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| 00:22.22 | brlcad | JeffM: done |
| 00:23.04 | brlcad | JeffM: and fyi .. Erroneous also "has the power" w.r.t. perms and adminage on the server for setup ;-) just in case I didn't mention it before |
| 00:23.27 | brlcad | TylerM: that is the idea |
| 00:26.41 | JeffM | brlcad, you want it to use SQL or flat file? |
| 00:27.48 | brlcad | hmmmm |
| 00:27.55 | brlcad | flat file |
| 00:27.58 | brlcad | outside the web root |
| 00:28.08 | brlcad | i'll need to set the php perms to allow that |
| 00:28.15 | brlcad | mysql is already busy enough as it is |
| 00:30.16 | JeffM | it always puts it up one level |
| 00:30.30 | JeffM | so I'd need a public_html dir or something |
| 00:31.32 | brlcad | erm, seriously? |
| 00:31.41 | JeffM | that's how it's setup |
| 00:31.52 | JeffM | I can mod the php I guess to put it anywhere |
| 00:32.01 | brlcad | then yeah, that's probably what should be done, something "like" a public_html but elsewhere |
| 00:33.57 | JeffM | well you tell me how you want it done, I can mod, or you can give me a dir that's tied to a vhost that can let me put the posts one level up |
| 00:34.30 | JeffM | basiclyit puts them in path/to/script/../posts/ |
| 00:41.37 | brlcad | done |
| 00:41.59 | brlcad | put stuff in the usual place, using pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 00:42.26 | brlcad | have to prefix all commands in that dir with sudo -u www |
| 00:43.02 | JeffM | I have sudo? |
| 00:43.03 | brlcad | that's set up so files will be outside the web root, not in a crit. dir |
| 00:43.14 | brlcad | -u www, yes |
| 00:43.19 | JeffM | ahh |
| 00:43.19 | brlcad | everyone has taht |
| 00:45.11 | JeffM | does the server have "mod rewrite"? |
| 00:45.41 | brlcad | yes |
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| 02:10.30 | Winny | brlcad: pingy |
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| 02:17.16 | donny_baker | he |
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| 02:38.02 | JeffM | ibot dns pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 02:38.07 | JeffM | you suck ibot |
| 02:50.24 | Daveman | haha |
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| 03:00.43 | Winny | ibot dns pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 03:00.48 | Winny | still? |
| 03:00.50 | Winny | :o |
| 03:03.56 | Epyon | Duh, duh, quit quiet here considering the timezones... |
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| 03:43.54 | Macrosoft | list server bug? bloodbath player stats show server as having 36/30 players. |
| 03:44.22 | Macrosoft | it must not count the observers because there is no limit set |
| 03:44.34 | Macrosoft | ...or something like that |
| 03:44.42 | blast007 | that's not a list server bug, that's just how the client shows stuff |
| 03:48.19 | Tedius_ | lol, we have 24 players and 12 observers |
| 03:48.37 | Winny | a gu admin: pingy |
| 04:12.02 | brlcad | Winny: pong |
| 04:12.21 | brlcad | ~dns pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 04:14.06 | Winny | brlcad: any progress ever made on the drupal install? |
| 04:14.34 | Winny | IE: so i can start adding stuff :p |
| 04:15.22 | brlcad | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m2e50e273 |
| 04:16.01 | blast007 | the CSS is borked |
| 04:16.22 | blast007 | mod rewrite issue, it seems |
| 04:16.24 | brlcad | Winny: no, not yet ... I'll let you know -- today was busy with drupal and pastebin if that wasn't obvious :P |
| 04:16.36 | Winny | darn, alright :) |
| 04:16.53 | Winny | if you need / want any help, lemme know |
| 04:17.23 | blast007 | brlcad: things starting with 'pastebin' should not be altered (there is /pastebin.css?ver=4 and /pastebin.js?ver=3 ) |
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| 04:17.43 | brlcad | yeah, I see that |
| 04:18.22 | Winny | why not use the other pastebin? |
| 04:18.24 | brlcad | bah, well why do their silly docs say to do /([a-z0-9]+) |
| 04:18.35 | blast007 | eww, that page uses an XML prolog, and XHTML transistional |
| 04:18.38 | blast007 | yay for quirks mode |
| 04:18.46 | brlcad | blast007: feel free to fix it ;) |
| 04:18.50 | blast007 | I might ;) |
| 04:18.54 | brlcad | dunno where jeff got it from |
| 04:20.14 | blast007 | was already looking at a nice syntax highlighter script :) |
| 04:24.29 | brlcad | ah, looks like he just snatched if off some forum |
| 04:38.31 | brlcad | there we go, all fixed |
| 04:38.54 | brlcad | fugly css |
| 04:39.28 | blast007 | doesn't look that bad now |
| 04:40.03 | TylerM | brlcad: I've been doing a fair bit of drupally admin stuff lately, if you need a hand let me know |
| 04:40.26 | brlcad | TylerM: aiight |
| 04:40.44 | brlcad | i'll let you guys have at it, I just need to move the files |
| 04:40.58 | TylerM | though in the end I largely just unzip more modules and increase memory in php.ini ;) haha |
| 04:41.23 | brlcad | yeah... really funny :P |
| 04:41.37 | brlcad | actually the server's not hurting for memory |
| 04:41.54 | brlcad | mysql is pretty much the bigger pain atm |
| 04:44.01 | blast007 | any idea of what is causing the majority of the queries? is it phpBB? |
| 05:05.12 | brlcad | for the most part, yeah |
| 05:05.22 | brlcad | but those aren't generally the most expensive ones |
| 05:05.35 | brlcad | it's the queries that take a couple seconds that stall out everyone elese |
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| 05:28.46 | Macrosoft | TylerM: pick a name already |
| 05:31.51 | JeffM | brlcad, I see DNS resolved :) |
| 05:32.22 | brlcad | actually it was instant |
| 05:32.30 | brlcad | as soon as I fixed the typo.. |
| 05:32.37 | brlcad | *ahem* |
| 05:33.13 | JeffM | HAH |
| 05:34.11 | JeffM | just gotta get rid of the "what is a private pastebin" now |
| 05:34.45 | brlcad | Winny: it's set up now |
| 05:34.52 | Winny | yay |
| 05:34.58 | Winny | URL? |
| 05:35.19 | brlcad | m.b.o/site/ |
| 05:35.31 | Winny | alright |
| 05:35.32 | JeffM | let me finish mucking with it |
| 05:37.48 | JeffM | ibot pastebin |
| 05:37.48 | ibot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 05:38.02 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 05:38.08 | JeffM | ibot's used by others |
| 05:38.22 | JeffM | ibot bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 05:38.23 | ibot | ...but bzpastebin is already something else... |
| 05:38.29 | JeffM | ibot bzpastebin |
| 05:38.30 | ibot | [bzpastebin] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel, and it archives too. - try http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 05:39.00 | Winny | alright, registered |
| 05:39.01 | JeffM | ibot no bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz a place to put large chunks of text to not flood a channel |
| 05:39.01 | ibot | okay, JeffM |
| 05:39.17 | Macrosoft | you changed ibots syntax? |
| 05:39.36 | JeffM | huh? |
| 05:39.46 | JeffM | Winny, it should not need registration |
| 05:39.52 | Winny | err |
| 05:39.53 | Macrosoft | what happened to using "~" |
| 05:39.59 | JeffM | Macrosoft, you don't have to use that |
| 05:40.03 | JeffM | you can just call it ibot |
| 05:40.04 | Winny | I registered "Winny" |
| 05:40.08 | Winny | it let me.. |
| 05:40.20 | JeffM | you mean you hit the "remember me" button? |
| 05:40.29 | Winny | no |
| 05:40.33 | Winny | I registered.... |
| 05:40.59 | JeffM | I see no reistration on the page |
| 05:41.17 | Winny | "create new account" |
| 05:41.18 | JeffM | oh you went to the drupal |
| 05:41.23 | JeffM | thats not the pastebin |
| 05:41.28 | Winny | heh |
| 05:41.33 | JeffM | that's a blog ;) |
| 05:41.45 | Winny | :p |
| 05:41.51 | JeffM | I am confused |
| 05:42.12 | JeffM | multiple sites being talked about |
| 05:42.14 | Winny | actually, your jeff ;) |
| 05:42.23 | JeffM | wonder if blast feels like mucking with CSS one day |
| 05:42.27 | Macrosoft | how far has jude gotten on bzwb? |
| 05:42.35 | JeffM | <---------------------------> that far |
| 05:42.42 | Macrosoft | ...i havent seen him in a while |
| 05:42.43 | spatialguru | Macrosoft: I hide during the night :) |
| 05:43.06 | spatialguru | So I see lotsa .ca references in bzflag |
| 05:43.10 | Macrosoft | JeffM: what size font would that be? :p |
| 05:43.11 | spatialguru | wuzzup in canuck-land? |
| 05:43.32 | JeffM | spatialguru, servers |
| 05:43.37 | JeffM | the snow keeps em cool |
| 05:43.40 | JeffM | Macrosoft, 4 |
| 05:43.41 | spatialguru | heh |
| 05:43.52 | spatialguru | l8r |
| 05:44.03 | Macrosoft | spatialguru: hey look at the scores! blue is pwning red |
| 05:44.20 | spatialguru | just skyking was low when I left :) |
| 05:44.27 | Macrosoft | spatialguru: except for creative zen |
| 05:44.32 | Winny | brlcad: some configuring needs to be done ebfore I can post, right? |
| 05:44.34 | spatialguru | well, yeah.. ;) |
| 05:44.54 | Macrosoft | spatialguru: ok, now all blues are ahead |
| 05:44.55 | spatialguru | are there many/any bzflaggersin Vancouver BC ? |
| 05:45.03 | spatialguru | that you guys know of? |
| 05:45.04 | JeffM | brlcad, thanks for seting it up, it seems decently fast |
| 05:45.14 | Winny | cause a default user obviously can't post content :p |
| 05:45.18 | JeffM | brlcad, we can set how many items it stores, if space becomes an issue |
| 05:45.27 | JeffM | I think all that is left is to make it not be brown |
| 05:45.37 | Macrosoft | brown? |
| 05:45.46 | JeffM | yes it's a collor |
| 05:45.51 | JeffM | color |
| 05:45.58 | brlcad | Winny: yeah, I've done nothing and intend to do nothing setup-wise anytime soon :) |
| 05:46.15 | Winny | can you zing me to mod so I can do some posting? |
| 05:46.20 | brlcad | JeffM: no problem.. the rewrite rule was fuxored, but no trouble fixing |
| 05:46.27 | JeffM | blast007, feel like poking at a CSS to make it not brown. |
| 05:46.58 | brlcad | JeffM: I cannot imagine space will ever be an issue .. it's just text :) |
| 05:47.06 | brlcad | unless the spambots get all post-happy on it |
| 05:47.12 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:47.16 | brlcad | bzbb generates way more content |
| 05:47.23 | JeffM | it's still nice that it has that ability |
| 05:47.25 | brlcad | and that's not even near a prob. |
| 05:47.29 | JeffM | we set one up at work in a litle ubuntu VM |
| 05:47.33 | Winny | disallow comments :) |
| 05:47.48 | brlcad | JeffM: going to keep the default of delete after a month? |
| 05:48.01 | AAA_awright | 4,14C7o8l312o6r! |
| 05:48.10 | Winny | AAA_awright: ... |
| 05:48.21 | AAA_awright | (Ahem) Uh. |
| 05:48.54 | Macrosoft | BRIGHT!!! |
| 05:48.56 | Winny | alright, almost 2 am.... bb in a few hours :p |
| 05:49.39 | JeffM | brlcad, hadn't thought about it |
| 05:50.45 | Macrosoft | winny must be in eastern time zone |
| 05:57.18 | brlcad | JeffM: k, just wondering, not implying |
| 05:59.30 | Macrosoft | *sleep* |
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| 06:16.13 | brlcad | Winny: sorry, gotta create it again |
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| 09:51.00 | ts | Chestal: ping |
| 09:52.08 | Chestal | ts: pong |
| 09:57.37 | ts | Chestal: I saw your commit to v2_0branch regarding FPS |
| 09:58.10 | ts | Chestal: Do you have a game client for 2.0.x right now? I want to show you something |
| 09:58.38 | Chestal | ts: can we do it later? got no time now |
| 09:58.51 | ts | Chestal: Ok |
| 09:59.30 | ts | Chestal: The short summary is that 0.001f is not high enough. However at higher values the tank begins to jitter |
| 10:00.44 | ts | Chestal: Especially during jumping (rebounce) is very visible at 500 FPS |
| 10:10.33 | KTL | cheater@badgerking christopher reaves |
| 10:12.21 | KTL | where is meteorite asleep maybe |
| 10:12.43 | KTL | Thumper_, you got moderator power too! :) |
| 10:13.05 | Thumper_ | morning KTL |
| 10:13.13 | KTL | morning:) |
| 10:13.25 | KTL | canada woke up:) |
| 10:14.16 | KTL | nice work :) |
| 10:15.34 | Thumper_ | KTL: banned him on badgerking |
| 10:15.51 | KTL | saw it :) |
| 10:17.31 | Thumper_ | KTL: and meteorite is probably sleeping - it's 3:17AM there IIRC |
| 10:17.51 | KTL | it was just for getting the cheater out |
| 10:17.57 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 10:50.16 | ruskie | crw is doing the rounds again |
| 10:50.24 | ruskie | just a heads up for all |
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| 11:01.21 | Plinko | http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com/ |
| 11:01.23 | Plinko | http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com/ |
| 11:01.24 | Plinko | http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com/ |
| 11:01.32 | Plinko | http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com/ |
| 11:01.35 | KTL | argh |
| 11:01.47 | KTL | yes everybody knows allready! |
| 11:02.10 | Plinko | THEY CHEAT!!! |
| 11:02.25 | KTL | most cheats are obvious |
| 11:02.32 | KTL | they will get banned |
| 11:02.41 | Plinko | nall right |
| 11:02.46 | Plinko | all right |
| 11:03.00 | KTL | and if it is not obvious then they still will have trouble in playing against experienced players |
| 11:03.26 | Plinko | Can something be done about the cheat site? |
| 11:04.12 | Plinko | Cheater CRW promoted it at Viper tonight. |
| 11:04.41 | ruskie | KTL, hard to ban dynamic or proxified conns |
| 11:05.44 | Plinko | CRW is cheating asshole. |
| 11:05.54 | ruskie | is he on? |
| 11:06.12 | Plinko | got banned from badgerking |
| 11:06.16 | Plinko | nhe did |
| 11:06.20 | Plinko | he did |
| 11:06.40 | Plinko | and he was promoting the cheat site |
| 11:06.55 | ruskie | he got banned mulitple times today from viper already |
| 11:07.22 | ruskie | lately I just /mute him and start /killing him |
| 11:07.33 | ruskie | makes him leave on his own :) |
| 11:07.59 | Plinko | That's good. |
| 11:08.06 | Plinko | I'm tired of him. |
| 11:08.25 | Plinko | I was at missile wars & he made everyone leave |
| 11:09.31 | Plinko | I'm going to bed. Good night. |
| 11:10.15 | KTL | that plague seems to get worse or am i wrong? |
| 11:10.59 | ruskie | ? |
| 11:11.36 | KTL | well the spammers/simple cheaters |
| 11:11.42 | ruskie | ohh well atleast it was fun... he kept going after ppl and as soon as I saw a bullet pass through him I /killed him :) |
| 11:12.54 | ruskie | though one isue with mutting him is that he'll start spaming with /clientquery then |
| 11:12.59 | ruskie | and last I checked there was no perms for that |
| 11:15.14 | ts | ruskie: I've banned him at viper now |
| 11:15.19 | ruskie | well atm all the ip's he used are banned |
| 11:15.40 | ruskie | ts, were there some other than the 3 me and F12 saw? |
| 11:15.56 | ruskie | 4.something |
| 11:16.02 | ruskie | and 66.something |
| 11:16.46 | ts | ruskie: Those bans are not covering all his IPs |
| 11:17.19 | ts | and really...he has such a nice host dns. |
| 11:17.43 | ts | Use hostbans in such cases |
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| 11:58.01 | ruskie | he does? |
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| 12:03.23 | ruskie | hmm interesting... Plinko had the same ip as CRW... |
| 12:06.08 | Constitution | :-) |
| 12:06.11 | Constitution | very interesting |
| 12:14.20 | Thumper_ | KTL: FYI Plinko is the same IP I banned on badgerking as CRW |
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| 12:28.17 | KTL | mmm ssh mark@127.193.109.66 :) |
| 12:28.45 | KTL | who wants to do a bruteforce attack on crw's machine? :) |
| 12:29.52 | Constitution | that IP isn't responding ;-) |
| 12:30.09 | KTL | The authenticity of host '127.193.109.66 (127.193.109.66)' can't be established. |
| 12:30.10 | KTL | RSA key fingerprint is ad:1f:c1:a7:76:06:ad:18:63:93:96:5b:75:34:16:85. |
| 12:30.10 | KTL | Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? |
| 12:31.01 | KTL | mmm ow starting with 127 ... is that localhost too or something? |
| 12:31.36 | KTL | ok it was just a try :) |
| 12:32.44 | KTL | indeed ... localhost grmbl |
| 12:33.09 | Tedius | KTL does a brute force attack on his own machine |
| 12:33.15 | KTL | thank you yes |
| 12:33.21 | KTL | :) |
| 12:33.32 | KTL | no latency! |
| 12:46.15 | ruskie | KTL, 66.109.193.127 |
| 12:46.22 | ruskie | that's his up |
| 12:48.18 | KTL | i reversed it because i saw one isp doing that once... putting the reverse ip in the dns name |
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| 13:32.19 | TheRedBaron | there's a difference between sata II and sata I cables? |
| 13:35.14 | Thumper_ | TheRedBaron: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/178063-32-sata-cable |
| 13:35.24 | Thumper_ | just from a google search |
| 13:35.48 | donny_baker | and I was just reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Cables_and_connectors |
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| 13:41.53 | TheRedBaron | the wiki has no mention of the difference between the two cables |
| 14:01.07 | donny_baker | TheRedBaron: the lack of information on the difference in cabling is very telling |
| 14:01.39 | donny_baker | a lot of talk about the difference in capabilities, but silent of differences in cabling (in the cabling section) |
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| 14:10.37 | TheRedBaron | donny_baker: Perhaps - But no information - is still, No information |
| 14:11.40 | TheRedBaron | Wikipedia isn't omniscient |
| 14:17.54 | blast007 | does anyone know if Teppic has an alternate email address? |
| 14:20.08 | Winny | blast007: he hasn't been on MSN for quite a while. |
| 14:20.18 | blast007 | k |
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| 16:12.15 | imblack | Hi guys |
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| 16:22.15 | dusan__ | Hi. Can someone help me? I'm having trouble getting sound with bzflag. |
| 16:22.40 | Constitution | dusan__: what OS, and what version of BZFlag? |
| 16:23.31 | dusan__ | Ubuntu 7.04 bzflag 2.08 |
| 16:24.27 | Constitution | does sound work in other applications? |
| 16:24.34 | dusan__ | Yes. |
| 16:25.07 | dusan__ | It says in terminal : *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
| 16:25.09 | dusan__ | Couldn't open audio: No available audio device |
| 16:26.07 | dusan__ | should I install pulseaudio or something? |
| 16:27.05 | Constitution | are there multiple options under "Driver" and "Devices" under "Audio Settings" in the "Options" menu in bzflag? |
| 16:27.30 | dusan__ | there are none |
| 16:27.47 | Erroneous | there are no options, you have to type them in if you want to change them, Constitution |
| 16:27.56 | Constitution | ah, ok |
| 16:28.26 | Erroneous | which you may want to do. try setting the driver to alsa (make sure you press enter after typing in alsa) |
| 16:28.44 | Erroneous | sounds like your copy of sdl was built with pulseaudio support as default output |
| 16:28.47 | Erroneous | which is rather strange |
| 16:31.12 | dusan__ | nothing. |
| 16:31.43 | dusan__ | I installed pulseaudio but nothing again |
| 16:35.22 | dusan__ | set the driver to alsa and device to HDA Intel and nothing. Same message in terminal |
| 16:36.06 | dusan__ | Sorry. Error changed |
| 16:36.11 | dusan__ | ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM HDA Intel |
| 16:36.13 | dusan__ | Couldn't open audio: No available audio device |
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| 16:43.07 | blast007 | don't think you'd use "HDA Intel" as the device |
| 16:43.14 | blast007 | try without a device name |
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| 16:44.40 | dusan__ | Nothing. Same message as before |
| 16:44.41 | dusan__ | *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
| 16:44.43 | dusan__ | Couldn't open audio: No available audio device |
| 16:44.50 | blast007 | hmm |
| 16:45.05 | dusan__ | How about with OSS? |
| 16:45.37 | blast007 | does Ubuntu 7.04 even have OSS? I don't recall seeing it when I checked apt last |
| 16:45.55 | blast007 | only thing I saw was OSS emulation for ALSA |
| 16:46.54 | dusan__ | I think that's correct |
| 16:47.30 | dusan__ | Someone told me priv that I should update to ALSA 1.14 but I don't know how under Ubuntu |
| 16:47.38 | blast007 | trying to think if I tried bzflag on my kubuntu system.. |
| 16:48.15 | blast007 | you'd probably have to build it yourself |
| 16:48.22 | dusan__ | :) |
| 16:54.47 | dusan__ | No other ideas? It looks to me that I should only find what is my PCM name for ALSA |
| 16:55.09 | dusan__ | ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM pcmC0D0p |
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| 17:51.36 | JeffM | Erroneous, where did you find those psatebin themes? |
| 17:52.52 | Erroneous | JeffM: just jacked it from some other guy's pastebin |
| 17:52.58 | JeffM | HAH |
| 17:53.10 | Erroneous | it's GPLed :P |
| 17:53.19 | JeffM | I thought you had found a site with more CSS files |
| 17:53.36 | Erroneous | nope, just searched for pastebin +css +blue or something |
| 17:53.41 | JeffM | heh |
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| 17:54.09 | JeffM | maybe some intrepid web monkey wants to make our CSS look more bzflagish |
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| 18:01.13 | Winny | JeffM: you mean messy? |
| 18:01.25 | Winny | :p |
| 18:03.21 | JeffM | not brown |
| 18:04.05 | blast007 | we could add a United Parcel Service logo to it |
| 18:04.21 | blast007 | then make it even more brown |
| 18:04.42 | Winny | what can brown do for you? |
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| 18:13.06 | TheRedBaron | ~lart scott |
| 18:13.06 | ibot | strangles scott with a 9-pole serial cable |
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| 18:46.02 | awilcox | JeffM: I could be your web monkey...errr...CSS coder. |
| 18:47.02 | Winny | I as well can do CSS. |
| 18:47.21 | Winny | if you want messy CSS, Im your man! |
| 18:48.10 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:49.28 | quine | css eats my soul |
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| 19:36.25 | Winny | brlcad: ping |
| 19:45.39 | Winny | brlcad: un-ping |
| 19:45.42 | Winny | :p |
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| 21:14.34 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
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| 21:27.27 | tannerld | anybody on here know how the clouds are lower on bloodbath's server? |
| 21:28.04 | blast007 | probably made their own, and turned off the regular ones |
| 21:28.36 | Erroneous | cloudHeight most likely |
| 21:28.41 | blast007 | or that |
| 21:28.47 | tannerld | thats a /set for it? |
| 21:29.25 | blast007 | Erroneous: is that a map setting? |
| 21:29.36 | blast007 | s/map/world/ |
| 21:29.38 | Erroneous | blast007: I think so, or there's a patch for it or something |
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| 21:31.54 | blast007 | Erroneous: not in 2.0.x, at least |
| 21:32.21 | Erroneous | blast007: 'twas ages ago |
| 21:33.54 | Erroneous | might have been reverted even |
| 21:37.43 | JeffM | it's always 120* tank height |
| 21:37.59 | Erroneous | blast007: http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx?view=markup&pathrev=10159 |
| 21:38.06 | Erroneous | and it was reverted |
| 21:38.22 | JeffM | why? |
| 21:38.27 | tannerld | lol |
| 21:38.29 | Erroneous | JeffM: lan56 |
| 21:39.02 | JeffM | did he do it in the first place? or break stuff with his cahnges? |
| 21:39.07 | Erroneous | both, iirc |
| 21:39.24 | Erroneous | then he reverted the whole gob (r10160) |
| 21:43.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14623 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzflag/BackgroundRenderer.cxx common/global.cxx): |
| 21:43.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: don't use GL to call the cloud list, it's not a gl list, it's a managed list. |
| 21:43.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: use a bzdb var for the cloud height multiplier |
| 21:44.35 | JeffM | tho techincaly that needs to invalidate the list when the var changes |
| 21:45.13 | JeffM | how does one add a var listener? |
| 21:45.30 | Erroneous | don't remember |
| 21:45.35 | Erroneous | check fontmanager |
| 21:45.58 | Erroneous | and you should set a default value for the bzdb var in statedatabase |
| 21:46.44 | JeffM | where? |
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| 21:47.07 | Erroneous | statedatabase.cxx? |
| 21:47.17 | JeffM | didn't see anything with values in there |
| 21:47.26 | Erroneous | hm, may have moved |
| 21:47.47 | Erroneous | search for const std::string StateDatabase::BZDB_TANKRADIUS |
| 21:48.11 | Erroneous | I don't have the project open at the moment |
| 21:48.36 | JeffM | I put my default in the same place as tank height |
| 21:49.32 | Erroneous | hm |
| 21:49.34 | Erroneous | ok |
| 21:50.08 | Erroneous | things must have been reorganized when I wasn't watching |
| 21:50.14 | Erroneous | probably that sneaky brlcad fellow |
| 21:50.34 | brlcad | what'd I do? |
| 21:51.02 | Erroneous | refactored :) |
| 21:51.02 | brlcad | i haven't messed with tank radius is like 18 months |
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| 21:51.30 | Erroneous | well, sometime between Feb 20 2005 and today ;) |
| 21:51.32 | JeffM | gahhh, damned static functions |
| 21:51.45 | brlcad | what was the change? |
| 21:52.02 | Erroneous | moved bzdb default declarations from statedatabase to global |
| 21:52.13 | brlcad | oh, that wasn't me |
| 21:52.25 | Erroneous | hm, probably some other sneaky fellow then |
| 21:52.31 | brlcad | still erks me a little that the file is called global |
| 21:52.48 | Erroneous | heh |
| 21:54.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14624 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (BackgroundRenderer.cxx BackgroundRenderer.h): reset the cloud list when bzdb vars it calls change, if we had base classes for this stuff, we'd not need to muck with stupid static methods that call non static methods from a passed in THIS. |
| 21:54.25 | brlcad | which decls are you talking about |
| 21:54.31 | brlcad | the CAPS decls are still there, no? |
| 21:54.56 | Erroneous | brlcad: apparently they are in global now |
| 21:55.03 | Erroneous | they used to be in statedatabase |
| 21:55.33 | brlcad | er, is svn out of date then? |
| 21:55.46 | Erroneous | dunno, I haven't looked |
| 21:56.15 | brlcad | i mean just using, http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/common/global.cxx?revision=HEAD |
| 21:56.16 | Erroneous | maybe miscommunication between JeffM and myself |
| 21:56.22 | brlcad | it's not there |
| 21:56.44 | Erroneous | hm, odd. it's in a struct now |
| 21:56.46 | brlcad | but is still here: http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/common/StateDatabase.cxx?revision=HEAD |
| 21:56.46 | JeffM | Erroneous, I thought you meant elsewhere besides globlas |
| 21:56.48 | Erroneous | didn't used to be like that :) |
| 21:57.09 | brlcad | there's the UPPER vars that just declare the strings, then global contains the string to value mapping |
| 21:57.17 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 21:57.18 | brlcad | afaik, it's always been that |
| 21:57.27 | Erroneous | hm. maybe I AM smoking something then |
| 21:57.29 | JeffM | I didn't do the upper var |
| 21:57.31 | JeffM | shold I have? |
| 21:57.37 | brlcad | i thought you meant UPPER was moved to global, but they're not there |
| 21:58.48 | brlcad | the upper vars are just so you can use BZDB.eval(BZDB_SHOTRADIUS) instead of directly using the string like BZDB.eval("_shotRadius"); |
| 21:59.04 | brlcad | kinda fruity and useless |
| 21:59.10 | brlcad | but does decouple |
| 21:59.20 | JeffM | only had to use it in 2 places |
| 21:59.29 | brlcad | you find both throughout the code |
| 22:00.05 | brlcad | the underscore is annoying |
| 22:00.14 | brlcad | and the fact that it's case sensitive, while I'm whining |
| 22:01.30 | AWOSLappy | :P |
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| 22:09.49 | AAA_awright | Testing the latest build, please hold... |
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| 22:25.21 | AAA_awright | Compile finished, testing |
| 22:26.13 | AAA_awright | Stable at boot, opening client (um...) |
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| 22:30.26 | jude- | woohoo! I have internet access again! |
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| 22:34.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14625 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (41 files in 17 dirs): |
| 22:34.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: MASSIVE changes here...added support for pyramids, improved the 3D cursor's appearance, added a configuration/tweaking menu for |
| 22:34.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: selected objects (accessable by right-clicking on a selected object), enabled the Master Configuration Dialog for objects, fixed up |
| 22:34.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Box size rendering, added preliminary mesh data for bases (the next object to get support), fixed copy/paste/duplicate issues, and |
| 22:34.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: other misc. fixes. As it stands now, it is theoretically possible to make free-for-all worlds with boxes and pyramids with |
| 22:34.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: BZWorkbench (i.e. load/save works). |
| 22:34.53 | ruskie | busy busy :) |
| 22:34.57 | jude- | indeed |
| 22:35.06 | jude- | 48 hours without internet access can do that :) |
| 22:39.06 | ruskie | :) |
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| 22:44.30 | Erroneous | mm, cool |
| 22:44.52 | AAA_awright | Opening Xwin... |
| 22:48.23 | AAA_awright | BZFlag 2.1 looks great, guys. Winny: Thanks for "finding" the mountain textures, that improves things majorly |
| 22:48.42 | tannerld | hi jude- |
| 22:48.54 | jude- | hello tannerld |
| 22:50.40 | AAA_awright | _cloudHeightMult does nothing in my old build of bzflag 2.1, building the latest version for linux... |
| 22:51.01 | AAA_awright | Wait. |
| 22:51.16 | AAA_awright | Yah. I moved the textures to my 2.1 on windows. |
| 22:51.46 | tannerld | oooo |
| 22:51.49 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 22:52.20 | tannerld | oooo |
| 22:52.41 | tannerld | hmm |
| 22:52.42 | jude- | tannerld: it still needs a lot of work |
| 22:52.58 | jude- | shift+double-left-click |
| 22:53.13 | tannerld | why the need for shift? |
| 22:53.42 | jude- | shift lets you select multiple objects...and it also lets you unselect the only selected object |
| 22:53.52 | jude- | it's a minor bug |
| 22:53.58 | tannerld | heh |
| 22:54.17 | tannerld | I unselected my box, but the "space menu" didn't change |
| 22:54.35 | jude- | "space menu"? |
| 22:55.00 | tannerld | menu you get when you push the spacebar |
| 22:55.30 | jude- | huh |
| 22:55.34 | jude- | I didn't even know that happened |
| 22:56.50 | jude- | ahh--FLTK thinks mouse-over + SPACE = "open menu button" |
| 22:57.08 | jude- | so it doesn't go away? |
| 22:57.10 | jude- | how so? |
| 22:59.37 | jude- | right |
| 23:00.02 | jude- | that's supposed to be there for now |
| 23:00.07 | tannerld | ah |
| 23:00.15 | jude- | instant access to object tweaking :) |
| 23:01.33 | tannerld | http://i18.tinypic.com/6ezxklz |
| 23:02.10 | jude- | oooo |
| 23:02.15 | jude- | ~tannerld++ |
| 23:02.38 | jude- | ...and only boxes and pyramids? |
| 23:03.01 | tannerld | 4 bases |
| 23:03.05 | jude- | ahh |
| 23:03.11 | jude- | support for those will come later tonight |
| 23:03.15 | tannerld | oooo |
| 23:03.33 | jude- | lol |
| 23:03.36 | jude- | not necessary |
| 23:03.42 | tannerld | ~karma jude- |
| 23:03.42 | ibot | jude- has karma of 67 |
| 23:03.47 | ruskie | jude-++ |
| 23:03.48 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:03.54 | blast007 | ~jude-++ |
| 23:03.55 | tannerld | ruskie: forgot the ~ |
| 23:03.59 | TylerM | can you have negative karma? I probably do ;) |
| 23:04.04 | ruskie | sounds broken |
| 23:04.08 | blast007 | TylerM: yeah, you can |
| 23:04.10 | blast007 | ~karma CBG |
| 23:04.10 | ibot | cbg has karma of -435 |
| 23:04.14 | TylerM | heh |
| 23:04.15 | TylerM | oh boy |
| 23:04.23 | ruskie | my bot listens to in dialog ++ -- |
| 23:04.28 | ruskie | no need to add it's trigger |
| 23:04.50 | blast007 | ruskie: doesn't mean it's broken :) |
| 23:05.07 | tannerld | ahhh |
| 23:05.35 | donny_baker | jude-++ |
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| 23:05.46 | donny_baker | ~karma jude- |
| 23:05.46 | ibot | jude- has karma of 68 |
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| 23:06.08 | jude- | tannerld: I'll see if I can fix that tonight as well :) |
| 23:06.27 | donny_baker | ruski: i think it doesn't work for jude-++ :P |
| 23:06.27 | tannerld | jude-: :) |
| 23:06.40 | tannerld | jude-: nice separation in the map files :) |
| 23:06.47 | jude- | heh. thanks :) |
| 23:07.43 | donny_baker | ruskie: look at the log, 2 jude-++ and one ~jude-++ and count only went up one... |
| 23:07.55 | donny_baker | ~jude-++ |
| 23:08.30 | jude- | c'mon guys, the changes weren't THAT big :) |
| 23:08.31 | *** part/#bzflag LongDon (n=LongDon@host-091-097-019-100.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 23:08.40 | jude- | just wide-spread |
| 23:08.46 | ruskie | anyway off to bed... |
| 23:08.46 | jude- | i.e. brlcad will have a lot to read |
| 23:09.02 | jude- | i.e. lots of small changes across a lot of files :) |
| 23:11.58 | donny_baker | jude-: but the progress is exciting... exciting changes (no matter how small) earn Karma :) |
| 23:12.04 | donny_baker | keep up the good work |
| 23:12.08 | jude- | heh. will do |
| 23:12.16 | tannerld | ~donny_baker++ |
| 23:12.39 | donny_baker | heck, i think I might even try my hand at map making once workbench is done |
| 23:12.45 | tannerld | oooo |
| 23:12.53 | jude- | ~donny_baker++ |
| 23:12.58 | tannerld | lol |
| 23:13.19 | jude- | more maps ==> more fun gameplay ==> more BZFlag users |
| 23:13.23 | tannerld | would you call bzwb semi-functional |
| 23:13.37 | jude- | yeah--it's still missing a few things :) |
| 23:14.06 | AWOSLappy | jude-: all of bz-dom is counting on you to add bases! :) |
| 23:14.12 | tannerld | jude-: is worldweapon not supposed to be in the object list? |
| 23:14.16 | donny_baker | i just never had the time for messing with the hand coding |
| 23:14.29 | jude- | tannerld: didn't notice that; will add |
| 23:14.43 | jude- | AWOSLappy: no worries; they'll be on-line tonight :) |
| 23:14.45 | AWOSLappy | donny_baker: :O that is the alternative?! |
| 23:14.50 | AWOSLappy | jude-: yay |
| 23:15.00 | AWOSLappy | I thought this was just a better renderer to replace a sucky one |
| 23:15.30 | donny_baker | AWOSLappy: for the most part if you want any 2.0 functionality |
| 23:15.51 | jude- | AWOSLappy: you made a renderer? can I see? |
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| 23:16.11 | donny_baker | most editors only support 1.0 functionality, a few support a subset of 2.0 functionality |
| 23:16.12 | AWOSLappy | jude-: on a scale of 1-10, where 1 means my 8-year-old cousin can use it and 10 means a gfx guy with a master's degree would have problems, how hard would you rate bzwb? |
| 23:16.30 | jude- | AWOSLappy: currently, it's about a 3 |
| 23:16.33 | AWOSLappy | jude-: no no no, I thought you were replacing a sucky renderer |
| 23:16.37 | AWOSLappy | not making the first one :P |
| 23:17.01 | jude- | AWOSLappy: ahhh |
| 23:17.02 | AWOSLappy | well, I guess replace "renderer" with "bzflag world editor" |
| 23:17.18 | jude- | there are several existing ones, IIRC |
| 23:17.36 | jude- | ...it's just that none of them support ALL bzw 2.0 features |
| 23:17.36 | AWOSLappy | jude-: ahh |
| 23:17.39 | jude- | BZWTools comes close, IIRC... |
| 23:17.43 | jude- | ...but that's for Blender3D |
| 23:17.44 | AWOSLappy | ooh it's multiplatform too? does it work on Win32? |
| 23:17.49 | jude- | which is a 9 on your difficulty scale |
| 23:18.00 | AWOSLappy | jude-: ahh hehe I figured :) |
| 23:18.12 | jude- | AWOSLappy: DTRemenak was kind enough to add MSVC8 project files :) |
| 23:18.19 | jude- | ...so, it will be cross-platform |
| 23:18.20 | AWOSLappy | jude-: aww yay |
| 23:18.26 | AWOSLappy | DTRemenak: yay to you too :) |
| 23:18.31 | jude- | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 23:18.35 | AWOSLappy | yes |
| 23:18.54 | AWOSLappy | aw |
| 23:18.55 | AWOSLappy | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 23:19.02 | Erroneous | he hasn't updated the project files yet, so don't expect it to work right now :) |
| 23:19.09 | jude- | right |
| 23:19.10 | AWOSLappy | silly ibot and his needing to wait 10 seconds |
| 23:19.15 | JeffM | shoudl make em as VC71 files |
| 23:19.17 | AWOSLappy | aw... |
| 23:19.22 | JeffM | then let them auto upgrade |
| 23:19.24 | AWOSLappy | JeffM: yeah that is one thing I just realise |
| 23:19.25 | Erroneous | don't have 7.1 at home |
| 23:19.30 | AWOSLappy | I don't have 8 |
| 23:19.33 | AWOSLappy | at all |
| 23:19.34 | jude- | JeffM: don't have VC at all |
| 23:19.36 | JeffM | Erroneous, take yours home |
| 23:19.56 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:20.06 | JeffM | it's not an activation thingy |
| 23:20.10 | jude- | AWOSLappy: in the end, there will probably be a Windows installer as well as the source code |
| 23:20.19 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I'll put up my MSDN discs for you to d/l...heck I'll send you copies in the real mail |
| 23:20.27 | Erroneous | AWOSLappy: oh, I have access to it |
| 23:20.28 | AWOSLappy | jude-: ohhh okay |
| 23:20.29 | jude- | ...if I can find out how to make them :P |
| 23:20.31 | JeffM | AWOSLappy, it's not that he can't get the software ;) |
| 23:20.37 | JeffM | he HAS VC71 here |
| 23:20.47 | Erroneous | I just don't have it installed at home. lazy bastard and all that. |
| 23:20.53 | AWOSLappy | Ahh. |
| 23:21.06 | Erroneous | 8's better anyway :)] |
| 23:21.12 | JeffM | yeah probably is |
| 23:21.21 | JeffM | does it do activation? |
| 23:21.24 | Erroneous | no |
| 23:21.33 | JeffM | hmm, |
| 23:21.35 | AWOSLappy | 7.1 doesn't either |
| 23:21.40 | JeffM | I know 7.1 dosn't |
| 23:21.48 | Erroneous | at least, mine didn't |
| 23:21.52 | JeffM | maybe I'll take 8 home and install it and see |
| 23:21.53 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I'm happy with 7.1... |
| 23:22.02 | Erroneous | and the MSDN copy we have here doesn't either |
| 23:22.24 | AWOSLappy | I don't have the time ( *cough* or disk space *cough* ) to upgrade to 8 |
| 23:22.31 | JeffM | external drives man |
| 23:22.42 | JeffM | Erroneous, we'll buy some more |
| 23:22.48 | JeffM | someday(tm) |
| 23:22.48 | Erroneous | yup, I know |
| 23:22.50 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:23.03 | Erroneous | and we're not using it for production code (afaik) |
| 23:23.10 | JeffM | nope |
| 23:23.11 | Erroneous | 'cept for james |
| 23:23.13 | JeffM | I'll be "testing" |
| 23:23.24 | JeffM | he dosn't do the final builds |
| 23:23.29 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 23:23.51 | tannerld | jude-: http://mybzflag.net/?p=61 O.o |
| 23:24.22 | jude- | tannerld: sweet! thanks! |
| 23:24.33 | jude- | ~tannerld++ |
| 23:26.11 | eTangenT | dang jude |
| 23:26.13 | eTangenT | that's nice |
| 23:27.52 | Winny | jude-: are the textures going to be any less-stretchy eventually? |
| 23:28.14 | tannerld | lol |
| 23:28.31 | jude- | Winny: eventually...once I can figure out how :) |
| 23:28.38 | Winny | :) |
| 23:28.46 | jude- | it's on my todo list |
| 23:29.06 | Winny | yay |
| 23:31.57 | jude- | ...or rather... |
| 23:32.05 | KTL | are graphics cards capable of toon/cell shading? |
| 23:32.05 | Winny | ew, harry potter |
| 23:32.12 | Winny | ~jude--- |
| 23:32.12 | Winny | :P |
| 23:32.17 | Winny | ~jude-++ |
| 23:32.26 | jude- | sorry |
| 23:32.34 | jude- | don't have a choice :/ |
| 23:32.38 | Winny | ): |
| 23:32.46 | KTL | ping JeffM |
| 23:33.15 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: what license? |
| 23:33.32 | Erroneous | AWOSLappy: never mind |
| 23:34.29 | donny_baker | jude-: I liked the movie... best HP yet |
| 23:35.25 | KTL | unping JeffM, nehe.gamedev.net says it is possible! |
| 23:35.48 | JeffM | huh? |
| 23:36.07 | KTL | toon shading with opengl |
| 23:36.15 | JeffM | oh sure |
| 23:36.21 | JeffM | it's simplest with shaders |
| 23:36.27 | JeffM | but you can do it with a fake geo outline |
| 23:37.35 | KTL | http://users.pandora.be/dpf/som/alle2.jpg <- i want to make a prog -if i find time again, eternal problem- that can work with this type of graphs interactively |
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