| 00:16.57 | uso | isn't that unnecessarily slow: hypotf(x, hypotf(y, z)) > v |
| 00:17.32 | uso | shouldn't x*x + y*y + z*z > v*v be faster? |
| 00:19.19 | JeffM2501 | how often is it done? |
| 00:19.28 | uso | per shot, server side |
| 00:19.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah comparing the squares is faster, but once per shot ain't that often |
| 00:19.49 | a_meteorite | server side shot tracking? |
| 00:20.28 | uso | a_meteorite: shot speed check |
| 00:20.33 | a_meteorite | uso: ah |
| 00:20.45 | a_meteorite | would it break protocol? |
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| 00:21.34 | uso | not that i know, would only be replacing an expression |
| 00:21.56 | a_meteorite | would be nice addition for 2.0 CVS... I know, I know there's supposed to be nothing new |
| 00:22.10 | a_meteorite | but something like this WOULD be good for some current things out there :) |
| 00:23.15 | uso | wouldn'd change much for 2.0 as JeffM2501 said, but if the server gets more to do in future ... |
| 00:23.45 | a_meteorite | the client spends 98% of it's time drawing the screen, and the rest doing calculations.. |
| 00:23.49 | brlcad | er, what would be good? fixing that hupotting? |
| 00:23.54 | a_meteorite | doing full server-side calculates wouldn't be taxing |
| 00:24.03 | a_meteorite | *calculations |
| 00:24.24 | a_meteorite | brlcad: more cheat/goof detections |
| 00:24.55 | brlcad | there's no sense optimizing stuff when it hasn't been profiled and found to even be in the top 99% of execution |
| 00:25.14 | JeffM2501 | iundeed |
| 00:25.41 | a_meteorite | that's what Jeff has said - ~98% of the time the client is doing drawing |
| 00:25.59 | JeffM2501 | he's talking about the code change |
| 00:26.04 | a_meteorite | I figured uso was getting to there when he said "but if the server gets more to do in future" ;) |
| 00:26.06 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 00:26.06 | brlcad | feel free to recompile with profiling and get some more interesting numbers, that hasn't been done in a while |
| 00:26.07 | JeffM2501 | yes we know we can do server side stuff on 2.2 |
| 00:26.09 | a_meteorite | okay, I'm just confused |
| 00:26.14 | JeffM2501 | yes you are |
| 00:26.19 | Erroneous | yay profling |
| 00:26.24 | Erroneous | profiling even |
| 00:26.28 | a_meteorite | server side would be nice in 2.2, but so would other things |
| 00:26.32 | a_meteorite | everything would be nice ;) |
| 00:26.37 | JeffM2501 | sure, a_meteorite somone just has to write it |
| 00:26.44 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 00:26.49 | uso | profling sounds even better :) |
| 00:26.56 | brlcad | a_meteorite: remember that whole discussion about getting to only pick one thing |
| 00:27.09 | a_meteorite | I don't know near enough of bz's architecture or trig to do calculations.. :) |
| 00:27.15 | a_meteorite | brlcad: yes |
| 00:27.16 | brlcad | that's pretty much it -- you can't have everything all at once no matter how great it'd be |
| 00:27.17 | Erroneous | uso: hmm...are you thinking of a professional fling? or a prof named ling? :) |
| 00:27.43 | a_meteorite | brlcad: maybe a small delay in shipping 2.2 to add some really nice protocol changed would be in order? |
| 00:27.48 | a_meteorite | *changes would |
| 00:27.53 | a_meteorite | just a thought |
| 00:27.59 | brlcad | and any discussions around that pretending for it to not be a constraint are actually rather counterproductive |
| 00:28.08 | JeffM2501 | just saying how "great" they would be dosn't get them done |
| 00:28.20 | brlcad | that's called feature creep, there's always "one more cool thing" taht could be added |
| 00:28.26 | a_meteorite | of course |
| 00:28.27 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.x is dead |
| 00:28.28 | JeffM2501 | done |
| 00:28.36 | uso | i've only listened to the word melody, no deep thinking ;) |
| 00:28.37 | a_meteorite | but I think there are some issues that definitely need more attention than otehrs |
| 00:28.46 | a_meteorite | can't disagree with that ;) |
| 00:28.55 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: I'm thinking about starting to build alphas for 2.1. sound good? |
| 00:29.04 | JeffM2501 | what ever floats your boat skippy |
| 00:29.15 | JeffM2501 | be good to see how vc8 flys |
| 00:29.22 | a_meteorite | I'd be willing to build some OSX ones |
| 00:29.30 | a_meteorite | unless another dev wants to :) |
| 00:29.47 | JeffM2501 | we generaly don't do OSX builds |
| 00:29.53 | a_meteorite | I know |
| 00:29.54 | JeffM2501 | since every OSX user can compile |
| 00:30.00 | a_meteorite | so can windows users |
| 00:30.04 | JeffM2501 | not out of the box |
| 00:30.06 | brlcad | a_meteorite: if you want to help, learn shikari, go through the tutorials, profile the hell out of things |
| 00:30.07 | a_meteorite | except it just takes a little more work |
| 00:30.15 | brlcad | er, whatever it's called now.. "Shark" maybe |
| 00:30.19 | JeffM2501 | windows dosn't ship with a compiler |
| 00:30.22 | a_meteorite | brlcad: huh? |
| 00:30.29 | a_meteorite | you have to install it in OS X too |
| 00:30.31 | JeffM2501 | if we were universal, then maybe some builds |
| 00:30.42 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, yeah but windows dosn't even COME with one |
| 00:30.48 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: that is true |
| 00:31.04 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, how we doing on a universal build? |
| 00:31.13 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, your also on 10.3 right? |
| 00:31.16 | JeffM2501 | not 10.4 |
| 00:31.20 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: 10.4 |
| 00:31.26 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:31.31 | brlcad | JeffM2501: assuming those were the only bug fixes, there's really nothing to do |
| 00:31.36 | a_meteorite | it's a G5 |
| 00:31.43 | brlcad | just come time to make a binary, have to add a cflag |
| 00:31.47 | a_meteorite | but you can still do universal builds AFAIK |
| 00:32.22 | JeffM2501 | are you gonna set up xcode to set the CFlag? or are we still gonna go with the mystic sorcery that is your builds ;) |
| 00:33.09 | JeffM2501 | traditionaly you've have to do the OSXs cus "not all the stuff is checked in" |
| 00:34.02 | a_meteorite | sometimes the xcode project isn't updated... disheartening :) |
| 00:34.17 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, it's always updated, it uses the makefile |
| 00:34.20 | brlcad | the only stuff not checked in is the "process" itself, and how to put the dmg together |
| 00:34.26 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:34.26 | brlcad | which yeah.. should be put in |
| 00:34.28 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: hmm? I guess it was me |
| 00:34.41 | brlcad | I should at least document the process if I haven't somewhere |
| 00:34.46 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, there are many reasons why it may not work for you, but being "updated" is not one of them |
| 00:34.50 | JeffM2501 | yes you should :) |
| 00:34.50 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: k |
| 00:34.59 | a_meteorite | please, I never could figure out dmgs... |
| 00:35.03 | JeffM2501 | xcode does not have the same problems as devC++ |
| 00:35.08 | brlcad | though the process changes pretty big depending on which OSs we choose to support |
| 00:35.13 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, then your not the best person to do builds ;) |
| 00:35.22 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: I would figure it out if I had to :P |
| 00:35.23 | JeffM2501 | for 2.2 I'd say 10.3+ |
| 00:35.39 | JeffM2501 | if they want 10.2 let em build |
| 00:35.42 | brlcad | the compatibility hooks for 10.2 from 10.3 didn't exactly work so hot when we tested, so it came down to building with 10.2 |
| 00:36.02 | brlcad | I think we decided no more 10.2 iirc |
| 00:36.09 | brlcad | but next would be universal |
| 00:36.10 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: I only looked into dmgs for a personal project, so it wasn't very top priority. after finding little documentation and not being very intuitive like most of OS X, I gave up since I could just use zip at the time |
| 00:36.12 | JeffM2501 | would 10.4 only be easyer |
| 00:36.18 | brlcad | nah |
| 00:36.24 | JeffM2501 | so same work as 10.3+ |
| 00:36.25 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 00:36.46 | brlcad | a_meteorite: dmg's are rather decently documented and pretty easy overall |
| 00:36.55 | a_meteorite | brlcad: ... where? |
| 00:37.04 | JeffM2501 | apple.com I'm guessing :)( |
| 00:37.08 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 00:37.16 | a_meteorite | :P |
| 00:37.24 | JeffM2501 | I mostly just want the exact settings you use brlcad, for the DMG |
| 00:37.32 | JeffM2501 | and I probalby have to disable X11 |
| 00:37.35 | brlcad | it's there, iirc, it's also available directly in disk utility help too |
| 00:37.36 | JeffM2501 | then I can do the builds too |
| 00:37.52 | brlcad | yeah, the real tricky part is being careful about linking libraries |
| 00:37.52 | JeffM2501 | you move yet? |
| 00:37.54 | a_meteorite | you mean help? hehe, I haven't touched that in ages :D |
| 00:38.00 | brlcad | since getting the wrong mix just breaks it for most |
| 00:38.08 | JeffM2501 | that's what should be doced |
| 00:38.19 | JeffM2501 | or can the xcode project force specific stuff to not link? |
| 00:38.23 | brlcad | which involves dorking around with your system a bit and building some of the external deps staticly |
| 00:38.43 | JeffM2501 | curl and SDL? |
| 00:38.46 | a_meteorite | aieee, I guess not. I don't want to dork up my system :P |
| 00:39.36 | brlcad | a_meteorite: which is part why I suggested that if you want to help -- maybe learn just one tool like Shark really well and become a profile expert of sorts |
| 00:40.04 | a_meteorite | brlcad: ok |
| 00:40.10 | JeffM2501 | or learn C++ :) |
| 00:40.14 | brlcad | that'd land you big bucks down the road too if you actually did get good at it |
| 00:40.37 | a_meteorite | I have some decent C++ knowledge except for the OOP and pointer concept (which, I'll admit, is like 95% of C++)... |
| 00:40.48 | a_meteorite | yeah ;) |
| 00:40.49 | JeffM2501 | pointers are basic C |
| 00:40.57 | a_meteorite | that is true |
| 00:41.04 | a_meteorite | still haven't learned their concept |
| 00:41.05 | JeffM2501 | then keep working at it |
| 00:41.14 | JeffM2501 | it's a memory address |
| 00:41.21 | JeffM2501 | one of the core things of how computers work |
| 00:42.03 | a_meteorite | brlcad: taking a look at Shark |
| 00:45.22 | a_meteorite | just did Shark on bzflag in a window... I see it analyzes CPU percent, except most of the symbols are foreign to me :) |
| 00:46.00 | a_meteorite | except I don't know what to do with the results :) |
| 00:46.22 | JeffM2501 | that's the part where you "learn" about it |
| 00:46.28 | a_meteorite | k |
| 00:46.29 | JeffM2501 | and not just try it and poke it with a stick |
| 00:46.31 | JeffM2501 | read read read |
| 00:46.34 | JeffM2501 | learn more C++ |
| 00:46.43 | Erroneous | things which are easy to learn and do, are typically not things people are paid well for :) |
| 00:47.14 | a_meteorite | are you implying I may help you guys one day? :) |
| 00:47.14 | Erroneous | you may help any time you want |
| 00:47.23 | JeffM2501 | anyone can help |
| 00:47.23 | Theme97 | a_meteorite: I added a one-letter fix to /kill. ;) |
| 00:47.23 | JeffM2501 | that's the point of onesource |
| 00:47.27 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 00:47.28 | Theme97 | open? |
| 00:47.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:47.31 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 00:47.36 | JeffM2501 | my hands are freezing |
| 00:47.53 | Erroneous | you need some hot coffee |
| 00:48.03 | JeffM2501 | naw I never liked to play GTA |
| 00:48.07 | JeffM2501 | and I don't own a PS2 |
| 00:48.10 | Erroneous | eek, heh |
| 00:48.15 | L4m3r | Lol |
| 00:48.28 | a_meteorite | I know I could help anytime I want, but if I got good enough one day maybe one of those "developer" tags? ;) |
| 00:48.35 | a_meteorite | hehe, unlikely |
| 00:48.39 | L4m3r | hm, seems the spammers are working a different timezone now or something |
| 00:48.42 | JeffM2501 | that should not be your motivation |
| 00:48.56 | a_meteorite | I already do weird stuff for myself on bzflag |
| 00:49.03 | L4m3r | yeah, one's motivation should be to save this poor game :) |
| 00:49.12 | a_meteorite | that wasn't my main motivation |
| 00:49.26 | brlcad | well, whatever his motivation .. if that's what pushes you to learn, then go for it |
| 00:49.26 | JeffM2501 | then learn the stuff and better your understanding :) |
| 00:49.27 | Erroneous | heh, save? |
| 00:49.30 | JeffM2501 | then you'll be able to help |
| 00:49.33 | brlcad | but it's still going to be work and require dedication :) |
| 00:50.18 | brlcad | or like I mentioned earlier.. learn some tool(s) really well if you want, become an expert at them of sorts |
| 00:50.37 | L4m3r | Erroneous: to keep it from dying :) |
| 00:50.39 | brlcad | they at least have volumes of documentation and tutorials that are mostly straightforward to get through with real progress |
| 00:50.54 | Erroneous | L4m3r: old games never die, they just kind of fade away ;) |
| 00:51.13 | Erroneous | and I don't think bzflag will be doing that for quite some time |
| 00:51.15 | L4m3r | no, a multiplayer-only game will most certainly die |
| 00:51.29 | L4m3r | if there's no one to play with, there's no game :) |
| 00:51.49 | JeffM2501 | but that dosn't make it die, just be not played :) |
| 00:51.53 | Erroneous | yup |
| 00:51.53 | JeffM2501 | the code will exist |
| 00:51.56 | brlcad | there are people still playing xpilot and that never had nearly as large a following |
| 00:51.59 | Erroneous | you can always come back with a friend |
| 00:52.01 | JeffM2501 | and your saying WoW is in fear of dying? |
| 00:52.06 | JeffM2501 | cus it's multiplayer only |
| 00:52.08 | Erroneous | mmo's can die |
| 00:52.12 | L4m3r | eventually |
| 00:52.13 | JeffM2501 | they can |
| 00:52.16 | Erroneous | server plug can get pulled |
| 00:52.19 | JeffM2501 | eq is still active :) |
| 00:52.21 | Erroneous | then no worky anymore |
| 00:52.29 | JeffM2501 | heck people still play quakeworld :) |
| 00:52.39 | a_meteorite | "whoops... I tripped over the ethernet cable... let's keep it unplugged!" |
| 00:52.46 | Erroneous | people still play doom, too :) |
| 00:52.46 | brlcad | s/mmo's/commercial games with binary-only servers/ can die :) |
| 00:52.54 | Theme97 | "whoops, i cut the ethernet cable cause i thought it was my wrist"? |
| 00:53.01 | Theme97 | ... |
| 00:53.02 | JeffM2501 | or go opensource |
| 00:53.04 | a_meteorite | lol... |
| 00:53.07 | Erroneous | brlcad: my bad :) |
| 00:53.07 | Theme97 | i didn't say anything offensive. |
| 00:53.10 | Theme97 | nobody saw that. |
| 00:53.11 | JeffM2501 | hmm.. so at the end of bzflag's life we go comercial! |
| 00:53.52 | Erroneous | Theme97: offensive? how so? |
| 00:54.05 | Theme97 | ? |
| 00:54.10 | L4m3r | I wish there was a way to promote the game without, you know, having to promote it |
| 00:54.25 | L4m3r | Theme97: that's only offensive on #emotears |
| 00:54.26 | a_meteorite | word of mouth is the best promotion there is |
| 00:54.34 | Erroneous | ~l4m3r++ |
| 00:55.23 | Theme97 | hmm |
| 00:55.38 | Theme97 | too bad nobody's there |
| 00:55.52 | JeffM2501 | should be an emo flag |
| 00:55.55 | JeffM2501 | makes you blacker then black |
| 00:56.06 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 00:56.08 | JeffM2501 | and sit in the corner wrting songs |
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| 00:56.22 | L4m3r | and then the tank cries and the black tank makeup runs all over the place |
| 00:57.29 | Theme97 | and you constantly shoot yourself. |
| 00:58.54 | a_meteorite | :o |
| 01:01.43 | JeffM2501 | lucky bastard |
| 01:13.16 | L4m3r | goddamn, ANOTHER one?! /me gets the broom out again |
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| 02:54.56 | will_ | master_tux is ghosting, thats my other name |
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| 04:19.54 | Quol | hello again all.... |
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| 04:30.25 | brlcad | howdy Quol |
| 04:30.34 | brlcad | been quite a while |
| 04:31.01 | Quol | hey again brlcad...how are ya? ya - it has hasn't it... |
| 04:31.13 | brlcad | finally getting too cold up your way that you had to find the warmth of your computer again? :) |
| 04:31.45 | Quol | lol - nahh, I edded up going to bz-anonymous - had to get over my addiction :) |
| 04:31.49 | brlcad | i'm doing pretty nifty myself |
| 04:31.57 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:32.37 | Quol | how have things been around here - I see that you guys have been busy adding textures etc.. |
| 04:32.50 | brlcad | same ol same ol in many respects |
| 04:32.57 | brlcad | busy times, and lull times |
| 04:33.27 | Quol | I don't see many CTF servers - only the pillbox madness - there still a league? |
| 04:33.52 | brlcad | reading up on backends for the hopefully new authentication interface |
| 04:34.08 | brlcad | there is still a league, though it's in flux and hurting a bit due to various issues |
| 04:34.48 | brlcad | league rules, issues with cheating/abuse/disagreements, unresolved stuff mostly that won't go away until the code is fixed |
| 04:35.31 | Quol | ya - I think that was just starting when I left....I guess that's been going on for a while then? |
| 04:35.41 | brlcad | quiet a while |
| 04:35.48 | brlcad | heh, er yeah |
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| 04:42.28 | JeffM2501 | it's the song that never ends.. it goes on and on my friend.. |
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| 05:18.58 | JeffM2501 | Noodleman you around? |
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| 05:28.14 | JeffM2501 | Noodleman, cancel that ;) |
| 05:34.23 | JeffM2501 | hmmmm 3000gigs a month transfer... 99$ |
| 05:36.08 | [NP]Tangent | ughhhh |
| 05:36.18 | [NP]Tangent | why does my webhost have to be asleep NOW of all times |
| 05:36.33 | [NP]Tangent | watch, as soon as he gets online again, my parents will shut off my internet again |
| 05:37.30 | DTRemenak | that's what email is for |
| 05:38.47 | JeffM2501 | hmm wonder if that's worth an extra 200$ setup |
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| 05:56.48 | A-Delusion | jeff, I just cant get the flagstayzone to function. |
| 05:58.03 | JeffM2501 | what is it doing? |
| 05:58.14 | JeffM2501 | droping the flag when you pick it up in the zone? |
| 05:59.08 | A-Delusion | not dropping at all |
| 05:59.20 | JeffM2501 | when you leave the zone? |
| 05:59.51 | A-Delusion | ever |
| 06:00.01 | JeffM2501 | plugin loaded? |
| 06:00.08 | A-Delusion | i went to a cylinder, |
| 06:00.09 | A-Delusion | yeah |
| 06:00.23 | A-Delusion | the bounding box did nothing |
| 06:00.33 | JeffM2501 | you try my sample map? |
| 06:00.36 | JeffM2501 | see if that works |
| 06:00.39 | A-Delusion | that works |
| 06:00.50 | JeffM2501 | what is the size of the box you have? |
| 06:01.22 | A-Delusion | box |
| 06:01.22 | A-Delusion | position 0 0 30 |
| 06:01.22 | A-Delusion | rotation 0 |
| 06:01.23 | A-Delusion | size 60 60 1 |
| 06:01.23 | A-Delusion | end |
| 06:01.33 | A-Delusion | flagstayzone |
| 06:01.42 | A-Delusion | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.08 | JeffM2501 | how do you get up to Z 50 on that box? |
| 06:02.21 | JeffM2501 | the top is at 31 |
| 06:02.42 | A-Delusion | 50 is the max, after a jump |
| 06:02.57 | JeffM2501 | and there are flags up there to pick up? |
| 06:02.58 | A-Delusion | i want to be able to ump while on the box |
| 06:03.02 | A-Delusion | yes |
| 06:03.31 | A-Delusion | # bbox 30 -30 30 -30 29.8 40 didnt work either |
| 06:04.05 | A-Delusion | # bbox -30 30 -30 30 29.8 40 |
| 06:04.07 | JeffM2501 | hmm, it should just check the Z on your next update |
| 06:04.30 | JeffM2501 | louman has it working with zones up in towers |
| 06:04.30 | A-Delusion | what do you mean? |
| 06:04.46 | JeffM2501 | every time you send out a position update, it checks to see if you should have your current flag |
| 06:04.53 | JeffM2501 | so it gets your flag |
| 06:05.00 | JeffM2501 | checks for the zones that care about that falg |
| 06:05.10 | JeffM2501 | then sees if your inside of any of those zones |
| 06:05.16 | JeffM2501 | if you are, you keep it, if not, poof |
| 06:05.27 | [NP]Tangent | k |
| 06:06.18 | A-Delusion | could it be the 0 0 x-y position |
| 06:06.24 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 06:06.32 | JeffM2501 | thats what my test used |
| 06:06.40 | JeffM2501 | now how do you have flags suspended in the air? |
| 06:06.41 | A-Delusion | thought so |
| 06:07.05 | A-Delusion | i don't |
| 06:07.15 | A-Delusion | they're on the box |
| 06:07.24 | JeffM2501 | the box tops out at 31 tho |
| 06:07.29 | JeffM2501 | the zone starts at 50 |
| 06:07.39 | JeffM2501 | if you picked up the flag at 31, it would be poofed |
| 06:08.05 | A-Delusion | cylinder x y zmin zmax radius |
| 06:08.25 | JeffM2501 | silly radius :) |
| 06:08.28 | A-Delusion | my zmin is 30, make it 30.8? |
| 06:08.40 | JeffM2501 | naw the box starts at 31, should be fine |
| 06:08.48 | JeffM2501 | let me set up to debug |
| 06:09.32 | A-Delusion | I'm loading the plugin via the startup command, to be sure it loads first |
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| 06:09.45 | JeffM2501 | as you should :) |
| 06:09.54 | JeffM2501 | oh wait |
| 06:10.00 | JeffM2501 | with /loadplugin? |
| 06:10.03 | JeffM2501 | or in the config? |
| 06:10.04 | A-Delusion | yes |
| 06:10.10 | JeffM2501 | oh it HAS to be in the config |
| 06:10.10 | A-Delusion | not in conf |
| 06:10.14 | JeffM2501 | that's why |
| 06:10.18 | JeffM2501 | the map is read at config time |
| 06:10.26 | JeffM2501 | it won't work with /load |
| 06:10.30 | JeffM2501 | cus the map is already read |
| 06:10.41 | A-Delusion | ok, that'll take a minute.. |
| 06:12.23 | JeffM2501 | hmm for 2.2 I should make the init pass in if it's form /load or -load, so it can return an error |
| 06:12.36 | JeffM2501 | some will only work at startup |
| 06:14.05 | [NP]Tangent | oh Jeff, I tried 2.1 out |
| 06:14.08 | [NP]Tangent | oh man is it nice |
| 06:14.10 | [NP]Tangent | :) |
| 06:14.11 | [NP]Tangent | good work |
| 06:14.12 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 06:14.17 | JeffM2501 | I did little on it |
| 06:14.22 | JeffM2501 | others did much more |
| 06:14.23 | DTRemenak | see? we totally need alphas :) |
| 06:14.40 | JeffM2501 | did I ever say we didn't? |
| 06:14.47 | [NP]Tangent | I might try and put up a 2.1 server so my friends and I can play on it |
| 06:14.53 | DTRemenak | no, you just seemed rather cool to the idea a few days ago |
| 06:15.13 | JeffM2501 | notice the date |
| 06:15.22 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.1.x/ |
| 06:15.23 | DTRemenak | december 4? |
| 06:15.36 | JeffM2501 | silly mac command key :( |
| 06:15.37 | DTRemenak | ah, that date |
| 06:15.42 | [NP]Tangent | heh, I just checked it out of CVS |
| 06:15.54 | [NP]Tangent | yay for finally using CVS |
| 06:15.57 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 06:16.30 | [NP]Tangent | I'm going to CVS the 2.0 branch now |
| 06:16.40 | [NP]Tangent | see if this fixes my sealed-on-the-TOP-of-a-box problem |
| 06:17.20 | JeffM2501 | IIRC not much was changed in physics for 2.0.x |
| 06:17.23 | JeffM2501 | for compatability |
| 06:17.36 | A-Delusion | Plugin:usr/local/lib/plugins2.0.9/flagStay found but does not contain bz_Load method, |
| 06:17.45 | JeffM2501 | then it didn't build right |
| 06:18.13 | A-Delusion | loaded from command line |
| 06:18.23 | JeffM2501 | dunno man |
| 06:18.29 | A-Delusion | me neither |
| 06:18.31 | JeffM2501 | ether that or there is more then one |
| 06:18.36 | A-Delusion | will wait for thumper |
| 06:18.49 | JeffM2501 | or chekc the config that louman's server is using |
| 06:18.55 | JeffM2501 | make sure they didn't specify a special path |
| 06:19.04 | JeffM2501 | oh and you NEED the current bzfs |
| 06:19.10 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.8 won't cut it |
| 06:19.30 | A-Delusion | the same path yeah, it's 2.0.9, built 11-30 |
| 06:19.39 | JeffM2501 | that may be tool okd |
| 06:19.41 | JeffM2501 | old |
| 06:19.50 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 06:19.57 | A-Delusion | well, thatts what thumper gave me, |
| 06:19.59 | JeffM2501 | louman using the same bzfs? |
| 06:20.02 | A-Delusion | i'll wait for him. |
| 06:20.07 | A-Delusion | no |
| 06:20.12 | Rawk | A-Delusion: I love your progressive flag plugin |
| 06:20.30 | A-Delusion | so do i, i just made some changes the other day |
| 06:20.35 | JeffM2501 | I ended up having to add a couple API commands at the end, so you may not have them |
| 06:20.49 | A-Delusion | with rabbit mode, might be the best use for it |
| 06:22.08 | A-Delusion | rabbit always has the best flag on the board |
| 06:22.44 | A-Delusion | hunters all have steamroller, that can work both ways |
| 06:23.01 | A-Delusion | had to up TK limit to 70 percent |
| 06:23.14 | Rawk | heh |
| 06:23.29 | A-Delusion | rabbit gets a sheild at first |
| 06:23.45 | A-Delusion | then a random choice of 4 flags at next kill |
| 06:23.58 | A-Delusion | then right to SW |
| 06:24.15 | A-Delusion | three kills with SW gets you a GM |
| 06:24.35 | A-Delusion | or laser |
| 06:24.41 | A-Delusion | then geno |
| 06:25.04 | A-Delusion | but it's fully configurable |
| 06:25.40 | A-Delusion | it gives you a bad flag for TK's, but i took that off for rabbit |
| 06:26.39 | Rawk | A-Delusion: Are you listening to Jeff anymore? lol |
| 06:27.32 | A-Delusion | louman has a different bzfs, i'm sure |
| 06:28.59 | A-Delusion | but jeff, it works fine with your test map. |
| 06:30.50 | Rawk | A-Delusion: I just didn't want to spoil your conversation with Jeff ;-) |
| 06:31.00 | A-Delusion | it was over, i think |
| 06:31.10 | Rawk | ahh, ok |
| 06:31.36 | A-Delusion | that map, <BattleZone Vectrex by Lagamemnon> is pretty awesome too. |
| 06:32.11 | A-Delusion | I'm pretty sure he dropped the L from his name |
| 06:32.37 | Rawk | A-Delusion: are you gonna try grtting a later version of bzflag as Jeff thought you might need? |
| 06:33.00 | A-Delusion | thumper maintains bzfs for me. |
| 06:33.07 | A-Delusion | he's not here ATM |
| 06:33.19 | Rawk | A-Delusion: what's the address of that server? I might try it |
| 06:33.27 | Rawk | ahh ok |
| 06:33.47 | A-Delusion | a-delusion.no-ip.org:4020 |
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| 06:34.34 | A-Delusion | a-delusion.no-ip.BIZ:4020 |
| 06:35.02 | Rawk | ok thanks |
| 06:35.18 | Doppelgamer | that's a BZF serv, right? |
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| 06:47.24 | A-Delusion | yknow what else is an awesome map is "SandBlaster2" I don't know who made it, but is excellent in conception and realization |
| 06:47.37 | A-Delusion | has a very clean look to it |
| 06:48.23 | Rawk | and the address? |
| 06:49.12 | A-Delusion | it's on 2 servers |
| 06:49.18 | A-Delusion | dutchria made it |
| 06:49.30 | A-Delusion | bzflag.disconnected.de |
| 06:49.47 | Rawk | thanks |
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| 08:29.59 | LePoulpe303 | Bidi bidi tibidi Wah |
| 08:32.46 | Manu | bonjour LePoulpe303 :) |
| 09:01.24 | LePoulpe303 | hola Manu ! |
| 09:01.28 | LePoulpe303 | que tal ? |
| 09:10.18 | LePoulpe303 | me gusta la mañana, me gustas tu |
| 09:10.24 | LePoulpe303 | i learn spanish with manu chao |
| 09:10.40 | LePoulpe303 | i'm no sure it will be sufficient if i'm lost in barcelona :S |
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| 09:44.43 | biggeruniverse | woot |
| 09:45.36 | Rawk | yay! yahoo! |
| 09:45.44 | biggeruniverse | rawk on |
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| 09:45.55 | biggeruniverse | pommes on |
| 09:46.06 | Rawk | lol on |
| 09:46.12 | biggeruniverse | ok, that doesn't go any further |
| 09:46.15 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 09:46.34 | biggeruniverse | cbg off |
| 09:46.34 | Pommes | some connection-probs :) |
| 09:46.41 | biggeruniverse | ah |
| 09:46.56 | biggeruniverse | ~seen ts |
| 09:47.19 | ibot | ts <n=ts@p54B00740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 11h 50m 37s ago, saying: 'Heh'. |
| 09:47.19 | biggeruniverse | ibot awake! |
| 09:47.24 | ibot | it has been said that caffeine is the nectar of the gods in concentrated form or the jiuce which runs through our veins |
| 09:47.24 | biggeruniverse | (poke) |
| 09:47.24 | Rawk | naughty bot! |
| 09:47.24 | biggeruniverse | (poke)(poke) |
| 09:47.37 | Rawk | Heh to you ts |
| 09:47.52 | biggeruniverse | iro bot! |
| 09:48.42 | biggeruniverse | ro ibot! |
| 09:49.18 | biggeruniverse | ~seen erroneous |
| 09:49.24 | ibot | erroneous <n=dtremena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 8h 53m 18s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
| 09:49.39 | biggeruniverse | that's a lot of laughing going on |
| 09:50.55 | Rawk | hehe haha lol rofl heh hoh hoh hoh |
| 10:01.54 | Manu | LePoulpe303: salut :) |
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| 10:09.24 | biggeruniverse | wakie |
| 10:18.18 | biggeruniverse | hmm |
| 10:28.25 | LePoulpe303 | another tank game http://bjs.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:29.54 | Pommes | LePoulpe303: no ads please ;-) |
| 10:30.55 | LePoulpe303 | just for information :) |
| 10:31.45 | LePoulpe303 | not really a serious competitor for our favorite game |
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| 11:39.45 | biggeruniverse | haha |
| 11:39.50 | biggeruniverse | rawk on! |
| 11:41.27 | biggeruniverse | ~seen rawk |
| 11:41.43 | ibot | rawk is currently on #bzflag (6h 14m). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 1h 50m 48s, last said: 'hehe haha lol rofl heh hoh hoh hoh'. |
| 11:41.53 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 11:42.40 | biggeruniverse | ~seen unseen |
| 11:42.43 | ibot | biggeruniverse: i haven't seen 'unseen' |
| 11:42.54 | biggeruniverse | and you wouldn't! |
| 11:43.01 | biggeruniverse | silly ibot |
| 11:44.07 | biggeruniverse | ~seen a one-legged purple giraffe |
| 11:44.12 | ibot | biggeruniverse: i haven't seen 'a one-legged purple giraffe' |
| 11:44.34 | biggeruniverse | why not?! They're everywhere! |
| 11:45.11 | biggeruniverse | ~seen Paris |
| 11:45.18 | ibot | biggeruniverse: i haven't seen 'paris' |
| 11:45.38 | biggeruniverse | really? are you cute? maybe I could take you sometime (wink)(wink) |
| 11:46.17 | SportChick | biggeruniverse: perhaps you should play with jbot on #botpark - this channel is really more for dev type stuff |
| 11:46.32 | biggeruniverse | it's 5AM |
| 11:46.37 | biggeruniverse | I'm punchy |
| 11:46.54 | biggeruniverse | ... or whatever that word is |
| 11:47.27 | biggeruniverse | plus, no one is talking, so I thought I might as well talk with the bot ;) |
| 11:48.05 | SportChick | it's 5AM in the midwest. This channel is, however, used by people around the globe |
| 11:48.29 | biggeruniverse | theoretically, tho it seems currently disused. |
| 11:49.50 | biggeruniverse | I'll be back later then, I have some more patches to tidy up so erroneous doesn't chide me for commented code ;) |
| 11:49.52 | SportChick | yes, however, if you'll notice - there are 45 nicks on here. When they go to see why the channel is lit up and read their backlog, it will be full of irrelevant bot chatter. It's better to keep that on one of the related bzflag chat channels or on #botpark |
| 11:50.06 | SportChick | hehe, DTRemenak is known for that :) |
| 11:51.17 | biggeruniverse | picky picky |
| 11:51.23 | biggeruniverse | tsk |
| 11:52.27 | SportChick | you can always try bribing him with sushi :D |
| 11:54.40 | biggeruniverse | o.O |
| 11:55.39 | biggeruniverse | I know where to get plenty of dead fish! |
| 11:55.53 | biggeruniverse | We have this rather dirty river see... |
| 11:59.05 | biggeruniverse | +weather 10001 |
| 11:59.06 | Guu | biggeruniverse: The current temperature in Central Park, New York is 28.4°F (6:51 AM EST on December 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:59.19 | biggeruniverse | chilly |
| 11:59.51 | biggeruniverse | +weather 64111 |
| 11:59.53 | Guu | biggeruniverse: The current temperature in Kansas City, Missouri is 24.8°F (5:54 AM CST on December 05, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:59.57 | biggeruniverse | chiller! |
| 12:00.42 | biggeruniverse | sporty is going to come after me with a stick now |
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| 12:25.30 | LePoulpe303 | 1vs1 anyone |
| 12:25.32 | LePoulpe303 | ? |
| 12:26.06 | biggeruniverse | you can play ibot |
| 12:26.16 | biggeruniverse | (she's good) |
| 12:26.30 | biggeruniverse | <.< |
| 12:26.32 | biggeruniverse | >.< |
| 12:36.44 | Manu | brlcad: more spamm ;) http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9553 |
| 12:38.49 | Manu | brlcad: well probably spam with a trojan |
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| 14:05.01 | brlcad | mm.. angie jolie |
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| 14:18.39 | A-Delusion | /usr/local/bin/bzfs2.0.9 -dd -loadplugin /usr/local/lib/plugins2.0.9/flagStay -conf KOTH.conf -j -f |
| 14:18.46 | A-Delusion | plugin will not load |
| 14:19.04 | A-Delusion | /usr/local/bin/bzfs2.0.9 -loadplugin /usr/local/lib/plugins2.0.9/flagStay -dd -conf KOTH.conf -j -f |
| 14:19.09 | A-Delusion | plugin will load |
| 14:21.00 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 14:22.33 | biggeruniverse | what's the -dd |
| 14:22.36 | biggeruniverse | ? |
| 14:22.45 | Thumper_ | A-Delusion: good morning |
| 14:26.25 | Manu | brlcad: nice spam ;) |
| 14:32.07 | biggeruniverse | where? |
| 14:41.11 | ts | ¡Hola Manu! |
| 14:44.44 | biggeruniverse | ts! |
| 14:44.54 | ts | yes? |
| 14:45.39 | biggeruniverse | just saying ts... |
| 14:45.48 | biggeruniverse | with emphasis... ! |
| 15:28.03 | biggeruniverse | who wants another patch? |
| 15:33.10 | biggeruniverse | don't everyone jump up at once |
| 15:35.24 | blast007 | if you have one, just upload it to SF ;) |
| 15:42.36 | biggeruniverse | I have ANOTHER one |
| 15:44.16 | Manu | hallo ts |
| 15:44.39 | biggeruniverse | I guess it's an enhancement... |
| 15:52.47 | biggeruniverse | ok |
| 15:52.51 | biggeruniverse | uploaded |
| 15:53.42 | biggeruniverse | I've tested it quite a bit and it seems to work well, or at least causes no visible differences, but should is far superior to the current impl |
| 15:53.53 | biggeruniverse | *should is -> should be |
| 15:54.48 | biggeruniverse | I hope to have a public server with the new code up soon |
| 15:55.26 | biggeruniverse | this is patch week ;) |
| 15:55.30 | biggeruniverse | maybe I can do one a day |
| 15:55.51 | biggeruniverse | probably not. I have one for tomorrow, and then the others are not finished (quite large) |
| 15:56.22 | biggeruniverse | ~seen erroneous |
| 15:56.42 | ibot | erroneous <n=dtremena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 15h 36s ago, saying: 'hehe'. |
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| 15:56.51 | biggeruniverse | perugina! |
| 15:56.57 | pogovina | hehe, hi |
| 15:57.16 | pogovina | No Spldart again today... poo |
| 15:57.23 | biggeruniverse | where is erroneous to critique my patch? |
| 15:57.49 | pogovina | although, he got his 2.1 running again last night, he seg faulted |
| 15:58.15 | biggeruniverse | dtremenak got his up too |
| 15:58.21 | biggeruniverse | I didn't :( no time |
| 15:58.24 | pogovina | there's a lot of them online right now |
| 15:58.41 | pogovina | more than i've seen in a while |
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| 16:10.28 | biggeruniverse | what about the after-spawn invincibility idea? |
| 16:10.33 | biggeruniverse | is anyone working on that? |
| 16:10.51 | blast007 | I would suggest against that |
| 16:11.21 | biggeruniverse | what was the argument against, it seemed like a good idea to me |
| 16:12.51 | biggeruniverse | ? |
| 16:15.56 | pogovina | looks like i am deprived of spldart today as well... ttyl biggeruniverse. bye all o/ |
| 16:16.02 | biggeruniverse | come one people! /vote yes! |
| 16:16.10 | biggeruniverse | cya |
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| 17:07.31 | biggeruniverse | erroneous! |
| 17:07.57 | Erroneous | biggeruniverse! |
| 17:08.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 17:08.06 | CBG | cbg! |
| 17:08.16 | CBG | :( nobody likes me. |
| 17:08.16 | biggeruniverse | CBG! |
| 17:08.29 | CBG | biggeruniverse! |
| 17:08.39 | biggeruniverse | That's because your id is so short. |
| 17:08.49 | biggeruniverse | :P |
| 17:08.59 | biggeruniverse | j/k. |
| 17:09.15 | biggeruniverse | I've got a new enhancement uploaded |
| 17:11.00 | CBG | :P |
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| 17:13.12 | biggeruniverse | hello again. |
| 17:13.25 | biggeruniverse | we had a party while you were gone |
| 17:13.52 | Erroneous | woo |
| 17:14.44 | CBG | :( |
| 17:15.36 | biggeruniverse | ;) |
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| 17:19.35 | Erroneous | oh, now that's clever. spam that makes you do the work... "...Can you post the link?" :0 |
| 17:23.32 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:25.01 | Erroneous | sometimes I wish spammers would use their creativity for something other than spam :) |
| 17:40.24 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Yeah. If they would use their creativity to come up with novel new suicide methods, and then test them, that would be nice. |
| 17:42.06 | JeffM2501 | blast007, got that upgrade ready? :) |
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| 19:01.30 | biggeruniverse | ello |
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| 19:36.16 | Manu | hi randomparticle :) |
| 19:36.22 | randomparticle | hi there |
| 19:36.45 | Birdie | hey |
| 19:38.06 | randomparticle | if a game has multiple windows with opengl views, does it need a context for each window? |
| 19:38.18 | Manu | birthday randomparticle ? |
| 19:39.05 | randomparticle | suppose, for the sake of argument, you have a chess game. you can open several chessboard windows. do you need an opengl context for each of those? |
| 19:40.21 | randomparticle | i have more reading to do, it seems :) |
| 19:41.10 | randomparticle | another question is, is switching between opengl contexts very expensive? |
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| 20:27.09 | blast007 | JeffM2501: actually I think I do, just need to test a bit more |
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| 20:59.30 | JeffM2501 | testing is for chumps! |
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| 21:09.59 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: heh |
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| 23:04.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: API events for raw net data coming in and out. |
| 23:04.32 | JeffM2501 | I'm such a bastard |
| 23:04.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/game/NetHandler.cxx: API events for raw net data coming in and out. |
| 23:05.45 | AAA_awright | Public feedback needed: http://labs.redjacket.ws/bzfx/players/bzfx.net:6026 for my "BZFlag Stats 2.0" |
| 23:08.03 | Erroneous | heh, api events for net data? |
| 23:08.18 | JeffM2501 | bandwith tracking and reporting |
| 23:08.28 | Erroneous | ah |
| 23:09.11 | Erroneous | mrtg ftw |
| 23:09.36 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 23:09.41 | JeffM2501 | just figured may as well put it here |
| 23:09.47 | JeffM2501 | incase somone wants to do something "fun" |
| 23:09.48 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
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