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| 00:09.54 | davemicc | does the 2.0 branch in svn require a newer version of libcurl than 2.0.8? |
| 00:10.31 | JeffM2501 | require, probalby not, but it's best to have the latest one |
| 00:10.35 | JeffM2501 | older ones had some bugs |
| 00:12.03 | davemicc | ok...I'm getting messages like "Error while doing multi_fdset from libcurl 1 :" with debugging enabled and the server shows up with a private IP and no description on the list |
| 00:12.22 | a_meteorite | same here, but in 2.1 |
| 00:12.30 | a_meteorite | and then when I ctrl-c, it segfaults on the server |
| 00:13.38 | davemicc | I don't have the segfault :-) |
| 00:13.44 | a_meteorite | :P |
| 00:13.54 | JeffM2501 | sounds like the memory leak cleanup DTRemenak did wasn't all that good |
| 00:14.37 | a_meteorite | did he do this more than 3 days ago? |
| 00:14.46 | davemicc | yeah...I checked out right after that was committed... |
| 00:14.47 | a_meteorite | *2 |
| 00:14.57 | a_meteorite | I could probably revert back :) |
| 00:15.56 | Erroneous | I just obeyed the curl docs :) |
| 00:16.06 | a_meteorite | they lied to you? ;) |
| 00:16.16 | Erroneous | or they are newer than your copy of curl |
| 00:16.32 | a_meteorite | curl 7.15.5 |
| 00:16.43 | davemicc | same |
| 00:16.59 | a_meteorite | curl 7.15.5 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.15.5 OpenSSL/0.9.8c zlib/1.2.3 libidn/0.6.5 to be exact |
| 00:17.06 | Erroneous | docs were from 7.16.1 |
| 00:17.12 | a_meteorite | eek |
| 00:17.13 | Erroneous | which is not that much newer |
| 00:17.23 | a_meteorite | well, I just got the latest from debian |
| 00:17.31 | a_meteorite | looks like I'll have to source compile? |
| 00:17.44 | a_meteorite | (I don't mind, but it might not solve the problem :) ) |
| 00:17.46 | Erroneous | naw, we don't know that that's the problem yet |
| 00:18.23 | davemicc | cURL changelog (7.16.0): multi handles now have a shared connection cache (related)? |
| 00:18.33 | Erroneous | could be |
| 00:20.58 | Erroneous | docs from curl 7.15.5 say the same thing |
| 00:21.10 | Erroneous | man page is marked 7.10.1 |
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| 00:23.36 | a_meteorite | hmmm |
| 00:23.50 | a_meteorite | over-zealous memory leak protection? |
| 00:25.51 | Erroneous | reverse r14206 and see if it works |
| 00:27.23 | a_meteorite | k |
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| 00:28.42 | a_meteorite | hmmm, only a few files changed... |
| 00:28.49 | Erroneous | should have only been one |
| 00:29.00 | a_meteorite | meteorite@bzfxserver:~/bzfs-source/bzflag-2.1$ svn update -r 14206 |
| 00:29.00 | a_meteorite | U src/common/TimeKeeper.cxx |
| 00:29.00 | a_meteorite | U src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx |
| 00:29.00 | a_meteorite | U NEWS |
| 00:29.00 | a_meteorite | U plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp |
| 00:29.18 | Erroneous | you set your revision to 14206 |
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| 00:29.31 | a_meteorite | 14205? |
| 00:29.33 | Erroneous | I was saying, leave it as it is, but reverse the changes IN 14206 |
| 00:29.44 | a_meteorite | oh. |
| 00:30.09 | a_meteorite | ahem. |
| 00:30.17 | Erroneous | i.e. "patch -p0 -R < http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx?r1=14206&r2=14205&view=patch&pathrev=14206" |
| 00:30.37 | a_meteorite | k |
| 00:31.38 | Erroneous | or I suppose as one command "patch -p0 -R < `curl http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx?r1=14206&r2=14205&view=patch&pathrev=14206`" |
| 00:32.48 | eTangenT | yo guys |
| 00:32.55 | davemicc | hey |
| 00:34.01 | Erroneous | and if you're running from the bzflag directory, -p2, not -p0 |
| 00:35.04 | a_meteorite | patch just sits there and does nothing :| |
| 00:36.18 | a_meteorite | two line edit :) |
| 00:39.49 | Thumper_ | Erroneous: because of the & in the URL you need to quote the arg to curl: `curl 'http://...'` or curl `http://...' | patch -R -p0 |
| 00:40.16 | Erroneous | yup |
| 00:40.19 | a_meteorite | I didn't use his line, I downloaded it myself with patch then used that argument |
| 00:40.33 | a_meteorite | er, I messed that sentence up but you get the idea |
| 00:42.32 | a_meteorite | Erroneous: I took out those two lines, no more warnings or segfault |
| 00:42.36 | a_meteorite | I'm going to double check |
| 00:42.59 | Erroneous | well those lines are what the curl manual says to do :) |
| 00:44.29 | a_meteorite | Erroneous: yup, those two lines cause this havoc.. removing them makes it work |
| 00:44.56 | a_meteorite | though it's not segfaulting anymore, but still warnings galore :\ |
| 00:44.59 | a_meteorite | *errors |
| 00:45.09 | Erroneous | what sort of errors? |
| 00:45.18 | a_meteorite | pastebin'ing |
| 00:45.46 | a_meteorite | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/490447 |
| 00:46.07 | a_meteorite | that's with -dddd, I could paste the whole server output if you'd like |
| 00:46.20 | a_meteorite | that's just the point that it starts erroring |
| 00:48.01 | Erroneous | your curl seems to be built to decline error strings (CURL_ERROR_SIZE=1), so that's not exactly useful information |
| 00:48.24 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 00:48.32 | Erroneous | the :'s should be followed by something like "error resolving host" or "file not found" or "dead socket" or something |
| 00:48.54 | a_meteorite | well, whatever those errors may be, they stop when I remove those two lines :) |
| 00:49.15 | a_meteorite | so is CURL_ERROR_SIZE something I can only set by rebuilding curl? |
| 00:49.15 | Erroneous | I thought you said they were still there? |
| 00:49.59 | Erroneous | I don't know, all I know is that that's what determines the string size. if that's not the problem, then it's just giving us null strings as a matter of course (also possible) |
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| 00:50.26 | a_meteorite | when I remove those two lines I don't get those errors |
| 00:50.51 | tannerld | anyone know hte location of the bzflag icon on linux? |
| 00:51.01 | a_meteorite | when I remove these two lines.. |
| 00:51.02 | a_meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.02 | a_meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.05 | Erroneous | ok |
| 00:51.08 | Erroneous | that's fine then |
| 00:51.21 | a_meteorite | so the errors are nothing? |
| 00:51.36 | Erroneous | no, but you know how to avoid them |
| 00:51.55 | Erroneous | basically when we clean up (as curl asks us to) curl does something that later kills itself |
| 00:52.10 | Erroneous | so don't do that :) |
| 00:52.10 | a_meteorite | heh.. |
| 00:53.15 | daniel_jackson | harihary? |
| 00:53.36 | Erroneous | likely it's using some sort of global management for multi |
| 00:53.41 | Erroneous | and destroying it when we clean up |
| 00:53.46 | Erroneous | even if we set it up more than once |
| 00:53.51 | Erroneous | it needs refcounts |
| 00:59.05 | Erroneous | yup, almost certainly a curl bug, we're doing exactly what we're supposed to |
| 01:10.13 | AAA_awright | Can someone save me the trouble I have been going through and show me a regular build of the bzflag trunk? |
| 01:10.26 | AAA_awright | (please, please have a nightly build) |
| 01:10.28 | JeffM2501 | for what platform? |
| 01:10.33 | AAA_awright | Oh, windows. |
| 01:10.41 | AAA_awright | I can do it for linux no problem |
| 01:10.42 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't change often enough for a nightly |
| 01:11.07 | JeffM2501 | and you plan on playing with 2.1? |
| 01:11.09 | JeffM2501 | with who? |
| 01:11.10 | AAA_awright | That is why I said regular... weekly? Yes |
| 01:11.20 | AAA_awright | With... someone.... um. |
| 01:11.32 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't change enouhg for weekly |
| 01:11.36 | JeffM2501 | it's not even stable |
| 01:11.50 | JeffM2501 | but I'll make you one |
| 01:11.58 | JeffM2501 | there isn't a simple way to automate them with VC |
| 01:12.18 | JeffM2501 | it won't build with VC8 ee for you? |
| 01:12.27 | AAA_awright | No VC here |
| 01:12.37 | AAA_awright | MinGW is setup for most of the stuff I do |
| 01:12.44 | AAA_awright | (on windows) |
| 01:12.50 | JeffM2501 | why not install VCEE? |
| 01:12.58 | JeffM2501 | also the mingw build should work |
| 01:13.03 | AAA_awright | ...Ignorance? |
| 01:13.04 | JeffM2501 | it'll be SDL, but that should work |
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| 01:14.09 | AAA_awright | autogen.sh was reporting autoconf wasn't installed right, or somthing |
| 01:14.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14217 10/trunk/bzflag/README.WINDOWS: remove references to devC++ |
| 01:15.21 | JeffM2501 | was it? |
| 01:17.33 | JeffM2501 | you know it's incompatable with 2.0.x right? |
| 01:19.48 | AAA_awright | what? mingw? |
| 01:20.02 | AAA_awright | And I am building 2.1 |
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| 01:21.15 | JeffM2501 | no 2.1 is incompatable with 2.0.x |
| 01:21.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14218 10/trunk/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: bump installer to .13 |
| 01:22.02 | AAA_awright | Yah, I knew that. |
| 01:22.24 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 01:22.30 | JeffM2501 | some don't realise it |
| 01:22.38 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14219 10/trunk/bzflag/ (README include/common.h src/bzadmin/CursesMenu.cxx): more Dev-C++ references n' hacks |
| 01:25.02 | JeffM2501 | it's done |
| 01:25.17 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.1.x/ |
| 01:30.45 | eTangenT | ~bz21svn |
| 01:31.01 | eTangenT | ~bz21cvs |
| 01:31.20 | eTangenT | ~cvs |
| 01:31.22 | ibot | cvs is probably concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/. |
| 01:31.23 | JeffM2501 | it's on the wiki |
| 01:31.27 | eTangenT | thanks |
| 01:31.32 | JeffM2501 | BZFlag_SVN |
| 01:31.41 | JeffM2501 | has the URLs for both branch and trunl |
| 01:31.43 | JeffM2501 | trunk |
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| 01:55.01 | JeffM2501 | AAA_awright, did you get the message that a build was uploaded for you? |
| 01:55.27 | AAA_awright | No, Where? |
| 01:55.55 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.1.x/ |
| 01:56.03 | AAA_awright | Thank you very much |
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| 02:38.52 | blast007 | DTRemenak: hrm, guess that one doesn't work |
| 02:38.58 | blast007 | the cURL fix |
| 02:39.18 | blast007 | even with the latest curl... apparently valgrind wasn't showing all the debug/error output |
| 02:39.45 | blast007 | either that, or it didn't trigger with the limited configuration I had |
| 02:41.11 | SportChick | n 18 |
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| 03:37.24 | eTangenT | yo |
| 03:37.36 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 03:38.27 | daniel_jackson | I'm trying to update/optimize lodxcol's swearword list for missilewar |
| 03:39.04 | daniel_jackson | he had the word "cat" in the swearlist! lol |
| 03:39.56 | daniel_jackson | well I got to go, I have recreate the file |
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| 03:42.16 | eTangenT | alrighty, I can't seem to find the 2.1 branch in CVS |
| 03:42.27 | eTangenT | er |
| 03:42.29 | eTangenT | SVN, that is |
| 03:42.49 | Thumper_ | that's not a branch it's HEAD |
| 03:43.01 | PrezKennedy | the outlook doesnt look good does it? :-) |
| 03:43.18 | eTangenT | hm |
| 03:43.26 | eTangenT | well, consider me stupid then. |
| 03:43.45 | Thumper_ | er trunk |
| 03:43.45 | PrezKennedy | pff youre nothing until your both! |
| 03:43.50 | PrezKennedy | like me |
| 03:43.51 | PrezKennedy | :-) |
| 03:44.01 | eTangenT | a blind person on IRC!? |
| 03:44.04 | eTangenT | :o |
| 03:44.08 | eTangenT | can I have your autograph? |
| 03:44.15 | eTangenT | anyways, Thumper, is that trunk? |
| 03:44.18 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 03:44.55 | eTangenT | alright |
| 03:45.26 | eTangenT | ah |
| 03:45.28 | eTangenT | that looks right then |
| 03:50.12 | eTangenT | wait... libtoolize is not available. |
| 03:50.22 | eTangenT | apt-cache search libtoolize finds nothing! |
| 03:50.26 | eTangenT | >:( |
| 03:50.46 | Thumper_ | libtool ? |
| 03:51.05 | eTangenT | error message said libtoolize |
| 03:51.06 | eTangenT | but yeah |
| 03:51.10 | eTangenT | I was thinking libtool |
| 03:51.37 | Thumper_ | check for the libtool pkg |
| 03:51.42 | brlcad | blast007: do you have valgrind output? |
| 03:52.07 | brlcad | libtoolize is the front-end processor to libtool |
| 03:52.22 | brlcad | generates the libtool script that is used during compilation |
| 03:53.20 | brlcad | installed, the command is usually either libtoolize or glibtoolize (the latter being prevalent on mac os x) |
| 03:53.48 | eTangenT | hm |
| 03:53.50 | eTangenT | got it now |
| 03:53.50 | Thumper_ | /usr/bin/libtoolize is in the debian package libtool |
| 03:54.04 | eTangenT | it wasn't libtool's package where I got it |
| 03:54.06 | Thumper_ | (if that's useful) |
| 03:54.09 | eTangenT | it was autotools-dev, I think |
| 03:54.34 | eTangenT | ah well |
| 03:54.37 | eTangenT | either way, it works now |
| 03:55.29 | Thumper_ | almost midnight...time to turn into a pumpkin |
| 03:55.46 | brlcad | Thumper_: crazy talk |
| 03:56.07 | Thumper_ | night! |
| 03:56.14 | brlcad | crazy! |
| 03:56.19 | brlcad | :) night |
| 04:00.11 | eTangenT | WHAT! |
| 04:00.22 | eTangenT | I have mesa devel installed |
| 04:00.25 | eTangenT | why can't I build the client |
| 04:04.05 | eTangenT | This is something that always bothered me with Ubuntu |
| 04:04.07 | eTangenT | \couldn't compile bz |
| 04:04.20 | eTangenT | worked with Gentoo, worked with SuSE, but NEVER with ubuntu |
| 04:06.38 | eTangenT | blah! I have no idea what packages I need. |
| 04:07.45 | brlcad | look at the bzflag configure tests |
| 04:07.51 | brlcad | see why it failed to enable it |
| 04:08.03 | brlcad | probably during the gl.h tests |
| 04:08.07 | eTangenT | brlcad, it's missing opengl |
| 04:08.13 | eTangenT | apparently |
| 04:08.17 | brlcad | i know that, but why specifically |
| 04:08.43 | brlcad | that will help point out what package you need |
| 04:10.17 | eTangenT | one sec |
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| 04:11.58 | eTangenT | hm, I apparently don't have SDL to use |
| 04:12.16 | eTangenT | but it CAN find gl.h and use it |
| 04:22.49 | eTangenT | alright, brlcad, I'm stumped. |
| 04:22.54 | eTangenT | I says I have glx headers |
| 04:22.58 | eTangenT | it says I have sdl |
| 04:23.00 | JeffM2501 | did you install g+? |
| 04:23.04 | JeffM2501 | g++? |
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| 04:23.10 | eTangenT | I do believe so |
| 04:23.23 | eTangenT | bah |
| 04:23.24 | JeffM2501 | on ubuntu it's not part of the gcc package |
| 04:23.24 | eTangenT | no I didn't |
| 04:23.32 | eTangenT | thought I had |
| 04:23.35 | eTangenT | lemme try that |
| 04:23.58 | eTangenT | gonna take a sec to download |
| 04:25.04 | eTangenT | k, running ./configure again |
| 04:25.13 | eTangenT | Jeff, is bzrobots working in 2.1? |
| 04:25.27 | eTangenT | cuz I enabled it out of curiosity |
| 04:25.37 | eTangenT | oh my god, it was g++ |
| 04:25.43 | eTangenT | Jeff, you are a genius. |
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| 04:28.00 | eTangenT | uh oh |
| 04:28.03 | eTangenT | now curl is broken? |
| 04:28.05 | eTangenT | :( |
| 04:28.52 | blast007 | yup |
| 04:29.08 | eTangenT | Well, I think I can figure that one out. *phew* |
| 04:29.12 | blast007 | does it do all the errors? |
| 04:29.18 | eTangenT | yeah |
| 04:29.21 | eTangenT | a long list of them |
| 04:29.22 | blast007 | yup.. |
| 04:29.37 | eTangenT | in cURLmanager.cxx |
| 04:29.43 | PrezKennedy | JeffM2501, need some tronya to go along with your corbomite manuveur? |
| 04:31.25 | brlcad | hrm |
| 04:31.30 | brlcad | blast007: got a build log? |
| 04:31.49 | brlcad | and/or eTangenT |
| 04:32.04 | brlcad | probably a matter of where to search for headers |
| 04:32.05 | blast007 | errors were when running bzfs with the latest cURL changes |
| 04:32.35 | brlcad | ah, run-time errors then |
| 04:32.38 | blast007 | Error while doing multi_fdset from libcurl 1 : |
| 04:32.38 | blast007 | Error while doing multi_perform from libcurl 1 : |
| 04:32.39 | eTangenT | brlcad, I got it now |
| 04:32.42 | blast007 | over and over |
| 04:32.53 | eTangenT | for some reason libcurl3-dev wasn't isntalled |
| 04:32.57 | eTangenT | dunno how that got by configure |
| 04:33.06 | blast007 | eTangenT: ah, thought you had it built |
| 04:33.21 | eTangenT | nah mang |
| 04:33.34 | eTangenT | but it soon will be :) |
| 04:33.43 | brlcad | eTangenT: ah, we just rely on tests curl provides .. they might only check for curl-config or something |
| 04:34.10 | eTangenT | brlcad: Makes sense. |
| 04:34.16 | eTangenT | We better go lart them. |
| 04:34.23 | brlcad | if that becomes a common failure, we should add better functionality tests that checks for the libs/headers directly |
| 04:34.28 | eTangenT | ~lart eTangenT |
| 04:34.28 | ibot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses eTangenT's head to break the homerun record |
| 04:35.05 | eTangenT | ~lart curl_devs for not providing us with proper testing scripts |
| 04:35.06 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on curl_devs's head for not providing us with proper testing scripts |
| 04:35.48 | eTangenT | Oh, while we're talking about broken things |
| 04:36.03 | eTangenT | doese anyone know where I might be able to buy a replacement keyboard for my Inspiron 600m? |
| 04:36.12 | eTangenT | My apostrophy key fell off... :-\ |
| 04:36.44 | PrezKennedy | not as bad as the guy who spilled coffee on his machine at least... |
| 04:36.53 | PrezKennedy | we had to put a whole new membrane in the thing |
| 04:36.56 | eTangenT | I didn't break it. |
| 04:37.06 | SportChick | brlcad: I got it sorted, btw |
| 04:37.06 | blast007 | eTangenT: try the interweb |
| 04:37.12 | eTangenT | It was my friend smacking the keyboard around. |
| 04:37.16 | blast007 | go on ebay |
| 04:37.19 | eTangenT | blast007: I'm browsing Dell's site right now |
| 04:37.22 | eTangenT | thought they would have one |
| 04:37.34 | blast007 | they'll just say "hey look, buy a new laptop" |
| 04:37.43 | PrezKennedy | if you call you MAY be able to get a replacement part |
| 04:37.44 | blast007 | is there a part number on the keyboard? |
| 04:37.58 | eTangenT | blast007: Dunno. Haven't looked yet. |
| 04:38.07 | eTangenT | Remember, Iw as going to buy a lenovo soon. |
| 04:39.11 | blast007 | if you do, get one that doesn't have a sucky Intel graphics chipset |
| 04:39.23 | eTangenT | blast007: Of course. |
| 04:40.07 | eTangenT | BAH |
| 04:40.12 | eTangenT | Now make install doesn't work |
| 04:40.21 | blast007 | did you sudo/su ? |
| 04:40.37 | eTangenT | yes. |
| 04:40.44 | blast007 | what fails? |
| 04:40.45 | eTangenT | I got "nothing to be done for [blah]" |
| 04:40.47 | eTangenT | a lot |
| 04:40.52 | eTangenT | and then a test couldn't find what it needed |
| 04:41.21 | blast007 | where does it stop? |
| 04:41.51 | eTangenT | data and l18n |
| 04:42.08 | eTangenT | might it have had anything to do with my --program-suffix=_21 |
| 04:42.11 | eTangenT | in ./configure? |
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| 04:59.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14220 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldInfo.cxx: avoid leaking if there was a previous database zipped up, hopefully addressing some valgrindage issues |
| 05:00.37 | brlcad | hm, the WorldEventManager leak is skery |
| 05:01.25 | eTangenT | bah |
| 05:01.31 | eTangenT | still didn't work |
| 05:02.02 | eTangenT | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/jcox/bzflag/include' |
| 05:02.04 | eTangenT | make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. |
| 05:02.30 | eTangenT | and more like that, until it runs a test on the l10n dir, and I get an error 127 |
| 05:03.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14221 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx: avoid leaking on the curl multi handler since setup() is called repeatedly as connections are made |
| 05:04.33 | brlcad | there is nothing to be done in those dirs |
| 05:04.46 | brlcad | eTangenT: curious.. why are you on svn head? |
| 05:06.05 | brlcad | you do realize it's (expectedly) unstable .. there's a level of expected development capacity to work out of svn instead of off the published source tarballs (no offense implied, just the nature of the beast so development can proceed efficiently) |
| 05:07.39 | eTangenT | brlcad, wanted to build 2.1 and see how it looked so far |
| 05:07.42 | brlcad | i mean, i know everyone wants a peek at the latest and greatest .. |
| 05:08.12 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:08.26 | brlcad | but then at that comes the burden on your hands to dig deep, solve the hard problems yourself and learn the tools to help you get through these issues ;) |
| 05:09.39 | eTangenT | brlcad, is it just that there has been more added to the install that hasn't been finished yet? |
| 05:10.19 | brlcad | you tell me |
| 05:10.34 | brlcad | again, it could be lots of things, a mix of things |
| 05:10.38 | eTangenT | that's what it would seem like. |
| 05:10.44 | eTangenT | at any rate, I'll check it again later. |
| 05:10.54 | eTangenT | in the meantime, I'll just build from svn for 2.0 |
| 05:11.10 | brlcad | you could figure it out, instead of guessing or asking too ;) |
| 05:12.20 | brlcad | in this case, it's just a side effect of active development -- that's why we test the tarballs and not head constantly .. development would be way too hindered with overburden |
| 05:12.58 | brlcad | so far everything has been something on your part setup-wise aside from the bzfs libcurl issue |
| 05:15.04 | eTangenT | so the nothing to be done for is something I can fix on my end? |
| 05:15.31 | brlcad | that's not a problem |
| 05:15.53 | brlcad | there's nothing to be installed in that dir |
| 05:15.57 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:16.06 | eTangenT | alright. |
| 05:16.14 | PrezKennedy | gnight folks |
| 05:16.15 | eTangenT | night, Prez |
| 05:16.28 | eTangenT | brlcad, I'll tinker around with stuff tomorrow more |
| 05:16.58 | brlcad | ai'ight, g'luck |
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| 05:17.45 | jude- | hello all |
| 05:17.47 | brlcad | ciao |
| 05:18.28 | eTangenT | hey brlcad, what might be a more stable revision? |
| 05:20.37 | brlcad | that last posted tarball |
| 05:21.06 | brlcad | you're not even being stumped with stability |
| 05:21.55 | brlcad | you're running into (basic) build issues .. which tells me you should be reading up more on the build tools and searching for what you're seeing on google to become more familiar with what to expect and what everything means .. it'll help |
| 05:24.05 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:24.19 | eTangenT | I found someone with a similar type of problem, a solution offered is running make clean; make |
| 05:24.43 | brlcad | sounds reasonable |
| 05:24.53 | eTangenT | oh wow, I got that same problem with the 2.0 source |
| 05:24.55 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:25.50 | eTangenT | trying the make clean; make |
| 05:25.53 | eTangenT | for 2.1 first |
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| 05:30.22 | brlcad | blast007: were those all on the trunk? |
| 05:30.39 | brlcad | i'm not matching line numbers on some of them, with a massive offset |
| 05:33.48 | eTangenT | any of you guys read xkcd? |
| 05:34.35 | brlcad | ometimes |
| 05:38.42 | eTangenT | heh |
| 05:38.49 | eTangenT | brlcad, I just found this: http://purl.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20050111.html.gz |
| 05:39.01 | eTangenT | that looks at lest semi-relevant to my issue |
| 05:44.44 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:45.08 | eTangenT | you know, it's only make processed with the -am suffix that are failing... I think this might have SOMETHING to do with automake, correct? |
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| 05:49.21 | brlcad | dammit.. irssi just killed my irssi uptime |
| 05:50.37 | eTangenT | bummer |
| 05:50.37 | eTangenT | hey brlcad, do you think my issue has anything to do with automake? |
| 05:50.47 | eTangenT | ouch |
| 05:54.46 | eTangenT | hm |
| 05:54.52 | eTangenT | still getting nowhere with this |
| 05:55.01 | eTangenT | must be searching wrong in google, cuz I still haven't found anything to fix it |
| 05:57.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14222 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx: might need to call removeHandle() still if added, add comment |
| 06:02.10 | eTangenT | I don't think the makefiles are being made right. |
| 06:02.40 | eTangenT | ah well |
| 06:02.42 | eTangenT | it's sleeping time |
| 06:02.43 | eTangenT | good night |
| 06:06.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14223 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: wimpy attempt at taking care of a leaky jobs vector, where presumably the handler's are getting lost after a clear() since each job is just added with a push_back() and no regard to that pointer. |
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| 06:21.46 | DTRemenak | brlcad: deleting a handler could be bad...in many plugins they're static, allocated when the plugin is loaded |
| 06:24.38 | DTRemenak | I also don't think that calling removeJob for each job is necessary, since all removeJob does is erase the job from the vector (which clear will do) and remove the handle if it's active (which removeHandle will do) |
| 06:25.38 | DTRemenak | AND that loop is really nasty because it erases item i (removeJob) and after that, tries to free item i's handler |
| 06:26.35 | DTRemenak | so you end up leaking the first job's handler, and referencing an out-of-bounds element at the end |
| 06:28.07 | brlcad | hm |
| 06:28.15 | brlcad | well, it was a wimpy attempt |
| 06:28.24 | DTRemenak | not to mention being O(n^2) because removeJob has to iterate the whole thing anyway ;) |
| 06:28.27 | brlcad | for a very nasty call to start with |
| 06:28.41 | brlcad | oh, yeah .. i knew that much, just didn't care if it did the trick ;) |
| 06:28.42 | DTRemenak | yeah, it's a mess to begin with |
| 06:29.12 | brlcad | coulda been O(n^4) and I'd still done it *ahem* |
| 06:29.22 | DTRemenak | for being a mangager, it doesn't manage terribly well :) |
| 06:30.29 | DTRemenak | and I really don't like the whole "n jobs but only 1 active" thing |
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| 06:30.50 | DTRemenak | because curl multi is supposed to thread them and do them simultaneously |
| 06:31.06 | DTRemenak | so we lose one of the main capabilities by doing it the way we do |
| 06:33.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14224 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: okay, so perhaps it was too wimpy. revert. still a leak in there for sure. |
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| 06:39.09 | DTRemenak | brlcad: I'm also a bit curious if you tested the changes to cURLManager::setup... they look right to me, but some people were reporting that even the multi cleanup I added at destruction was killing curl's ability to connect after the first time (see e.g. a_meteorite's comments ~5:40PST) |
| 06:39.57 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:39.59 | DTRemenak | I was considering backing my changes out and just letting it leak until we could look into it more |
| 06:40.07 | DTRemenak | but if it works for you, it's cool for me |
| 06:40.19 | brlcad | take a guess at how much testing I did |
| 06:40.32 | DTRemenak | uh...based on the vector overrun, I'm gonna guess none :) |
| 06:41.10 | DTRemenak | which is exactly how much I did too, oddly enough |
| 06:41.34 | brlcad | hehe |
| 06:42.35 | brlcad | there, just tested |
| 06:42.41 | brlcad | seems to work for me |
| 06:43.21 | DTRemenak | server? |
| 06:44.10 | DTRemenak | specifically public server, I suppose |
| 06:44.29 | brlcad | tried a bunch of the kahless ones |
| 06:44.39 | DTRemenak | no, I mean, did you test the server :) |
| 06:45.11 | brlcad | ah, well that has a different curl problem still last I heard? |
| 06:45.17 | DTRemenak | does it? |
| 06:45.29 | brlcad | i didn't test before the mods |
| 06:46.14 | brlcad | crashed |
| 06:46.21 | DTRemenak | nice |
| 06:46.51 | DTRemenak | mine is still configuring...apparently someone(tm) has been playing with autogen again :) |
| 06:47.03 | brlcad | http://pastebin.ca/490750 |
| 06:47.24 | DTRemenak | ooh, that doesn't look good |
| 06:47.37 | DTRemenak | that all the deeper the stack goes? |
| 06:47.50 | brlcad | yup |
| 06:47.58 | brlcad | so it's hosered elsewhere |
| 06:48.07 | DTRemenak | indeed |
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| 06:48.34 | brlcad | do get a nice: bzfs(2120) malloc: *** error for object 0x1c2fcb0: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed, break at szone_error to debug |
| 06:48.48 | trepan | hosered? been drinkin' canadian beer? |
| 06:49.02 | DTRemenak | heh, modify after free |
| 06:49.04 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 06:49.21 | DTRemenak | "what, you mean it's not my memory anymore?!?" |
| 06:50.56 | brlcad | trepan: take off, eh |
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| 06:53.59 | DTRemenak | hmm....looks like I can't kill autoreconf in the middle of autogen anymore :( |
| 06:54.28 | brlcad | no? |
| 06:54.37 | DTRemenak | autogen catches it and aborts |
| 06:54.40 | brlcad | it should quit altogether, no? |
| 06:54.45 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 06:54.52 | brlcad | ahh, you want to intentinoally break it for manual? |
| 06:54.55 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 06:55.01 | brlcad | argl |
| 06:55.01 | DTRemenak | autoreconf takes close to 3 hours here |
| 06:55.12 | brlcad | you serious? |
| 06:55.14 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 06:55.19 | brlcad | why? |
| 06:55.21 | DTRemenak | no clue |
| 06:55.33 | brlcad | but manual doesn't? |
| 06:55.40 | DTRemenak | correct...like 2:40 |
| 06:55.44 | DTRemenak | minutes:seconds |
| 06:55.45 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:55.48 | brlcad | ooh |
| 06:56.17 | brlcad | that's crazy.. it should be running pretty much the same steps |
| 06:56.20 | DTRemenak | dunno what's different, or why reconf takes so long |
| 06:56.22 | DTRemenak | but it does |
| 06:56.46 | brlcad | if you run autoreconf with no options, does it still take that long? |
| 06:56.51 | DTRemenak | dunno |
| 06:57.00 | brlcad | and/or with "-vis" option |
| 06:57.30 | brlcad | what os/version is that? first i've heard of that issue |
| 06:58.11 | brlcad | you can still bypass autoreconf -- run: AUTORECONF=/bin/false ./autogen.sh |
| 06:58.24 | DTRemenak | dragonfly 1.6.1 (same thing on 1.2 and 1.4 when I was running them), autoconf 2.60, automake 1.9.6, libtool 1.5.22 |
| 06:58.28 | brlcad | ah, that's right |
| 06:58.48 | brlcad | funky bsdness .. still exceptionally odd |
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| 06:59.01 | DTRemenak | no problem on my linux boxen |
| 06:59.03 | brlcad | even moreso that it actually "completes" after hours instead of inf looping |
| 06:59.15 | DTRemenak | I found that odd too |
| 06:59.56 | DTRemenak | could be it runs into a limit and recovers from the crash to complete. never looked though the logs. |
| 07:00.21 | brlcad | you don't thrash I hope.. out of memory or something? |
| 07:00.49 | DTRemenak | autoreconf with no options fails (after 7:20 mins) |
| 07:01.08 | brlcad | why'd it fail? |
| 07:01.09 | DTRemenak | configure.ac:80: required file `misc/config.guess' not found |
| 07:01.17 | DTRemenak | autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1 |
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| 07:02.24 | brlcad | fyi, bzfs crashes before runMainLoop() |
| 07:02.30 | DTRemenak | heh, before? |
| 07:02.47 | brlcad | somewhere before |
| 07:03.07 | DTRemenak | initserver or serverstart |
| 07:03.10 | DTRemenak | i suppose |
| 07:04.02 | DTRemenak | heh, I didn't realize we had baby carriages in bzfs now... initStartupPrams(argc,argv) |
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| 07:06.28 | daniel_jackson | hey have any of you guys had players log into your severs via proxy like tor? |
| 07:07.01 | DTRemenak | a number of servers run the torblock plugin to prevent exactly such an occurance |
| 07:07.28 | daniel_jackson | really it is plugin for bzfs? |
| 07:07.49 | brlcad | really |
| 07:08.05 | daniel_jackson | I guess it isn't implemented on the server tadd is using |
| 07:08.48 | daniel_jackson | I'm one of his/lodxcol's unix nerds |
| 07:09.01 | daniel_jackson | no "owners" |
| 07:09.18 | DTRemenak | brlcad: after fixing that and a few other unfound files, autoreconf with no options takes a bit over two minutes |
| 07:09.58 | DTRemenak | which seems reasonable |
| 07:10.15 | daniel_jackson | so bricad is the torblock plugin in the 2.0.9 bzfs source? |
| 07:10.22 | DTRemenak | it is |
| 07:10.35 | DTRemenak | and he's brlcad, not bricad (L not I) |
| 07:10.54 | DTRemenak | if you want his client to beep at him :) |
| 07:11.25 | brlcad | er, missing the hilight *ahem* ;) |
| 07:11.51 | daniel_jackson | what? |
| 07:12.00 | daxxar | brlcad: You're so kind. ;-) |
| 07:12.03 | daxxar | Good morning! :) |
| 07:12.52 | daniel_jackson | well thanks for the info b-r-l-c-a-d |
| 07:13.01 | daniel_jackson | I'll nagg tadd about it |
| 07:13.02 | brlcad | you're quite welcome |
| 07:13.11 | brlcad | d a n i e l _ j a c k s o n |
| 07:13.14 | daxxar | I wonder, does irssi hilight if you have control-characters in the string? |
| 07:13.22 | daxxar | Like, brlcad |
| 07:13.34 | brlcad | nope |
| 07:13.38 | daxxar | Neato. |
| 07:14.30 | daniel_jackson | hey I can load it from "/loadplugin" so it would be called torblock.so? |
| 07:15.01 | DTRemenak | presumably |
| 07:15.08 | daniel_jackson | ok well thanks guys |
| 07:15.12 | daniel_jackson | cya |
| 07:15.24 | DTRemenak | torBlock.so on case-sensitive file systems |
| 07:15.28 | DTRemenak | but you already left |
| 07:15.30 | DTRemenak | so whatever |
| 07:16.29 | DTRemenak | hm, after running autoreconf by itself, fixing the problems, and running it again, autogen completes in 5:26 |
| 07:16.45 | brlcad | that seems better |
| 07:16.50 | DTRemenak | it does indeed |
| 07:16.55 | brlcad | autogen runs with -vis by default |
| 07:17.39 | brlcad | having autoreconf blow away config.guess seems like a bug in your version |
| 07:17.57 | brlcad | the .backup is a safeguard that the script does just in case something like that happens |
| 07:18.01 | DTRemenak | could be, quite easily |
| 07:20.00 | DTRemenak | it's more "which bugs does this version have" than "is this version buggy" :) |
| 07:22.07 | brlcad | quite |
| 07:22.29 | brlcad | i did? |
| 07:22.33 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 07:22.40 | DTRemenak | it no longer spews every command it runs |
| 07:22.51 | brlcad | i vaguely recall you mentioning something |
| 07:22.54 | brlcad | oooh, gotya |
| 07:23.00 | DTRemenak | that was a long time ago that I mentioned something |
| 07:23.20 | DTRemenak | it was just recently that I was presently surprised by a very small build log :) |
| 07:23.22 | brlcad | heh, totally forgot .. just happened to get to that lil tweak |
| 07:23.34 | DTRemenak | makes errors way easier to spot |
| 07:23.36 | brlcad | sane defaults |
| 07:23.39 | DTRemenak | yay |
| 07:24.22 | brlcad | i don't know how many times i've argued with the automake guys about having automake provide more silence options |
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| 07:24.51 | daniel_jackson | brlcad you still here? |
| 07:24.57 | DTRemenak | those of us who like silence appreciate your efforts :) |
| 07:25.16 | DTRemenak | daniel_jackson: problem? |
| 07:25.19 | daniel_jackson | ah I'm glad to see I'm helping! lol |
| 07:25.23 | brlcad | like ability to pipe commands through a script or something so you could sed the entire compile to just "Compiling WorldWeapons.cxx... [ok]" or somesuch unless the build failed, then it'd show the build rule and the failure |
| 07:25.24 | DTRemenak | heh, not you :) |
| 07:25.35 | daniel_jackson | yes I had a brainfart |
| 07:25.40 | DTRemenak | ooh, that'd be cool |
| 07:26.00 | brlcad | i can do it now, but it requires absurd effort |
| 07:26.01 | DTRemenak | though I'd probably still run in silent mode |
| 07:26.11 | daniel_jackson | whats the command to list the loaded plugins? |
| 07:26.17 | DTRemenak | "making all in <dir>" is good enough for me |
| 07:26.18 | brlcad | basically wrapping the compiles manually in a build app/script that parses the output |
| 07:26.34 | brlcad | and overriding CXX/CC and configure time |
| 07:26.38 | DTRemenak | daniel_jackson: /help lists the commands |
| 07:26.53 | daniel_jackson | it doesn't show all of it |
| 07:27.07 | DTRemenak | and I think it's /listplugins, but I'm not sure |
| 07:27.19 | DTRemenak | what do you mean by "doesn't show all of it" |
| 07:27.19 | brlcad | nasty stuff, but there's a couple projects that do it very well .. but its' just not worth it :) |
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| 07:27.40 | daniel_jackson | it only shows the basic admin commands |
| 07:28.47 | daniel_jackson | doesn't help that tadd didn't setup the help pages either |
| 07:28.51 | Rawk | hey daniel_jackson!! |
| 07:29.20 | brlcad | wow, bzfs seems hosed after the very first function call |
| 07:29.38 | brlcad | are there any other static/globals other than the singletons that get initialized? |
| 07:29.46 | daniel_jackson | hey rawk, I'm disturbing these guys silence, so whats the command to list the loaded plugins |
| 07:30.01 | DTRemenak | daniel_jackson: sorry, /? |
| 07:30.09 | daniel_jackson | I |
| 07:30.14 | daniel_jackson | I'm kidding |
| 07:30.17 | DTRemenak | and it will list every one of them |
| 07:30.25 | brlcad | you're not disturbing my silence |
| 07:30.26 | DTRemenak | no, I mean, "/?", not "/help" |
| 07:30.37 | DTRemenak | and /listplugins is correct |
| 07:30.59 | daniel_jackson | its does not list any info about loading or unlading plugins through /? |
| 07:31.35 | daniel_jackson | nI'm getting unknown command |
| 07:32.01 | DTRemenak | it lists every command in the commandmap. if it's not in the commandmap, perhaps the server does not support plugins. |
| 07:32.03 | daniel_jackson | I don't know they could have recompiled the server wrong |
| 07:32.23 | daniel_jackson | tha could be |
| 07:32.32 | brlcad | it's not wrong, it just might be disabled |
| 07:32.55 | daniel_jackson | true |
| 07:33.00 | brlcad | unless it's your server.. and they compiled it wrong |
| 07:33.52 | daniel_jackson | no I'm the just brainiac helping the the mac user and the map maker with newtwork support and security |
| 07:34.28 | daniel_jackson | ok where'd my easy go to? |
| 07:34.42 | daniel_jackson | ok where'd my easy buttongo to? |
| 07:35.30 | brlcad | I think you left it in #wahwah |
| 07:35.38 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 07:36.02 | daniel_jackson | what your cpu is fryed, np let me just press the easy button! |
| 07:37.03 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how's your server going? (or not going) |
| 07:37.30 | daniel_jackson | its not really going anywhere right now |
| 07:37.49 | daniel_jackson | I did tidy up the cabling though! lol |
| 07:39.22 | daniel_jackson | yep you guys are right it either was not compiled with plugin support or the support is diabled due to no plugins being loaded in the config |
| 07:40.45 | daniel_jackson | well rawk I'm sry to have just dumped that project on you, I didn't mean for it to happen like that |
| 07:40.51 | Rawk | can't you load them from in bzflag without loading them in the config? |
| 07:41.15 | daniel_jackson | not if its disabled |
| 07:41.46 | daniel_jackson | which I can't verify because I don't have ssh access |
| 07:42.40 | daniel_jackson | ah and the pains start up in my head! lol |
| 07:42.41 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: I downloaded bzflag svn trunk/ for test that plugin, but that's as far as I've got. |
| 07:42.55 | daniel_jackson | np |
| 07:42.58 | Rawk | *testing |
| 07:44.27 | daniel_jackson | just to let you know I'll have to go into that terrifying place called outside for 12 days! lol |
| 07:44.50 | Rawk | oh? |
| 07:45.01 | daniel_jackson | no mice except for the ones that bite |
| 07:45.24 | daniel_jackson | no I'm going to yellowstone national park for 10 day |
| 07:45.26 | daniel_jackson | s |
| 07:46.08 | daniel_jackson | heres the park website: |
| 07:46.10 | daniel_jackson | http://www.nps.gov/yell/ |
| 07:46.11 | Rawk | oooh, a tour? |
| 07:46.42 | daniel_jackson | some of it but I want go out a wrestle with the bears! lol |
| 07:47.36 | daniel_jackson | no I like photograhy, so theres a lot of lanscape photos along with wild life photos you can take |
| 07:47.59 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: "...visitors must stay at least 25 yards away from bison or elk and 100 yards away from bears." ;-) |
| 07:48.30 | daniel_jackson | hey you use the metric system you don't know yards are! lol |
| 07:49.16 | DTRemenak | brlcad: bzfs runs fine for me (doesn't do curl stuff right though) |
| 07:49.41 | daniel_jackson | check out the geological info |
| 07:49.57 | daniel_jackson | thats big story of yellowstone |
| 07:50.05 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: ok..... "...visitors must stay at least 22.86 meters away from bison or elk and 91.44 meters away from bears." :-P |
| 07:50.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r14225 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx: curl multi handle is static, don't clean up after it. also don't keep asking for new ones if the one you have already is working. should only 'leak' one total handle. |
| 07:51.15 | daniel_jackson | lets chat in private about it |
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| 13:26.32 | eTangenT | g'morning guys |
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| 13:32.25 | eTangenT | bah |
| 13:32.28 | eTangenT | I don't know what the deal is |
| 13:32.36 | eTangenT | I cannot make install bzflag on my system |
| 13:32.43 | eTangenT | neither 2.0.9 SVN or 2.1 SVN |
| 13:37.30 | eTangenT | I can run ./configure and make just fine, but make install fails, because it's not finding what it needs to do for everything |
| 13:37.52 | eTangenT | as such, it's not copying anything over or anything, and when it tests soemthing, it dies because it can't find the file(s) |
| 13:39.47 | eTangenT | brlcad: You around by any chance? |
| 13:40.03 | delusional_ | too early |
| 13:40.24 | eTangenT | delusional_: Would you have any ideas as to why I can't make install? |
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| 13:40.42 | delusional_ | i havent compiled in 8 months |
| 13:45.06 | eTangenT | this is stupid, I'm thinking. |
| 13:45.18 | eTangenT | It must be something with Kubuntu, because this never happened with SuSE. |
| 13:46.58 | eTangenT | or at least with the packages in Ubuntu's repositories |
| 13:54.04 | scott | eTangenT: do you know what you are missing? |
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| 13:54.58 | scott | http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is great for finding the package name of a specific file |
| 13:55.57 | scott | paste the output from a make install to a pastebin |
| 13:56.47 | eTangenT | scott, on emoment |
| 13:58.04 | eTangenT | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/491166 |
| 13:58.53 | scott | missing man5 |
| 13:58.55 | scott | heh |
| 13:58.57 | scott | one sec |
| 14:02.12 | eTangenT | it's different for 2.1 build though |
| 14:02.45 | eTangenT | this is what the 2.1 make install gives me: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/491174 |
| 14:04.07 | scott | # |
| 14:04.07 | scott | test -z "/usr/local/share/bzflag/l10n" || "/usr/local/share/bzflag/l10n" |
| 14:04.08 | scott | # |
| 14:04.08 | scott | /bin/bash: /usr/local/share/bzflag/l10n: is a directory |
| 14:04.37 | scott | crazy |
| 14:04.47 | scott | i cant find man5 for ubuntu |
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| 14:07.33 | eTangenT | heh |
| 14:07.35 | eTangenT | this is crazy |
| 14:07.40 | eTangenT | well, I gotta get ready for work now |
| 14:07.43 | eTangenT | I'll be back later |
| 14:07.47 | eTangenT | if anyone has ideas, pm me |
| 14:08.03 | eTangenT | oh christ, I work till 5 |
| 14:09.03 | scott | well, the first one is just trying to install the man pages |
| 14:09.22 | scott | the binaries probably installed properly |
| 14:09.28 | scott | did you try running it? |
| 14:10.20 | eTangenT | No binaries installed |
| 14:12.12 | scott | you could hack the makefile to bypass those tests |
| 14:12.17 | scott | man is in your path |
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| 14:26.14 | eTangenT | scott, what if I set prefix to /usr |
| 14:26.17 | eTangenT | instead of /usr/local |
| 14:26.41 | eTangenT | man5 is in /usr/share/man |
| 14:26.53 | scott | yeah, that should work |
| 14:27.15 | eTangenT | will try when I get home |
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| 16:35.54 | donny_baker | forums error-> phpBB : Critical Error |
| 16:36.25 | ts | eek |
| 16:36.32 | ts | JeffM2501: Did you see it? |
| 16:36.40 | donny_baker | same on wiki |
| 16:36.48 | donny_baker | wiki error-> Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /usr/web/my.bzflag.org/wiki/includes/User.php on line 703 |
| 16:37.26 | menotume | yes, i'm working on it |
| 16:37.36 | TimRiker | restarting the db? |
| 16:37.36 | ts | Odd, at 18:07 all worked |
| 16:38.45 | menotume | TimRiker: i ran myql.... restart |
| 16:38.45 | menotume | it sopped, but won't start |
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| 16:39.54 | TimRiker | neato. |
| 16:40.58 | menotume | got a phone # for burlycad ? :) |
| 16:41.13 | TimRiker | nope |
| 16:41.24 | menotume | k, i will hack at it :P |
| 16:42.14 | Erroneous | hack at what? |
| 16:42.40 | ts | menotume: SportChick might have one |
| 16:42.46 | donny_baker | the mySql db is down hard |
| 16:42.54 | donny_baker | wiki and forums are down |
| 16:44.09 | ts | ~bzflist |
| 16:44.10 | TimRiker | I miss all the linux tools, and I miss the clean filesystem layout in debian. |
| 16:44.27 | ts | heh, why s=3 ibot? |
| 16:44.38 | TimRiker | dunno |
| 16:45.11 | ts | odd |
| 16:45.28 | menotume | clean, heh |
| 16:45.50 | SportChick | ? |
| 16:45.57 | menotume | /etc, /usr/etc, /usr/local/etc, etc, etc |
| 16:45.58 | SportChick | one what, menotume/ts? |
| 16:46.08 | menotume | stuff is alllll over |
| 16:46.15 | ts | SportChick: menotume needs to call brlcad ;) |
| 16:46.22 | SportChick | he won't answer |
| 16:46.26 | SportChick | he hates his phone |
| 16:46.27 | menotume | i think it's a burlyism |
| 16:46.41 | menotume | i'll fix it, he seems to have moved some stuff |
| 16:46.46 | menotume | will take a bit to find it |
| 16:46.50 | TimRiker | I think I've fixed it. |
| 16:47.03 | menotume | :) |
| 16:47.07 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 16:47.11 | menotume | ya |
| 16:47.18 | menotume | what did you do please ? |
| 16:47.24 | ts | SportChick: Hrm, I wonder why one would not want to answer |
| 16:47.29 | TimRiker | for some reason /var/tmp was gone. I remade it. |
| 16:47.35 | menotume | ok |
| 16:47.37 | SportChick | ts: he hates the phone |
| 16:47.41 | menotume | that was the original problem |
| 16:47.49 | SportChick | if you *ever* call him, don't bother leaving a message - he won't check it :) |
| 16:47.49 | TimRiker | "original" ? |
| 16:47.57 | menotume | you didn't see my pm ? |
| 16:48.04 | ts | SportChick: heh, it doesn't bite, does it? ;) |
| 16:48.08 | menotume | <menotume> getting error: Can't create/write to file '/var/tmp/MYZrOGU2' (Errcode: 2) |
| 16:48.08 | menotume | <menotume> so, i changed my.cnf entry that was pointing to non-existant /var/tmp dir |
| 16:48.22 | menotume | then, retsrated mysql, and poof |
| 16:48.24 | TimRiker | heh. nope. just read it now. :) |
| 16:48.29 | menotume | okies :) |
| 16:48.48 | menotume | well, thx |
| 16:48.57 | menotume | that was the big fix i guess :) |
| 16:49.03 | menotume | should have just rtried that |
| 16:49.12 | ts | SportChick: but leaving me a message is a waste of time, too ;) |
| 16:49.18 | menotume | Tim, always taking the easy out :P |
| 16:49.22 | ts | either one gets me instantly or never |
| 16:49.26 | TimRiker | :) |
| 16:49.31 | menotume | ~TimRiker++ |
| 16:50.13 | TimRiker | one of these days xmission.bzflag.org will return. I just need to find a 1u server. then I'll setup a backup db/wiki/bb/etc server there. |
| 16:50.22 | TimRiker | probably leagues etc. |
| 16:50.40 | menotume | yay xmission ! |
| 16:50.59 | TimRiker | my home dsl line would not handle the traffic well. the xmission box if/when I find one, would be on like 3 oc3 connections. |
| 16:51.12 | TimRiker | 1u server donations welcome. :) |
| 16:51.14 | menotume | boo xmission with lag :) |
| 16:51.54 | ts | dsl is a dead technologie..can't await FTTH |
| 16:51.57 | TimRiker | xmission had lag for you? it's had/would have a crapload of connectivity. |
| 16:52.46 | TimRiker | my home line is dsl. xmission.bzflag.org would be/was direct 100M to multiple oc3/ds3 connections. |
| 16:53.53 | JeffM2501 | sounds like the standard 100$ hosting deal, they donate the bandwith to you? |
| 16:55.36 | menotume | i remember a fair amount of lag, yes |
| 16:55.44 | menotume | surprising for a US server |
| 16:55.59 | menotume | this was, what, about 3 yrs ago i think |
| 16:58.54 | donny_baker | TimRiker: no room for a 2U? |
| 17:03.25 | TimRiker | donny_baker: I could likely get a 2U in, yes. |
| 17:04.19 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: xmission has offered to host for free. I'd have like a t1 worth of bandwidth for free. After that I'd have to pay standard rates. |
| 17:05.13 | TimRiker | menotume: hmm. Well, if I find a machine, I'll look into the lag. It should be fast. |
| 17:05.39 | JeffM2501 | 300ish gigs a month? |
| 17:05.49 | JeffM2501 | what is there rate after that? |
| 17:07.12 | TimRiker | not sure. I suspect that db,list,bb, and a small player server would fit in the free limit. |
| 17:07.43 | JeffM2501 | I'm just trying to compare it to other services |
| 17:08.18 | KTL | mg is a lot more effective when fired in short pulses |
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| 17:09.43 | TimRiker | well, if we keep it under the t1-ish limit, then free is not a bad deal. |
| 17:11.22 | JeffM2501 | the big question will be is how much bandwith will the redundant database stuff use |
| 17:12.22 | JeffM2501 | oh I remember now, I had a question |
| 17:12.22 | TimRiker | agreed |
| 17:12.23 | JeffM2501 | is there any reaosn to keep the "email string" ? |
| 17:12.42 | TimRiker | is there any reason to get rid of it? |
| 17:12.45 | JeffM2501 | global reg has constact info in the profile, so users can find that offline |
| 17:12.57 | JeffM2501 | wastes space and is mostly used for abbuse |
| 17:13.19 | JeffM2501 | also adds a level of confusion as people think they HAVE to put there addy there |
| 17:15.27 | TimRiker | I guess I'm not attached to it. Was nice once upon a time. |
| 17:15.49 | JeffM2501 | before the days of global, sure |
| 17:15.57 | JeffM2501 | when e-mail was new ;) |
| 17:16.02 | JeffM2501 | now it's a privacy thing |
| 17:16.05 | TimRiker | kill it if you like. |
| 17:16.17 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
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| 17:34.36 | brlcad | that was another admin -- they removed /var/tmp for some other purpose .. not bsdism ;) |
| 17:36.29 | brlcad | curiously enough, that dir was removed like 7 months ago iirc |
| 17:42.36 | KTL | the more text to identify a player the more he can play with that text and still remain recognizable |
| 17:42.50 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 17:43.31 | KTL | harmless found out that the guy who killed him all the time always used the same emailstring, hehe me |
| 17:43.53 | KTL | he only did after being killed many times :) |
| 17:43.59 | KTL | but now it is the first thing he looks at :D |
| 17:44.23 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: email string is used for other things too. team tags, for instance |
| 17:44.37 | JeffM2501 | then we should add a team tag field |
| 17:44.42 | Erroneous | fine by me |
| 17:44.53 | Erroneous | but you'll have the same problems with it ;) |
| 17:45.10 | JeffM2501 | not if it's only set by the server ;) |
| 17:45.36 | Erroneous | the server doesn't know anything about player affiliations |
| 17:45.46 | Erroneous | neither does the list server, nor anyone else |
| 17:45.48 | JeffM2501 | it can with groups and a plug-in ;) |
| 17:46.35 | Erroneous | until you redo the groups system, that is not anywhere NEAR friendly enough |
| 17:46.49 | Erroneous | and even then, questionable |
| 17:47.04 | JeffM2501 | is providing a team field a major feature we need to support? |
| 17:47.24 | Erroneous | I'd hardly call an arbitrary string field a "major feature" but yes |
| 17:47.35 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 17:48.32 | Erroneous | how's this for an idea: send a player's email as blank unless and until he has TALK permission |
| 17:48.54 | Erroneous | or add a new permission for it |
| 17:49.56 | Erroneous | that'd get rid of most of the abuses, and provide a way to clamp down on it at the server owner's descretion, without cramping the players' style |
| 17:52.12 | Erroneous | alternatively, fix up organizations/groups, and add player aliasing. that'd take care of most of the legit uses for registered players. |
| 17:53.08 | JeffM2501 | at that point you'd be redoing most of of global auth ;) |
| 17:57.14 | Erroneous | maybe it needs a bit of that :) |
| 17:57.25 | JeffM2501 | I'd say more then maybe |
| 17:57.45 | JeffM2501 | I'd have to read that thar php book |
| 17:57.56 | Erroneous | or write it in something else |
| 17:58.23 | JeffM2501 | like? |
| 17:58.45 | Erroneous | perl, c, whatever |
| 17:58.51 | Erroneous | sh |
| 17:58.53 | Erroneous | :P |
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| 18:28.05 | brlcad | teams frequently change too and can/are created on the fly |
| 18:28.14 | brlcad | that's all league fluidity |
| 18:31.43 | ts | JeffM2501: Email is used much in league. I think it should be not be able to be entered by user but being optionally set to something not empty by plugins |
| 18:34.45 | KTL | ah player aliasing :) mmm sounds nasty :) fear my alias :) |
| 18:41.40 | catay | also gets a lot used for setting a funny quote or for advertising some bz related event, or desperate messages like 'I am looking for a team' :p |
| 18:42.10 | Chestal | I have seen it used for email once or twice in all the years :-) |
| 18:42.17 | Chestal | (except for the auto-email) |
| 18:42.18 | catay | yeah |
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| 18:43.17 | catay | I think a lot of players will dislike it when it's gone without alternative imho |
| 18:45.49 | KTL | btw, i seem to miss the whole fixed-team-related aspect of the game ... i have seen more people talk about teams then having had a real team as opponent |
| 18:47.24 | KTL | in badgerking you don't have control over what team you are assigned too |
| 18:47.34 | catay | not sure I understand you correctly, but with team I reffer here to league teams |
| 18:47.38 | KTL | so i get confused about the colors, and kill more teammates |
| 18:47.38 | catay | or call it clans |
| 18:47.44 | KTL | clans, well, where are they? |
| 18:48.02 | KTL | i see websites |
| 18:48.03 | catay | ducati league and Gu league |
| 18:48.04 | catay | league.bzflag.org |
| 18:48.21 | catay | http://gu.bzleague.com/ |
| 18:48.36 | catay | http://pillbox.bzleague.com/ |
| 18:48.46 | KTL | http://league.bzflag.org/index.php?link=players searchin for ... serious names |
| 18:49.08 | catay | all leagues with different teams |
| 18:49.16 | KTL | harddriver ah he is good |
| 18:49.28 | KTL | variably |
| 18:49.36 | catay | well, you have to look at the team page :) |
| 18:49.55 | KTL | CapN, does he still play?? |
| 18:50.09 | catay | Yes. |
| 18:50.20 | Birdie | he lives from hunting me:( |
| 18:50.34 | KTL | he is stronger then me in 1-3 bullet fights |
| 18:50.42 | catay | but a team is not really fixed , I am in Untamed for duc league and in DragonSpire for pillbox for example |
| 18:51.05 | Birdie | Me and capn are quite even |
| 18:51.11 | Birdie | in ffa i'm better cause he doesnt play it |
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| 18:52.40 | KTL | shouldn't there be trained tactics to make a team ... |
| 18:53.03 | KTL | like the mongols hunted animals by having an enormous shrinking circle around a forest |
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| 18:53.59 | KTL | and the moment strong players cooperate |
| 18:54.04 | KTL | they depopulate the server |
| 18:54.26 | Chestal | there is rarely good teamplay on the public servers |
| 18:55.35 | catay | playing on public servers gets boring quickly, but playing league matches is the coolest thing ever |
| 18:55.51 | KTL | if a team was in one room or teamspeak, so they could communicate fast, i could see differences |
| 18:56.03 | catay | some teams use teamspeak |
| 18:56.33 | catay | you should give it a try KTL , join ducati league :p |
| 18:57.09 | KTL | it are mostly ctf's ? |
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| 18:57.18 | catay | yup |
| 18:58.11 | Chestal | I think all leagues are CTF. Don't knwo a thing about plosileague, though. And then there is the 1vs1 of course |
| 18:58.14 | KTL | i should get teamspeak software working on my debian, never had a look at it |
| 18:58.49 | KTL | a deb package 8D |
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| 19:04.24 | ts | names |
| 19:04.24 | ts | 20:48 < catay> all leagues with different teams |
| 19:04.24 | ts | 20:49 < KTL> harddriver ah he is good |
| 19:04.24 | ts | 20:49 < KTL> variably |
| 19:04.38 | ts | aaarg, sorry |
| 19:04.45 | KTL | :) |
| 19:05.35 | ts | mark and move cursor -> eek :/ |
| 19:06.08 | catay | I forgive you ;) |
| 19:08.20 | TheRedBaron | catay: some teams don't need teamspeak :) |
| 19:10.04 | ts | Most teams don't need cheats, either |
| 19:10.33 | catay | well, it's been ages since I used it |
| 19:10.39 | catay | teamspeak that is :P |
| 19:11.18 | ts | Heh, I ask my mates every time for it |
| 19:11.33 | catay | it comes in handy when you play with a new player, to give him some guidance during a match |
| 19:11.47 | ts | I play better when talking about something having nothing to do with the match |
| 19:12.26 | catay | hehe |
| 19:12.36 | Birdie | typing makes you die |
| 19:14.13 | KTL | everytime someone takes my attention during play i start making mistakes |
| 19:17.10 | ts | I need no concentration |
| 19:17.29 | ts | Too much concentration leads to being too motivated for me |
| 19:18.07 | ts | Every time I try to play especially good I play miserable ;) |
| 19:42.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r14227 10/branches/v2_0_cs_branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/BackgroundRenderer.cxx: finish cleaning of gstate for mountains |
| 19:42.35 | TheRedBaron | hrm, with nView set to span, would bz stretch aross the two monitors |
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| 19:43.55 | KTL | it stretches across my 2 monitors ... |
| 19:44.05 | KTL | i use -window |
| 19:51.26 | tannerld | ? |
| 19:54.22 | KTL | euhm to play |
| 19:54.25 | KTL | on a single screen |
| 19:54.38 | KTL | the window stretched of 2 monitors is unplayable |
| 19:55.05 | KTL | over* |
| 19:57.54 | KTL | gui > display settings> change video format, i remember it offered the choice, a resolution spanning 2 monitors, or just 1, now it does not anymore |
| 20:00.22 | TheRedBaron | um, IIRC there isn't a GUI option for spanning the monitor |
| 20:00.35 | TheRedBaron | and I"m wondering if it can be done, outside of utilizing bz |
| 20:01.48 | tannerld | bzflag has some type of -view option |
| 20:02.05 | tannerld | -view {normal|stereo|stacked|three|anaglyph|interlaced}] |
| 20:09.32 | KTL | they don't seem to help |
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| 20:36.46 | TimRiker | the resolutions shows are gathered from the video drivers. if the drivers offer single monitor and dual monitor resoltions, then they will be in the list. if not, they won't be. |
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| 20:37.52 | TheRedBaron | but you can run multiple monitors are different resolutions, not "one big resolution" |
| 20:38.06 | TheRedBaron | the video driver works around that |
| 20:38.59 | KTL | i just tried 12840x480 hihi |
| 20:39.03 | KTL | 1280 |
| 20:39.46 | KTL | strange, i can get the svn client in a window, but something changed so that i can not get my normal client in a window anymore |
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| 21:48.48 | tannerld | how can I run commands on a server via bzflag from the command line? |
| 21:50.06 | brad | use bzadmin? main client can't do it |
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| 22:00.01 | tannerld | bzadmin doesn't have the command to save a world |
| 22:00.58 | CBG | can't /saveworld ? |
| 22:01.06 | CBG | I'd guess not, since bzadmin wouldn't usually load the world... |
| 22:08.56 | tannerld | eheh |
| 22:08.59 | brad | whats wrong with just joining a server with a normal client and using /saveworld? ;) |
| 22:09.23 | tannerld | thats not fitting the application... |
| 22:09.26 | tannerld | *script |
| 22:09.30 | brad | ooh |
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| 22:48.16 | smallfoot- | when is new release? |
| 22:48.19 | smallfoot- | i waited long time |
| 22:48.20 | smallfoot- | it never came |
| 22:48.21 | a_meteorite | when it's done |
| 22:48.22 | smallfoot- | now im fucking angry |
| 22:48.26 | a_meteorite | language |
| 22:48.33 | smallfoot- | sorry |
| 22:48.47 | smallfoot- | my mom went sleep, so now she wont check on me :D |
| 22:49.15 | a_meteorite | this channel is strictly no swearing/vulgarity/slurs |
| 22:49.38 | a_meteorite | the release is done when it's done... the devs don't have timelines really |
| 22:49.58 | a_meteorite | though, by my personal estimates, I say a few months after GSoC |
| 22:50.17 | smallfoot- | few months? ZOMG!!!!11 |
| 22:50.23 | smallfoot- | thats like long time dude |
| 22:50.27 | a_meteorite | not really |
| 22:50.34 | smallfoot- | make nightly builds |
| 22:50.51 | a_meteorite | time consuming and development does not happen that fast to warrant nightlies |
| 22:51.07 | a_meteorite | maybe weekly builds, but you'd still have to convince the devs to do it |
| 22:51.33 | a_meteorite | you can also build from source, they maintain a svn repo which they work on exclusively |
| 22:52.45 | purple_cow | if you want it to come faster, you could help |
| 22:52.57 | a_meteorite | yup, patches always welcome |
| 22:53.55 | a_meteorite | unless it's like one guys' "patch" - it was a whole rewrite, hehe |
| 22:55.47 | a_meteorite | *nearly a whole |
| 22:56.00 | TheRedBaron | the only thing I hate about patches welcome, is my ignorance |
| 22:56.18 | TheRedBaron | Sure, i'd love to help out, but i have zilch knowledge of coding |
| 22:56.21 | a_meteorite | not knowing c/c++/game development does not indicate ignorance |
| 22:56.21 | Winny | Its been almost exactly one year since a official release |
| 22:56.23 | TheRedBaron | except qbasic |
| 22:56.34 | a_meteorite | make a qbasic client from scratch ;) |
| 22:56.37 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 22:56.48 | Winny | the developers are working on 2.2, which will take some time? |
| 22:56.54 | Winny | (I think) |
| 22:56.58 | purple_cow | or learn something new |
| 22:57.04 | purple_cow | which I know is a totally unreasonable suggestion |
| 22:57.08 | purple_cow | but I'm making it anyway |
| 22:57.26 | a_meteorite | Winny: yes, 2.0.x won't get anymore official releases |
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| 23:03.51 | smallfoot- | someone should make nightly builds |
| 23:03.53 | smallfoot- | or like betas |
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| 23:04.37 | TheRedBaron | smallfoot-: they do make betas, when the release date is nearing |
| 23:06.21 | Winny | here are some beta builds |
| 23:06.22 | Winny | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/ |
| 23:06.41 | smallfoot- | thanks |
| 23:06.48 | smallfoot- | zomg, having .bz as domain is totaly cool!! |
| 23:07.28 | CBG | smallfoot-: bzflag is developed by a very small group of people in their free time. they get nothing in return |
| 23:07.46 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 23:07.53 | smallfoot- | someone should give them food or something |
| 23:07.56 | CBG | so, more often than not, a nightly build would be exactly the same as the one from the previous day |
| 23:08.08 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 23:08.10 | CBG | smallfoot-: you can donate at sf.net |
| 23:08.30 | smallfoot- | my credit card dont work with internets |
| 23:08.37 | CBG | a weekly build, yeah, you'd probably have a couple changes each time, but not a big new thing every week |
| 23:08.37 | smallfoot- | and i never almost play bzflag |
| 23:09.45 | CBG | I never ever play... |
| 23:10.06 | tannerld | is it possible for bzflag to run in the background? |
| 23:10.37 | a_meteorite | tannerld: sure why not? |
| 23:10.50 | a_meteorite | press f1 and minimize it |
| 23:11.55 | tannerld | hmm |
| 23:12.02 | tannerld | bzflag with a geometry 1x1 is nifty :P |
| 23:15.25 | smallfoot- | i downloaded bzflag nightly build, and there is no changelog |
| 23:16.13 | Winny | if you hardly ever play, why do you need such an up to date build? |
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| 23:24.36 | CBG | what nightly build? |
| 23:24.41 | CBG | we said... there are none. |
| 23:25.04 | a_meteorite | CBG: latest "official" build: http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/ |
| 23:25.05 | smallfoot- | tried the nightly build |
| 23:25.06 | smallfoot- | tis cool |
| 23:25.11 | smallfoot- | its cool |
| 23:25.12 | a_meteorite | it's not nightly though |
| 23:25.23 | a_meteorite | it just happened that it was made last night for someone specially |
| 23:25.30 | a_meteorite | *specially made |
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| 23:27.22 | smallfoot- | not the fastest, not the stablest |
| 23:27.38 | smallfoot- | but it will eventually turn out good when released, i believe |
| 23:27.54 | smallfoot- | one map made me 1 fps only :( |
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| 23:29.50 | a_meteorite | then it's something wrong with your computer and not bzflag |
| 23:30.09 | a_meteorite | make sure you have up-to-date drivers, provided by your card manufacture, not microsoft |
| 23:30.19 | a_meteorite | and how old is it? |
| 23:30.28 | a_meteorite | (or is it integrated?) |
| 23:31.27 | smallfoot- | 6 year old |
| 23:31.29 | smallfoot- | geforce4 |
| 23:31.49 | a_meteorite | it should be doing way better than that |
| 23:31.54 | smallfoot- | ya |
| 23:31.56 | a_meteorite | is it windows? |
| 23:31.58 | smallfoot- | ya |
| 23:32.03 | smallfoot- | but on the other map it 23 fps |
| 23:32.11 | a_meteorite | check to see if you have the latest drivers from nvidia |
| 23:32.17 | smallfoot- | 1 fps was on the map with grass hills |
| 23:32.20 | a_meteorite | not from windows update/ms |
| 23:32.30 | a_meteorite | that's still too little |
| 23:32.50 | a_meteorite | unless you play with more than 8x aniso |
| 23:33.05 | a_meteorite | not many do :) |
| 23:33.10 | TheRedBaron | heh, with my geforce 2gts, 120 fps on a simple ducati map :) |
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| 23:34.47 | smallfoot- | sweet |
| 23:34.48 | smallfoot- | ducati? |
| 23:35.13 | TheRedBaron | simple random map, 2shot no jumping and rico |
| 23:36.11 | smallfoot- | oh |
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| 23:36.20 | eTangenT | brlcad, or JeffM2501, are either of you around? |
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| 23:45.19 | eTangenT | I still cannot get this to compile. |
| 23:45.31 | a_meteorite | use black magic |
| 23:45.37 | eTangenT | This is ridiculous. What is different between Ubuntu and SuSE in terms of compiling... seriously. |
| 23:45.41 | eTangenT | BZ compiles on SuSE |
| 23:45.47 | eTangenT | it absolutely seems to refuse to do so in Ubuntu |
| 23:45.55 | eTangenT | I'm thinking autotools may be to blame |
| 23:45.58 | a_meteorite | I got errors on Ubuntu too |
| 23:46.23 | a_meteorite | problems with libc, iirc |
| 23:46.29 | davemicc | is it with make install? |
| 23:46.46 | eTangenT | yeah |
| 23:46.52 | eTangenT | It's problems with make install |
| 23:46.56 | eTangenT | it COMPILES |
| 23:46.58 | eTangenT | but won't install |
| 23:47.04 | eTangenT | I get this with SVN for 2.0 and 2.1 |
| 23:47.07 | davemicc | downgrade to automake1.9 ... it helped me |
| 23:47.24 | davemicc | it's in the repos |
| 23:47.52 | eTangenT | will try |
| 23:47.55 | eTangenT | downgrading now |
| 23:48.30 | davemicc | I'm not sure if you have to rebuild or not |
| 23:48.43 | davemicc | you can try not |
| 23:50.31 | eTangenT | I'm gonna rebuild anyways |
| 23:50.34 | eTangenT | doesn't take horribly long |
| 23:50.40 | eTangenT | plus gives me a chance to grab some food |
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| 23:51.07 | davemicc | did you uninstall the newer version....not sure how that works |
| 23:52.06 | eTangenT | I'm putting a suffix on the newer version |
| 23:52.49 | davemicc | go to go ... bye |