| 00:01.03 | JeffM2501 | so is it sad that I couldn't figure out how to properly scale an image to fit a window, so I just went and composited the image up myself in openGL? and then animated it? |
| 00:01.48 | Erroneous | a bit |
| 00:02.41 | JeffM2501 | it looks way cooler now tho :) |
| 00:02.55 | JeffM2501 | zip file in my dropbox |
| 00:04.57 | JeffM2501 | i made islands by using the cloud filter in photoshop and deleting sections based on color :) |
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| 00:31.55 | Tropican8 | Is there any way to hide the mouse cursor in bzflag? |
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| 00:40.07 | JeffM2501 | not with out a source code mod |
| 00:40.10 | JeffM2501 | with a source code mode |
| 00:40.13 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 00:40.31 | JeffM2501 | it's prety simple in SDL |
| 00:41.18 | Tropican8 | interesting. Is it a complicated mod? |
| 00:41.36 | JeffM2501 | naw, you'd just turn off the cursor whenever we switch dimming modes |
| 00:42.32 | Tropican8 | ok, thanks |
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| 00:58.25 | TD-Linux | Tropican8: if you do mod that, send me the patch file :) |
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| 01:19.20 | JeffM2501 | heck if oyu do that, sumit it, and we'll commit it |
| 01:20.17 | brlcad | yeah, add a menu option for it .. i'm sure others would like to have that |
| 01:20.44 | JeffM2501 | even if you don't add a menu item, submit it, I'll add the menu item :) |
| 01:21.19 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:23.58 | Tropican8 | one step at a time here, lol |
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| 02:01.18 | toulouse | hey guys, my sound will not work, how can i fix this |
| 02:01.35 | brlcad | toulouse: which OS? |
| 02:01.38 | toulouse | ubuntu |
| 02:02.07 | toulouse | i dont know if somethign is blocking the sound server or what |
| 02:02.11 | toulouse | it used to work just fine |
| 02:02.20 | brlcad | specify "hw:0" under the Options->Audio->Device menu |
| 02:02.42 | toulouse | ok, i'll try that in bzflag, lemme go do that, brb |
| 02:03.34 | toulouse | is that O or zero? |
| 02:04.07 | brlcad | ayche double you colon zero |
| 02:04.53 | toulouse | haha, i got it to work |
| 02:05.03 | toulouse | i think that my sound volume (in that menu) was off |
| 02:05.10 | toulouse | silly me, thank you though |
| 02:05.14 | toulouse | :) |
| 02:05.18 | toulouse | happy fragging |
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| 03:25.27 | supertanker | It is really amazing what you can do by reading the directions |
| 03:26.08 | inchworm | huh? directions are for wimps. Only read em if you want to know what is going on.... |
| 03:26.54 | supertanker | Well, consider it this way |
| 03:27.15 | supertanker | It's either spent 15 minutes reading manuals and experimenting, or 40 minutes of asking fruitless questions |
| 03:27.18 | supertanker | Take your pick |
| 03:27.59 | inchworm | supertanker: what are you getting at, I'm already on IRC, i have 40 minutes to burn :P |
| 03:28.02 | supertanker | By the way, this is my bit of experimenting: http://levelzone.net/map1.jpg Is there any way to make the lighting less blocky? |
| 03:28.16 | supertanker | inchworm, I don't, so I try and save time, and often fail |
| 03:29.59 | inchworm | i can't tell that the lighting looks any worse than anywhere else, but you would have to ask an actual dev or map maker on the possiblities of changing it |
| 03:30.12 | supertanker | I was hoping an actual map maker would be on here |
| 03:30.31 | inchworm | idle a bit and see if someone else answers |
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| 03:34.24 | supertanker | I don't think the Blender exporter scales maps for me :( |
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| 03:36.11 | supertanker | It's fun playing around a 1/40th scale version of the map I want, but that's not good for releases |
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| 03:38.26 | supertanker | I thought A_Delusion said he was on here all the time :( That's twice I've proved him wrong |
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| 03:48.01 | blast007 | supertanker: he is on here |
| 03:48.19 | supertanker | ahah! hiding from me |
| 03:49.23 | inchworm | blast007: can i get you opinion on something graphics related, but not related to bzflag in anyway? (for a UI class I'm taking) |
| 03:49.34 | blast007 | sure |
| 03:49.59 | inchworm | ok, user interface issues with holodeck style interaction |
| 03:50.05 | inchworm | any opinions? |
| 03:51.46 | blast007 | okay, that didn't help much ;) |
| 03:51.48 | inchworm | hehe, try "near perfect VR environment" |
| 03:51.54 | inchworm | = holodeck |
| 03:51.57 | blast007 | k |
| 03:52.02 | blast007 | that would be interesting |
| 03:52.33 | inchworm | are people too lasy to use such a thing? actaully get up and walk over to a rock say and poke it |
| 03:52.38 | inchworm | ? |
| 03:52.57 | blast007 | probably |
| 03:52.59 | Theme97 | ... WALK!? |
| 03:53.15 | blast007 | maybe a 3D mouse cursor instead ;) |
| 03:53.27 | blast007 | "click on the rock" |
| 03:53.53 | inchworm | i was thinking more of a put hand on rock where you want the rover to investigate next |
| 03:54.53 | inchworm | trying to get direct interaction with the interface so that there is minimum confusion...but to an extent if we get too direct do we lose something? (think mouse and explorere/konquorer file manipulation verses a shell) |
| 03:56.02 | inchworm | but anyway, you think such a thing is feasable if we had the "near perfect" VR part? |
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| 04:00.15 | inchworm | don't suppose anyone knows the positional accuarcy of "gps" on mars? |
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| 05:11.04 | delusional_ | woop wrong chan |
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| 09:34.37 | daniel_jackson | anyone on? |
| 09:38.53 | daniel_jackson | I need to know how to allow login to a server only if the player is of a certain group |
| 09:39.15 | daniel_jackson | its 1:39 am here so my brain is a little tired |
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| 09:53.19 | daniel_jackson | I need to know how to allow login to a server only if the player is of a certain group |
| 09:53.19 | daniel_jackson | (01:39:15 AM) daniel_jackson: its 1:39 am here so my brain is a little tired |
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| 15:02.35 | rickl | hey |
| 15:02.46 | rickl | In the first server on my list |
| 15:02.52 | rickl | there are 4 team |
| 15:03.05 | rickl | and the castles have these very high towers |
| 15:03.25 | rickl | how do I get in there |
| 15:05.39 | SportChick | rickl: this is a developer channel. try asking on the server you are on or maybe in #bzchat |
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| 16:17.28 | brlcad | hm.. i don't think of this as *just* a dev channel |
| 16:17.41 | brlcad | anything bzflag-related is on topic imho |
| 16:31.09 | SportChick | brlcad: :) I'll send everyone here then ;) |
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| 16:33.55 | Manu | SportChick: :) |
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| 18:50.11 | brlcad | SportChick: the difference is when that chatter veers from talking about bzflag to "talking about other stuff with my bzflag friends" .. that's in particular where #bzchat started |
| 18:50.27 | brlcad | not because they couldn't talk about games and maps and tactics in here if they wanted :) |
| 18:50.50 | brlcad | lcourse, that's just my take on it |
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| 20:28.11 | Skeeve | Hi there! Does anyone here know how to enable sound through a USB headset on a Mac? |
| 20:28.29 | ts | Skeeve: What do you mean? |
| 20:28.48 | Skeeve | I Mean: Just for BZflag. Any other sound should come through my standard speakers |
| 20:28.59 | Skeeve | There are Options for driver and device |
| 20:29.20 | ts | Ah, the options inside bzflag? |
| 20:29.27 | Skeeve | But I don't have the slightist idea what to enter |
| 20:29.34 | Skeeve | Yes Inside bzflag |
| 20:29.37 | ts | Hrm, neighter I.. |
| 20:34.22 | brlcad | Skeeve: hmm.. i don't think that's possible as things currently stand implemented |
| 20:35.07 | brlcad | unless there's some SDL option for that |
| 20:37.22 | JeffM2501 | you can't change the default sound device for the OS? |
| 20:37.37 | menotume | brlcad, i had a usb headset running here a while back (Fedora core) |
| 20:37.54 | menotume | plug it in, it showed up as a seperate sound device |
| 20:37.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:37.58 | brlcad | JeffM2501: you can, he's wanting to split things |
| 20:38.04 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 20:38.10 | menotume | oh oh |
| 20:38.27 | JeffM2501 | probably would not be too hard to enumerate them via SDL |
| 20:38.43 | brlcad | get bz to go to headphones, but everythingelse to system audio device |
| 20:38.48 | Tupone | I think SDL already enumerate |
| 20:38.54 | menotume | export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=??? ? |
| 20:38.56 | JeffM2501 | it does, I meant list them :) |
| 20:39.07 | JeffM2501 | and provide an interface |
| 20:39.21 | Tupone | menotume: that is what I use inside bzflag. The audio driver things |
| 20:39.32 | Tupone | and the device |
| 20:39.55 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to know what string it shows up as in SDL tho |
| 20:39.56 | JeffM2501 | as a device |
| 20:40.01 | menotume | hi tupalupa ! |
| 20:40.33 | Tupone | hola menotume |
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| 21:01.46 | JBdiGriz | Are there any German speakers here for a Friday question? |
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| 21:06.23 | Tupone | Chestal is |
| 21:08.28 | Skeeve | I can change the default but I want the mp3s to still come through the speakers |
| 21:09.18 | Skeeve | Ich spreche Deutsch |
| 21:13.28 | JBdiGriz | This web site is in German, and it looks like it is advocating demagnetizing your CD/DVD. http://padis-furutech.de/html/demag.html |
| 21:14.02 | Skeeve | Yes. That's right |
| 21:14.32 | JeffM2501 | demagnetizing... WTF |
| 21:14.32 | brlcad | http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpadis-furutech.de%2Fhtml%2Fdemag.html |
| 21:14.38 | Skeeve | Even you LP's can be demagnetised ;-) |
| 21:15.20 | Skeeve | static electricity shall also be removed |
| 21:15.26 | menotume | just be careful not to place a magnet near a CD :P |
| 21:15.30 | JeffM2501 | well for a record, I could see maybe |
| 21:15.38 | JeffM2501 | as the nedle is probably feric |
| 21:15.43 | JeffM2501 | and can be affected by a charge |
| 21:15.53 | JBdiGriz | It's the record itself, not the pickup mechanism. |
| 21:16.03 | JeffM2501 | but I didn't know plastics could hold one |
| 21:16.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:16.09 | JeffM2501 | I get that |
| 21:16.30 | JBdiGriz | That's why I was having a hard time believing anyone would advertise it. |
| 21:16.32 | JeffM2501 | if the record had a charge, MAYBE that could add vibrations to the needle as it spin |
| 21:16.42 | JeffM2501 | and that would add noise |
| 21:17.15 | JeffM2501 | if it did have a field, it would be a conductor moving thru a magnetic field, and that could generate a current |
| 21:17.20 | JeffM2501 | and be picked up as noise |
| 21:17.25 | JeffM2501 | that's the most I can reach tho :) |
| 21:17.32 | JeffM2501 | CDs are optical, how does THAT work :) |
| 21:17.52 | Skeeve | http://padis-furutech.de/html/downloadbereich.html |
| 21:18.00 | Skeeve | Some english texts |
| 21:18.27 | JBdiGriz | Could anyone explain what the "electrical tension of your records" is? |
| 21:18.33 | JeffM2501 | Skeeve, on your sound thing, the only thoughts are, 1) find out if SDL will take a "DEVICE" variable for your USB headset |
| 21:18.47 | JeffM2501 | or 2) mod the sources to use another device enumeration then the default. |
| 21:19.00 | JeffM2501 | SDL suports multiple devices, we just pick the default one. |
| 21:19.02 | Skeeve | If I only know what the device is |
| 21:19.26 | Skeeve | JBdiGriz Where did you read about the tension |
| 21:19.28 | JeffM2501 | you may need to write a little SDL app that scans all the devices and dumps the name SDL knows em by |
| 21:19.45 | Skeeve | Ah okay! |
| 21:19.46 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, the could be taken as a static type charge |
| 21:19.52 | JeffM2501 | electrical potential |
| 21:19.54 | JBdiGriz | It's the poor english translation that brlcad provided. |
| 21:20.07 | JeffM2501 | that'd be my guess |
| 21:20.07 | Skeeve | So maybe it would be a good idea to list them in the device input field so that one can select among them |
| 21:20.13 | JBdiGriz | I was wondering if I had to provide Valium for my DVDs now. |
| 21:20.30 | JeffM2501 | Skeeve, yes, that would be a good mod, and not to hard, have bz provide a menu with all the enumerated devices. |
| 21:20.34 | JeffM2501 | and store that in the config. |
| 21:20.59 | JeffM2501 | hmm. ok, so if the air in the DVD laser, get ionised, and it will It hink |
| 21:21.04 | JeffM2501 | then that could also be a conductor |
| 21:21.08 | Skeeve | I Know that I won't be able to do that tonight |
| 21:21.21 | Skeeve | So I'll see what you will have done by tomorrow ;-) |
| 21:21.28 | JeffM2501 | then that spins thru the field held by the plastic disk, and generates another charge in the DVD player..... |
| 21:21.44 | JeffM2501 | then you reverse the polarity |
| 21:21.52 | JeffM2501 | and induce the phase supressors |
| 21:21.59 | JeffM2501 | and it explodes |
| 21:22.51 | JeffM2501 | records is the only think that makes some small amount of sense to me |
| 21:22.52 | Skeeve | I think the germans from that page sell snake oil |
| 21:22.59 | JeffM2501 | if you are going for REALY high quality playback |
| 21:23.06 | JeffM2501 | and want to get rid of all external influences |
| 21:23.27 | JBdiGriz | Get a better needle/tonearm if you want really high quality playback. |
| 21:23.30 | JeffM2501 | I could see some sort of static charge, messing up or changing the needle vibrations. |
| 21:23.56 | JeffM2501 | I'm thinking this is for use with very senstive high end needle/tonearms |
| 21:24.26 | JeffM2501 | just like I've also heard of people floating the turntable in a pool of oil |
| 21:24.30 | JBdiGriz | You could use one of those laser needles and zero-gravity tonearms. That should do more for you than this nonsense. |
| 21:24.34 | JeffM2501 | to dampen external vibrtions |
| 21:25.52 | JeffM2501 | how sensitive are the laser ones? |
| 21:26.06 | JBdiGriz | I didn't see a price on the translation. Did you see one somewhere on the site? |
| 21:26.09 | Skeeve | good night! |
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| 21:26.59 | JBdiGriz | I have never checked out the laser needles. I read about them several years ago, but they were supposedly much better than actual needles, plus they didn't wear on the vinyl. |
| 21:27.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah I could see the wear issue |
| 21:27.50 | JeffM2501 | http://www.musicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=AFURDEMAG |
| 21:27.57 | JeffM2501 | 1800$ us |
| 21:28.03 | JeffM2501 | HAS to be high end |
| 21:28.34 | JeffM2501 | "We know what you’re thinking: How can you demagnetize an LP? It’s made of vinyl! Well… it’s the carbon used to color the vinyl that attracts a magnetic charge and after you place your record on the DeMag, you will not believe the difference! Yes…we are serious!" |
| 21:29.42 | JBdiGriz | I suppose the label in the CD also holds a magnetic charge. |
| 21:29.44 | JeffM2501 | what's next? put your high fi in a fariday cage? |
| 21:30.23 | JeffM2501 | The silk-screened label on an optical disc contains chemical compounds such as iron, nickel, and cobalt. These materials are all strongly magnetic and easily remagnetized. |
| 21:30.27 | JeffM2501 | that's from another site |
| 21:30.30 | JeffM2501 | http://forum.stereophile.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/323/password//sort/1/cat/all/page/1 |
| 21:30.33 | JBdiGriz | Just live your life in a Faraday cage. That way the government won't read your mind either. |
| 21:33.22 | JeffM2501 | how did you find that thing JBdiGriz ? |
| 21:34.07 | JBdiGriz | A friend sent me the URL, and was asking if anyone understood the German better than Google translator. It seemed like an appropriate Friday topic. ;-) |
| 21:34.48 | JeffM2501 | odd rarely used technology + semi-realisitic science == friday gold. |
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| 21:36.45 | JeffM2501 | wonder how many ipods were stuck in the demag to make them player better :) |
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| 21:54.25 | JBdiGriz | The flash ipods might have survived that. :D |
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| 22:01.48 | trustno1 | hello all |
| 22:03.01 | CBG | bye one. |
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| 22:18.42 | menotume | i don't trust that guy |
| 22:19.04 | SportChick | hehe |
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| 22:25.21 | TheRedBaron | menotume: you can trust me |
| 22:26.31 | A_Heart_Attack | *trusts TheRedBaron* |
| 22:33.17 | brlcad | sucker |
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| 23:13.03 | Erroneous | can't even trust them, some days |
| 23:13.10 | blast007 | JeffM2501: the voices in my head don't trust the voices in your head |
| 23:13.55 | JeffM2501 | the ones in your head said Doom was a bad movie |
| 23:31.09 | CBG | my voices have suddenly gone very quiet. |
| 23:31.13 | CBG | I like it like this. |
| 23:32.45 | tannerld | heh |
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