| 00:01.31 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: torrents are a good way of distributing large files. while it's probably not necessary for bzflag, there's certainly no harm in it. |
| 00:01.32 | brlcad | i like to put semi random stuff in anon ftp.. it's amazing what people will find and download |
| 00:01.49 | JeffM2501 | Erroneous never said there was harm, just curious |
| 00:01.58 | brlcad | i bet something similar is going on with torrent.. someone's thinking"oh, cool .. free game!" :) |
| 00:02.15 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 00:02.25 | brlcad | bzwarez |
| 00:02.46 | brlcad | hmm.. that has a nice ring to it |
| 00:03.14 | Erroneous | zbwarez sounds better |
| 00:03.25 | brlcad | hehe |
| 00:04.14 | JBdiGriz | bewarebz |
| 00:06.49 | brlcad | zebrawz |
| 00:07.16 | Draicone | ..? |
| 00:07.32 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:07.35 | Draicone | Next time I post a new release on mininova, I'll title it "BZWAREZ! 100% NULLED!" :P |
| 00:07.43 | brlcad | Draicone: pay no attention, we're just easily distracted :) |
| 00:08.03 | CBG | pay? cool, how much and when? |
| 00:08.09 | Draicone | I can see that :) *heads to pillbox server* |
| 00:08.30 | Draicone | CBG: $0.02 for bandwith every 47th of Octember. =P |
| 00:08.51 | CBG | w00t :D |
| 00:08.53 | CBG | oh, suddenly I support these bz torrents - a pillboxer ;) |
| 00:09.19 | Draicone | Yay! |
| 00:09.26 | Draicone | *Advertises site* =D |
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| 00:56.39 | Draicone_Away | Just out of interest, isn't it against freenode policy to keep chanops @ +o ? |
| 00:59.13 | CBG | Draicone_Away: huh? |
| 00:59.40 | Draicone_Away | CBG: So that flamers don't realise there's actually a chanop active, all chanops should generally remain unmarked |
| 00:59.44 | Draicone_Away | As in, just like normal users |
| 00:59.52 | Draicone_Away | Unless they're using chanserv |
| 00:59.54 | CBG | Uh, great idea. |
| 01:00.02 | CBG | Then they have to /op in and out all day. |
| 01:00.09 | CBG | And this way, they act as a deterrent. |
| 01:00.12 | Draicone_Away | How many times do you need a chanop anyway? |
| 01:00.28 | CBG | Less than if they were unopped the whole day. |
| 01:03.01 | Draicone_Away | http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
| 01:03.12 | Draicone_Away | It's not required, but channels are encouraged to adopt those policies |
| 01:03.22 | Draicone_Away | "Don't keep channel operator privileges." |
| 01:04.05 | CBG | Does it give any sensible reasons? |
| 01:04.24 | Draicone_Away | " Displaying these privileges on your nick with a "+o" attracts participants who are interested in gaining them and using them actively; it also attracts the attention of participants who react negatively to authority. Have your nick added to the channel access list and op yourself only when needed. " |
| 01:04.46 | Draicone_Away | Probably not relevant to #bzflag |
| 01:04.46 | CBG | Yeah... right... ;) |
| 01:04.57 | CBG | Let's just say, I'll be staying op in my own channels. |
| 01:07.53 | a_meteorite | that doesn't make any sense, how would someone want to gain your ops? |
| 01:08.04 | a_meteorite | that would have to be a very gullible op |
| 01:14.10 | CBG | munchkin: "can I be op?" usual op resonse: "Uh... NO!" |
| 01:15.27 | [NP]Tangent | munchkin: "can I be op?" usual Tangent response (on ETG): "!addban munchkin" |
| 01:16.41 | CBG | Or that. Depends on the mood.. |
| 01:17.30 | [NP]Tangent | I'm always in a bad one |
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| 03:14.08 | Gx | just wondering how one starts bzflag from the command line? |
| 03:14.33 | blast007 | depends on the OS |
| 03:14.43 | blast007 | is this Windows? |
| 03:14.57 | Gx | no, linux, sorry |
| 03:15.03 | blast007 | ok |
| 03:15.16 | blast007 | assuming it's in the path, you can do just 'bzflag' at the terminal |
| 03:15.31 | Gx | ive installed it, without problems i believe, however "bzflag" doesnt work |
| 03:15.43 | blast007 | which distro? |
| 03:15.51 | Gx | xubuntu |
| 03:16.26 | blast007 | and was it from a package? |
| 03:16.38 | Gx | no, i compiled it from source |
| 03:17.00 | blast007 | ah, and you did a "make install" at the end? |
| 03:17.06 | Gx | yes lol |
| 03:17.14 | blast007 | you might want to verify that it actually compiled the client |
| 03:17.27 | blast007 | from the source directory, run ./src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 03:18.29 | Gx | doesnt exist |
| 03:18.40 | blast007 | k, if it didn't build, you might have to check the config.log to see what's up (or even read over the normal output from ./configure) |
| 03:18.52 | blast007 | at the end of ./configue, it will tell you what it's building |
| 03:18.59 | Gx | i didnt get any errors lol |
| 03:19.07 | Gx | but maybe it was just the server lol |
| 03:19.32 | blast007 | it might have said "no client binary" |
| 03:19.51 | blast007 | so you'll have to check into that |
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| 03:21.05 | Gx | lol a lot of stuff in this log |
| 03:21.20 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 03:21.54 | blast007 | just doing ./configure again might shed some light too |
| 03:22.04 | Gx | ya im about to |
| 03:22.47 | Gx | i may have found the problem lol |
| 03:23.12 | Quol | anybody here ever use the recordmatch plugin? (for bzfs)? |
| 03:23.27 | Gx | doesnt look like i used sudo when doing the make/make install |
| 03:23.36 | Gx | and while i didnt notice any permission errors |
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| 03:23.42 | Gx | well, might just be the problem lol |
| 03:23.46 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:23.50 | whispershadow | hey! sup all |
| 03:23.57 | blast007 | hi whispershadow |
| 03:24.05 | whispershadow | hows bzflag blast |
| 03:24.13 | blast007 | good, I guess |
| 03:24.17 | whispershadow | lol |
| 03:24.19 | Gx | this takes way too long lol |
| 03:24.33 | whispershadow | say, you wouldnt happent to know how to make invisible boxes would u? |
| 03:24.45 | blast007 | whispershadow: I think someone asked that on the forum |
| 03:24.52 | blast007 | you could try a search |
| 03:24.53 | Gx | invisible boxes? |
| 03:24.55 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:25.00 | blast007 | search for invisible |
| 03:25.05 | blast007 | I recall just reading that |
| 03:25.19 | whispershadow | it was me who posted that, noone gave me working text. |
| 03:25.24 | Gx | BZFlag-2.0.8.20070124 with the following: no curses! no SDL! bzadmin no bzflag client binary! |
| 03:25.28 | Gx | lol |
| 03:25.29 | blast007 | whispershadow: oh, hehe |
| 03:25.30 | whispershadow | ill try a search tho |
| 03:25.38 | Gx | no bzflag client binary |
| 03:25.49 | blast007 | Gx: yeah, so you're probably just missing some lib |
| 03:25.52 | whispershadow | ill cu on bz |
| 03:26.00 | Gx | any idea which ones? lol |
| 03:26.05 | blast007 | first off, you really want SDL and curses |
| 03:26.12 | blast007 | curses makes bzadmin better |
| 03:26.22 | blast007 | (not that you're use that, but still nice for when you do) |
| 03:26.39 | blast007 | and SDL helps the client |
| 03:26.45 | blast007 | beyond that, you're have to read up |
| 03:26.52 | Gx | lol been playing bzflag for years, never tried installing it on my linux box until today |
| 03:26.57 | Gx | windows does make some things easier lol |
| 03:27.16 | blast007 | heh, still need libs to build on Windows ;) |
| 03:27.29 | Quol | Gx - ubuntu doesn't have it packaged already? |
| 03:27.29 | Gx | ya but they generally come included |
| 03:27.45 | Gx | you mean bzflag? or those libs? |
| 03:27.55 | Quol | i would guess both.... |
| 03:28.19 | Quol | I just compiled it on gentoo - I can give you the dependencies that are on Gentoo....that may help point you in the right direction |
| 03:28.26 | Gx | i dont use the package manager that often lol |
| 03:28.35 | Gx | but im about to look lol |
| 03:28.46 | blast007 | roflcopter |
| 03:29.31 | Gx | nope, bzflag isnt listed |
| 03:29.35 | blast007 | hrm |
| 03:29.38 | blast007 | it should be |
| 03:29.45 | Gx | lol |
| 03:29.57 | Gx | ill update the package list then |
| 03:30.11 | blast007 | I assume they use the same package list from ubuntu, right? |
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| 03:30.49 | blast007 | Gx: which Xubuntu release is that? |
| 03:31.03 | Gx | 6.10 edgy |
| 03:31.19 | Gx | its a recent install, ran redhat prior to installing this |
| 03:31.39 | Gx | redhat 7.2 if you believe that haha |
| 03:31.50 | blast007 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/bzflag |
| 03:31.56 | blast007 | 2.0.8 in their package system |
| 03:32.28 | Quol | ya - and that should also install all the dependencies for ya Gx |
| 03:32.48 | blast007 | at least the runtime deps |
| 03:33.05 | Gx | interesting |
| 03:33.12 | Gx | it honestly doesnt list bzflag lol |
| 03:33.17 | blast007 | apt-get? |
| 03:34.19 | Gx | interesting |
| 03:35.19 | Gx | nope, it cant find any packages named bzflag |
| 03:39.31 | Gx | and why i dont use it that often lol |
| 03:39.41 | Gx | if can compile it myself, i will |
| 03:45.42 | spldart | I love apt |
| 03:46.26 | Gx | ill try that oblisk package? lol |
| 03:46.48 | [NP]Tangent | I do _not_ recommend the oblisk package |
| 03:46.55 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:46.58 | [NP]Tangent | never could figure out how to get rid of the stupid thing after I installed it |
| 03:47.04 | Gx | lol |
| 03:47.10 | Gx | ive never heard of it tbh |
| 03:57.30 | Gx | GL is not fully available |
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| 04:00.37 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 04:05.42 | spldart | hehe... du -s /media is HUGE! :) |
| 04:09.30 | spldart | Was it you DTR that was answering a query about du in essy? |
| 04:10.46 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 04:13.38 | spldart | Kinda neat getting the lay of the land with it... biggest root folders /usr then /proc then /var then /lib.... of course home is very dependent |
| 04:13.45 | spldart | same for media in my case |
| 04:14.14 | spldart | I'm using -s |
| 04:15.23 | spldart | cool.... thanks for the -h :) |
| 04:15.38 | inchworm | heh |
| 04:15.52 | inchworm | ls -lh is also nice |
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| 04:16.03 | inchworm | human sizes are a good thing most of the time |
| 04:20.33 | spldart | nighty night |
| 04:20.36 | spldart | hehehe |
| 04:21.16 | inchworm | you folks have a g'night too |
| 04:24.31 | inchworm | huh? |
| 04:24.59 | inchworm | no fair hug flooding when i'm trying to sleep! |
| 04:25.31 | SportChick | hehe inchworm |
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| 19:11.44 | SportChick | hehe JeffM2501 |
| 19:14.19 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: so true :( |
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| 20:15.49 | brad | 132.204.25.161 |
| 20:15.58 | brad | new spoogebob IP |
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| 20:44.37 | CBG | "stfu" type PMs? |
| 20:44.49 | CBG | or COPPA related? |
| 20:45.11 | brad | * JeffM2501 just sent out a group of 'stop posting crap" PMs |
| 20:45.26 | CBG | Brilliannt! :) |
| 20:45.33 | CBG | s/nn/n/ |
| 21:18.20 | JeffM2501 | not coppa related CBG |
| 21:19.44 | CBG | So I gather :) |
| 21:27.17 | JBdiGriz | Can't we make the assumption that COPPA should apply in these cases? :) |
| 21:27.48 | CBG | heh |
| 21:40.02 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:40.05 | JeffM2501 | I wish I could |
| 21:40.26 | JeffM2501 | tho from what I've seen, a LOT of kids under 13 do send in permisions |
| 21:41.15 | JeffM2501 | porbably have like 70ish users that have sent them in |
| 21:41.35 | donny_baker | wow, that surprises me |
| 21:41.41 | JeffM2501 | the average age for spree posters does seem to be about 15 |
| 21:41.47 | CBG | wow |
| 21:41.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah, it suprised me as well |
| 21:41.53 | JeffM2501 | I was thinking like 10 or so |
| 21:42.03 | JeffM2501 | Tim adds them all to a group when he gets letters |
| 21:42.05 | JeffM2501 | so we track them |
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| 22:28.49 | Guest399eu | hello? |
| 22:28.57 | Guest399eu | anyone there |
| 22:29.09 | Guest399eu | guess not |
| 22:29.11 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:29.15 | Guest399eu | oh ok |
| 22:29.18 | Guest399eu | question |
| 22:29.26 | JeffM2501 | it is best to wait for someone to respond |
| 22:29.26 | Guest399eu | I got banned from a server of this site |
| 22:29.36 | Guest399eu | so |
| 22:29.48 | Guest399eu | it was for accidentally teamkilling with geno flag |
| 22:29.51 | Guest399eu | i was a noob |
| 22:29.54 | Guest399eu | i didnt know |
| 22:30.01 | JeffM2501 | what server? |
| 22:30.03 | Guest399eu | How do I get unbanned |
| 22:30.08 | Guest399eu | the inleague one |
| 22:30.12 | JeffM2501 | you talk to the server owner or the person who banned you |
| 22:30.15 | JeffM2501 | who banned you? |
| 22:30.22 | Guest399eu | Spider or something |
| 22:30.29 | Guest399eu | I can't talk to him cuz I'm banned |
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| 22:30.39 | JeffM2501 | register for the fourms |
| 22:30.42 | brad | send a pm to 1st consul on bzbb |
| 22:30.45 | JeffM2501 | and send that user a private message |
| 22:30.47 | JeffM2501 | or that guy |
| 22:30.51 | Guest399eu | ok |
| 22:30.57 | Guest399eu | I already registered |
| 22:31.06 | Guest399eu | I emailed tis site's owner |
| 22:31.13 | Guest399eu | so I'll try that |
| 22:31.18 | JeffM2501 | site? |
| 22:31.20 | Guest399eu | name's POOPTURTLE btw |
| 22:31.20 | JeffM2501 | what site? |
| 22:31.25 | Guest399eu | this site |
| 22:31.28 | Guest399eu | bzflag.eu |
| 22:31.41 | JeffM2501 | do they run that server? |
| 22:31.46 | Guest399eu | well |
| 22:31.53 | brad | the owner of that domain doesn't own that server |
| 22:31.57 | Guest399eu | the server is called inleague.bzflag.eu |
| 22:32.01 | Guest399eu | oh |
| 22:32.04 | brad | 1st consul owns the server |
| 22:32.07 | Guest399eu | oops |
| 22:32.12 | Guest399eu | shit |
| 22:32.14 | JeffM2501 | each server is it's own thing |
| 22:32.18 | JeffM2501 | please watch your language here |
| 22:32.21 | Guest399eu | sry |
| 22:32.23 | JeffM2501 | this isn't just for that one "site" |
| 22:32.28 | Guest399eu | oh crap |
| 22:32.28 | JeffM2501 | this is the main bzflag IRC channel |
| 22:32.33 | JeffM2501 | your just using the webiste to get to us |
| 22:32.38 | Guest399eu | ok well I'll go email that consul guy |
| 22:32.50 | Guest399eu | i mean pm |
| 22:33.00 | JeffM2501 | you can also play at other servers |
| 22:33.04 | Guest399eu | true |
| 22:33.05 | JBdiGriz | 14 |
| 22:33.09 | JeffM2501 | a ban on his does not affect tthe other 200 |
| 22:33.14 | Guest399eu | actually |
| 22:33.21 | Guest399eu | it banned me from at least two |
| 22:33.25 | Guest399eu | one I never played one |
| 22:33.28 | Guest399eu | on* |
| 22:33.39 | JeffM2501 | server do run in groups |
| 22:33.45 | Guest399eu | yeah |
| 22:33.47 | JeffM2501 | but one server does not speak for all 200+ |
| 22:33.50 | Guest399eu | true |
| 22:34.01 | Guest399eu | but a whole bunch of them have 0-1 players |
| 22:34.07 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 22:34.10 | Guest399eu | or crap rules |
| 22:34.14 | Guest399eu | like 200 shots |
| 22:34.31 | brad | lol :P |
| 22:34.31 | Guest399eu | makes lasers super cheap |
| 22:34.33 | Guest399eu | lol |
| 22:34.51 | Guest399eu | I seriously just played on one like that |
| 22:34.57 | Guest399eu | sucked |
| 22:35.03 | Guest399eu | badly |
| 22:35.06 | brad | yeah, the owner is an idiot |
| 22:35.11 | Guest399eu | lol |
| 22:35.20 | Guest399eu | was pretty popular surprisingly |
| 22:35.29 | Guest399eu | but I thought it was really sucky |
| 22:35.53 | Guest399eu | And how come there's never any textured levels |
| 22:36.06 | brad | try louman's maps |
| 22:36.10 | Guest399eu | It shows them on the top bar of this site |
| 22:36.12 | Guest399eu | oh ok |
| 22:36.14 | brad | they will blow you away |
| 22:36.19 | brad | quite literally :) |
| 22:36.22 | Guest399eu | lol |
| 22:36.23 | Guest399eu | :) |
| 22:36.43 | Guest399eu | well I'll brb, gonna go pm 1st consul |
| 22:37.14 | Guest399eu | but |
| 22:37.21 | Guest399eu | should I do it on the euro boards |
| 22:37.25 | Guest399eu | or american ones |
| 22:37.31 | Guest399eu | oh wait... |
| 22:37.37 | Guest399eu | lol he owns the euro ones |
| 22:37.44 | Guest399eu | rofl I'm stupid. |
| 22:38.12 | brad | ? |
| 22:39.19 | Guest399eu | did you read above texts |
| 22:41.34 | Guest399eu | alright I sent it |
| 22:41.43 | Guest399eu | hopefully he visits the forum often |
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