 | Erroneous | hehe :) |
| 23:16.50 | brlcad | 2.2 is probably more than a little small |
| 23:17.28 | Erroneous | when we "break proto" there are no guarantees that anything will remain the same. we only guarantee it for revision changes. |
| 23:17.38 | brlcad | strayer: I came } { *this close to being in your neighborhood in a couple months |
| 23:17.44 | strayer | actually, 2.1.x servers work without real problems...sometimes the servers destroy the connection after the HTML like header, but not too often |
| 23:18.00 | brlcad | had I really wanted, I could have but I was lazy getting the passport updated |
| 23:18.08 | strayer | oh..really?... |
| 23:18.14 | brlcad | with all the passport delays, I was demotivated even more :) |
| 23:18.47 | brlcad | yeah, bzfs dropping the connection after the header is a bzfs bug that has to get sorted out |
| 23:18.57 | strayer | well well.. |
| 23:19.05 | brlcad | I haven't investigated, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the lookup it tries to perform |
| 23:19.14 | brlcad | as it does log the lookup, and then the client hangs |
| 23:19.25 | Erroneous | yeah, that does need to be fixed |
| 23:19.37 | brlcad | that's just a recent bug though, would never "ship" that that way |
| 23:19.40 | strayer | yupp...would be "useful" |
| 23:20.43 | brlcad | but, yeah.. I really should go to http://www.uni-ulm.de/rt07/RT07.html .. for many reasons |
| 23:21.01 | strayer | I heared/read that the servers tell the list server when a player enters the game and also tell the player's name...so: live stats at m.b.o would be possible, right? |
| 23:21.21 | strayer | can you tell me...2 reasons? > just nosey |
| 23:21.32 | brlcad | sure, that's always been the case iirc |
| 23:21.55 | Erroneous | players who try to authenticate do get their name sent. anonymous players do not. |
| 23:21.55 | brlcad | only issue with live stats is architecting it so it's not expensive |
| 23:22.36 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 23:22.43 | brlcad | there are potentially dozens of connections per second, which can amount to 3 times as many sql calls or more depending how it's done |
| 23:22.44 | strayer | no problem...as long as you only want to show the current servers/players...if you want to log these information, it would be more difficult |
| 23:22.47 | Constitution | :-) |
| 23:23.09 | strayer | innodb is very fast when it comes to insert or update statements |
| 23:23.30 | brlcad | that's a meaningless statement without values :) |
| 23:23.40 | brlcad | everything can be said to be fast with the right assumptions |
| 23:23.55 | strayer | Erroneous: you just ahve to let the server send the anonymous names too |
| 23:24.03 | Erroneous | "just" :) |
| 23:25.01 | brlcad | s/this/thinks/ |
| 23:25.04 | strayer | well, for 2.2.0 you have the chance to change the current behavour..that was the context for "just" |
| 23:26.24 | brlcad | cvs merging, for all it's warts, isn't much worse than svn's .. feels like I've just traded one set of problems for a second set minus two or something |
| 23:26.37 | brlcad | strayer: yup |
| 23:26.42 | brlcad | you do to, we all do :) |
| 23:26.45 | brlcad | blessed open source |
| 23:28.13 | strayer | hehe...I'm actually much more interested in getting the player's lag and bzID and the map from the server...changing the server-listserver-communication will take away the sense of my site ;) |
| 23:29.32 | strayer | btw...I had a look into the source files many times and found some things that should be changed...but I forced Chestal to do that then, because the code is too unorganized for me to handle it on my own |
| 23:30.07 | brlcad | could always help organize it :) |
| 23:30.16 | brlcad | it's one of the best ways to learn |
| 23:30.26 | brlcad | and become familiar with the codebase |
| 23:30.52 | strayer | yeah..like adding the server type "replay", but when I saw all the hacks that were made in this section, motivation was...erm..lost |
| 23:31.36 | brlcad | yeah.. replay was a major hack |
| 23:32.08 | brlcad | wouldn't have probably survived, but it sort of worked and was part of many many more extensive changes |
| 23:32.35 | brlcad | i.e. part of other changes that were very good, collectively |
| 23:32.59 | strayer | I was also trying to add the more of information to the player requests, but I noticed that the client's way handling the protocol is not upwards-compatible (for more fields)...so I should had to understand and change this too.. |
| 23:33.19 | strayer | ah...interesting |
| 23:34.09 | Erroneous | brlcad: cvs' merge was not bad. svn's may not be much of an improvement, but it's still...not bad :) |
| 23:34.44 | brlcad | didn't say it was bad :) .. just a pain in the arse sometimes |
| 23:34.56 | brlcad | and blessed svn doesn't really do much better |
| 23:35.06 | Erroneous | actually I find svn's much easier, primarily because it lets me use winmerge |
| 23:35.10 | strayer | pain let's you know you are still alive...so SVN is good |
| 23:35.22 | Erroneous | whereas cvs always insisted upon merging the sources itself |
| 23:35.23 | brlcad | i'm still having to resolve a slew of conflicts that aren't conflicts, diffs that aren't really different, and double merge issues |
| 23:35.55 | Erroneous | a good merge tool helps a little bit with that too...particularly the "diffs that aren't really different" |
| 23:36.20 | Erroneous | but yeah, merging is always a little bit painful :) |
| 23:36.22 | brlcad | "shouldn't" have to deal with them in the first place :) |
| 23:36.48 | daxxar | You committing changes to bzrobots? |
| 23:37.05 | daxxar | (I just popped by before bed, saw you talking about bzrobots conflicts) |
| 23:37.13 | brlcad | daxxar: no, but it's part of my griping :) |
| 23:37.22 | brlcad | i'd kept the branch up to date with head |
| 23:37.36 | daxxar | Ah, right, the font-branch. Are you merging it back to trunk? |
| 23:37.45 | brlcad | which, for no sensible reason continually conflicted in bzrobots on the branch |
| 23:37.59 | Erroneous | ack, that should not happen at all |
| 23:37.59 | brlcad | so now I'm merging back to head, the whole freaking dir conflicts |
| 23:38.15 | brlcad | it shouldn't, I never touched bzrobots |
| 23:38.19 | daxxar | Every file? |
| 23:38.22 | brlcad | it was the only dir that had this issue |
| 23:38.24 | daxxar | Or just the directory itself? |
| 23:38.31 | daxxar | Then it's probably svn properties? |
| 23:38.35 | daxxar | I.e. svn:ignore |
| 23:38.36 | Erroneous | did you keep track of your merge points? should be able to do three-way merges and resolve everything automatically |
| 23:38.50 | brlcad | Erroneous: yep, (commit comments noted that too) |
| 23:38.55 | Erroneous | huh |
| 23:38.59 | Erroneous | dunno then |
| 23:39.08 | brlcad | each commit was from the previous, the whole deal done according to the book |
| 23:39.17 | brlcad | I think it was an svn bug related to files being added |
| 23:39.21 | Erroneous | ah |
| 23:39.22 | daxxar | Oh well, good luck. |
| 23:39.22 | Erroneous | that sucks |
| 23:39.27 | daxxar | I'm heading to bed. :-) |
| 23:39.38 | brlcad | it's easy to "fix", I just delete the dir |
| 23:39.54 | strayer | good night daxxar...good idea |
| 23:39.56 | brlcad | had it been elsewhere, like in src/bzflag, I woulda been pissed |
| 23:40.43 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:41.36 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 23:41.57 | brlcad | so, Erroneous .. you get a chance to test or are otherwise okay with the merge happening? |
| 23:42.47 | Erroneous | "otherwise ok" seems to apply |
| 23:42.49 | brlcad | performance should be pretty darn close now, down to less than 5% difference, but it is consistently ever so slightly slower than before (though utterly dominated by other factors too like turning on/off options) |
| 23:43.11 | Erroneous | slightly slower is no big deal, considering the benefits |
| 23:43.30 | Erroneous | and I have heard that it builds on windows, so I'm cool with that too |
| 23:43.38 | brlcad | i was seeing 2-4% slower depending on the settings, console size, font sizes, context size, radar being on/off, etc |
| 23:43.48 | Erroneous | yeah, that's just about nothing |
| 23:45.08 | Erroneous | I'll certainly take a look at it still, but I don't particularly care whether it's in a branch or trunk when I do so :) |
| 23:45.28 | strayer | brlcad: when you did you test...what about the PMs I sent you? |
| 23:45.34 | brlcad | PMs? |
| 23:45.45 | brlcad | the bzbb messages you mean? |
| 23:45.51 | strayer | erm, yes |
| 23:46.34 | Erroneous | eww, put your skull back on :) |
| 23:47.05 | strayer | bon appetit |
| 23:47.09 | brlcad | hello clarice |
| 23:47.50 | brlcad | strayer: yes, I think everyone is still interested in seeing stats improve |
| 23:48.09 | brlcad | the problem has been getting people to work together and to work on the svn'd sources :) |
| 23:48.12 | strayer | but what...which parts? |
| 23:48.16 | Erroneous | indeed |
| 23:48.29 | brlcad | which parts? all of it, any of it? |
| 23:48.30 | Erroneous | we have people working on it all over, with no coordination whatsoever |
| 23:49.19 | brlcad | it's like the first that actually coordinates and "plays nicely" as a dev will get their efforts on-line at s.b.o :) |
| 23:49.41 | strayer | oh... |
| 23:50.13 | brlcad | not quite that bad, but everyone seems to enjoy doing their own thing as an "external" entity without integrating |
| 23:50.45 | brlcad | there's so much good talent out their (like yourself!) that stats could be vastly improved :) |
| 23:50.53 | strayer | yeah, because every work so far was useless when it came to an impementation |
| 23:50.53 | brlcad | bleh, there |
| 23:51.22 | brlcad | ugh, freetype's build system sucks |
| 23:52.24 | Constitution | would a global player ranking system (perhaps divided by game style, location, map, or whatever) be a welcome addition to the stats? |
| 23:52.39 | strayer | not really...if they are throughthougt to be modular, they rock :o) |
| 23:53.01 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws <-- improved stats |
| 23:53.14 | AAA_awright | ^^ Flashing neon lights here ^^ |
| 23:54.24 | strayer | brlcad: in my eyes, the only future I see in s.b.o is to use the listserver information (ok, listserver ahs to get all needed info first), because using live-stats are very attractive for ppl to use them |
| 23:54.40 | strayer | ...then, they also are more motivated to help improving |
| 23:55.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 23:55.41 | strayer | AAA_awright: yo did a lot of nice improvements on your site during the last days...good work |
| 23:56.00 | brlcad | strayer: yes, it actually is now too, just doesn't update in real-time like it's supposed to |
| 23:56.06 | AAA_awright | Added overall player activity to main page. |
| 23:56.22 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 23:56.35 | strayer | brlcad: isn't the current code polling the servers too? |
| 23:56.54 | donny_baker | is this planned to be a replacement for the official stats site.. or in addition |
| 23:57.05 | brlcad | erm, yeah, that too -- because as you note, listserver doesn't have all the info it needs atm |
| 23:57.30 | brlcad | donny_baker: what is "this"? |
| 23:57.44 | strayer | so you know what has to be done...and nobody knows the server code better than you (the devs) |
| 23:57.49 | donny_baker | ah, sorry the redjackt stats site |
| 23:58.13 | brlcad | good question, and part of the compilcation :) |
| 23:58.23 | donny_baker | :) |
| 23:58.25 | strayer | graphics are nice...the question is what kind of graphics make sense :o) |
| 23:58.40 | tannerld | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.57 | AAA_awright | Damn. Where? |
| 23:58.59 | strayer | in which way...rouge? ;) |
| 23:59.04 | AAA_awright | Rogue. |
| 23:59.20 | tannerld | looking at the playerlist now |
| 23:59.21 | tannerld | not sure where else |
| 23:59.24 | AAA_awright | Grr. Rouge = red in french |
| 23:59.41 | AAA_awright | Rogue = player class |
| 23:59.45 | AAA_awright | (sorry) |