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| 01:07.54 | root | how register nick |
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| 01:09.10 | Raziel | SVN migration finished <--- wow, glad to read that :p |
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| 01:12.28 | orchid | root: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=register create an account here and use it in the game |
| 01:13.27 | TD-Linux | eeek wow |
| 01:13.40 | TD-Linux | I see we got a new CIA too |
| 01:20.29 | purple_cow | a new CIA? |
| 01:20.33 | purple_cow | what? |
| 01:28.23 | L4m3r | commits inaction |
| 01:28.33 | L4m3r | er, Commits In Action ;) |
| 01:29.02 | purple_cow | I know what CIA is |
| 01:29.16 | purple_cow | what I want to know is what TD-Linux means by "a new" one |
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| 01:31.38 | L4m3r | I think he just means it's been adjusted to announce from SVN rather than CVS |
| 01:34.54 | gl2tosl2 | anyone here good with regexs? |
| 01:35.33 | poolio | Can I list that on a resume: "I have mad leet regex using skills onee111"" |
| 01:35.43 | Jwir3 | rotfl |
| 01:36.02 | gl2tosl2 | I think that would depend on the resume....is that a yes? |
| 01:36.04 | purple_cow | you *can* list anything on a resume |
| 01:36.13 | purple_cow | it's just a question of whether you want to get hired |
| 01:36.26 | poolio | Next up, anyone here good with creating full sentences? ;) |
| 01:36.35 | poolio | purple_cow: correctomundo. |
| 01:36.44 | poolio | I just finished my first one, sent it off to brlcad :) |
| 01:38.51 | gl2tosl2 | never mind, I figured it out |
| 01:55.42 | poolio | brlcad: Oh nothing... |
| 02:28.42 | hobbsc | just hit up about a half hour of some crazy fast pillbox |
| 02:28.48 | hobbsc | my eyes are sore, hehe |
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| 02:53.32 | The_Vaxorcist | hmm, I'm trying to add the ability to check the ping times of servers on the server list |
| 02:53.53 | JeffM2501 | that's a lot of pings to send :) |
| 02:54.24 | The_Vaxorcist | yeah, thought of that - do it by request only |
| 02:54.32 | The_Vaxorcist | cache? it to |
| 02:54.36 | Thumper_ | and by ip |
| 02:54.49 | JeffM2501 | and remember most routers will block icmp pings |
| 02:54.55 | JeffM2501 | so you'll be doing protocoll udp pings |
| 02:55.12 | JeffM2501 | and the server may not accept those before a join |
| 02:55.26 | JeffM2501 | so you may have to add a new udp message that can be checked on startup |
| 02:55.47 | The_Vaxorcist | hmm - that's what i wanted to figure out |
| 02:56.02 | The_Vaxorcist | add a new message, or use icmp |
| 02:56.09 | JeffM2501 | IIRC the proto dosn't have a "ping" that you can do before join, just a game state |
| 02:56.12 | JeffM2501 | and that's more then a ping |
| 02:56.41 | JeffM2501 | ICMP will be blocked at many/ probably most hosts |
| 02:57.02 | JeffM2501 | and it's realy udp that we care about |
| 02:57.49 | The_Vaxorcist | yeah, udp will probably be easier to do |
| 02:58.54 | JeffM2501 | you have to mod the server tho |
| 02:58.59 | JeffM2501 | what version are you doing this in? |
| 02:59.17 | The_Vaxorcist | 2.1 |
| 02:59.21 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 03:00.08 | The_Vaxorcist | yeah - trying to do it in 2.0.9 would be futile |
| 03:01.39 | hobbsc | what about an average ping taken over a few samples? |
| 03:01.42 | hobbsc | or would that be too much traffic |
| 03:01.48 | hobbsc | i know that sometimes my ping varies over time |
| 03:02.07 | hobbsc | like the match i was just playing, it was super high, then lowered a bit |
| 03:02.27 | The_Vaxorcist | Over how long a period of time? |
| 03:02.42 | gl2tosl2 | hobbsc, I don't think that would work very well |
| 03:02.48 | brlcad | there's a script in misc/ that will try to actually ping each host and summarize the results |
| 03:02.48 | hobbsc | how long did it take my ping to drop, or how long would you take samples? |
| 03:03.12 | The_Vaxorcist | brlcad - that's what gave me the idea |
| 03:03.13 | hobbsc | i need to get my hands on the source and start playing with it |
| 03:03.28 | JeffM2501 | the source is pretty easy to get |
| 03:03.32 | gl2tosl2 | about how many servers are there at any given time? |
| 03:03.38 | JeffM2501 | over 200 |
| 03:04.03 | The_Vaxorcist | not the sort of thing you would want to do automatically |
| 03:04.12 | hobbsc | what's it written in? |
| 03:04.16 | JeffM2501 | C++ |
| 03:04.18 | hobbsc | guess that's an rtfm question |
| 03:04.19 | gl2tosl2 | what does the location spread look like? (geographically) |
| 03:04.22 | hobbsc | hm, i don't grok c++ |
| 03:04.23 | JeffM2501 | I think the list should get pings and keep em |
| 03:04.32 | hobbsc | guess it's as good a time as any to learn |
| 03:04.33 | JeffM2501 | hobbsc, what do you "grok"? |
| 03:04.46 | JeffM2501 | then when you have a single server selected, the client does real pings for that |
| 03:04.54 | hobbsc | python, perl, c, java, and some archaich languages for as/400s |
| 03:04.57 | hobbsc | shell scripting |
| 03:05.02 | hobbsc | tcl |
| 03:05.16 | JeffM2501 | so you can get an overview of them all at list time, but specifics for you on the one you care about. |
| 03:05.19 | hobbsc | somer ruby |
| 03:05.21 | hobbsc | some* |
| 03:05.26 | JeffM2501 | C++ is just oo C |
| 03:05.35 | JeffM2501 | and if you do java you've seen OO |
| 03:05.41 | JeffM2501 | so what is there to not get? |
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| 03:06.01 | hobbsc | JeffM2501: a whole lot of nothing, apparently. i haven't even looked at any c++ source |
| 03:06.06 | hobbsc | might as well get to crackin' |
| 03:06.18 | purple_cow | well, to be fair, C++ is a huge, hard language |
| 03:06.20 | hobbsc | can't be that hard to pick up the syntax |
| 03:06.23 | purple_cow | but most people only use 5% of it |
| 03:06.27 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 03:06.37 | JeffM2501 | but to say you don't 'grok' it ;) |
| 03:06.46 | JeffM2501 | when you say you do C.. |
| 03:06.51 | JeffM2501 | that means you at least know part of it |
| 03:06.51 | brlcad | The_Vaxorcist: I doubt you could efficiently get ping times via an icmp packet for the entire server list but if you were to implement sort of a "more server info" page for servers that included extra info, you could certainly do it on demand for a given server |
| 03:07.50 | gl2tosl2 | I suppose the goal of this is for a person to be able to easily choose the server with the lowest lag? |
| 03:07.52 | hobbsc | JeffM2501: i'll take a look at the source, i'm sure i'll pick it up |
| 03:08.17 | hobbsc | how are servers currently listed, it seems sort of random |
| 03:08.19 | hobbsc | by population? |
| 03:08.20 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I was thinking that, but just do it automaticly for the currently selected server, so you'd only do one at a time; |
| 03:08.25 | JeffM2501 | by users |
| 03:09.34 | brlcad | that could certainly work too |
| 03:09.34 | brlcad | though more info pages would still be useful in themselves |
| 03:09.35 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 03:09.41 | brlcad | see a preview of the map or a title/logo, a motd, current players, etc |
| 03:09.51 | JeffM2501 | I was thinking of also geting pings at listing times from the list, so you could have some inital idea |
| 03:09.58 | JeffM2501 | tho that may not be horribly accurate |
| 03:11.15 | brlcad | yeah, you could store the ping time to the list server and use some client-to-listserver differential to guesstimate, but it'd be seriously SWAG |
| 03:11.37 | JeffM2501 | that's why I say supliment it with a real ping for the one you care about |
| 03:11.48 | JeffM2501 | or maybe just have it be a "quality" indicator from the list |
| 03:11.52 | JeffM2501 | something vauge |
| 03:12.06 | brlcad | quality would need to be a bandwidth test :) |
| 03:12.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:12.19 | brlcad | i could see that be part of server registration in bzauthd |
| 03:12.30 | JeffM2501 | maybe have the list request those every half hour :) |
| 03:12.31 | brlcad | so it could just report |
| 03:12.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:13.14 | hobbsc | what about an option to ping a server, rather than pinging all of them? |
| 03:13.16 | JeffM2501 | tell it to send you 1000 bytes and then just time it |
| 03:13.22 | hobbsc | what kind of network resoureces would that use up? 200 pings |
| 03:13.26 | JeffM2501 | hobbsc, that's what we are saying |
| 03:13.32 | JeffM2501 | only activly ping the one you have selected |
| 03:13.41 | hobbsc | right, sorry, i'm reading a couple of things at once here |
| 03:14.03 | JeffM2501 | welcome to IRC ;) |
| 03:14.12 | hobbsc | hehe, right |
| 03:14.22 | brlcad | hmm.. no trovao |
| 03:14.26 | hobbsc | i'm on a couple of servers and i'm reading a book |
| 03:14.36 | hobbsc | anyhow, how do other games do it? don't most fps games list ping times? |
| 03:14.51 | JeffM2501 | they do background scan pings |
| 03:14.54 | JeffM2501 | IIRC |
| 03:15.03 | hobbsc | icmp? |
| 03:15.06 | JeffM2501 | tho there list of servers is often smaller |
| 03:15.09 | JeffM2501 | dunno |
| 03:15.30 | hobbsc | true |
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| 03:42.42 | RatOmeter | anyone bored enough to help me test a map? Tanks couldn't shoot each other earlier, switched back to defaults: okstatecams.dyndns.org:5155 |
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| 03:51.52 | KTL | i am getting crazy |
| 03:51.54 | KTL | c++ |
| 03:52.03 | KTL | i cant believe what i see |
| 03:52.11 | KTL | it's allmost 6 in the morning |
| 03:52.29 | KTL | and i am really starting to believe that the compiler is fooling me |
| 03:52.59 | KTL | i got a struct GridNode with a pointer to the same type |
| 03:53.08 | KTL | 2 pointers in fact |
| 03:53.30 | DTRemenak | so? |
| 03:53.52 | KTL | if i iterate that tree ... i also gave the gridnode a counter, for debugging |
| 03:54.16 | KTL | euhm no it is not iterating, it is recursively going trough all the left nodes |
| 03:54.29 | KTL | and everytime i increment the counter |
| 03:54.34 | KTL | and then i print the thing out |
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| 03:54.58 | KTL | and all counters are the same also for the right nodes that could not have possibly been passed |
| 03:55.07 | KTL | ah wait |
| 03:55.15 | KTL | first bug since 2 hours |
| 03:55.30 | KTL | that i see |
| 03:55.35 | DTRemenak | FishBon? |
| 03:57.23 | restorer | no updates on my application in the last 34 hours, no public comments |
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| 03:58.24 | DTRemenak | ahh, he's replicating |
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| 03:59.00 | JeffM2501 | laptops name is fishbone |
| 03:59.06 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 03:59.16 | JeffM2501 | helps if I plug the net cable in all the way |
| 03:59.28 | KTL | simply triing to explain a problem results in finding it ... .... .... i should learn to ... explain it to simulated listeners first ... ... |
| 04:00.03 | DTRemenak | KTL: yup :) |
| 04:00.06 | DTRemenak | restorer: sorry, I don't remember who you are :) |
| 04:00.18 | DTRemenak | err, s/:)/:(/ |
| 04:00.23 | restorer | DTRemenak: Java BZW editor app ;) |
| 04:00.29 | DTRemenak | ah |
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| 04:01.55 | JeffM2501 | toybox, fishbone, tranquility, seven. it's all themed :) |
| 04:02.02 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:24.47 | RatOmeter | KTL, my boss (from about 1986 to 2004) and I used to explain our code to each other for just that reason. You stare at the stuff you just wrote and don't really see it until you try to explain it... |
| 04:28.42 | KTL | the strongest complaint i have against c++ is the usage of const |
| 04:29.19 | KTL | i add it ... keep adding it ... compiler complains ... i remove one ... try something else ... still a complain ... i remove all of them ... |
| 04:29.36 | JeffM2501 | you keep complaining about it, yet you keep using it |
| 04:30.26 | KTL | in fact i never complain about c++, but this is a good moment, since i am half dead now |
| 04:31.32 | RatOmeter | that or a soft pillow |
| 04:31.35 | KTL | ok you win i go sleep |
| 04:31.46 | KTL | bye :) |
| 04:31.54 | RatOmeter | adios, amigo |
| 04:33.08 | RatOmeter | wait, did he say sleep? I just realised it's past 11:30 here |
| 04:33.33 | hobbsc | bah, it's 23:31 here |
| 04:33.37 | hobbsc | nearly time to ht the sack |
| 04:33.55 | hobbsc | i think a while back he said it was nearly 0600 where he was |
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| 04:34.26 | RatOmeter | yah, that'd put him in the UK or further |
| 04:34.31 | hobbsc | .be |
| 04:34.44 | hobbsc | belgium, i think |
| 04:34.59 | hobbsc | n=KTL@kotnet-149.kulnet.kuleuven.be |
| 04:35.23 | hobbsc | i think belgium is UTC +1 |
| 04:35.28 | RatOmeter | I think that qualifies as "further" ;) |
| 04:35.41 | hobbsc | i'm in CST, so he's seven hours ahead of me |
| 04:35.54 | hobbsc | which is 0630hrs |
| 04:35.59 | hobbsc | 0633 if my clock is correct |
| 04:36.01 | RatOmeter | danged DST screws me up. I'm CST or whatever it is now |
| 04:36.12 | hobbsc | heh |
| 04:36.15 | hobbsc | maybe it's CDT |
| 04:36.18 | gl2tosl2 | daylight time I think |
| 04:36.19 | hobbsc | either way |
| 04:36.20 | gl2tosl2 | CDT |
| 04:36.23 | hobbsc | yeah |
| 04:36.24 | RatOmeter | DDT? |
| 04:36.27 | hobbsc | it's nearly 0700 there |
| 04:36.37 | gl2tosl2 | D for what? |
| 04:36.38 | hobbsc | RatOmeter: like deet? bug spray is bad for you :) |
| 04:38.01 | RatOmeter | well, I meant the stuff that was *really* bad, banned in the 60's or something. DEET is not-so-good-hasn't-been-banned-yet stuff |
| 04:38.40 | hobbsc | hehe |
| 04:38.59 | RatOmeter | arg, I'm wasting your bandwidth and my Zzzzzz time. Thanks for the help earlier, hobbsc |
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| 05:13.46 | Legoguy | what must one do to make “Anisotropic” available.. i’ve got a card that can surely handle it, and the nvidia-settings applet can apply it up to 16x, but i don’t want to force that upon all 3d apps… |
| 05:15.09 | blast007 | you need GLEW |
| 05:23.00 | JeffM2FishBone | what OS? |
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| 06:05.38 | Legoguy | [ info ] Computer Name: legobase | Kernel Version: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r2 |
| 06:06.01 | JeffM2FishBone | nv driver or nvidia? |
| 06:06.28 | Legoguy | also, is there any way to conclusively identify someone cheating with a bounding box hack? nvidia, otherwise nvidia-settings would be useless.. |
| 06:06.45 | JeffM2FishBone | then you need glew |
| 06:06.55 | JeffM2FishBone | no, if we could get them 100% of the time, we'd have the server do it |
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| 06:12.44 | Legoguy | what kind of reputation does october rust have o_O myself and several others think he’s got the bounding cheat |
| 06:13.25 | JeffM2FishBone | we dont really discuss players here |
| 06:15.26 | Legoguy | i understand that |
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| 12:41.58 | donny_baker | found a "slight" possible issue with the SVN repository |
| 12:42.38 | donny_baker | there are both a "V1_10_6" and "v1_10_6" directory in the tags folder |
| 12:43.56 | donny_baker | you can't check out both branches if you are on an OS where the filenames are not case sensitive (Windows) |
| 12:44.35 | donny_baker | s/branchs/tags/ |
| 12:45.38 | ruskie | and is there a reason you'd need both? |
| 12:45.53 | donny_baker | no, there is no reason, just throws an error |
| 12:46.03 | ruskie | so sucky OS... |
| 12:46.51 | ruskie | can't do much about that now can you... |
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| 12:47.37 | donny_baker | i agree, but the question is which is correct if I did want to look at 1_0_6 |
| 12:47.37 | donny_baker | which I don't |
| 12:47.37 | ruskie | or you could switch to a non-crap os... |
| 12:47.59 | donny_baker | well we would if the vendors who write our software for billing and records management would support other OSs |
| 12:48.20 | blast007 | ruskie :P |
| 12:49.05 | ruskie | erm... so you're telling me you're doing this at work? |
| 12:49.17 | blast007 | ruskie: and I actually want to play games, so I use this OS :) |
| 12:49.17 | donny_baker | uhm, I do this everywhere |
| 12:50.03 | ruskie | blast007, the only game I basicaly play on a regular bassis is... yup... bzflag |
| 12:51.24 | blast007 | I don't ;) |
| 12:52.04 | ruskie | all the commercial products rarely make me interested at all |
| 12:55.07 | RatOmeter | regardless of your preference of OS and their shortcomings, having both V1_10_6 and v1_10_6 looks like it had its beginnings as user error |
| 12:59.11 | ruskie | so it should be unified then... or one needs removal in favour of the other.. |
| 13:02.47 | ts | removal from svn? eww |
| 13:02.56 | ts | You can't remove |
| 13:04.44 | *** part/#bzflag LongDon (n=LongDon@dialin-82225.ewetel.net) |
| 13:10.11 | RatOmeter | ts: removal appears to be possible, but maybe not easy/pretty |
| 13:10.29 | RatOmeter | not that I'm advocating removal. |
| 13:10.32 | ts | You can destroy the whole repositiory when you try.. |
| 13:11.09 | RatOmeter | heh |
| 13:12.29 | ts | purple_cow: Have you seen the issue? |
| 13:12.34 | RatOmeter | "The great thing about the human-readability aspect of the dump format is that, if you aren't careless about it, you can manually inspect and modify it. Of course, the downside is that if you have two years' worth of repository activity encapsulated in what is likely to be a very large dump file, it could take you a long, long time to manually inspect and modify it." |
| 13:14.30 | RatOmeter | I'm checking out the trunk right now, haven't that part yet |
| 13:15.15 | RatOmeter | *haven't encountered |
| 13:23.42 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03chestal * r13934 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: typo |
| 13:23.55 | Chestal | yay :-) |
| 13:25.52 | RatOmeter | I have no real voice in the matter, but I've heard that ignorance is bliss ;) |
| 13:27.20 | Chestal | what about the .cvsignore files? |
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| 13:39.15 | RatOmeter | svn:ignore seems to be similar |
| 13:43.19 | RatOmeter | I've gotten the v1_10_6 stuff, waiting to see what the Win32 command line client does when it hits V1_10_6... I'll let you know next week when I get it all ;) |
| 13:44.25 | donny_baker | it appears that it can be "Deleted" so that it no longer apears in the head |
| 13:44.57 | donny_baker | the dirctories are versioned too, so if you delete the offending directory with "svn delete" |
| 13:45.44 | donny_baker | it "disappears", it is still in the repository, as revision, but it is no longer in the HEAD |
| 13:45.54 | donny_baker | to bother people |
| 13:46.47 | donny_baker | it would need to be "tested" but it looks possible |
| 13:47.07 | donny_baker | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch04s07.html |
| 13:47.12 | ts | Hmm..get no authorisation to check it |
| 13:47.12 | ts | check in* |
| 13:48.46 | ts | Chestal: How did you check your stuff in? |
| 13:49.16 | Chestal | svn --username=chestal, then entering my sf password when it asked for it |
| 13:50.33 | Chestal | only needed a couple tries until I got the password right, been using ssh key authentication before |
| 13:52.22 | ts | doesn't like me |
| 13:52.39 | ts | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/415022 |
| 13:52.49 | ts | Chestal: I'm not even asked for a password |
| 13:54.25 | RatOmeter | gack. windows native svn command line client barfed when it hit V1_10_6. Dumped out with an error |
| 13:54.29 | RatOmeter | "svn: Failed to add directory 'bzflag\tags\V1_10_6': object of the same name already exists" |
| 13:54.47 | RatOmeter | kinda what I expected, though |
| 14:00.38 | ts | Hrm, no matter what I do, it doesn't let me |
| 14:01.48 | Chestal | hmm, I did svn commit --username=chestal -m 'typo' src/bzflag/playing.cxx and it asked |
| 14:02.15 | Chestal | I think it remembers the login information, but I would assume that it would query you again if it fails |
| 14:02.38 | Chestal | I have only used svn for simple checkouts before |
| 14:03.42 | ts | same result with username after commit |
| 14:04.00 | ts | doesn't ask me, just tells it fails |
| 14:04.50 | RatOmeter | ts: you think this "migration" was just a ruse to exclude you? |
| 14:04.53 | RatOmeter | ;) |
| 14:06.36 | ts | going to the svn channel.. |
| 14:09.54 | ts | no response so far, only people leaving the boat |
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| 14:36.39 | ts | Chestal: Does the admin summary page of BZFlag says anything about svn for you? |
| 14:37.56 | ts | nm, saw it is labelled subversion instead of svn |
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| 15:03.40 | ts | JeffM2501: Can you please check whether I have SVN commit access? |
| 15:04.39 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 15:04.49 | ts | bleh |
| 15:05.21 | ts | Last try will be the orig binaries.. |
| 15:09.09 | JeffM2501 | you are unable to commit? |
| 15:11.23 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03t-s * r13935 10/trunk/bzflag/misc/bzfquery.php: Update script to be able to get information from servers using the newest (0047) protocol. |
| 15:11.31 | donny_baker | yay |
| 15:11.35 | RatOmeter | ahha! |
| 15:12.29 | ts | yeah, my local binary is busted |
| 15:12.54 | ts | now I have plain text passwords, too :x |
| 15:13.24 | JeffM2501 | your svn client is? |
| 15:13.37 | ts | svn |
| 15:13.45 | ts | (bad joke) |
| 15:13.50 | JeffM2501 | how do you 'break" a binary? |
| 15:13.56 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 15:14.19 | ts | I have 1.4 on my working machine..tried their 1.3 and it works |
| 15:14.29 | ts | Have been talking to the svn guys |
| 15:14.38 | JeffM2501 | all I did was right click |
| 15:14.58 | ts | pffft right click |
| 15:15.17 | JeffM2501 | even gave me a little repository browser :) |
| 15:15.23 | JeffM2501 | for all the branches |
| 15:15.50 | ts | all can be done from within the command line client, too as far as I know |
| 15:15.57 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it can |
| 15:16.01 | RatOmeter | JeffM2501, BTW there is a Win32 native command line SVN client. works well so far for me |
| 15:16.09 | JeffM2501 | yes there is |
| 15:16.42 | RatOmeter | hehe |
| 15:17.48 | ts | I'm using a system with a much beter UI .. and I still prefer terminal for things that should always work |
| 15:18.06 | JeffM2501 | whatever floats your boat |
| 15:19.08 | ts | JeffM2501: SVN repository has some ... ummm .. problem |
| 15:19.14 | JeffM2501 | and that is? |
| 15:19.31 | ts | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/tags/ |
| 15:19.31 | donny_baker | 04[08:41] donny_baker: 01found a "slight" possible issue with the SVN repository |
| 15:19.32 | donny_baker | 04[08:42] donny_baker: 01there are both a "V1_10_6" and "v1_10_6" directory in the tags folder |
| 15:19.32 | donny_baker | 04[08:43] donny_baker: 01you can't check out both branches if you are on an OS where the filenames are not case sensitive (Windows) |
| 15:19.56 | ts | yep, so far for the gui tools ;) |
| 15:20.06 | JeffM2501 | you can type in another foldername |
| 15:20.15 | ts | both have their problems |
| 15:20.23 | JeffM2501 | it's minor |
| 15:20.30 | JeffM2501 | but that is why we standardised |
| 15:20.35 | JeffM2501 | CVS would have that same problem |
| 15:20.59 | JeffM2501 | that was more of just a mistake on our part. |
| 15:21.04 | ts | V1_10_6 contains only win32 |
| 15:21.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah I screwed up |
| 15:21.16 | ts | didn't say svn was it |
| 15:21.17 | JeffM2501 | back in the day |
| 15:21.31 | JeffM2501 | you said it was the SVN repository |
| 15:21.36 | JeffM2501 | but it maters not |
| 15:21.43 | JeffM2501 | who realy cares about that old version? |
| 15:21.52 | JeffM2501 | we have history, we can get to it if we have to |
| 15:22.08 | ts | depends on whether we want to ignore that thing |
| 15:22.15 | JeffM2501 | and it'd only screw up somone on windows who wants to get all the tags |
| 15:22.18 | JeffM2501 | and that is just lame |
| 15:22.28 | JeffM2501 | we can ignore it untill it becomes a real problems. |
| 15:22.40 | JeffM2501 | as there is no harm in ignoring it |
| 15:22.45 | JeffM2501 | and no real benifit in fixing it |
| 15:22.51 | donny_baker | JeffM2501: I agree, but it will happen and they will constantly come here asking the question |
| 15:23.10 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker,you think people will constantly keep geting ALL the tags? |
| 15:23.27 | donny_baker | with the SVN, I think it will happen more often |
| 15:23.28 | JeffM2501 | most of them are going to get the 2.0.x branch or trunk |
| 15:23.42 | donny_baker | but that is just my opinion |
| 15:23.49 | JeffM2501 | how more often? |
| 15:24.00 | JeffM2501 | if they just get the root? |
| 15:24.14 | donny_baker | the default is to pull all, unless they refine their path better |
| 15:24.29 | JeffM2501 | does it error? or just wipe out one of em? |
| 15:24.41 | donny_baker | error, and stop |
| 15:24.56 | JeffM2501 | then they should know that they shoudn't get all the tags ;) |
| 15:25.00 | donny_baker | hehe |
| 15:25.07 | JeffM2501 | I mean how long does that take? |
| 15:25.16 | donny_baker | 3-4 hours :P |
| 15:25.25 | JeffM2501 | at that point they MAY know something is up |
| 15:26.02 | RatOmeter | only took me about 30 min ;) |
| 15:26.03 | JeffM2501 | so like I say, that will be a minimum |
| 15:26.11 | JeffM2501 | I'll ask purple_cow about it |
| 15:26.17 | JeffM2501 | but I'd not say it's something to freak over. |
| 15:26.31 | donny_baker | no, i agree, just pointing out the issue |
| 15:26.38 | RatOmeter | I tweaked the Wiki entry on SVN a little to indicate that it's not such a hot idea to checkout the whole thing |
| 15:26.41 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 15:26.46 | JeffM2501 | RatOmeter, cool |
| 15:26.58 | JeffM2501 | I had some mention of it, but it's best to tell them what to get |
| 15:27.11 | donny_baker | i tweaked it more to indicate it requires 1.5 GB of disk :) |
| 15:27.24 | RatOmeter | aye, I was only off by about 0.5 G ;) |
| 15:27.33 | JeffM2501 | the page does show the 2 most common needs right? |
| 15:27.37 | JeffM2501 | head bzflag |
| 15:27.47 | JeffM2501 | and 2_0Branch bzflag |
| 15:28.17 | donny_baker | yes, they are both there |
| 15:28.20 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 15:28.34 | JeffM2501 | maybe they should be repeated in a section at the top for people who can't read |
| 15:29.12 | RatOmeter | I was thinking the same thing |
| 15:32.40 | ts | arrrgg... |
| 15:34.08 | JeffM2501 | are the command line tools that hard to use? |
| 15:34.18 | ts | No |
| 15:34.32 | JeffM2501 | then how do they keep geting you "screwed up"? |
| 15:34.42 | JeffM2501 | I thought it was just sv co URL bam |
| 15:34.42 | ts | I just almost checked in what was not supposed to check in |
| 15:35.06 | ts | and then I did abort in the middle.. |
| 15:35.18 | ts | not good |
| 15:35.28 | ts | It's just the stupid /dev/me |
| 15:36.02 | donny_baker | shouldn't mess up anything, svn is transactional, all goes or it all fails... no partial commits |
| 15:37.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 15:37.24 | JeffM2501 | even if on a co, you stop it'll keep going from where it stoped |
| 15:38.32 | RatOmeter | wiki re-tweaked for the IQ impaired |
| 15:38.38 | ts | atomic changes? |
| 15:40.02 | donny_baker | from wikipedia: Commits are truly atomic operations. Interrupted commit operations do not cause repository inconsistency or corruption. |
| 15:40.28 | donny_baker | also fron the SVN book, but easier to access on Wikipedia ;) |
| 15:41.23 | JeffM2501 | I added the 2.0.x branch URL to that top section too |
| 15:41.28 | JeffM2501 | cus that will be common as well |
| 15:41.35 | RatOmeter | Aye |
| 15:42.08 | JeffM2501 | that thing is STILL geting all the tags :) |
| 15:42.33 | JeffM2501 | good thing it gets the trunk and braches first, so even after it errors, you still have valid code |
| 15:43.48 | RatOmeter | I'm not sure it did for me, after it barfed I got the trunk, and it took some getting |
| 15:50.37 | RatOmeter | in fact, the checkout order for me seemed pretty random. Each folder all at once, but in no particular order of folders |
| 15:51.17 | RatOmeter | maybe that's a difference in the clients |
| 15:52.38 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03t-s * r13936 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/AUTHORS: Fix my entry in the AUTHOR file (aka svn test) |
| 15:54.28 | ts | hrm, the binaries I build of svn work never :x |
| 15:57.02 | gsnedders | we moved to SVN? |
| 15:57.14 | ts | yep |
| 15:57.15 | gsnedders | mmm… |
| 15:57.20 | gsnedders | how long ago? |
| 15:57.36 | JeffM2501 | yesteday |
| 15:57.42 | ts | 2 or 1 day ago, depending on timezone |
| 15:58.16 | JeffM2501 | well it was finished about this time yesterday, so still 24 hours ago ;) |
| 15:58.38 | ts | I talked about when it started ;) |
| 15:59.41 | ts | gsnedders: It is easy... |
| 15:59.48 | gsnedders | too many :P |
| 15:59.54 | ts | cvs diff -u >../patch.diff |
| 16:00.04 | ts | patch -p0 < ../patch.diff |
| 16:00.09 | ts | there ya go |
| 16:00.25 | gsnedders | I have them all in seperate files, and I have no idea how many will even apply at all |
| 16:00.51 | JeffM2501 | get a svn tree |
| 16:01.00 | JeffM2501 | merge your cvs tree into the svn tree |
| 16:01.02 | JeffM2501 | then do a merge |
| 16:01.08 | JeffM2501 | well update your cvs tree first |
| 16:01.14 | ts | yep |
| 16:01.16 | JeffM2501 | so it's close as can be to current |
| 16:01.26 | gsnedders | that may break all the patches anyway, though :P |
| 16:01.39 | ts | then why do you want to upgrade? |
| 16:01.51 | ts | if your version is fine, then stick to it |
| 16:01.52 | RatOmeter | sounds like you were going to be facing this anyway |
| 16:01.57 | JeffM2501 | cvs is still available read only. |
| 16:02.05 | gsnedders | RatOmeter: yes, I know I was going to :P |
| 16:02.22 | gsnedders | ts: from the client side, yes, it is. |
| 16:02.39 | gsnedders | ts: but bzfs won't compile in this old copy |
| 16:03.24 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/wiki/index.php/Getting_Help || Paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag || BZFlag is participating in GSoC: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code || CVS is dead, We use SVN now http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN |
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| 16:05.42 | ts | JeffM2501: I updated the bzfquery.php script..may it help with finding the no ricos in replay bug |
| 16:05.55 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 16:05.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 16:06.03 | JeffM2501 | ahh he's here |
| 16:06.15 | ts | still, I'm really clueless about it.. |
| 16:06.25 | JeffM2501 | that's what debugers are for :) |
| 16:07.19 | ts | I end up only seeing the unimportant parts |
| 16:10.00 | JeffM2501 | step step step :) |
| 16:11.29 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r13937 10/trunk/bzflag/.cvsignore: rm .cvsignore. svn:ignore properties take care of this, and are already set properly. |
| 16:15.13 | ts | The only thing I see is that the game type and the game options seem to be set appropriately |
| 16:16.48 | JeffM2501 | that's cus you don't step deep enough |
| 16:18.08 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r13938 10/trunk/web/document.php: don't need CVS on the main page when SVN is the new hottness. |
| 16:19.59 | ts | yeah |
| 16:20.31 | ts | now the script I updated says the game options and game type are never changed |
| 16:21.11 | ts | Which does not sound likely because then the ricos would be zapped |
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| 16:23.58 | JeffM2501 | ok, main page updated, and a new post posted :) |
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| 16:39.29 | Erroneous | heh; warning: "_" redefined |
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| 17:18.46 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r13939 10/tags/V1_10_6/: remove V1_10_6 |
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| 17:35.57 | [darek] | hi |
| 17:39.45 | ts | Howdy [darek] |
| 17:40.06 | [darek] | hi ts :) |
| 17:42.14 | tupone_laptop | hi [darek] |
| 17:42.35 | [darek] | hi tupone_laptop :) |
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| 17:43.57 | [darek] | tupone_laptop: almost finished my game, since next week I can back to BZ/CS |
| 17:45.43 | tupone_laptop | great |
| 17:50.24 | Murmuria | brlcad: hi!, I think this is a better place to ask... |
| 17:50.38 | Murmuria | i am on Linux, my bzflag stalls aftre loading |
| 17:50.50 | Murmuria | does anyone know what I must do? |
| 17:50.55 | Murmuria | to fix it? |
| 17:53.10 | donny_baker | stalls? where does it stall? |
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| 18:02.01 | Murmuria | donny_baker: as soon as it starts, on the menu... |
| 18:02.18 | Murmuria | nothing works thereafter... |
| 18:02.45 | Murmuria | donny_baker: not even kill <processid> |
| 18:04.45 | RatOmeter | the inability to constrain the mouse to one display on Win32 is driving me nuts ;) |
| 18:05.14 | RatOmeter | I do have a fresh set of source, can someone point me to the right file(s) for that code? |
| 18:06.06 | blast007 | Murmuria: strange |
| 18:06.42 | blast007 | what video card/drive, game version, etc? |
| 18:06.45 | blast007 | driver* |
| 18:07.09 | ts | TimRiker: Can you make the old wiki read only please? |
| 18:07.29 | ts | not all is yet copied over |
| 18:09.28 | Murmuria | blast007: BZFlag client 2.0.8.20070327 |
| 18:13.22 | Murmuria | blast007: and I am running on Mesa with direct rendering: yes |
| 18:14.49 | Murmuria | blast007: I played the game for a few days, |
| 18:14.50 | Murmuria | blast007: and the game loads, with the menu, just stalls after that |
| 18:16.15 | donny_baker | Murmuria: so you are saying it did work before today |
| 18:16.28 | Murmuria | donny_baker: yes |
| 18:17.29 | Murmuria | donny_baker: the question is, how do I debug now?! |
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| 18:20.59 | Murmuria | donny_baker: does bzflag have a debug more, or is there any error_log? |
| 18:21.19 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r13951 10/branches/v2_0_cs_branch/bzflag/ (81 files in 81 dirs): Ignoring derivated files |
| 18:22.02 | donny_baker | Murmuria: I know the server does, not sure on the client |
| 18:22.52 | tupone_laptop | Murmuria, add multiple -d to the command line until you are tired |
| 18:23.25 | tupone_laptop | but don't ask me to interpret the result :) |
| 18:23.47 | donny_baker | Murmuria: one thing to try would be to rename your config file (~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg) it will be recreated with default settings |
| 18:24.24 | Murmuria | /murmuria makes a note of that |
| 18:24.41 | Murmuria | oops, I was supposed to /me |
| 18:24.46 | donny_baker | :) |
| 18:26.19 | RatOmeter | no, for the client, it's -debug |
| 18:26.33 | RatOmeter | I think |
| 18:26.35 | blast007 | RatOmeter: I think either work |
| 18:27.13 | blast007 | I was using -d just the other day, but with the 2.0.9 code |
| 18:27.20 | RatOmeter | apparently not the multiple -ddd |
| 18:27.23 | blast007 | nope |
| 18:27.26 | blast007 | -d -d -d |
| 18:27.35 | RatOmeter | ah, silly me |
| 18:27.47 | blast007 | -ddd works on the server, just not the client |
| 18:28.33 | Murmuria | ok... |
| 18:28.46 | Murmuria | so it'll be bzflag -d?? |
| 18:28.56 | Murmuria | that should tell me what is wrong? |
| 18:29.03 | blast007 | probably not ;) |
| 18:29.14 | blast007 | that'll just be more verbose with the current actions |
| 18:29.37 | blast007 | hmm, and actually it might give you a good idea |
| 18:29.49 | blast007 | forgot it also outputs stuff to the terminal |
| 18:32.54 | RatOmeter | under Win32, it didn't gain me anything in the terminal. A few more messages in the GUI |
| 18:33.13 | blast007 | yeah, win32 is "different" for that |
| 18:33.18 | blast007 | you have to redirect to a file |
| 18:33.29 | blast007 | hmm, might also have to use -echo |
| 18:33.30 | blast007 | can't recall |
| 18:33.48 | RatOmeter | I'll try a coupla things |
| 18:33.52 | Murmuria | blast007: I think using -window might be helpful also!! that will stop it from fullscreen, right? |
| 18:33.58 | blast007 | yup |
| 18:34.27 | blast007 | you can also turn off the "Confine Mouse" option |
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| 18:37.20 | RatOmeter | OK, on winders, -echo dumps to a file "stdout.txt"... In Linux that would dump to the console (real stdout)? |
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| 18:42.15 | Murmuria | brlcad: do you have any other solution? |
| 18:45.50 | Murmuria | brlcad: all I have now is, use "bzflag -d -window", I would try it, but I am currently running "emerge sync" on my Gentoo... |
| 18:46.38 | brlcad | Murmuria: just starting to catch up with my logs, gimme a min :) |
| 18:50.06 | RatOmeter | debug output under Win32 is, uh, interesting. The -echo option sends the in-game scrolling messages to "stdout.txt", but debug goes to stdout. Since the game is detached from/has no console, you have to pipe it somewhere (a file) "bzflag -d -d -d -echo >debug.txt" |
| 18:51.05 | brlcad | Murmuria: I'd try to discern what has changed between the last time and worked and when it stopped working, of course |
| 18:51.40 | brlcad | but beyond that -- assuming it's not some issue being induced by a particular server map, it might be something wrong in either your config or map cache |
| 18:51.59 | brlcad | you should be able to safely delete both akin to starting fresh |
| 18:52.17 | brlcad | everything in the 2.0 directory (wherever that is stashed on windows) |
| 18:52.31 | Murmuria | brlcad: I even recompiled bzflag, but it didnot help |
| 18:52.47 | brlcad | if it's config or cache related, that won't matter |
| 18:52.52 | Murmuria | where is map cache? |
| 18:52.54 | tupone_laptop | more probably the network is |
| 18:53.19 | brlcad | could be the dns lookup bug |
| 18:53.33 | Murmuria | oh... |
| 18:53.34 | brlcad | but if it just started, i'd still start by deleting your config and cache files |
| 18:54.45 | donny_baker | Murmuria: you are on linux correct? files for cache are in ~/.bzf/cache IIRC |
| 18:55.24 | Murmuria | donny_baker: so I'll just mv the .bzf folder |
| 18:55.44 | donny_baker | that should work |
| 18:56.02 | brlcad | if that still fails, then it's probably something with your compile |
| 18:56.17 | brlcad | like linking against a buggy ares or buggy sdl |
| 18:57.07 | Murmuria | brlcad: thats why I recompiled, but everything else is working, to my knowledge... |
| 18:57.55 | tupone_laptop | use just curl to test the connectivity to the list server |
| 18:59.10 | TimRiker | Murmuria: try -mute |
| 19:03.26 | TimRiker | and -nolist |
| 19:04.07 | Epyon | brlcad, how's the application judging going? |
| 19:06.24 | brlcad | Epyon: coming along stil |
| 19:06.45 | brlcad | overall, we're probably 50%-75% done |
| 19:07.40 | Epyon | Any word on how many slot's you'll get? Or will that not be known until April 11? |
| 19:08.32 | ts | TimRiker: Will you do a svn.bzflag.org redirect? |
| 19:08.40 | ts | like cvs.bzflag.org does |
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| 19:12.07 | brlcad | Epyon: we should find out around the 5th |
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| 19:17.38 | Murmuria | brlcad, donny_baker, blast007, thanks. Deleting ~/.bzf/ worked! |
| 19:17.45 | Murmuria | :) |
| 19:17.47 | donny_baker | your welcome |
| 19:18.17 | Murmuria | good night to all |
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| 19:49.29 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r13952 10/branches/v2_0_cs_branch/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Adding teleporter. Should change material to look transparent |
| 19:49.36 | tupone_laptop | [darek], you know we went to svn? |
| 19:56.07 | [darek] | svn |
| 19:56.09 | [darek] | nice! |
| 19:56.11 | [darek] | at least |
| 19:56.48 | tupone_laptop | [darek], when you have time ... see the comment to my commit :) |
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| 19:57.51 | [darek] | tupone_laptop: everything after weekend, I'm releasing my just finished project |
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| 19:58.03 | tupone_laptop | no problem |
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| 20:27.08 | TimRiker | ts: sure. |
| 20:31.03 | ts | TimRiker: Does ibot use the bzfquery.pl script? |
| 20:32.06 | TimRiker | ts: done. does not work as well as the ssl cert is for *.svn.sourceforge.net so you get prompted. I think you can skip that later. |
| 20:32.20 | TimRiker | ts: no. similar perl script though. |
| 20:33.06 | ts | I get a warning about their ssl cert anyway.. |
| 20:33.14 | TimRiker | did someone update CIA or did it just work with the change? |
| 20:33.30 | ts | TimRiker: I think purple_cow did take care of it |
| 20:33.44 | purple_cow | I turned on the hook script |
| 20:33.48 | ts | There is a svn script |
| 20:33.53 | ts | right |
| 20:34.01 | purple_cow | CIA was already configured to route anything labeled "BZFlag" to this channel |
| 20:34.10 | TimRiker | purple_cow: but no change on the CIA server side was required, yes? |
| 20:34.34 | TimRiker | nice |
| 20:34.51 | ts | TimRiker: What bzfquery script does it use? Even if it is perl (yuck) I might able to change it |
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| 20:41.35 | TimRiker | it is perl, yes. it's in the blootbot tree. |
| 20:43.01 | TimRiker | http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/blootbot/trunk/blootbot/src/Modules/BZFlag.pl?view=markup |
| 20:43.04 | ts | I looked but didn't see it |
| 20:43.51 | ts | ah there |
| 20:44.51 | ts | ok, I'll tinker with it tomorrow |
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| 20:48.32 | tupone_laptop | http://my.bzflag.org/w/CrystalSpace_client |
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| 20:56.43 | TimRiker | "It will be only available via CVS" |
| 20:56.57 | tupone_laptop | eek |
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| 21:03.20 | TheRedBaron | ~seen menotume |
| 21:03.58 | ibot | menotume <n=menotume@pdpc/supporter/active/menotume> was last seen on IRC in channel #kierra, 6h 31m 10s ago, saying: 'fine. TKierra :P'. |
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| 21:17.14 | tupone_laptop | http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/DEVINFO in the wiki has to be fixed |
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| 22:10.32 | AAA_awright | What is the protocol version for BZFlag 2.1? |
| 22:11.11 | AAA_awright | the 2.0 branch is "0026"... |
| 22:12.08 | TD-Linux | it was in the 50's I think last time I checked. It changes a lot. |
| 22:12.33 | AAA_awright | if once per revision is "a lot" |
| 22:13.04 | TD-Linux | 13942? |
| 22:13.23 | AAA_awright | ... It has /only/ changed what, two times in the last 5 years? |
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| 22:29.11 | jwir3 | later all |
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| 22:49.16 | Dessy | hi all |
| 22:49.33 | Dessy | is bzflag dolby surround supported? |
| 22:49.36 | Bz_Win | ~lart Dessy |
| 22:49.36 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops Dessy in half |
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| 23:41.34 | KTL | a very good surround would actually help:) stealths make a lot of noise :) |
| 23:42.04 | spldart | 5.1 better than SR |
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