| 00:00.08 | SilverFox | 2. Sanity Checks (only allow correctly syntaxed map stuff) |
| 00:00.24 | SilverFox | 3. Map file parsing (for populating the form) |
| 00:00.41 | SilverFox | 4. Map file generation (when you click the "submit" button) |
| 00:00.46 | SilverFox | 5. RCS integration. |
| 00:00.54 | SilverFox | hehe... |
| 00:00.57 | spldart | back |
| 00:01.15 | spldart | ooOOoo |
| 00:01.15 | [NP]Tangent | SilverFox, what are you doing with forms? |
| 00:01.19 | spldart | I like so far silver |
| 00:01.27 | SilverFox | spldart, thanks. |
| 00:01.47 | SilverFox | [NP]Tangent, mapwiki used to be a working project before we lost a server a while back (and couldn't revive it from backups) |
| 00:02.08 | SilverFox | basically, users can "create" or upload the map they'd like to see in the silvercat rotation. |
| 00:02.13 | SilverFox | Or modify the existing ones. |
| 00:02.38 | [NP]Tangent | nice |
| 00:02.44 | [NP]Tangent | so I could upload one of my maps? |
| 00:02.51 | [NP]Tangent | and if people like it, it can stay? |
| 00:03.07 | SilverFox | it'll stay until someone overwrites it. |
| 00:03.16 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 00:03.18 | spldart | interseting |
| 00:03.21 | SilverFox | generally, good maps would stay for longer than less desired ones. |
| 00:03.32 | SilverFox | It worked really well, but the form was super simple. |
| 00:03.39 | SilverFox | I'm trying to make this one more intelligent. |
| 00:03.46 | SilverFox | It'll take me a while. |
| 00:03.52 | spldart | Kinda wish mine had taken offf... it got some compliments but I guess playability isn't good enough |
| 00:04.19 | SilverFox | sometimes you have to stick to it. |
| 00:04.23 | SilverFox | tunnels is a good example. |
| 00:04.29 | cosmos | what prevents someone like spoogebob from uploading crap maps continously? |
| 00:04.37 | cosmos | can you save popular ones? |
| 00:04.37 | spldart | so does a modified map go through approval or does it line up in the rotation immeadiately? |
| 00:04.40 | SilverFox | constitution has tried many variations, and some ahven't been too popular. |
| 00:04.41 | cosmos | or are they just gone |
| 00:04.44 | SilverFox | its got a cult following now. |
| 00:04.52 | SilverFox | spldart, immediately. |
| 00:05.00 | spldart | wow |
| 00:05.08 | SilverFox | cosmos, since I'm going to use RCS, previous versions can be pulled up. |
| 00:05.40 | spldart | So how, referring to cosmos, do you prevent abuse? |
| 00:05.43 | SilverFox | cosmos, nothing. We never had a problem with this before. We do log IP address though. We could also tie it into the forums db for authentication if necessary. |
| 00:05.56 | spldart | ah |
| 00:06.17 | SilverFox | I'm a complete hack when it comes to php though. I'm learning as I go. |
| 00:06.38 | spldart | Neat idea |
| 00:06.44 | SilverFox | thanks. |
| 00:07.05 | SilverFox | its got a long ways to go. |
| 00:07.28 | SilverFox | http://www.phpvideotutorials.com is a rather neat site for learning php. |
| 00:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | k |
| 00:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | here you go |
| 00:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | http://nullprod.abacionline.com/nsr/music/BZFrag.mp3 |
| 00:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | I guess I'll let SilverFox listen too |
| 00:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | 8) |
| 00:08.12 | SilverFox | kind of simple, but it helps me remember things I've read multiple times before for some reason. |
| 00:10.11 | SilverFox | [NP]Tangent, what'd you use to make that? |
| 00:10.20 | SilverFox | reminds me of the old school mods. |
| 00:10.57 | SilverFox | bzflag should have a way of specifying a "world music" file/url. |
| 00:12.03 | SilverFox | of course the default client setting would be "no music", but add'l options of download and stream play would be nice though. |
| 00:12.12 | [NP]Tangent | SilverFox, I made it with LMMS |
| 00:12.24 | SilverFox | cool. |
| 00:12.31 | SilverFox | where do you get samples? |
| 00:13.37 | [NP]Tangent | I used the Triple Oscillator for everything but drums |
| 00:13.47 | [NP]Tangent | the drums were from various Smokers Battery Kit sets |
| 00:14.04 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 00:14.08 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 00:14.13 | [NP]Tangent | just smokers |
| 00:14.52 | [NP]Tangent | you like it? |
| 00:15.33 | SilverFox | yeah, dig it. |
| 00:15.38 | [NP]Tangent | sweet |
| 00:17.03 | spldart | just started it |
| 00:18.42 | spldart | Is imagining Duke3d music playing on his map |
| 00:19.05 | spldart | I kinda like it |
| 00:19.16 | spldart | mr electronica |
| 00:19.58 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 00:31.43 | [NP]Tangent | welp |
| 00:31.48 | [NP]Tangent | off to another christmas party |
| 00:31.52 | spldart | kew |
| 00:31.55 | spldart | have fun |
| 00:31.55 | [NP]Tangent | enjoy the song |
| 00:31.58 | [NP]Tangent | I will return later |
| 00:32.03 | [NP]Tangent | and when I do |
| 00:32.08 | spldart | look out |
| 00:32.10 | [NP]Tangent | you shall all continue to pwn me on my own bz map |
| 00:32.16 | spldart | hehe |
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| 00:39.18 | spldart | Yay! Hepcat added the snow too :) |
| 00:42.23 | spldart | OOOOOOOOO I like the (plugin?) where if you rejoin to soon you blow up every time you try to spawn up to time up and it doesn't count to score!!!! Howdya do it? |
| 00:42.30 | spldart | I want I want I want |
| 00:46.01 | SilverFox | spldart, its not a plugin. |
| 00:46.04 | SilverFox | standard feature now. |
| 00:46.14 | SilverFox | ./set _rejoinTime x |
| 00:46.30 | SilverFox | where x is the number of seconds before someone is allowed to spawn since they last left. |
| 00:55.35 | spldart | mucho excellent... |
| 00:55.39 | spldart | thanks |
| 00:56.15 | spldart | hrm.. when was it added? |
| 00:56.33 | spldart | I did update -dP last week but don't have that variable.... |
| 00:57.41 | spldart | ~bz20cvs |
| 00:57.48 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 00:59.41 | SilverFox | quite a qhile ago. |
| 00:59.43 | spldart | just gonna build from latest stable |
| 00:59.45 | SilverFox | pre 2.0 I think. |
| 01:00.11 | spldart | something is wrong with my 2.0.9 and update... cuz that variable isn't there for me :( |
| 01:00.26 | spldart | hrm.. after that I'll build a latest source head too :) |
| 01:00.38 | SilverFox | if you don't specify -r in the cvs, it'll download 2.1.x |
| 01:09.53 | SilverFox | I think I've got step 1 done. |
| 01:45.56 | spldart | wooohooo first page |
| 01:49.22 | spldart | man... was goin to compile and my map went to number 3 slot fast... still very busy in there |
| 01:49.33 | spldart | what are the odds |
| 01:49.57 | spldart | I mean.. noone plays on my server... I've only been on the first page maybe 24 time in the last year |
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| 02:25.37 | inchworm | spldart: it is a decent map :) |
| 02:26.28 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 02:26.56 | brad | it's showing 8 players when no-one is on |
| 02:27.10 | brad | brad.bz:1337(8) |
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| 02:38.28 | spldart | @%&*#%*$%&@%*^* Power key is next to the @$%&%*%@#*(@$% F12 key |
| 02:39.18 | spldart | Anyone know how to turn off the power key on the keyboard? |
| 02:39.58 | Theme97 | spldart: Remove it! |
| 02:40.51 | spldart | growl snarl |
| 02:41.04 | spldart | ~s something is the last thing I saw |
| 02:41.09 | ibot | okay, spldart |
| 02:42.24 | Theme97 | ~s |
| 02:42.25 | ibot | test |
| 02:42.27 | Theme97 | ~s something |
| 02:42.29 | ibot | it has been said that s something is the last thing I saw |
| 02:42.37 | Theme97 | ~forget s something |
| 02:42.37 | ibot | Theme97: i forgot s something |
| 02:42.49 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:57.37 | blast007 | spldart: Windows? |
| 03:04.38 | spldart | yeah |
| 03:04.52 | spldart | wow... a busy server can be really hectic upkeep |
| 03:15.47 | spldart | ~spldart |
| 03:15.51 | ibot | somebody said spldart was a n00b |
| 03:15.58 | spldart | weeeebeeeeep |
| 03:17.17 | blast007 | spldart: you can try playing with: Control Panel, Power Options, Advanced tab |
| 03:21.14 | spldart | already have.. set it to ask me before power off for the future.. but it's not exactly what I was looking for.. thinking of taking a flat blade screwdriver to the Power key >:-) |
| 03:21.34 | spldart | REDRUM REDRUM |
| 03:37.26 | spldart | ~cigar What a bzflag player lights up after a successful day of carnage on bzflag client |
| 03:38.07 | spldart | ~cigar |
| 03:38.08 | ibot | I'm not that kind of bot. Maybe Bill Clinton wants one. |
| 03:38.16 | spldart | loil |
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| 03:43.46 | spldart | nice thing... having my server get up to 16 players showed me some things I need to change :) |
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| 03:57.37 | spldart | can you set autoteam in your .bzw? |
| 03:57.42 | spldart | and what would be the command? |
| 04:00.46 | spldart | ~man bzflag |
| 04:00.47 | ibot | methinks man bzflag is http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzflag.6s |
| 04:21.58 | spldart | WooHoo War Towers 1.1 is up and running |
| 04:34.36 | a_meteorite | what is it with *blah* war(s) servers? :P |
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| 04:58.03 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:58.11 | spldart | at least I'm a war blah server |
| 04:58.22 | spldart | That's me |
| 04:58.23 | spldart | thinking outside the box |
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| 05:18.41 | bz41 | does anyone know how to run linux on a intel-based mac? |
| 05:19.23 | cosmos | trade it in for a pc? |
| 05:20.06 | bz41 | I am running windoxs xp now, but i read that the linux bz client is better |
| 05:21.10 | bz41 | i can boot into mac os or windows, so i was hoping to be able to boot into linux |
| 05:21.27 | bz41 | but can't seem to find any info on mac support |
| 05:21.36 | cosmos | the os x bzflag client works just fine |
| 05:21.59 | bz41 | the windows client seems to be faster on this computer |
| 05:22.04 | cosmos | not sure why the linux client is any better than any other client |
| 05:22.26 | cosmos | maybe easier to compile yourself but the features should be identical |
| 05:22.31 | bz41 | the os x client is also modified to operate on the intel chipset |
| 05:22.46 | bz41 | windows client is definately faster |
| 05:22.59 | bz41 | than intel-based os x |
| 05:23.00 | cosmos | i just make sure to run it on a 32cpu machine |
| 05:23.19 | bz41 | i dont think this is a 64 bit |
| 05:23.31 | bz41 | those will be out next year |
| 05:23.52 | bz41 | this is an intel core 2 duo |
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| 16:01.20 | ampster | how about now - can you hear me? |
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| 19:43.20 | brlcad | ts: was the poll set change specific to some problem or a personal preference? |
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| 19:56.46 | ts | brlcad: Many server owners have removed pollSet from verified |
| 19:57.27 | ts | It can do things like messing up the server settings or even crashing the client |
| 19:59.06 | ts | brlcad: Talked to DTRemenak, who gave the perm initially. He didn't know why and ibot's logs are busted regarding that. He suggested me to just do the change and listen whether someone complains |
| 19:59.24 | brlcad | i suppose i'm "someone" :) |
| 19:59.29 | brlcad | though I'm just curious as to the motivation |
| 20:00.03 | brlcad | the fact that many/most remove it from verified is mostly irrelevant, it's more consistency of the default that I'm concerned with |
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| 20:00.25 | brlcad | the second point of allowing users to crash clients is interesting.. |
| 20:00.41 | brlcad | people actually vote yes to a poll on a var change that would do this? |
| 20:01.05 | brlcad | i can see via ignorance, but not easily via abuse |
| 20:01.16 | ts | brlcad: It was used to mess up SW on hepcat at least once and changing things like rain amount can really make it unplayable |
| 20:01.48 | blast007 | /poll set _tankSpeed 10000000 |
| 20:02.01 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:02.49 | blast007 | I personally don't like pollset at all |
| 20:03.14 | ts | well, when people get 0fps they say "crashed". technically it's just a freeze |
| 20:03.14 | brad | brlcad: noobs will /vote yes if someone says that if they do they something cool will happen :P |
| 20:03.30 | blast007 | the admin/cops should be the one in charge of variables |
| 20:03.31 | brlcad | brad: and then the person that said that should get banned |
| 20:04.33 | ts | brlcad: As for consistancy, how does hideAdmin fit in the scheme? |
| 20:04.33 | brlcad | the admin/cops are in charge of kicking and banning too, polling is provided for when there is no admin/cop/op |
| 20:04.33 | brad | and they most likely will be, but what if an admin isn't present. Just wait until an admin fixes the server? |
| 20:04.33 | ts | and in the mean time the server would be unplayable |
| 20:04.53 | brlcad | no, (devil's advocating) you'd just have another poll to ban the player and fix the setting |
| 20:05.10 | blast007 | I just don't see the use of pollset at all |
| 20:05.24 | brad | if you have rainDensity 100000... then you won't be able to play at all, or type for that matter |
| 20:05.37 | brad | or some setting that crashes the client instantly |
| 20:05.38 | blast007 | I only see it as a possible abuse point |
| 20:05.41 | brad | like tankSpeed foo |
| 20:05.47 | blast007 | yeah.. |
| 20:05.55 | ts | The only case I know of it has been used was the SW thing at hepcat which made the flag useless |
| 20:05.58 | blast007 | there isn't enough validation in bzbb variables |
| 20:06.13 | brlcad | which is a separate issue altogether really |
| 20:06.42 | blast007 | right :) |
| 20:07.08 | ts | Whether there is validation or not, doesn't prevent peepz to use an incredible high/slow tankspeed |
| 20:07.12 | brad | but why not just keep it removed by default at least until there is some real validation in place? |
| 20:07.14 | brlcad | i'm not advocating it be on, I didn't add it in the first place for slightly similar reasons, but then uses were found |
| 20:08.05 | brlcad | those uses are still valid, and removing the default means now one anamoly that should be kept track of (i.e. all the things you can poll for except "one" are enabled) |
| 20:08.20 | ts | Server variables are something not to be messed around by _all_ registered users |
| 20:08.45 | brlcad | if you've got verified users polling a rainDensity 100000, that is just as bad as the cheats of old that would get a player banned permanently from a server |
| 20:09.06 | brlcad | ts: that |
| 20:09.23 | brlcad | er, that is a personal preference statement -- and not the basis for making the change I trust |
| 20:09.51 | brlcad | making it for the other points mentioned are good reasons, that not so much |
| 20:09.51 | blast007 | I think the majority of server would NOT want it though |
| 20:09.56 | blast007 | the select few can add it |
| 20:11.41 | ts | brlcad: I know no server which is providing it intentionally |
| 20:12.36 | trepan | ;) |
| 20:12.45 | blast007 | hehe |
| 20:12.46 | ts | and given the fact you need people to change a setting back with a poll, then a regular cop can't do |
| 20:12.52 | brlcad | ts: i know, and I do agree to an extent givne variables are unchecked -- just want to make sure the process for getting to that result is actually thought through |
| 20:13.15 | brlcad | if anything there should probably be a comment saying that the option is intentionally disabled |
| 20:13.36 | brlcad | so someone doesn't read through the code in two years, notice one of the polling commands is missing, and readd it |
| 20:14.05 | ts | That means there should be a documentation which we don't have |
| 20:14.31 | brlcad | no, just a one-liner in the code where it matters |
| 20:14.43 | brlcad | where someone would potentially readd it |
| 20:15.23 | ts | So what do you want me to do now? |
| 20:15.29 | brlcad | not a big deal either way, but the code is flip-flopped a lot when their are singular "anamolies" like that left uncommented |
| 20:15.37 | ts | Reverting or adding a comment or still discussing? |
| 20:16.00 | brlcad | heh, wasn't proposing a revert |
| 20:16.07 | brlcad | but a comment is probably in order |
| 20:16.49 | brlcad | hmm.. was that on head or branch? |
| 20:16.57 | ts | Comment as in something using std::cout or just //? |
| 20:17.02 | brlcad | just // |
| 20:17.07 | ts | cvs head |
| 20:18.22 | SilverFox | if the server -s using -g (in a loop), then if all the clients get kicked, the server reloads with fresh settings. Not a huge deal. |
| 20:18.46 | SilverFox | s/ \-s/'s/ |
| 20:19.01 | ts | SilverFox: The majority of servers doesn't have a countdown running |
| 20:19.38 | SilverFox | then, if their players are dumb enough (or just working together) to vote for something that crashes clients, then the server is kaput. |
| 20:19.39 | ts | and with log bots the server is prevented from restarting |
| 20:19.59 | SilverFox | ts, in that scenario, I'd recommend owners remove pollset from verified. ;) |
| 20:20.06 | brlcad | ts: server resets regardless of countdown, using -g |
| 20:20.25 | ts | brlcad: See what I wrote after that ;) |
| 20:20.34 | brlcad | yes, bots |
| 20:20.46 | brlcad | the comment was if all clients were kicked :) |
| 20:21.05 | SilverFox | bots(bzadmin) wouldn't get kicked for moving too fast. |
| 20:21.23 | brlcad | nah, but I'm sure there's some settings you could set that would crash them too |
| 20:21.48 | brlcad | well, not really sure, but mildly sure.. |
| 20:21.49 | SilverFox | can't think of any atm. |
| 20:22.23 | brlcad | setting a var to an expression |
| 20:22.44 | brlcad | that would end up getting evaluated and inf looping or somesuch comes to mind |
| 20:22.44 | blast007 | don't think that would crash bzadmin though |
| 20:23.01 | SilverFox | might crash the server. |
| 20:23.08 | blast007 | right :) |
| 20:23.12 | brlcad | could probably get some inf stack recursion going |
| 20:23.28 | SilverFox | and if that's the case, I'd think that'd be a security hole/bug. |
| 20:23.34 | blast007 | or screen could just crash |
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| 20:23.41 | brlcad | would be |
| 20:24.01 | brlcad | but I bet something like that is possible now |
| 20:24.07 | brlcad | not to give anyone ideas.. |
| 20:24.32 | SilverFox | yeah, good one brlcad. |
| 20:28.21 | ts | I'm just wondering what a feature (pollSet) is worth when it is mostly unwished by the server owners |
| 20:28.33 | brlcad | ask DTRemenak .. he implemented it ;) |
| 20:29.21 | brlcad | actually, the idea is not bad amongst trusted friends when there's no admin around |
| 20:29.30 | brlcad | even without the potential for abuse |
| 20:29.35 | brlcad | er, with |
| 20:30.00 | brlcad | that's the point of the polling system -- you give the players the ability to do whatever the admins can do if enough of them can agree to do it |
| 20:30.15 | ts | In that case bzfs should warn when pollSet is given and no automatic restart of server when empty |
| 20:30.19 | blast007 | pollShutdown |
| 20:30.20 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:30.22 | brlcad | so if you get a lot of idiots that vote yes to a bad idea, they pay the price, as does the server and other players that didn't vote no |
| 20:30.57 | SilverFox | ts, I find it desireable. |
| 20:31.17 | ts | blast007: Heh, now that is usefull for servers doing a rotation ;) |
| 20:31.18 | brlcad | blast007: that actually would be very useful poll command to have |
| 20:31.24 | blast007 | brlcad: however, pollKick and pollBan only affect a single player, while pollSet can have a negative effect on every current and future player, and even prevent an admin from fixing it without switching to using bzadmin |
| 20:31.25 | brlcad | that's what the league servers use to reset a match |
| 20:31.50 | blast007 | brlcad: it would also be useful to get rid of half of the servers on the list |
| 20:32.01 | SilverFox | how about an automatic revert of pollset settings (-rp 120 This would revert a pollset 120 seconds after it was set) |
| 20:32.08 | brlcad | sounds like having it would help cull that list down somewhat ;) |
| 20:32.15 | ts | brlcad: Umm, that would be /gameover not /shutdownserver |
| 20:32.35 | brlcad | ts: gameover is new, used to use shutdown |
| 20:32.41 | brad | not superkill? |
| 20:32.42 | brlcad | the server's on a loop, so it'd reset |
| 20:32.56 | brlcad | superkill would do the trick too |
| 20:33.10 | blast007 | /nuke_em_all |
| 20:33.18 | SilverFox | /gameover doesn't kill the server though, right? just the match. |
| 20:33.48 | ts | yeah, only the match |
| 20:36.56 | SilverFox | *tsk*\ |
| 20:37.51 | blast007 | brlcad: /gameover was around even in 1.7 |
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| 20:41.32 | blast007 | http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx?r1=1.66&r2=1.67&pathrev=v1_7 |
| 20:41.35 | blast007 | added by Tim |
| 20:41.41 | brlcad | hmm |
| 20:41.51 | SilverFox | ~TimRiker++ |
| 20:42.18 | brlcad | then i wonder if/what the reason was for not using it for league matches |
| 20:42.39 | blast007 | they probably wanted a full server reset |
| 20:42.43 | brlcad | probably |
| 20:43.04 | brlcad | if all it did was end the game.. nobody could join/restart a new match |
| 20:43.09 | brlcad | until everyone left and rejoined |
| 20:43.30 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:50.09 | ts | Now what to do regarding pollSet? |
| 20:50.41 | SilverFox | ts, I'd suggest making it a priveledge that is defaulted into the ADMIN group, and allow people to place it into other groups if desired. |
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| 20:52.26 | ts | Well, local.admin has all perms by default |
| 20:52.51 | SilverFox | exactly. |
| 20:53.06 | SilverFox | so, don't default it to any other group (ie. VERIFIED) |
| 20:53.38 | blast007 | all except hiddenAdmin ;) |
| 20:53.49 | ts | Another option would be "if (server_restarts_when_empy) {give verified pollSet perm}" |
| 20:54.21 | blast007 | nah |
| 20:54.27 | ts | blast007: hideAdmin is an alien in the perm system |
| 20:54.31 | blast007 | a permission should be predictable |
| 20:55.02 | ts | All perms give something, don't take something away, except hideAdmin |
| 20:55.12 | blast007 | hmm, true |
| 20:55.14 | ts | Which doesn't make much sense for me, btw |
| 20:56.46 | DTRemenak | hideAdmin gives the ability to be a stealth admin ;) |
| 20:56.48 | brad | aren't there ANTI* perms? |
| 20:56.58 | DTRemenak | and yeah, we have antiperms also |
| 20:57.30 | brad | they give you the ability to not have an ability |
| 20:57.48 | DTRemenak | no, they give you the ability to avoid other people's abilities ;) |
| 20:57.52 | blast007 | antiban give you the ability to get around a ban or not gets banned |
| 20:57.58 | blast007 | get* |
| 20:58.02 | brad | oh yeah, right |
| 20:58.03 | SilverFox | brad, yes put a - infront of the perm. |
| 20:58.04 | ts | brlcad: I'll just add a comment "// verified doesn't have pollSet because it's easy to abuse and most server owners don't want that perm given to verified", ok? |
| 20:58.21 | SilverFox | oh, and ANTIKICK/BAN yeah... that too. |
| 20:58.34 | ts | There is also !perm |
| 20:58.53 | ts | Not the easiest system to understand but it works ;) |
| 21:01.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/common/PositionTracker.cxx: Remove a compilation warning and an unused file |
| 21:03.03 | ts | bzbb admins: Someone posting into sticky anouncement: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3341&highlight= |
| 21:04.34 | ts | also here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8807&highlight= |
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| 22:00.11 | brlcad | ts, sure |
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| 22:57.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: document why pollSet has been removed from the verified group |
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| 23:24.25 | L4m3r | user "anti-spam" is getting annoying |
| 23:26.28 | DTRemenak | the post he was responding to was extremely rude, imo |
| 23:27.00 | L4m3r | True. but then he should have said something more mature, not less |
| 23:27.16 | L4m3r | and winXP has a point... the guy is blatantly spamming to boost his rank |
| 23:28.02 | L4m3r | the other day I deleted a post from anti-spam that bumped a year-old thread, and was nothing but a google translation of one of Romfis's posts |
| 23:28.25 | blast007 | today he posted something in a sticky that made no sense |
| 23:28.54 | L4m3r | spam00b |
| 23:29.33 | blast007 | what should we put for admining servers? |
| 23:29.33 | blast007 | [quote]Preadmin this server please![/quote] or something like that? |
| 23:29.45 | DTRemenak | did you ask him what he meant? |
| 23:29.50 | blast007 | yeah, in a PM |
| 23:29.59 | blast007 | deleted the message, and quoted it in a PM |
| 23:30.06 | DTRemenak | k |
| 23:30.16 | blast007 | he posted it in this thread: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8807&highlight= |
| 23:30.21 | DTRemenak | yeah, I saw it |
| 23:30.25 | blast007 | k |
| 23:34.34 | blast007 | still awaiting them to read/reply to it |
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