| 00:21.03 | Flash | anybody know a handy "number of days between two dates" calculator? |
| 00:21.21 | JeffM2501 | a pencel and a paper |
| 00:22.09 | donny_baker | excel |
| 00:22.23 | Flash | donny_baker: thanks, that will work |
| 00:22.27 | Flash | stupid taxes... |
| 00:23.11 | donny_baker | its just a simple subtraction.... ned to format the result as a number though... otherwise it shows as a wierd looking date |
| 00:23.48 | CBG | Flash: date2 - date1 + month1length |
| 00:24.06 | CBG | that'll work if the dates only span one month, anyway. |
| 00:24.12 | Flash | not quite |
| 00:24.35 | Flash | I'm getting 37881 for dec - apr; need to calc days... I think theres a func for that |
| 00:24.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@*.cdif.cable.ntl.com] by JeffM2501 |
| 00:25.00 | CBG | JeffM2501: that ban was still set? :/ |
| 00:25.04 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:25.18 | JeffM2501 | I based it on hostmask |
| 00:25.21 | JeffM2501 | you have a cloack now |
| 00:25.30 | CBG | Ah, and I didn't before? |
| 00:25.36 | JeffM2501 | guess not |
| 00:26.27 | donny_baker | flash: works fine for me... the result should be the number of days |
| 00:26.37 | CBG | Odd, I didn't identify or anything whilst banned... |
| 00:26.52 | JeffM2501 | dunno |
| 00:26.54 | JeffM2501 | don't realy care |
| 00:27.02 | CBG | Flash: 37881 what? |
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| 00:27.41 | donny_baker | date1 = '12/1/2005' date2 = 4/12/2006' date2 - date 1 = 132 |
| 00:28.02 | philbrick34 | hey |
| 00:28.19 | Flash | that's not right |
| 00:28.26 | philbrick34 | ? |
| 00:28.33 | Flash | nearly 8 months * 30 days > 240 days |
| 00:28.41 | Flash | oh... nevermind |
| 00:28.42 | philbrick34 | ? |
| 00:28.45 | philbrick34 | lol |
| 00:28.48 | CBG | Heh... |
| 00:28.49 | donny_baker | my example is dec to april |
| 00:28.50 | Flash | I was looking for 12 2006 |
| 00:29.05 | Flash | what version of excel? |
| 00:29.17 | donny_baker | 2000 (XP) |
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| 00:29.32 | philbrick34 | donny i have a question |
| 00:29.36 | Flash | ok, I'm running 2004 (Mac). Maybe they "enhanced" it |
| 00:29.43 | donny_baker | go ahead |
| 00:29.54 | donny_baker | flash:lol |
| 00:30.04 | Flash | however, the "days360" function is close enough |
| 00:30.04 | philbrick34 | why do you have me banned on all lou man servers? |
| 00:30.23 | donny_baker | uhm... cheat client i think... i can look |
| 00:30.50 | Flash | donny_baker: my mouse is starting to fail... that explains it |
| 00:30.55 | donny_baker | and last i checked you were on the maserban list too |
| 00:31.00 | philbrick34 | i klnow but that was like a year ago and we got a new intenet ip adress and i cant play now:( |
| 00:31.09 | Flash | the formula was =B1+B1-A1 |
| 00:31.24 | Flash | the addition was due to inadvertent double click |
| 00:31.25 | philbrick34 | i just want to be able to play lou man servers:( |
| 00:31.46 | donny_baker | well if your still on the masterban.... it won't help anyway |
| 00:31.55 | donny_baker | let me look |
| 00:32.13 | philbrick34 | i know but i just want you to unban me from lou man..i dont care if it does not do anythings |
| 00:33.12 | philbrick34 | and i wasnt using a cheat client...my computer still does what was happening and whenever it does it now i restart my computer and make sure i dont play like that |
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| 00:33.28 | philbrick34 | i still dont know what it is but i found out how to cure it! |
| 00:34.09 | JeffM2501 | it will tell you who baned you when yout ry to join |
| 00:34.16 | donny_baker | ill unban you, but it will be on a probationary basis... |
| 00:34.28 | donny_baker | jeffm2501: I did, i remember it well |
| 00:34.30 | philbrick34 | whats that mean? |
| 00:34.31 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 00:35.18 | philbrick34 | my new call sign is "Grand Hustla" |
| 00:35.34 | philbrick34 | incasew you need it |
| 00:35.39 | JeffM2501 | he does not |
| 00:35.43 | philbrick34 | k |
| 00:36.56 | JeffM2501 | philbrick34, you were masterbaned for cheating on multiple servers |
| 00:37.04 | JeffM2501 | that means a ban from every server |
| 00:37.17 | JeffM2501 | you state you were not cheating? |
| 00:37.32 | philbrick34 | i know but i wasnt cheating, my computer was screwed up but i fixed it |
| 00:37.39 | JeffM2501 | how did you fix it? |
| 00:37.42 | JeffM2501 | what did you change? |
| 00:38.20 | philbrick34 | when i go onto a server where it says "press i to play" or whatever that blinks really fast so i just restart my computer and it fixes it |
| 00:38.38 | philbrick34 | it still does it and i dont know what it is |
| 00:38.43 | JeffM2501 | that would not cause the behavor seen. |
| 00:39.04 | philbrick34 | no but when i didnt know what it was i would play like it was normal |
| 00:39.16 | philbrick34 | so thats where people saw me |
| 00:39.21 | donny_baker | did your friend ever tell you where he got that client he sent you? |
| 00:39.26 | JeffM2501 | "your computer" would not cause taht behavor |
| 00:39.32 | JeffM2501 | who did you get the client from? |
| 00:39.36 | donny_baker | iirc you were waiting for an e-mail back from him |
| 00:40.05 | philbrick34 | i downloaded it recently agian from bzflag.org i think it is sourceforge and it still does it |
| 00:40.16 | donny_baker | at least you told us last time that someone gave you a client.. and it wasn't your computer |
| 00:40.18 | JeffM2501 | who gave you your first client? |
| 00:40.43 | philbrick34 | but i think now it is in my compuer becuase ive downloaded it from multiple sites and it been the same |
| 00:40.55 | JeffM2501 | who gave you your first client |
| 00:41.02 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker can not get you off masterban |
| 00:41.03 | JeffM2501 | I can |
| 00:41.13 | JeffM2501 | if you realy mean to say you wern't cheating, please answer our questions |
| 00:41.21 | philbrick34 | okay |
| 00:41.21 | JeffM2501 | otherwise we'll know your pulling our legs |
| 00:41.36 | JeffM2501 | I'm willing to give you the benifit of the doubt, but you must be honest with me. |
| 00:42.10 | philbrick34 | the first time i ever downloaded it my friend sent it to me by email but that was two years ago, and ive tried downloading it from other sites too but it just does the same thing |
| 00:42.25 | JeffM2501 | who was your friend |
| 00:42.27 | JeffM2501 | what is his name? |
| 00:42.43 | JeffM2501 | what name does he play by? |
| 00:43.05 | philbrick34 | he was kid from school and he doesnt play anymore |
| 00:43.12 | JeffM2501 | that is not what I asked |
| 00:43.14 | philbrick34 | he played for like a week |
| 00:43.16 | donny_baker | so a name won't hurt |
| 00:43.29 | Flash | philbrick34: you need to establish some credibility. don't evade the questions |
| 00:43.31 | JeffM2501 | our logs show exactly what you were doing |
| 00:43.36 | philbrick34 | his name was like "juanga69" i think |
| 00:43.57 | JeffM2501 | and how do you epxlain you aperantly cheating from more then one machine? |
| 00:43.58 | philbrick34 | nnonononon it was |
| 00:44.01 | JeffM2501 | on difrent IPs |
| 00:44.22 | philbrick34 | the names was like |
| 00:44.39 | philbrick34 | the name was like |
| 00:44.44 | JeffM2501 | here we go |
| 00:44.50 | philbrick34 | ronanator..somethign |
| 00:45.00 | JeffM2501 | not much of a friend if you can't remember his name |
| 00:45.12 | philbrick34 | and i had the same computer we just got wireless internet recenlty |
| 00:45.13 | JeffM2501 | masterban means you were hitng more then one server |
| 00:45.29 | JeffM2501 | why would you have gone from server to server after people told you to stop what you were doing? |
| 00:45.41 | philbrick34 | well yeah because i though it was normal that my tank was going fast |
| 00:45.51 | JeffM2501 | even after people told you it wasn't |
| 00:45.54 | JeffM2501 | in the game? |
| 00:46.03 | philbrick34 | it wasnt until i went to like the third sserver someone finally noticed |
| 00:46.17 | JeffM2501 | well that statement is BS I know it |
| 00:46.23 | philbrick34 | ? |
| 00:46.32 | JeffM2501 | you were talked to about it extensivly |
| 00:46.39 | JeffM2501 | by one of the project admins |
| 00:46.49 | JeffM2501 | why did you continue after you knew? |
| 00:47.12 | philbrick34 | yeah, someone finally told me, i didnt know how to fix it and i th9ought they were jusst being stupid to me, and i was a noob so i thought it was normal |
| 00:47.32 | JeffM2501 | that is not what happend |
| 00:47.33 | philbrick34 | because i didnt think it was a big deal, but now i know it was, and i regret it |
| 00:47.47 | JeffM2501 | you were warned that you would be banned before you were banned |
| 00:48.04 | philbrick34 | what do you mean |
| 00:48.27 | JeffM2501 | the admin that banned you was on the server you were on talking to you |
| 00:48.35 | JeffM2501 | masterbans are not done with out warning |
| 00:48.39 | philbrick34 | bt like i said, i didnt thinkit was a big deal, because to me every one elses tanks we goign fats too |
| 00:48.51 | philbrick34 | fast* |
| 00:49.27 | JeffM2501 | once the admin told you this was not the case, why did you continue? |
| 00:49.32 | JeffM2501 | on multiple servers |
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| 00:49.42 | JeffM2501 | and wny come back nearly a month later? |
| 00:49.46 | philbrick34 | because i wanted to play bz flag, i love bz |
| 00:49.51 | JeffM2501 | why did you not try to resolve it right then? |
| 00:50.00 | brlcad | two months |
| 00:50.08 | JeffM2501 | that's right it's january :) |
| 00:50.14 | JeffM2501 | why so long there ? |
| 00:50.20 | philbrick34 | lo9ng? |
| 00:50.23 | philbrick34 | long?* |
| 00:50.30 | JeffM2501 | it has been nearly 2 months since you were banned |
| 00:50.44 | philbrick34 | okay? |
| 00:50.47 | JeffM2501 | why did you not try to resolve the issue right then |
| 00:50.50 | philbrick34 | what was your question>? |
| 00:51.06 | JeffM2501 | why wait 2 months to just now start fixing a "techincal" issue |
| 00:51.06 | philbrick34 | what do you mean resolve? |
| 00:51.22 | brlcad | two months to the day, he was global listed after being banned on at least three other public servers for cheating abuse |
| 00:51.22 | JeffM2501 | contact us to get unbaned, and fix your computer problem |
| 00:51.42 | donny_baker | and you were here last month talking to us.. and all we wanted was a name and you wouldn't give it to us... you wouldn't give it then |
| 00:51.51 | philbrick34 | because i stopped playing bzflag because i had been busy with family and when i came back i was on there for hours asking people to help me but no wone was |
| 00:51.52 | JeffM2501 | if it was just a mistake and you were not cheating, why not talk to us to fix the problem sooner |
| 00:52.01 | JeffM2501 | on where? |
| 00:52.06 | JeffM2501 | we have fourms |
| 00:52.10 | JeffM2501 | we have this chat room |
| 00:52.20 | philbrick34 | i started a forum too, and i was in thisa chat |
| 00:52.23 | JeffM2501 | we have techicnal suport site on sourceforge |
| 00:52.28 | brlcad | "computer problem"? .. somehow out of thousands of players, his does things to bzflag that nobody else's does? |
| 00:52.41 | JeffM2501 | here's the deal philbrick34 I don't belive you |
| 00:52.46 | JeffM2501 | your story isn't matching up |
| 00:52.53 | philbrick34 | ill send you my bzflag file, and you can check through it for client cheats |
| 00:52.56 | JeffM2501 | tell me why I should |
| 00:53.01 | JeffM2501 | that would prove nothing |
| 00:53.07 | JeffM2501 | as you can just use another |
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| 00:53.50 | JeffM2501 | register a global login name |
| 00:53.52 | philbrick34 | what? |
| 00:53.58 | philbrick34 | how |
| 00:54.07 | JeffM2501 | convince a server to give you a whitelist exemption, and then play nice for a couple weeks, then we'll see about it. |
| 00:54.10 | JeffM2501 | on the fourms |
| 00:54.25 | JeffM2501 | the same fourms you used to get to that nice webchat interface your using. |
| 00:54.26 | philbrick34 | aleright so how do i do this white list thing |
| 00:54.50 | JeffM2501 | you have to contact a server owner that you cheated on and convince them your a good guy now |
| 00:55.04 | philbrick34 | okay i will |
| 00:55.07 | brlcad | provide them your global login name, and request to be put on the whitelist |
| 00:55.15 | philbrick34 | where can i get hold of inleage and boxywar |
| 00:55.20 | JeffM2501 | read the fourms |
| 00:55.30 | JeffM2501 | the owners have posted there info |
| 00:55.46 | philbrick34 | so i go to the forums..and then do what again? |
| 00:55.51 | JeffM2501 | read |
| 00:55.55 | philbrick34 | read what |
| 00:56.09 | JeffM2501 | the servers section |
| 00:56.13 | philbrick34 | alright |
| 00:56.38 | philbrick34 | now what] |
| 00:56.40 | philbrick34 | im there |
| 00:56.42 | brlcad | TimRiker: heh, what exactly would that be? :) |
| 00:56.55 | donny_baker | IF the masterban gets lifted... look me up Phil and I will give you another chance... until then you will stay banned on louman and norang servers |
| 00:57.12 | philbrick34 | alright |
| 00:57.20 | JeffM2501 | philbrick34, I'm not going to walk you thru it, find the owners of the servers, and send them a message, you'll have to do the work and figure it out yourself |
| 00:57.26 | JeffM2501 | that's the part of earning faith again |
| 00:57.35 | JeffM2501 | you've just not given me any rason to trust you |
| 00:57.41 | philbrick34 | hahah alright, ill be back later! |
| 00:57.47 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you will be |
| 00:57.48 | philbrick34 | thanks sooo much everyone |
| 00:57.54 | brlcad | good luck |
| 00:57.57 | philbrick34 | thanks |
| 00:58.31 | bryjen | Mmm raisins... |
| 00:58.34 | JeffM2501 | riiiiggghhhhtttttt |
| 00:59.02 | JeffM2501 | you know my comptuer was acking funny, and it made me commit buggy code. |
| 00:59.10 | donny_baker | lol |
| 00:59.14 | brlcad | yeah, entirely unbelievable smothered in ignorance or manipulation |
| 00:59.30 | JeffM2501 | he's not a new user |
| 00:59.40 | JeffM2501 | speach pattern matches some paintball kid that IMs me all the time |
| 00:59.42 | donny_baker | and I was trying to be the nice guy... but he just couldn't get his act together |
| 01:00.06 | JeffM2501 | heck, even just a "yes I cheated, sorry can I have another shot" would have worked for me |
| 01:01.10 | donny_baker | yep... people can change, they can always have a second shot if they are sorry (but never a third :E ) |
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| 01:02.49 | brlcad | the global ban list isn't about giving shots (that's server's job) so much as it is about keeping the peace, for which he instilled practically no good faith trust that he wasn't going to cause more trouble |
| 01:03.17 | brlcad | it did smack of a cell somewhat, but cell couldn't have held it together that long I fear |
| 01:03.30 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't cell |
| 01:03.39 | JeffM2501 | wonder if it was that guy who hated women |
| 01:03.48 | brlcad | hah |
| 01:03.54 | bryjen | mikey? |
| 01:03.59 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 01:04.02 | JeffM2501 | mikeeusa |
| 01:04.07 | brlcad | doubt it, but easy enough to test.. :) |
| 01:05.09 | Erroneous | heh |
| 01:06.32 | TimRiker | yeah, cell would have parted with a long stream of CAPS and obcenities. He at least stayed calm. That's something. |
| 01:06.48 | JeffM2501 | now to see how many places check the flag of the shot :) |
| 01:34.34 | CBG | I got a little "bug" report. Not so much a bug, but an annoyance that seems to serve no purpose... |
| 01:34.49 | CBG | When you die, the scorelist is shown, whether it was hidden or not before. |
| 01:35.01 | CBG | You can't hide it until you spawn again. |
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| 01:35.16 | CBG | Why, I have no idea. But I assure you, it drives me mad at times. |
| 01:35.40 | CBG | Often, it will block the chat window and radar too, that sucks. |
| 01:36.01 | CBG | I'd like the option of showing/hiding it when I am dead, just like when I am alive. |
| 01:36.32 | JeffM2501 | I think that's intentional |
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| 01:36.40 | JeffM2501 | to show you the score while your in limbo |
| 01:36.46 | JeffM2501 | a number of FPS games do it |
| 01:36.50 | CBG | Why force it on the player? |
| 01:36.55 | JeffM2501 | but I could see there being an option for it |
| 01:36.56 | JeffM2501 | so they can pick |
| 01:37.01 | CBG | Yep. :) |
| 01:37.15 | CBG | I often like to read and type messages, etc when I'm dead... |
| 01:37.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:37.44 | CBG | It can be a real pita if the scorelist is blocking a lot and you can't do anything about it but spawn and try to do whatever you need to before you get shot again. |
| 01:37.53 | JeffM2501 | well the score should never go over the chat, that's just bad UI |
| 01:38.24 | CBG | Yeah, true. I have the max size (with the GUI menu anyway) radar + chat window though. |
| 01:38.29 | a_meteorite | brad: ping |
| 01:40.09 | CBG | Also, now, this is just a really nifty thing I'd love to see but am not holding out for, it'd be cool if you could scroll through a message you have typed one word at a time, as opposed to a char at a time. |
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| 01:40.43 | CBG | You can do this on all OSs, I imagine. It's Alt+ArrowKey on Mac, Ctrl+ArrowKey on Win, iirc. |
| 01:41.06 | CBG | If it was possible to implement that into the game... :) |
| 01:52.02 | brad | a_meteorite: yeah? |
| 01:52.18 | a_meteorite | brad: you have a european server, right? |
| 01:52.36 | a_meteorite | yeah :) |
| 01:52.40 | brad | :) |
| 01:52.53 | a_meteorite | is there a way plosileague can have a space on it for official match and replay? |
| 01:53.16 | brad | I don't see why not |
| 01:53.26 | brad | so yeah |
| 01:53.52 | a_meteorite | #plosileague if you want or we can discuss it here... |
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| 01:56.02 | JeffM2501 | hmm if this works, I'll have to make a sample plugin for it |
| 01:56.10 | JeffM2501 | ShockwaveArena :) |
| 01:57.34 | spldart | Sounds vicious |
| 01:59.35 | JeffM2501 | cept it crashes every time I shoot :) |
| 02:00.26 | inchworm | that's a productivity feature? |
| 02:00.35 | DTRemenak | yay crash! |
| 02:00.58 | donny_baker | must be your client causing bad code :D |
| 02:01.03 | CBG | At least it's not burning... right? |
| 02:01.12 | DTRemenak | mmm, burning |
| 02:01.20 | CBG | nah, he has a prblem with his pc, donny_baker |
| 02:01.41 | donny_baker | oh.. right that was it :P |
| 02:01.41 | CBG | he'll be back in 2 months to ask how he can fix it. :P |
| 02:01.47 | JeffM2501 | no, I'm derefrencing the tank flag that dosn't exist |
| 02:01.58 | CBG | of course. :| |
| 02:02.17 | JeffM2501 | hmm maybe it was a bad idea to store the efective shot inside the flag |
| 02:02.53 | JeffM2501 | hmm no, I keep that in the player |
| 02:02.54 | JeffM2501 | good for me |
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| 02:05.53 | CBG | w |
| 02:07.09 | JeffM2501 | oooo the strat is like not inited :) |
| 02:10.55 | JeffM2501 | cus the shotType wasn't inited :) |
| 02:11.15 | donny_baker | a |
| 02:15.05 | donny_baker | well that didn't go well... just compiled 2.6 kernel for debian.. and am having serial problems that wont let it boot :( |
| 02:16.03 | a_meteorite | 2.6 kernel on debian freezes on boot here |
| 02:16.32 | a_meteorite | k6-2 400mhz, 256MB, Seagate and WD HDs |
| 02:16.37 | CBG | n |
| 02:16.46 | inchworm | i've had issues with compiling working kernels on debian too...but i've since quite tried doing that and just modify the modules that get loaded |
| 02:16.48 | a_meteorite | so I've just stuck with an optimized k6 2.4 kernel |
| 02:19.07 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen.bzflag.org:5154 |
| 02:19.32 | CBG | g |
| 02:33.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/include/ (Flag.h Protocol.h ShotUpdate.h bzfsAPI.h): split the shot type out from the flag, have the server tell the client what type of shot it can fire |
| 02:34.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/ (25 files in 4 dirs): split the shot type out from the flag, have the server tell the client what type of shot it can fire |
| 02:34.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ShockwaveArena/ (6 files): Shockwaves all the time |
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| 02:37.03 | spldart | Oh... I'm good! |
| 02:37.05 | CBG | s |
| 02:50.46 | spldart | brb |
| 02:51.32 | CBG | ! |
| 02:51.38 | a_meteorite | ~n |
| 02:51.50 | ibot | i heard n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
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| 03:03.03 | brad | JeffM2501: errors compiling latest 2.1 cvs.. |
| 03:03.04 | brad | bzfsMessages.cxx:733: error: invalid initialization of non-const reference of type 'PlayerState&' from a temporary of type 'PlayerState' |
| 03:03.08 | brad | bzfsMessages.h:87: error: in passing argument 2 of `void playerStateToAPIState(bz_PlayerUpdateState&, PlayerState&)' |
| 03:04.27 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 03:04.49 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 03:05.01 | brad | debian linux |
| 03:05.19 | JeffM2501 | pfft, who needs linux server support anyway |
| 03:06.10 | brad | I guess you're right... the future of bz hosting lies in windows |
| 03:06.23 | JeffM2501 | are you kidding |
| 03:06.29 | JeffM2501 | dude it's all about the roomba servers |
| 03:06.53 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 03:07.08 | JeffM2501 | I don't think they had that OS in WWII |
| 03:07.10 | a_meteorite | I think that explains me |
| 03:07.16 | brad | >_> |
| 03:07.33 | a_meteorite | Gates was born sooner than most think. |
| 03:07.43 | a_meteorite | That was his secret project for Germany. |
| 03:07.56 | JeffM2501 | riiigggghhhht |
| 03:08.44 | spldart | I had some interesting errors on 2.1 debian linux too |
| 03:08.45 | a_meteorite | the codename was "bullets in your window" |
| 03:08.54 | JeffM2501 | oh I'm sure it's something stupid |
| 03:08.56 | JeffM2501 | I'm looking now |
| 03:08.57 | spldart | haven't tried it yet though |
| 03:09.13 | spldart | I just built bzfs, bzadmin, debug, plugins |
| 03:09.22 | spldart | I'm goin to see if the bzfs works |
| 03:10.52 | JeffM2501 | I just need some consts I think |
| 03:12.43 | spldart | NM.. bzfs didn't build but bzadmin did |
| 03:12.44 | spldart | hehe |
| 03:12.56 | spldart | thought make was done a bit fast hehe |
| 03:13.06 | JeffM2501 | in the functions playerStateToAPIState and APIStateToplayerState add const after the , in the params list and try that |
| 03:13.21 | JeffM2501 | and in the header |
| 03:15.48 | brad | bzfsMessage.h? |
| 03:15.55 | brad | bzfsMessages.h? |
| 03:16.03 | spldart | ? |
| 03:16.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:16.13 | brad | k |
| 03:16.14 | spldart | I don't know which file either.. |
| 03:16.14 | spldart | oh |
| 03:16.15 | spldart | ok |
| 03:16.27 | JeffM2501 | I'm commiting |
| 03:16.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsMessages.cxx bzfsMessages.h): add some const for the stuff that dosnt' change. |
| 03:20.48 | spldart | I hope I did that right... if not I'll wait about an hour and a half and just grab the your recent commit |
| 03:21.01 | JeffM2501 | does it take that long? |
| 03:21.21 | spldart | Last time I timed it it was 1:15 to 1:25 |
| 03:21.28 | spldart | But who knows if that's a constant |
| 03:21.33 | spldart | for server sync |
| 03:22.39 | spldart | attempting the build again though :) |
| 03:23.31 | spldart | theirs a bit of data between the functions you quoted and the comma I'm suppossed to add the const after correct? |
| 03:24.17 | brad | -void playerStateToAPIState ( bz_PlayerUpdateState &apiState, PlayerState &playerState ) |
| 03:24.19 | brad | +void playerStateToAPIState ( bz_PlayerUpdateState &apiState, const PlayerState &playerState ) |
| 03:24.20 | Guu | No idea, brad. |
| 03:24.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:24.57 | JeffM2501 | in the .h and cxx |
| 03:25.18 | brad | seems to be working so far.... still make-ing though |
| 03:26.37 | JeffM2501 | oops |
| 03:27.04 | spldart | I don't like the sound of that |
| 03:27.14 | JeffM2501 | so like when you pick up a GM |
| 03:27.17 | JeffM2501 | and then drop it |
| 03:27.21 | JeffM2501 | you still shoot GMS |
| 03:27.25 | brad | cool |
| 03:27.48 | brad | then you can go grab a wings flag and be unstoppable |
| 03:27.50 | spldart | oooooops |
| 03:28.13 | spldart | "yes again... without the oops" |
| 03:28.17 | spldart | hehehe |
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| 03:30.24 | brad | yeah it worked |
| 03:33.51 | spldart | I think I bunked mine so I'll just wait and resnapshot the code |
| 03:34.01 | brad | cvs is already updated btw |
| 03:34.06 | spldart | really? |
| 03:34.06 | brad | only takes like 5 mins |
| 03:34.09 | spldart | super fast now |
| 03:34.12 | brad | maybe less |
| 03:35.14 | spldart | I'm uupdating |
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| 04:13.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): API event for droped flags. fixes for seting shot types |
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| 04:17.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): spelling |
| 04:17.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/MSVC/VC71/bzadmin.vcproj: need the synced clock to link in server link |
| 04:24.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ShockwaveArena/ShockwaveArena.cpp: handle the drop event. |
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| 04:25.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): build SWA on nix |
| 04:26.56 | JeffM2501 | that should do it |
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| 04:35.37 | spldart | meh... that was head code wasn't it |
| 04:35.56 | spldart | .... I shoulda waited |
| 04:36.34 | JeffM2501 | I tested the plugin, it even works :) |
| 04:36.57 | spldart | What's the comman? cvs update -dP ? |
| 04:36.58 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.04 | JeffM2501 | laser as the default weapon anyone? |
| 04:37.10 | spldart | oooo |
| 04:39.11 | JeffM2501 | or burrow with SW :) |
| 04:40.01 | a_meteorite | LOL |
| 04:40.35 | JeffM2501 | the sample plugin makes it all shockwaves all the time |
| 04:40.39 | JeffM2501 | regardless of flag |
| 04:40.48 | a_meteorite | sweet |
| 04:40.57 | JeffM2501 | so all the flag effects that don't change the shot type are still in effect |
| 04:40.57 | a_meteorite | can you see your own changed shot type now? |
| 04:40.59 | tannerld | cool |
| 04:41.02 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 04:41.05 | a_meteorite | great |
| 04:41.10 | JeffM2501 | it's sent on the flag pickup |
| 04:41.17 | a_meteorite | now we are gonna get to do so many things... |
| 04:41.35 | JeffM2501 | tho this does break most of l4m3rs plugins |
| 04:41.44 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 04:42.37 | JeffM2501 | now to do the death effects |
| 04:42.48 | tannerld | lol |
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| 04:45.25 | spldart | growl.... brad... I'm not getting the commit yet and I re grabbed head after yah... snarl |
| 04:45.36 | spldart | wazzup wit dat? |
| 04:45.41 | brad | dunno |
| 04:45.51 | brad | want me to give you the modded files? |
| 04:46.04 | spldart | well.. he just made some more commits so ill wait till late and retry cvs... |
| 04:46.10 | brad | k |
| 04:46.12 | spldart | Nah.. hehe don't worry but thank you |
| 04:46.27 | spldart | I'm just complaining cuz I like to :) |
| 04:46.36 | brad | :) |
| 04:46.39 | brad | dont we all |
| 04:48.07 | blast007 | brad: I hate complaining! I think it should all stop! |
| 04:48.18 | brad | heh |
| 04:48.19 | blast007 | </complaining> |
| 04:48.21 | brad | ~lart blast007 |
| 04:48.35 | bryjen | oh wow. that plugin + PZ = normal shots when normal, but SW when zoned :) |
| 04:48.54 | blast007 | heh |
| 04:48.59 | JeffM2501 | oh yeah, PZ is "special" |
| 04:49.11 | spldart | I'm actually kinda happy right now.. came up with an ingenious way to mount a massive, compared to stock, HSF to my northbridge on my little old project computer.. I call it 'whim'... BTW Nightstand machine is called 'muse' |
| 04:49.18 | JeffM2501 | there is an overide |
| 04:49.27 | JeffM2501 | that forces shots to "normal" when not zoned |
| 04:49.38 | JeffM2501 | hmm, wonder what I can do with that |
| 04:49.44 | spldart | OOooOOOOoo |
| 04:50.10 | JeffM2501 | realy should let the server just change the shot type on zone. |
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| 06:07.50 | L4m3r | hm? |
| 06:08.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (299 files in 36 dirs): |
| 06:08.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: ws. lots and lots of ws. in particular, reconstruct leading line tabbings |
| 06:08.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: according to the format spec, remove additional trailing newlines at eof, ensure |
| 06:08.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: a newline at eof, reduce consecutive empty lines, and eliminate any trailing ws. |
| 06:08.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: no style changes applied. |
| 06:08.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (235 files in 19 dirs): |
| 06:08.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: ws. lots and lots of ws. in particular, reconstruct leading line tabbings |
| 06:08.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: according to the format spec, remove additional trailing newlines at eof, ensure |
| 06:08.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: a newline at eof, reduce consecutive empty lines, and eliminate any trailing ws. |
| 06:08.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: no style changes applied. |
| 06:08.51 | *** part/#bzflag H0ley (n=H0ley@adsl-69-228-210-78.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 06:09.48 | L4m3r | LOL |
| 06:09.57 | L4m3r | ~brlcad++ |
| 06:10.32 | L4m3r | be sure to omit today from any CVS stats :P |
| 06:12.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/ws.sh: whoopsie.. didn't mean to commit my version of ws.sh |
| 06:13.48 | purple_cow | looks like brlcad has joined my "solvin' the hard problems" club |
| 06:13.57 | brlcad | hehe |
| 06:14.03 | mbfg | copyright? |
| 06:14.39 | brlcad | copyright? |
| 06:16.29 | mbfg | updating the copyright for the new year :) |
| 06:16.38 | brlcad | ahhh heh yup |
| 06:17.41 | brlcad | got a good "hard problem" under way, but don't want to commit partial till it's at least at a minimally stable/useful point |
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| 06:22.01 | fiberchunks | allo |
| 06:22.18 | mbfg | hmmm does shield still only have 1 life (ie non- configurable?) |
| 06:22.25 | mbfg | seems like it needs some steroids |
| 06:22.30 | brlcad | it's configurable |
| 06:22.34 | mbfg | is it? |
| 06:22.46 | brlcad | yeah, there's a var for it iirc |
| 06:23.24 | mbfg | BZDB? /me looks |
| 06:24.04 | mbfg | well, if it's configurable.. seems like DT should add some shield graphics :) |
| 06:25.21 | brlcad | hmmm.. can't seem to find it myself, but I've seen it before |
| 06:25.51 | mbfg | man, i got to re-learn visual studio |
| 06:26.03 | short_circuit | ~brlcad++ |
| 06:26.13 | short_circuit | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 06:26.33 | brlcad | mbfg: or stick with eclipse? :) |
| 06:26.39 | mbfg | i wish |
| 06:26.40 | brlcad | what's your java ide? |
| 06:26.45 | mbfg | yup eclipse |
| 06:26.50 | brlcad | ahh |
| 06:27.25 | purple_cow | are there java IDEs that aren't eclipse? |
| 06:27.42 | purple_cow | everyone I know who used sun has moved since |
| 06:27.45 | mbfg | intellij is very popular |
| 06:27.49 | mbfg | but you have to pay for it |
| 06:27.57 | mbfg | except for open source projects |
| 06:28.02 | mbfg | eclipse is free |
| 06:28.10 | mbfg | and is very sweet, imo |
| 06:28.41 | mbfg | there's netbeans, but i don't think it's that popular |
| 06:28.46 | purple_cow | of course, most people I know who used java have moved since ;-) |
| 06:28.46 | mbfg | and oracle has somethign too |
| 06:28.54 | brlcad | yeah, intellij is "mostly" the choice at work |
| 06:29.03 | mbfg | well, i'm a crusty old codger |
| 06:29.09 | mbfg | and i don't move to quickly |
| 06:29.47 | mbfg | SHEILDFLIGHT is the only think i see |
| 06:29.59 | mbfg | which is the toss height, i think on shield hit |
| 06:31.05 | brlcad | yeah, i'm still looking |
| 06:31.11 | purple_cow | that's a ridiculously silly thing to be able to configure |
| 06:31.21 | brlcad | I know I've seen it in the game... |
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| 06:31.27 | brlcad | maybe a plugin mod, hrmph |
| 06:31.33 | mbfg | meaning it's silly to configure that, or it's silly that it's not configurable |
| 06:31.41 | purple_cow | silly to configure that |
| 06:33.04 | brlcad | meh, why not |
| 06:33.27 | brlcad | set it to 100, and then it could sorta serve life percentage health points |
| 06:33.32 | mbfg | doesn't seem often used by folks |
| 06:33.44 | brlcad | it is overly weak at one shot |
| 06:34.16 | mbfg | yup |
| 06:34.32 | bryjen | shield toss height is silly, or # of hits before drop, purple_cow? |
| 06:34.39 | purple_cow | toss height |
| 06:34.43 | mbfg | ah! |
| 06:34.47 | mbfg | yes that is pretty silly |
| 06:34.58 | mbfg | i guess the issue is you don't want to be able to quickly recatch it |
| 06:35.05 | mbfg | but configurable is silly |
| 06:35.12 | mbfg | except for perhaps histerical reasons |
| 06:35.21 | mbfg | shoot the flag a mile up in the sky or something |
| 06:35.33 | brlcad | ahh heh |
| 06:36.07 | brlcad | hmm.. i think it might not be limited to the shield flag |
| 06:36.24 | brlcad | bzfs_conf has a whole section dedicated to "Flag Shot Limits" for all flags |
| 06:36.52 | *** part/#bzflag A-Delusion (n=A-Delusi@pool-141-158-104-202.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:37.17 | bryjen | that does "the tank holding flag X can fire Y shots and then their flag zaps" |
| 06:37.35 | mbfg | playing.cxx seems to drop the flag before even checking what kind of flag you have |
| 06:37.42 | mbfg | (on gotBlowedUp) |
| 06:37.54 | mbfg | --still the coolest named function in the history of programmign |
| 06:39.47 | mbfg | hehe |
| 06:40.17 | mbfg | gotBlowedUp gets style points for bad grammar, tho |
| 06:40.56 | DTRemenak | shield is one hit only |
| 06:41.23 | brlcad | hrmph |
| 06:41.26 | DTRemenak | the changes for multi-hit were checked in, but...well, aren't any more ;) |
| 06:41.46 | brlcad | is it perhaps in 2.0? |
| 06:41.50 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 06:41.58 | DTRemenak | seems The Man didn't care for it |
| 06:42.16 | DTRemenak | wasn't in for long |
| 06:42.32 | mbfg | wow |
| 06:43.27 | brlcad | I swear I was on some server and shield was configured for multi-hit, distinctly remember gitting hit and seeing a message "you have # hits left" |
| 06:44.06 | brlcad | maybe i'm just being delusional, or I worked on that, or it was some mod, or i'm just off my rocker |
| 06:44.16 | mbfg | all of the above |
| 06:44.17 | brlcad | it was a while ago, over a year |
| 06:44.31 | DTRemenak | could be pluginized? |
| 06:44.35 | DTRemenak | or could have been early 2.1 |
| 06:44.45 | brlcad | i don't see how looking at playing.cxx |
| 06:44.52 | brlcad | but mebbie |
| 06:47.13 | mbfg | well, if the man said no, that splains it. |
| 06:48.06 | brlcad | i think dtr's just making that up |
| 06:48.11 | brlcad | go for it ;) |
| 06:48.14 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:48.19 | mbfg | hehe |
| 06:48.37 | brlcad | i can't imagine what his reason was other than it being incomplete |
| 06:48.51 | mbfg | well, if the hit count was > 1, you definitely some graphical representation of being hit |
| 06:48.59 | mbfg | otherwise it appears to be a lag situation |
| 06:49.05 | DTRemenak | he doesn't want it to be "like health" or something |
| 06:49.10 | mbfg | perhaps that drove the crankyness |
| 06:49.12 | DTRemenak | it's all in the irc logs |
| 06:50.27 | mbfg | at least with current, the toss height being large, is an indicator |
| 06:51.22 | brlcad | you could have fun with some graphical representation |
| 06:51.35 | mbfg | yup |
| 06:51.57 | mbfg | maybe tank gets 'the shakes' |
| 06:52.12 | brlcad | an aura the slowly fades or some heavy armor that crufts off or even something like the pause globe that becomes more transluecent |
| 06:52.23 | mbfg | yup |
| 06:52.34 | DTRemenak | crufts? that's a verb now? |
| 06:52.38 | mbfg | or modified shock wave type thing |
| 06:52.43 | DTRemenak | and here I thought it was "ablates" :) |
| 06:52.57 | brlcad | to cruft or not to cruft, that is the verb |
| 06:54.45 | fiberchunks | mmm, to cruft |
| 06:54.48 | mbfg | 'heavy armor crufting off' - /me still hopes for specialized tank weaponry graphics |
| 06:54.53 | mbfg | someday |
| 06:55.38 | brlcad | howdy fiberchunks |
| 06:55.44 | fiberchunks | allo :) |
| 06:55.49 | fiberchunks | long time no speak |
| 06:55.56 | brlcad | been a while.. the cold brought you in to the warmth of younder 'puter? :) |
| 06:56.18 | DTRemenak | ~beer fiberchunks |
| 06:56.20 | ibot | ACTION deftly decants a fine Jever for fiberchunks |
| 06:56.33 | fiberchunks | yonder puter is finally replaced and operational, and life has gotten in the way -- I long for when the parents paid for everything, and summers were spent screwing around ;) |
| 06:56.34 | mbfg | ~dict jever |
| 06:56.41 | mbfg | ~jever |
| 06:57.16 | fiberchunks | coors light tonight -- not the finest vintage, but it'll do in a pinch :) |
| 06:58.21 | fiberchunks | what's new with you hep cats? |
| 06:59.01 | purple_cow | eugh |
| 07:00.32 | brlcad | fiberchunks: not a whole lot |
| 07:00.58 | mbfg | msg mailserv |
| 07:01.07 | mbfg | oops |
| 07:01.24 | mbfg | msg mailserv help |
| 07:01.28 | brlcad | there was a distinct decline in activity after 2.0 (last january) that lasted through the fall and just started to pick back up relatively recently |
| 07:02.25 | fiberchunks | 2.0.8 eh? keyboard's broke (or it's probably this crappy hardware :) |
| 07:03.04 | fiberchunks | backing up doesn't seem to want to work when using either auto, or keyboard for input method |
| 07:03.31 | brlcad | might have to blow away your config if you're upgrading from 1.10 |
| 07:03.43 | brlcad | i think there was some upgrade bug that was never fixed |
| 07:04.06 | fiberchunks | no not upgrading, fresh install of 2.0.8 |
| 07:04.35 | fiberchunks | and I just checked -- it definitely doesn't work (but then again, I'm probably what, 1 of 3 people that use the keyboard solely for input? ) |
| 07:04.52 | brlcad | nah, I'm a keyboarder exclusively |
| 07:04.58 | fiberchunks | windows build, btw |
| 07:05.47 | a_meteorite | I use keyboard and mouse. :) |
| 07:06.12 | fiberchunks | I haven't figured out how to get ubuntu on this machine, since when I load the kernel, there is no pata_marvell driver in the kernel, and the cdrom therefore doesn't get recognized -- I think I may need a temporary IDE -> USB adapter to get 'er done |
| 07:06.30 | brlcad | fiberchunks is da man |
| 07:06.36 | a_meteorite | :) |
| 07:06.37 | fiberchunks | hrm - I wonder if that's a good, or bad thing ;) but hello to you a_meteorite |
| 07:06.46 | a_meteorite | fiberchunks: it was all good :D |
| 07:06.46 | brlcad | that "the man" but .. "da man" |
| 07:07.00 | brlcad | s/that/not/ sheesh |
| 07:07.02 | fiberchunks | shocking really |
| 07:07.19 | fiberchunks | yes, but I _was_ 'the man' for awhile, so it fits :) |
| 07:07.23 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:07.51 | fiberchunks | you still livin a little further south of me brlcad? |
| 07:08.59 | brlcad | yep, pretty much |
| 07:09.24 | brlcad | how's life closer to the great white north? |
| 07:09.31 | fiberchunks | right on -- how goes the project in it's open source incarnation? |
| 07:09.35 | fiberchunks | cold as hell :) |
| 07:09.48 | fiberchunks | that doesn't make sense -- cold as Titan -- there that's better |
| 07:10.10 | brlcad | pretty busy, going really well |
| 07:10.49 | fiberchunks | excellent -- good for you! |
| 07:11.01 | brlcad | yeah, that's been a chunk of my year actually |
| 07:11.09 | brlcad | along with getting back into rowing |
| 07:11.29 | fiberchunks | rowing as in crew, or just paddling a dinghy around? ;)\ |
| 07:11.34 | brlcad | crew ;) |
| 07:11.40 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 07:12.04 | brlcad | actually, I probably drove by your place a couple times last year now that I think about it |
| 07:12.11 | brlcad | on the way to various regattas |
| 07:12.36 | brlcad | or wait, weren't you trying to move out into the middle of bumblefsck? :) |
| 07:13.04 | fiberchunks | indeed! and it was non-sucessful -- however, florida, massachusetts, and the carolinas are now targets |
| 07:13.26 | mbfg | well, at least you have narrowed down the search to a small area |
| 07:13.41 | fiberchunks | ha |
| 07:14.03 | fiberchunks | we're trying real hard to be nomadic, but it never seems to pan out -- perhaps we need a camel? |
| 07:14.16 | brlcad | at least to a coast on a continent |
| 07:14.46 | fiberchunks | we're too afraid to try other coasts, or even things resembling passage over waterways -- so our options are limited :) |
| 07:16.58 | mbfg | well, then when you get to maryland, bear right at the pond |
| 07:17.23 | purple_cow | are you saying there's something wrong with the other coast? |
| 07:17.34 | purple_cow | granted, there *is* something wrong with most of it, but still... |
| 07:18.20 | mbfg | well, there is the concern that you're not sure where the coast will be in the next few years |
| 07:18.31 | fiberchunks | nah, there's nothing wrong with it, just the new england thing ... I think ... prevents me from overcoming my distaste for earthquakes and forest fires -- I'm comfortable with hurricanes :) |
| 07:18.56 | purple_cow | mbfg: either it'll be where it is now, or I'll have a beach outside my office |
| 07:19.27 | mbfg | nice! by low sell high |
| 07:19.34 | mbfg | s /by/buy/ |
| 07:19.53 | fiberchunks | purple_cow is into /long_term/ real estate speculation! |
| 07:20.53 | fiberchunks | how's scanline doing these days? |
| 07:21.30 | purple_cow | pretty well |
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| 07:26.45 | brlcad | every few months |
| 07:27.02 | fiberchunks | does anyone have any idea how I can determine if this issue with backing up is my keyboard, or with the code? I need my down arrow :) |
| 07:27.24 | fiberchunks | sweet -- organize one soon -- I work 2nd shift now, so nights are pretty much open if y'all are up to such a thing |
| 07:28.27 | fiberchunks | by the way, about the keyboard, turning left / right while going forward works just fine. Back by itself doesn't work at all (but the key does indeed work in any other application) |
| 07:28.30 | fiberchunks | and back / turning doesn't work either |
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| 07:30.03 | brlcad | fiberchunks: did you have a 1.10 config lying around? |
| 07:30.14 | brlcad | even if you install fresh, it'll try to upgrade the config |
| 07:30.24 | fiberchunks | no, it's a brand new machine |
| 07:30.36 | fiberchunks | and I haven't remapped the keys at all |
| 07:30.41 | brlcad | and your config file has: bind "Down Arrow" down "drive reverse" |
| 07:31.03 | fiberchunks | mmm, not sure. where is it kept under windows? |
| 07:31.17 | fiberchunks | in the application folder, or in my documents somewhere? |
| 07:31.26 | brlcad | *shrug* :) |
| 07:31.32 | brlcad | think it's in mydocs |
| 07:32.26 | fiberchunks | there's this: bind Pause down pause |
| 07:32.52 | fiberchunks | and this bind End down "scrollpanel bottom" |
| 07:33.11 | fiberchunks | oh oh, I see, I'm reading it wrong -- one second |
| 07:33.13 | brlcad | looking for the "Down Arrow" binding |
| 07:35.19 | fiberchunks | yah, didn't find it, added it, and now all it does is drive backwards :) |
| 07:35.27 | fiberchunks | but at least that's a start |
| 07:36.41 | brlcad | hrm.. not having it in the first place implies something is rather wrong with the file |
| 07:37.23 | brlcad | mebbie try quitting bz, move config to trash, restart bz .. see if it recreates it with the binding |
| 07:37.32 | fiberchunks | I'll try that now |
| 07:37.53 | fiberchunks | it's also missing a "Down Arrow" up "do something" missive |
| 07:38.06 | brlcad | there is no up binding, just down |
| 07:38.40 | bryjen | odd then, i have both :/ |
| 07:38.42 | brlcad | er, i take that back |
| 07:39.05 | brlcad | yeah, my bad |
| 07:39.27 | brlcad | might be implemented like a toggle (which would explain why it doesn't stop driving backwards |
| 07:39.28 | fiberchunks | indeed it did brlcad -- strange though how it omitted them when I initially installed it |
| 07:39.38 | brlcad | yeah, that is bizzare.. |
| 07:40.01 | brlcad | something similar happens when it finds a 1.* config |
| 07:40.22 | brlcad | you *sure* you don't have copied my docs dir or something from an earlier life?? :) |
| 07:40.37 | fiberchunks | well, unless the cats at bestbuy are into gaming, then I'm sure :) |
| 07:40.41 | brlcad | otherwise, dust bunnies.. evil evil dust bunnies |
| 07:41.02 | fiberchunks | I blame anything that ascends from the 7th layer of redmond, WA :) |
| 07:41.33 | fiberchunks | but hey! it works now. Now I remember why I spent so much time here |
| 07:42.11 | fiberchunks | now if only this crappy sigmatel audio would stop crapping out when it resumes from suspend, I'd be cool |
| 07:42.41 | brlcad | not just avoiding work and the woman? :) |
| 07:42.52 | fiberchunks | oh yeah, that, and ubuntu having a metric buttload of drivers on the liveCD by default (but the _only_ distro that has been able to do that sucessfully so far is opensuse 10.2) |
| 07:43.04 | fiberchunks | well, yeah, of course that too :) |
| 07:44.44 | fiberchunks | this survivorman dude is crazy -- he's trying to start a fire by shooting a modified bullet into some kindling? why not just remove the black powder from the shell and burn that? |
| 07:48.43 | fiberchunks | the forums look nice these days -- like the new logo. Where are they hosted now - still with nidhoggr? |
| 07:49.59 | brlcad | no, they're on a server i provide |
| 07:50.01 | brlcad | bzflag.bz |
| 07:50.15 | fiberchunks | ahhh |
| 07:51.12 | brlcad | that was another slew of activities for the year, administrating the needs for bz, server setup and config issues, performance issues, botnets, attacks, software upgrades, etc |
| 07:51.47 | fiberchunks | I bet that was a hoot :) |
| 07:53.38 | brlcad | nidhoggr had a nasty hardware failure that took services down, so we looked into migration |
| 07:53.59 | brlcad | we were already talking about replication, but the downtime pressed the issue to migrate |
| 07:54.05 | fiberchunks | really? at his location? ouch |
| 07:54.26 | brlcad | plug nid had already invested massive amount of time, money, hardware over a long time |
| 07:54.33 | fiberchunks | indeed |
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| 09:06.34 | brlcad | Tupone: bon jour no |
| 09:06.48 | Tupone | buon giorn no |
| 09:31.40 | fiberchunks | guten morgen! |
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| 13:00.26 | Torendo | hi |
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| 13:49.07 | CBG | ~JeffM2501++ |
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| 15:05.25 | CBG | What specifically should I do, when building the project, to get plugins working (on Mac 10.3.9)? |
| 15:05.35 | CBG | ./configure --enable-plugins ? |
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| 15:25.15 | short_circuit | okies... except for brad has anyone had a successful build of 2.1 head in the last 11 hours? |
| 15:26.55 | short_circuit | and if brad is still here what switches where you using in configure? |
| 15:27.44 | short_circuit | oops.. I should say head bzfs specifically |
| 15:28.47 | brad | just ./configure --disable-client |
| 15:32.44 | CBG | Will "--prefix=$HOME/070127/" install plugins, etc, in ~/070127/ ? |
| 15:34.11 | short_circuit | hrm..... |
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| 15:53.40 | short_circuit | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/fraggedmake.term |
| 15:55.47 | short_circuit | meh.. |
| 15:55.59 | short_circuit | NM... don't bother with that file.. I'm gonna work on server for a bit |
| 15:56.01 | short_circuit | it's down |
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| 16:33.53 | spldart | what was the -shockwave switch for ctf maps? hits losing teams base with sw at cap |
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| 16:45.43 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/fraggedmake.term` is back up... make any sense why I'm not building bzfs for some reason? |
| 16:46.10 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/fraggedmake.term No ' |
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| 16:54.24 | JeffM2501 | spldart you mean in the map or as a command line thingy/ |
| 17:02.01 | spldart | map |
| 17:02.12 | spldart | sry to bore yah brl ;-} |
| 17:02.24 | JeffM2501 | oncap then the flag code |
| 17:02.40 | spldart | IC thanks |
| 17:02.55 | spldart | brb... RW calls |
| 17:03.10 | brlcad | spldart: nah, just woke up |
| 17:03.32 | JeffM2501 | or just run ShockWaveArena :) |
| 17:03.45 | JeffM2501 | wonder if I should make it take a shot type |
| 17:04.13 | JeffM2501 | laser arena could be fun too |
| 17:09.09 | JeffM2501 | anyone got a map with water? |
| 17:09.17 | JeffM2501 | I'm trying to see how the water actualy kills you |
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| 17:27.31 | blast007 | is there a reason that the pause message when a player does a screenshot shows in bzadmin, but not in the graphical client? |
| 17:27.58 | JeffM2501 | cus bzadmin was writen to trap those |
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| 17:28.07 | JeffM2501 | the current 2.0.9 traps them too |
| 17:28.32 | blast007 | seems more like the client was written to ignore them |
| 17:28.50 | JeffM2501 | normaly the client dosn't care about them |
| 17:28.50 | blast007 | I'm only using 2.0.9s7 |
| 17:29.00 | blast007 | the client shows when a player pauses normally |
| 17:29.04 | blast007 | just not for the screenshot stuff |
| 17:29.09 | JeffM2501 | that's a difrent message IIRC |
| 17:29.18 | JeffM2501 | I had to add code to make the client show screenshot pauses |
| 17:29.20 | JeffM2501 | that I know |
| 17:29.25 | blast007 | hmm |
| 17:30.01 | JeffM2501 | hmmm, wonder how diffrent the game would be if it was superbullets for everyone :) |
| 17:30.19 | blast007 | just made it hard to detect a wallwalker without going to bzadmin |
| 17:30.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah, that's why I added that |
| 17:30.43 | JeffM2501 | so that normal clients can find the F5 spammers |
| 17:30.45 | blast007 | yeah, updating my CVS now |
| 17:30.52 | JeffM2501 | somone asked me to do that, I don't remember who |
| 17:31.12 | blast007 | can a plugin detect a pause event? |
| 17:31.19 | JeffM2501 | I don't know |
| 17:31.44 | blast007 | *evil thought* Limiting the maximum number of pause events ;) |
| 17:31.45 | JeffM2501 | let me go take a shower then I'll check |
| 17:33.50 | JeffM2501 | ok, nix the shower, the washing machine is on |
| 17:39.17 | spldart | hehe... after just getting out of shower |
| 17:40.46 | JeffM2501 | no there isn't a message, but I'll add one, it's easy |
| 17:42.08 | JeffM2501 | bahh I' stupid |
| 17:42.09 | JeffM2501 | there is |
| 17:42.17 | JeffM2501 | bz_ePlayerPausedEvent |
| 17:42.35 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 17:42.38 | brad | is there an unpause event? |
| 17:42.43 | JeffM2501 | same event |
| 17:42.45 | blast007 | brad: it's probably both |
| 17:42.47 | brad | ah |
| 17:42.47 | JeffM2501 | has a flag |
| 17:42.51 | brad | ok |
| 17:42.57 | blast007 | maybe I'll just kill them with I get a pause event ;) |
| 17:43.01 | blast007 | when* |
| 17:43.24 | JeffM2501 | it would be trivial to boot them when they pause and unpause more then once in a min. |
| 17:43.24 | brad | kill them if they pause for less than a second |
| 17:43.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:43.33 | blast007 | ah, yeah |
| 17:43.36 | JeffM2501 | well you'd want to check for more then one |
| 17:43.46 | blast007 | nah, just 1 |
| 17:43.46 | brad | that would be a nice plugin |
| 17:43.51 | JeffM2501 | incase somone just realy wants to take a screenshot |
| 17:43.56 | blast007 | hmm |
| 17:43.56 | brad | ah right |
| 17:44.02 | JeffM2501 | I'd do 2 |
| 17:44.07 | blast007 | but someone just used a single one to get inside a box and shoot out |
| 17:44.12 | JeffM2501 | or more then X pauses in an hour |
| 17:44.38 | JeffM2501 | maybe keep a warning |
| 17:44.53 | spldart | In case no one else has mentioned it there is a player goin by Iron Fist making a fool of himself... someone just banned him from Spiralzone but wanted to give other server owners a heads up |
| 17:45.32 | blast007 | it's sorta funny that people don't think wall walking is cheating :P |
| 17:45.34 | brad | muting him seems to be enough spldart, he didn't try and rejoin or anything |
| 17:46.08 | JeffM2501 | we need to test the F5 cheats in head, I know ts has done some, but I'd like more extensive testing. |
| 17:46.12 | spldart | He's rejoining when I saw him |
| 17:46.49 | spldart | well.. after poll ban's he rejoins.. after admin ban for 5 hours he's gone... anywho.. just a heads up |
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| 17:49.49 | CBG | Hey, anyway to stop team flags for certain teams spawning through a plugin? |
| 17:50.15 | CBG | So that, for example, you could have an attacking team (which has no flag) and a defending team (which does). |
| 17:50.18 | JeffM2501 | you can reset them now if they get picked up |
| 17:50.23 | JeffM2501 | and zap them |
| 17:50.34 | CBG | Zapping makes them vanish or just resets them? |
| 17:50.40 | JeffM2501 | but I don't think you can make them go away |
| 17:50.43 | JeffM2501 | just resets them |
| 17:50.46 | CBG | I was hoping for a more "permanent" soltuon. |
| 17:50.52 | CBG | Ok, thanks. :) |
| 17:50.52 | JeffM2501 | we don't realy have the concept of a "hidden" flag |
| 17:51.08 | JeffM2501 | if it's in the list it's somewhere |
| 17:51.26 | JeffM2501 | trying to think if I can make it where you can move the flag, and maybe put it in a box or something |
| 17:51.28 | brad | cbg, flag zone in a place they cant get to? |
| 17:51.34 | CBG | Right, well, you can make multiple team flags spawn, though maybe you could make _less_ spawn. :P |
| 17:51.48 | CBG | brad: good idea. :) |
| 17:51.53 | JeffM2501 | the multiples are added at game start |
| 17:52.05 | JeffM2501 | and I think it adds at least 1 per base |
| 17:52.21 | brad | you can have 1 flag with 2 bases |
| 17:52.52 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:53.13 | CBG | or 2 flags with one base. But evidentally you can't have less than one team flag. We'll just work around it. |
| 17:53.14 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to let the plugin define all flags one day |
| 17:53.27 | JeffM2501 | or at least be able to dynamicly create and distory them |
| 17:53.41 | brad | yeah.. that'd be great |
| 17:54.15 | CBG | Wow, this rocks.... not... 23ms jit on my own server, hosted on _this_ machine. :| |
| 17:56.25 | [NP]Tangent | haha |
| 17:56.31 | spldart | woh |
| 17:56.46 | DTRemenak | just means you're getting ~40 fps |
| 17:57.12 | DTRemenak | bzflag will take all the cpu it can ;) |
| 17:57.16 | CBG | around 45-50 |
| 17:57.28 | CBG | greedy sod :P |
| 17:58.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/date/buildDate.cxx: bump to .11, cus we bumped proto |
| 17:58.44 | DTRemenak | grr, and I JUST finished updating :) |
| 17:58.51 | JeffM2501 | no other changes |
| 17:58.56 | JeffM2501 | the proto was bumped last night |
| 17:59.07 | DTRemenak | yeah, but it means my freshly-built server is now incompatible :) |
| 17:59.09 | JeffM2501 | so your compatable |
| 17:59.13 | JeffM2501 | no you are compatable |
| 17:59.16 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 17:59.20 | JeffM2501 | you got the proto change |
| 17:59.22 | DTRemenak | proto done already |
| 17:59.23 | JeffM2501 | I forgot the version |
| 17:59.24 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:59.31 | DTRemenak | should be done at the same time on dev |
| 17:59.36 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 17:59.38 | JeffM2501 | I screwed up |
| 17:59.43 | JeffM2501 | and just remembered |
| 17:59.48 | DTRemenak | 'tis no problem |
| 18:02.39 | JeffM2501 | gives a random shot type each time :) |
| 18:02.49 | DTRemenak | eek |
| 18:03.01 | JeffM2501 | so on spawn, grab, and drop :) |
| 18:03.12 | JeffM2501 | but the flag messages are still the normal flag messages :) |
| 18:03.23 | JeffM2501 | and you still get the flag effects ( unless it's a shot flag ) |
| 18:03.38 | JeffM2501 | burrow SW is kinda fun |
| 18:03.53 | DTRemenak | kinda ful => invincible ;) |
| 18:04.00 | DTRemenak | fun even |
| 18:04.07 | JeffM2501 | mayyyybbbbeeeeee |
| 18:04.13 | JeffM2501 | GM can get ya |
| 18:05.32 | DTRemenak | hmmm...has nobody built HEAD in a long time or what? |
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| 18:07.57 | JeffM2501 | some did yesterday |
| 18:07.59 | DTRemenak | ahhh, uncommitted change :) |
| 18:08.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: installer bump to .11 |
| 18:08.37 | DTRemenak | cvs update -c Lis |
| 18:08.40 | DTRemenak | arc |
| 18:08.43 | DTRemenak | arg |
| 18:08.45 | DTRemenak | ww |
| 18:08.46 | JeffM2501 | argv |
| 18:10.58 | DTRemenak | :( someone merged changes from 2.0, but didn't tag 2.0 at the same time |
| 18:11.19 | JeffM2501 | wasn't me |
| 18:11.26 | JeffM2501 | cus I don't even know how to merge |
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| 18:11.43 | JeffM2501 | I just do the same change in both places and commit |
| 18:11.50 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:11.58 | DTRemenak | sourcesafe style ;) |
| 18:12.02 | DTRemenak | that annoys me so much |
| 18:12.10 | JeffM2501 | it's all I know how to do |
| 18:12.19 | JeffM2501 | and for my stuff it's usualy difrent code for each |
| 18:12.34 | DTRemenak | I love being able to check in on one branch, switch branches and merge the whole durn thing |
| 18:13.07 | JeffM2501 | I've changed the API so much in head, that you can't just copy and paste |
| 18:13.23 | DTRemenak | well who's fault is that? ;) |
| 18:13.24 | JeffM2501 | hmm now why won't my server go public |
| 18:13.32 | JeffM2501 | it's refactoring |
| 18:13.39 | JeffM2501 | the head API is better and more consistent |
| 18:13.43 | JeffM2501 | and spelled better |
| 18:13.51 | DTRemenak | we could release, then you wouldn't have to worry about it :) |
| 18:13.59 | mbfg | you can spell 'api' differently? |
| 18:14.13 | JeffM2501 | why do you think I'm trying to do the death thing |
| 18:14.36 | DTRemenak | aplikation programing intrephace, mbfg :) |
| 18:15.53 | JeffM2501 | damn my router to heck |
| 18:16.11 | DTRemenak | someone mind telling me where "ServerSyncedClock" is, since there's no "ServerSyncedClock.cxx"? |
| 18:16.38 | JeffM2501 | syncclock |
| 18:16.41 | JeffM2501 | in bzfs |
| 18:16.44 | JeffM2501 | sorry bzflag |
| 18:16.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah bzadmin needs it |
| 18:16.51 | DTRemenak | k, thanks |
| 18:17.09 | JeffM2501 | I added it to the VC71 but not the others |
| 18:17.18 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 18:17.23 | JeffM2501 | wanna change it? |
| 18:17.29 | JeffM2501 | or just change the class name :) |
| 18:17.31 | DTRemenak | cvs makes renames a pita |
| 18:18.19 | DTRemenak | the class name is fine, nice and descriptive |
| 18:18.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/MSVC/VC8/bzflag.vcproj: build, says I |
| 18:18.56 | JeffM2501 | do they offer the transfer service yet? |
| 18:19.00 | JeffM2501 | cus we can swap at any time |
| 18:19.02 | DTRemenak | dunno |
| 18:19.05 | JeffM2501 | that's a given |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM2501 | looks like it's up |
| 18:22.31 | JeffM2501 | aww yeah, and they even have CIA in a pulldown for hooks :) |
| 18:23.32 | DTRemenak | nice :) |
| 18:23.59 | JeffM2501 | I'd want someone who is more familiar with both systems to do the swap tho |
| 18:25.21 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.1.x/bzflag-2.1.11.exe |
| 18:25.24 | JeffM2501 | for those that want it |
| 18:25.41 | donny_baker | are there servers up? |
| 18:25.46 | JeffM2501 | one |
| 18:25.55 | JeffM2501 | I'm trying to set up another but it's being a bastard |
| 18:27.22 | donny_baker | hehe.. an uncompatable one... but at least the install package works :) |
| 18:27.37 | JeffM2501 | it's not compatable? |
| 18:27.40 | JeffM2501 | I conected to it |
| 18:28.29 | donny_baker | doh.. tried to connect to norang... crashed the first time because of firewall and didnt save the server |
| 18:28.31 | donny_baker | i connected |
| 18:29.03 | donny_baker | 8 servers now |
| 18:29.14 | JeffM2501 | ibot nslookup one.opencombat.net |
| 18:29.21 | JeffM2501 | yes, yes it is |
| 18:29.27 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:29.30 | DTRemenak | trouble? :) |
| 18:29.40 | JeffM2501 | I can't list |
| 18:29.45 | JeffM2501 | but I opened the ports |
| 18:29.55 | JeffM2501 | can you connect to me? |
| 18:30.53 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 18:31.36 | DTRemenak | just get our wonderfully descriptive "error connecting to server" message |
| 18:31.38 | donny_baker | jeffm2501: install seems to be missing some basic textures... all of the team color ones |
| 18:31.45 | *** join/#bzflag cosmol (n=dave@71.86.125.165) |
| 18:31.48 | JeffM2501 | hmm ok |
| 18:31.53 | DTRemenak | yeah, the installer hasn't been updated yet |
| 18:32.01 | DTRemenak | for the data dir reorg |
| 18:32.26 | donny_baker | hey not that im complaining the big white blocks for bullets is kinda retro looking :) |
| 18:33.01 | spldart | lmao |
| 18:33.02 | CBG | donny_baker: just use -directory /path/to/previous/data/dir :) |
| 18:33.21 | JeffM2501 | I'm fixing it now |
| 18:33.26 | donny_baker | yeah that is waht i am doing... just reporting the issue.. I can deal with it |
| 18:33.35 | JeffM2501 | I could always beg dtr to just run a server with my plugin :) |
| 18:34.04 | DTRemenak | or you could ask for a shell account on my server, and do it yourself :P |
| 18:34.21 | JeffM2501 | I never know how to build plugins on nix |
| 18:34.25 | DTRemenak | make? :) |
| 18:34.44 | DTRemenak | if you checked it in, it's all integrated with the bz build system |
| 18:34.50 | JeffM2501 | I ddn't |
| 18:35.09 | DTRemenak | mm, lovely case consistency between ShockwaveArena and shockwaveDeath ;) |
| 18:35.28 | JeffM2501 | I'm prolly gonna remove SWA |
| 18:35.32 | donny_baker | 2.1 default is to not save the password? That is great if it is true :) |
| 18:35.32 | JeffM2501 | and rename it |
| 18:36.11 | CBG | Can more plugins released on the forum be included in the project plugin dir? :) |
| 18:37.35 | DTRemenak | CBG: IIRC, our policy was to include only plugins written by people with commit access, so they'll stay up to date without requiring extra work from some other dev. |
| 18:37.54 | CBG | Ok, fair enough. |
| 18:38.19 | JeffM2501 | if some of those authors on the fourm would like to submit there plugins for commit, that may be possible tho |
| 18:38.36 | DTRemenak | if some dev wants to take responsibility for maintaining them, it's certainly possible though |
| 18:38.48 | DTRemenak | just don't look at me ;) |
| 18:39.05 | JeffM2501 | I pondered doing loumans |
| 18:39.23 | JeffM2501 | and combining them into one big one that just has a ton of custom map objects |
| 18:39.27 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:39.29 | JeffM2501 | since they don't confilct |
| 18:40.20 | JeffM2501 | hmm CIA didn't pick that up |
| 18:40.37 | CBG | The CIA are useless. |
| 18:40.45 | CBG | FBI > CIA |
| 18:40.53 | JeffM2501 | I fixed the installer |
| 18:41.30 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: I can do LouMan's if he wants them included |
| 18:41.52 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 18:42.04 | Thumper_ | I've been not commiting stuff on 2.0.x since I thought we had a freeze on that ;) |
| 18:42.21 | JeffM2501 | we do.. ish |
| 18:42.24 | Thumper_ | but if someone wants to thaw it (officially) I can backport my HEAD plugin stuff too |
| 18:42.25 | JeffM2501 | big on the ish |
| 18:42.35 | JeffM2501 | it's not a thaw |
| 18:42.36 | Thumper_ | I've work working patches for 2.0.x - just never commited them |
| 18:42.43 | JeffM2501 | what do they do? |
| 18:43.00 | DTRemenak | bugfixes and small server features are still welcome on 2.0 |
| 18:43.05 | Thumper_ | they're in HEAD - just the thiefControl plugin and some new API events to support it |
| 18:43.11 | Thumper_ | nothing earth shattering :) |
| 18:43.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah, if you ok with them posibly never being released, then commit them |
| 18:43.24 | JeffM2501 | just make sure they are also merged into head |
| 18:43.35 | Thumper_ | they're already in HEAD for 2.2 |
| 18:43.40 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:43.43 | Thumper_ | I don't care if they get released as 2.0.10 or not |
| 18:43.57 | Thumper_ | if I commit them I won't have to keep manually applying them all the time ;) |
| 18:44.17 | JeffM2501 | ok the new binary is uploaded |
| 18:44.57 | spldart | OMGROFLOL my random quote http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 18:46.11 | CBG | Ahahaha...! :P |
| 18:46.15 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:46.16 | JeffM2501 | aww DTRemenak is dead last ;( |
| 18:46.34 | DTRemenak | Erroneous talked more than I did ;) |
| 18:46.35 | Thumper_ | no... I didn't make the list at all ;) |
| 18:46.46 | JeffM2501 | he's a gabby bastard |
| 18:47.45 | blast007 | I like DTRemenak's random quote ;) |
| 18:48.02 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 18:48.24 | CBG | "JeffM2501's faithful follower, CBG, ...". Yeah... right. :| |
| 18:49.01 | blast007 | "CBG has quite a potty mouth. 0.2% words were foul language." |
| 18:49.15 | CBG | Only 0.2%? Wo.. |
| 18:49.16 | DTRemenak | CBG seems to be hated, too...he was kicked 1 time(s) ;) |
| 18:49.18 | CBG | wow* |
| 18:49.26 | CBG | DTRemenak: same as L4m3r :P |
| 18:49.45 | blast007 | CBG: but L4m3r's was for fun ;) |
| 18:50.08 | DTRemenak | CBG: you would have been kicked several times if there would have been an op on earlier |
| 18:50.39 | CBG | Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda... |
| 18:51.04 | DTRemenak | luckily for you, JeffM2501 and I were eating barbeque at the time |
| 18:51.30 | CBG | Feel free to kick/ban me now if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. |
| 18:51.36 | DTRemenak | nope, it doesn't |
| 18:51.44 | DTRemenak | I would have when I came back if it did ;) |
| 18:52.08 | DTRemenak | 'tis water under the bridge |
| 18:53.12 | CBG | Sure, but it's being recycled and keeps coming back up. |
| 18:53.56 | spldart | hehe.. told yah you were in danger zone CBG |
| 18:54.32 | CBG | It's a rarity to find me anywhere else. |
| 18:57.44 | donny_baker | my favorite is : JeffM2501's faithful follower, CBG, didn't speak so much: 1372 words. |
| 18:58.09 | CBG | ibot is evil. |
| 18:58.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: include the skin dir |
| 18:58.47 | JeffM2501 | wow, that's slow |
| 18:59.18 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 18:59.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:59.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: remove ShockwaveArena, replace it with weaponArena. |
| 18:59.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: weaponArena lets you specify the weapon, or get a random one by default. |
| 18:59.54 | JeffM2501 | yet that one goes right thru? |
| 19:00.13 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak can you run a server with weaponArena please? :) |
| 19:00.16 | JeffM2501 | and some superflag |
| 19:00.50 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: sure |
| 19:01.39 | JeffM2501 | ahah, I think I found out why I can't list |
| 19:02.12 | JeffM2501 | can't forward TCP to 5145 and udp to 5154 |
| 19:04.00 | JeffM2501 | there it goes :) |
| 19:04.06 | Thumper_ | Can maps load custom sound files so the client can hear other sound clips instead of the defaults for shockwave etc? |
| 19:04.28 | Thumper_ | I know we can't do this in 2.0.x today just wondering if anyone has done any work on that at all |
| 19:05.15 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 19:05.27 | JeffM2501 | tho it'd not be too hard to send for 2.2 |
| 19:06.46 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: thx |
| 19:07.07 | JeffM2501 | just have to add a message that sends a new sound file to play |
| 19:07.18 | JeffM2501 | and then change all the sfx code to check for an overide first |
| 19:07.27 | DTRemenak | if we do that, we should check ogg back in too |
| 19:07.31 | Thumper_ | and the client has to download and cache the file someplace/somehow |
| 19:07.39 | DTRemenak | though maybe we should do that anyway |
| 19:07.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah, cus making wavs in format is a pain |
| 19:07.49 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 19:07.57 | DTRemenak | especially our particular wierd format ;) |
| 19:10.02 | JeffM2501 | ok random shots are wierd |
| 19:11.11 | JeffM2501 | hmm I may have busted or jacked the flag pickup code |
| 19:12.38 | inchworm | how about random shots in groups of say 3? |
| 19:12.52 | inchworm | so 3 consistant shots and then randomize |
| 19:13.02 | JeffM2501 | it's not per shot |
| 19:13.11 | JeffM2501 | it's per spawn/grab/drop |
| 19:13.19 | inchworm | ahh, sry |
| 19:13.30 | JeffM2501 | you spawn you get a shot type, you pick up a flag, you get a new one, you drop you get another |
| 19:13.37 | JeffM2501 | can't do it per shot |
| 19:13.40 | JeffM2501 | latency on that would suck |
| 19:13.50 | inchworm | hehe |
| 19:19.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: |
| 19:19.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: use the last position for flag pickups, not the interped pos, the client will send |
| 19:19.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: us an update when they are near a flag, so the last pos is good enough. |
| 19:20.06 | JeffM2501 | that should play a little better |
| 19:21.27 | JeffM2501 | HAH, I get the useless flag, and it gives me GMs |
| 19:21.45 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:22.04 | JeffM2501 | and SR gave me laser |
| 19:22.32 | blast007 | "Oh, he just has Useless...HOLY CRAP" |
| 19:22.37 | JeffM2501 | it's random |
| 19:22.40 | JeffM2501 | so it could give him anything |
| 19:22.44 | blast007 | :) |
| 19:23.09 | blast007 | let the cheat accusations fly! |
| 19:23.28 | JeffM2501 | actualy with this you can't fire a weapon other then what you have |
| 19:23.35 | JeffM2501 | cus the shot type is set buy the server |
| 19:23.39 | blast007 | right |
| 19:23.58 | JeffM2501 | my test server is now set up as laserArena |
| 19:24.01 | JeffM2501 | laser for all shots |
| 19:24.01 | blast007 | still, if someone grabs a Laser, they could be actually shooting GM or SB, right? :) |
| 19:24.07 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:29.29 | JeffM2501 | I was using the curent state, but not updating the timestamp |
| 19:29.58 | JeffM2501 | so the server did DR, THEN the client did DR on that DRed position |
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| 19:30.06 | blast007 | :) |
| 19:30.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: avoid warnings on VC8 for stricmp while building plugins |
| 19:30.26 | brlcad | just need to set a date |
| 19:30.26 | JeffM2501 | brlcad do the swap :) |
| 19:30.32 | JeffM2501 | it's been pre-approved |
| 19:31.03 | Montague | Am I able to write a plugin for BZFlag in Dev-C++ |
| 19:31.13 | JeffM2501 | Montague no, I don't think so |
| 19:31.31 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't work the same way as VC |
| 19:31.39 | Montague | Visual Studio? |
| 19:31.45 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 19:31.56 | JeffM2501 | there is a free visual studio that can and does build plugins |
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| 19:32.04 | JeffM2501 | and they work fine with the premade server binarys |
| 19:32.24 | Montague | I already have Visual Studio, so I am fine. ;) |
| 19:32.41 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 19:33.05 | JeffM2501 | there is a sample VC71 plugin project in the source you can just copy and use |
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| 19:33.23 | Montague | I noticed that... |
| 19:35.37 | Montague | I am new to computer programming languages, but what is a "h" file? |
| 19:35.58 | blast007 | header file |
| 19:36.17 | blast007 | contains definitions for stuff that's in the cxx/c/cpp files |
| 19:36.23 | Montague | Oh, I see. |
| 19:37.49 | JeffM2501 | blast, can you rejoin? I think I fixed the issues |
| 19:37.58 | blast007 | sure |
| 19:39.35 | Montague | Well, thank you for your time; however, I need to go. |
| 19:39.56 | *** part/#bzflag Montague (n=DPSurfer@ic111.library.oregonstate.edu) |
| 19:42.02 | JeffM2501 | ahh I see why |
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| 19:43.47 | spldart | LOL.. me and my broh were dominating Louman metropolis... kinda get a kick outta that |
| 19:44.13 | spldart | He's the one who turned me onto bzflag 1 year 11 months 2 weeks ago |
| 19:44.33 | CBG | What hour of day, spldart ? |
| 19:44.49 | Goodbye2U | and minute/second? |
| 19:45.26 | spldart | 2:35 pm |
| 19:45.32 | spldart | sry.. don't have the second |
| 19:45.33 | CBG | Liar. |
| 19:45.37 | CBG | :P |
| 19:45.40 | spldart | hehe |
| 19:45.48 | spldart | Ah I rmember it like yesterday |
| 19:46.03 | spldart | *imaginition wavey lines* |
| 19:46.10 | Goodbye2U | ooh.. |
| 19:47.04 | spldart | 2.0 was new and 1.10 was still running a number of servers |
| 19:47.11 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: what is bz_eTeamType::eAdministrators? |
| 19:47.52 | DTRemenak | ah, probably for admin channel |
| 19:48.16 | Goodbye2U | is my conection slow, or is it always this slow? |
| 19:49.09 | spldart | in this channel? |
| 19:49.11 | spldart | yes |
| 19:49.12 | Goodbye2U | yeah |
| 19:49.17 | spldart | sometime |
| 19:49.18 | spldart | s |
| 19:49.26 | Goodbye2U | hmm |
| 19:49.41 | spldart | And sometimes it's fast enough that if you walk away for an hour what you said is gone and you have better had been logging |
| 19:49.57 | Goodbye2U | I can imagine |
| 19:50.54 | Goodbye2U | I never really went to this until yesterday, so... |
| 19:50.55 | spldart | For real thought fast can be that fast and slow can be a few hours of nothing but joins quits |
| 19:51.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/playing.cxx bzfs/bzfs.cxx bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx): always fully repack and unpack the firing info for shots, they have data we need per shot now. |
| 19:52.30 | JeffM2501 | no you should keep up and help test :) |
| 19:52.54 | spldart | lolol |
| 19:53.07 | spldart | I've been frustrated by some failed bzfs builds |
| 19:53.18 | Goodbye2U | I wish I could help, but I lack experience and a mac |
| 19:53.33 | JeffM2501 | what does having a mac have to do with it? |
| 19:53.36 | CBG | Why do you need a mac? |
| 19:53.44 | JeffM2501 | spldart what dosn't build on bzfs? |
| 19:53.46 | Goodbye2U | I thought the source was for macs only? |
| 19:53.50 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 19:53.52 | CBG | (Other than the obvious fact that it would be superior to whatever you currently have.) |
| 19:53.55 | CBG | Roflmao. |
| 19:54.00 | JeffM2501 | I did a binary build |
| 19:54.06 | JeffM2501 | for windows |
| 19:54.09 | JeffM2501 | I'm updating it now |
| 19:54.17 | Goodbye2U | I couldn't find it |
| 19:54.29 | JeffM2501 | where did you look? I posted a link |
| 19:54.37 | CBG | Goodbye2U: Every program for every OS has to be BUILT from SOURCE. |
| 19:54.51 | Goodbye2U | I looked at the sorceforge BZflag code tree |
| 19:55.02 | CBG | Most users just download the pre-made builds, but nothing is stopping anyone from downloading source for any OS, in theory. |
| 19:55.03 | Goodbye2U | CBG: I know that |
| 19:55.12 | JeffM2501 | we don't put binarys in sourceforge |
| 19:55.15 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 19:55.18 | CBG | So why would there only be "Mac Source"? |
| 19:55.23 | Goodbye2U | windows XP |
| 19:55.34 | spldart | I posted my make earlier... after ./configure --disable-client --enable-debug.... |
| 19:55.39 | CBG | Source is source is source. |
| 19:55.41 | Goodbye2U | I read in a post in general discussions, I think |
| 19:55.43 | JeffM2501 | so then you just need the binary installer I osted |
| 19:55.43 | spldart | I'mma try again real fast |
| 19:55.52 | JeffM2501 | but let me update it |
| 19:55.57 | Goodbye2U | nsure |
| 19:56.02 | blast007 | ~n |
| 19:56.12 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 19:56.18 | Goodbye2U | ack! too used to pressing "n" |
| 19:56.18 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:56.42 | Goodbye2U | oh well too bad *plays more* |
| 19:57.24 | spldart | lol |
| 19:57.39 | spldart | That's so 2005 for me |
| 19:57.49 | spldart | maybe a little 2006 ;) |
| 19:58.07 | Goodbye2U | I guess im still there then(kinda makes sense...) |
| 19:58.50 | Goodbye2U | I keep forgetting its 07 |
| 19:59.50 | brlcad | so there are two questions du jour regarding svn, 1) when to do the upgrade (planned/unplanned, announced/unannounced) and 2) whether to go with a single-project per repo or multi-project per repo layout (akin to going moduleless or retaining modules in cvs-lingo) |
| 20:00.53 | JeffM2501 | 1) whenever you want, 2) what are the pros and cons? |
| 20:03.03 | DTRemenak | announced would be good. other than that, I don't care. just give me an hour or two of warning :) |
| 20:03.08 | brlcad | i think it's slightly more common to find moduleless svn repos where you just check out /bzflag/trunk to get the latest, for example .. there are no "modules" in that set up, everthing is in the trunk |
| 20:03.30 | DTRemenak | how would, say, bzedit fit into that? |
| 20:03.34 | JeffM2501 | subdirs |
| 20:03.59 | DTRemenak | so everyone who checks out bzflag would check out bzedit? ... |
| 20:04.01 | brlcad | DTRemenak: it would be like shoving it into the bzflag module somewhere |
| 20:04.09 | brlcad | yep |
| 20:04.12 | brlcad | that's the downside |
| 20:04.20 | JeffM2501 | you can get just subdirs IIRC |
| 20:04.35 | JeffM2501 | but having them easy split is nice |
| 20:04.59 | brlcad | you can, but if you asked for /bzflag/trunk you'd get "everything" .. you could have /bzflag/trunk/bzflag and /bzflag/trunk/bzedit of course |
| 20:05.16 | brlcad | the alternate would be to have /bzflag/bzflag/trunk and /bzflag/bzedit/trunk |
| 20:05.30 | brlcad | that's more common |
| 20:05.43 | brlcad | (for projects that want to retain some concept of modules) |
| 20:05.44 | JeffM2501 | I kinda like that better |
| 20:06.01 | brlcad | that lets you branch/tag the "modules" individually |
| 20:06.26 | JeffM2501 | it would prevent us from moving a dir or file from one module to another right? |
| 20:06.33 | JeffM2501 | where all in one, we can move like mad IIRC |
| 20:06.43 | brlcad | nope, svn imposes no such rules on moving stuff around |
| 20:06.50 | brlcad | it's all per-project convention |
| 20:06.58 | blast007 | sweet :) |
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| 20:06.59 | JeffM2501 | oh cool |
| 20:07.18 | brlcad | you can conceivably check out /bzflag and get every "module", every tagged and branch version, etc |
| 20:08.38 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.1.x/bzflag-2.1.11.2.exe |
| 20:08.50 | Goodbye2U | ah, thank you |
| 20:08.50 | JeffM2501 | that one should work better ( no fake jitter in movement ) |
| 20:08.56 | brlcad | "tagging" and "branching" in svn are similarly generic convention.. to tag you just copy files into a different subtree that you name however you want |
| 20:10.17 | brlcad | e.g. /bzflag/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch would be the equivalence to our current |
| 20:11.00 | brlcad | HEAD is called the "trunk", /bzflag/bzflag/trunk |
| 20:11.32 | brlcad | so if there are no objections, that'll be the structure plan then |
| 20:11.48 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 20:12.10 | brlcad | so then when.. whenever and annonced. hmm. |
| 20:12.48 | brlcad | care for sooner or later? days notice, weeks notice, month notice? |
| 20:12.49 | JeffM2501 | fearless said whenever they had the transfer sevice up |
| 20:13.07 | JeffM2501 | day or so is probalby fine |
| 20:13.22 | JeffM2501 | and decent instruction on how to get the new stuff |
| 20:13.38 | JeffM2501 | I think most of the users that use cvs will see a notice |
| 20:13.47 | JeffM2501 | here, mainpage, sf news, and fourms |
| 20:14.15 | blast007 | hmm, just tried following their migration directions on my own project |
| 20:14.20 | blast007 | rsync: failed to connect to trueleague.cvs.sourceforge.net: Connection timed out (110) |
| 20:14.30 | spldart | switch... |
| 20:15.01 | brlcad | blast007: they have a manual migration interface too |
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| 20:15.45 | blast007 | I only have one method on my project, and its for using an SVN dump file archive |
| 20:16.09 | brlcad | their automatic one has been whacky for months .. I was sorta waiting for that to get sorted out, but we can proceed with or without it working (might take an sf.net support request) |
| 20:16.36 | blast007 | right, I'm using the manual method |
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| 20:16.50 | JeffM2501 | well everyone is always saying "I wish this was SVN" |
| 20:16.56 | JeffM2501 | and we can swap, so why not :) |
| 20:18.30 | blast007 | wonder if I just can't rsync on their shell servers |
| 20:19.38 | blast007 | seems that way :) |
| 20:20.03 | blast007 | their step 1) was misleading then |
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| 20:41.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: don't send admininfo messages about fake players who happen to also be admins |
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| 20:47.07 | brlcad | which of the cvs modules do we want to retain, and which to leave behind? http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/ |
| 20:47.36 | brlcad | admin, bzflag, bzedit, web? |
| 20:47.59 | brlcad | i'm not familiar with some of those |
| 20:48.21 | donny_baker | jeffm2501: the new build is better... since no one told you... thanks |
| 20:48.39 | JeffM2501 | brlcad is there any reaosn to not swap whole hog? |
| 20:48.43 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker thanks |
| 20:50.32 | brlcad | JeffM2501: nah, we can do that too |
| 20:52.01 | JeffM2501 | I can't see any reason to maintain the old stuff |
| 20:52.13 | JeffM2501 | unless for some reason the automated cvs checkouts we do now can't be done in svn |
| 20:52.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: don't crash when running /playerlist on SSPs |
| 20:52.47 | brlcad | nah, it's more just an opportunity to clean up some of the modules that are entirely dead |
| 20:53.02 | JeffM2501 | admin has the masteban |
| 20:53.10 | JeffM2501 | ahh those are to keep |
| 20:53.15 | JeffM2501 | what else we got that is dead? |
| 20:53.18 | JeffM2501 | my thing you can kill |
| 20:53.36 | brlcad | your thing? you have like four things :) |
| 20:53.46 | JeffM2501 | what are they? |
| 20:54.14 | brlcad | bzflagg3d, playground, scrabbox |
| 20:54.21 | JeffM2501 | screwem |
| 20:54.31 | brlcad | there's also 'tools' which has a bzedit, and the two other bzedit modules |
| 20:54.45 | JeffM2501 | there is also tools in the main tree |
| 20:54.49 | JeffM2501 | we should consolodate |
| 20:55.04 | brlcad | the seemingly dead bzstats project that I didn't know tim started |
| 20:55.10 | brlcad | (two years ago) |
| 20:55.24 | brlcad | and the emphemeral pybzflag |
| 20:55.55 | brlcad | probably just import everything and then we can reorg in svn since it's easier to clean up there anyways |
| 20:56.45 | JeffM2501 | awww pybzflag |
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| 20:57.43 | brlcad | (not suggesting remove pybzflag, just listing what's there) |
| 20:58.18 | JeffM2501 | no I'm just remembering fondly |
| 20:58.24 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:58.48 | brlcad | scanline and purple_cow's week-long all-night coding fest excursion |
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| 21:03.05 | Admirarch | I'm getting an "Error on md5, removing offending file" error, what does this mean? |
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| 21:03.24 | ibunny | JeffM2501: :**** |
| 21:04.24 | ibunny | brlcad: :*** |
| 21:05.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: unbreak global chat for SSPs |
| 21:06.35 | Admirarch | It means I've run out of hd space, never mind |
| 21:06.51 | inchworm | hehe |
| 21:07.21 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak SSPs need a lot more callbacks too |
| 21:07.40 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: not for my purposes :) |
| 21:07.48 | DTRemenak | but that's true |
| 21:07.49 | JeffM2501 | ahh, redoing chron? |
| 21:07.56 | DTRemenak | yup, all works now |
| 21:08.02 | DTRemenak | without self-connecting wierdness |
| 21:09.00 | ts | What are "SSPs"? |
| 21:09.31 | DTRemenak | server-side players |
| 21:10.06 | JeffM2501 | maybe I'll hook up some more messages for them today |
| 21:10.35 | ts | Hmm, autopilots done with plug-ins or what? |
| 21:10.45 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I have like two functions in my player manager :) |
| 21:10.54 | ibunny | rosti eater... nicht gut |
| 21:11.05 | JeffM2501 | ts full bots |
| 21:11.09 | JeffM2501 | not just autopilots |
| 21:11.41 | ts | a full bot is a tank always using autopilot ;) |
| 21:12.38 | ts | Someone needs to fix MsgGameSettings, it looks broken |
| 21:12.42 | JeffM2501 | or whatever logic the plugin author decides |
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| 21:20.11 | Goodbye2U | I just tried experimental on 2.1.11, really cool |
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| 21:22.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (18 files in 4 dirs): commit rewritten bzfscron for 2.1. uses SSPs rather than funky and fragile self-connection logic. |
| 21:23.57 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: there's no vc71 project for that. you're welcome to create one. |
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| 21:36.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/Makefile.am: oops |
| 21:59.00 | ts | DTRemenak: Does it compile for you now? |
| 21:59.08 | donny_baker | I tried a whole lot of wall walking on cyborg cube (2.1.1) and I just couldn't do it |
| 21:59.23 | donny_baker | tried through ceileings and floors to |
| 21:59.42 | donny_baker | jumping, not jumping |
| 22:00.02 | DTRemenak | ts: dunno, haven't tested it :) |
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| 22:01.39 | ts | DTRemenak: I get errors in bzcron |
| 22:01.56 | ts | The make system does not like me |
| 22:02.00 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 22:03.08 | ts | :/ |
| 22:03.27 | DTRemenak | :S? |
| 22:03.35 | DTRemenak | err, :/? |
| 22:03.41 | ruskie | mmm it's so nice not having to listen to aries all the time... |
| 22:05.30 | ts | DTRemenak: After a make distclean even ./autogen.sh spits out warnings and ./configure --enable-shared chokes |
| 22:07.56 | a_meteorite | bzflag 2.1 is broken... |
| 22:09.00 | a_meteorite | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/330429 |
| 22:11.44 | ts | DTRemenak: I'm not alone :p |
| 22:12.32 | brlcad | ts: ./autogen.sh -V |
| 22:12.52 | brlcad | get verbose output to see specifically why autoreconf failed |
| 22:13.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/Makefile.am: slightly less broken |
| 22:14.57 | a_meteorite | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/330436 |
| 22:14.57 | ts | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/330435 |
| 22:15.08 | ts | lol |
| 22:15.19 | ts | almost same time |
| 22:17.50 | ts | ok, autogen works now |
| 22:22.47 | ts | The plug-in cpp and h files contains errors, though |
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| 22:24.52 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak is there need for one? |
| 22:25.10 | DTRemenak | dunno, what are we building release builds in? |
| 22:25.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/ (bzfscron.cpp bzfscron.h): Try to fix bzfscron |
| 22:29.30 | JeffM2501 | oh you want it as part of the bin distro? |
| 22:29.35 | JeffM2501 | I don't build all plugins for the bins |
| 22:29.57 | DTRemenak | which ones do you build? |
| 22:34.33 | brlcad | ts: fyi for future reference, an autogen.sh failure where it used to work is almost guaranteed to just be something missing or some other relatively minor error in either configure.ac or a Makefile.am |
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| 22:34.59 | brlcad | verbose mode won't usually pinpoint the line, but often it will point to the file and/or directory |
| 22:35.46 | ruskie | since it's all shell script set -x into autogen.sh ought to print it all |
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| 23:08.51 | spldart | Ok.. I'm at a loss.. The head code I checked out 3 hours ago and built with --disable-client --enable-debug didn't build failed to build bzfs and bzadmin again |
| 23:10.02 | spldart | what could I post up out of the failed build to help you help me :) |
| 23:22.18 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak whatever is in the sln in the plugins dir |
| 23:25.39 | JeffM2501 | spldart what fails? |
| 23:29.08 | spldart | @ make when it get's to bzfs http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/fraggedmake.term |
| 23:29.38 | spldart | then it leaves dir and exits to prompt |
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| 23:31.18 | CBG | I've tried to add a new command to an existing plugin (mapchange) that worked fine before. My 7 new lines don't work but the rest still does - http://rafb.net/p/nDBrrD35.html - Indented lines are mine. |
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| 23:40.06 | JeffM2501 | odd |
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| 23:56.03 | linuxclub | orchid ciao |