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| 00:34.38 | Flash | is the list server down |
| 00:34.43 | blast007 | ~bzflist |
| 00:34.50 | blast007 | nope |
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| 02:46.15 | BWD | some random guy emailed me saying he's stepping down as admin from some bzflag server. must be a lonely guy |
| 02:47.05 | a_meteorite | who? |
| 02:50.08 | BWD | This is Garret Panera, better known as RPG, and I would like to thank each of you individually for providing me with a great time playing BZFlag. I must thank you all for letting me boss you around and letting me be an asshole to you without any complaints. I was a major part in the Planet MoFo regime and had a great time being an asshole. |
| 02:50.20 | BWD | Also, ask me about how to get 441 of BZFlags greatest players emails in one CSV. |
| 02:50.42 | BWD | i never even played on that server |
| 02:52.35 | blast007 | BWD: yeah, someone just sent a spoofed email |
| 02:53.22 | blast007 | they didn't do a very good job either, since they spelled his name wrong |
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| 02:54.04 | BWD | ah. i didn't even bother looking at the headers |
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| 03:19.52 | Datalore | ~bzfquery 67.161.13.183:5154 |
| 03:20.01 | Datalore | aww |
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| 04:53.10 | A-Delusion | I am sending out another yelp for help, trying to find any .bzw trepan ever made, the maps made just around the time 2.0.6 was released are the ones I want the most. If you happen to have any of these maps, Please let me know. |
| 04:53.50 | brlcad | A-Delusion: why don't you ask trepan? |
| 04:53.57 | A-Delusion | did |
| 04:54.02 | brlcad | and? |
| 04:55.14 | A-Delusion | I begged for anything, "anything at all", he basicly said, you're on your own, the bzw manpage has everything you need to make drawinfos |
| 04:55.20 | SportChick | hi guys :) |
| 04:55.27 | brlcad | hi gals :) |
| 04:56.15 | brlcad | A-Delusion: well that probably is a truthful statement from him .. what's the issue? |
| 04:56.32 | brlcad | kinda frustrating to write the manpage if folks aren't going to use it |
| 04:57.20 | brlcad | if it has problems, or things aren't explained well, they should be fixed/improved too of course .. but there's some due diligence expected |
| 04:57.26 | A-Delusion | I'm just piecing together clues, trying to make drawinfo work, the only map I have using drawinfos, the objects have 5000 vertices |
| 04:57.42 | A-Delusion | I was hoping for something simpler |
| 04:58.15 | brlcad | you're sidestepping the issue that I think trepan was trying to get you to see perhaps.. |
| 04:58.50 | brlcad | you want an example, he wanted you to read the docs (which include examples) |
| 04:59.14 | A-Delusion | maybe there's some doc that I'm missing? |
| 04:59.22 | brlcad | the bzw manpage |
| 04:59.52 | brlcad | it's not a tutorial.. it's documentation, you read it in full :) |
| 05:00.15 | brlcad | i'm saying, if it's deficient in documenting and explaining the format, that should be fixed |
| 05:00.38 | brlcad | it includes explanations and examples, if they are insufficient or incorrect, they should also of course |
| 05:00.43 | brlcad | have you read it? |
| 05:01.02 | A-Delusion | I think so. |
| 05:01.10 | brlcad | heh, you "think so"?? |
| 05:01.23 | brlcad | if you paid that much attention, it might explain the difficulty |
| 05:01.36 | brlcad | and his unwillingness to just give you his hard work on a platter to you :) |
| 05:01.55 | brlcad | just a guess, of course, trepan's a bit of an enigma |
| 05:02.13 | A-Delusion | I fully understand that last statement. |
| 05:03.10 | blast007 | the BZW manpage lists the elements of the drawInfo object |
| 05:03.36 | blast007 | not that I understand what they all mean though |
| 05:04.07 | blast007 | tris, polygons, and quads, oh my! |
| 05:06.57 | A-Delusion | I see all the parts, It's pasting them together into a whole, that I can't do, I've spent days on the problem |
| 05:09.17 | A-Delusion | It's frustrating because, until i have the "whole" i get nothing. I'm able to create a drawinfo, from scratch, that bzfs will load without errors, but when I oppen the client, nothing |
| 05:09.55 | A-Delusion | I could be SO CLOSE, but wouldnt know it. |
| 05:12.26 | brlcad | A-Delusion: you do realize that you can save the map from any server you join? |
| 05:13.53 | brlcad | there's more than a few examples up and running that do what you're looking for last I looked |
| 05:13.53 | A-Delusion | yes, I have one of trepans mas, that i did that with, there are several more that he referenced in forum posts, that I'd like to obtain |
| 05:13.53 | A-Delusion | err, trepans maps |
| 05:16.42 | A-Delusion | materials.bzw and color.bzw are the names of maps he referenced |
| 05:17.16 | A-Delusion | someone may have downloaded them from the forums and still has them. |
| 05:26.31 | A-Delusion | hmmmm.. lou's churchyard has drawinfos. |
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| 06:12.35 | bz62 | The server keeps booting me off - it says I need to turn on UDP. How do I do this? |
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| 06:15.01 | blast007 | bz62: there isn't a way to turn UDP off in the client, so withe tyour operating system, firewall, or your router are causing UDP connections to not work |
| 06:15.14 | blast007 | so either your* |
| 06:17.31 | bz62 | O.K. - I've got Windows firewall up. maybe that's the problem. Thanks! |
| 06:18.50 | blast007 | which version of Windows is this, btw? |
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| 07:13.01 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0_cs_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.h: event handler name should not be duplicated |
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| 09:15.34 | daniel_jackson | hey any one here? |
| 09:16.31 | daniel_jackson | I have question about using the -cache option with bzfs |
| 09:17.08 | daniel_jackson | 48 people in the room and no one present |
| 09:22.24 | brlcad | ~ask |
| 09:22.32 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. |
| 09:24.29 | daniel_jackson | thank you |
| 09:25.07 | daniel_jackson | I wanted to summarize prior to getting into the nitty gritty |
| 09:27.15 | daniel_jackson | well my problem is when I use -cacheout option, I restart the server telling it to point to the cache file, but the cache file only loads the default bzflag map |
| 09:27.51 | daniel_jackson | or rather only contains the default map |
| 09:28.43 | daniel_jackson | I'm using ftp |
| 09:29.38 | daniel_jackson | I've been searching google for answers, but no luck so far |
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| 09:30.26 | daniel_jackson | (01:27:15 AM) daniel_jackson: well my problem is when I use -cacheout option, I restart the server telling it to point to the cache file, but the cache file only loads the default bzflag map |
| 09:30.26 | daniel_jackson | (01:27:50 AM) daniel_jackson: or rather only contains the default map |
| 09:30.26 | daniel_jackson | (01:28:42 AM) daniel_jackson: I'm using ftp |
| 09:30.31 | daniel_jackson | I have question about using the -cache option with bzfs |
| 09:30.39 | daniel_jackson | iel_jackson: (01:27:15 AM) daniel_jackson: well my problem is when I use -cacheout option, I restart the server telling it to point to the cache file, but the cache file only loads the default bzflag map |
| 09:30.40 | daniel_jackson | (01:30:26 AM) daniel_jackson: (01:27:50 AM) daniel_jackson: or rather only contains the default map |
| 09:30.40 | daniel_jackson | (01:30:26 AM) daniel_jackson: (01:28:42 AM) daniel_jackson: I'm using ftp |
| 09:31.32 | brlcad | heh |
| 09:31.46 | brlcad | oh well |
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| 10:16.16 | daniel_jackson | hello everyone can assistance with a bzfs question? |
| 10:16.34 | daniel_jackson | ahh I can't type |
| 10:17.04 | daniel_jackson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:59.09 | ts | ~spell attribute |
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| 11:46.50 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlayerStateVerify.cxx: Add a logging only check for tanks driving backwards with OO flag inside buildings |
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| 14:22.09 | orchid | well: 04:31 @brlcad> oh well |
| 14:22.25 | orchid | oops |
| 14:22.53 | brlcad | tee hee |
| 14:23.05 | orchid | shush |
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| 14:33.51 | Manu | brlcad: dunno if you have seen this ;) http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_wouldhttp://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_would |
| 14:34.15 | Manu | a bit old but fun |
| 14:35.36 | orchid | Manu: it 404's |
| 14:36.01 | ts | http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_would is correct and it's funny :) |
| 14:36.14 | Manu | arg... double paste |
| 14:36.15 | ts | a bit too quick, though |
| 14:36.23 | orchid | heh |
| 14:44.35 | ts | Reminds me on the new "HD Photo" format by MS...where jp2 is already better than the new competitor |
| 15:36.09 | brlcad | Manu: yes, I've seen that :) |
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| 16:04.08 | orchid | ~punch brlcad |
| 16:04.10 | ibot | ACTION hits brlcad like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 16:04.41 | brlcad | woot, hot kissies |
| 16:05.10 | orchid | arf |
| 16:10.31 | SportChick | heh |
| 16:12.36 | orchid | ~hug SportChick |
| 16:12.38 | ibot | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs SportChick |
| 16:12.45 | SportChick | \o/ |
| 16:12.49 | SportChick | ~hug orcid |
| 16:12.51 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on orcid and suddenly hugs orcid tightly |
| 16:12.51 | SportChick | err |
| 16:12.53 | SportChick | ~hug orchid |
| 16:12.55 | ibot | ACTION jumps into orchid's lap and huggles and *hugs* orchid |
| 16:13.05 | SportChick | it's official, I can't type :( |
| 16:13.11 | orchid | lol |
| 16:16.42 | blast007 | SportChick: welocme to teh club |
| 16:16.56 | SportChick | blast007: hehe |
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| 16:19.35 | ts | I fear I'm also in teh club :/ |
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| 17:08.38 | SportChick | for anyone interested, nidhoggr is on ##essy |
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| 18:45.56 | brlcad | src/bzflag/Makefile.am: object `ClientAuthentication.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without |
| 18:46.00 | brlcad | src/bzflag/Makefile.am: object `LoginMenu.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without |
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| 19:31.44 | laserball2 | hi |
| 19:32.10 | blast007 | hi |
| 19:33.04 | CBG | omgz |
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| 19:39.43 | laserball2 | elp |
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| 19:41.56 | TheRedBaron | laserball2: help? with? |
| 19:42.05 | laserball2 | nvm |
| 19:44.25 | blast007 | :/ |
| 19:45.10 | blast007 | ooo..kkk.. |
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| 19:45.29 | JeffM2501 | strangest conversation.... ever. |
| 19:46.15 | SportChick | bleh |
| 19:46.18 | SportChick | ~lart brlcad |
| 19:46.23 | laserball2 | am i registered? |
| 19:46.28 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 19:46.37 | laserball2 | to this chat room? |
| 19:46.40 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:46.49 | laserball2 | i identifyied! |
| 19:46.51 | JeffM2501 | not unless you told nickserv |
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| 19:47.11 | JeffM2501 | if you've done the nickserv stuff then your good |
| 19:47.24 | blast007 | yeah, you're identified to nickserv, laserball2 |
| 19:47.28 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah your IDed |
| 19:47.29 | laserball2 | it says u have already indentifyed |
| 19:47.34 | ts | The registration is on the whole freenode servers, not only for this chatroom |
| 19:47.34 | JeffM2501 | then there ya go |
| 19:47.46 | JeffM2501 | freenode is much more then just bzflag |
| 19:48.58 | brlcad | or vice versa depending on your perspective |
| 19:49.27 | laserball2 | bye all |
| 19:49.34 | laserball2 | getting map for my server |
| 19:50.37 | CBG | freenode > bzflag, brlcad :P |
| 19:52.14 | brlcad | it's all just a matter of perspective and what you consider |
| 19:52.36 | brlcad | one could argue that freenode is just chat .. bzflag is much more than just chat |
| 19:52.37 | JeffM2501 | freenode isn't a real thing, so if your talking about mass, then brlcad > freenode |
| 19:55.54 | TheRedBaron | ~poke brl |
| 19:55.55 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind brl, pokes brl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:55.58 | TheRedBaron | ~poke brlcad |
| 19:55.59 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind brlcad, pokes brlcad repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:56.16 | blast007 | ~bzfrag TheRedBaron |
| 19:56.18 | ibot | ACTION destroys TheRedBaron with a guided missile |
| 19:56.47 | SportChick | ~smack TheRedBaron |
| 19:56.49 | ibot | ACTION smacks TheRedBaron upside the head. |
| 19:57.21 | SportChick | ~defend brlcad |
| 19:57.22 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of brlcad, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward brlcad so that brlcad may live on in peace and quiet |
| 19:57.22 | TheRedBaron | think Pillsborough doughboy |
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| 20:04.46 | CBG | we're having a fatness contest? sweet, something I can win ! |
| 20:08.18 | TheRedBaron | ~sit CBG |
| 20:08.19 | ibot | ACTION puts on 200lbs, sits on CBG and squishes him |
| 20:16.22 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: ping |
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| 21:03.35 | bz54 | hello all. |
| 21:03.49 | bz54 | does anyone know how to install maps for bz on os x? |
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| 22:02.57 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, sup? |
| 22:04.03 | L4m3r | pm via bzbb |
| 22:04.16 | L4m3r | since I had to bail |
| 22:04.40 | JeffM2501 | I didn't get anything from you |
| 22:04.51 | L4m3r | O RLY? |
| 22:04.56 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 22:04.57 | L4m3r | s |
| 22:05.17 | L4m3r | hold on then, let me find it |
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| 22:43.32 | Bluer | hello everyone. I'm not sure I understand the nature of how the development of bzflag is going, but I think a new release every few months is important, especially for a community-driven open-source project. This is merely for keeping interest in existing players. It doesn't have to be a great new feature, but only some cosmetic changes/bug fixes that non-leading developers can make (such as the new bullets in 2.1), this would renew interest an |
| 22:43.32 | Bluer | d keep the game fun. the very idea of someone working on the project itself is good enough, a new minor number (2.0.8.1) will do. Maybe the path or beliefs of the devs are different, but many people here and other bzflag related channels are here for the sake of the community, and not the game itself. I was told a new version is to come soon? this is surely great news :) |
| 22:45.11 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 22:45.19 | JeffM2501 | 2.2 is being worked on |
| 22:45.20 | JeffM2501 | it's just slow |
| 22:45.55 | JeffM2501 | the 2.0.9 branch dosn't have enough to warrant a new release |
| 22:47.07 | delusional_ | all that's happened in 2.0.9 is in bzfs, not the client, and most server owners can use cvs. |
| 22:47.17 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 22:47.20 | Bluer | that was unnecessarly long. All I meant was showing other non-technical users that something is happening is a good idea. Even a very minor change in the home page, or the MOTD in the client to tell there was a bug fixed and a new 2.0.8.1 is out is enough. |
| 22:47.28 | JeffM2501 | obserer info is the only thing in the client for 2.0.9 |
| 22:47.44 | JeffM2501 | sure, we'd like to release more offten |
| 22:47.51 | JeffM2501 | but we don't have a lot of dev interest or planing |
| 22:47.54 | TheRedBaron | IMHO, then it becomes frustrating and problematic to keep up with the new releases |
| 22:48.12 | JeffM2501 | so we kinda waste time testing and releasing often when it's just fluf |
| 22:48.19 | JeffM2501 | if we had a roadmap and a plan, then I'd agree with oyu |
| 22:48.27 | Thumper_ | and time is something we don't have enough of |
| 22:48.28 | Bluer | TheRedBaron, not every week.. but at least not allow three months to pass without a minor number |
| 22:48.31 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, well we could make the game help with upgrades :) |
| 22:48.47 | JeffM2501 | Bluer, we go usualy 6-8 months between relesaes |
| 22:48.48 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: automatic patch/downloads? |
| 22:49.00 | JeffM2501 | we are not the same as other OS projects, like say "firefox" |
| 22:49.07 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, or at least notification |
| 22:49.20 | TheRedBaron | make message of the day easier to update? |
| 22:49.29 | JeffM2501 | that would be part of it :) |
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| 22:55.12 | TD-Linux | maybe make an RSS-feed MOTD |
| 22:56.14 | JeffM2501 | the motd is an RSS feed |
| 22:56.17 | JeffM2501 | IIRC |
| 22:56.47 | CBG | Thumper_: a very wise man once sang "we have all the time in the world" |
| 22:57.27 | Thumper_ | CBG: yes I used to think that :) |
| 22:57.31 | blast007 | JeffM2501: nope, just plain text that gets parsed |
| 22:57.37 | JeffM2501 | you sure? |
| 22:57.44 | JeffM2501 | thought somone upgraded it to rss |
| 22:57.44 | blast007 | looking at it right now |
| 22:57.50 | JeffM2501 | well it should be rss then :) |
| 22:57.54 | blast007 | http://www.bzflag.org/motd.php |
| 22:58.52 | blast007 | the server list could be RSS too |
| 23:03.50 | TD-Linux | would be neat to get BZFlag news in the client as well as an rss aggregator or whatever they are called |
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| 23:30.15 | CBG | K, bz seems to he kinda stuck in limbo. It crashed and It's not in my force quit window, but I still see the app and can't do anything about it |
| 23:31.15 | blast007 | CBG: kill it from the terminal? |
| 23:32.27 | CBG | I ran it from the terminal, force quit that (normally quitting it will quit a non-frozen bz client). |
| 23:32.41 | CBG | But alas, no luck there. You want me to try some "kill..."? |
| 23:36.35 | CBG | blast007: killed the PID, no luck |
| 23:37.32 | CBG | got it. thanks blast007 |
| 23:37.35 | CBG | ~blast007++ |
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