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| 01:07.46 | FOSSi1 | uuummm, is it just me or is no-one saying anything? |
| 01:08.13 | L4m3r | it's just you |
| 01:08.17 | FOSSi1 | uh-huh. |
| 01:08.25 | L4m3r | we're having a great time :D |
| 01:08.52 | FOSSi1 | hmmmm. |
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| 01:28.29 | Thumper_ | we're all busy checking out LouMan's latest creation |
| 01:28.53 | L4m3r | what now? |
| 01:29.12 | Thumper_ | The Gauntlet |
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| 01:59.57 | GMMan | Hi, everyone. |
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| 02:03.24 | GMMan | Hi. From ChatZilla. |
| 02:06.14 | tannerld | :o |
| 02:07.47 | GMMan | Ha. |
| 02:08.25 | DTRemenak | saskatchewan is just about as remote :P |
| 02:10.19 | GMMan | Ahhem! Looks like non of you forgot that I use Privoxy. |
| 02:10.39 | GMMan | I use privoxy to bust internet junk, that's all. |
| 02:10.59 | GMMan | And I don't use Tor with it. |
| 02:11.20 | GMMan | I use Privoxy to find out what my computer is doing. |
| 02:12.15 | GMMan | Found that Yahoo! Messenger's bundler tracks your every move on the program by pinging its server. |
| 02:14.46 | GMMan | Anyways, I'm waiting to make my wiki after my "proposal" is passed. |
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| 02:50.49 | spam | hi? |
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| 03:46.01 | spldart | Quick ot query if yah don't mind. Is it practical/fairly easy to migrate a debian install from a smaller to a larger HDD ? |
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| 04:00.55 | cosmos | how many hd do you have? |
| 04:12.43 | spldart | I wanna copy hda to a new hdd... I have 6 hdd in total |
| 04:13.23 | spldart | was trying to avoid complete reinstall of web/game/file server |
| 04:13.33 | spldart | 10 to 80 gig |
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| 04:26.17 | cosmos | you could always boot from a third, and just dd the filesystems from new to old drive |
| 04:26.28 | cosmos | partition the new drive how you want it |
| 04:26.47 | cosmos | transfer the data from drive to drive while its completely down |
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| 04:33.22 | SportChick | hey cosmos |
| 04:33.24 | spldart | Will that retain all permisions and links etc? |
| 04:34.31 | spldart | I was considering making a simple base install on the 80 then moving all files from old to new overwriting and in the process adding configurations etc... |
| 04:41.41 | cosmos | you can do that |
| 04:45.33 | spldart | Really? It almost sounds to easy... Windows wouldn't tolerate it cuz it's like impossible to get your proggies to work |
| 04:47.05 | spldart | Like... biggest test.. would things like modules like my vid card copy over and work without reconfiguring everything... would X just work or does that have to be reinstalled |
| 04:47.32 | spldart | sdl for say bzflag too? |
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| 05:23.38 | spldart | NM for now.... found some swollen caps in teh PS... Gotta take it to work tomorrow and recap it |
| 05:23.51 | SportChick | ~lart spldart |
| 05:30.06 | cosmos | heh someone threatned to take me to court over kicking him from pillbox last night |
| 05:32.59 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:43.31 | spldart | If I had a dollar for every times someone threatened to sue me... I could get some chinese take_out |
| 05:44.26 | spldart | I feel... naked :~( No samba,apache and bzfsX2 |
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| 05:51.06 | spldart | meh |
| 06:07.41 | DTRemenak | cosmos: so do you prefer "I'll sue you" or "I'll kill you"? :) |
| 06:09.07 | cosmos | i prefer both in the same sentence! |
| 06:09.40 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 06:09.55 | DTRemenak | "I'll kill you...then I'll sue you, for good measure!" |
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| 06:25.00 | codergeek42 | Absolutely no thanks whatsoever to whoever's abso-fricking-lutely bright idea it was to bump the effects at BZFX. That used to be my favorite server/map but now is hardly playable (single-digit FPS). I would greatly appreciate these changes being reverted. Thanks. |
| 06:25.36 | codergeek42 | (And I've fiddled with the options. That gives abotu a ~5 FPS increase if at all...) |
| 06:28.30 | codergeek42 | thanks for the fix! |
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| 06:40.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ScoreboardRenderer.cxx: don't show normalized scores for observers |
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| 08:52.51 | Flash | is there a simple tool/technique for creating a patch? |
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| 09:05.32 | ts | Ciao Tupone |
| 09:05.51 | ts | Flash: Yes, there are easy ways |
| 09:06.17 | Flash | cool. I guess I asked the wrong question |
| 09:06.21 | Tupone | ciao ts |
| 09:06.23 | ts | Like cd to the checkout dir, then type cvs diff -u > file.patch |
| 09:06.28 | Flash | what is the easiest way to create a patch ;-) |
| 09:06.36 | ts | Flash: I'm a slow typer :p |
| 09:06.46 | ts | FLash: Read above ;) |
| 09:07.42 | Flash | cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option |
| 09:08.01 | Tupone | you probably not are on the checked out directory |
| 09:08.17 | Tupone | s/not are/are not/ |
| 09:08.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/BUGS: Ricos don't work in replays |
| 09:08.47 | Flash | ok... when I do my checkout, I am a level above (it creates the bzflag dir) |
| 09:08.59 | ts | then cd bzflag |
| 09:09.00 | Flash | but I guess I need to be in the bzflag dir for the -u |
| 09:09.08 | ts | right |
| 09:11.28 | Flash | how do I remove a file (it doesn't appear that just deleting it works for diff -u) |
| 09:11.59 | ts | I don't know, I didn't need to yet |
| 09:12.32 | Flash | ok, last question (for now)... having created a patch, what do I do with it? |
| 09:13.34 | Tupone | Flash: remove a file then cvs remove file.name |
| 09:13.46 | Tupone | use sf to post it |
| 09:13.47 | ts | You can apply them with the patch utility |
| 09:14.01 | ts | if that is what you mean |
| 09:14.14 | ts | to another copy of the source |
| 09:14.24 | Flash | Tupone: cvs [server aborted]: "remove" requires write access to the repository |
| 09:14.43 | ts | if you want the devs to have a look at your patch then you should post it at sourceforge.net |
| 09:15.49 | Tupone | Flash: then you cannot :) |
| 09:15.56 | ts | heh |
| 09:16.12 | Flash | ok, but if removing the file is part of the patch... ?? |
| 09:16.36 | Tupone | hehe, why that? are you sure it does not work without removing? |
| 09:17.14 | Flash | I looked at the patch file and there's no evidence that it recorded the removal of the file |
| 09:19.15 | Tupone | I mean, you patched code does not work if you have the file deleted there? |
| 09:19.19 | Tupone | your |
| 09:19.21 | ts | Tupone: When you did that shot changes, did you test whether shots are still working in replays? |
| 09:19.40 | Tupone | replay? what is replay :) |
| 09:20.06 | ts | Tupone: Is that a no? :/ |
| 09:20.21 | Tupone | yes, it was a no |
| 09:20.40 | Flash | Tupone: the code works; the file is documentation that is obsoleted. |
| 09:20.55 | ts | Tupone: I'm tracing when the problems are beginning..it's been a long time at least |
| 09:21.19 | Tupone | add a note into the sf tracker |
| 09:21.34 | ts | Tupone: Now we have a potential release blocker :( |
| 09:21.57 | ts | Tupone: brlcad said we're targeting for an end january release |
| 09:22.13 | Tupone | aww .... a gift for my birthday :) |
| 09:22.32 | ts | Tupone: Do me a gift and fix it :p |
| 09:30.49 | ts | Tupone: I have no idea how the replay mode works :( |
| 09:31.11 | Tupone | neither do I, never seen |
| 09:31.37 | Tupone | but my guess is that it should not so difficult to make it work again |
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| 10:12.44 | brlcad | ts: still only if we're "ready" to ship something useful, but it's a target nonetheless |
| 10:16.10 | Tupone | hola brlcad |
| 10:26.10 | Tupone | ping brlcad |
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| 11:22.38 | ts | brlcad: I didn't stated the opposite ;) |
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| 11:43.36 | namour | bonjour |
| 11:43.59 | namour | hello |
| 11:44.12 | Tupone | bonjour |
| 11:44.23 | PuMpErNiCkEl | bonjour |
| 11:44.27 | Tupone | ca va? |
| 11:44.34 | namour | ca va! |
| 11:44.46 | namour | je suis nouvea, g decouvert le jeu hier |
| 11:45.09 | Tupone | bon |
| 11:45.20 | namour | et j'ai plein de question |
| 11:45.37 | Tupone | anglais |
| 11:45.50 | namour | non français |
| 11:45.53 | namour | et toi? |
| 11:46.00 | Tupone | italien |
| 11:46.17 | Tupone | je ne parle pa francaise |
| 11:46.31 | namour | ok, do you speak english |
| 11:46.37 | Tupone | yep |
| 11:47.18 | namour | ok, so when I create a server, I have always the same map! |
| 11:47.52 | Tupone | you are playing alone? not with the net server? there are a plenty out of there |
| 11:48.22 | namour | Yes but i try to create a private server with me and my friends |
| 11:48.47 | namour | But I don't know how choosen an other map |
| 11:49.17 | namour | bonjour PuMpErNiCkEl |
| 11:49.28 | Tupone | ahh, there are some map under the misc directory |
| 11:49.41 | Tupone | like hix.bzw |
| 11:49.53 | Tupone | well, only that |
| 11:50.33 | namour | yes but I have only hix.bzw.gz |
| 11:50.45 | Tupone | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=423059&group_id=3248&func=browse |
| 11:50.55 | Tupone | here there are some extra maps |
| 11:52.37 | namour | Yes, I download a map and move this map in the directory but I have always the same map |
| 11:53.00 | Tupone | do you start bzfs by command line? |
| 11:53.39 | namour | Sorry, I go eat |
| 11:53.51 | Tupone | ./bzfs --world name of file |
| 11:53.53 | Tupone | cya |
| 11:54.05 | Tupone | ./bzfs -world name of file |
| 11:54.08 | Tupone | :) |
| 12:25.43 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Questions en francais? |
| 12:29.01 | namour | yes |
| 12:29.02 | namour | oui |
| 12:29.06 | namour | tu es francais |
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| 12:32.44 | namour | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.15 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Non, Canadian, mais je peut parler francais. |
| 12:34.01 | namour | ok, merci |
| 12:34.23 | namour | bon alors je n'arrive pas a créer un reseau avec une autre carte que celle par default |
| 12:34.38 | namour | et lorsque j'en telecharge une je sais pas ou la mettre |
| 12:35.17 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Est-ce que t'as sauve une carte utilisant le fonction dans le client? |
| 12:39.11 | namour | nan, je sais pas de quoi tu parles |
| 12:39.15 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Lorsque tu joues, tu peux faire ca par peser sur 'esc'... 'options' -> 'save world' |
| 12:40.25 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Ca sauvegarde la carte sur laquelle tu joues. |
| 12:41.46 | namour | okok |
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| 12:42.42 | namour | exact |
| 12:42.54 | namour | bas la je viens de voir ou ce trouver les cartes! |
| 12:43.47 | PuMpErNiCkEl | :) |
| 12:44.12 | namour | donc je suppose qu'en les rajoutant dans le repertoire precis, il devras me les proposer! |
| 12:44.17 | namour | merci bien :D |
| 12:44.45 | PuMpErNiCkEl | de rien |
| 12:51.17 | namour | en effet, je peux rajouter les cartes dans le repertoire |
| 12:51.35 | namour | et le client me les propose lors du lancement d'un serveur , parcontre le serveur ne se lance pas |
| 12:53.40 | namour | il me met une erreur |
| 12:53.56 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Le serveur n'est pas toujours installe avec le client. |
| 12:54.25 | namour | en fait orsque je lance bzflag, ya le jeu qui se lance |
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| 12:58.53 | namour | donc je dit que je veut creer un serveur |
| 12:59.01 | namour | et la je choisi la carte et ca plante |
| 13:00.21 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Est-ce que c'est sur Windows ou Linux? (Ou bien quelque chose d'autre?) |
| 13:00.28 | namour | linux |
| 13:00.58 | namour | mais par contre si je lance le serveur sur une carte enregistré sur un autre serveur ca marche |
| 13:01.42 | PuMpErNiCkEl | hm |
| 13:03.13 | PuMpErNiCkEl | J'ai eu des difficultes avec le client ou ca plantait de temps en temps, aussi sur Linux, mais je ne les ai pas resous encore. |
| 13:05.30 | namour | hum, mais a tu reussia telecharger une carte et à la lancer en temps que serveur? |
| 13:07.02 | PuMpErNiCkEl | Non, mais je n'ai jamais essayer. o.O |
| 13:07.32 | namour | ok, donc en fait toi tu recupérer les cartes en allant sur un serveur et en enregistrant la carte |
| 13:09.51 | namour | je crois que c'est parceque les cartes que je telecharge sont pour la version 2.0.4 et moi je sios à la 2.0.8 |
| 13:15.08 | namour | merci quand meme |
| 13:15.15 | namour | a + |
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| 13:58.58 | giskard_ | hello :) |
| 13:59.05 | giskard_ | i have some problems with my js |
| 13:59.40 | giskard_ | when i try to use it with bzflag i can go right/left but not up/down |
| 14:00.08 | giskard_ | if i cat the device and i press the up/down buttons i see an *event* |
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| 15:19.46 | A-Delusion | giskard use options>>input settings |
| 15:30.59 | giskard | A-Delusion, already did it. button 1 2 3 4 work fine, idem left-right |
| 15:32.28 | A-Delusion | I use the keyboard myself... |
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| 16:22.49 | bz10 | HELLO |
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| 16:57.08 | Gnurdux | hi Theme97 master_tux |
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| 17:25.35 | A-Delusion | hello gnurdux, we're looking at expanding the use of your mapchange plugin soon. |
| 17:25.55 | Gnurdux | cool.. what do you want me to add? |
| 17:26.27 | A-Delusion | anybody can change the map, only if they're the only player there |
| 17:26.41 | A-Delusion | leave groups alone otherwise |
| 17:27.16 | A-Delusion | err, registered players, not anybody |
| 17:27.56 | tannerld | lol |
| 17:28.23 | A-Delusion | if i had that, I'd putt 100 maps on a server, sortof like a working map library |
| 17:28.48 | A-Delusion | that anyone could use |
| 17:28.59 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 17:29.04 | Gnurdux | that sounds like not a bad idea |
| 17:29.20 | Gnurdux | so if someone is the only player, they can change the map.... |
| 17:29.32 | A-Delusion | registered. |
| 17:29.41 | Gnurdux | you could do that with a seperate plugin... which could have more functionality... |
| 17:29.58 | Gnurdux | to generally grant extra permissions if somebody is the only player on |
| 17:30.11 | A-Delusion | hmm. |
| 17:31.37 | A-Delusion | hmmm could just use -mp 1 i suppose too.... now that i think of it |
| 17:32.41 | A-Delusion | server would be completely full or totally empty.. |
| 17:32.58 | Gnurdux | -mp 1? |
| 17:33.04 | A-Delusion | max players |
| 17:33.28 | Gnurdux | wouldnt that mean the only one person could play at once? |
| 17:34.20 | A-Delusion | maybe just 2... if there's players, and you grant the perm to anyone, they restart the server for fun |
| 17:34.41 | A-Delusion | somebody gets angry and kills the fun for everyone. |
| 17:35.35 | tannerld | a vote? |
| 17:36.34 | A-Delusion | that sux too, but with 100 maps, no one could decide, random maps wont work ither |
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| 17:38.56 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, a plugin to grant perms would be reasonable? |
| 17:41.15 | A-Delusion | why not just give mapchange perms to registered, and limit players to 2 or 3, at least for a library server.. that's enough for a few players to conference |
| 17:44.39 | A-Delusion | but if only a single player was there when the change happened, he could use it as a library, and I could still have a high player limit |
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| 17:45.31 | A-Delusion | so once the game began in earnest, it would be locked into that map until everybody left, or an admin changed it |
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| 17:46.27 | Gnurdux | library? |
| 17:47.05 | Gnurdux | ohhh |
| 17:47.06 | Gnurdux | i see |
| 17:47.07 | A-Delusion | so once other players joined, the original player would be locked out of library functions |
| 17:47.18 | Gnurdux | have library as one of the available confs.... |
| 17:47.34 | Gnurdux | the one thats always started, and the only one with mapchange available for most people |
| 17:47.42 | Gnurdux | and with a 1 player limit |
| 17:47.44 | Gnurdux | correct? |
| 17:48.08 | A-Delusion | no, no 1 player limit, the plugin knows when there's only one, and grants the perm |
| 17:48.16 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 17:48.19 | A-Delusion | I want a high player limit on all confs |
| 17:48.26 | Gnurdux | this could be a second plugin tho |
| 17:49.05 | A-Delusion | if you say so.. |
| 17:49.27 | Gnurdux | yea i could write that plugin right now |
| 17:49.37 | Gnurdux | you have the source for OpenLeague version of mapchange? |
| 17:49.37 | A-Delusion | sounds like a plan |
| 17:49.57 | A-Delusion | my mapchange source is maybe 3 months old, guessing |
| 17:50.11 | Gnurdux | i dont think its been changed since then |
| 17:51.25 | A-Delusion | I'm gonna set it up for The Purple Panzer this week |
| 17:53.30 | Gnurdux | ok |
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| 18:25.03 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, do your unregistered users have TALK perm? |
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| 18:26.52 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, i really need to go soon, you there? |
| 18:27.31 | A-Delusion | umm.. sometimes |
| 18:27.37 | Gnurdux | ill use SAY perm |
| 18:27.49 | A-Delusion | as the mapchange perm? |
| 18:28.08 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 18:28.17 | A-Delusion | works for me |
| 18:35.47 | Gnurdux | ok lemme send you the current source youll have to test |
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| 19:11.49 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, you just load it |
| 19:12.01 | Gnurdux | with the arg of the lern yoou wnat it to selectively grant |
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| 19:13.15 | A-Delusion | lern? |
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| 19:15.42 | A-Delusion | gnurdux, i didnt get that cpp |
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| 19:45.29 | ts | JeffM2501, Manu: Does one of you know when ricos in replays have been broken? |
| 19:45.44 | JeffM2501 | in what version? |
| 19:45.49 | ts | cvs head |
| 19:46.01 | JeffM2501 | check the history see when it changed |
| 19:46.08 | JeffM2501 | it was probably an accedent |
| 19:46.14 | JeffM2501 | or can you just fix it? |
| 19:46.37 | ts | I don't know about the replay code, so I have currently no clue how to fix |
| 19:46.50 | JeffM2501 | check the history on it then |
| 19:46.53 | JeffM2501 | see who changed what |
| 19:46.57 | JeffM2501 | or report it in the bugs |
| 19:47.01 | ts | My idea was to trace the dates to find out when it broke |
| 19:47.03 | JeffM2501 | and somone else will look at it |
| 19:47.18 | ts | I've reported it in bugs as it is quite important |
| 19:47.22 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:47.29 | JeffM2501 | if you want to do it then track it down :) |
| 19:47.56 | JeffM2501 | fun with diffs :) |
| 19:48.06 | ts | I'm trying to but I thought I may ask before I spent all my time ;) |
| 19:48.26 | JeffM2501 | it would be rare that someone knows when it was busted, and they not have fixed it |
| 19:49.07 | ts | it happened with the sealed code |
| 19:49.32 | ts | and - last time I tested it - it still didn't work |
| 19:49.45 | ts | once I get stuck I get never unstuck again |
| 19:49.47 | JeffM2501 | well code dosn't magicaly fix itself :) |
| 19:50.14 | ts | I thought it would |
| 19:50.17 | ts | j/k |
| 19:51.07 | JeffM2501 | the commits list may be a good place to start |
| 19:51.23 | JeffM2501 | I usualy just browse the history in my cvs client tho |
| 19:51.36 | ts | The sf mailing list lacks a lot of entries |
| 19:51.59 | JeffM2501 | thats why I browse this history :) |
| 19:52.01 | ts | heh, my cs client is cvs |
| 19:52.31 | JeffM2501 | can it browse and diff the history? |
| 19:53.23 | ts | would be new to me |
| 19:53.46 | ts | but I hardly know about its features |
| 19:54.46 | JeffM2501 | what OS you on? |
| 19:56.34 | ts | OS X |
| 19:56.52 | JeffM2501 | hmm, don't know what other cvs c lients exist for that |
| 19:56.57 | JeffM2501 | maybe the port of winCVS |
| 19:57.29 | JeffM2501 | there was a SVN client with finder integration, but not cvs :( |
| 19:58.21 | ts | actually for remote tasks prefer CLI but bad when I don't know its features :/ |
| 20:03.48 | ts | ah..man page says it does history |
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| 20:20.25 | JeffM2501 | silly CIA |
| 20:21.00 | master_tux | Jeff do you own linux at all? |
| 20:21.17 | JeffM2501 | noone OWNS linux ;) |
| 20:21.31 | JeffM2501 | I have a couple installs of it on a couple machines |
| 20:21.39 | master_tux | Which distros? |
| 20:21.45 | JeffM2501 | debian mostly |
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| 20:22.00 | JeffM2501 | think my desktop still has an ubuntu install on it as well |
| 20:22.11 | master_tux | Are you satisfied with the operation of Windows? |
| 20:22.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:22.35 | master_tux | ok, I just like to know what some people think |
| 20:22.36 | JeffM2501 | for what I use it for, it works well |
| 20:22.44 | JeffM2501 | same for OSX |
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| 20:24.15 | OO7 | ? |
| 20:24.23 | CBG | ! |
| 20:24.26 | master_tux | hi 007 |
| 20:24.31 | master_tux | :( |
| 20:24.47 | CBG | Way to go, master_tux... scare the dude off... |
| 20:29.51 | JeffM2501 | damn, there isn't an RSS feed for commits |
| 20:33.49 | randomparticle | wincvs is cvsgui? |
| 20:33.59 | JeffM2501 | yeah they changed names to something like that |
| 20:34.05 | randomparticle | that is, the windows port thereof |
| 20:34.07 | JeffM2501 | cus they are more then windows now |
| 20:34.12 | JeffM2501 | on windows I don't use that tho |
| 20:34.34 | randomparticle | cvsgui on the mac is named maccvs, startlingly :) |
| 20:34.36 | JeffM2501 | it's all about TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN |
| 20:35.58 | CBG | Turtles rock so much more! :P |
| 20:36.12 | master_tux | I prefer penguins |
| 20:36.29 | randomparticle | do you know much about glunurbs, jeff? |
| 20:36.57 | CBG | Gerbils suck... |
| 20:37.19 | master_tux | So do vaccums, yet people still use them.... |
| 20:37.41 | CBG | People "use" gerbils?! Whatever for? |
| 20:37.51 | randomparticle | gerbilling |
| 20:37.54 | master_tux | I think you can get an idea ;) |
| 20:38.27 | CBG | :o |
| 20:38.29 | JeffM2501 | nurbs as in surfaces? |
| 20:38.33 | JeffM2501 | and splines? |
| 20:38.37 | CBG | When will this horror end!? |
| 20:38.50 | master_tux | Whenever Bush leaves office |
| 20:39.15 | randomparticle | yeah. say i have nurbs loop drawn on a plane. can i use the glunurbs functions to fill it? |
| 20:39.45 | randomparticle | i.e., in much the same way as the glu tesselators can be used for polylines |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM2501 | dunno |
| 20:39.52 | JeffM2501 | check the redbook |
| 20:39.59 | randomparticle | have done |
| 20:40.01 | JeffM2501 | why you doing nurbs? |
| 20:40.04 | JeffM2501 | thems is slow |
| 20:40.29 | randomparticle | am beginning to wonder myself. the glu functions are incredibly ugly |
| 20:40.40 | JeffM2501 | most are |
| 20:40.44 | JeffM2501 | they were not made for games |
| 20:40.47 | master_tux | *boom* |
| 20:40.54 | JeffM2501 | but just for brute force stuff |
| 20:41.01 | JeffM2501 | what are you doing with splines? |
| 20:41.20 | master_tux | I have a spline. Without it, my brain would fall out of my arse |
| 20:41.25 | randomparticle | i wanted to cut shapes out of an image |
| 20:41.38 | JeffM2501 | if it's static, fastest is to segment it and put those segments into a list |
| 20:42.06 | JeffM2501 | master_tux, please don't |
| 20:42.20 | randomparticle | and then manipulate those shapes |
| 20:42.20 | JeffM2501 | randomparticle, and you don't want to use an alpha mask? |
| 20:42.46 | randomparticle | i could do, but i still have to define the alpha zero areas |
| 20:42.54 | JeffM2501 | it's called a bitmap :) |
| 20:43.05 | randomparticle | yeah, but the shapes are not predefined |
| 20:43.21 | randomparticle | so i have to generate them on the fly |
| 20:43.29 | JeffM2501 | every frame? or when it changes? |
| 20:44.04 | randomparticle | imagine squeeze/distortion effects in an image editing program |
| 20:44.14 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's only a one shot thing |
| 20:44.25 | JeffM2501 | you save off the result |
| 20:44.35 | JeffM2501 | or are you doing it to a dynamic shape every fame? |
| 20:44.43 | randomparticle | that's the idea |
| 20:44.57 | JeffM2501 | that's gonna be realy slow |
| 20:45.00 | randomparticle | you pull on this control point here, and voila |
| 20:45.02 | JeffM2501 | better to use shaders |
| 20:45.32 | randomparticle | i'm not keen on shaders at the moment. there are platform issues etc |
| 20:45.43 | JeffM2501 | does this need to be fast? |
| 20:45.49 | randomparticle | not particularly |
| 20:45.50 | JeffM2501 | or is it like an editor? |
| 20:45.57 | JeffM2501 | then just segment yourself |
| 20:46.01 | JeffM2501 | and make it a line loop |
| 20:46.08 | JeffM2501 | then maybe you can cache some of it |
| 20:46.41 | randomparticle | what's the best way of cacheing (sp?) ? |
| 20:46.56 | randomparticle | offscreen buffers? |
| 20:46.57 | JeffM2501 | assloads of ram :) |
| 20:47.06 | JeffM2501 | that or lists |
| 20:47.08 | master_tux | 0_0 |
| 20:47.58 | JeffM2501 | or VBAs if you want to go that far |
| 20:48.19 | master_tux | w/e im playing bzflag at some server if someone wants to play. peace out |
| 20:48.56 | JeffM2501 | who is that guy? |
| 20:49.08 | randomparticle | dunno |
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| 20:49.45 | Gnurdux | Admirarch, you there? |
| 20:49.55 | Gnurdux | whoops i meant A-Delusion |
| 20:49.57 | Gnurdux | sry bout that |
| 20:50.39 | randomparticle | are textures a bit rubbish for manipulating images? |
| 20:51.00 | JeffM2501 | depends on the resoultion and accuracy you want |
| 20:51.15 | JeffM2501 | using textures then asking GL to give you back the image will not always be the same on difrent cards |
| 20:51.19 | randomparticle | i'm not sure they downsize smartly |
| 20:51.30 | JeffM2501 | depends on that card, and the blend mode you choise |
| 20:51.38 | JeffM2501 | aniso can look good |
| 20:51.40 | JeffM2501 | realy good |
| 20:51.50 | JeffM2501 | is your goal something like photoshop? |
| 20:51.54 | JeffM2501 | or quick and dirty? |
| 20:51.55 | randomparticle | oh no |
| 20:52.20 | randomparticle | nothing like photoshop |
| 20:52.27 | JeffM2501 | I mean in repeatablilty |
| 20:52.42 | JeffM2501 | do the results need to be exactly the same on every system? |
| 20:52.45 | randomparticle | no |
| 20:52.53 | JeffM2501 | then textures may be fine |
| 20:52.59 | JeffM2501 | if your ok with there image limits |
| 20:53.08 | JeffM2501 | have you looked at devIL? |
| 20:53.17 | randomparticle | no |
| 20:53.24 | JeffM2501 | it's an imaging library with GL bindings |
| 20:53.35 | JeffM2501 | makes dealing with them prety easy |
| 20:53.41 | JeffM2501 | and also using GL for display |
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| 20:53.45 | randomparticle | i see |
| 20:53.49 | JeffM2501 | even has some image manipulation features |
| 20:53.54 | randomparticle | on the mac we have core image. |
| 20:54.07 | randomparticle | i'm not sure if there's any overlap |
| 20:54.16 | JeffM2501 | devil is cross platform |
| 20:54.21 | JeffM2501 | but I dunno |
| 20:54.24 | JeffM2501 | it's prety easy to use |
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| 20:59.06 | Gnurdux | g2g agaom |
| 20:59.07 | randomparticle | really, some of this glu stuff is a bit tedious to code in. 11 function calls just to tesselate a simple polygon |
| 20:59.22 | randomparticle | i guess once one has wrapper functions written, it's not so bad |
| 20:59.50 | JeffM2501 | thats why people write high level engines :) |
| 21:01.40 | randomparticle | still, you can draw a teapot in one line :) |
| 21:01.47 | randomparticle | oh wait, no! |
| 21:01.50 | randomparticle | that's glut! |
| 21:02.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah glut has higher level prims |
| 21:02.21 | randomparticle | where's it going now. GL, GLU, GLUT, GLUT...? |
| 21:02.32 | randomparticle | gluttoneous? |
| 21:02.33 | JeffM2501 | GLEW |
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| 21:02.50 | randomparticle | *gluttonous |
| 21:03.08 | randomparticle | is GLUT GPL'd? |
| 21:03.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah, prety sure |
| 21:03.30 | JeffM2501 | maybe lgpl |
| 21:03.52 | randomparticle | why don't you like glut? |
| 21:04.04 | JeffM2501 | don't like the API |
| 21:04.07 | JeffM2501 | it's not clean |
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| 21:24.12 | KAIRE | ELLO |
| 21:24.17 | KAIRE | HELLO |
| 21:24.33 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 21:24.42 | KAIRE | YOU SPIKE ITALIAN?? |
| 21:24.49 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:25.32 | Tupone | SPIKE? che vuol dire? |
| 21:25.44 | KAIRE | SEI ITALIANO |
| 21:25.46 | KAIRE | ? |
| 21:26.06 | Tupone | un po', ma non usare le lettere MAIUSCOLE |
| 21:26.30 | KAIRE | TI PIACE QUESTO GIOCO?? |
| 21:26.42 | KAIRE | IO OGGI MI SONO ISCRITTO |
| 21:26.46 | randomparticle | non male |
| 21:26.57 | Tupone | SMETTI DI USARE LE LETTERE MAIUSCOLE, per favore :) |
| 21:27.00 | KAIRE | MA NN HO CAPITO LO SCOPO DEL GIOKO |
| 21:27.03 | KAIRE | SI DEVE FARE |
| 21:27.08 | KAIRE | ?? |
| 21:27.13 | spldart | caps? |
| 21:27.15 | KAIRE | OK |
| 21:27.29 | KAIRE | volevo sapere |
| 21:27.40 | KAIRE | lo scopo del gioko |
| 21:27.48 | KAIRE | quale lo socpo del gioko?? |
| 21:27.48 | Tupone | dipende dal mondo in cui sei |
| 21:28.05 | KAIRE | ma per parlare con i altri mentre combatti |
| 21:28.08 | KAIRE | me si fa?? |
| 21:28.13 | Tupone | se non ci sono bandiere colorate, spara a tutti meno che ai tuoi compagni |
| 21:28.22 | Tupone | N per parlare a tutti |
| 21:28.39 | KAIRE | ah ok |
| 21:28.49 | KAIRE | ma te che versione usi?? |
| 21:28.50 | Tupone | M per parlare con i tuoi compagni |
| 21:28.57 | Tupone | tutte :) |
| 21:29.03 | KAIRE | ke pc hai?? |
| 21:29.07 | spldart | Non so |
| 21:29.11 | KAIRE | vioe ke programma?? |
| 21:29.14 | KAIRE | cioe* |
| 21:29.22 | KAIRE | windows o mac?? |
| 21:29.23 | Tupone | linux ? |
| 21:29.25 | Tupone | :) |
| 21:29.34 | KAIRE | io ho 1 mac os x |
| 21:29.40 | KAIRE | e posso |
| 21:29.42 | Tupone | ne hai 2? |
| 21:29.46 | KAIRE | usare solo la versione |
| 21:29.52 | KAIRE | 2.0.2 |
| 21:30.03 | KAIRE | ma poi cosa cambia?? |
| 21:30.15 | KAIRE | tra la 2.0.2 e la 2.0.8 |
| 21:30.19 | KAIRE | ?? |
| 21:30.24 | Tupone | niente di importante qualche errore corretto |
| 21:30.53 | KAIRE | ma te sei bravo a questo gioco |
| 21:30.54 | KAIRE | ma te sei bravo a questo gioco?? |
| 21:31.05 | Tupone | C'e un file chiamato ChangeLog se vuoi sapere |
| 21:31.23 | Tupone | ma che c'e' l'eco ? |
| 21:31.23 | KAIRE | ke kose |
| 21:31.25 | KAIRE | ? |
| 21:31.32 | Tupone | un file con i cambiamenti |
| 21:31.32 | KAIRE | si |
| 21:31.38 | KAIRE | XD |
| 21:31.54 | KAIRE | vogliamo fare 1 duello |
| 21:31.57 | KAIRE | uesto gioko?? |
| 21:32.02 | KAIRE | questo* |
| 21:32.13 | Tupone | sono abbastanza bravo quando ho il joystick. Ora e' rotto |
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| 21:32.36 | KAIRE | fa ninte kosi mi dAI 1 PO DI VANTAGGIO |
| 21:32.59 | KAIRE | dimmi 1 server vuoto kosi facciamo 1 duello |
| 21:33.09 | Tupone | dun.bzflag.org porta 5154 |
| 21:33.12 | Tupone | dub |
| 21:33.25 | KAIRE | ok andiamo io prendo |
| 21:33.30 | KAIRE | colore rosso |
| 21:33.36 | KAIRE | te prendi verde |
| 21:33.37 | KAIRE | diamo |
| 21:33.41 | KAIRE | andiamo |
| 21:37.28 | JeffM2501 | since we have no CIA, I'll mention that somone on the nix side will have to check my changes to the makefile for the flagStay plugin |
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| 21:37.59 | KAIRE | ciao |
| 21:38.07 | KAIRE | ci 6??? |
| 21:38.13 | KAIRE | rispondi pls |
| 21:38.19 | JeffM2501 | that wasn't for you |
| 21:38.34 | KAIRE | you spike italian?? |
| 21:38.37 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:38.43 | KAIRE | ok |
| 21:38.55 | JeffM2501 | Tupone is the only italian I know :) |
| 21:39.21 | KAIRE | duell?? |
| 21:39.42 | JeffM2501 | blast007, you around? |
| 21:40.15 | spldart | what would need to be done to test the linux makefile? |
| 21:40.25 | JeffM2501 | build from head I think |
| 21:40.29 | spldart | I'm working on server but could reboot this machine to linux if you would like |
| 21:40.32 | JeffM2501 | with plugins enabled |
| 21:40.37 | JeffM2501 | it's no rush, it's head |
| 21:40.40 | JeffM2501 | so somone will find it |
| 21:40.44 | spldart | hehe |
| 21:41.02 | spldart | Has much time past? it takes a bit for machines to sync |
| 21:41.04 | JeffM2501 | I added the dir to the file I thought I had to add to, but I always forget something or another |
| 21:41.07 | spldart | like one to two hours |
| 21:41.19 | JeffM2501 | it was added like 40 min ago |
| 21:41.52 | JeffM2501 | tho if you checkout you'll get all the other changes, and have to prety much do a full rebuild |
| 21:42.00 | spldart | hrm.... I could try but would rather give it to 60 min before I do to make sure I get latest code... but wouldn't mind helping otherwise ;~) |
| 21:42.01 | JeffM2501 | I moved the debug loging up to head too |
| 21:42.14 | spldart | full rebuild is fine... dual amd bartons build pretty fast |
| 21:42.52 | JeffM2501 | it's geting hard to find 939 chips now |
| 21:43.05 | L4m3r | :| |
| 21:43.07 | spldart | I know it's no rush and there are plenty of others but I'll reboot and do a cvs checkout :) |
| 21:43.16 | JeffM2501 | it's all AM2 or nothin |
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| 21:44.38 | L4m3r | pfft, no one wants AMD right now anyway :) |
| 21:44.56 | JeffM2501 | not for high end |
| 21:45.01 | L4m3r | only processor upgrades... |
| 21:45.09 | JeffM2501 | they are cheaper tho |
| 21:45.54 | L4m3r | those Core 2 Duos are still hard to resist unless you've already got an AMD mobo ;) |
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| 21:46.43 | L4m3r | I am thoroughly impressed by my core 2 laptop |
| 21:46.56 | spldart | k.. checking out head fresh |
| 21:47.04 | L4m3r | first time I've seen one that can keep up with an equivalent desktop |
| 21:47.14 | L4m3r | or, a decent desktop for that matter |
| 21:47.25 | JeffM2501 | ram speed has prety much capped, so they don't gimp the lapys |
| 21:47.42 | spldart | how would you like configure done... exactly? |
| 21:47.52 | JeffM2501 | I just want to make sure I didn't break the build |
| 21:47.58 | JeffM2501 | so whatever you do normaly |
| 21:48.20 | spldart | ok.. configure with no -'s |
| 21:48.43 | spldart | server would be configure --disable-client but this is my work/play hard rig |
| 21:49.55 | spldart | No complaints from configure.. sure you din't need --enable-plugins? |
| 21:50.11 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how it works on nix |
| 21:50.16 | JeffM2501 | I added a plugin |
| 21:50.21 | JeffM2501 | and that always seems to break something |
| 21:50.27 | spldart | k.. I'll reconfigure with enable plugins |
| 21:51.00 | spldart | how can i know if my snapshot of head is upto what you need? |
| 21:51.29 | spldart | doesn't seem broke still.. shall I 'make' |
| 21:51.34 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 21:51.44 | JeffM2501 | do you have the flagStay dir in the plugins? |
| 21:53.42 | spldart | bzflag/plugins I see no flagStay... I go from fixedspawn to hiddenadmin |
| 21:53.55 | JeffM2501 | then it hasn't updated yet :) |
| 21:53.56 | spldart | maybe cvs needs more time to get update |
| 21:53.57 | JeffM2501 | no bigie |
| 21:54.00 | spldart | k... |
| 21:54.08 | spldart | I'll try again in a bit |
| 21:54.12 | spldart | :-D |
| 21:57.11 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:57.20 | JeffM2501 | just hope it's before I break the rest of this stuff :) |
| 21:59.45 | JeffM2501 | aww man, we don't have a pack function for a double? |
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| 22:01.50 | spldart | to much heat.. to much load on psu so I'm adding an automatically triggered variable supply for the fans so the main is overwhelmed by the HDD;s |
| 22:02.40 | JeffM2501 | just go get one of the older CM stacker cases |
| 22:02.46 | JeffM2501 | it has places for 2 PSs |
| 22:06.55 | spldart | heh... gotta make do with what I got... money is tight.. the only server case I have in the house has my dually and the extra space is for the liquid cooling portion |
| 22:24.59 | Gnurdux | hi A-Delusion |
| 22:25.21 | spldart | retrying head |
| 22:25.35 | A-Delusion | gnurdux, hello |
| 22:25.47 | Gnurdux | try accepting it |
| 22:26.24 | Gnurdux | try the second |
| 22:26.43 | Gnurdux | yay it worked! |
| 22:27.04 | A-Delusion | too bad i dnt know where xchat put it... |
| 22:27.19 | Gnurdux | ~/.xchat2/downloads |
| 22:27.43 | Gnurdux | and you just pass the permission you want it to grant as an argument |
| 22:27.49 | Gnurdux | i havent tested it at all though |
| 22:28.23 | spldart | I have flagstay now Jeff... I'm 'make' ing now.... |
| 22:28.36 | spldart | no errors from configure |
| 22:28.49 | spldart | well... I should say that... haven't looked through the log careful |
| 22:28.59 | spldart | s/shouldn't/should |
| 22:28.59 | JeffM2501 | well that's a good sign :) |
| 22:29.12 | A-Delusion | I'll have to pass it on to someone else for compiling on my server |
| 22:29.22 | A-Delusion | before testing |
| 22:31.30 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 22:31.34 | Gnurdux | why cant you compile it? |
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| 22:34.24 | A-Delusion | I could, but am not going to. |
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| 22:34.55 | A-Delusion | I have a person that maintains bzfs, etc on my server, i want him to do it |
| 22:35.42 | A-Delusion | I'm too shaky on compiling to risk it. |
| 22:36.28 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 22:36.34 | Gnurdux | i guess ill have to test :\ |
| 22:36.49 | A-Delusion | he doesnt appear to be around atm |
| 22:36.57 | Gnurdux | who is it? |
| 22:37.01 | Gnurdux | Thumper? |
| 22:37.07 | A-Delusion | yep |
| 22:37.23 | Gnurdux | gnurdux.homelinux.net:5155 |
| 22:37.27 | Gnurdux | wait |
| 22:37.38 | Gnurdux | come and join |
| 22:37.40 | spldart | If make ends with no bad errors can i assume your test is complete Jeff? |
| 22:37.55 | Gnurdux | hmm wait |
| 22:38.05 | Gnurdux | cya ina few mins |
| 22:38.14 | JeffM2501 | spldart, yup, thanks |
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| 22:42.03 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I'm around now ;) whatcha need? |
| 22:42.27 | JeffM2501 | had a question |
| 22:43.00 | JeffM2501 | do you think it'd be possible to have there be another phpbb on my.bzflag.org that had it's own set of fourms and stuff, but pulled from the current "main" users |
| 22:43.16 | blast007 | it would be "fun" |
| 22:43.22 | JeffM2501 | good fun? or bad fun? |
| 22:43.34 | blast007 | it'd be a mod |
| 22:43.41 | blast007 | I think there is already a mod for that though |
| 22:43.57 | JeffM2501 | be nice to be able to give a leauge a seperate subfourm |
| 22:44.16 | JeffM2501 | like in my.bzflag.org/sites/leagues/YOURLEAUGE |
| 22:44.22 | JeffM2501 | but not let them do user management |
| 22:45.00 | blast007 | or even hosted.bzflag.org/YOURLEAGUE |
| 22:45.03 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 22:45.05 | CBG | They can't have a subforum of the existing phpbb..? |
| 22:45.13 | JeffM2501 | CBG, yes, but that is only one thing |
| 22:45.18 | JeffM2501 | they may want more then one subsection |
| 22:45.29 | CBG | So, they can... |
| 22:45.36 | blast007 | many leagues use web-league though, which has it's own forum |
| 22:45.42 | JeffM2501 | we can't nest them in phpbb |
| 22:45.44 | CBG | That too. |
| 22:45.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:45.51 | JeffM2501 | but it's weak |
| 22:45.55 | blast007 | JeffM2501: the hard part would be the admin stuff |
| 22:45.57 | CBG | Can't have hidden categories? |
| 22:46.02 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:46.10 | blast007 | they'd either have admin, or they wouldn't |
| 22:46.10 | JeffM2501 | phpbb dosn't let me do a tree |
| 22:46.12 | CBG | that sucks... |
| 22:46.15 | JeffM2501 | if it could then I'd just do that |
| 22:46.17 | blast007 | there isn't fancy permissions in phpBB |
| 22:47.02 | blast007 | so the work of sharing the user/group DB is probably not worth the end result |
| 22:47.19 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 22:47.31 | JeffM2501 | should just change it over :) |
| 22:47.32 | CBG | Why would such a forum need to use the existing user database? |
| 22:47.39 | JeffM2501 | just ease of use |
| 22:47.50 | JeffM2501 | so people don't have to reg a bunch of times |
| 22:48.01 | CBG | a bunch? once more's not so bad :) |
| 22:48.04 | blast007 | still, a management nightmare |
| 22:48.22 | blast007 | we'd have spammers posting on that forum then too |
| 22:48.27 | JeffM2501 | I'm looking for the futre :) |
| 22:48.29 | CBG | heh |
| 22:48.33 | blast007 | and they wouldn't be able to delete the users ;) |
| 22:48.37 | JeffM2501 | ok, so it'd be a pain |
| 22:48.38 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 22:48.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah, have to solve the spam issues first |
| 22:49.06 | JeffM2501 | like migrate to our own user management system |
| 22:49.19 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:49.25 | blast007 | I still like LDAP :) |
| 22:49.33 | CBG | migrate to SMF. :P |
| 22:49.36 | JeffM2501 | it is a decent system |
| 22:49.38 | blast007 | but I'd have to try it more in depth |
| 22:49.48 | JeffM2501 | and kinda works how I was thinking it should |
| 22:49.52 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:49.54 | JeffM2501 | just an auth server |
| 22:50.03 | JeffM2501 | and stuff that wants to trust it, can |
| 22:50.13 | blast007 | not sure if it would store servers though |
| 22:50.28 | JeffM2501 | how would you do groups? |
| 22:50.33 | blast007 | LDAP supports groups |
| 22:50.36 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:50.45 | blast007 | Windows Active Directory is an example of LDAP |
| 22:50.47 | JeffM2501 | by servers you mean authenticating servers? |
| 22:51.04 | blast007 | well, I mean like storing the list of server in the LDAP stuff |
| 22:51.14 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 22:51.18 | JeffM2501 | well that dosn't have to be done |
| 22:51.25 | JeffM2501 | but ldap does have directory services |
| 22:51.49 | JeffM2501 | the user manager dosn't have to be part of the listing manager, just as long as the listing manager can be a client of the user manager |
| 22:51.52 | blast007 | the main reason I'm not sure about the server itself is the whole "unique name" stuff |
| 22:52.13 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:52.15 | JeffM2501 | build the name out of the IP, name, and port |
| 22:52.35 | blast007 | hmm, suppose so |
| 22:52.48 | blast007 | not sure what symbols are supported |
| 22:52.55 | blast007 | definately not periods |
| 22:53.09 | blast007 | but we could convert the IP to a int |
| 22:53.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's what I mean by build |
| 22:53.36 | blast007 | k |
| 22:53.52 | blast007 | it's worth looking into, because it's already out there :) |
| 22:55.06 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 22:55.22 | JeffM2501 | god I remember now how much I hate handleServerMessage() |
| 22:56.04 | blast007 | and if I can resist the temptation of GTA, I might try to get that "play before you post" thing started |
| 22:56.05 | spldart | back... |
| 22:56.24 | spldart | wait... make isn't done yet.. |
| 22:56.53 | spldart | make is in a loop |
| 22:57.18 | blast007 | spldart: a loop of configure'ing? |
| 22:57.31 | spldart | hehe.... |
| 22:57.38 | spldart | a moment |
| 22:58.01 | spldart | where is the pasting a script online to shazre? |
| 22:58.10 | blast007 | ~pastebin |
| 22:58.12 | ibot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 22:58.30 | blast007 | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 22:59.22 | blast007 | hah, even the bzflag pastebin has spam on it |
| 22:59.48 | spldart | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4825 repeated thousands of times |
| 23:00.28 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 23:00.32 | JeffM2501 | that means I busted something :) |
| 23:00.37 | spldart | LOIL |
| 23:00.41 | blast007 | not necessarily |
| 23:00.46 | spldart | sorry I didn't get that sooner |
| 23:00.48 | blast007 | looks like a local file has the wrong timestamp |
| 23:01.07 | spldart | was drillinga dn screwing down new aux powersupply |
| 23:01.51 | blast007 | spldart: go into that directory, and do this: touch Makefile.am |
| 23:01.51 | blast007 | then try 'make' again at the root of your source |
| 23:01.51 | JeffM2501 | if I broke it, it's not like I know how to fix it :) |
| 23:01.53 | blast007 | spldart: is that in HEAD or v2_0branch? |
| 23:02.12 | JeffM2501 | head he was trying for me |
| 23:02.25 | blast007 | k |
| 23:02.27 | JeffM2501 | I moved flagStay up to head, and wanted to make sure I did the makes right |
| 23:02.35 | blast007 | I'll try a compile here |
| 23:02.42 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 23:02.59 | JeffM2501 | I did the logDebugMessage change to head too, so it'll rebuild a lot :( |
| 23:03.36 | blast007 | well, I'm building clean anyway |
| 23:03.53 | blast007 | only had 2.0.x on my server |
| 23:04.05 | spldart | touch Makefile.am in the plugins dir doesn't do anything... ? |
| 23:04.33 | spldart | Was doin clean cvs and build here 2 btw |
| 23:04.45 | blast007 | spldart: you won't notice it do anything, but did the build work after that? |
| 23:05.00 | spldart | had moved my normal head 2.1 to a backup place to do it |
| 23:05.02 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, it works in my preliminary tests |
| 23:05.03 | spldart | oh |
| 23:05.06 | Gnurdux | im ujsing kill as the perm |
| 23:05.12 | spldart | well.. I'd need to build over correct? |
| 23:05.18 | spldart | all of it |
| 23:05.30 | A-Delusion | gnurdux, i'll join |
| 23:05.41 | Gnurdux | gnurdux.homelinux.net port 5155 |
| 23:06.06 | spldart | woah! 'make' finished up the last real quick |
| 23:06.06 | blast007 | spldart: did you just ./configure --enable-plugins --disable-client ? |
| 23:06.33 | spldart | Just retyped make after touch and it did a bit of code real fast then finished. |
| 23:06.44 | spldart | I had done ./configure --enable-plugins |
| 23:06.47 | blast007 | no, I mean initially ;) |
| 23:07.02 | blast007 | k, I'll disable the client too, since it won't build that anyway |
| 23:07.09 | blast007 | (no GL) |
| 23:07.43 | spldart | On my side should I make dist-clean and start over with configure as a test? |
| 23:08.29 | blast007 | I'll building on Debian 3.1 to verify |
| 23:10.18 | JeffM2501 | is it bad to save changes to files while they are being commited? |
| 23:10.34 | blast007 | probably :) |
| 23:11.41 | A-Delusion | gnurdux, it worked |
| 23:11.41 | Gnurdux | yep |
| 23:11.42 | Gnurdux | now i rejoin |
| 23:12.12 | A-Delusion | can set that for any perm, i suppose |
| 23:12.22 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 23:12.32 | Gnurdux | the perm is an argument |
| 23:12.33 | Gnurdux | :) |
| 23:13.02 | A-Delusion | very nice indeed |
| 23:13.29 | A-Delusion | I'm planning to have my new machange server going some time this week. |
| 23:15.23 | A-Delusion | is the source i have the same as you just ran? |
| 23:16.00 | spldart | make[2]: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. |
| 23:16.07 | spldart | but now build finishes |
| 23:16.36 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, yes it is :) |
| 23:16.43 | Gnurdux | you just pass the perm name as an arg |
| 23:16.50 | A-Delusion | great. I will definitely use that |
| 23:16.51 | Gnurdux | i think for mapchange the perm name is confchange |
| 23:16.57 | spldart | that was to hiddenadmin... flag stay didn't have that message though |
| 23:18.01 | A-Delusion | I'll probably have a couple questions about mapchange when i set up my server, I'll get back to you in a couple days, thanks, gnurdux |
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| 23:21.54 | spldart | how odd.. My date was set to yesterday 0_o |
| 23:26.27 | Gnurdux | you like it? |
| 23:26.54 | blast007 | spldart: that can do it too ;) |
| 23:27.23 | spldart | LOLO |
| 23:27.51 | spldart | I'm an R-Tard |
| 23:27.56 | blast007 | JeffM2501: flagStay in HEAD won't build :) |
| 23:28.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 23:28.24 | blast007 | at least from anon CVS (wanted to try duplicating spldart's bug) |
| 23:28.30 | blast007 | Making all in flagStay |
| 23:28.31 | blast007 | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/blast/bzflag/plugins/flagStay' |
| 23:28.31 | blast007 | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. |
| 23:28.32 | JeffM2501 | what does it error on? |
| 23:28.43 | JeffM2501 | I just copied it from branch |
| 23:28.49 | JeffM2501 | maybe head uses new makefiles |
| 23:28.53 | spldart | I got the same blast |
| 23:29.04 | spldart | ... now that my @^*#%^*@ date is right |
| 23:29.04 | blast007 | JeffM2501: or it's broken in both places ;) |
| 23:29.09 | JeffM2501 | it is? |
| 23:29.21 | JeffM2501 | I know thumper has used it from cvs in branch |
| 23:29.31 | A-Delusion | me too |
| 23:29.46 | blast007 | hmm, yeah, fine in 2.0.x |
| 23:30.03 | JeffM2501 | I think more has to be added to a higher up makefile for it to work |
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| 23:34.24 | blast007 | JeffM2501: probably plugins/configure.ac |
| 23:34.37 | blast007 | tests even |
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| 23:44.33 | JeffM2501 | you a scons person? |
| 23:46.40 | blast007 | nah, he just likes hand typing all the build commands |
| 23:48.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:48.47 | spldart | *silly voice* waht is this 'hand tyupe build commands' |
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| 23:59.12 | JeffM2501 | so who's gonna be around tonight with a remote server to help me test this code I checked in :) |
| 23:59.27 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I will be :) |
| 23:59.40 | blast007 | I have adult swim to watch, so I'll be up 'till 1AM |
| 23:59.55 | JeffM2501 | I made the timestamp on updates be set from a server sycned clock |