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| 02:48.49 | A-Delusion | It's Light Up Night!!! |
| 02:49.13 | A-Delusion | http://pittsburgh.about.com/cs/downtown/a/light_up_night.htm |
| 02:49.29 | A-Delusion | Light 'Em Up. |
| 02:50.19 | A-Delusion | They didnt get the skating rink up in time, |
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| 04:31.45 | RedBaron3 | if there is i was wondering how to turn on udp |
| 04:32.17 | RedBaron3 | somehow it got turned off on this computer and now I am unable to connect to some servers |
| 04:32.37 | RedBaron3 | if anyone knows how it would be helpful |
| 04:37.24 | JeffM2501 | it's on by default |
| 04:37.32 | JeffM2501 | there isn't a way to turn it off in game |
| 04:37.40 | JeffM2501 | if its' being blocked it's by your firewall, router, or ISP |
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| 07:25.49 | Flash | I noticed that SW effect is poor quality and VERY laggy in 2.0.9 |
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| 08:32.49 | [NP]Tangent | I finally did it |
| 08:32.55 | [NP]Tangent | I got more ram |
| 08:33.04 | [NP]Tangent | so I finally have more than 256mb |
| 08:33.05 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 08:33.11 | [NP]Tangent | bzflag ought to run MUCH better now |
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| 09:35.27 | Shadowpillar | how do I compile bzflag so it will build as a .deb? |
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| 09:45.57 | Rawk | hi Shadowpillar |
| 09:46.03 | Shadowpillar | sup |
| 09:46.19 | Shadowpillar | do you know how to build a debian package from the source tree? |
| 09:46.26 | Shadowpillar | all the stuff to build a debian package is there |
| 09:48.35 | Rawk | hmm, not really im on gentoo |
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| 09:49.13 | Rawk | tarco, you're on debian, right? |
| 09:49.30 | tarco | ah no |
| 09:49.36 | Rawk | oh |
| 09:49.39 | tarco | but i do have a debian box |
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| 09:50.03 | tarco | hey |
| 09:50.06 | daniel_jackson | hey |
| 09:50.17 | Rawk | hi daniel_jackson!! |
| 09:50.30 | daniel_jackson | hey rawk |
| 09:50.58 | daniel_jackson | I have a c program I made that I want you to look at |
| 09:51.07 | tarco | me |
| 09:51.18 | daniel_jackson | no I meant for rawk |
| 09:51.28 | tarco | oh ok |
| 09:51.34 | daniel_jackson | I'll email it to you rawk |
| 09:51.35 | Rawk | would one of you be able to help Shadowpillar here, with a debian related question? |
| 09:51.44 | Rawk | ok daniel_jackson |
| 09:51.47 | daniel_jackson | sure |
| 09:52.10 | Rawk | Shadowpillar: what was that question again? |
| 09:52.16 | daniel_jackson | I'll break out my second brain, it helps me multitask |
| 09:52.21 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:52.47 | tarco | i am just learning debian |
| 09:52.56 | daniel_jackson | tarco your IP changed again |
| 09:53.02 | Shadowpillar | basically, I want to build bzflag from source and build it as a .deb file |
| 09:53.04 | tarco | no |
| 09:53.09 | daniel_jackson | see tarco other people use debian! |
| 09:53.13 | Shadowpillar | all the debianization stuff is in there (/debian) |
| 09:53.33 | Shadowpillar | but what commands build it as a package |
| 09:53.43 | Shadowpillar | and I'm recompiling due to a glitch with gcc4 and 64 bit |
| 09:53.49 | tarco | oh yes srry it hasa |
| 09:54.02 | daniel_jackson | you use a tool called dh-make |
| 09:54.23 | daniel_jackson | dpkg-buildpackages |
| 09:54.35 | daniel_jackson | leave off the "s" |
| 09:54.38 | Rawk | this glich i believe: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=65234#65234 |
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| 09:55.07 | daniel_jackson | well I must not be understanding his question fully |
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| 09:55.52 | daniel_jackson | if your "package" already has the "debian" directory |
| 09:56.09 | daniel_jackson | then just type "dpkg-buildpackage |
| 09:56.12 | daniel_jackson | " |
| 09:57.00 | daniel_jackson | or first cd into the "package directory then type "dpkg-buildpackage |
| 09:57.22 | daniel_jackson | your IP changed tarco! |
| 09:57.27 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:57.38 | tarco | yes it did i had problem this morning |
| 09:58.12 | daniel_jackson | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 09:58.50 | daniel_jackson | you have have got to reinstall ssh |
| 09:58.54 | tarco | no with my router and stuff |
| 09:59.09 | tarco | yeah how do i |
| 09:59.11 | daniel_jackson | I got to your box tarco |
| 09:59.50 | tarco | yeah |
| 10:00.14 | daniel_jackson | 1st type "rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin |
| 10:00.16 | daniel_jackson | " |
| 10:00.37 | tarco | just a sec on the phone (could we talk in private too) |
| 10:00.41 | daniel_jackson | this will delete apt's package memory |
| 10:00.55 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:00.57 | Shadowpillar | daniel_jackson: this is the source package off of sourceforge |
| 10:01.07 | daniel_jackson | no |
| 10:01.19 | daniel_jackson | you have mirror lists |
| 10:01.31 | Shadowpillar | ...what? |
| 10:01.32 | daniel_jackson | I'll show you my apt-sources |
| 10:01.41 | Shadowpillar | no no no |
| 10:01.44 | Shadowpillar | I mean |
| 10:01.50 | Shadowpillar | I downloaded the version off of sourceforge |
| 10:02.12 | Shadowpillar | however, debian/ is full of .in files |
| 10:02.13 | daniel_jackson | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.13 | daniel_jackson | deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.13 | daniel_jackson | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.13 | daniel_jackson | deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.13 | daniel_jackson | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.14 | daniel_jackson | deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free |
| 10:02.29 | tarco | now i am confuse tow people are talking |
| 10:02.32 | daniel_jackson | see where it says deb0src |
| 10:02.36 | Shadowpillar | ... |
| 10:02.37 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:02.37 | Shadowpillar | dude |
| 10:02.39 | Shadowpillar | I know. |
| 10:02.46 | Shadowpillar | I know how that all works |
| 10:02.52 | daniel_jackson | welcome to my world! |
| 10:02.54 | Shadowpillar | the problem is, my dist's source package is dated |
| 10:03.05 | Shadowpillar | I downloaded the source from sourceforge |
| 10:03.31 | Shadowpillar | mostly to fix a major problem the dist makers won't fix with 64 bit ubuntu dapper |
| 10:03.34 | tarco | please my we talk in a private channe |
| 10:03.39 | daniel_jackson | may I ask where you are located world |
| 10:04.04 | Shadowpillar | california |
| 10:04.29 | daniel_jackson | then use my list that I posted |
| 10:04.53 | daniel_jackson | you will have to put this in the /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 10:04.54 | tarco | lol dj live in california |
| 10:04.58 | Shadowpillar | daniel_jackson: that's not my problem |
| 10:05.16 | Shadowpillar | and also, I use ubuntu. |
| 10:05.17 | daniel_jackson | these are the most reliable servers |
| 10:05.27 | Shadowpillar | daniel_jackson: that isnt my problem... |
| 10:05.30 | daniel_jackson | you didn't tell me that |
| 10:05.32 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:05.35 | Shadowpillar | yeah I did |
| 10:05.48 | daniel_jackson | rawk told me you had debian |
| 10:05.52 | Shadowpillar | <Shadowpillar> I downloaded the source from sourceforge |
| 10:05.53 | Shadowpillar | <Shadowpillar> mostly to fix a major problem the dist makers won't fix with 64 bit ubuntu dapper |
| 10:06.08 | tarco | sigh |
| 10:06.08 | daniel_jackson | you may want to use kernel.org |
| 10:06.20 | daniel_jackson | I'm sry tarco |
| 10:06.22 | Shadowpillar | and in the source code, there's a debian/ directory |
| 10:06.26 | tarco | np ican wait |
| 10:06.33 | Shadowpillar | and all the files are there, but as .in files |
| 10:06.37 | daniel_jackson | see thats normal |
| 10:06.54 | daniel_jackson | thats because ubuntu is based off of debian |
| 10:06.55 | Shadowpillar | to be processed as normal files by make or autoconf or whatnot |
| 10:07.05 | Shadowpillar | my question is, how do you build a debian package using the source tree? |
| 10:07.53 | daniel_jackson | you need to use "dpk-buildpackage |
| 10:07.54 | daniel_jackson | " |
| 10:08.00 | Shadowpillar | okay, watch. |
| 10:08.17 | Shadowpillar | dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 10:08.35 | Shadowpillar | changelog.in is there |
| 10:08.41 | daniel_jackson | did you cd into the package? |
| 10:08.43 | Shadowpillar | and it has to be processed with make |
| 10:08.45 | Shadowpillar | .... |
| 10:08.49 | Shadowpillar | yes I did |
| 10:08.55 | Shadowpillar | you're not talking to a newbie here |
| 10:09.00 | Shadowpillar | I've built debian packages before |
| 10:09.04 | daniel_jackson | well dpkg-build intiates make |
| 10:09.08 | Shadowpillar | however this one has mne perplexed |
| 10:09.20 | Shadowpillar | me* |
| 10:09.33 | daniel_jackson | may I ask what package your building? |
| 10:09.55 | Shadowpillar | ...bzflag. |
| 10:10.09 | Shadowpillar | 2.0.8 |
| 10:10.21 | daniel_jackson | that debian package is dated remove it |
| 10:10.29 | Shadowpillar | ... |
| 10:10.30 | daniel_jackson | rm -r debian |
| 10:10.32 | Shadowpillar | dude. |
| 10:10.43 | Rawk | Shadowpillar: why not just build from source without making a deb package? |
| 10:10.53 | tarco | yeah |
| 10:10.55 | Shadowpillar | this is the fresh source tree |
| 10:10.56 | daniel_jackson | thats what I'm telling you |
| 10:11.11 | tarco | g |
| 10:11.14 | Shadowpillar | ... |
| 10:11.14 | daniel_jackson | your in the bzflag-2.0.8 |
| 10:11.21 | Shadowpillar | yes |
| 10:11.57 | daniel_jackson | rm move the debian directory and I will show you how to make a new one |
| 10:12.18 | Rawk | Shadowpillar: why not just run ./configure, make, make install ? |
| 10:12.19 | Shadowpillar | daniel_jackson: the way that it shows in the debian new maintainer guide? |
| 10:12.37 | Shadowpillar | Rawk: because I want it tracked by apt. |
| 10:12.40 | daniel_jackson | do you want a deb package? |
| 10:12.45 | Shadowpillar | so if I ever upgrade it, I dont make a mess. |
| 10:12.48 | Shadowpillar | YES |
| 10:13.05 | Rawk | ahh |
| 10:13.25 | tarco | no use getting frustrated |
| 10:13.37 | daniel_jackson | then you need to delete the "debian" directory, and then type "dh_make" |
| 10:13.54 | Shadowpillar | what about the rules file and whatnot? |
| 10:14.01 | daniel_jackson | this will make and updated debian dir |
| 10:14.21 | Shadowpillar | I know that, but what about all the special rules and control file? should I back those up? |
| 10:14.26 | daniel_jackson | don't woory about that |
| 10:14.39 | daniel_jackson | it will make new onesa |
| 10:15.10 | Shadowpillar | and this will be a multiple binary so bzflag-server will be separate |
| 10:15.50 | tarco | 8/ |
| 10:15.56 | daniel_jackson | yes it will ask if you want single or multi |
| 10:16.09 | Shadowpillar | I went with multi |
| 10:16.16 | Shadowpillar | so now what? |
| 10:16.37 | daniel_jackson | after that type "dpkg-builpackage and it will make the package(s) |
| 10:16.58 | daniel_jackson | in the dir above where you are |
| 10:17.00 | Shadowpillar | uhh... the rules and control files and all of that are all messed up now. |
| 10:17.18 | daniel_jackson | they will be different |
| 10:17.21 | Shadowpillar | yeah |
| 10:17.50 | Shadowpillar | but um, I was also planning on distributing this for other users as well |
| 10:19.26 | tarco | g u like to make things complicated |
| 10:19.35 | Shadowpillar | no, I dont |
| 10:19.36 | tarco | shadowillar |
| 10:19.46 | daniel_jackson | well you may need to talk to Rawk about modifying the control and rules file |
| 10:19.54 | daniel_jackson | I have a headache! lol |
| 10:19.56 | Shadowpillar | better question, how would tim rikers build it? |
| 10:20.26 | daniel_jackson | ./configure; make; make install |
| 10:20.41 | daniel_jackson | but thats different from packages |
| 10:21.28 | Rawk | Shadowpillar: i don't know a thing about debian, but anyway, have you corrected for the bug? |
| 10:21.43 | daniel_jackson | are you on amd64? |
| 10:21.54 | Rawk | have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140918 |
| 10:22.09 | daniel_jackson | no no no I figured another way |
| 10:22.23 | daniel_jackson | you use gcc and g++ 3.4 |
| 10:22.24 | tarco | yeah good old dj |
| 10:22.53 | daniel_jackson | the glitch is only present in 4.0 |
| 10:23.04 | Rawk | they say there to "force -fno-strict-aliasing in their build system" |
| 10:23.20 | daniel_jackson | huh? |
| 10:23.46 | daniel_jackson | I was told set CFLAGS=m64 |
| 10:24.03 | daniel_jackson | set CPPFLAGS=-m64 |
| 10:24.16 | Rawk | all my brother did to fix the bug was put 'append-flags -fno-strict-aliasing' in the ebuild |
| 10:24.20 | daniel_jackson | and set CXXFLAGS=-m64 |
| 10:24.26 | daniel_jackson | really? |
| 10:24.38 | daniel_jackson | I'll have to write that down |
| 10:25.08 | tarco | hehe |
| 10:25.22 | daniel_jackson | hey I was able to use mtune and mcpu =athlon64 |
| 10:25.51 | daniel_jackson | but I had to for it to use gcc-3.4 |
| 10:26.39 | Rawk | if you read in that site I gave above it says "If the bug is caused by >=-O2 implying -fstrict-aliasing then the most correct workaround would be to add -fno-strict-aliasing....." |
| 10:27.00 | daniel_jackson | whats the smiley? |
| 10:27.02 | Rawk | this is if you are using gcc4 btw |
| 10:27.02 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:27.15 | daniel_jackson | I figured |
| 10:27.35 | Rawk | the gentoo smiley? |
| 10:28.12 | daniel_jackson | ed by >=-O2 implying -fs |
| 10:28.26 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:28.39 | daniel_jackson | -O |
| 10:28.42 | daniel_jackson | ? |
| 10:28.59 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:29.47 | Rawk | are you playing with me or really asking something? :-) |
| 10:29.59 | Shadowpillar | export CXXFLAGS=-01 is the fix |
| 10:30.20 | Shadowpillar | I use gcc4 and 64-bit |
| 10:30.32 | daniel_jackson | but that disables optimization |
| 10:31.19 | Shadowpillar | so, the game will still run fine, won't it? |
| 10:31.27 | Rawk | should do |
| 10:31.42 | Shadowpillar | k |
| 10:32.10 | Shadowpillar | and again, my question is, how did they generate changelog.in to changelog? what command did they run? I know how to do the rest |
| 10:32.12 | daniel_jackson | I set CC=gcc-3.4 CFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon64 -O3 -msse3 -m3dnow -mtune=athon64" |
| 10:32.39 | Rawk | yeah but you're use gcc3 ;-) |
| 10:33.07 | Rawk | *using |
| 10:33.07 | daniel_jackson | wel my client is still cooler than yours! :P |
| 10:33.12 | Shadowpillar | I know how to build a debian package, but the source package provides all the stuff in debian, it all just needs to be generated |
| 10:33.13 | Rawk | lol |
| 10:33.25 | Shadowpillar | which is my question |
| 10:33.35 | Shadowpillar | not on how to build a package, do you see what I'm saying now? |
| 10:34.07 | daniel_jackson | unfortunatly from my bzflag building experience, that debian directory is outdated |
| 10:34.57 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: you talking with tarco? |
| 10:35.08 | daniel_jackson | back and forth yes |
| 10:35.12 | Rawk | good |
| 10:35.31 | daniel_jackson | I'm multitasking upon multitasking |
| 10:35.41 | Shadowpillar | daniel_jackson: and that's not what I asked. what I'm asking is what commands do you run for all that to be generated to be properly built with dh_make |
| 10:35.46 | Rawk | nice job :-P |
| 10:36.54 | daniel_jackson | "dpkg-buildpackage" then you use dpkg -i Iwant2buildthedamnpackage.deb |
| 10:37.02 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:37.07 | Shadowpillar | again, not what I asked. |
| 10:37.33 | tarco | lol dj getting frustrated |
| 10:37.48 | Shadowpillar | what does dj mean? |
| 10:37.49 | daniel_jackson | dpkg-buildpackage initiates make |
| 10:38.14 | Shadowpillar | again. |
| 10:38.15 | Shadowpillar | dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 10:38.20 | daniel_jackson | it uses all that stuff in the debian dir |
| 10:38.24 | tarco | short for dabiel_jackson |
| 10:38.28 | Shadowpillar | because it doesn't exist because it needs to be generated |
| 10:38.48 | Shadowpillar | from changelog.in to changelog |
| 10:38.53 | Shadowpillar | that's what I'm asking |
| 10:39.02 | daniel_jackson | heres a work around |
| 10:39.16 | daniel_jackson | rename debian to deborig |
| 10:39.27 | daniel_jackson | then dh-make |
| 10:39.47 | daniel_jackson | it will generate a changelog |
| 10:39.48 | Shadowpillar | ..no. |
| 10:40.03 | daniel_jackson | then copy it into the deborig |
| 10:40.24 | Shadowpillar | are you just trolling me now? |
| 10:40.32 | daniel_jackson | rm the new "debian" dir and rename deborig to debian! ahhhhhhhh! |
| 10:40.37 | daniel_jackson | no |
| 10:40.44 | Shadowpillar | http://pastebin.com/827240 |
| 10:41.03 | Shadowpillar | I want to know, how you process changelog.in to become changelog. |
| 10:41.16 | Shadowpillar | what command does it. |
| 10:41.17 | Shadowpillar | etc |
| 10:41.28 | Shadowpillar | if you dont know, just say it |
| 10:41.35 | daniel_jackson | now you know why I'm a hardware guy first then a programmer |
| 10:42.06 | tarco | finaly |
| 10:42.17 | daniel_jackson | let google it |
| 10:42.25 | Shadowpillar | did |
| 10:42.26 | daniel_jackson | let me google it |
| 10:42.29 | Shadowpillar | nothing |
| 10:43.13 | tarco | same |
| 10:43.18 | tarco | how do you do that |
| 10:43.27 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:43.44 | Rawk | type /me ten something |
| 10:43.49 | Rawk | *then |
| 10:43.51 | daniel_jackson | don't worry rawk I can only beat my head on my desk |
| 10:44.00 | Rawk | ouch |
| 10:44.32 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:44.42 | daniel_jackson | I'm sorry pillar |
| 10:44.54 | Shadowpillar | whatever, forget it, I'll ask the ubuntu guys how they built the package from the native source. |
| 10:44.54 | daniel_jackson | I'm trying to help you |
| 10:45.37 | daniel_jackson | well that was a whicked googley |
| 10:45.44 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:45.58 | tarco | whickey googley? |
| 10:46.07 | Rawk | there seems to be misunderstanding going on, lol |
| 10:46.13 | daniel_jackson | I think its a british term |
| 10:46.16 | daniel_jackson | or phrase |
| 10:46.20 | tarco | oh |
| 10:46.52 | daniel_jackson | you know all about those weird brits tarco |
| 10:46.58 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:46.59 | tarco | yeah |
| 10:47.21 | tarco | i had a girl who liked me and she was brit |
| 10:47.57 | tarco | and she could not make up her mind |
| 10:47.58 | daniel_jackson | pillar its 2:45 in the morning here, so my brain isn't at full capacity right now |
| 10:48.15 | Shadowpillar | same here |
| 10:48.21 | Shadowpillar | 2:48 actually |
| 10:48.26 | daniel_jackson | oh yeah your in cali too |
| 10:48.31 | Shadowpillar | that's why I just said nevermind |
| 10:48.45 | Shadowpillar | not out of rudeness, just that you shouldnt fret over it |
| 10:48.53 | daniel_jackson | I hope you do find that answer |
| 10:49.09 | Shadowpillar | I just wanted to know one thing, you dont know it, so I'll look elsewhere |
| 10:49.17 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:49.25 | daniel_jackson | thats cool |
| 10:49.58 | daniel_jackson | well good luck pillar |
| 10:50.05 | Shadowpillar | btw |
| 10:50.11 | daniel_jackson | yeah? |
| 10:50.14 | Shadowpillar | the fix is ./debian/buildsnap |
| 10:50.22 | daniel_jackson | really? |
| 10:50.33 | Shadowpillar | er, I mean how to build the package |
| 10:50.42 | tarco | yah |
| 10:51.22 | *** join/#bzflag mikl (n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl) |
| 10:51.38 | daniel_jackson | well like I said earlier, I'm not a programmer, I'm a hardware specialist that loves debian and programming |
| 10:52.02 | daniel_jackson | I don't have all the answers |
| 10:52.39 | daniel_jackson | but I'll check out that fix |
| 10:53.41 | daniel_jackson | dude you ave some valium pills for me? |
| 10:53.56 | Shadowpillar | ibuprofen and water help headaches |
| 10:54.10 | daniel_jackson | I may need asprin |
| 10:54.52 | daniel_jackson | I swear the more knowlegde I get the more my head hurts! lol |
| 10:55.12 | tarco | now you know how i feal |
| 10:55.25 | daniel_jackson | you can sleep when your dead! lol |
| 10:55.39 | tarco | oh |
| 10:55.53 | daniel_jackson | that was on a coffee mug |
| 10:56.11 | daniel_jackson | they have it a think geek |
| 10:56.29 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:56.37 | daniel_jackson | I don't drink coffee |
| 10:56.45 | Rawk | cronic knowledge pains syndrome |
| 10:57.03 | daniel_jackson | CKPS yes |
| 10:57.10 | daniel_jackson | thats what I have |
| 10:57.20 | Rawk | lol |
| 10:57.28 | tarco | wow coolblender |
| 10:57.38 | tarco | on my seuse machine |
| 10:57.43 | daniel_jackson | nice |
| 10:57.43 | tarco | suse |
| 10:58.10 | tarco | maby i should convert my debian box to suse lol |
| 10:58.28 | Rawk | have you tried using the blender game engine? |
| 10:58.35 | daniel_jackson | well Rawk I made a simple certificate of deposit, calculator |
| 10:58.45 | tarco | thats what i was just mucking around with |
| 10:59.08 | Rawk | dj: oh your c program? |
| 10:59.13 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 10:59.37 | daniel_jackson | it was pretty fun to make actually |
| 10:59.49 | Rawk | Shadowpillar: export CXXFLAGS=-O1 fixes the bug because it doesn't enable -fstrict-aliasing, but the default, O2, does. |
| 11:00.09 | daniel_jackson | not much code to it either |
| 11:00.33 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: so does "certificate of deposit" mean? |
| 11:00.53 | daniel_jackson | its a saving account |
| 11:01.04 | Rawk | *what |
| 11:01.14 | daniel_jackson | for the banks |
| 11:01.20 | daniel_jackson | for banking |
| 11:01.22 | Rawk | ahh, ok |
| 11:01.44 | daniel_jackson | you start with an initial deposit |
| 11:02.10 | daniel_jackson | then every month you add a certain amount to it |
| 11:02.38 | daniel_jackson | at the end of each month they add interest to it |
| 11:02.38 | Rawk | an interest calc? |
| 11:02.54 | daniel_jackson | its more that just take |
| 11:03.19 | daniel_jackson | you have certain term |
| 11:03.27 | daniel_jackson | like a year |
| 11:03.37 | Rawk | oh |
| 11:03.53 | daniel_jackson | so you account "sits" and builds |
| 11:04.25 | daniel_jackson | like mine I have is $250US intial balance |
| 11:04.42 | daniel_jackson | I add in every month $40US |
| 11:05.08 | daniel_jackson | and at the end of each month I get 5.21% interest |
| 11:05.24 | daniel_jackson | on what ever is in my account |
| 11:05.39 | *** join/#bzflag Bluer (n=user@60.53.25.227) |
| 11:05.51 | daniel_jackson | I know |
| 11:05.55 | daniel_jackson | its cool |
| 11:06.03 | *** part/#bzflag Bluer (n=user@about/essy/terimahkSC/Bluer) |
| 11:06.15 | daniel_jackson | the math is this: |
| 11:06.18 | tarco | how would i put thoes bz flg files in to blender |
| 11:06.20 | *** join/#bzflag Bluer (n=user@about/essy/terimahkSC/Bluer) |
| 11:06.50 | daniel_jackson | actually I don't think you can |
| 11:07.03 | Rawk | i think you can |
| 11:07.09 | tarco | arg so i have to start form scratch |
| 11:07.17 | daniel_jackson | it ate mine |
| 11:07.20 | Rawk | sec. i'll the website |
| 11:07.32 | Rawk | *find |
| 11:07.34 | tarco | thanks rawk |
| 11:07.35 | daniel_jackson | you going to the exporter website? |
| 11:08.06 | tarco | hey dj sohiould i still use debian or should i got to suse |
| 11:08.25 | daniel_jackson | if suse works for you just use that |
| 11:08.43 | tarco | well debian we have had a whole pile of trouble with |
| 11:08.54 | daniel_jackson | I know! lol |
| 11:08.58 | *** join/#bzflag tupone_laptop (n=atupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 11:08.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v tupone_laptop] by ChanServ |
| 11:09.03 | tarco | unless ypu send me the ssh config file |
| 11:09.13 | daniel_jackson | it was the webexcel's fault! lol |
| 11:09.24 | tarco | but i don't have it no more |
| 11:10.22 | daniel_jackson | you know sometimes the maintainers screw with the packages |
| 11:10.33 | tarco | huh |
| 11:11.18 | Rawk | tarco: http://wiki.teppic.homelinux.net/index.php/Main_Page do you have this? |
| 11:11.49 | daniel_jackson | yeah go there tarco you need to download that |
| 11:11.55 | tarco | nopeok |
| 11:12.23 | Rawk | you can both in and export |
| 11:12.35 | tarco | cool |
| 11:12.40 | tarco | how do i put it in |
| 11:12.42 | tarco | lol |
| 11:13.08 | daniel_jackson | well I made the map in blender exported it to .bzw format |
| 11:13.39 | daniel_jackson | then tryed to import it and it didn't import things correctly |
| 11:13.39 | tarco | yeah but i ment how do i put the thing in to blender |
| 11:13.57 | daniel_jackson | it has instructions there |
| 11:14.06 | tarco | oh ok |
| 11:14.11 | Rawk | tarco: have you downloaded it? |
| 11:14.56 | tarco | no my suse machin in no ton the net and my debian box well lets not go there |
| 11:15.16 | tarco | bacily it screwed |
| 11:15.31 | tarco | thedistro is unles dj can fix it |
| 11:15.36 | Rawk | well how are you going to install it then lol |
| 11:15.58 | daniel_jackson | or unless tarco reinstalls it |
| 11:16.11 | tarco | well i was just checking if ther was a problem |
| 11:16.17 | tarco | well the mirrors not working |
| 11:16.31 | Rawk | wait a minute! you must be on the net, as yr talking to me! |
| 11:16.42 | daniel_jackson | and you wonder why I have headaches Rawk |
| 11:16.46 | tarco | yes but no on the suse i am on a windows box |
| 11:16.52 | tarco | yucky |
| 11:16.57 | Rawk | oooooooooooooooook |
| 11:17.00 | Rawk | lol |
| 11:17.23 | daniel_jackson | he has multiple machines rawk |
| 11:17.24 | Rawk | do you have blender on yr windows? |
| 11:17.32 | tarco | no on sue |
| 11:17.34 | tarco | suse |
| 11:17.37 | Rawk | ahh |
| 11:17.50 | daniel_jackson | tarco download blender to your 2k box |
| 11:18.04 | tarco | and i was wondering if i should just install suse on to the debian box |
| 11:18.16 | tarco | can i put blender on to windowsa |
| 11:18.25 | tarco | and it a 2003 server box now |
| 11:18.34 | tarco | 2k packed it up |
| 11:18.49 | daniel_jackson | valium! valium! Does anyone have any valium? |
| 11:18.59 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 11:19.23 | tarco | oh dear i am having that same problem again as i had thimorning |
| 11:19.36 | daniel_jackson | hey Rawk can you help tarco install blender and bzw tools |
| 11:19.49 | Rawk | on windows? |
| 11:19.50 | daniel_jackson | I need to get some sleep |
| 11:19.53 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 11:20.03 | Rawk | yes you do |
| 11:20.03 | tarco | arg noo noo nooo |
| 11:20.12 | tarco | stupid router |
| 11:21.00 | daniel_jackson | well I'll se you guys, and tarco I feel yourpain |
| 11:21.00 | tarco | dj i am having troubes with my router |
| 11:21.15 | daniel_jackson | its your router or your dsl modem? |
| 11:21.16 | tarco | i can't fully get to the net |
| 11:21.32 | daniel_jackson | check your modem |
| 11:21.35 | Rawk | bye dj, rest in peace, but still alive of corse! |
| 11:21.36 | tarco | don't know but it has to be my router |
| 11:21.41 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 11:21.53 | daniel_jackson | no it may be your ISP |
| 11:21.55 | tarco | the dmz did it again |
| 11:22.07 | daniel_jackson | well turn off the dmz |
| 11:22.23 | daniel_jackson | you don't need that on |
| 11:22.33 | tarco | well i can't get to the router |
| 11:22.48 | tarco | it keeps resseting the connection |
| 11:23.10 | tarco | i'll have do kill it again |
| 11:23.24 | daniel_jackson | sleepy sleepy sleepy |
| 11:23.30 | tarco | ok cu |
| 11:23.44 | tarco | rawk |
| 11:23.52 | daniel_jackson | I'm sry tarco try manually reseting it |
| 11:23.55 | tarco | you sleep well |
| 11:24.05 | tarco | ok will do |
| 11:24.16 | daniel_jackson | I'll try to if my cat doesn't start yelling at me |
| 11:24.27 | tarco | ok |
| 11:24.29 | daniel_jackson | bye guys |
| 11:24.29 | Rawk | oh sry yeah? |
| 11:24.31 | tarco | rawk you there |
| 11:24.34 | tarco | cu dj |
| 11:24.36 | Rawk | yup |
| 11:24.39 | *** part/#bzflag daniel_jackson (n=prolix@cpe-66-74-196-54.san.res.rr.com) |
| 11:24.41 | Rawk | cu |
| 11:24.59 | tarco | can blender be installed on a windows machin |
| 11:25.07 | Rawk | yes yes |
| 11:25.19 | tarco | oh |
| 11:25.28 | Rawk | sec. |
| 11:25.45 | Rawk | http://blender.org/cms/Blender.31.0.html |
| 11:26.14 | Rawk | get MS Windows Installer, Python 2.4 |
| 11:26.23 | tarco | ok |
| 11:27.00 | tarco | i'll have to do that when i get my dsl back up proply again |
| 11:27.30 | Rawk | oh |
| 11:27.36 | Rawk | not working? |
| 11:27.59 | tarco | well the way my routers playing up i cant get the http port to work |
| 11:28.19 | tarco | and the ftp and a few other ports |
| 11:28.33 | tarco | the dmz when on does it |
| 11:29.09 | Rawk | is that on your windows machine? |
| 11:29.25 | tarco | no its a linksys wrg45g |
| 11:29.33 | tarco | wr45g |
| 11:29.42 | tarco | somthing like that |
| 11:30.31 | Rawk | so, how come you can talk to me? |
| 11:30.37 | Rawk | on irc |
| 11:31.28 | tarco | idon't know it must of just happend cause anything thats on before it happens is ok it still goe out but anything after it well it don go out |
| 11:32.07 | Rawk | that's weird |
| 11:32.13 | tarco | yeah |
| 11:32.46 | Rawk | can you load http://blender.org/cms/Blender.31.0.html ok? |
| 11:33.05 | tarco | nope |
| 11:33.39 | tarco | ok now i can |
| 11:33.47 | Rawk | ahh good |
| 11:33.59 | tarco | i turned my 200 |
| 11:34.05 | tarco | 2003 server off |
| 11:34.26 | tarco | huh well blow me down |
| 11:35.03 | Rawk | download the top one, "MS Windows Installer, Python 2.4..." |
| 11:35.15 | tarco | ok but would not the zip be better |
| 11:35.25 | tarco | supose it don't matter |
| 11:35.27 | Rawk | hmm, maybe |
| 11:35.43 | Rawk | but the installer may be easier |
| 11:36.16 | Rawk | working? |
| 11:36.25 | tarco | ok downloading |
| 11:36.34 | Rawk | great |
| 11:36.57 | tarco | poor dj |
| 11:37.32 | Rawk | yeah, didn't sound too healthy |
| 11:37.34 | tarco | he has not had a good |
| 11:37.37 | tarco | day |
| 11:37.58 | Rawk | *sigh* it happens |
| 11:38.13 | tarco | well some idiot told him of for spenidng to mutch time helping pple and got up hime for being disable |
| 11:38.20 | tarco | also |
| 11:38.40 | tarco | ok installing blender |
| 11:38.50 | Rawk | that's not nice of them |
| 11:39.18 | tarco | na it was not |
| 11:39.24 | tarco | whopes wrong download |
| 11:39.54 | Rawk | oh? |
| 11:40.06 | tarco | it was the .zip |
| 11:40.11 | tarco | and it did not work |
| 11:40.20 | Rawk | ahh, oh well |
| 11:40.29 | Rawk | did not work? |
| 11:40.36 | tarco | so the .exe is now downloading |
| 11:40.41 | Rawk | good |
| 11:41.42 | tarco | danr if i knew it could be installed on a windows box i would not of gone out and brought a new machinf |
| 11:42.31 | Rawk | you bought a new machine just for running blender? |
| 11:42.39 | tarco | yeah |
| 11:42.47 | tarco | caus i thought it needed linux |
| 11:42.59 | tarco | hens dj helping me with debian |
| 11:43.36 | Rawk | heh, no, blender is pretty cross-platform |
| 11:43.46 | tarco | now i have another spare machin |
| 11:44.11 | tarco | casu my windows bok is the bes then the new one for linux |
| 11:44.38 | tarco | so do i have to get addons so i can import and xport bzflag files |
| 11:45.13 | tarco | rawk |
| 11:45.26 | Rawk | ahh, oh sry |
| 11:45.44 | Rawk | yes you need..... |
| 11:46.06 | tarco | i'm listening |
| 11:46.25 | Rawk | http://wiki.teppic.homelinux.net/index.php/Installation-Windows |
| 11:46.44 | Rawk | download this: http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/BZWTools-2.0.2.zip |
| 11:47.21 | tarco | what then unzip it into blender |
| 11:48.12 | Rawk | umm, i only know how to for blender, let me check the sitw |
| 11:48.18 | Rawk | *site |
| 11:48.35 | Rawk | *how to for linux |
| 11:49.09 | tarco | oh ok |
| 11:49.11 | Rawk | ok, have you installed blender yet? |
| 11:49.16 | tarco | yes |
| 11:49.49 | tarco | yes |
| 11:49.54 | Rawk | good now go to some where like C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender |
| 11:50.15 | tarco | yes |
| 11:50.40 | Rawk | actually, now go into scripts |
| 11:51.05 | tarco | in that folder |
| 11:51.10 | Rawk | ok... |
| 11:51.31 | tarco | yep |
| 11:51.47 | Rawk | unzip BZWTools-2.0.2.zip somewhere |
| 11:52.15 | tarco | extracted |
| 11:53.21 | Rawk | ok, now, put BZWToolkit-2.1.py, bzwImport.py, and BZWToolkit-2.1.py |
| 11:53.41 | tarco | yep |
| 11:53.48 | Rawk | into the .blender\scripts dir |
| 11:54.03 | tarco | yes |
| 11:54.41 | Rawk | is there a folder in scripts called bpymodules? |
| 11:54.50 | tarco | yes |
| 11:55.53 | Rawk | ok, put the folder called bzflag from where you unziped into bpymodules |
| 11:56.11 | tarco | yep done |
| 11:56.34 | Rawk | ok, now crank up blender.. |
| 11:56.51 | tarco | blender is up |
| 11:57.21 | tarco | what am i to look foor |
| 11:57.23 | tarco | for |
| 11:57.27 | Rawk | do you know much about blender |
| 11:57.32 | Rawk | ? |
| 11:57.34 | tarco | not a lot |
| 11:57.44 | tarco | i am a n00b |
| 11:57.46 | Rawk | ok, ummm |
| 11:58.01 | tarco | if thats what they call it |
| 11:58.44 | Rawk | put yr mouse up near the top, so that it shows the arrows pointing both ways |
| 11:59.03 | tarco | yes |
| 11:59.13 | Rawk | right click |
| 11:59.32 | tarco | yes |
| 11:59.32 | Rawk | choose Split Area |
| 12:00.00 | Rawk | then click to split |
| 12:00.08 | tarco | left or right click |
| 12:00.31 | Rawk | right click on my machine |
| 12:00.44 | tarco | ok now i have two arias to work on |
| 12:01.15 | Rawk | oh to split u mean, i left clich |
| 12:01.22 | Rawk | ahh ok |
| 12:01.37 | Rawk | ok now.... |
| 12:01.56 | tarco | no i only have one |
| 12:02.00 | tarco | now |
| 12:02.06 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:02.09 | Rawk | oh |
| 12:02.27 | Rawk | try splitting again |
| 12:02.57 | tarco | yep |
| 12:03.02 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:03.09 | tarco | i like one aria |
| 12:03.34 | Rawk | go to the bottom left of yr splitted area |
| 12:04.06 | Rawk | ... and click on the button that looks like a grid |
| 12:04.08 | tarco | yep |
| 12:04.29 | Rawk | choose Scripts Window |
| 12:04.37 | tarco | yep |
| 12:05.19 | Rawk | now, do you have two windows, one a 3d view, one a script window? |
| 12:05.29 | tarco | no |
| 12:05.49 | Rawk | you just have a script window? |
| 12:05.50 | tarco | i screwed it up i accerdently put it back to one scree |
| 12:05.56 | Rawk | oh |
| 12:06.13 | Rawk | try splitting again then |
| 12:06.26 | tarco | now i have scrip and 3d |
| 12:06.32 | Rawk | ok good |
| 12:07.27 | Rawk | now, down the bottom of yr scriot window click on the words "Scripts" |
| 12:07.41 | Rawk | *script |
| 12:07.51 | tarco | yes |
| 12:08.16 | Rawk | now choose the top one, Update Menus |
| 12:08.41 | tarco | yep |
| 12:09.51 | Rawk | now you should be able to go to Scripts->Object->BZWToolKit.... |
| 12:10.06 | tarco | yes |
| 12:10.41 | Rawk | it should pop up with something |
| 12:10.55 | tarco | its got add edit meshexport |
| 12:11.00 | tarco | exit update |
| 12:11.02 | Rawk | yup |
| 12:11.33 | Rawk | ok, that's one of them, now exit |
| 12:11.43 | Rawk | now press exit |
| 12:11.44 | tarco | yep |
| 12:12.24 | Rawk | then go Scripts->Inport->BZW Inpoter |
| 12:12.36 | Rawk | *Inporter |
| 12:12.53 | tarco | yep |
| 12:13.12 | tarco | i do have some file to import |
| 12:13.31 | Rawk | ok, try inporting then |
| 12:13.58 | tarco | so i have to type what folder they are in |
| 12:15.31 | tarco | scrypte error check console |
| 12:15.40 | Rawk | oh |
| 12:16.27 | Rawk | hmm, weird, didn't work for me, ether |
| 12:17.00 | tarco | hmm what console |
| 12:20.11 | tarco | you have any idears rawk |
| 12:20.34 | tarco | ioe error could not load image |
| 12:20.36 | Rawk | hmm, im not sure if there is a console in blender, but i run fron the command line |
| 12:20.48 | tarco | thats the error |
| 12:21.14 | tarco | what ever that means |
| 12:21.17 | Rawk | my error was: TypeError: iterable argument required |
| 12:21.38 | tarco | hehehe different to my error |
| 12:21.45 | Rawk | but i think i know what yr error is |
| 12:22.09 | Rawk | open that word file it a text editor |
| 12:22.52 | tarco | what like note pad |
| 12:23.12 | tarco | or in blender |
| 12:23.12 | Rawk | yeah |
| 12:23.18 | Rawk | no |
| 12:23.30 | Rawk | note pad or something |
| 12:23.53 | tarco | #################################################### |
| 12:23.53 | tarco | ########### BZW version 2.0.4 map file ############# |
| 12:23.53 | tarco | ## Created by BZW-Import/Export Tools for Blender ## |
| 12:23.53 | tarco | ## http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/BZWTools/ ## |
| 12:23.54 | tarco | ## http://www.blender3d.org ## |
| 12:23.54 | tarco | #################################################### |
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| 12:25.09 | Rawk | ahh back |
| 12:25.22 | tarco | yeah it kiked me |
| 12:25.44 | tarco | kicked me |
| 12:25.47 | Rawk | have you opened it in note pad? |
| 12:26.10 | tarco | yes and what i pased before i got kicked is what it sasys |
| 12:26.53 | Rawk | ahh, you don't need to paste the whole map on here ;-) |
| 12:27.01 | tarco | srry] |
| 12:27.12 | Rawk | now look though it and find where it has an address to a website |
| 12:27.53 | tarco | http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/BZWTools/ #### http://www.blender3d.org |
| 12:28.34 | tarco | http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/textures/sandmarble.png |
| 12:28.37 | Rawk | no, down further, something like: addtexture http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/concrete-silvercat.png |
| 12:28.52 | tarco | http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/textures/45BrushMetal.png |
| 12:28.58 | Rawk | yes |
| 12:29.34 | tarco | thats all the web sites and the rest is all gooblesdy gook |
| 12:30.04 | Rawk | you need to replace that with the path to an image on your computer |
| 12:30.14 | tarco | oh ok |
| 12:30.18 | Rawk | so ... |
| 12:30.28 | tarco | arg |
| 12:30.49 | Rawk | in a browser go to http://www.teppic.homelinux.net/textures/45BrushMetal.png and save that picture |
| 12:30.50 | tarco | could i get that texture off the web |
| 12:30.57 | Rawk | yeah |
| 12:32.45 | tarco | then change the web addresses to where the file is stores |
| 12:32.52 | tarco | and saver |
| 12:32.56 | tarco | save |
| 12:33.10 | Rawk | yup |
| 12:33.16 | tarco | ok |
| 12:34.18 | Rawk | now go into blender and try inporting again |
| 12:34.18 | tarco | any thing else i sahoul know before atempting to reconstruct dj maps |
| 12:34.25 | tarco | ok |
| 12:36.18 | tarco | just still getting a few mor textures |
| 12:38.27 | Rawk | what is that? |
| 12:39.09 | tarco | ground.png |
| 12:39.58 | tarco | arg even more |
| 12:40.07 | Rawk | i don't think you'll need that one as it's a standar one |
| 12:40.16 | Rawk | *standard |
| 12:40.24 | tarco | other that only dj has |
| 12:41.51 | tarco | drat |
| 12:42.15 | Rawk | actually, go to \Blender\.blender\scripts\bpymodules\bzflag and open BZconfig.py in note pad |
| 12:44.39 | tarco | yep |
| 12:45.28 | Rawk | what does BZFlag_texture_path equil? |
| 12:45.45 | Rawk | *equal |
| 12:47.46 | Rawk | tarco? |
| 12:47.48 | tarco | bztexpath=BZFlag_texture_pathcstexpath=Custom_texture_pathcstexhost=Server_texture_host |
| 12:48.50 | tarco | is that right |
| 12:48.59 | Rawk | hmm, doesn't look right, something like BZFlag_texture_path='C:\\Program Files\\bzflag2.0.8\\data\\' |
| 12:49.27 | Rawk | depending were blender is installed |
| 12:49.54 | Rawk | *not blender, bzflag sorry |
| 12:50.15 | tarco | Custom_texture_path='C:\\Documents and Settings\\andy\\My Documents\\My BZFlag Files\\Textures\\ |
| 12:50.47 | Rawk | yup, that looks right for that |
| 12:51.24 | tarco | BZFlag_texture_path='C:\\Program Files\\BZFlag2.0.8\\data\\ |
| 12:51.35 | Rawk | yes, good |
| 12:51.45 | Rawk | now save that |
| 12:51.54 | tarco | yep |
| 12:52.18 | Rawk | now it should find the standard textures |
| 12:52.33 | Rawk | try inporting again |
| 12:52.56 | tarco | still can't import thet groud texture |
| 12:53.21 | Rawk | btw those paths need a ' at the end of them |
| 12:53.36 | Rawk | BZFlag_texture_path='C:\\Program Files\\BZFlag2.0.8\\data\\' NOT BZFlag_texture_path='C:\\Program Files\\BZFlag2.0.8\\data\\ |
| 12:54.01 | Rawk | do you get me? |
| 12:54.13 | tarco | there aint no diffrence |
| 12:54.23 | tarco | oh |
| 12:54.29 | tarco | now i get you |
| 12:54.37 | Rawk | yeah one has a ' on the end |
| 12:55.46 | tarco | they all have the' at the end |
| 12:56.24 | tarco | it was my copy and past |
| 12:56.30 | Rawk | ahh |
| 12:57.10 | Rawk | hmm, my bed time too |
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| 12:57.29 | tarco | maby we can figger this out later |
| 12:57.36 | Rawk | you live in auzzie? |
| 12:57.42 | tarco | yeah |
| 12:57.50 | tarco | like 11 pm where i am |
| 12:58.01 | Rawk | ahh, so it's late there too |
| 12:58.13 | tarco | yeah but not as late as you |
| 12:58.19 | tarco | or early |
| 12:58.20 | Rawk | 1:58 pm here |
| 12:58.22 | tarco | lol |
| 12:58.38 | tarco | that like after luntch |
| 12:58.42 | Rawk | I'd better get to bed |
| 12:58.43 | tarco | lunch |
| 12:58.57 | tarco | lol me to cu later |
| 12:59.35 | Rawk | ok, catch up another time :-) |
| 12:59.35 | tarco | rawk |
| 12:59.39 | tarco | ok |
| 12:59.45 | tarco | ty |
| 12:59.54 | Rawk | bye, and g'nite |
| 12:59.58 | tarco | iok |
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| 13:48.11 | Shadowpillar | still getting my ass handed to me in bzflag lol |
| 13:48.17 | Shadowpillar | I wish I could code |
| 13:48.27 | Shadowpillar | I'd create a more realistic tank warfare game |
| 13:49.43 | Shadowpillar | one thing I think should be fixed in bzflag |
| 13:50.12 | Shadowpillar | options on the server side to prevent friendly fire in a proactive manner |
| 13:50.52 | Shadowpillar | such as not phasing your own team, and another option, upon shooting a team mate, they dont explode, but you do |
| 13:51.00 | Shadowpillar | both things would stop tk'ing |
| 13:51.15 | Shadowpillar | so you dont get fags coming going "LOL *SHOOT*" |
| 13:51.17 | Shadowpillar | ":)" |
| 13:51.20 | Shadowpillar | *leave* |
| 13:51.25 | Shadowpillar | *come back* |
| 13:51.31 | Shadowpillar | lather rinse repeat |
| 13:51.48 | Shadowpillar | I dunno why sanity checks like that havent been put in place |
| 13:58.52 | Shadowpillar | be cool to have a game where you can run around on a battlefield as a soldierwith all kinds of vehicles and weapons scattered about |
| 13:59.17 | Shadowpillar | with buildings and small forests |
| 13:59.23 | Shadowpillar | and helicopters and tanks |
| 13:59.40 | Shadowpillar | helicopters would be win. |
| 14:00.21 | Shadowpillar | with more realistic sound effects and up to date graphics |
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| 14:01.34 | Shadowpillar | but all opensourced and stuff |
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| 18:45.22 | A_Heart_Attack | anyone know how to make the bases colored on my radar |
| 18:47.56 | ts | Umm, they are coloured when I use enhanced radar |
| 18:52.17 | A_Heart_Attack | not for me |
| 19:00.35 | blast007 | A_Heart_Attack: have you tried deleting your config file? :P |
| 19:05.27 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 19:05.29 | A_Heart_Attack | worked |
| 19:08.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:14.08 | A_Heart_Attack | its hard to see blue tanks |
| 19:14.23 | A_Heart_Attack | someone was telling someone how to fix that |
| 19:17.00 | blast007 | set blueradar "0.4 0.8 1" |
| 19:17.15 | blast007 | (as an example) |
| 19:17.41 | blast007 | R G B colors on a scale of 0 to 1 |
| 19:17.50 | A_Heart_Attack | where? |
| 19:17.52 | blast007 | all 1's would be white |
| 19:17.54 | blast007 | in your config |
| 19:17.55 | A_Heart_Attack | in client |
| 19:17.57 | A_Heart_Attack | oh |
| 19:18.10 | blast007 | or join a game, and do: /localset blueradar "0.4 0.8 1" |
| 19:18.19 | A_Heart_Attack | set blueradar "0.4 0.8 1" --- what would that make the color? |
| 19:18.25 | blast007 | try it |
| 19:18.28 | blast007 | experiment |
| 19:18.47 | Birdie | watch out with that though, till i got my blue fine again..:) |
| 19:19.04 | A_Heart_Attack | err... my config disapeared |
| 19:19.12 | A_Heart_Attack | nbvm |
| 19:19.15 | A_Heart_Attack | *nvm |
| 19:20.28 | blast007 | A_Heart_Attack: here's some examples: http://www.avatar.se/molscript/doc/colour_names.html |
| 19:20.59 | blast007 | royalblue on that page might be one to try |
| 19:21.58 | A_Heart_Attack | naa |
| 19:22.01 | A_Heart_Attack | i like what it is |
| 19:22.33 | blast007 | k |
| 19:22.44 | blast007 | make all the teams white ;) |
| 19:23.04 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 19:24.09 | blast007 | "Hey, don't shoot me! I'm on the white team too!! Gah, ban him!!" |
| 19:26.24 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 19:59.23 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 19:59.37 | [NP]Tangent | my high strength, rounded to two decimal places, is 13.37 |
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| 20:06.08 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: nice :) |
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| 20:31.02 | a_meteorite | :o |
| 20:31.46 | ibunny | :D |
| 20:32.40 | Birdie | poor jeff |
| 20:32.48 | ibunny | jelous Birdie |
| 20:32.53 | Birdie | not at all:) |
| 20:33.12 | tupone_laptop | hi ibunny |
| 20:33.22 | ibunny | hi tupo |
| 20:33.33 | Birdie | heyo master tupone |
| 20:36.57 | tupone_laptop | hi birdie, again near to you :) |
| 20:37.47 | ibunny | cause.... |
| 20:38.07 | ibunny | cbg cbg <3<3 gets .. the warm of the fever ibunny |
| 20:38.16 | CBG | yumm |
| 20:40.28 | Birdie | tupone: where this time?:) |
| 20:41.03 | tupone_laptop | again near lieges, Riemst, Limburg |
| 20:41.29 | Birdie | you seem to be in belgium a lot:) |
| 20:41.31 | tupone_laptop | lieges -> Luik |
| 20:42.10 | tupone_laptop | been this year for 3 month |
| 20:42.14 | ts | tupone_laptop: Looks like you're near me, too ;) |
| 20:42.35 | ibunny | ts.. bad bad rosti eater |
| 20:42.35 | tupone_laptop | where are you? I'm going to visit Aachen tomorrow |
| 20:42.52 | ts | Frankfurt/Main |
| 20:43.13 | tupone_laptop | ahh, same as Jolie |
| 20:43.26 | Birdie | maybe they know each other:) |
| 20:44.18 | ts | That would be new to me ;) |
| 20:45.33 | tupone_laptop | ts. no way to be in Aachen tomorrow, to get a lunch together? |
| 20:46.36 | tupone_laptop | I guess is a little far :/ |
| 20:47.02 | ts | sadly too far and I'm busy :/ |
| 20:47.59 | ibunny | tupone_laptop: u come to frankfurt and have some rosties for lunch with ts and me :P |
| 20:48.10 | ibunny | hahaha |
| 20:48.16 | tupone_laptop | aww, maybe I accept :) |
| 20:48.35 | ibunny | well.. im scared of ts... |
| 20:48.39 | ts | :o |
| 20:48.46 | ibunny | he eats rostis! |
| 20:49.00 | ibunny | :) |
| 20:49.02 | ts | haha |
| 20:49.19 | ts | They taste good :p |
| 20:49.24 | ibunny | bad bad bad |
| 20:49.29 | ibunny | not healthy. |
| 20:50.28 | ibunny | see tupone_laptop if u wanna have lunch with ts all u need is rosties. |
| 20:50.35 | ts | True but if you argument that way then I shouldn't breathe too much because oxygen causes cancer :p |
| 20:50.54 | ibunny | persacly... dont uhave ur own oxygen bubble? |
| 20:51.27 | ts | ~spell persacly |
| 20:51.45 | ts | Hmm, what is that? :S |
| 20:51.48 | ibunny | lol |
| 20:51.52 | ibunny | its a mix word. |
| 20:52.20 | ibunny | PERfec + exacly |
| 20:52.33 | ibunny | hm no wait.. |
| 20:52.34 | ibunny | :P |
| 20:52.44 | ibunny | hm yes. |
| 20:53.31 | ibunny | then again my spelling skills are not the best. |
| 20:53.53 | ts | You mean _speling_ ;) |
| 20:54.00 | ibunny | hm no |
| 20:54.01 | ts | j/k |
| 20:54.13 | ibunny | so why r u busy tomorrow? |
| 20:54.16 | ibunny | is sunday... |
| 20:54.36 | ts | poor me has to code some haskell :/ |
| 20:54.40 | ibunny | bah |
| 20:54.42 | ibunny | code.. |
| 20:54.50 | ibunny | but im sure u have time to eat. |
| 20:55.01 | tupone_laptop | you mean cook some of it? |
| 20:55.16 | ibunny | cook some code? interesting. |
| 20:55.24 | tupone_laptop | cook some haskell |
| 20:56.05 | ibunny | see tupo u might have a chance to have lunch with mr ts if u r in frankfurt |
| 20:56.40 | tupone_laptop | but I will not, too far :/ |
| 20:57.03 | ibunny | oh well.. |
| 20:57.08 | ibunny | no rostis for you then. |
| 20:57.12 | ts | Hehe |
| 20:58.16 | ts | I can understand it, traveling costs a lot of time :( |
| 20:58.36 | Birdie | and money |
| 20:58.39 | Birdie | (yes i'm a student) |
| 20:58.47 | ibunny | aachem is faaaaaaaaaaaar |
| 21:01.01 | ibunny | ts manu sagt das du bist sehr gut und lecker. |
| 21:01.13 | Manu | :/ |
| 21:01.37 | ts | What? :o |
| 21:01.41 | Birdie | when ibunny is here, always flirting with the boys:) |
| 21:01.55 | Manu | I didn't say it :/ |
| 21:02.06 | ibunny | hehe birdie im definetly NOT flirting. |
| 21:02.18 | ibunny | manu manu :D bueno almost. |
| 21:02.24 | ts | Manu: I think she's joking around ;) |
| 21:02.31 | Birdie | hmm who the believe |
| 21:02.32 | Manu | yes |
| 21:02.44 | ibunny | hehe the thing is manu says that a lot and is funny :) |
| 21:03.06 | Birdie | "i didnt say it" ? |
| 21:03.31 | ibunny | well without the lecker part and you. :P |
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| 22:40.10 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: ping |
| 22:40.31 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 22:40.48 | a_meteorite | can I have a plugin unload itself if it encounters something fatal? |
| 22:40.58 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:41.11 | a_meteorite | what about return 1 in bz_Load? |
| 22:41.25 | JeffM2501 | then it'll thow an error |
| 22:41.30 | a_meteorite | aw |
| 22:41.31 | JeffM2501 | just don't register anything |
| 22:41.38 | JeffM2501 | and then you won't ever be called again |
| 22:41.49 | a_meteorite | k |
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| 22:53.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 5 dirs): New low gravity flag, patch [ 1590967 ] |
| 22:54.02 | a_meteorite | a new low gravity flag? :o |
| 22:54.03 | Theme97 | oooohhhh... bad flag? |
| 22:54.18 | JeffM2501 | ts, mark it as implemented on the wiki too |
| 22:54.46 | ts | JeffM2501: I don't have a wiki account :( |
| 22:54.49 | JeffM2501 | make one |
| 22:55.02 | ts | Eeek at that late hour ;) |
| 22:55.16 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 22:55.19 | ts | I'm closing the patch, ok? |
| 22:55.23 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 22:55.26 | ts | at SF I mean |
| 22:55.31 | JeffM2501 | I know |
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| 23:11.53 | ts | JeffM2501: How can I mark it as done there? |
| 23:17.08 | JeffM2501 | just take it off |
| 23:17.13 | JeffM2501 | I guess |
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| 23:18.00 | ts | Hmm, should I give it the CVS colour? |
| 23:18.17 | ts | and move it to top? |
| 23:18.47 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 23:21.24 | ts | The one who wrote that was crazy...such a bad formating |
| 23:23.31 | ts | saving.. |
| 23:23.43 | ts | done |
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| 23:39.08 | ts | ..now I need to sleeep *yawn* |
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