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| 00:20.13 | brlcad | TimRiker: ahh, another tid-bit .. "restart" wasn't a valid command, which results in an ipfw flush (resulting in default deny rule) .. a "start" will do a proper reload by itself even if already started. i added a preventive script to protect against a flushed firewall that checks every 5 minutes, just fyi, so it shouldn't persist for long even if it happens again. |
| 00:22.03 | DTRemenak | hm, it should be valid...what version of freebsd are you running? |
| 00:23.37 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:24.08 | brlcad | last stable in the 5 line |
| 00:25.28 | brlcad | it's just a script, so trivial to add a restart but that's not what it currently did (just added code to load an open firewall on an unknown) |
| 00:27.22 | DTRemenak | in 5.1 there was a commit to rc.d/ipfw: "Make the 'restart' command work. Otherwise, it would successfully stop ipfw, but not enable it again." that would imply that there is a restart command, no? |
| 00:27.55 | brlcad | ahh, that's a different script |
| 00:28.15 | DTRemenak | 'tis the one he used for restart |
| 00:28.18 | DTRemenak | <TimRiker>sudo /etc/rc.d/ipfw restart just dropped all the rules. |
| 00:28.40 | brlcad | yeah, I misread |
| 00:29.00 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 00:29.00 | brlcad | that ends up invoking /etc/rc.firewall .. which is what doesn't support restart |
| 00:29.05 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:29.16 | DTRemenak | well he ran /etc/rc.firewall directly too |
| 00:29.17 | brlcad | it doesn't pass it through, it does the right thing |
| 00:29.18 | SportChick | DTRemenak: did you tell brlcad about /killing the other day? |
| 00:29.22 | TimRiker | I tried that one first and it dropped all the rules. then I tried /etc/rc.firewall and it dropped all the traffic. |
| 00:29.35 | DTRemenak | SportChick: brlcad is aware of our apache problems :) |
| 00:29.39 | brlcad | yeah, it was the latter event that flushed |
| 00:29.48 | SportChick | DTRemenak: k :) |
| 00:30.03 | TimRiker | so what's the Right Way for future reference? |
| 00:30.20 | brlcad | TimRiker: you did the right way, and even /etc/rc.firewall will work now too |
| 00:30.26 | TimRiker | sweet. |
| 00:30.29 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 00:30.38 | brlcad | somehow (tm) the firewall rules file lost the allow rules |
| 00:30.42 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:31.31 | DTRemenak | what I really wanted to do was remove the rules with ipfw(8), but you have a whole bunch of rules with the same id |
| 00:31.39 | brlcad | it worked if you loaded manually, but not via the scripts |
| 00:32.01 | brlcad | might have ran into the problem during the next reboot |
| 00:32.31 | brlcad | DTRemenak: that's on purpose, so you can just blow away 10000, etc |
| 00:32.48 | DTRemenak | brlcad: that's what sets are for ;) |
| 00:33.29 | DTRemenak | yeah, the problem is when (like today) you want to remove just one rule |
| 00:34.11 | DTRemenak | not that I'm suggesting you should change it, that'd be a pain :) |
| 00:34.32 | brlcad | well, that wouldn't fix it either given how it's all set up even with sets |
| 00:34.46 | brlcad | as the IP is logged to the rules file |
| 00:35.00 | brlcad | with another script scanning logs and would readd it even if removed from the rules |
| 00:35.22 | brlcad | have to evaluate why someone got on the list in the first place |
| 00:35.30 | DTRemenak | it will be readded now anyway? |
| 00:35.39 | brlcad | it being? |
| 00:35.43 | brlcad | probably |
| 00:35.45 | DTRemenak | the one we removed |
| 00:36.04 | brlcad | which was? |
| 00:37.41 | brlcad | DTRemenak: ahh, no, it's protected .. Tim commented it out of the rules |
| 00:38.13 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 00:38.52 | brlcad | it's also a 20000/20001 rule, which could just be removed from rules and it won't readd -- that checks live connections |
| 00:39.09 | SportChick | JeffM2501: this is probably the wrong time to remind you but you asked me to remind you to add the tallies for false positives/negatives |
| 00:39.11 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 00:39.21 | JeffM2501 | I did indeed |
| 00:40.35 | brlcad | that IP had at least 20 active http connections going |
| 00:40.52 | brlcad | (simultaneous) |
| 00:41.59 | DTRemenak | 'tis probably dynamic - do you have datestamps? |
| 00:45.09 | brlcad | DTRemenak: they don't accumulate.. that's an instantaneous netstat check |
| 00:45.47 | brlcad | I've removed all the 20k's and increased the limit in case there's some condition that might cause the false positive |
| 00:47.12 | DTRemenak | brlcad: just wondering WHEN there were 20 connections...if it was months ago, the ip could be a different owner |
| 00:47.39 | brlcad | ah, that's true |
| 00:47.42 | DTRemenak | I meant datestamping the firewall rule |
| 00:47.51 | brlcad | good idea |
| 00:48.00 | DTRemenak | 'tis actually Tim's idea :) |
| 00:48.08 | DTRemenak | good nonetheless |
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| 00:51.05 | brlcad | they are already timestamp logged actually, via syslog as it reports there as well |
| 00:51.12 | brlcad | but then you have to hunt it down |
| 00:51.49 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 00:52.07 | brlcad | /var/log/all.log.3.bz2:Oct 31 14:12:36 bz root: xx.xx.xx.xx had 25 active connections |
| 00:52.18 | brlcad | that was the one in question |
| 00:52.32 | DTRemenak | not too long ago |
| 00:52.55 | brlcad | and 25 seems like an awefully lot of connections |
| 00:53.10 | brlcad | I don't think most browsers will even do that |
| 00:55.01 | brlcad | it's not entirely unthinkable that there are bzflag players out there with machines participating in botnets unbeknownst to them |
| 00:56.30 | brlcad | either way, the limit is now 35 .. there was only 1 IP out of a dozen that passed that limit within the past couple weeks, and they had a couple hundred connections |
| 00:57.16 | brlcad | and all the 20k blocks are removed to start fresh |
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| 01:30.43 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, shield will screw this up, just so you know |
| 01:31.02 | SportChick | JeffM2501: shield? |
| 01:31.07 | JeffM2501 | the flag |
| 01:31.19 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ahh, of course |
| 01:31.20 | JeffM2501 | the observer will compute a hit, but the real client will not report one |
| 01:31.28 | SportChick | JeffM2501: no problem |
| 01:34.17 | JeffM2501 | and I have to zero it out when you change tanks |
| 01:34.41 | SportChick | yep |
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| 01:37.22 | rr72 | i found the answer to me question |
| 01:37.32 | rr72 | the wiki is very helpful |
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| 01:37.47 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:41.45 | SportChick | ah, so you kicked him but no ban :) who IS that guy anyway? |
| 01:48.09 | JeffM2501 | some jerk |
| 01:48.25 | SportChick | :) |
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| 02:02.38 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, I don't think this is going to be very usefull for you |
| 02:02.55 | JeffM2501 | the observer usualy computes 2 hits for each shot |
| 02:03.24 | JeffM2501 | maybe I should have it track unique hits |
| 02:06.55 | SportChick | JeffM2501: hrm |
| 02:07.46 | JeffM2501 | going to try something |
| 02:08.25 | JeffM2501 | it may make it wierd of somone has a near miss but gets nailed by the rico of the same shot, but I think it'll be better overall |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (HUDRenderer.cxx Player.cxx Player.h Roaming.cxx playing.cxx): |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: track the number of unique hits for an observed tank ( by ID ) and report them in |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: the extended observer info with the number of reported hits. |
| 02:15.20 | SportChick | ~jeffm2501++ |
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| 02:17.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: 7 specials??? this beter be the last one. |
| 02:20.06 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/ |
| 02:20.10 | JeffM2501 | special 7 |
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| 02:42.30 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ty! |
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| 04:43.55 | SportChick | JeffM2501: it looks nice. may i have a quick tutorial on what each alue represents? |
| 04:45.12 | JeffM2501 | the reported is every time they die |
| 04:45.13 | JeffM2501 | for real |
| 04:45.23 | JeffM2501 | the computed is when the observer thinks they are hit |
| 04:45.29 | JeffM2501 | the last is R/C |
| 04:49.58 | SportChick | thanks |
| 05:00.31 | Flash | can someone tell me why /ban requires an IP in bzadmin, but not in bzflag? |
| 05:01.00 | tannerld | you can ban with id in bzadmin |
| 05:01.24 | Flash | I thought I tried it the other day and it didn't work |
| 05:01.34 | tannerld | should work |
| 05:01.40 | tannerld | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.44 | Flash | The man page says otherwise... |
| 05:06.50 | Flash | OK, I stand corrected. it does work |
| 05:06.56 | tannerld | :) |
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| 06:00.18 | Te | hi everyone |
| 06:00.34 | tannerld | hello |
| 06:01.14 | Te | is there anyway to make LILO dual-boot windows and linux? |
| 06:28.40 | SportChick | JeffM2501: interestingly, when I join with that client, all is fine in obs, but if I try to join as a player it immediately quits on me |
| 06:35.13 | JeffM2501 | cool |
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| 07:01.46 | SportChick | :p |
| 07:01.48 | SportChick | meanie |
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| 09:58.18 | DeepDiver | ~bzfquery paulslab.blogdns.com:5154 |
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| 12:18.51 | Pimpinella | as there?s no optoin for bzfs to make it run in background, i suspect that there?s a reason we don?t have that yet? |
| 12:49.03 | Manu | Pimpinella: in linux you can: bzfs & to run it in the background, but I guess you knowwww it |
| 12:58.06 | Pimpinella | heard of it once ;) |
| 12:58.55 | Manu | then what are you asking really? ;) |
| 13:01.28 | Pimpinella | i was asking if there?s a reason why we dno?t have an option that makes bzfs run in background |
| 13:02.05 | Manu | I gues it's because nobody have added it ;) |
| 13:04.27 | Pimpinella | possibly. maybe somebody just doesn?t want it though...for portability reasons or whatever |
| 13:06.39 | Manu | I can't find a reason for it |
| 13:07.01 | Pimpinella | i could (and probably would) add it, but only for unix i think. though i?m sure it?s possible for windows too i have no idea how to implement it |
| 13:08.06 | Manu | really I can't find the utility in linux :/ |
| 13:08.37 | Manu | why do you think is needed this option? |
| 13:09.00 | Manu | you don't need it to put a program in trhe background |
| 13:09.04 | Chestal | it could be nice if it could daemonize itself, e.g. for init scripts |
| 13:09.19 | Manu | yes |
| 13:09.21 | Chestal | just backgrounding in the shell does not do the same |
| 13:10.03 | Manu | of course |
| 13:10.31 | Manu | and I don't know if all the linux versions manage the daemons in the same way, I guess no |
| 13:10.42 | Manu | distros I mean |
| 13:16.34 | razeryan | hi manu! |
| 13:16.49 | Manu | hi razeryan |
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| 13:47.08 | Pimpinella | i run bzfs from init scripts and the way i have solved it now jst looks ugly ;) |
| 13:52.29 | Manu | hehe |
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| 14:38.12 | master_tux | hello |
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| 14:56.15 | SportChick | hi Pogovina |
| 15:04.53 | Pogovina | Hi Sportchick |
| 15:05.22 | SportChick | how are you? |
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| 15:05.56 | Pogovina | I'm ok. Sorry it took me a minute to answer. I was looking for a channel to call my own, didn't wanna be in here all the time imposing and stuff |
| 15:06.03 | Pogovina | how are you? |
| 15:06.22 | SportChick | Pogovina: you are more than welcome to join ##essy |
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| 16:27.59 | A_Heart_Attack | so..... silent |
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| 16:30.27 | A_Heart_Attack | hey cods_ |
| 16:30.34 | A_Heart_Attack | hey cods |
| 16:34.39 | cods | hi |
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| 17:26.10 | tupone | Manu: http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=3042393408956223205 |
| 17:27.40 | Manu | watching it |
| 17:28.25 | tupone | :) |
| 17:29.20 | tupone | actress and director is actually a friend in our network |
| 17:29.34 | Manu | ah |
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| 17:57.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Roaming.cxx: avoid crash when not tracking anyone |
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| 18:28.40 | A_Heart_Attack | hey Jeff |
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| 18:30.38 | JeffM2501 | hi |
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| 19:03.32 | JeffM2501 | did someone fix the crash with my roaming stuff? |
| 19:05.10 | Theme97 | <CIA-3> BZFlag: chestal v2_0branch * bzflag/src/bzflag/Roaming.cxx: avoid crash when not tracking anyone |
| 19:05.13 | JeffM2501 | ahh chestal did, good man :) |
| 19:05.14 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 19:05.26 | JeffM2501 | I was just too tired last night to fix it :) |
| 19:05.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: check for nulls before we set the new hit counters |
| 19:12.43 | ts | sigh...having conflicts when merging :/ |
| 19:18.23 | JeffM2501 | what changed in head? |
| 19:27.27 | Chestal | what are those shot info times displayed? |
| 19:27.50 | Chestal | 'Time:' looks like time since last shot fired |
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| 19:30.51 | Linuxx0r | 'cvs diff -N -u -r tag_name > patch1.patch' <- what do i set for tag_name to create the patch? |
| 19:37.39 | SportChick | Chestal: I think that is to help detect someone using "fast" reload |
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| 19:41.21 | ts | Anyway that would be just ludicrous without having documented, what it really does |
| 19:43.05 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, the binary I uploaded has been updaed. |
| 19:43.28 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, it's the time between the last 2 shots |
| 19:43.43 | JeffM2501 | I don't know if it's usefull in it's present form |
| 19:43.48 | JeffM2501 | a full shot history would be good |
| 19:44.18 | JeffM2501 | and thank you for fixing my bug Chestal :) |
| 19:44.26 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ok, do I need to re-d/l the whole thing or just .ext? |
| 19:44.29 | SportChick | err .exe* |
| 19:44.36 | JeffM2501 | I just remade the installer |
| 19:44.38 | JeffM2501 | do entire thing |
| 19:44.47 | JeffM2501 | less confusing that way |
| 19:45.11 | JeffM2501 | aww man, OSX aliases arn't symlinks :( |
| 19:45.13 | JeffM2501 | that blows |
| 19:46.30 | SportChick | JeffM2501: aw, ok |
| 19:46.54 | JeffM2501 | it's only 9 megs |
| 19:47.06 | SportChick | JeffM2501: still *.9s7? |
| 19:47.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:47.16 | JeffM2501 | I just replaced it |
| 19:47.20 | SportChick | yes, it's not that, jeff - I have certain data files I have to remember to replace once I'm done |
| 19:47.25 | SportChick | otherwise, it messes me up |
| 19:48.47 | JeffM2501 | make a copy of those data files in a folder |
| 19:48.54 | JeffM2501 | in the dir structure that they should be in |
| 19:48.59 | JeffM2501 | then just keep them somewhere |
| 19:49.08 | JeffM2501 | and when you install a new one, copy them, into the new install |
| 19:49.11 | JeffM2501 | it will merge the data |
| 19:49.15 | SportChick | ah, good idea |
| 19:49.26 | JeffM2501 | I do that for all the release DLLs for the windows builds |
| 19:49.35 | SportChick | of course, I have to still copy over the extra stuff I hide in my bzflag files folder, and add -echo to the target |
| 19:49.37 | JeffM2501 | so I can just drag a copy in whenever |
| 19:50.09 | JeffM2501 | your other option is to get mozul to install a compiler on your machien for ya ;) |
| 19:51.17 | SportChick | hehe |
| 19:51.22 | SportChick | no, i'm happy this way, thanks :D |
| 19:53.47 | JeffM2501 | I'd build a mac version if I could get cvs to work on this stupid machine |
| 20:08.32 | JeffM2501 | this is correct right? |
| 20:08.35 | JeffM2501 | cvs -z3 -d:ext:jeffm2501@bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 20:12.12 | Linuxx0r | JeffM2501, I've created the patch. You can find it here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1590967&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 20:16.11 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 20:16.13 | blast007 | JeffM2501: yeah, that should work |
| 20:16.36 | blast007 | does it just sit there? |
| 20:16.45 | JeffM2501 | it wanted me to do the yes/no thing and it dosn't like to do that in cvs, so I had to ssh in manual once |
| 20:16.53 | blast007 | ah |
| 20:16.57 | blast007 | strange :) |
| 20:17.07 | JeffM2501 | it is a mac, so what do you exect |
| 20:18.26 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:21.54 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you around? I'm geting a "bzflag-info.plist" dosn't exist when I build with xcode, I know I've seen that problem before, but I can't remember the solution. |
| 20:50.08 | ts | It looks like there is a lot modified WS in that particular patch, I think those are not correct. Haven't looked into the server checks yet. |
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| 22:26.59 | JeffM2501 | OSX come with anything to compress a dir? |
| 22:29.45 | PuMpErNiCkLe | tar/bzip2? |
| 22:30.34 | JeffM2501 | as a clicky thing? |
| 22:36.42 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Not sure... I remember using stuffit, but I don't remember if it's included. |
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| 22:38.45 | JeffM2501 | it has expander |
| 22:38.55 | JeffM2501 | I just made a dmg, and called it engouh :) |
| 22:39.15 | JeffM2501 | Flash, a mac ppc build is up with the observer info if you want it. |
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| 22:47.42 | Flash | JeffM2501: yes please, where? |
| 22:48.04 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/ |
| 22:49.08 | Flash | os 10.3 or 10.4? |
| 22:49.20 | A_Heart_Attack | heh |
| 22:49.21 | A_Heart_Attack | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334783 |
| 22:49.24 | A_Heart_Attack | good game |
| 22:50.35 | JeffM2501 | I made it on 10.4 |
| 22:50.41 | JeffM2501 | but it may work on 10.3 |
| 22:52.14 | Flash | we shall see.... |
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| 22:53.39 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it won't run on 10.2 |
| 22:54.05 | shorty114 | JeffM2501: stuffit used to be included, but no |
| 22:54.13 | SpazzyMcGee | JeffM: you can compress to a zip by ctrl-click then selecting "Archive" |
| 22:54.17 | shorty114 | oooh |
| 22:54.19 | JeffM2501 | only expander is, not stuffing |
| 22:54.41 | JeffM2501 | I have no right click item called that |
| 22:54.55 | shorty114 | control click |
| 22:54.57 | SpazzyMcGee | ctrl-click and choose "Create archive of ...." |
| 22:54.59 | shorty114 | Create Archive of "..." |
| 22:55.09 | shorty114 | you are using tiger, right? |
| 22:55.13 | JeffM2501 | ahh I see it |
| 22:55.21 | SpazzyMcGee | makes a .zip |
| 22:55.21 | JeffM2501 | a zip file, how lame is that |
| 22:55.26 | Flash | no, it doesn't run on 10.3 |
| 22:55.28 | Flash | dyld: /Applications/Games/BZFlag-2.0.9s7.app/Contents/MacOS/BZFlag can't open library: /usr/lib/libcurl.3.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) |
| 22:55.30 | JeffM2501 | next you'll be booting windows |
| 22:55.46 | DTRemenak | zip files are at least universally openable |
| 22:55.49 | JeffM2501 | oh well, that is all I can make |
| 22:55.50 | SpazzyMcGee | oh wait. boot camp. |
| 22:55.58 | JeffM2501 | can zips hold resource forks? |
| 22:56.17 | Flash | OS X doesn't have resource forks... ?? |
| 22:56.23 | JeffM2501 | sure it does |
| 22:56.29 | JeffM2501 | for any classic app or file |
| 22:56.30 | SpazzyMcGee | no i don't believe it does |
| 22:56.36 | SpazzyMcGee | only for classic |
| 22:56.42 | JeffM2501 | just because it's not making new ones, dosn't mean it dosn't have to support them |
| 22:56.46 | SpazzyMcGee | and who uses classic? |
| 22:56.52 | JeffM2501 | a number of people |
| 22:56.52 | Flash | well, for classic they hacked around it with associated files |
| 22:57.00 | JeffM2501 | like I said, lame ;) |
| 22:57.08 | JeffM2501 | but that's better then making a dmg |
| 22:57.15 | JeffM2501 | tho I'll probalby keep making a dmg |
| 22:57.22 | JeffM2501 | that way windows people dont download it |
| 22:57.25 | Flash | Truthfully, it doesn't *have* resource forks; rather it emulates them |
| 22:57.45 | SpazzyMcGee | but that's all classic is. |
| 22:57.49 | Flash | but that's probably splitting too fine a hair |
| 22:58.25 | SpazzyMcGee | I haven't booted classic for several months. |
| 22:58.28 | JeffM2501 | looks like you don't have libcurl 3 |
| 22:58.34 | JeffM2501 | and I didn't pack it in |
| 22:58.44 | JeffM2501 | you may be able to just get the library and be good |
| 22:59.05 | JeffM2501 | or I can try again when brlcad can help me get xcode setup |
| 23:01.13 | SpazzyMcGee | bye |
| 23:02.38 | Flash | I did a 'find' for libcurl (it's still running), but I found this: |
| 23:02.39 | Flash | /Applications/Games/BZFlag-2.0.4.app/Contents/Frameworks/libcurl.framework/libcurl |
| 23:03.51 | JeffM2501 | the error told you what it was looking for |
| 23:04.11 | Flash | I also tried to download it, and I got a .rpm that wanted to open Windows Media Player (or was it RealPlayer?) |
| 23:04.23 | JeffM2501 | RPM |
| 23:04.30 | JeffM2501 | that's for redhat linux like distros |
| 23:04.49 | Flash | Well, it was under a Mac OS X section. Who knows? |
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| 23:05.30 | Flash | picking a different link... |
| 23:05.39 | JeffM2501 | read them before you pick them ;) |
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| 23:06.01 | Flash | "Mac OS X PPC RPM" |
| 23:06.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah that would be the wrong one |
| 23:06.28 | me1 | if bzflag seg faults where does the core go? |
| 23:26.24 | JeffM2501 | Flash, why are you still using such an old OS? |
| 23:26.55 | Flash | JeffM2501: because I have an old computer ;-) |
| 23:27.11 | JeffM2501 | what mac is it? |
| 23:27.18 | Flash | 17" G4 laptop |
| 23:27.26 | JeffM2501 | should run 10.4 just fine |
| 23:27.54 | Flash | I want to get an Intel 17" laptop, but I have one kid in college, one in private school, and a new house for college kid to live in |
| 23:27.58 | Flash | I'm feeling poor |
| 23:28.35 | JeffM2501 | well IIRC we will still do 10.3 compatable builds for 2.2 |
| 23:28.41 | JeffM2501 | I know we are droping 10.2 |
| 23:29.02 | Flash | I'm starting to feel the pain of being on the trailing edge of OS support |
| 23:29.17 | JeffM2501 | it ain't gonna get any better ;) |
| 23:36.07 | shorty114 | i remember 10.2 |
| 23:36.13 | shorty114 | and then i thank god for 10.4 ;) |
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| 23:57.51 | trepan | how's this for moving the buttons outside of the minimap (they'll only appear while the cursor is within the minimap) |
| 23:57.54 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/spring/minimap_buttons.jpg |
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| 23:58.41 | trepan | ~ww |
| 23:58.43 | ibot | Get a better IRC client |
| 23:58.49 | trepan | bite me |
| 23:59.07 | CBG | Wow, Bz2.1 looks... different! :P |
| 23:59.23 | me1 | what is different about it? |
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