| 00:00.08 | brlcad | spldart: I thought it was a stout "go to your room!" ;) |
| 00:00.10 | *** join/#bzflag SpazzyMcGee (n=SpazzyMc@client-82-3-227-158.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 00:00.21 | spldart | I'm having to much fun :) |
| 00:00.51 | spldart | couple |
| 00:00.52 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, I'm only realy concerned bout info for the current versions for the map, if some features arn't avaialble in all old versions then mark it so in history |
| 00:01.50 | brlcad | spldart: I know quite a few guys a lot older than you that do pretty darn well .. ;) |
| 00:02.03 | spldart | :) |
| 00:02.16 | spldart | I'm on kid 5... cut me some slack hehe |
| 00:02.23 | brlcad | maybe slower to learn, but they retain the skills |
| 00:02.28 | brlcad | and usually win on tactic ;) |
| 00:02.32 | spldart | Now... what server should I shoot on now.. |
| 00:05.15 | JeffM2501 | does iBZEdit support meshpyrs? |
| 00:05.31 | SpazzyMcGee | i believe so |
| 00:05.42 | SpazzyMcGee | just a sec.... |
| 00:07.24 | SpazzyMcGee | the manual is unclear: http://ibzedit.com/man/?PHPSESSID=03dfa7acf219864c2e85ad9e89fbd0a4 |
| 00:07.59 | SpazzyMcGee | oh no it's not |
| 00:08.02 | JeffM2501 | ok thanks |
| 00:08.07 | JeffM2501 | then blender is the only one :) |
| 00:08.16 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah |
| 00:09.39 | SpazzyMcGee | The new BZFlagWiki malarkey is brilliant. |
| 00:09.56 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 00:16.18 | spldart | BZFlag Wiki!! Brilliant!!! Brilliant! |
| 00:21.14 | brlcad | lets .. put it in a bottle! |
| 00:21.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:23.09 | brad | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/RotatingMaps |
| 00:24.13 | brlcad | why is there a linux and macosx section separate? |
| 00:24.27 | JeffM2501 | brad, perhaps you should add a description of what it is too :) |
| 00:24.39 | JeffM2501 | that it is a script, and it works difrently on all the OSs |
| 00:24.52 | brad | ohh yeah |
| 00:25.03 | brad | brlcad: there were 2 seperate ones on the forum |
| 00:25.13 | brlcad | ah |
| 00:25.16 | brlcad | tis silly |
| 00:25.18 | brad | they are taken from http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4252 |
| 00:25.51 | brlcad | unnecessary bashisms in one, and lacking features in the other :) |
| 00:26.22 | brad | :) |
| 00:26.32 | brad | there's also an "apple script" on the forums |
| 00:26.37 | brad | not sure if you should add that or not |
| 00:28.34 | SpazzyMcGee | That was mine, from a long time ago. And it diddn't work too efficiently. |
| 00:28.57 | SpazzyMcGee | I don't think i ever actually posted it. |
| 00:29.12 | brad | ah |
| 00:29.20 | brad | well you did post it, it's there :) |
| 00:33.08 | SpazzyMcGee | my word, it's shocking. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4252&highlight=applescript |
| 00:42.41 | brlcad | apple script would be amusing |
| 00:43.00 | brlcad | rewrote it to match the batch script more closely |
| 00:43.16 | SpazzyMcGee | it has much comedy value. |
| 00:43.20 | brlcad | though i added error checking on whether bzfs exist abnormally |
| 00:43.27 | brlcad | batch script should do that too really |
| 00:43.54 | brlcad | don't remember the syntax to check a return value in dos though, and too lazy to look it up |
| 00:44.37 | SpazzyMcGee | heh: this is what ts said about the applescript rotation script "and keep in mind not to do it with "AppleScript" because it would be a lot harder to keep the binary running in a prison" |
| 00:45.28 | brlcad | gotta love translation |
| 00:46.30 | brlcad | (they're called jails in bsd lingo) |
| 00:47.52 | brlcad | and I don't think applescript would make it any harder or easier.. you can run users in a jail on os x but it takes some setting and is all on the bsd side of things |
| 00:53.26 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (n=gnurdux@c-69-251-252-148.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:55.59 | *** join/#bzflag CR_Wheelchair (n=john@ip68-105-103-234.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 01:08.01 | *** join/#bzflag EbErT (n=EbErT@adsl-219-3-105.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:19.23 | delusional_ | does -filtersimple affect -spamwarn? |
| 01:20.34 | brlcad | no |
| 01:20.49 | delusional_ | thankyou |
| 01:21.18 | brlcad | whether something that is caught by filtersimple reaches spamwarn and counts towards the warning count... don't remember |
| 01:21.48 | brlcad | er, never mind.. even if it matches, it'll reach |
| 01:22.20 | brlcad | hm.. now the regular filter could be problematic if it occurs before the spam check.. |
| 01:22.29 | brlcad | since it injects random characters |
| 01:23.39 | delusional_ | i was more concerned about exact or nearly-exactly identical messages being selectable as spam or not-spam |
| 01:25.45 | CR_Wheelchair | Have people started trying to advertise over bzflag, now? |
| 01:27.22 | brlcad | i just looked it up, it checks for spam before it filters |
| 01:27.35 | brlcad | so it should be fine regardless of the filter in use |
| 01:27.59 | brlcad | filtering is the last thing it does before sending the message out, spam and garbage checks happen earlier on |
| 01:28.47 | brlcad | CR_Wheelchair: just so you know, if you're the player in question -- there have been numerous complaints |
| 01:28.58 | brlcad | regarding cheating and server abuse |
| 01:29.59 | CR_Wheelchair | server abuse? |
| 01:30.00 | CR_Wheelchair | how so? |
| 01:30.16 | *** join/#bzflag a_temp_dist (n=a_temp_d@63-228-6-185.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 01:30.24 | brlcad | please don't cause trouble on the public servers, it just slows down development of the game as ultimately the devs have to step in |
| 01:30.50 | brlcad | not to mention just the general disruption it causes |
| 01:31.26 | *** join/#bzflag a_meteorite (n=a_meteor@unaffiliated/ameteorite/x-000000001) |
| 01:31.27 | CR_Wheelchair | I'm not sure what you're getting at with "server abuse" |
| 01:32.05 | brlcad | just using a cheat client on public servers alone is abuse for that matter, though I've heard complaints of other disruptions |
| 01:32.12 | spldart | Yep.. it's him |
| 01:32.28 | a_meteorite | does CRW not understand the complications of cheating? |
| 01:33.30 | CR_Wheelchair | No, I'm said to commit "server abuse". I'm trying to understand what that is. |
| 01:33.47 | CR_Wheelchair | I don't DDoS servers or anything. |
| 01:33.59 | brlcad | there are many forms of abuse |
| 01:34.04 | a_meteorite | You God mode cheat on servers that don't allow cheating. |
| 01:34.05 | a_meteorite | That is abuse. |
| 01:34.16 | CR_Wheelchair | anything else? |
| 01:34.30 | a_meteorite | That's all we need to define abuse. |
| 01:35.08 | CR_Wheelchair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.09 | brlcad | CR_Wheelchair: basically anything that causes a net negative disruption of gameplay |
| 01:35.33 | a_meteorite | Especially when you play on many popular servers that all disallow cheating and try to escape all bans. |
| 01:35.43 | brlcad | i could itemize, but the list of what you shouldn't do is rather extensive and should mostly be evident |
| 01:36.45 | brlcad | if you're getting banned from multiple servers, that is when it comes to our attention and becomes potential global banlist material |
| 01:36.45 | spldart | In other words a discussion of what defines disruption is most likely a redirect of the issue. |
| 01:36.50 | CR_Wheelchair | I see. I've never DDoS'd a server, launched any kind of virus, probed ports, or anything along those lines. |
| 01:37.00 | brlcad | which is a good thing |
| 01:37.05 | a_meteorite | That's not the only sort of abuse out there. |
| 01:37.10 | *** join/#bzflag view (n=view@c-69-249-178-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 01:37.39 | spldart | Hrm... Could a modified client be considered 'malware' ? |
| 01:37.47 | brlcad | you were actually placed on the global banlist a couple days ago, though there's a hardware issue delaying the delivery of the update to servers at the moment |
| 01:37.48 | a_meteorite | If it was viral, yeah... |
| 01:38.14 | spldart | ... So some of us manually added the ip :- |
| 01:38.16 | spldart | D |
| 01:38.20 | a_meteorite | Or maybe malware defines anything that doesn't do what it's supposed to do. |
| 01:38.29 | spldart | Ah! My smiley is bleeding to death! |
| 01:38.30 | a_meteorite | Yeah, I ban you on sight. |
| 01:38.36 | blast007 | a_meteorite: like...Windows? ;) |
| 01:38.41 | a_meteorite | blast007: Exactly! |
| 01:38.44 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:38.55 | a_meteorite | blast007: Let's call M$ and tell them they are distributing malware and we want a refund. |
| 01:39.05 | a_meteorite | ;) |
| 01:39.15 | *** part/#bzflag a_temp_dist (n=a_temp_d@63-228-6-185.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 01:39.20 | spldart | IB next update disables win |
| 01:39.54 | CR_Wheelchair | Actually, there were some cases a few years back where people would sue a distributor for not refunding money for users who disagreed with the Windows EULA |
| 01:40.09 | brlcad | did they win? |
| 01:40.16 | CR_Wheelchair | In small claims, they did. |
| 01:40.32 | brlcad | you can sue anyone for anything, it only matters if you win ;) |
| 01:41.23 | CR_Wheelchair | There was even a write-upabout it in one of the Linux publications. I believe it was Linux Journal, if I recall correctly, butdon't hold me to that. |
| 01:41.58 | CR_Wheelchair | [darn space bar] |
| 01:42.46 | brlcad | can you be convinced to not use a cheat client on the public servers, and otherwise not cause yourself to get banned? |
| 01:43.12 | CR_Wheelchair | brb |
| 01:43.16 | brlcad | it really does slow improvements down if that means anything |
| 01:43.28 | spldart | brb and yes are the same number of letters |
| 01:44.04 | brlcad | ~rot13 brb |
| 01:44.04 | ibot | oeo |
| 01:45.26 | brad | ~rot13 lrf |
| 01:45.26 | ibot | yes |
| 01:45.37 | spldart | LMAO |
| 01:45.45 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 01:50.25 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpi (n=frank@gondolin.pimpi.org) |
| 01:51.34 | CR_Wheelchair | Come to think of it, it's time for a nick change. I'm a couple of months overdue, actually. |
| 01:52.04 | CR_Wheelchair | Well, I'm off. I'll pop in once in a blue moon like I normally do. It was nice talkingwith you all. Take it easy! |
| 01:52.08 | *** part/#bzflag CR_Wheelchair (n=john@ip68-105-103-234.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 01:52.50 | spldart | lame |
| 01:53.44 | inchworm | poor kid needs a hug |
| 01:54.04 | inchworm | and maybe a stiff spanking... |
| 01:56.09 | DTRemenak | just don't hug and spank at the same time, sends mixed messages (unless you go for that sort of thing) |
| 01:56.19 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 01:56.22 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:56.29 | spldart | eeeyyyuuuuuwwwaaahh |
| 01:56.50 | spldart | I'mma butch up and shoot some fellow tankers |
| 01:56.51 | inchworm | well, do both at the same time and you may get CRW 2.0 |
| 01:56.53 | a_meteorite | Nick change time... cool. |
| 01:57.11 | a_meteorite | Hopefully his IP is remotely similar. |
| 01:57.23 | spldart | drunk on pizza and beer I might add 8-0 |
| 01:57.34 | a_meteorite | How do you get drunk on pizza? |
| 01:57.42 | inchworm | spldart: steal drunk_drivers nick then.... |
| 01:57.44 | a_meteorite | Do you put alcoholic beverages on your pizza? |
| 01:57.51 | DTRemenak | it's like rumcake |
| 01:57.55 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 01:57.57 | spldart | I put beer in my chili |
| 01:57.58 | spldart | why not |
| 01:58.07 | a_meteorite | and then put chili on your pizza...? |
| 01:58.11 | spldart | why not |
| 01:58.16 | a_meteorite | :D |
| 01:58.43 | spldart | Oh... And red wine in my 'chicken international' |
| 01:58.50 | a_meteorite | Chicken international? |
| 01:59.29 | spldart | Nice little recipe, crock pot chickena nd select veggies over a rice base |
| 01:59.38 | spldart | good stuff |
| 01:59.56 | a_meteorite | Sounds good. |
| 02:00.05 | a_meteorite | Except for the wine part... |
| 02:00.18 | a_meteorite | I can't handle any wine except very diluted in 7up... |
| 02:00.32 | spldart | 7up and crackers? hehe |
| 02:00.34 | a_meteorite | Well, it'd burn up. |
| 02:00.52 | DTRemenak | cooking with wine boils most of the alcohol off anyway |
| 02:01.15 | a_meteorite | Yeah |
| 02:01.20 | DTRemenak | leaves you with all the flavorful goodness |
| 02:01.28 | spldart | mm MMM |
| 02:01.38 | spldart | same with chili with beer... |
| 02:01.39 | a_meteorite | I just had a very bad experience when mom poured me half a wine glass. :P |
| 02:01.46 | spldart | Otherwise my youngest kids couldn't parake |
| 02:01.49 | a_meteorite | I think she stores it wrong. |
| 02:01.49 | spldart | partake |
| 02:02.11 | DTRemenak | if you use it fast enough, storage is close to irrelevant |
| 02:02.24 | a_meteorite | It sat in the fridge probably more than 4 years. |
| 02:02.31 | DTRemenak | mmm, vinegar |
| 02:02.32 | a_meteorite | I still think it's in there, that's gotta be 5 years... |
| 02:02.42 | a_meteorite | I know. |
| 02:03.38 | a_meteorite | Hah, so much for her very strict follow the laws regimen. |
| 02:03.52 | DTRemenak | hm? |
| 02:04.04 | a_meteorite | Just turned 16... :P |
| 02:05.09 | spldart | You people would be making me very hungry right now... except for the aforementioned pizza and beer :-p |
| 02:05.20 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 02:05.25 | DTRemenak | unless you live in connecticut, there's nothing illegal about that. alcohol consumption by minors in private settings with parental consent is explicitly permitted by 35 states, and implicitly permitted by 14 more. |
| 02:05.59 | a_meteorite | Oh, I'm in California. |
| 02:06.05 | a_meteorite | Wow, I didn't know that. |
| 02:06.42 | DTRemenak | purchasing and public consumption by persons under 21 are both illegal nationwide |
| 02:06.45 | spldart | Yeah... here I can server alcohol in moderation to any of my kids... They would have to prove negligence on my part to charge me and I'm NOT even close to that with beer chili and wine in my crock pot hehe |
| 02:07.16 | brlcad | now if it were in your crack pot, that would be a different story |
| 02:07.34 | spldart | Hey now! leave my crack pip... pot out of it |
| 02:07.49 | spldart | Hrm... that reminds me |
| 02:07.53 | spldart | Need to call my pusher |
| 02:07.56 | spldart | LOLOL |
| 02:08.08 | a_meteorite | your pusher? |
| 02:08.15 | spldart | meh.. bad joke |
| 02:08.31 | a_meteorite | pogovina? |
| 02:08.42 | spldart | ooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo |
| 02:08.44 | spldart | damn |
| 02:09.02 | spldart | I can't believe you said that |
| 02:09.49 | spldart | Ah.... Pusher - 70-80's reference to a person who deals illegal drugs. |
| 02:10.01 | a_meteorite | Oh |
| 02:10.11 | a_meteorite | I thought you meant servant for some reason... |
| 02:10.12 | spldart | But I'll get off this subject now... before I get kicked |
| 02:10.25 | view | CRW is now using the name Parkinson J. Fox |
| 02:10.29 | a_meteorite | LOL |
| 02:10.31 | spldart | LOL....... |
| 02:10.35 | view | he is at my server now, Alec's CTF Map |
| 02:10.39 | a_meteorite | hahaha |
| 02:10.42 | spldart | pogovina on deviant art is my wife :) |
| 02:10.54 | brlcad | ahh, nifty |
| 02:10.56 | a_meteorite | OK, I'll go monitor all the servers and watch for his appearance. |
| 02:11.04 | spldart | IP same? |
| 02:11.05 | view | I'm not gonna ban him ;) |
| 02:11.07 | a_meteorite | Banination. |
| 02:11.07 | brlcad | well, congratulations are in order then ;) |
| 02:11.09 | a_meteorite | Aw! |
| 02:11.09 | view | one second |
| 02:11.32 | view | 68.105.103.234 |
| 02:11.47 | a_meteorite | Same IP. |
| 02:11.49 | spldart | same ip |
| 02:11.51 | spldart | oop |
| 02:11.54 | spldart | jynx |
| 02:11.58 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 02:11.59 | spldart | 1 2 3 4 5 |
| 02:12.21 | a_meteorite | view: Play with him! |
| 02:12.28 | a_meteorite | /kill him whenever he is supposed to be killed |
| 02:12.33 | spldart | is it legit client? |
| 02:12.50 | a_meteorite | /kill "Parkinson J. Fox" You should of died |
| 02:12.53 | DTRemenak | meh, /kill him even when someone misses him :) |
| 02:12.56 | a_meteorite | haha |
| 02:13.02 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:13.09 | DTRemenak | "cheaters never prosper" |
| 02:13.29 | view | "/kill "parkinson. j. fox" PING PANG PING PANG" |
| 02:15.04 | *** join/#bzflag JBdiGriz (n=JBdiGriz@adsl-63-199-246-191.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 02:15.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 02:15.15 | view | look out for PARKINSON J. FOX it is Christopher Reeves Wheelchair! |
| 02:15.23 | a_meteorite | Yeah |
| 02:15.26 | a_meteorite | I'm making rounds |
| 02:15.27 | inchworm | same IP? |
| 02:15.31 | view | es |
| 02:15.33 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 02:15.34 | view | yes |
| 02:17.39 | delusional_ | He didnt change his IP so old range bans will continue to work. |
| 02:20.23 | delusional_ | is pastebin down? |
| 02:20.25 | brad | Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: unknown property name after \P or \p at offset 1824 in /usr/web/my.bzflag.org/wiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist_body.php on line 210 |
| 02:20.41 | JBdiGriz | Cox isn't known for great user service. |
| 02:21.14 | a_meteorite | I wonder if we could report his IP none-the-less? |
| 02:21.43 | JBdiGriz | Feel free to do so, but I doubt if Cox would even care. You might get an auto-answer. |
| 02:21.45 | *** join/#bzflag Parkinson (n=john@ip68-105-103-234.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 02:21.48 | a_meteorite | Heh |
| 02:21.55 | a_meteorite | welcome CRW |
| 02:23.39 | *** part/#bzflag Parkinson (n=john@ip68-105-103-234.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 02:24.39 | *** join/#bzflag Parkinson (n=john@ip68-105-103-234.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 02:28.23 | brlcad | brad: apparently fixed one problem but the other remains |
| 02:28.42 | brlcad | that looks to be an issue with the spamlist extension that was used |
| 02:28.43 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=troublem@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 02:29.06 | brlcad | inchworm: not in the least |
| 02:29.22 | brad | I see |
| 02:29.48 | inchworm | brlcad: o well, i didn't really want it to got that far anyway |
| 02:29.49 | view | hello parkinson! |
| 02:30.06 | Parkinson | Hi. |
| 02:30.07 | brad | I get that warning when I submit a page without a "Summary" |
| 02:30.19 | spldart | Hi J. |
| 02:31.17 | a_meteorite | How's the foundation? |
| 02:31.48 | brlcad | brad: heh, well that's easy then! |
| 02:31.54 | brlcad | you're supposed to write a summary :) |
| 02:33.01 | brad | :D |
| 02:40.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: |
| 02:40.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: update to the latest autogen.sh from brl-cad. a lot of improvements including |
| 02:40.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: improved version checking, changed behavior on handling unsupported macros, |
| 02:40.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: assumption of sed, in-memory clobber protection on COPYING and INSTALL (instead |
| 02:40.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: of using backup files), consistent error reporting, and identification (that now |
| 02:40.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: also includes a version of this script). |
| 02:42.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/.cvsignore: no longer store a COPYING.backup and INSTALL.backup in here |
| 02:43.27 | brlcad | hmmm.. i should import the pretty printing configure steps sometime |
| 02:45.01 | brlcad | oh, and compilation time stats |
| 02:51.12 | brlcad | Parkinson: your insistence on continuing will be considered, just wouldn't expect any forgiveness down the road |
| 03:02.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/AUTHORS: bthansen picked up activity significantly in 2006, enough to bump him up above just a significant contribution designation at this point -- his efforts started in 2005, so insert accordingly. |
| 03:14.33 | *** part/#bzflag view (n=view@c-69-249-178-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
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| 03:40.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
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| 05:16.18 | JeffM2501 | why am I forbiden to edit the wiki? |
| 05:25.07 | brad | what's the error? |
| 05:25.25 | JeffM2501 | forbiden |
| 05:25.43 | brad | ah :P |
| 05:25.52 | brad | all I can say is it's working fine for me |
| 05:25.59 | JeffM2501 | it's like a server forbiden |
| 05:26.09 | JeffM2501 | maybe it's cus I was editing one of your articles :) |
| 05:26.16 | brad | heh |
| 05:26.27 | brad | anyone who edits my articles gets autobanned |
| 05:26.46 | brad | which one was it? |
| 05:26.53 | brad | I might have been editing at the same time |
| 05:26.54 | JeffM2501 | Single Player Mode |
| 05:27.02 | brad | nvm |
| 05:27.10 | JeffM2501 | I totaly redid it |
| 05:27.21 | brad | great ;) |
| 05:28.54 | JeffM2501 | I have a feeling I'll be redoing most of the ones ported from the old wiki |
| 05:29.01 | JeffM2501 | but that's how it should be, they should get reviewd |
| 05:29.47 | brad | shall I stop copying the old ones over? |
| 05:29.54 | JeffM2501 | no no |
| 05:30.03 | JeffM2501 | keep doin it |
| 05:30.06 | brad | k :) |
| 05:30.13 | JeffM2501 | it's a lot easier to port them in place |
| 05:31.50 | JeffM2501 | hmmm it's like some spam thing is kicking in with the data I'm submiting |
| 05:31.56 | JeffM2501 | if I do smaller posts it's working |
| 05:32.05 | brad | odd |
| 05:32.18 | JeffM2501 | no, I bet it's the abbuse blocking stuff |
| 05:32.18 | brad | i've done quite a few large edits |
| 05:32.30 | brad | aren't you an admin though? |
| 05:32.37 | brad | shouldn't affect you :) |
| 05:32.43 | JeffM2501 | it's not a wiki tyhing |
| 05:32.47 | JeffM2501 | but a SEVER thing |
| 05:32.52 | brad | ohh |
| 05:32.54 | JeffM2501 | it's happening at an apache level |
| 05:33.02 | JeffM2501 | I've sent too much to that one URL |
| 05:33.14 | JeffM2501 | so it thinks I'm trying to hack the server |
| 05:33.22 | JeffM2501 | brlcad and blast007 have some stuff setup to look for that |
| 05:33.34 | JeffM2501 | I guess I've just edited the wiki too much :( |
| 05:33.46 | brad | hehe |
| 05:34.31 | brad | do you want the "Download" page copied over? |
| 05:34.42 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 05:34.49 | JeffM2501 | tho that one may just go away |
| 05:34.50 | brad | including the old downlods? |
| 05:35.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah, get it all over, we can filter it later |
| 05:35.15 | JeffM2501 | I have pages for some of the releases |
| 05:35.29 | JeffM2501 | I'll finish them up and then we can move the info for downloads into those |
| 05:35.40 | brad | alright |
| 05:38.43 | brlcad | hehe |
| 05:40.41 | JeffM2501 | am I just too edit happy |
| 05:40.46 | brad | ok.... this might sound rather stupid...... but is there any way to register on the old wiki? |
| 05:41.05 | brad | atm im doing it the hard way :) |
| 05:41.19 | brad | it's probably 10x easier to copy from the edit page |
| 05:41.54 | blast007 | brad: yeah, you can register |
| 05:42.01 | blast007 | User Preferences page |
| 05:42.11 | blast007 | not very intuitive though |
| 05:42.24 | brad | thx |
| 05:43.57 | brad | the new wiki seems to handle URLs differently |
| 05:44.18 | brad | [http://google.com/] shows [1] instead of http://google.com/ |
| 05:44.33 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 05:44.58 | JeffM2501 | if you put it in [ ] then it means your going to put in text to replace teh link discription |
| 05:45.10 | JeffM2501 | they are difrent wiki systems after all :) |
| 05:45.59 | brad | aww :( |
| 05:46.00 | brad | You don't have permission to access /wiki/index.php on this server. |
| 05:46.13 | brad | seems I've also been doing too much editing |
| 05:46.56 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:47.52 | brlcad | JeffM2501: nah, not too edit happy |
| 05:47.55 | brlcad | it's the content on that particular page |
| 05:48.04 | brlcad | it's getting picked up as potential sql injection |
| 05:48.14 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 05:48.17 | brlcad | look for the word select somewhere |
| 05:48.24 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 05:48.27 | brad | I see |
| 05:48.31 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 05:48.45 | brad | Run it by selecting "BZFS configuratio... |
| 05:48.50 | brad | would that set it off? |
| 05:48.55 | brad | that's the only "select" |
| 05:49.04 | brlcad | it's actually a lot more complex, was just hoping that was it |
| 05:49.09 | brlcad | the regex it's matching is... |
| 05:49.19 | JeffM2501 | maybe find? |
| 05:49.47 | brlcad | ((select|grant|delete|insert|drop|alter|replace|truncate|update|create|rename|describe)[[:spac |
| 05:49.50 | brlcad | e:]]+[A-Z|a-z|0-9|\\*| |\\,]+[[:space:]]+(from|into|table|database|index|view)[[:space:]]+[A-Z|a-z|0-9|\\*| |\\,]|UNION SELECT.*\\'.*\\'.*,[0-9].*INTO.*FROM) |
| 05:50.04 | brlcad | which is to say.. it's nasty ;) but that's a lot of potentials |
| 05:50.29 | brlcad | delete from, insert into, alter database, etc |
| 05:50.57 | brad | "alter ADMIN group" ? |
| 05:51.21 | brlcad | close |
| 05:51.36 | brlcad | alter admin + (from|into|table|database|index|view) |
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| 05:51.56 | brad | ah |
| 05:52.03 | legol | ~bzfquery 68.127.127.55:5154 |
| 05:52.06 | legol | hi all |
| 05:52.10 | brad | hi |
| 05:52.20 | brlcad | where's the old page? |
| 05:52.32 | brad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServe |
| 05:52.37 | brad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 05:53.58 | JeffM2501 | mine was "into" |
| 05:54.05 | JeffM2501 | that is a very limiting set of words |
| 05:56.35 | brlcad | i think it's catching on "create a password database" |
| 05:56.50 | brad | ok, I'll try without that |
| 05:57.06 | brlcad | that " " in the [A-Z|a-z|0-9|\\*| |\\,] is a killer.. |
| 05:57.15 | brlcad | hmmmm |
| 05:57.22 | brad | yeah that was it |
| 05:57.41 | JeffM2501 | got mine setup |
| 05:58.04 | JeffM2501 | is the wiki even using mysql? |
| 05:58.08 | brlcad | well, do folks want that check disabled and (mildly) increase risk of sql attacks or leave it as is and edit around it? |
| 05:58.13 | blast007 | JeffM2501: yeah |
| 05:58.15 | brlcad | yes, it does |
| 05:58.21 | blast007 | the old one didn't |
| 05:58.26 | JeffM2501 | can we disable it just for that one URL? |
| 05:58.36 | JeffM2501 | the old one was on another server too :) |
| 05:58.42 | brlcad | the same can happen anywhere you have a form being submitted |
| 05:59.00 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to not edit around it, as the error isn't very user friendsly |
| 05:59.00 | brlcad | it's one of the common ways to abuse php when there's a vulnerability |
| 05:59.01 | DTRemenak | whitelist ftw? |
| 05:59.31 | brlcad | it's caught lots of stuff in phpbb matching that case (with sql in the submit) |
| 06:00.21 | brlcad | DTRemenak: heh, that's where the injections would come from -- might as well disable/modify it |
| 06:00.24 | JeffM2501 | if we are going to realy use this, some of those things we should be able to type |
| 06:00.45 | JeffM2501 | like 'into' |
| 06:00.49 | brlcad | i mean, it's really obvious when you type the phrase as it locks you out fast with the forbidden |
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| 06:01.04 | brlcad | but you'd have to be "in the know" to search your text for the phrase |
| 06:01.04 | JeffM2501 | if you know the server has that setup |
| 06:01.28 | brlcad | removing the space from that regex would get rid of a LOT of false positives I think |
| 06:01.32 | DTRemenak | brlcad: injections from trusted sources? |
| 06:02.11 | brlcad | DTRemenak: but who'd be the trusted sources? add a whitelist for all players?? |
| 06:02.41 | blast007 | brlcad: people who pay to get on the list ;) |
| 06:02.43 | brlcad | i'd rather disable it before fooling with that kind of overhead .. there are other protections in place that'd hopefully block the attempt |
| 06:02.47 | brlcad | blast007: hehe |
| 06:02.49 | DTRemenak | forum accounts with at least one non-deleted post active for at least 3 months? |
| 06:03.57 | JeffM2501 | now that's what I call a Single Player Mode page :) |
| 06:04.22 | DTRemenak | could suggest lots of criteria. probably none would make everybody happy, so why do I even bother... :) |
| 06:04.34 | brlcad | :) |
| 06:05.59 | brlcad | it's somewhat uncommon to hit the rule, I'll try removing the space and see if it bites again .. it'll still match sql syntax (just not columns with spaces in the name) |
| 06:08.11 | brlcad | hm, looks like i've already disabled two other similar generic sql statements for this same reason |
| 06:09.40 | brad | is there a reason why the S is upper-case in "IdeaS" on the old wiki? |
| 06:10.03 | blast007 | brad: it was so that the wiki picked up that it was a wiki keyword |
| 06:10.36 | blast007 | normally they were multiple words, with the first letter of each word being capital |
| 06:10.46 | brlcad | glorious behavior |
| 06:10.49 | brad | I see :) |
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| 06:18.29 | brad | I just got another 403 |
| 06:18.41 | brad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/DeadReckoning |
| 06:18.53 | brad | something in there is triggering it |
| 06:23.16 | blast007 | brad: what did you do!?! |
| 06:23.29 | brad | lol |
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| 06:24.25 | delusional_ | Has it ever been discussed that perhaps a registered account should be required for a server listing? |
| 06:24.25 | delusional_ | too draconian? |
| 06:24.25 | blast007 | delusional_: it's been mentioned before |
| 06:24.25 | blast007 | pw ;) |
| 06:24.25 | delusional_ | ty |
| 06:24.25 | brad | updates from A .... would that set it off? |
| 06:24.26 | brad | apprently not |
| 06:25.30 | brlcad | brad: there are filter updates that I'm upgrading, hold off and I'll see if it helps |
| 06:26.27 | brad | ah ok |
| 06:30.56 | brlcad | ahh, beautiful.. does now have a slew of exceptions and that particular regex was completely redone |
| 06:31.12 | brlcad | give it a try now |
| 06:32.04 | brad | ok |
| 06:32.33 | brad | got a 403 |
| 06:32.44 | brad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/ListServer |
| 06:34.03 | brlcad | odd.. "Pattern match "!/imp/login\\.php" at HEADER("Referer") [id "300018"] [rev "3"] [msg "Generic PHP code injecti |
| 06:34.06 | brlcad | on protection via ARGS"] [severity "CRITICAL"] |
| 06:34.16 | JeffM2501 | what year did Tim get maintainership of the project? |
| 06:34.22 | JeffM2501 | 2000? when it went on SF? |
| 06:39.18 | brlcad | brad: try again? |
| 06:39.34 | brad | k |
| 06:39.49 | brad | nope, same |
| 06:40.17 | brlcad | k, that was just to check if a restart was required.. again? |
| 06:40.30 | brad | same :( |
| 06:40.31 | brlcad | JeffM2501: hmmm.. don't recall |
| 06:41.03 | JeffM2501 | I'll mark it as 2k and he can edit it if he wants :) |
| 06:41.23 | brlcad | brad: again |
| 06:41.47 | brad | it works =) |
| 06:42.11 | brad | I'll try dead reckoning again |
| 06:42.48 | brad | that's fine too |
| 06:43.40 | brlcad | JeffM2501: i'd guess 2k or 2k1 |
| 06:44.02 | JeffM2501 | SF is tagged with 2k |
| 06:44.09 | JeffM2501 | so I figure that's a decent start |
| 06:44.26 | JeffM2501 | had to do the [[Tim Riker]] page :) |
| 06:45.40 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:46.57 | brlcad | we've got an entirely new set of filters running so keep an eye out for anything coming back rejected on phpbb too .. likely a few more rules that need to be toned down a little |
| 06:51.08 | JeffM2501 | ohhh JOY.. editing the Karma page.... must...remain... impartial.... |
| 06:52.47 | blast007 | ~karma-- |
| 06:53.18 | brad | ~karma karma |
| 06:53.18 | ibot | karma has karma of 5 |
| 06:53.23 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:54.05 | brad | I think I've copied all the old wiki pages over. |
| 06:54.38 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 06:54.48 | JeffM2501 | I've been cleaning them up as you go :) |
| 06:55.12 | brad | :) |
| 06:55.38 | brad | do you want http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking or has that been done somewhere else? |
| 06:56.10 | JeffM2501 | that's just the manpage |
| 06:56.14 | JeffM2501 | don't do that one |
| 06:56.29 | brad | ok |
| 06:56.31 | JeffM2501 | it's basicly in the BZW artile on the new site |
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| 11:32.32 | KTL | i was thinking about the server list |
| 11:32.42 | KTL | these days i see more servers then players online |
| 11:33.26 | KTL | but however there are many servers, people are forced to use the ones with players, the top of the list |
| 11:34.19 | KTL | my guess is that it would be interesting to let clients distribute 10 votes or so over the preferred servers |
| 11:34.47 | KTL | and servers with many votes would come higher |
| 11:34.50 | KTL | in the list |
| 11:35.15 | KTL | in one more column the amount of votes could be displayed for each server |
| 11:36.46 | KTL | what i try to get is that people, if they want to play another map, that there is a way for them to get there |
| 11:37.30 | KTL | therefore they need to attract other players to their preferred servers |
| 11:39.19 | KTL | to avoid abuse the current authentication system can be used |
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| 11:39.55 | KTL | the votes don't go to the servers but to the central server list |
| 11:47.10 | KTL | if the default order in which the servers are sorted are the votes instead of the current amount of players |
| 11:47.59 | KTL | then ... i want to see what will happen then |
| 11:48.52 | short_circuit | Kinda karma_ish |
| 11:49.13 | KTL | :) |
| 11:50.46 | spldart | You would have the votes have a certain life span? So servers voted up don't stay up indefinitely if they don't continue to get votes? |
| 11:51.37 | spldart | And only one vote on each of a players favorite servers |
| 11:51.42 | KTL | the life span yes |
| 11:51.50 | KTL | and an extra check on the ip |
| 11:51.56 | spldart | Can't put all 10 of your's on one or just 3 fav's |
| 11:51.58 | KTL | so that people don't create 100 accounts |
| 11:52.26 | KTL | well i was more thinking about the ability to put all of them on one server too |
| 11:52.57 | KTL | and the life span ... the votes should be renewed by the clients on the background every so many minutes |
| 11:53.56 | spldart | What about listing in order of how much traffic the server get's on average and not on how much traffic at any one instant. I know the groundwork is already in place for that.... So a server that often get's 6 or 8 players but doesn't have but one right now might stay up high for a while |
| 11:55.17 | KTL | i don't understand, aren't you promoting the allready popular servers yet? making them even more difficult to be replaced? |
| 11:55.45 | KTL | badgerking stays up because everybody knows badgerking |
| 11:56.04 | KTL | sometimes there is nobody |
| 11:56.09 | KTL | but the day after it is back |
| 11:56.40 | KTL | if people see that many other players prefer specific unknown servers |
| 11:56.46 | KTL | they will be more willing to go there |
| 11:57.15 | KTL | without having to find out that the unknown server consists of blocks on a green field |
| 11:57.33 | KTL | and without having a pain in the ass because the map tries to overload the graphics card :D |
| 11:58.59 | spldart | An ex... I have a few fav rabbit chase maps... sometimes they are empty though and so I have to dig down the list... if they had a + karma cuz they get real busy once in a while maybe they would stay in the top 3 pages or something. |
| 11:59.01 | KTL | or a server crowded with bots |
| 11:59.11 | spldart | bot spamming suxors |
| 11:59.42 | KTL | i also propose to make the serverlist a real table with sortable columns |
| 12:00.00 | KTL | a server is only top of the list depending on the sorting used then |
| 12:00.34 | KTL | well yes |
| 12:00.35 | spldart | I know Jeff has an idea to do the server list in a sorted fashion with servers doin registered players only etc. in prefered columns etc... IIRC |
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| 14:28.08 | brad | brlcad, just another another 403 |
| 14:29.46 | brad | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Creating_A_Server |
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| 14:44.36 | donny_baker | brad: thanks |
| 14:58.43 | brad | the wiki is coming along nicely |
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| 15:10.22 | donny_baker | yes, better than I had hoped, lots of people are helping out |
| 15:10.27 | donny_baker | that is encouraging |
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| 15:15.29 | ts | donny_baker, "{{{sometext}}}" should be transformed to " sometext", correct? |
| 15:15.54 | brad | or you can use code tags |
| 15:16.01 | brad | <code></code> |
| 15:16.14 | ts | hmm, wasn't documented |
| 15:16.23 | brad | it's in the wiki help |
| 15:16.31 | ts | I looked..not found |
| 15:16.35 | brad | it shows a few of the allowed HTML tags |
| 15:16.49 | brad | <span> <br /> <code> <font> |
| 15:20.40 | ts | Still a 403 on submit of Creating_A_Server |
| 15:21.44 | brad | ts, there are 2 chroot pages now |
| 15:21.53 | ts | oh? |
| 15:21.57 | brad | BZFS in a chroot jail and BZFS In A Chroot Jail |
| 15:22.10 | ts | Creating_A_Server links to mine!!!! :p |
| 15:22.30 | brad | only because it can't be updated ;) |
| 15:23.33 | ts | brad: Mine looks better :p |
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| 15:24.12 | ts | I have updated {{{Â and so on |
| 15:24.34 | ts | Who is the author of the other one? I don't see it |
| 15:24.57 | brad | just use yours :P |
| 15:25.07 | brad | don't think Jeff updated it anyway |
| 15:25.17 | brad | I copied it from the old wiki |
| 15:32.30 | donny_baker | Which one are we keeping? i ca get rid of the other one Chroot or chroot? |
| 15:32.52 | brad | keep ts' |
| 15:40.24 | donny_baker | duplicate page gone... ts version kept |
| 15:45.00 | donny_baker | ts: hmmm i have seen that 403 before... working on it |
| 15:47.45 | brad | brlcad changed some things yesterday and said it might need some more "toning down" |
| 15:48.27 | donny_baker | brad: ah.. ok, let me look at the config settings |
| 15:48.48 | brad | it's not a wiki problem |
| 15:48.54 | brad | it's apache |
| 15:49.14 | brad | a security feature to stop sql injections |
| 15:50.21 | donny_baker | well i'm definately not an apache guy, so I'll leave it alone :) |
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| 15:51.02 | brad | :) |
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| 16:06.55 | brad | why is the main page locked now? |
| 16:07.16 | blast007 | hasn't it been locked for a while now? |
| 16:07.24 | brad | :S |
| 16:07.52 | donny_baker | it was supposed to be from the begining... only sysops |
| 16:07.58 | brad | :( |
| 16:08.01 | brad | ok |
| 16:08.13 | donny_baker | hate to have someone deface the main page |
| 16:08.27 | donny_baker | we can add anything you like |
| 16:08.45 | brad | can you add Category:Versions |
| 16:09.05 | brad | and Category:Releases maybe? |
| 16:09.37 | ts | brad: Iove SQL code injections :D |
| 16:10.02 | brad | ~lart ts |
| 16:10.06 | ts | awww |
| 16:10.13 | brad | ;) |
| 16:10.42 | donny_baker | the other pages aren't where everyone lands when they open the site... it's a prime target :) |
| 16:10.59 | donny_baker | brad: categories added |
| 16:11.14 | brad | but why not wait until it is abused to lock it? |
| 16:11.19 | brad | like with the other pages |
| 16:11.35 | brad | changes can easily be reverted |
| 16:11.35 | donny_baker | that's fine, i can meke it so registered can edit |
| 16:11.47 | brad | that'd be great, thx :) |
| 16:12.04 | donny_baker | done, you have to be signed in to edit the main page |
| 16:15.18 | brad | 1 other minor rant... http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Releases ..... would it be possible to remove the "B", "B cont.", etc. ? (I'm pretty sure they're all going to start with "B" :) |
| 16:20.30 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:21.33 | ts | Hmm, how should I name an article about steering the tank with different cursor settings? |
| 16:21.43 | ts | I'm somehow undecided |
| 16:22.41 | ts | donny_baker, brad: Suggestions? ;) |
| 16:22.52 | brad | mouse enhancements! :) |
| 16:22.56 | ts | no |
| 16:23.05 | blast007 | ~brad-- |
| 16:23.08 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:23.09 | brad | :( |
| 16:23.18 | ts | That's a Windows® name but BZFlag runs on other platforms, too |
| 16:23.42 | donny_baker | brad: not sure on the B: thing, but i will look into it |
| 16:23.53 | brad | what about "Different Mouse Settings"? |
| 16:23.57 | brad | keep it simple |
| 16:23.58 | ts | Cursor_Movement maybe? |
| 16:24.19 | brad | donny_baker: alright.. it's no big problem, I'm just being picky |
| 16:24.25 | ts | Ah, yes, easier to understand :) |
| 16:25.05 | donny_baker | the other option to a category is just to design a pag, but then it has to be edited to |
| 16:25.16 | donny_baker | prone to forgeting to edit the list page :( |
| 16:25.47 | TheRedBaron | ~lar tbrad |
| 16:25.59 | brad | ~lart TheRedBaron before be can lart me |
| 16:26.10 | TheRedBaron | oi |
| 16:26.16 | brad | troll! |
| 16:36.36 | brad | donny_baker: delete http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/BZFlag_1.7d please |
| 16:36.58 | brad | it's just a redirect now |
| 16:43.29 | blast007 | brad: it's gone |
| 16:44.02 | brad | ty |
| 16:55.03 | brad | I've just finished adding every bzflag release :) |
| 17:00.53 | brad | should "BZAdmin" be put in the "Client" category? |
| 17:01.57 | blast007 | yeah |
| 17:02.33 | brad | k |
| 17:02.45 | ts | Feel free to add to this: http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Different_Mouse_Settings |
| 17:14.55 | ts | Wow, 100 articles already :) |
| 17:16.20 | brad | yeah, doing great |
| 17:30.12 | ts | TheRedBaron: Aww, I can't spell :( |
| 17:30.43 | TheRedBaron | ts: i dont' make any claims to be an amazing speller |
| 17:30.57 | TheRedBaron | ts: but english isn't your first language |
| 17:31.10 | brad | Is it ok to change categories for Releases and Versions to pages? |
| 17:33.32 | *** part/#bzflag TheRedBaron (n=Medrec@216-173-166-82.electronet.net) |
| 17:33.41 | brad | I'll just do it, you can complain later if you want :) |
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| 17:35.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 17:36.12 | brad | Jeff, still getting some 403's |
| 17:43.46 | JeffM2501 | haven't tried today |
| 17:43.52 | JeffM2501 | just got into work |
| 17:49.05 | brad | ~seen spazzymcgee |
| 17:49.27 | ibot | spazzymcgee <n=SpazzyMc@client-82-3-227-158.glfd.adsl.virgin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 17h 4m 50s ago, saying: 'heh: this is what ts said about the applescript rotation script "and keep in mind not to do it with "AppleScript" because it would be a lot harder to keep the binary running in a prison"'. |
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| 18:55.12 | donny_baker | blast007:ping |
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| 19:36.32 | kiroyo | hi @ll |
| 19:37.21 | kiroyo | hmm |
| 19:37.47 | CBG | hi. |
| 19:37.51 | CBG | bye. |
| 19:38.13 | CBG | Thanks for visiting, please come again, jerk. |
| 19:38.46 | TheRedBaron | CBG misses like company :D |
| 19:40.15 | CBG | Hah, my dad always acted (and still acts) like an ass and his reason for this was (and is) that he worked (and works) 8 hours a day and is tired by the evening/weekend. |
| 19:40.53 | CBG | Well, this week I'm working 9-5 too, and today was mostly with my head in the floor of the comms room, fitting a water senso. So shush, TheRedBaron. |
| 19:42.17 | TheRedBaron | heh :) |
| 19:42.20 | TheRedBaron | I know the feeling |
| 19:42.58 | CBG | Yeah, something was setting it off every 15 min, for 7 mins, like clockwork. Guess who I was with for the morning... the dude trying to fix it. |
| 19:43.47 | TheRedBaron | every 15 minutes, for 7 minutes? |
| 19:43.54 | CBG | That's all we did too, go in there, pull up 10 floor tiles, tug it about a bit, shield it from the air con which would blow a force 10 gale in our faces, whatever, go back out to his desk, wait to see if the alarm was set off again or not. |
| 19:43.56 | TheRedBaron | so every 7 minutes, it would go off for 15 min? |
| 19:44.17 | TheRedBaron | or every 15 min it would go off for 7 min? |
| 19:44.24 | CBG | No, it was set off every 15 minutes and didn't reset itself for 7 mins. |
| 19:44.54 | CBG | So... 10:00: Alarm Triggered. 10:07: Alarm Back to Normal. 10:15: Alarm Triggered. |
| 19:45.07 | CBG | Give or take upto a minute here or there. |
| 19:51.00 | ts | brlcad: ping |
| 19:57.18 | donny_baker | blast007: unping (for now) |
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| 19:57.24 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 20:00.42 | ts | brlcad: Seems like the "keyboard angular velocity dampening" is still depending on framerate |
| 20:06.36 | *** join/#bzflag L4m3r (n=l4m3r@about/essy/warning/L4m3r) |
| 20:13.40 | *** join/#bzflag bz92 (n=410d9ff5@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:29.09 | brlcad | ts: the rate at which it accelerates to convergence, yes |
| 20:29.24 | brlcad | but that is also dampened, so it's still not nearly as bad |
| 20:30.23 | brlcad | as the commit comment said, it's not full-up "correct" to fully account for framerate, but it was fast to implement and seemed to reasonably behave well enough at least up to 300fps |
| 20:35.01 | brad | did you see the msg about 403's still happening? (sorry to bug you about this) |
| 20:35.56 | brlcad | yes, hadn't looked at the log yet |
| 20:38.10 | brlcad | ts: and to answer your question from yesterday -- sure, but remind me later (assuming I'm not confusing you with someone else) |
| 20:41.28 | ts | brlcad: Ah, ok. It's just that it now looks like slower with high FPS and faster with low FPS |
| 20:42.00 | ts | and regarding the reminder: I'll go to bed soon, my daytime is a lot different :/ |
| 20:48.05 | brlcad | ts: some of that might be perception |
| 20:48.30 | brlcad | turn on the debugging statements .. it should converge within 2-4 printings which amounts to 200-400ms |
| 20:50.07 | brlcad | which lower "felt" faster, it was mostly because the graphics were just so chunky -- the values showed convergence that was pretty much the same as much higher rates +- the 200ms window of variability |
| 20:50.20 | brlcad | and consistently |
| 20:50.29 | brlcad | brad: I think I fixed the bzadmin one |
| 20:50.56 | brad | yep, that works now :) |
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| 20:51.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
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| 21:01.44 | brlcad | brad: any others? |
| 21:04.18 | brlcad | i see creating_a_server also failed, but that was the same rule |
| 21:06.24 | *** join/#bzflag EbErT (n=EbErT@adsl-219-3-105.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:09.27 | Birdie | why dont make a sticky post "if you cant login blabla look here", it will reduce 50% of the posts:) |
| 21:11.44 | brad | brlcad: none others so far |
| 21:11.49 | brad | I think you fixed it :) |
| 21:12.20 | brad | ~brlcad++ |
| 21:41.13 | *** join/#bzflag bz45 (n=45360b95@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:42.19 | bz45 | <TimRiker> ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 21:43.33 | bz45 | <TimRiker> ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 21:44.07 | CBG | bz45: ? |
| 21:44.43 | *** join/#bzflag Bz_Win (n=Kyle@CPE00188ba1c45d-CM000f212f84a6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:45.00 | Bz_Win | Is there a max screen rez that BZFlag supports? |
| 21:45.24 | Bz_Win | Or can it therorectally be set up infinetly high? |
| 21:46.39 | gsnedders | I run it at 2560x1600. To my knowledge there is no hardcoded limit. |
| 21:46.51 | gsnedders | there are theoretical limits, like the size of ints |
| 21:47.00 | Bz_Win | yay :) |
| 21:47.25 | donny_baker | ok, im curious Bz_win... |
| 21:47.47 | CBG | Who's manufacturing these infinitely sized monitors? |
| 21:48.00 | CBG | Or are you projecting it onto the sky ? |
| 21:48.05 | Bz_Win | Acme corp :p |
| 21:48.34 | Bz_Win | I just wanted to know if there was a limit, CBG. |
| 21:48.49 | CBG | I know, just teasing. :) |
| 21:49.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0_cs_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (MainWindow.cxx bzflag.cxx bzflag.h playing.cxx playing.h): |
| 21:49.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Using native CS window. |
| 21:49.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Loosing for now: out of the window display, mouse and keyboard. |
| 21:49.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: you can test with joystick and the "./bzflag server.name" command |
| 21:50.17 | Bz_Win | And CBG, if I was projecting it onto the sky, the pixels would just get bigger ;) |
| 21:50.50 | *** join/#bzflag bz79 (n=45360b95@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:52.15 | bz79 | <TimRiker> ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 21:52.23 | bz79 | i need heklop! |
| 21:52.28 | bz79 | i need help! |
| 21:52.37 | TheRedBaron | bz79: help with what? |
| 21:52.43 | bz79 | how do i publish my bzflab server? |
| 21:52.47 | ts | You need to know what you are doing |
| 21:52.53 | bz79 | *bzflag |
| 21:53.00 | bz79 | how?!? |
| 21:53.04 | ts | It's all documented |
| 21:53.08 | ts | Read the forum |
| 21:53.10 | bz79 | WHERE? |
| 21:53.18 | bz79 | The Forum? |
| 21:53.25 | Bz_Win | dun dun dun.... |
| 21:53.30 | Bz_Win | try the semi completed wiki |
| 21:53.31 | Bz_Win | http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=CADHS1&sku=222-7315 |
| 21:53.33 | Bz_Win | oops... |
| 21:53.36 | Bz_Win | wrong link |
| 21:53.45 | TheRedBaron | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki |
| 21:53.45 | Bz_Win | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 21:54.04 | Bz_Win | or http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 21:54.21 | bz79 | i got to the section in the forum.. thanks so far.. |
| 21:54.52 | bz79 | what do i do now? |
| 21:54.59 | JeffM2501 | read it |
| 21:55.00 | donny_baker | read it |
| 21:55.07 | Bz_Win | read it |
| 21:55.08 | JeffM2501 | it has step by step instructions |
| 21:56.19 | purple_cow | hah |
| 21:56.20 | bz79 | pening... opening.. |
| 21:56.21 | JeffM2501 | who wrote the lag article? |
| 21:56.21 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: menotume IIRC |
| 21:56.21 | donny_baker | the new one? |
| 21:56.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah the new one |
| 21:56.21 | donny_baker | there are 2 |
| 21:56.21 | JeffM2501 | just the [[Lag]] one |
| 21:56.21 | CBG | TheRedBaron: click "History".. |
| 21:56.34 | bz79 | which wiki? |
| 21:56.36 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: um, not that new one |
| 21:56.44 | *** join/#bzflag grumble (n=463c1ce2@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:56.46 | TheRedBaron | the old one is the one I was thinking of |
| 21:56.48 | JeffM2501 | looks like it's a hodge podge |
| 21:56.51 | JeffM2501 | I'll clean it up |
| 21:56.57 | donny_baker | bz79: you said you were there already' |
| 21:57.03 | CBG | TheRedBaron: sorry, wrong guy.. :P |
| 21:57.17 | bz79 | yah, the wiki homepage! there are tons of them.. |
| 21:57.21 | donny_baker | the old one needs the pics |
| 21:57.39 | donny_baker | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Creating_A_Server |
| 21:57.54 | JeffM2501 | the older one is also somewhat incoorect with the lag comp code in 2.1 |
| 21:58.18 | TheRedBaron | but 2.1 isn't current code |
| 21:58.29 | donny_baker | it should proably be updated to have sections on 2.0 and 2.1(2) |
| 21:58.30 | bz79 | ow do i tell the bot something |
| 21:58.30 | TheRedBaron | err. current stable release |
| 21:58.44 | donny_baker | bz79: bot? |
| 21:59.12 | Bz_Win | Just imagine he is saying things back...? |
| 21:59.15 | bz79 | it says that i have to tell the bot something.... |
| 21:59.34 | donny_baker | ah... you type ~bzfquery and then YOUR server and port name |
| 21:59.46 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker, not it just needs to be an impartial article on what network latency is |
| 21:59.54 | JeffM2501 | and not involve words like "horrible" ;) |
| 22:00.01 | donny_baker | hehe.. ok :) |
| 22:00.11 | bz79 | whats my port name? |
| 22:00.16 | donny_baker | but lag is horrible.. isn't it ;) |
| 22:00.25 | bz79 | how do i find it? |
| 22:00.26 | JeffM2501 | depends what you need it for :) |
| 22:00.38 | bz79 | :( |
| 22:00.46 | donny_baker | bz79: You should kn ow that or you need to start at the top again |
| 22:00.46 | JeffM2501 | bz79, the default port is 5154, as it says in the articles you were pointed to |
| 22:00.51 | JeffM2501 | please actualy READ THEM |
| 22:01.01 | JeffM2501 | you should also know something about networking. |
| 22:01.08 | donny_baker | just hitting the high points will get you in trouble |
| 22:01.11 | JeffM2501 | if you intend to run a puiblic server. |
| 22:01.15 | bz79 | thanks |
| 22:01.18 | JeffM2501 | public even |
| 22:02.09 | bz79 | ~bzfquery boozaboo.unknown.us:5154 |
| 22:02.22 | bz79 | ummm, whats my server? |
| 22:02.55 | Bz_Win | its your server |
| 22:02.56 | donny_baker | bz79: you should already know that to... you are not ready to run a server until you understand what is in the article |
| 22:02.59 | JeffM2501 | if you don't know that, then you should not be starting one |
| 22:03.00 | Bz_Win | how would we know? |
| 22:03.12 | JeffM2501 | if your just going to ask silly questions, then please leave |
| 22:03.13 | bz79 | where do i find it!?!? |
| 22:03.32 | donny_baker | you created it |
| 22:03.37 | donny_baker | you should know |
| 22:03.46 | bz79 | i didn't create one... |
| 22:03.50 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have one |
| 22:03.57 | JeffM2501 | bz79, how old are you? |
| 22:04.14 | bz79 | ... |
| 22:04.21 | Bz_Win | Please don't say your 40 with 3 kids. |
| 22:04.21 | bz79 | found out ho |
| 22:04.34 | JeffM2501 | perhaps you should ask your parents, or somone who is more knowledeable with computers |
| 22:04.44 | JeffM2501 | it is not our job to teach you about basic networking |
| 22:04.57 | JeffM2501 | we have pointed you to documented info, and you haven't read it |
| 22:05.07 | JeffM2501 | if your not willing to do that, then there is no point in helping you |
| 22:05.26 | JBdiGriz | ~ask |
| 22:05.28 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. |
| 22:05.54 | JeffM2501 | so ether you are very young and clueless, or just trying to pull our chains |
| 22:06.12 | JeffM2501 | if you are the former, then you need help, if you are the later, it will not be taken well. |
| 22:09.27 | *** part/#bzflag donny_baker (n=donny_ba@about/essy/vvvvv/donnybaker) |
| 22:15.53 | Bz_Win | Wow, my video card sucks, supports a better analog rez then digital rez :E |
| 22:24.04 | brlcad | heh, did someone forget to feed the JeffM2501 today? :) |
| 22:24.19 | JeffM2501 | nope just ate :) |
| 22:26.03 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=troublem@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 22:27.08 | *** topic/#bzflag by brad -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/wiki/index.php/Getting_Help || Paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag |
| 22:27.25 | brad | new wiki Getting_Help ^ |
| 22:32.49 | *** part/#bzflag bz79 (n=45360b95@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:35.07 | *** join/#bzflag KAIRE (n=570789c6@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:35.11 | KAIRE | MI SERVE UN AIUTO PLS |
| 22:35.25 | KAIRE | KI MI PUO AIUTARE?? |
| 22:35.46 | KAIRE | TUPONE CI 6?? |
| 22:35.50 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (n=triclops@203-217-47-13.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 22:35.55 | Tupone | si |
| 22:36.01 | Tupone | ma ancora per poco |
| 22:36.04 | KAIRE | MI SERVE UN ALTRO AIUTO |
| 22:36.08 | Tupone | e non usare maiuscole |
| 22:36.11 | KAIRE | allora |
| 22:36.29 | KAIRE | quando uno gioko a bzflag deve essere registrato al forum? |
| 22:36.35 | KAIRE | gioka* |
| 22:36.50 | KAIRE | ?? |
| 22:37.09 | Tupone | non necessariamente, ma se ti registri al forum puoi usare il nick e la password per giocare |
| 22:37.13 | brlcad | ciao kaire |
| 22:37.22 | KAIRE | ciao |
| 22:37.27 | KAIRE | ah |
| 22:37.27 | Tupone | Alcuni server non ti fanno giocare se non sei registrato |
| 22:37.32 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-22.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 22:37.34 | KAIRE | lo so |
| 22:37.42 | KAIRE | ma se ti bannano |
| 22:37.45 | KAIRE | dal forum |
| 22:37.57 | KAIRE | e sei registrato e la stessa kosa |
| 22:37.58 | KAIRE | ?? |
| 22:38.05 | KAIRE | se kome registrato? |
| 22:38.12 | Tupone | si, ma non ti far bannare |
| 22:38.25 | KAIRE | no perche |
| 22:38.34 | KAIRE | a me 2 mesi fa mi hanno bannato |
| 22:38.40 | KAIRE | perche scrivevo |
| 22:38.44 | KAIRE | in italiano |
| 22:38.52 | KAIRE | nn in inglese |
| 22:39.13 | KAIRE | ma io l'inglese nn lo so molto bene percio scrivevo al forum in italiano |
| 22:39.25 | Tupone | ma in bzflag siamo pochi, se pure cerchi di parlare italiano, voglio capire con chi dialoghi |
| 22:39.26 | KAIRE | cmq ad alcuni server |
| 22:39.53 | Tupone | KAIRE: sei ancora bannato? |
| 22:40.05 | KAIRE | penso di si |
| 22:40.20 | KAIRE | si perche in alcuni server nn posso entrarci perche dopo un po |
| 22:40.26 | KAIRE | mi rikiede il login |
| 22:40.39 | Tupone | se "prometti" di scrivere solo in inglese, posso vedere che fare |
| 22:40.51 | Tupone | oppure non scrivi |
| 22:40.56 | KAIRE | ok!grz tupone ma nella chat |
| 22:41.01 | KAIRE | posso parlla italiano?? |
| 22:41.18 | JeffM2501 | is he just a kid, or very excited? |
| 22:41.36 | Tupone | sarebbe meglio di no, pero' se hai necessita, ok |
| 22:41.56 | Tupone | JeffM2501: do you know if KAIRE is banned for something at the forum? |
| 22:42.11 | JeffM2501 | he had his posting permisions removed, but he is not banned |
| 22:42.23 | Tupone | ahh ok, that is good |
| 22:42.31 | JeffM2501 | what's his deal? |
| 22:42.32 | KAIRE | ? |
| 22:43.21 | Tupone | he has some problem with some server, requiring again to login. But maybe they are timed server |
| 22:43.32 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:43.48 | JeffM2501 | let me double check and make shure he's activated |
| 22:43.49 | KAIRE | si ho dei problemi kon alkuni server |
| 22:43.51 | spldart | heh.. was playing a ctf server a few minutes ago and time knocked us off |
| 22:43.56 | CBG | maybe it is a league server, where you must register at the league website too ( not just my.bzflag.org/bb/ )... |
| 22:44.22 | Tupone | KAIRE: non capisco il problema che hai con quei server, stanno controllando. |
| 22:44.38 | Tupone | Ma quanti anni hai ? |
| 22:45.25 | KAIRE | quasi 14 |
| 22:45.40 | JeffM2501 | his account was inactive |
| 22:45.50 | JeffM2501 | maybe he hit the password link or changed e-mails |
| 22:45.52 | Tupone | KAIRE: ok, sotto i dodici ci sono problemi, ma penso solo negli usa |
| 22:45.53 | JeffM2501 | I have activated it |
| 22:46.13 | Tupone | KAIRE: adesso sei stato riattivato |
| 22:46.22 | JeffM2501 | what's italian for "dude chill" |
| 22:46.56 | Tupone | you mean "be quiet?" |
| 22:47.06 | JeffM2501 | no, just "calm down a bit" :) |
| 22:47.25 | Tupone | "Calmati un po'" |
| 22:47.27 | JeffM2501 | if he was inactive he'd not be able to ID, he can probalby ID now just fine. |
| 22:47.38 | KAIRE | ? |
| 22:47.53 | KAIRE | cmq sono stati risolti quei problemi sui miei server?? |
| 22:47.58 | Tupone | Il tuo account era inattivo, ora dovrebbe funzionare |
| 22:48.02 | KAIRE | cioe su quei* |
| 22:48.09 | Tupone | se ti ricordi user e password |
| 22:48.10 | KAIRE | ok |
| 22:48.18 | KAIRE | ma se mi hanno bannato come faccio?? |
| 22:48.23 | KAIRE | allor anome si |
| 22:48.27 | KAIRE | la pass |
| 22:48.27 | JeffM2501 | he was not banned |
| 22:48.30 | KAIRE | nn saprei |
| 22:48.31 | JeffM2501 | that I can see |
| 22:48.35 | KAIRE | forse |
| 22:48.37 | KAIRE | si |
| 22:48.40 | KAIRE | mo rpovo |
| 22:48.41 | Tupone | ti hanno riattivato, non sei stato bannato |
| 22:48.49 | KAIRE | ah ok |
| 22:49.03 | KAIRE | tupone tu sei italiano??? |
| 22:49.22 | Tupone | KAIRE: ci sono dei server nei quali non puoi giocare comunque, sono utilizzati solo per alcuni gruppi |
| 22:49.34 | KAIRE | perke? |
| 22:49.54 | JeffM2501 | can he log into the forums? |
| 22:49.58 | KAIRE | solo oggi avro fatto 400 kill su bz flag ^^ |
| 22:50.08 | Tupone | KAIRE: beh, si. Penso di si. Almeno lo stato italiano mi riconosce |
| 22:50.18 | Tupone | KAIRE: puoi entrare nel forum? |
| 22:50.19 | KAIRE | ah ok |
| 22:50.25 | KAIRE | mo rpovo aspe |
| 22:50.28 | KAIRE | provo* |
| 22:51.25 | KAIRE | UFFA |
| 22:51.29 | KAIRE | no |
| 22:51.32 | KAIRE | sono bannato |
| 22:51.40 | JeffM2501 | what is his IP? |
| 22:51.47 | KAIRE | gurda mo ti diko |
| 22:51.51 | KAIRE | quello ke midice aspe |
| 22:52.01 | Tupone | KAIRE: sei su windows? |
| 22:52.08 | KAIRE | nono mac |
| 22:52.12 | KAIRE | You have been banned from this forum. |
| 22:52.21 | JeffM2501 | http://www.whatismyip.com |
| 22:52.21 | KAIRE | mi dice questo |
| 22:52.22 | Tupone | puoi sapere il tuo indirizzo IP |
| 22:52.24 | KAIRE | e altre kose |
| 22:52.41 | KAIRE | ke hai detto?? |
| 22:53.07 | Tupone | vai all'indirizzo che ti ha detto JeffM2501 con internet explorer, o quello che hai |
| 22:53.25 | KAIRE | ci sono andato |
| 22:53.38 | JeffM2501 | I'm checkin to see if he's in an e-mail ban now, I don't think we did hotmail.it |
| 22:53.50 | KAIRE | You have been banned from this forum. Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information. |
| 22:53.59 | KAIRE | mi dice questo quando entro nel forum |
| 22:54.03 | JeffM2501 | yes we know |
| 22:54.05 | Tupone | e che ti dice? un numero come 87.qualcosa.qualcatracosa.etc |
| 22:54.07 | JeffM2501 | hit the link |
| 22:54.25 | KAIRE | ti diko tt il codicer |
| 22:54.30 | KAIRE | codice* |
| 22:54.31 | KAIRE | ?? |
| 22:54.44 | Tupone | sei andato a quell'indirizzo? |
| 22:54.48 | Tupone | sono 4 numeri |
| 22:54.58 | KAIRE | te li diko?? |
| 22:55.08 | Tupone | Your IP Is ?? |
| 22:55.10 | JeffM2501 | I don't see a domain ban, so it's gotta be IP range |
| 22:55.12 | Tupone | si |
| 22:55.19 | KAIRE | 87.7.137.198 |
| 22:55.26 | JeffM2501 | huzzah |
| 22:55.30 | KAIRE | ? |
| 22:55.51 | Tupone | well? is a cheater or tk? |
| 22:56.05 | JeffM2501 | no, just that we finaly got the IP :) |
| 22:56.08 | JeffM2501 | checking now |
| 22:56.09 | KAIRE | tupone ma in bzflag si sale di lv?? si possono fare clan o gilde?? |
| 22:56.16 | KAIRE | o avere un server tt mio?? |
| 22:56.28 | Tupone | no, puoi solo diventare piu' bravo |
| 22:56.36 | KAIRE | ah ok |
| 22:56.41 | Tupone | un server tuo, si, ma che ci fai? |
| 22:56.52 | KAIRE | partite kon dei miei amici |
| 22:57.01 | KAIRE | gli ho fatti venir eio su bzflag |
| 22:57.08 | KAIRE | venire io* |
| 22:57.09 | Tupone | JeffM2501: you could have had his address from xchat :) |
| 22:57.11 | JeffM2501 | I got nothin in 87.7. range |
| 22:57.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah, the hex thing |
| 22:57.38 | Tupone | KAIRE: qual'e' il nick che usi per il forum? |
| 22:57.53 | KAIRE | PENSO KAIRE SISI |
| 22:57.55 | JeffM2501 | I can't see how he's banned if he's realy using the "KAIRE" username |
| 22:58.07 | JeffM2501 | the name, domain, nor IP is banned. |
| 22:58.41 | CBG | _is_ he using that name ? |
| 22:58.46 | Tupone | I have to go to sleep, tomorrow is a bad day. A question for you JeffM2501 |
| 22:58.48 | JeffM2501 | I'm guessing not |
| 22:58.56 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, have at it :) |
| 22:59.33 | Tupone | Any reason why I see only the radar and console, and not the "Out of Window" with my temporary change for CS |
| 22:59.40 | KAIRE | tupone qualke novità ?? sono ankora bannato?? |
| 22:59.51 | Tupone | not calling any drawing function from CS |
| 23:00.08 | JeffM2501 | could be issues with the stencel buffer |
| 23:00.14 | JeffM2501 | or not changing to perspective mode |
| 23:00.17 | KAIRE | . |
| 23:00.27 | Tupone | KAIRE: se tu stai usando il nick KAIRE, non sembri bannato |
| 23:00.34 | JeffM2501 | check to make sure the gluPerspective is geting called |
| 23:00.43 | Tupone | perspective mode is from openGL, or not? |
| 23:00.44 | KAIRE | :s |
| 23:00.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:00.55 | JeffM2501 | it sets the matrix up for a 3d view |
| 23:00.58 | KAIRE | strano motlo strano aspetta tupone |
| 23:00.59 | Tupone | so it should not, I didn't remove |
| 23:01.04 | KAIRE | io avevo skritto qualke msg |
| 23:01.15 | KAIRE | sul forum potertsi veder ei msg ke ho scritto e veder eil link |
| 23:01.21 | KAIRE | il nik* |
| 23:01.47 | Tupone | KAIRE: ma tu riesci ad entrare sul forum? |
| 23:02.08 | Tupone | JeffM2501: the only things that could have changed is the setup of GLX |
| 23:02.12 | JeffM2501 | we go into orthographic for the controll pannels |
| 23:02.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah, then I'm guessing it's to do with not having a setencel buffor |
| 23:02.35 | JeffM2501 | or scissor support |
| 23:02.40 | KAIRE | mo ci riprovo |
| 23:02.53 | Tupone | ok I will see tomorrow |
| 23:02.55 | JeffM2501 | they clip the drawing to inside the boxes for the chat and radar |
| 23:03.05 | KAIRE | MO TI DIKO KOSA MI DICE GURDA |
| 23:03.24 | KAIRE | You have been banned from this forum.Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information. |
| 23:03.26 | Tupone | I uploaded the current status (committed) |
| 23:03.39 | Tupone | ma che nick hai usato? |
| 23:03.58 | KAIRE | KAIRE |
| 23:04.31 | Tupone | KAIRE: io devo andare a dormire, mi dispiace. Qua nessuno parla italiano |
| 23:04.39 | Tupone | prova domani |
| 23:04.44 | KAIRE | NEMMENO IL TUO AMIKO? |
| 23:04.53 | KAIRE | TUPONE |
| 23:05.00 | KAIRE | SE MI REGISTRO DI NUOVO??+ |
| 23:05.06 | Tupone | Prova |
| 23:05.11 | KAIRE | TUPONE |
| 23:05.20 | Tupone | Manu e' spagnolo, brlcad americano |
| 23:05.20 | KAIRE | MA POSSO |
| 23:05.29 | KAIRE | RIUSARE |
| 23:05.33 | KAIRE | LA MIA EMAIL?? |
| 23:05.36 | CBG | IF I SPEAKA LIKE DIS, YOU UNDERZDAND ME BETTAH?? |
| 23:05.47 | Tupone | aspetta |
| 23:05.51 | Tupone | CBG: lol |
| 23:05.55 | Manu | :) |
| 23:06.02 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban) |
| 23:06.04 | Tupone | JeffM2501: can he reuse his own mail? |
| 23:06.18 | JeffM2501 | no, one per account |
| 23:06.22 | Tupone | he seems banned |
| 23:06.27 | JeffM2501 | ask him what username he realy is using. |
| 23:06.40 | CBG | he said KAIRE I guess. |
| 23:06.41 | Tupone | he is using the nick KAIRE |
| 23:06.49 | CBG | [11:03pm] <Tupone> ma che nick hai usato? [11:03pm] <KAIRE> KAIRE |
| 23:06.58 | Tupone | CBG: :) |
| 23:07.05 | CBG | nick..? -> KAIRE. :) |
| 23:07.18 | KAIRE | :) |
| 23:07.27 | CBG | I speak no languages besides English, but I'd put a little money on that. :) |
| 23:07.27 | Manu | what's his nick? k |
| 23:07.35 | CBG | Whether it is true or not..... heh |
| 23:07.44 | JeffM2501 | if that is the nick he's using I can't see why he is banned. |
| 23:07.49 | KAIRE | tupone novità ?? |
| 23:08.11 | Tupone | KAIRE: non si capisce perche' sei bannato |
| 23:08.27 | Tupone | JeffM2501: you could delete his account, so the email can be freed |
| 23:08.37 | KAIRE | perke ho scritto in italiano sulf orum |
| 23:08.42 | JeffM2501 | let me check |
| 23:08.45 | KAIRE | sul forum molti |
| 23:08.53 | JeffM2501 | if he's got posts I'd rather not |
| 23:08.54 | KAIRE | e uno mi ha detto |
| 23:08.56 | JeffM2501 | but let me look |
| 23:08.59 | KAIRE | sei bannato nn me rikordo |
| 23:09.24 | JeffM2501 | he's deleted |
| 23:09.33 | KAIRE | perke srkivendo molti msg rallentavo il forum mi ha detto |
| 23:10.07 | Tupone | KAIRE: sei stato cancellato. Puoi riprovare a iscriverti |
| 23:10.07 | CBG | YOU IS DELETED!! |
| 23:10.16 | Tupone | IO ti lascio |
| 23:10.17 | KAIRE | ok mo provo |
| 23:10.19 | Tupone | cu |
| 23:10.20 | JeffM2501 | CBG, not the time for it |
| 23:10.30 | CBG | Sorry.. I'm out anyway. |
| 23:10.30 | KAIRE | adesso provo |
| 23:10.35 | KAIRE | aspe |
| 23:11.02 | JeffM2501 | KAIRE, no more people speak italian, if you want more help, you will have to find a way to speak english. I am sorry but that is all we can do for you. |
| 23:11.28 | brad | http://www.google.com/language_tools |
| 23:11.41 | brad | not great but better than nothing :) |
| 23:12.17 | KAIRE | i will try spike in english nn iknow it well |
| 23:12.48 | JeffM2501 | I have deleted your account, make a new one. |
| 23:13.05 | KAIRE | OK! |
| 23:15.20 | KAIRE | IT SAYS TO ME THAT NN I CAM MO I SAY WHAT TO YOU SAYS GEST MOMENT PLS |
| 23:15.57 | JeffM2501 | you can use http://www.google.com/language_tools to translate from italian to english |
| 23:16.09 | JeffM2501 | and for the love of got turn OFF CAPS-LOCK |
| 23:16.30 | KAIRE | thx |
| 23:17.36 | KAIRE | it does not make me to record |
| 23:17.48 | KAIRE | Please enter the name of the game. |
| 23:17.58 | JeffM2501 | enter bzflag |
| 23:17.59 | KAIRE | Sorry, but this e-mail address has been banned. |
| 23:18.08 | JeffM2501 | what e-mail address are you using? |
| 23:19.07 | KAIRE | NICOLATERZI_2005@hotmail.it |
| 23:19.17 | brlcad | hehe |
| 23:19.49 | KAIRE | ? |
| 23:19.52 | JeffM2501 | try it again |
| 23:20.59 | KAIRE | that you have said nn I have understood |
| 23:21.05 | *** join/#bzflag bz23 (n=c932fd14@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:21.13 | JeffM2501 | do it one more time |
| 23:21.16 | JeffM2501 | it will work now |
| 23:21.33 | JeffM2501 | register again |
| 23:21.44 | JeffM2501 | pusha da button |
| 23:24.34 | KAIRE | IT SAYS THIS TO ME WAITED FOR |
| 23:24.46 | KAIRE | Please enter the name of the game. |
| 23:25.51 | KAIRE | WHAT I MUST MAKE? |
| 23:26.06 | JeffM2501 | the word "bzflag" |
| 23:26.08 | *** part/#bzflag bz23 (n=c932fd14@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:27.46 | JeffM2501 | in the place that says "Enter the name of this game: *" |
| 23:27.55 | KAIRE | but where? |
| 23:28.09 | JeffM2501 | in the place that says "Enter the name of this game: *" |
| 23:28.25 | JeffM2501 | field number 5 |
| 23:29.01 | KAIRE | I have put I have put KAIRE BUT NN ME FROM PERCHE? |
| 23:29.23 | JeffM2501 | I do not understand that |
| 23:30.56 | KAIRE | THEN I HAVE PUT THE NAME AND HAVE PUT KAIRE BUT NN WANTS ACETTARE TO ME LIKE NEVER? |
| 23:32.38 | spldart | Hrm. The great ' |
| 23:32.45 | spldart | got' is not appeased |
| 23:32.54 | JeffM2501 | spldart, not now |
| 23:34.22 | *** join/#bzflag NICOLA3333 (n=57078fcc@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:34.31 | NICOLA3333 | IM KAIRE |
| 23:34.50 | JeffM2501 | can you see my private message to you? |
| 23:35.26 | JeffM2501 | I have made your account for you |
| 23:35.34 | JeffM2501 | but I must give you your password |
| 23:35.35 | NICOLA3333 | HOW? |
| 23:35.45 | JeffM2501 | do you see my name at the bottom of your window |
| 23:36.50 | JeffM2501 | click it |
| 23:43.28 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (n=gnurdux@c-69-251-252-148.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.25 | *** join/#bzflag Theme97 (n=Theme97@about/essy/phpwriter/Theme97) |
| 23:48.27 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 23:48.27 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v orchid] by ChanServ |
| 23:49.55 | NICOLA3333 | bye bye |
| 23:52.01 | JeffM2501 | good lord, language barrier, and an idiot.... |
| 23:58.03 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 23:58.39 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (n=shorty11@unaffiliated/shorty114) |