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| 00:06.11 | JeffM | awww |
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| 00:11.24 | Erroneous | howdy Epyon |
| 00:11.39 | jude- | hello Epyon |
| 00:12.07 | Epyon | yo, recconect ;] |
| 00:12.39 | Epyon | I'm here all the time :P |
| 00:13.05 | Epyon | BTW, anyone got a spare time-machine? o.O |
| 00:13.25 | tannerld | Epyon: sorry, left mine at the office |
| 00:13.45 | jude- | Epyon: sorry, mine's in the shop for repairs :/ |
| 00:13.50 | Epyon | damn, try to take it next time you'll be there :/ |
| 00:14.12 | Epyon | I'd really need at least a week inserted into my current position o.O |
| 00:14.17 | JeffM | wow so all I have to do to get the kiddies to quit it, is to confront them? |
| 00:14.32 | jude- | JeffM: referring to Macrosoft? |
| 00:14.36 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:14.40 | jude- | I guess so :) |
| 00:14.54 | Epyon | I'm afraid the midterm generator will be far below my exoectations :/ |
| 00:20.30 | Epyon | jude-, what's the current state of the editor? |
| 00:21.27 | jude- | Epyon: feature-freeze on the model has started |
| 00:21.39 | jude- | currently, I'm de-kludging the parsing API |
| 00:22.00 | jude- | (i.e. making it completely ignorant of what objects will be supported) |
| 00:22.19 | jude- | (i.e. so it has to query the Model for supported objects) |
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| 00:24.22 | jude- | how goes it on your project? |
| 00:29.22 | Constitution | was there a plugin or something that would pipe reports to an IRC channel (I believe silvercat used it)? |
| 00:30.40 | Hannibal | I think there was something that would show chat on a server in IRC, may be what you're looking for.. |
| 00:31.51 | brad | hepcat has a bot to show reports in IRC |
| 00:32.44 | Epyon | jude-, not that good, RL keeps getting in the way :/ |
| 00:33.59 | JeffM | that's why you gots to kick RL in the throat |
| 00:34.08 | Erroneous | shove RL back in its place |
| 00:34.10 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 00:34.12 | jude- | lol |
| 00:34.20 | Constitution | Hannibal, brad: not sure which it was, but either would work... anyone know how to get it? |
| 00:34.35 | JeffM | boards may have it |
| 00:34.49 | JeffM | or it'd be simple to make a new one that does it with libIRC |
| 00:35.33 | jude- | Epyon: sorry to hear that :/ |
| 00:35.34 | Epyon | jude-, Erroneous, unfortunately it's such things that I really can't risk to ignore -- PhD studies examinations and last semester exam (if I fail, I wont graduate) |
| 00:36.00 | Erroneous | ahh |
| 00:36.03 | jude- | I see |
| 00:36.08 | Erroneous | yeah, those are pretty important :) |
| 00:36.28 | Epyon | Nobody told me that PhD entrance exams were BEFORE the summer! |
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| 00:36.33 | Erroneous | heh |
| 00:36.46 | tannerld | Constitution: you could probaly use BZFlag_Info (if you know php) to get the reports and send to IRC using SmartIRC |
| 00:38.05 | Epyon | Yet, I'll do all in my might, to submit something a;ready playable before the 9th deadline. |
| 00:42.49 | Erroneous | we'd like that, but don't risk your exams for it :) a poor mid-summer evaluation can be overcome by the real deadline; a poor phd entrance exam means you have to wait a whole year ;) |
| 00:53.24 | Constitution | oh, bzirc.pl, duh :-) |
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| 00:53.39 | Constitution | er, I guess that's for messages |
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| 01:34.27 | L4m3r | ~bzsvn |
| 01:34.28 | ibot | bzsvn is probably http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
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| 03:06.27 | Macrosoft | problem: cant get fairctf plugin to work |
| 03:06.51 | blast007 | define the problem a little more |
| 03:07.00 | blast007 | does it show up under /listplugins ? |
| 03:07.20 | blast007 | we aren't mind readers :) |
| 03:07.44 | Macrosoft | server says /listplugins is an unknown command |
| 03:08.31 | Macrosoft | this is the line in my config for the plugin: |
| 03:08.41 | Macrosoft | -loadplugin "/home/blane/Documents/bzfs_config/plugins/fairCTF.so,0.25:3:5" |
| 03:09.00 | Macrosoft | see anything wrong? |
| 03:10.38 | Macrosoft | *looking up name of plugin author* |
| 03:12.06 | blast007 | were you an admin when you ran that command? |
| 03:12.12 | Macrosoft | yes |
| 03:12.28 | blast007 | then you didn't build the server with plugin support |
| 03:13.01 | Macrosoft | i didnt build it at all, i installed it through urpmi |
| 03:13.12 | blast007 | then they didn't build it with plugin support |
| 03:13.21 | blast007 | go download the source and build it yourself |
| 03:13.47 | blast007 | and when you ./configure, add --enable-shared to that |
| 03:13.51 | blast007 | for 2.0.x |
| 03:13.52 | Macrosoft | ok |
| 03:19.37 | Macrosoft | i dont see a configure script, but there is an autogen.sh script...should i use that |
| 03:19.49 | brlcad | if there is no configure script, then yes |
| 03:19.54 | Macrosoft | ok |
| 03:20.39 | Macrosoft | does that --enable-shared switch work for the autogen too? |
| 03:21.53 | blast007 | no |
| 03:21.58 | blast007 | autogen makes the configure script |
| 03:22.04 | Macrosoft | oh |
| 03:22.27 | brlcad | DTRemenak: sure |
| 03:22.49 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 03:22.57 | Macrosoft | now im getting this error: |
| 03:23.06 | Macrosoft | bash: ./autogen.sh: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 03:24.48 | DTRemenak | build from a tarball, not a zip |
| 03:24.54 | DTRemenak | zips have windows linebreaks |
| 03:25.01 | Macrosoft | ok |
| 03:27.48 | L4m3r | since everyone's awake... should pythonian be listbanned? he served up eight bots last night |
| 03:28.27 | L4m3r | he waits for everyone to go to sleep :) |
| 03:29.19 | brlcad | not been every night though |
| 03:29.30 | L4m3r | not quite |
| 03:29.33 | L4m3r | but almost |
| 03:29.50 | L4m3r | last night he was 2nd on the list without any human players |
| 03:30.16 | Macrosoft | maybe he doesnt know he can play against his bots on his machine |
| 03:30.35 | blast007 | Macrosoft: he knows :P |
| 03:30.55 | L4m3r | yes, of course getting that set up now |
| 03:30.59 | brlcad | :) |
| 03:31.02 | L4m3r | ...some website work, first |
| 03:31.22 | DTRemenak | hm, interesting. just got a 2.0.9 client lockup; seems that dt is infinity... |
| 03:33.09 | brlcad | you cheater |
| 03:33.12 | L4m3r | is each student going to get an SVN branch, or should I set up an SVN repo on my box, or what? :P |
| 03:33.29 | brlcad | that's a loaded question -- neither ;) |
| 03:33.46 | brlcad | or, I suppose, it's the "or what" :) |
| 03:33.59 | L4m3r | ;) |
| 03:34.03 | brlcad | long day |
| 03:34.14 | brlcad | long codeless day |
| 03:34.26 | L4m3r | should I just post patches? |
| 03:35.33 | brlcad | you get the pleasure of working on the svn trunk, or on a branch if you'd rather be more insulated |
| 03:36.03 | brlcad | nah, there was going to be a whole patch submission thing, but you can thank jude- for not needing to do that :) |
| 03:36.21 | brlcad | you already have access iirc? |
| 03:36.40 | L4m3r | yes |
| 03:36.45 | L4m3r | wow, trunk? O_O |
| 03:36.54 | L4m3r | oh well. it's already busted right? :D |
| 03:38.28 | tannerld | ~Tedius++ |
| 03:48.13 | brlcad | busted? |
| 03:48.53 | brlcad | shouldn't be busted, just a few lil menu bugs and other issues -- nothing that really affects what you're doing |
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| 03:56.04 | Macrosoft | ok, plugins work now... thanks to blast and brlcad |
| 03:56.19 | Macrosoft | ~blast007++ |
| 03:56.28 | Macrosoft | ~brlcad++ |
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| 04:09.38 | brlcad | wow, http://bzstats.strayer.de/bzinfo/?lang=en |
| 04:09.47 | jzaun | heh... I broke something with my playing around.... I redownloaded the osX 2.0.8 package but when I try to run it, it just dies |
| 04:09.53 | jzaun | hi brlcad :-) |
| 04:10.02 | brlcad | interesting tie-in of svn commits to particular bzflag functionality |
| 04:10.52 | jzaun | brlcad: I hear you are the Mac guru around here :-) |
| 04:11.24 | brlcad | hello |
| 04:11.27 | brlcad | what's up? |
| 04:11.41 | brlcad | it probably dies because of the data directory |
| 04:11.50 | brlcad | you're probably compiled and run bzflag from the command-line |
| 04:11.52 | jzaun | yah... thats what I was thinking to |
| 04:11.59 | brlcad | that messes with the data directory setting |
| 04:12.00 | jzaun | ust not sure how to fix it |
| 04:12.18 | brlcad | edit your config, remove the directory line |
| 04:12.35 | brlcad | go to ~/Library/Application Support/BZFlag/2.0/config iirc |
| 04:12.44 | brlcad | in finder or on command line, whatever works |
| 04:12.46 | jzaun | thats the bit I needed to know :-) |
| 04:13.01 | jzaun | I just bought a mac.. ben on linux for 10 years so its a bit new to me |
| 04:14.24 | Macrosoft | brlcad: ha, that stats site says my strength index is -52575.80 |
| 04:14.25 | brlcad | hm, i suppose jeff's OSFile traverses the subdirectories |
| 04:14.31 | jzaun | I was wondering... I got the SVN code... I can get it to compile (with xcode) and make a package... but what are the settings I should use with ./configure to make the resulting package work? |
| 04:15.09 | BenUrban | jzaun: iirc you can use the existing xcode project |
| 04:15.53 | jzaun | BenUrban: If (from a fresh checkout) I just click the xcode it fails... I need to run ./autogen.sh then ./configure, then it compiles ok... |
| 04:16.05 | BenUrban | i see |
| 04:16.18 | BenUrban | well it's been a long while since i tried it, so good luck |
| 04:16.33 | jzaun | but when I do that the resulting package seems to have a data directory issue |
| 04:17.27 | brlcad | "to make the resulting package work" .. what does that mean? |
| 04:17.39 | blast007 | brlcad: he's trying to build a .app |
| 04:17.41 | brlcad | jzaun: are you on branch or 2.0? |
| 04:17.42 | jzaun | err... or not it seems it was fixed with the above config edit... nevermind |
| 04:17.46 | brlcad | er branch or trunk? |
| 04:17.54 | jzaun | brlcad: 2.0 branch |
| 04:17.59 | brlcad | ah |
| 04:18.00 | jzaun | I get it to compile and it work :-) |
| 04:18.04 | jzaun | I'm happy |
| 04:18.25 | brlcad | jzaun: if you pull from a checkout, you have to run ./autogen.sh before the XCode projet will work |
| 04:18.47 | brlcad | it was never meant to be run from checkout, only from source distributions |
| 04:19.28 | jzaun | brlcad: seemed I needed to run configure too or it complained about a missing file: BZFLAG-INFO.PLIST |
| 04:19.30 | brlcad | i've changed the xcode project on the trunk so that the autogen.sh step goes away, so at least down the road that won't be a problem |
| 04:19.42 | brlcad | hm, ah yeah -- configure too |
| 04:19.51 | jzaun | ok. |
| 04:19.52 | jzaun | cool |
| 04:20.21 | jzaun | so... thats not a problem then I got the steps to compile 2.0 branch. Next is to try to compile trunk |
| 04:20.59 | jzaun | but once I have it compiled if I wanted to make a release (for my own fun...) whats the next steps to get a dmg put together? |
| 04:22.33 | brlcad | that's quite a bit more involved |
| 04:23.25 | brlcad | as the binary that you build is generally only going to work on your version and platform type without adding a slew of extra flags and special compiles of the external deps so that they link in |
| 04:23.54 | brlcad | making the dmg is like making any app dmg, though I have a template and some scripts on hand locally that I use when it comes time to release |
| 04:24.36 | brlcad | plan on integrating some of that in for the next release as it comes time for it, so it's more automated, but we're not too close to a release atm |
| 04:24.46 | jzaun | It really limited to my system, or anyone with 10.4 (intel)? |
| 04:25.03 | brlcad | 10.4 (intel) is the "limitation" |
| 04:25.15 | jzaun | ahh... ok :-) |
| 04:25.30 | brlcad | e.g. won't work on earlier versions, 10.3, 10.2, and won't work ppc anything |
| 04:25.48 | jzaun | to make a univeral 10.* os x binary (intel or ppc) what is involved? |
| 04:25.58 | brlcad | a bunch of extra compilation flags |
| 04:26.12 | jzaun | settable in the xcode project file or commandline? |
| 04:26.24 | Macrosoft | how do i make the logDetail plugin output to a file? |
| 04:26.32 | brlcad | which I can't recite off the top of my head, I have them documented somehere |
| 04:27.04 | brlcad | jzaun: you can't set anything in the xcode project as that is really just a wrapper on the gnu build system that is used on all the other nix platforms |
| 04:27.05 | jzaun | brlcad: sorry for all the questions... I'm learning as I go with osx :-) |
| 04:27.20 | jzaun | ahh... ok |
| 04:27.37 | jzaun | I didn't realize it was just a wrapper... |
| 04:27.39 | brlcad | i.e. the xcode project just runs ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make for you, then copies stuff around and puts the .app together |
| 04:27.55 | jzaun | so much to learn about the mac :-) |
| 04:28.00 | brlcad | that makes it a zero-maintenance project that is always in sync as files are moved/added/renamed, etc |
| 04:28.20 | brlcad | since the GBS files are always up to date |
| 04:28.33 | brlcad | as they are the main build setup |
| 04:29.00 | jzaun | GBS? |
| 04:29.20 | brlcad | so, to build a universal, it's like building a universal if you were making a simple hello world command-line tool |
| 04:29.25 | brlcad | ~gbs |
| 04:29.59 | brlcad | ~botsnack |
| 04:29.59 | ibot | aw, gee, brlcad |
| 04:30.06 | blast007 | heh |
| 04:30.09 | blast007 | ~status |
| 04:30.10 | ibot | Since Tue Jun 19 04:22:11 2007, there have been 36 modifications, 280 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 183 commands. I have been awake for 2d 7m 58s this session, and currently reference 113126 factoids. I'm using about 19360 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3419.97/256.54 child 0/0 |
| 04:30.34 | nn-laptop | hi just got xworld back on-line |
| 04:30.55 | blast007 | nn-laptop: uh, thx |
| 04:30.57 | Macrosoft | how does ibot determine who's a moron or not |
| 04:30.59 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 04:31.32 | jzaun | brlcad: sounds like building a universal adds quite a bit more complexity |
| 04:31.42 | nn-laptop | have you seen the Advanced Tank Pillbox ctf |
| 04:31.51 | nn-laptop | yet? |
| 04:32.02 | brlcad | ~GBS is the GNU Build System, aka the Autotools, aka the suite of tools frequently used on UNIX and UNIX-like platforms that utilize the GNU Autoconf, Automake, and Libtool build tools. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_build_system for more details. |
| 04:32.03 | ibot | brlcad: okay |
| 04:32.35 | nn-laptop | i think i broke the max people on one server at one time requard |
| 04:32.46 | nn-laptop | today |
| 04:32.51 | nn-laptop | ? |
| 04:32.56 | brlcad | jzaun: not much -- really just a bunch of FLAGS to configure |
| 04:32.57 | blast007 | requard? |
| 04:33.02 | jzaun | Its mice of apple to use the standard build tools :-) |
| 04:33.07 | Macrosoft | nn-laptop: are you just here to advertise your server? |
| 04:33.08 | brlcad | and massively bloated binaries |
| 04:33.10 | nn-laptop | record |
| 04:33.17 | nn-laptop | no |
| 04:33.24 | blast007 | nn-laptop: how many people were there? |
| 04:33.35 | blast007 | all 15? |
| 04:33.45 | nn-laptop | 30 or 40 cant rember |
| 04:34.04 | blast007 | either way, you didn't beat the record |
| 04:34.19 | nn-laptop | it was in first for a long time ther |
| 04:34.25 | Macrosoft | whats the record, 200? |
| 04:34.37 | jzaun | well, I'd be interesting in seeing them :-) would be a learning experience for me. as well as the steps to make a dmg. heck if you had a URL for a general doc on ow to make dmgs that would be cool |
| 04:34.39 | nn-laptop | wow ok i didnt |
| 04:34.40 | Macrosoft | nobody would beat that |
| 04:35.05 | Macrosoft | unless server is modded to accept more players |
| 04:35.12 | nn-laptop | who made that one |
| 04:35.15 | BenUrban | as the maintainer of osx apps for a number of GBS-based projects, i can tell you that it is not fun to set up an xcode project to do much of that work for you |
| 04:35.33 | nn-laptop | record |
| 04:35.46 | BenUrban | just today i made one for scorched3d |
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| 04:35.54 | jude- | hello all |
| 04:35.55 | blast007 | hi jude- |
| 04:36.01 | Constitution | hi jude- |
| 04:36.05 | BenUrban | hiya jude- |
| 04:36.15 | jzaun | BenUrban: it would be something I'd like to learn how to do though |
| 04:36.54 | Macrosoft | anyone know if bzfs can output to a log file? |
| 04:36.54 | BenUrban | jzaun: check out http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=38933 |
| 04:37.32 | DTRemenak | Macrosoft: do you seriously not read, or do you forget the answer from day to day? |
| 04:37.54 | BenUrban | and >> |
| 04:38.05 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 04:38.06 | jzaun | thanks :-) |
| 04:38.13 | BenUrban | jzaun: heh yw |
| 04:38.34 | Macrosoft | did someone answer it already, i didnt see it? |
| 04:38.46 | blast007 | yeah, someone did |
| 04:38.50 | blast007 | go google it now |
| 04:38.52 | jude- | Macrosoft: seriously, you don't know what |, >, and >> do from the UNIX shell? |
| 04:39.11 | blast007 | Macrosoft: go google output redirection |
| 04:39.12 | BenUrban | i still think it's pretty damn impressive to be able to put such an xcode project together in 24 hours, having first seen the game a few days before |
| 04:39.24 | blast007 | jude-: those even work in the Windows command prompt ;) |
| 04:39.33 | BenUrban | >> works too? |
| 04:39.34 | jude- | heh--didn't know that :) |
| 04:39.57 | blast007 | BenUrban: yeah |
| 04:40.04 | BenUrban | interesting |
| 04:40.11 | BenUrban | ok that's a lie |
| 04:40.12 | jzaun | BenUrban: I hope to get that good with xcode eventually |
| 04:40.16 | BenUrban | it's not interesting at all |
| 04:40.22 | BenUrban | jzaun: good luck |
| 04:40.45 | BenUrban | the first step is having a mac :) |
| 04:41.03 | BenUrban | and the second step is installing xcode tools... |
| 04:41.05 | jzaun | BenUrban: though it has to update .xcode to .xcodeproj for me at least :-) |
| 04:41.15 | jzaun | BenUrban: got step 1 and 2 done :-) |
| 04:41.21 | BenUrban | yeah .xcode is for 1.2+ iirc |
| 04:41.31 | jzaun | BenUrban: Mac is less than 2 days old :-D |
| 04:41.35 | BenUrban | sweet |
| 04:41.48 | BenUrban | wanna help me with scorched3d? ;) |
| 04:41.54 | jzaun | $3400.00 USD worth of sweet |
| 04:42.10 | BenUrban | wow |
| 04:42.12 | BenUrban | mac pro? |
| 04:42.15 | jzaun | yup |
| 04:42.19 | BenUrban | sweet |
| 04:42.49 | jzaun | heck, that was with the educational discount too. |
| 04:42.58 | BenUrban | wow |
| 04:43.26 | jzaun | I still need to get the 4gig of ram (cheeper aftermarket than from apple, by 500 dollars) but that can wait for a few months 2 gig is working for now |
| 04:44.04 | BenUrban | 1gb is not enough :/ |
| 04:44.17 | BenUrban | especially when the hd has about 50 mb free |
| 04:44.18 | jzaun | apple won't let you buy 1 gig any more, 2 is the smallest amount |
| 04:44.33 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 04:45.05 | BenUrban | hmph |
| 04:45.11 | BenUrban | i have one bank empty |
| 04:45.25 | BenUrban | <3 system profiler |
| 04:45.55 | jzaun | yah, apple is either 2 gig ( 1 in each slot) or 4 gig (2 in each slot) those are the only options for the mbp any more |
| 04:46.11 | brlcad | jzaun: no, I first learned most of what I know well well before there were any web pages (pre 10.0 days) so I haven't kept links around .. though I'm sure a search will pull up lots of links nowdays |
| 04:46.20 | jzaun | but the new 17" display with the high definition is really nice |
| 04:47.21 | brlcad | BenUrban: hm, what was/is impressive? |
| 04:47.55 | brlcad | (giddy giddy, can't wait) |
| 04:48.12 | BenUrban | hmm? impressive about what? |
| 04:48.26 | brlcad | 00:39 < BenUrban> i still think it's pretty damn impressive to be able to put such an xcode project together in 24 hours, having first seen the game a few days before |
| 04:48.35 | BenUrban | ah |
| 04:49.00 | brlcad | jzaun: trunk has the new .xcodeproj too |
| 04:49.16 | jzaun | brlcad: cool :-) |
| 04:49.27 | BenUrban | the fact that i managed to create an xcode project, from zero to unibin, for scorched3d in 24 hours |
| 04:49.43 | brlcad | probably might even work with the 2.0 branch, though you might have to turn on/off bzrobots |
| 04:49.56 | brlcad | BenUrban: ah |
| 04:50.29 | BenUrban | then again having the fully-configured source tree did help |
| 04:50.30 | BenUrban | slightly |
| 04:50.48 | BenUrban | at least it let me know that i didn't have to make a config.h or anything |
| 04:51.05 | brlcad | jzaun: I'd be delighted to see someone else pick up the brunt of the Mac maintenance in bzflag if you (or whomever) simply remains active/involved |
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| 04:51.58 | jzaun | brlcad: I'm interested in learning, documenting all the steps, helping but not sure if I could do it full time at the moment |
| 04:52.29 | brlcad | nobody does it "full time".. it's just a matter of remaining involved (over months, seasons, years even) ;) |
| 04:53.03 | brlcad | taking up responsibilities, mild expectations |
| 04:54.25 | BenUrban | i'd love to be able to do that myself, if i were still interested.. |
| 04:54.38 | BenUrban | also, if i didn't already have several other projects going on |
| 04:55.43 | jude- | O.o |
| 04:55.49 | Macrosoft | CHEATER |
| 04:55.56 | jude- | can we ban him? |
| 04:56.02 | Macrosoft | i dont know |
| 04:56.06 | *** kick/#bzflag [BZFlagCheat!n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad] by brlcad (not tonight, please) |
| 04:56.11 | jude- | lol |
| 04:56.13 | Constitution | or ever, please |
| 04:56.25 | jude- | thanks brlcad :) |
| 04:56.31 | WinnySleeping | but |
| 04:56.45 | WinnySleeping | I didn't even get to say hi to molez |
| 04:56.47 | WinnySleeping | :p |
| 04:57.02 | Macrosoft | ~karma molez |
| 04:57.02 | ibot | molez has neutral karma |
| 04:57.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*BZJesus*@*] by brlcad |
| 04:57.23 | jude- | yay |
| 04:57.29 | Macrosoft | what? |
| 04:59.17 | brlcad | Macrosoft: calling out CHEATER or otherwise instigating a response doesn't really help, please don't do that |
| 04:59.41 | brlcad | they want attention, the best you can do is not give them your attention |
| 05:00.40 | jzaun | brlcad: heh... I used to help out more involved like a long time ago :-) I may get back into it. First step is feeling comfortable building a universal binary and packaging a dmg. and understanding was all the xcode stuff does :-) |
| 05:01.29 | jzaun | brlcad: to that end, I can now compile a working .app :-) Its a baby step but a step non the less :-D |
| 05:08.33 | brlcad | jzaun: well keep it up ;) |
| 05:09.17 | jzaun | I plan on it. if you have any docs on the process your using I'd love a copy :-D |
| 05:14.27 | brlcad | ah, you do have to re-call it, but it's done indirectly |
| 05:15.08 | brlcad | looks like it just needs a call to rt_clean_resource before the next rtip |
| 05:15.26 | brlcad | the best/easy way is to be sure to call rt_clean() .. that will clean the resource for you |
| 05:16.40 | jzaun | blast007: that or stats... the map thumbnails... |
| 05:16.50 | jzaun | blast007: my php code :-) that was fun to write |
| 05:17.09 | jzaun | that was back in the day though |
| 05:17.36 | brlcad | mm.. stats site |
| 05:17.44 | poolio | brlcad: wrong window :) |
| 05:17.48 | brlcad | there's something in need of an overhauling/enhancing |
| 05:18.00 | brlcad | poolio: ooops ;) |
| 05:18.05 | brlcad | true true |
| 05:18.44 | jzaun | brlcad: the current stats site is quite different that it used to be |
| 05:18.50 | brlcad | jzaun: the best reference are probably scripts in the brl-cad source tree that build a dmg automatically for you |
| 05:19.05 | brlcad | it'd need to be modified for bzflag's needs though |
| 05:19.30 | brlcad | since it assumes it's going to be copying in a .pkg file |
| 05:19.35 | jzaun | brlcad: back in the day stats.jzaun.com :-) not sure where all the old scripts for that went though. |
| 05:20.10 | jzaun | brl-cad? |
| 05:21.34 | brlcad | yes? |
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| 05:22.57 | jzaun | the brl-cad source tree... a branch in svn? a different project? |
| 05:23.14 | brlcad | different project, in the sh/ dir |
| 05:23.19 | brlcad | make_dmg.sh iirc |
| 05:24.08 | jzaun | I'll have a look |
| 05:24.55 | DTRemenak | heh. just read a post on bzbb, thought "gee, that was remarkably mature and helpful...wonder who wrote it." some guy named "learner" apparently :) |
| 05:25.26 | purple_cow | learner? mature? |
| 05:26.05 | DTRemenak | doesn't take much when you're being compared to the greater bzbb audience :P |
| 05:29.27 | poolio | learner = brlcad? |
| 05:30.36 | Constitution | poolio: yes |
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| 05:40.23 | brlcad | DTRemenak: heh |
| 05:43.26 | brlcad | learner != brlcad |
| 05:43.41 | brlcad | learner's generally more friendly and playful |
| 05:44.35 | Constitution | brlcad: he was using the assignment operator (not the comparison operator), so the statement should always evaluate to true, right? |
| 05:44.55 | Constitution | or maybe evaluate to the value of brlcad |
| 05:44.59 | Constitution | :-) |
| 05:45.10 | brlcad | which when applied to learner would probably segfault |
| 05:45.27 | DTRemenak | null assignment? :P |
| 05:46.31 | brlcad | nah, just not accessible |
| 05:47.09 | jzaun | protected memory? |
| 05:51.30 | brlcad | owned by another process |
| 05:51.56 | jzaun | ahh |
| 05:52.43 | jzaun | whats the process name? "The Wife"? :-P |
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| 06:10.21 | Constitution | hurray pythonian has bots again |
| 06:15.07 | Constitution | "Pythonian Commercial BZFlag Server"... lol |
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| 08:00.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14378 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (34 files in 13 dirs): |
| 08:00.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: The GUI is back online, and with a FLTK OpenGL window embedded in the main app window. There are incremental fixes to the BZWParser and Model |
| 08:00.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: classes to make them more robust. Also, the rudimentary parts of the data back-bone of BZWorkbench's 3D scene manager is in place. I have decided |
| 08:00.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: to incorporate my own scene manager rather than embed an existing 3D engine into the UI to give me ultimate flexibility in rendering the data, and |
| 08:00.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: because writing my own would take me just as long to learn how to (effectively) use an existing 3D engine in this project :P |
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| 08:17.34 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation || http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/nomination.php?group_id=3248&from=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fbzflag |
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| 08:17.40 | jude- | wb ibot |
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| 10:09.38 | Cobra_Fast | searching 1vs1 on HIX (plz query) |
| 10:11.06 | Constitution | Cobra_Fast: not sure what you mean |
| 10:11.32 | Cobra_Fast | someone who i can play with |
| 10:12.14 | Cobra_Fast | on a HIX 1vs1 map |
| 10:14.27 | Cobra_Fast | anyone? |
| 10:15.56 | Cobra_Fast | come on guys! |
| 10:16.44 | Cobra_Fast | i want to become a professional |
| 10:18.53 | Cobra_Fast | why not? |
| 10:25.25 | Cobra_Fast | well then not |
| 11:01.13 | brlcad | because patience you hath not achieved, young padawan Cobra_Fast |
| 11:03.12 | Chestal | flight delayed - great |
| 11:03.17 | Chestal | hi brlcad |
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| 11:30.44 | TASAIRES | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.15 | TASAIRES | Hello to alls ;) From Spain - Here are 13:33 Time |
| 11:34.10 | Constitution | hello |
| 11:34.26 | Constitution | it is 04:34 here :-) |
| 11:34.37 | TASAIRES | Constitution ;) |
| 11:35.51 | TASAIRES | ruskie, Manu, Hello :) |
| 11:36.24 | TASAIRES | Thumper_ Special XD Hello |
| 11:36.59 | Manu | hola TASAIRES |
| 11:38.02 | TASAIRES | Manu on English jajaja, please, ;) |
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| 11:39.45 | essy | brlcad ping |
| 11:39.54 | essy | DTRemenak: ping |
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| 11:40.40 | essy | TASAIRES: yes? |
| 11:41.02 | TASAIRES | only ping you |
| 11:41.11 | essy | yes, I know |
| 11:41.14 | TASAIRES | for more info |
| 11:41.46 | TASAIRES | Xchat and Windows, um, is the 30 day evaluation version? |
| 11:42.03 | essy | this is not my normal client |
| 11:42.05 | essy | I use irssi |
| 11:42.21 | TASAIRES | i use Xchat on linux, but on windows use that icechat |
| 11:42.31 | TASAIRES | essy ;) |
| 11:44.06 | TASAIRES | essy you play to BZflag?? on what system Linux or Windows |
| 11:44.17 | essy | I play bz sometimes |
| 11:44.22 | essy | nick is SportChick |
| 11:44.32 | essy | ~thwap brlcad |
| 11:44.33 | ibot | ACTION thwaps brlcad on the nose with a 2 by 4 |
| 11:44.44 | TASAIRES | am ok, thmine nick is that some -> TASAiRES |
| 11:45.47 | TASAIRES | essy but play best on Linux, now windows makelag or jitter |
| 11:46.01 | essy | grrrrrrr |
| 11:46.44 | TASAIRES | essy on Bz play, only |
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| 11:47.17 | TASAIRES | i going to eat, Bye bye |
| 11:47.22 | TASAIRES | Bye To Alls ;) |
| 12:06.53 | VanillaEarth | F |
| 12:12.34 | SportChick | err |
| 12:36.09 | Manu | SportChick: hehe :) |
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| 13:19.34 | Constitution | would a BZBB admin take care of this at his/her convenience please: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11023 |
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| 14:07.51 | DTRemenak | SportChick: pong |
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| 14:17.11 | FarkSimmons | does anyone know how to shorten a laser's ricochet or range without changing the range of a normal shot? |
| 14:20.14 | L4m3r | you have to change the velocity of the laser |
| 14:20.27 | DTRemenak | _laserAdVel iirc |
| 14:21.23 | FarkSimmons | ok |
| 14:21.28 | FarkSimmons | the default for that is 1000 |
| 14:21.38 | FarkSimmons | so maybe make it smaller to allow for shorter? |
| 14:21.43 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 14:21.46 | FarkSimmons | or is it opposite |
| 14:21.47 | FarkSimmons | ok |
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| 14:59.08 | brlcad | Epyon: http://tinyurl.com/2thgwa |
| 15:00.06 | brlcad | if you're interested, we could probably get something in there in time related to the gsoc work |
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| 17:57.32 | jftsang | the teleporters still dont work :( |
| 17:58.02 | a_temp_dist | which map? |
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| 18:07.28 | jftsang | the one im making |
| 18:07.32 | jftsang | shall i send it to you? |
| 18:07.57 | Constitution | pastebin the code |
| 18:08.09 | jftsang | where |
| 18:08.13 | jftsang | ~bzpastebin |
| 18:08.14 | ibot | bzpastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel, and it archives too. - try http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 18:08.18 | Winny | www.pastebin.ca |
| 18:08.21 | Winny | oh |
| 18:08.23 | Winny | beat me |
| 18:10.17 | jftsang | done, methinks |
| 18:10.26 | jftsang | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/581768 |
| 18:11.27 | jftsang | the teleporters start at line 539 |
| 18:17.33 | a_temp_dist | try naming them like "teleporter t0" instead of the "name 1" that ou have |
| 18:18.37 | a_temp_dist | then link, from t0:f, to t1:b, end |
| 18:19.36 | JeffM | or just use the numbers |
| 18:19.39 | JeffM | you don't have to name them |
| 18:19.48 | JeffM | from 1 to 3 |
| 18:19.51 | JeffM | from 3 to 1 |
| 18:19.52 | JeffM | etc.. |
| 18:21.31 | a_temp_dist | in the order they are in the file? |
| 18:22.21 | JeffM | sort of |
| 18:22.26 | JeffM | porter 1 side 1 is 1 |
| 18:22.31 | JeffM | porter 1 side 2 is 2 |
| 18:22.36 | JeffM | porter 2 side 1 is 3 |
| 18:22.42 | JeffM | porter 2 side 2 is 4 |
| 18:22.49 | Tedius | woah, I didn't realize that |
| 18:23.07 | JeffM | that's how it was done before we had names ;) |
| 18:23.24 | JeffM | that's how bzedit does it |
| 18:25.19 | a_temp_dist | side one is the north side? |
| 18:25.49 | JeffM | the X+ side |
| 18:25.55 | JeffM | before rotation |
| 18:26.11 | JeffM | north dosn't make sense since porters can rotate 360 |
| 18:27.06 | JeffM | at rot 0 IIRC poters have there yellow bits along Y |
| 18:28.49 | a_temp_dist | naming them seems more straight forward, now that we have the option |
| 18:29.05 | JeffM | if it works ;) |
| 18:29.22 | blast007 | can teleporters be inside a group, and if so, how do the names behave then? |
| 18:29.36 | Winny | only if thier randomly linked, IIRC |
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| 18:41.55 | jftsang | so what do you think? |
| 18:42.43 | jftsang | do you need to define another teleporter for the second side? |
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| 18:49.52 | a_temp_dist | jftsang, no teleporters are always two sided |
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| 19:04.46 | Legolas | Birdie are you there? |
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| 19:15.07 | Birdie | yes |
| 19:15.10 | Birdie | great to late |
| 19:15.14 | Winny | hehe |
| 19:17.32 | Winny | the group perm to hide the @ is HADMIN, right? |
| 19:17.41 | a_temp_dist | almost |
| 19:17.48 | Winny | HIDEADMIN? |
| 19:17.52 | a_temp_dist | HIDDEN |
| 19:17.57 | Winny | oh |
| 19:18.07 | Winny | merci |
| 19:18.18 | a_temp_dist | i saw going to let you keep guessing... |
| 19:18.22 | a_temp_dist | was* |
| 19:18.39 | Winny | :p |
| 19:21.22 | a_temp_dist | Winny, looks like I remembered wrong http://my.bzflag.org/w/Group_Permissions - it is HIDEADMIN |
| 19:51.34 | jftsang | a_temp_dist: so, i put :f nd :b on them - and they still dont work |
| 19:52.59 | jftsang | also, what happens is that teleporter number three (the lower blue) only teleports on one side, and to the WRONG SHIP |
| 19:55.02 | Constitution | you only have like four of them, right? maybe trial-and-error is the best option |
| 19:55.18 | a_temp_dist | jftsang, try this http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/581952 |
| 19:55.53 | jftsang | a_temp_dist, what's the change? |
| 19:56.16 | a_temp_dist | the syntax of the teleporters |
| 19:57.19 | jftsang | meaning? |
| 19:58.04 | a_temp_dist | look at the change to the teleporters |
| 19:58.33 | jftsang | what, put a t in front of their names? |
| 20:01.11 | a_temp_dist | that, and changed the way they are named - not using the "name" line |
| 20:01.15 | jftsang | it works! *thanks temp_dist* |
| 20:01.16 | jftsang | ah |
| 20:01.21 | a_temp_dist | you bet |
| 20:01.21 | jftsang | ok |
| 20:01.49 | jftsang | it was all enterprises idea so blame him if the map sucks |
| 20:04.06 | Constitution | U.S.S. Enterprise? |
| 20:04.31 | Constitution | haven't seen him for a long time |
| 20:04.31 | jftsang | no |
| 20:04.33 | jftsang | Enterprise |
| 20:04.35 | Constitution | oh |
| 20:04.38 | jftsang | my friend |
| 20:04.53 | jftsang | nd the one who invited me to see pirates of the caribbean and then drew me into doing this |
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| 20:20.59 | [darek] | hi tupone :) |
| 20:21.32 | tupone | hi [darek] |
| 20:21.52 | tupone | found some time to play ? |
| 20:22.42 | [darek] | sure |
| 20:25.29 | tupone | and to play with the source? |
| 20:26.12 | [darek] | yes, what exactly ? |
| 20:27.08 | tupone | well. a project called hmmm .. crystalspace bzflag client |
| 20:27.18 | [darek] | yeah ;) |
| 20:27.35 | [darek] | but any particular problems ? |
| 20:28.30 | [darek] | btw are you going to CS conference ? |
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| 20:28.42 | tupone | I've stopped it for a couple of reasons: I'm abroad, and I've not yet found a way to speed it up. Starting is terribly slow |
| 20:28.52 | tupone | nope, where? |
| 20:28.55 | jftsang_ | Tedius: can you put the test map up now? |
| 20:29.01 | [darek] | aachen/germany |
| 20:29.02 | jftsang_ | ive made a few improvements to it |
| 20:29.09 | tupone | aww, when? |
| 20:29.29 | tupone | maybe I will very near, in the next future |
| 20:29.37 | [darek] | 14-15 july |
| 20:29.45 | jftsang_ | cn some1 kick jftsang |
| 20:29.52 | [darek] | but tomorrow is the last day of registration |
| 20:29.52 | tupone | hmm, nope .. still in NL :/ |
| 20:29.53 | jftsang_ | so that i can log on using my normal name |
| 20:29.55 | jftsang_ | nd use PMs |
| 20:30.15 | TheRedBaron | jftsang_: use /msg nickserv ghost jftsang password |
| 20:30.29 | jftsang_ | thx |
| 20:30.30 | TheRedBaron | tada |
| 20:31.23 | [darek] | tupone: you want to speed up as in FPS ? |
| 20:36.15 | tupone | yeah |
| 20:36.28 | tupone | if FPS means frame per second |
| 20:36.39 | [darek] | yes |
| 20:36.41 | [darek] | hmm |
| 20:36.58 | [darek] | it's not possible atm, thats why I made 3 modes |
| 20:37.12 | [darek] | min/mid/max |
| 20:37.26 | tupone | using LOD? |
| 20:37.45 | [darek] | well yes.. |
| 20:37.51 | [darek] | depends on object |
| 20:37.58 | [darek] | hard to make LOD from pyramid |
| 20:38.14 | tupone | yeah :) |
| 20:38.48 | tupone | why octree has been removed? |
| 20:39.55 | tupone | frustrum is very slow for bzflag |
| 20:40.12 | [darek] | culler is a plugins |
| 20:40.15 | [darek] | plugin |
| 20:40.47 | tupone | I know, mostly everything is |
| 20:40.50 | [darek] | there is other one, but I don't think it will speed up it |
| 20:41.02 | [darek] | 3rd is in progress |
| 20:41.06 | tupone | yeah, It does not |
| 20:41.08 | [darek] | but well |
| 20:41.32 | [darek] | as usually in open source - it will be done when it will be done |
| 20:41.41 | [darek] | ;) |
| 20:41.55 | tupone | maybe the only answer is LOD,but only for the tanks I guess |
| 20:42.12 | [darek] | yes for tanks it will be good |
| 20:43.03 | tupone | I still need to make the shot and the radar, too |
| 20:43.51 | [darek] | imposters are almost finished |
| 20:43.57 | [darek] | but it;s for very far objects |
| 20:44.15 | [darek] | I don't think that will fit for BZ maps |
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| 20:56.44 | jftsang | any1 up for a game of quidditch |
| 20:57.11 | jftsang | userbin.net:5155 |
| 20:57.16 | Winny | sorry, I live in real life |
| 20:57.17 | Winny | ;) |
| 20:57.27 | [darek] | tupone: btw do you use staticpos/staticshape flags for environment objects ? |
| 20:57.46 | tupone | I didn't, IIRC |
| 20:57.56 | [darek] | it can help a little bit |
| 20:58.01 | [darek] | also staticshape for thanks |
| 20:58.17 | jftsang | ;) |
| 20:58.27 | tupone | youre welcome |
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| 21:13.02 | [darek] | for tanks ;) |
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| 21:14.59 | tupone | :) |
| 21:15.01 | [darek] | also can be good idea make all static geometry as one object |
| 21:15.39 | tupone | but then it cannot never be removed by the culler |
| 21:15.46 | [darek] | 1000 obejct with 10 polygons earch works much slower then 10 objects with 1000 each |
| 21:15.57 | [darek] | this is better than culler |
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| 22:00.44 | Macrosoft | hey, you should try playing bz with the subwoofer turned up |
| 22:04.50 | Macrosoft | hey, is uber_tank a cheater? |
| 22:05.26 | blast007 | are they currently on a server, exibiting some strange behavior? |
| 22:05.34 | Macrosoft | he left |
| 22:05.43 | Macrosoft | but he wouldnt die |
| 22:05.53 | Macrosoft | hes back |
| 22:05.53 | blast007 | it's possible |
| 22:05.59 | blast007 | where at? |
| 22:06.05 | Macrosoft | come observe him |
| 22:06.16 | Macrosoft | 75.65.81.245:5156 |
| 22:07.31 | Macrosoft | hes definitely cheating, he can fly without wings |
| 22:07.43 | JeffM | so ban him |
| 22:08.08 | Macrosoft | and wingsJumpCount is set to 2, but he can jump as many times as he wants |
| 22:08.19 | CBG | Good for him. |
| 22:08.20 | blast007 | get rid of him then |
| 22:08.33 | Macrosoft | he keeps asking if he looks obese |
| 22:08.42 | blast007 | that's nice |
| 22:08.44 | CBG | Why do we care? |
| 22:08.50 | blast007 | he's cheating |
| 22:08.52 | JeffM | if your admin, take care of it |
| 22:09.03 | JeffM | if your not, tell an admin there and let them deal with it |
| 22:09.04 | CBG | if not, report it to an admin. |
| 22:09.08 | JeffM | if it's against there rules. |
| 22:09.09 | CBG | right. |
| 22:09.20 | Macrosoft | well... sorry for trying to warn everyone about a cheater |
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| 22:09.31 | CBG | If it's not against their rules, the server probably shouldn't be allowed on the list, right? |
| 22:09.55 | JeffM | we don't verify rules, just don't aproove of advertising that it's a cheat server |
| 22:10.04 | JeffM | it's a fine line |
| 22:10.08 | CBG | Yeah, I see. |
| 22:10.32 | JeffM | a server that allows cheating, and a server that just isn't admined right now.. have the same efffect |
| 22:10.41 | JeffM | but one would be disallowed and one would not |
| 22:10.57 | JeffM | so it's simpler to just not allow the advertising then to go and ask for everyone's rules |
| 22:11.45 | JeffM | yeah would be, if there was a clean system to file them |
| 22:11.57 | Erroneous | and an owner email address/bzid |
| 22:11.59 | JeffM | coudl work well with the prefered system that I proposed :) |
| 22:12.14 | Erroneous | could work with an org system too |
| 22:12.31 | JeffM | indeed |
| 22:12.35 | JeffM | as also proposed :) |
| 22:12.38 | Erroneous | just another entity type |
| 22:12.40 | Erroneous | yup |
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| 22:18.14 | wanda | ~seen jude |
| 22:18.15 | ibot | jude <n=jude@c-68-84-206-92.hsd1.az.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 88d 17h 25m 52s ago, saying: 'kk'. |
| 22:18.58 | Winny | ~seen jude- |
| 22:18.59 | ibot | jude- <n=jude@c-68-84-206-92.hsd1.az.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 14h 1m 19s ago, saying: 'wb ibot'. |
| 22:19.48 | wanda | looks better .. ty Winny |
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| 22:48.13 | Constitution | hi lodxcol |
| 22:49.21 | lodxcol | hi Constitution |
| 22:49.27 | lodxcol | how are things? |
| 22:49.56 | Constitution | pretty good |
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| 23:00.37 | tannerld | ooo |
| 23:00.40 | tannerld | bzwb has a window O.o |
| 23:02.10 | Winny | I havent gotten to ~heyjude all day :( |
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