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| 00:07.00 | ryanakca | why do I get this when I run the command 'bzflag'? |
| 00:07.03 | ryanakca | ryan@rkavanagh:~$ bzflag |
| 00:07.04 | ryanakca | libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b |
| 00:07.06 | ryanakca | Segmentation fault |
| 00:09.35 | spldart | Ooop.. his irc client segfaulted too |
| 00:09.58 | Theme97 | So... nowadays, nobody stays longer than 2 minutes for an answer? |
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| 01:12.59 | spldart | bzfx.net:6026... I got autokicked for moving to fast. I'm using the same old client. ??? |
| 01:16.15 | L4m3r | it happens |
| 01:16.17 | L4m3r | rarely |
| 01:16.35 | spldart | new on me hrm.. k |
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| 01:33.37 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
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| 01:46.10 | The_Interigator | hi everyone |
| 01:46.21 | blast007 | hello |
| 01:46.41 | The_Interigator | this is my first time using linux, it rocks |
| 01:46.48 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:47.02 | Thumper_ | spldart: re: moving too fast - was there a teleporter involved? |
| 01:48.35 | The_Interigator | which desktop enviroment is more popular, KDE or Gnome? |
| 01:48.54 | Thumper_ | The_Interigator: the one that you like better is more popular |
| 01:49.22 | blast007 | The_Interigator: really doesn't matter, both work good |
| 01:49.31 | The_Interigator | i havent tried any of them, is there more then 2? |
| 01:49.39 | blast007 | oh yeah, there is way more than 2 |
| 01:49.52 | blast007 | but those are common |
| 01:50.04 | Thumper_ | if you like big, bloated, and slow :) |
| 01:50.09 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:50.21 | The_Interigator | blast007, which do you use? |
| 01:50.25 | blast007 | bash |
| 01:50.32 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:50.34 | blast007 | as in, no GUI |
| 01:50.48 | blast007 | I only run terminal on my linux systems thus far |
| 01:51.10 | The_Interigator | im using bash right now and its kinda boring |
| 01:51.11 | blast007 | one is a 133MHz system that doesn't run so great with a GUI, the other is a server box, that doesn't need one |
| 01:51.25 | blast007 | I still need to put linux on my new system |
| 01:51.33 | spldart | Thumper: No... No teleporting... I don't believe there is one on laserboxy |
| 01:51.36 | blast007 | but I'll probably do KDE |
| 01:51.46 | blast007 | spldart: thief flag? |
| 01:51.50 | Thumper_ | spldart: didn't think so unless he changed the map (haven't loooked) |
| 01:51.52 | The_Interigator | i'll try that |
| 01:52.02 | spldart | gnome is the most bloated I used... most of the time I use fluxbox |
| 01:52.07 | blast007 | The_Interigator: what distro you using? |
| 01:52.11 | blast007 | yeah, fluxbox is nice |
| 01:52.12 | The_Interigator | telnet hurts my eyes |
| 01:52.18 | Thumper_ | fluxbox is mine too - and emacs :) |
| 01:52.21 | Thumper_ | emacs is a system! :) |
| 01:52.24 | The_Interigator | slackware |
| 01:52.27 | blast007 | I ran that on my 133 system for a while |
| 01:52.34 | blast007 | The_Interigator: yay for slackware ;D |
| 01:52.37 | blast007 | I run that too |
| 01:52.45 | blast007 | still at 10.2 on my systems |
| 01:52.48 | The_Interigator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.04 | spldart | gnome is good for work cuz It passes easily by the bosses as something close enough to windows |
| 01:53.21 | Thumper_ | spldart: get a better boss |
| 01:53.24 | spldart | LOLOL |
| 01:53.29 | spldart | I wish |
| 01:53.38 | spldart | He has me coming in tomorrow so I'm not very happy |
| 01:53.39 | blast007 | I usually think of gnome as more like Mac OS, at least the default look I've seen |
| 01:53.53 | blast007 | (Ubuntu) |
| 01:53.57 | Thumper_ | I use gdm from gnome...and that's it |
| 01:54.07 | The_Interigator | what irc client can I use in bash that will make it easier to read the messages? |
| 01:54.09 | spldart | Ubuntu is a nice pre packaged distro :) |
| 01:54.34 | blast007 | The_Interigator: what are you using now? |
| 01:54.44 | The_Interigator | telnet |
| 01:54.51 | blast007 | oh, heh, that's what you meant |
| 01:54.53 | blast007 | try irssi |
| 01:55.52 | blast007 | and just a note that slackware doesn't track dependencies |
| 01:56.10 | The_Interigator | what are dependencies? |
| 01:56.15 | Thumper_ | are upgrades on slackware any better than 10 years ago? |
| 01:56.25 | blast007 | things that one piece of software needs to run |
| 01:56.43 | blast007 | like irssi requires perl to run |
| 01:56.48 | spldart | I remember getting BURNED by all the dependency issues to be worked around way back when in some distro's :( |
| 01:56.52 | blast007 | and perl might require other stuff |
| 01:57.01 | The_Interigator | if you mean I have to download the libraries, i have no problem with that |
| 01:57.06 | blast007 | k |
| 01:57.22 | blast007 | The_Interigator: I'd also recommend installing slackpkg |
| 01:57.22 | The_Interigator | luckly enough, I have perl :) |
| 01:57.33 | blast007 | makes it easier to install stuff |
| 01:57.39 | blast007 | cuz it can download it for you |
| 01:57.44 | blast007 | and find updates |
| 01:58.14 | blast007 | also, linuxpackages.net has a ton of slackware packages that aren't in the standard distro |
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| 01:58.25 | blast007 | not sure about their slackware 11 packages though |
| 01:58.47 | The_Interigator | i'll look around |
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| 02:41.55 | rr72 | anyone use ubuntu in here? |
| 02:42.10 | tannerld | yep |
| 02:43.50 | rr72 | tannerld~ u apt-get install bzflag-server? |
| 02:44.06 | tannerld | rr72: I compiled from the source; the repos are a bit out of date |
| 02:44.14 | rr72 | hm |
| 02:44.27 | rr72 | well i wanted to know how to start the server from cmd |
| 02:44.48 | tannerld | you've got bzfs installed yep? |
| 02:44.59 | rr72 | oh that one? |
| 02:45.09 | rr72 | i see plenty of BZ files |
| 02:45.19 | rr72 | thx |
| 02:45.26 | tannerld | heh :) |
| 02:45.33 | rr72 | all those bzdiff |
| 02:45.35 | rr72 | bzmore |
| 02:46.34 | tannerld | hmm |
| 02:46.37 | tannerld | never heard of those :\ |
| 02:46.48 | rr72 | bzless |
| 02:47.18 | rr72 | bzgrep,bzip2,bzcat |
| 02:48.09 | tannerld | oh |
| 02:48.12 | tannerld | look for bzflag |
| 02:48.31 | rr72 | i got it |
| 02:48.38 | rr72 | it was hidden under bzfs |
| 02:48.44 | rr72 | i thought it was BZ file system |
| 02:48.49 | tannerld | heh |
| 02:51.29 | purple_cow | we're gonna have trouble if someone actually implements the bzip file system |
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| 03:20.57 | rr72 | tannerld~ do you suggest source over repo? |
| 03:21.09 | tannerld | its a bit later versions |
| 03:21.14 | tannerld | last time I checked there was 2.0.6 in there |
| 03:21.18 | tannerld | current is 2.0.8 |
| 03:21.34 | rr72 | i thought it was 2.0.8 |
| 03:21.59 | tannerld | idk |
| 03:22.09 | rr72 | the logo says 2.0.8 |
| 03:23.12 | tannerld | I stand corrected |
| 03:23.18 | tannerld | it seems the repos are updated :P |
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| 04:10.47 | rr72 | is there any way to tilt the terut up and down or no? |
| 04:24.39 | rr72 | can i /msg someone? |
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| 04:34.45 | spldart | geeezz |
| 04:34.57 | spldart | another segfaulter ;) |
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| 04:54.35 | spldart | No.. the turret don't go up down |
| 04:54.38 | rr72 | what ports do i need to forward to serv bzflag? |
| 04:54.39 | spldart | :~( |
| 04:55.13 | spldart | I've always just had to forward the one port udp tcp on my router to my server |
| 04:55.36 | L4m3r | whichever ones you'd like to serve from. Default is 5154. Make sure to open TCP and UDP. |
| 04:56.07 | spldart | In my case though, between 5153 to 5157 cuz of varying instance counts of bzfs |
| 04:56.44 | rr72 | just one prot works for me too |
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| 06:03.49 | KyleH | I was given this tip for a debian install: < ruskie> well rebuilt libx11 without xcb support and bzflag now works again |
| 06:05.10 | KyleH | anyone here use Debian and understand how to make bzflag work without the -geometry and -window option? |
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| 09:54.41 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || Condolences to lilo's friends, family, the PDPC, and the Freenode network at large for his passing. Rest in peace, lilo, during your final /part. |
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| 10:15.20 | Birdie | can some bzbb admin remove the shakira spam? |
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| 12:29.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/ (11 files in 6 dirs): Introducing a new packetloss kick |
| 12:32.54 | ruskie | O.o |
| 12:33.09 | ruskie | packetloss kick... hope it won't be kicking me all the time... |
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| 13:52.53 | The_Interigator | hi everyone |
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| 15:04.42 | LePoulpe303 | hi, bzworld |
| 15:04.47 | A_Heart_Attack | hi |
| 15:04.48 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 15:05.29 | LePoulpe303 | hey A_Heart_Attack |
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| 16:00.43 | A_Heart_Attack | hey |
| 16:00.51 | spldart | ? |
| 16:00.56 | A_Heart_Attack | ? |
| 16:00.59 | CBG | ? |
| 16:06.17 | findlay | ? |
| 16:06.57 | findlay | ~? |
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| 17:45.25 | rr72 | there any live cds that contain bzfkag? |
| 17:45.28 | rr72 | *bzfkag |
| 17:45.34 | rr72 | *bzflag |
| 17:46.11 | tannerld | I don't know |
| 17:46.14 | ruskie | afaik there is one... |
| 17:46.19 | ruskie | though it has an older version |
| 17:46.31 | ruskie | it's a gameing livecd |
| 17:46.40 | ruskie | not sure where to find it... just google for it... |
| 17:46.44 | ruskie | it has other games as well... |
| 17:46.55 | rr72 | i think i have the iso |
| 17:47.00 | rr72 | i have otns of isos |
| 17:47.17 | rr72 | maybe DSL has a module for it |
| 17:47.31 | rr72 | that would be good, just bring a couple of those to a lan party |
| 17:47.48 | ruskie | I meant the livecd was gaming specific :) |
| 17:47.49 | ruskie | it had tons of other games and emulators on it... |
| 17:48.21 | ruskie | amazing how many good Free/Open games one can stuff on a single cd compared to khm khm windows games... |
| 17:55.41 | rr72 | ruskie~ i know, i have that iso i think |
| 17:56.17 | rr72 | i have a lot of live cds |
| 17:56.24 | rr72 | prolly out of date |
| 18:01.07 | codergeek42 | IIRC knoppix comes with bzflag |
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| 18:02.27 | rr72 | cool |
| 18:04.55 | rr72 | is there an example bzfs config file? |
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| 18:16.12 | rr72 | how does one login as administrator to the server? |
| 18:16.29 | Deepa | /identify? |
| 18:16.33 | Deepa | /password? |
| 18:16.50 | JeffM2501 | depends on how the server is setup |
| 18:17.01 | JeffM2501 | if the config has -password then /password |
| 18:17.10 | JeffM2501 | if it's got a groupdb then global ID |
| 18:17.16 | rr72 | how do i get to use / commands in the game? |
| 18:17.25 | rr72 | JeffM2501~ ur talking jibberish to me |
| 18:17.33 | JeffM2501 | rr72, is it your server? |
| 18:17.51 | rr72 | yes |
| 18:18.05 | rr72 | im looking for a good site on config files ATM |
| 18:18.09 | JeffM2501 | how did you start it? from the command line or with the in game menu? |
| 18:18.15 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 18:18.27 | JeffM2501 | well then just put the command -password <YOURPASS> in the config |
| 18:18.29 | JeffM2501 | then in game |
| 18:18.30 | JeffM2501 | hit N |
| 18:18.32 | rr72 | in game for now untill i get my server config file up |
| 18:18.36 | JeffM2501 | then /password <YOURPASS> |
| 18:18.42 | JeffM2501 | and that will ID you as admin |
| 18:18.45 | rr72 | ok ool |
| 18:19.01 | rr72 | and i will make more than one config file for different stuff |
| 18:19.17 | JeffM2501 | the in-game server start dosn't alow you to specify a password so you can't do admin stuff on servers started with it. |
| 18:19.49 | rr72 | l@m3 |
| 18:20.08 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 18:20.13 | rr72 | damn amarok screwed my keyboard up |
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| 18:39.25 | biffiford | hi |
| 18:42.02 | tannerld | hello |
| 18:42.24 | biffiford | anyone here familiar with the mac intel build? |
| 18:44.54 | JeffM2501 | what about it? |
| 18:44.59 | JeffM2501 | it's not an offical build |
| 18:45.37 | biffiford | I know. should I contact the developer who built it? |
| 18:45.54 | JeffM2501 | no developer made it, it was just some guy |
| 18:45.55 | biffiford | I'm not able to connect to any servers (just says "Trying...") |
| 18:46.05 | JeffM2501 | send him a PM on the fourms |
| 18:50.50 | rr72 | someone should make an example config |
| 18:51.00 | blast007 | rr72: there is one |
| 18:51.07 | rr72 | where? |
| 18:51.17 | rr72 | all commented with nice explenations? |
| 18:51.30 | blast007 | can't recall if it's included with the binary stuff, but I know it's in the source tar |
| 18:51.36 | blast007 | in the misc/ directory |
| 18:52.17 | JeffM2501 | it's not included with the windows binary |
| 18:52.21 | JeffM2501 | tho I should do that |
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| 18:54.25 | [NP]Tangent | hey Jeff, just in case you might be interested |
| 18:54.34 | [NP]Tangent | I had a new flag idea. put it in the wiki page just now. |
| 18:54.36 | [NP]Tangent | DeFender |
| 18:54.40 | rr72 | blast007~ i used a repo |
| 18:54.47 | rr72 | i didnt compile it |
| 18:54.53 | blast007 | right |
| 18:54.58 | rr72 | and i searched for one but didnt find it |
| 18:55.15 | blast007 | get the source then |
| 18:55.32 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, umm ok |
| 18:55.38 | blast007 | ah, actually the webCVS is up again |
| 18:55.43 | [NP]Tangent | bzflag seems to perform better compiled, rr72 |
| 18:55.47 | [NP]Tangent | at least on here it does |
| 18:56.09 | blast007 | http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/misc/ |
| 18:56.17 | blast007 | look for bzfs.conf in there |
| 18:56.25 | rr72 | cool ty |
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| 18:57.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: install sample config with bzfs |
| 18:57.51 | tannerld | heh |
| 18:58.04 | rr72 | ?? |
| 19:00.12 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, seems like it would be rather hard to shoot a moving shot, also it would be technically difficult with all the game states out of sync. |
| 19:00.29 | [NP]Tangent | true |
| 19:00.42 | JeffM2501 | why not just shoot the shooter :) |
| 19:00.48 | JeffM2501 | or use shield |
| 19:00.56 | [NP]Tangent | that's a fair point |
| 19:01.12 | [NP]Tangent | I mean, the Defender flag idea is cool, but the whole networked thing kind of throws it off |
| 19:01.25 | [NP]Tangent | maybe it would be a cool thing on a LAN game, but not so practical over the internet |
| 19:01.31 | JeffM2501 | if we had splash damage, and you could make it project out like a 1/4 SW that just blocked shots, that'd not be a bad idea |
| 19:02.03 | biffiford | hmmm. so what would happen if a server gave users different maps? |
| 19:02.24 | [NP]Tangent | so maybe like, it has a range of 1/4 or 1/5 the normal shot range, kinda like MG, and then projects a small shot-blocking sw |
| 19:02.32 | JeffM2501 | biffiford, bad things |
| 19:02.42 | [NP]Tangent | that sounds cool |
| 19:02.48 | JeffM2501 | you'd see people just randomly dying |
| 19:03.05 | biffiford | like the server has 3 pre-made maps of the same size. a user connecting would get one of those 3 maps |
| 19:03.24 | JeffM2501 | the shot rickos wouldn't be the same on each persons machine |
| 19:03.32 | JeffM2501 | and they would seem to just blow up with no shot near them |
| 19:03.41 | biffiford | JeffM2501: why would they die randomly? because the shooter sees his bullet ricochet but the victim gets hit by it in his world? |
| 19:03.52 | JeffM2501 | it would bounce difrently |
| 19:03.55 | JeffM2501 | so yes |
| 19:04.02 | JeffM2501 | or be blocked |
| 19:04.10 | JeffM2501 | also shooting someone woudl be frustrating |
| 19:04.20 | JeffM2501 | cus they may be blocked by an object on there map that you can't see |
| 19:04.21 | biffiford | yeah. like the Olympics server where bullets below 50 are harmless to others |
| 19:04.29 | JeffM2501 | also youd drive thru stuff on ther emaps |
| 19:04.34 | biffiford | yeah |
| 19:04.36 | JeffM2501 | basicly it look like everyone was cheating |
| 19:04.45 | biffiford | you're just making it sound more interesting to me :P |
| 19:05.01 | JeffM2501 | I guess it would be fun for a munchkin for like an hour |
| 19:05.15 | biffiford | then it would just be annoying |
| 19:05.39 | JeffM2501 | you'd also have to mod the server to compute spawns on each map |
| 19:05.51 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff, I'm going to rewrite my idea on wiki |
| 19:05.51 | JeffM2501 | so you'd have to load all the maps server side, and then track who has what map |
| 19:06.01 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, have fun |
| 19:06.13 | biffiford | can people spawn in the air? |
| 19:06.18 | JeffM2501 | just remember that bzflag is a simple games, shots kill |
| 19:06.30 | JeffM2501 | biffiford, sure, if the server or a plugin makes them do that |
| 19:06.49 | biffiford | I know. I'm not going to attempt make the mod. it's just an interesting mental exercise |
| 19:07.17 | JeffM2501 | oh that was too [NP]Tangent |
| 19:07.36 | biffiford | oh. heh |
| 19:08.23 | [NP]Tangent | there, rewritten |
| 19:08.27 | [NP]Tangent | we'll see how that goes |
| 19:08.32 | [NP]Tangent | I just thought it might be a neat idea |
| 19:08.49 | biffiford | I've made one server mod, back in the 1.8.x era, I believe. upon a tank death, the world would fire weapons from the user's position. |
| 19:09.16 | JeffM2501 | biffiford, that's one of the sandard plugins now |
| 19:09.21 | JeffM2501 | 1.8 never existed as a release |
| 19:09.24 | biffiford | really? *looks* |
| 19:09.30 | JeffM2501 | shockwavedeath |
| 19:09.53 | JeffM2501 | in fact it was like THE first plugin I wrote |
| 19:10.00 | biffiford | nice |
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| 19:11.29 | biffiford | I toyed around with a variety of weapons. for example, GMs shooting at an upward angle, SBs doing the same, normal bullets going toward the four compass directions, lasers, etc. |
| 19:11.46 | biffiford | with a ton of bots in a random world, it was like a fireworks show |
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| 19:18.00 | rr72 | ok i edited it and saved it but when i call bzfs -conf /path all i get is the help message like i just call bzfs w/o any args |
| 19:19.48 | JeffM2501 | then it means one of your edits is bad |
| 19:20.00 | JeffM2501 | read the help message, part of it will tell you what arg it didn't like |
| 19:20.31 | rr72 | how? |
| 19:20.40 | rr72 | all i see is if i type bzfs |
| 19:21.29 | rr72 | ah i see it |
| 19:21.33 | rr72 | its hiding at the top ty |
| 19:23.03 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 19:24.35 | ts | someone(tm) should make it displaying the error at a better place ;) |
| 19:24.59 | tannerld | heh |
| 19:25.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah somone should do lots of things |
| 19:25.40 | JeffM2501 | like manage the project |
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| 19:30.01 | The_Interigator | hi |
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| 19:30.42 | tannerld | hello |
| 19:31.09 | The_Interigator | I got KDE :) |
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| 19:42.05 | rr72 | there is no install file |
| 19:42.10 | rr72 | its empty |
| 19:42.25 | rr72 | do i just ./configure && make && sudo make install? |
| 19:42.48 | rr72 | will this make the server too? |
| 19:43.33 | tannerld | yep |
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| 19:59.55 | rr72 | whats no SDL mean on configure? |
| 20:02.11 | rr72 | what i don't have sound :( |
| 20:02.16 | rr72 | is that sdl? |
| 20:02.22 | rr72 | !sdl |
| 20:02.26 | rr72 | ? sdl |
| 20:02.32 | rr72 | ~sdl |
| 20:02.36 | ibot | [sdl] Simple Directmedia Layer, a cross-platform multimedia library. More information at http://www.libsdl.org/ . |
| 20:02.46 | tannerld | might be in the repos |
| 20:02.50 | tannerld | search for sdl |
| 20:03.06 | Deepa | ~gok |
| 20:03.10 | Deepa | ~gpl |
| 20:03.11 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, gpl is an awful and terrible license. you know stallman wants to do away with the LGPL entirely also |
| 20:03.18 | Deepa | ~gnu |
| 20:03.19 | ibot | hmm... gnu is an animal having a drooping beard. And it's also an antelope. |
| 20:03.24 | Deepa | ~beard |
| 20:03.33 | Deepa | ~cheddar |
| 20:03.43 | Deepa | nothing useful? |
| 20:03.50 | rr72 | ~lart @ Deepa |
| 20:04.01 | Deepa | ~lart rr72 |
| 20:07.55 | rr72 | tannerld~ make uninstall then make clean then ./configure right? |
| 20:08.27 | tannerld | you're uninstalling? |
| 20:08.55 | rr72 | i need to |
| 20:09.01 | rr72 | i need to recompile with SDL support |
| 20:09.11 | rr72 | and i need to find the package it likes |
| 20:09.17 | tannerld | umm |
| 20:09.20 | tannerld | that should work I guess |
| 20:11.04 | rr72 | got it |
| 20:11.11 | rr72 | some sdl sound pacjage |
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| 20:25.10 | rr72 | cool sound works |
| 20:25.25 | rr72 | libsdl-sound1.2-dev and the other packs that that installs |
| 20:25.26 | tannerld | :) |
| 20:25.40 | rr72 | now to do it all over again for the server |
| 20:25.59 | rr72 | (different computer) |
| 20:26.31 | tannerld | :) |
| 20:26.35 | TimRiker | where's the banlist for my.bzflag.org these days? |
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| 20:41.11 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: what part? the bb? list server? firewall? |
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| 21:01.48 | TimRiker | firewall it looks like. |
| 21:02.11 | TimRiker | I got an email from someone and I can't ping his IP from my.bzflag.org (access denied) |
| 21:20.03 | [NP]Tangent | k, this might be a stupid question, but... if you make a meshbox drive through, can you still jump up through it and land on top of it? |
| 21:20.41 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:21.07 | JeffM2501 | drivethru turns off all colisions on it |
| 21:21.13 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
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| 21:21.16 | JeffM2501 | make a thin box inside, that is not drive thru |
| 21:21.18 | JeffM2501 | then you'll land on that |
| 21:21.33 | JeffM2501 | basicly a super thin "roof" |
| 21:22.27 | [NP]Tangent | so what I'm trying to do is have like an elevator with a physics driver, but obviously you need to land somewhere at the top |
| 21:23.01 | [NP]Tangent | could I put a solid box at the top (above where they should land) that has a physics driver that moves them away from the hole? |
| 21:23.19 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:23.23 | JeffM2501 | you need to pass thru then land |
| 21:23.24 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 21:23.38 | JeffM2501 | you may be able to do that with a single mesh face |
| 21:23.44 | JeffM2501 | not a full box |
| 21:23.46 | [NP]Tangent | I know it's been done. it's on Boxy War and on Lamer's Compound |
| 21:23.48 | JeffM2501 | just make it point up |
| 21:23.55 | JeffM2501 | the normals I mean |
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| 21:32.09 | [NP]Tangent | k, so Jeff. I've never really used any mesh other than meshbox and arc before |
| 21:32.14 | [NP]Tangent | what exactly are the "normals" |
| 21:32.27 | [NP]Tangent | I see they have a purpose in the manual, I just can't figure out what exactly it is |
| 21:36.19 | [NP]Tangent | oh, and team numbers are red-1 green-2 blue-3 and purple-4 right? |
| 21:46.02 | rr72 | u can dl more maps right? |
| 21:46.18 | biffiford_ | ... |
| 21:48.02 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, they represent what side of the face is visable |
| 21:48.52 | rr72 | JeffM2501~ i can dl more maps right? |
| 21:49.20 | ts | How do I get a .6 file from a .6.in file? |
| 21:49.32 | ts | autogen or configure? |
| 21:49.32 | rr72 | i know i can make my own but im too lazy |
| 21:49.43 | rr72 | and not very artistic |
| 21:53.09 | ts | nm, found out by myself |
| 21:55.21 | rr72 | how do u register a user? |
| 21:57.33 | ts | rr72: register where? irc or nick for use in-game? |
| 21:57.56 | rr72 | hm |
| 21:57.59 | rr72 | nvm |
| 22:00.51 | JeffM2501 | rr72, sure youc an |
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| 22:02.08 | ts | hmm..slow CIA |
| 22:02.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03t-s * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: Update man pages for new packetloss kick ability |
| 22:02.19 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
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| 22:04.54 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 22:04.56 | rr72 | JeffM2501~ is it ingame or do i have to do it server side? |
| 22:05.02 | [NP]Tangent | A_Heart_Attack, you're still a Helper on my server, it seems |
| 22:05.03 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 22:05.04 | JeffM2501 | server side |
| 22:05.11 | JeffM2501 | you can't change maps while the server is runing |
| 22:05.24 | A_Heart_Attack | [NP]Tangent: :p |
| 22:05.25 | rr72 | not maps |
| 22:05.26 | JeffM2501 | you have to stop the server, modify your config to use a new map, and restart the server |
| 22:05.30 | rr72 | oh that |
| 22:05.30 | rr72 | yea |
| 22:05.46 | rr72 | im going to test the maps first tho |
| 22:05.51 | rr72 | i was asking about registering |
| 22:05.58 | [NP]Tangent | AHA: in a map, the teams are (1) Red, (2) Green, (3) Blue, and (4) Purple, right? |
| 22:06.09 | JeffM2501 | oh registering |
| 22:06.11 | rr72 | if that was client or server side |
| 22:06.13 | JeffM2501 | is your server public? |
| 22:06.25 | rr72 | not on the list |
| 22:06.35 | rr72 | no -public line in the file |
| 22:06.44 | JeffM2501 | then you have to provide the server with a userdb and passdb file |
| 22:06.51 | JeffM2501 | then users register in game with /identify |
| 22:07.00 | JeffM2501 | but that's not a good way |
| 22:07.04 | rr72 | ?? |
| 22:07.07 | JeffM2501 | it's better to use the global login system |
| 22:07.28 | JeffM2501 | for private servers you don't need to realy reg users tho |
| 22:07.30 | ts | you can have global login and no visible server to others via using -public and -advertize none |
| 22:07.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:07.45 | JeffM2501 | but realy, what need to you have for registered users? |
| 22:07.59 | A_Heart_Attack | [NP]Tangent: yes |
| 22:08.00 | ts | that way you only need a userdb and then you're automatically identified |
| 22:08.11 | JeffM2501 | ts, you don't need a userdb |
| 22:08.20 | JeffM2501 | unless your doing perms |
| 22:08.29 | ts | JeffM2501: yes, but it's easier when doing perms |
| 22:08.37 | JeffM2501 | yes, when doing perms |
| 22:08.47 | JeffM2501 | or a global group |
| 22:08.50 | JeffM2501 | and a groupdb |
| 22:09.04 | rr72 | i thought i needed to hacve users reg, ok less work for me to do now |
| 22:09.10 | JeffM2501 | no you don'tt |
| 22:09.23 | JeffM2501 | not unless you want to give specific users special permisions |
| 22:09.35 | rr72 | what special permisisiona re there? |
| 22:09.43 | JeffM2501 | a bunch |
| 22:09.48 | JeffM2501 | read the bzfs manual |
| 22:10.18 | rr72 | ugh, its so long |
| 22:10.27 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 22:10.27 | DTRemenak | there are lots of permissions |
| 22:10.35 | rr72 | what sections? |
| 22:10.40 | rr72 | *section |
| 22:10.45 | JeffM2501 | if your going to be a server owner, you should know what the server can do |
| 22:11.11 | JeffM2501 | if your not public it dosn't realy mater tho |
| 22:11.16 | rr72 | only for private |
| 22:11.17 | rr72 | lol |
| 22:11.27 | JeffM2501 | then your the only admin, so who cares about permisions |
| 22:11.32 | JeffM2501 | as admin you get them all |
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| 22:12.25 | rr72 | obvsaily |
| 22:13.15 | rr72 | thers only around 40 perms |
| 22:13.56 | rr72 | thers no special dir the game looks for maps is there? |
| 22:14.11 | rr72 | for the bzflag ingame server |
| 22:14.14 | rr72 | not the bzfs |
| 22:14.17 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:14.23 | JeffM2501 | -world takes the full path |
| 22:14.31 | JeffM2501 | oh in game |
| 22:14.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah it uses some folder |
| 22:14.40 | JeffM2501 | but it's better to use comamnd line |
| 22:15.00 | ts | ~bzflist |
| 22:15.40 | rr72 | im goignt to test a bunch of maps, don't want to keep exiting the game |
| 22:16.16 | rr72 | ?|? |
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| 22:16.21 | JeffM2501 | alt tab |
| 22:16.27 | rr72 | why alt tab? |
| 22:16.38 | JeffM2501 | then you can swap back to the desktop |
| 22:16.41 | JeffM2501 | change your server |
| 22:16.49 | JeffM2501 | then tab back, and rejoin the server |
| 22:16.58 | rr72 | alt-tab is crap |
| 22:17.06 | JeffM2501 | ohhhhh kay then |
| 22:17.10 | rr72 | reminds me to much of windows |
| 22:17.17 | rr72 | minimize is just F3 |
| 22:17.25 | JeffM2501 | on your os, probably |
| 22:17.27 | JeffM2501 | same concept |
| 22:17.32 | JeffM2501 | I didn't know your OS |
| 22:17.36 | JeffM2501 | and windows is the most popular |
| 22:17.42 | rr72 | windows is crap |
| 22:17.49 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
| 22:17.59 | rr72 | u as PDPC should know not to assume OSs |
| 22:18.08 | TimRiker | EEEEK! I killed my.bzflag.org |
| 22:18.21 | JeffM2501 | the concept is the same |
| 22:18.27 | rr72 | lol TimRiker |
| 22:18.27 | JeffM2501 | swap out to the desktop |
| 22:18.36 | rr72 | tannerld is nice |
| 22:18.45 | JeffM2501 | what makes you think I'm "PDPC"? |
| 22:18.50 | rr72 | ur cloak |
| 22:19.04 | JeffM2501 | oh that's just cus I donated |
| 22:19.10 | rr72 | thats what i meant |
| 22:19.11 | JeffM2501 | and couldn't come up with a cooler name |
| 22:19.28 | JeffM2501 | I was just going with what most of our users run |
| 22:19.41 | JeffM2501 | we have like 50% windows users, so it's often a safe bet |
| 22:19.47 | rr72 | freenode is mostly not windows |
| 22:19.48 | JeffM2501 | but it maters not |
| 22:19.53 | JeffM2501 | freenode != bzflag |
| 22:20.10 | rr72 | idc |
| 22:20.15 | ts | Lots of people with alternate OS play bz |
| 22:20.18 | rr72 | i just forgotr what u told me and i could care less |
| 22:20.35 | rr72 | alternate OSs? never heard taht one before |
| 22:20.40 | rr72 | is that some sort of dis? |
| 22:20.45 | JeffM2501 | non windows he means |
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| 22:20.54 | JeffM2501 | most servers are linux tho |
| 22:21.00 | ts | Lots of Linux and OS X users are playing bz |
| 22:21.05 | JeffM2501 | just most linux users don't start them with the in game menu |
| 22:21.25 | rr72 | Lots? try most |
| 22:21.30 | JeffM2501 | no it's not most |
| 22:21.34 | JeffM2501 | we track the numbers |
| 22:21.37 | JeffM2501 | it's less then half |
| 22:21.42 | rr72 | since most windoze users don't know what opensource is |
| 22:21.56 | rr72 | where does the ingame server look for maps? |
| 22:22.10 | JeffM2501 | your on linux? not bsd or something? |
| 22:22.28 | JeffM2501 | I can look and see for you |
| 22:22.29 | rr72 | ~/.bzfs? some folder there? |
| 22:22.44 | JeffM2501 | let me look, one sec |
| 22:23.42 | rr72 | ?? |
| 22:23.50 | rr72 | tannerld around? |
| 22:23.58 | A_Heart_Attack | i dont think so |
| 22:24.03 | A_Heart_Attack | try ##tanner |
| 22:24.20 | A_Heart_Attack | or #bzstocks |
| 22:24.25 | A_Heart_Attack | or ##aha |
| 22:24.26 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
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| 22:24.44 | JeffM2501 | looks like it just does it as -world mapname, so it'll be in the same dir as bzfs |
| 22:24.56 | essy | brlcad: ping |
| 22:25.00 | essy | DTRemenak: ping |
| 22:25.00 | rr72 | essy~ can u help me out with mny question? |
| 22:25.10 | rr72 | *my |
| 22:25.14 | DTRemenak | essy: we know :) |
| 22:25.17 | essy | rr72, I don't know what your question is |
| 22:25.25 | JeffM2501 | tim broke it |
| 22:25.26 | essy | it's the whole box, DTRemenak ? |
| 22:25.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:25.30 | rr72 | just wondering if you were nice wnough to try |
| 22:25.37 | essy | can't get into irssi either |
| 22:25.37 | DTRemenak | yup, firewalled |
| 22:25.39 | essy | gah |
| 22:25.41 | essy | did tim really break it?! |
| 22:25.43 | essy | ~bad TimRiker |
| 22:25.48 | ibot | Bad TimRiker, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 22:25.48 | JeffM2501 | yes, he did't mean to tho |
| 22:25.51 | rr72 | <TimRiker> EEEEK! I killed my.bzflag.org |
| 22:25.58 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 22:26.22 | TimRiker | I emailed brlcad and msg'ed him here. I don't have any way into the server anymore. I hope he does. |
| 22:26.25 | rr72 | essy~ where does the ingame server look for map files, not bzfs, ~/.bzfs something? |
| 22:26.25 | uso | brlcad: the listserver is offline, no ping answer, traceroute ends at sagonet.net |
| 22:26.39 | essy | I'll call him and see if he answers |
| 22:26.45 | TimRiker | please do. |
| 22:26.46 | rr72 | *~/.bzf |
| 22:27.16 | L4m3r | ONOZ! t3h BZBB!!! :( |
| 22:27.19 | essy | rr72: sorry, I'm blonde |
| 22:27.28 | rr72 | kinky |
| 22:27.31 | L4m3r | it went out last night briefly, also. |
| 22:27.41 | essy | TimRiker: no answer on his cell |
| 22:27.45 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || Yes the list server and fourms are down. |
| 22:28.01 | L4m3r | lol Jeff |
| 22:28.12 | [NP]Tangent | hey L4m3r, mind if I PM you real quick? |
| 22:28.17 | L4m3r | nope |
| 22:28.39 | JeffM2501 | rr72, try puting the maps in the same dir as bzfs, the in game menu just runs that bzfs for you. |
| 22:29.10 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || Yes the list server and fourms are down. (smack TimRiker) |
| 22:29.27 | A_Heart_Attack | s/fourms/forums |
| 22:29.37 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || Yes the list server and forums are down. (smack TimRiker) |
| 22:29.38 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 22:29.46 | A_Heart_Attack | ;) |
| 22:29.56 | A_Heart_Attack | ~snack timriker |
| 22:29.58 | ibot | ACTION throws timriker a doggy treat |
| 22:30.06 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:30.25 | rr72 | IMHO ts if you cintribute to BZflag you should get a cloak that reflects that ur affiliated to this project |
| 22:30.29 | rr72 | lol @ A_Heart_Attack |
| 22:30.38 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:30.50 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 22:30.55 | A_Heart_Attack | make BZFlag a project |
| 22:31.16 | A_Heart_Attack | and if you contribute to the project, you get a bzflag cloak |
| 22:31.17 | rr72 | the project leader needs to contact a staffer |
| 22:31.22 | A_Heart_Attack | i know |
| 22:31.25 | rr72 | prolly christel |
| 22:31.29 | rr72 | since LILO RIP |
| 22:31.34 | A_Heart_Attack | ---> /stats p |
| 22:31.48 | A_Heart_Attack | all the staffers that are on are listed there |
| 22:31.55 | rr72 | really? |
| 22:31.58 | A_Heart_Attack | yup |
| 22:32.02 | rr72 | i did NOT know that |
| 22:32.04 | A_Heart_Attack | BearPerson is on |
| 22:32.13 | rr72 | lol he doesnt do anything |
| 22:32.19 | A_Heart_Attack | sure he does |
| 22:32.31 | A_Heart_Attack | all staff does something |
| 22:32.42 | rr72 | brown.free was having peoblems and he wasnt around to answer my questsions |
| 22:32.58 | A_Heart_Attack | ahh |
| 22:32.59 | rr72 | i asked an ex staffer and she contacted him |
| 22:33.07 | A_Heart_Attack | try to PM him |
| 22:33.16 | A_Heart_Attack | he should answer that way |
| 22:33.16 | rr72 | that was like 8 or 9 monthes past |
| 22:33.33 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: would you concider making BZFlag a project? |
| 22:33.37 | A_Heart_Attack | or TimRiker |
| 22:33.47 | JeffM2501 | with freenode? |
| 22:33.47 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (n=shorty11@unaffiliated/shorty114) |
| 22:33.49 | JeffM2501 | it isn't? |
| 22:33.50 | A_Heart_Attack | sure |
| 22:33.51 | A_Heart_Attack | why now |
| 22:33.52 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:33.55 | A_Heart_Attack | *why not |
| 22:34.01 | JeffM2501 | what does it give us? |
| 22:34.01 | A_Heart_Attack | and you could give BZFlag cloaks |
| 22:34.11 | A_Heart_Attack | BZFlag cloaks |
| 22:34.12 | ts | rr72: huh? |
| 22:34.37 | A_Heart_Attack | lets see if i can find the link |
| 22:34.38 | JeffM2501 | I dunno, then people'd say I'd be "abusing my power" again |
| 22:34.39 | essy | JeffM2501: the project head needs to fill out a form |
| 22:34.43 | essy | I have the info |
| 22:34.45 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:34.45 | rr72 | A_Heart_Attack~ IIRC a staffer still needs to approve all cloaks, even ones given out by project leades |
| 22:34.57 | A_Heart_Attack | they do |
| 22:34.59 | essy | then they will contact you to confirm certain things |
| 22:35.11 | ts | I'm not interested in a cloak.. |
| 22:35.13 | JeffM2501 | I'll talk to brlcad and tim about it when this is resolved |
| 22:35.16 | essy | fyi, the project verification process is about a month behind schedule last I heard |
| 22:35.19 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 22:35.22 | JeffM2501 | I think we have biger fish to fry right now |
| 22:35.26 | essy | yes |
| 22:35.38 | JeffM2501 | mistakes happen TimRiker :) |
| 22:35.53 | TimRiker | it _looked_ like the right script to run. |
| 22:35.54 | JeffM2501 | your not the only one to have killed the server before ;) |
| 22:35.55 | rr72 | where do i put map files for the ingame server to find em? |
| 22:35.57 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:36.06 | JeffM2501 | rr72, I've told you twice now |
| 22:36.29 | rr72 | not bzfs but the one w/o admin capapbilites |
| 22:36.38 | JeffM2501 | it's the SAME thing |
| 22:36.42 | JeffM2501 | the game jsut runs bzfs |
| 22:36.43 | rr72 | the one u can select start server and all ur options in game |
| 22:37.01 | rr72 | i guess ill look at the config file |
| 22:37.03 | ts | rr72: That calls bzfs internally |
| 22:37.20 | rr72 | well im not calling bzfs |
| 22:37.26 | ts | so it is more or less the same |
| 22:37.26 | JeffM2501 | yes you are |
| 22:37.27 | rr72 | so i do i relay the maps to? |
| 22:37.31 | rr72 | *it |
| 22:37.32 | essy | JeffM2501: for later on - http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml |
| 22:37.57 | JeffM2501 | it'll be where ever bzfs is then /worlds |
| 22:38.04 | JeffM2501 | but your not going to listen to me anway |
| 22:38.09 | JeffM2501 | so there is no point |
| 22:38.24 | ts | traceroute: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/238280 |
| 22:38.25 | catay | fyi, listserver is working again |
| 22:38.43 | *** join/#bzflag tannerld_ (n=tanner@adsl-068-209-251-067.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:38.43 | JeffM2501 | there it goes |
| 22:38.49 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits |
| 22:38.49 | ts | uso: it's not ending at sagonet ;) |
| 22:39.01 | TimRiker | sweet! |
| 22:39.03 | ts | oh? |
| 22:39.05 | DTRemenak | ~brlcad++ |
| 22:39.16 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, just think of it as you helping out the kids by making them go outside for a bit ;) |
| 22:39.23 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 22:39.24 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:39.29 | ts | Did it heal itself or was it brlcad? |
| 22:39.36 | L4m3r | Outside?! NEVAR!!!! |
| 22:39.37 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml |
| 22:39.43 | TimRiker | ts: no idea. |
| 22:39.50 | JeffM2501 | A_Heart_Attack, your a bit late |
| 22:39.58 | rr72 | ?? |
| 22:40.01 | ts | Anyway, I like brlcad :) |
| 22:40.04 | ts | ~brlcad++ |
| 22:40.09 | L4m3r | lol |
| 22:40.12 | *** join/#bzflag guu (n=guubot@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:40.20 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: oh... |
| 22:40.22 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:40.25 | TimRiker | I don't see brlcad logged in on the box atm. |
| 22:40.25 | rr72 | its not in the config file ~.bzf/2.0/config |
| 22:40.32 | A_Heart_Attack | wow |
| 22:40.35 | A_Heart_Attack | *smacks |
| 22:40.47 | JeffM2501 | the only real thing we'd get is cloaks, and I don't realy see the point in that |
| 22:40.49 | L4m3r | ~lart A_Heart_Attack |
| 22:41.15 | JeffM2501 | I'd rather see cloaks for donations ;) |
| 22:41.29 | essy | TimRiker: he was kicked off earlier - I saw him disconnect |
| 22:41.44 | A_Heart_Attack | JeffM2501: "# Represents an official relationship between freenode and your project or organization. By registering your group, you're indicating that you are maintaining an official presence on the network. If your group is a legal entity, we want to make sure that management has approved your registration. " |
| 22:41.57 | JeffM2501 | I see that |
| 22:42.01 | JeffM2501 | but that dosn't buy us much |
| 22:42.07 | JeffM2501 | other thent he cloaks |
| 22:42.15 | JeffM2501 | we don't exactly use all the features of freenode |
| 22:42.23 | TimRiker | essy: I meant on my.bzflag.org, not here. |
| 22:42.40 | rr72 | ? may i get some help to finding the right dir for putting the maps in? i have no idea or i would be trying ones |
| 22:42.48 | essy | TimRiker: I know, but his irssi client sits on m.b.o, I think |
| 22:42.54 | JeffM2501 | he ignored me didn't he? |
| 22:42.57 | essy | so if it goes down then his client can disconnect too |
| 22:43.05 | essy | or, oh, never mind |
| 22:43.08 | essy | he's on bzflag.bz |
| 22:43.21 | DTRemenak | bzflag.bz is my.bzflag.org, essy :) |
| 22:43.28 | A_Heart_Attack | rr72: put it in the same dir as bzfs |
| 22:43.28 | essy | aha |
| 22:43.30 | A_Heart_Attack | yes? |
| 22:43.33 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:43.35 | JeffM2501 | wrong dir |
| 22:43.38 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 22:43.39 | *** join/#bzflag Manu (n=jujibo@about/essy/JujiboHunter/Manu) |
| 22:43.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Manu] by ChanServ |
| 22:43.57 | JeffM2501 | if he's ignoring those who want to help him just cus he dosn't like there OS, I say don't help him |
| 22:44.00 | rr72 | essy~ find yourself sinking into a hole? stop talking, it helps ;) |
| 22:44.18 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick) |
| 22:44.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 22:44.20 | rr72 | i do it all the time |
| 22:44.21 | DTRemenak | rr72: be nice |
| 22:44.22 | essy | JeffM2501: who? |
| 22:44.25 | JeffM2501 | he seems to be somewhat of a jerk |
| 22:44.28 | JeffM2501 | rr72 |
| 22:44.30 | rr72 | DTRemenak~ it was advice |
| 22:44.41 | JeffM2501 | so very ready for the boot |
| 22:44.45 | DTRemenak | wasn't terribly tactful advice :) |
| 22:44.45 | essy | rr72: I'm perfectly aware of the protocol around here, but thanks anyway |
| 22:44.46 | rr72 | i dig myself into holes all the time |
| 22:44.54 | JeffM2501 | like right now :) |
| 22:44.56 | L4m3r | Apparently... |
| 22:44.58 | rr72 | i was trying to help |
| 22:44.59 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:45.00 | rr72 | OMFG |
| 22:45.15 | rr72 | A_Heart_Attack~ ur cool lets chat in msgs? |
| 22:45.25 | A_Heart_Attack | join ##aha |
| 22:45.25 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 22:45.29 | A_Heart_Attack | chat there |
| 22:45.33 | L4m3r | lol asl? |
| 22:45.36 | JeffM2501 | then put him on ignore |
| 22:45.46 | rr72 | no i want help |
| 22:45.55 | rr72 | he seems to know what hes talking about |
| 22:45.57 | A_Heart_Attack | ill help you there |
| 22:46.01 | A_Heart_Attack | join ##aha |
| 22:46.04 | JeffM2501 | tell him I've been trying to help him but he's gone an burned the bridge |
| 22:46.13 | rr72 | he doesnt make me want to stab a knive through his chest like others here |
| 22:46.23 | *** kick/#bzflag [rr72!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 22:46.27 | JeffM2501 | and buhhbuy |
| 22:46.28 | A_Heart_Attack | rofl |
| 22:46.48 | A_Heart_Attack | 5... |
| 22:46.49 | A_Heart_Attack | 4... |
| 22:46.51 | shorty114 | i think he forgot IRC 101... don't argue with ops ;) |
| 22:46.52 | A_Heart_Attack | 3... |
| 22:46.54 | A_Heart_Attack | 2... |
| 22:46.57 | A_Heart_Attack | 1... |
| 22:47.01 | A_Heart_Attack | 0............... |
| 22:47.01 | JeffM2501 | dude, stop it |
| 22:47.06 | A_Heart_Attack | aww |
| 22:47.09 | A_Heart_Attack | fine |
| 22:47.19 | shorty114 | what's with all these A_whatever |
| 22:47.30 | Manu | TimRiker: all banned ;) |
| 22:47.34 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 22:47.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 22:47.35 | essy | A_Heart_Attack: this is not a general chat channel - better to keep chat to #bzchat or some of the other @about channels |
| 22:47.43 | A_Heart_Attack | those are our names, but with spaces |
| 22:47.58 | essy | DTRemenak: yes, my irssi died - still screened, but was disconnected |
| 22:51.32 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (n=gnurdux@c-69-251-233-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:53.42 | *** join/#bzflag brlcad (n=sean@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:53.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o brlcad] by ChanServ |
| 22:54.03 | brlcad | there we go :) |
| 22:54.16 | brlcad | *ahem* |
| 22:54.34 | SportChick | hellow brlcad :) |
| 22:54.35 | SportChick | -w |
| 22:54.54 | DTRemenak | ~brlcad++ |
| 22:55.09 | brlcad | that took a little bit to figure out |
| 22:55.52 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:56.00 | brlcad | must have happened within just a minute or two of me coming home, just took a while to investigate and get someone to walk up to the console |
| 22:56.14 | brlcad | then I saw the e-mail(s) |
| 22:56.15 | shorty114 | lol |
| 22:56.18 | SportChick | :) |
| 22:56.33 | SportChick | brlcad: your phone rang too, but it went straight to vm |
| 22:56.42 | SportChick | oh, one may have gone to your work |
| 22:58.33 | brlcad | hrm.. though I don't quite understand what they did to restore it.. I don't see an allow rule |
| 22:58.58 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:00.19 | brlcad | seriously.. there's no allow or pass rule |
| 23:00.23 | brlcad | hrmph |
| 23:00.47 | Manu | brlcad: all banned? ;) |
| 23:01.09 | brlcad | yeah, that's what it's still set to |
| 23:01.25 | Manu | hehe |
| 23:01.29 | Manu | I saw the message |
| 23:02.06 | ts | Wait a moment..how can it work when all are banned? |
| 23:02.19 | Manu | magic |
| 23:03.27 | Manu | thanks DTRemenak ;) |
| 23:03.46 | ts | My most loved word is automagically ;) |
| 23:04.10 | TimRiker | brlcad: sorry. guess that was the wrong script. |
| 23:04.51 | brlcad | TimRiker: heh, no problem .. |
| 23:05.14 | Manu | it's another nice way to save bandwidth |
| 23:10.38 | brlcad | TimRiker: actually it was the right script, but coupled with a less than ideal config setting .. rc.firewall was configured to use a custom rules file. that rules file was lacking the allow rule for some (still unknown) reason and the firewall is not really ever flushed/reset |
| 23:11.09 | brlcad | hadn't been reloaded in at least six months |
| 23:19.57 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:26.33 | TimRiker | as policy I always reload firewalls using the boot scripts. this insures that any random reboot would do the same. course I don't ever expect the server to reboot, but that's a completely different issue. :) |
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| 23:29.43 | brlcad | TimRiker: a reasonable expectation for both of course, and it should/would have worked had someone not edited the rules file and removed the allow.. :) had it rebooted, it would have still been hosed |
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