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| 08:05.00 | tarco | hi |
| 08:05.09 | tarco | dj |
| 08:05.15 | tarco | boggy |
| 08:05.28 | daniel_jackson | hey tarco "/msg NickServ identify <password>" |
| 08:05.32 | tarco | done |
| 08:05.37 | daniel_jackson | good |
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| 10:04.14 | Rawk | Hi daniel_jackson :-) |
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| 14:15.02 | Raful | hi |
| 14:15.17 | Raful | how can i choose map when i open server, do i have to choose random? |
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| 14:22.33 | orchid | Raful: when you run your own server? |
| 14:23.56 | Raful | what do you mean when? |
| 14:26.56 | CBG | orchid: I think Raful is trying to run a server from the in game Start A Server menu. |
| 14:27.28 | orchid | ahh, I don't think that will work then |
| 14:29.23 | Raful | CBG : yea you are right, so I can't change map then? |
| 14:30.54 | orchid | Raful: you need to run the server from the command line to specify a different map than default |
| 14:31.26 | orchid | ~bzfs |
| 14:31.27 | ibot | somebody said bzfs was the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
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| 15:26.49 | mom | hey guys and gals? |
| 15:27.05 | a_meteorite | nah, dudes and gals |
| 15:27.12 | mom | I just installed bzflag for my kidz but it runs real slow |
| 15:27.18 | mom | k |
| 15:27.40 | a_meteorite | install video card drivers from the manufacturer :) |
| 15:27.40 | mom | I'm running KANOTIX Linux on a new Dell with i829 integrated graphics |
| 15:27.59 | mom | I'm wondering if there's an accelorator script? |
| 15:28.07 | a_meteorite | Ah.. Linux |
| 15:28.19 | mom | I used one on my nVidia box and that fixed the problem |
| 15:28.27 | a_meteorite | that's going to be somewhat a pain, I remember my nvidia driver experience |
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| 15:29.37 | mom | well, I ran bzflag in linux on another i810 box without any accelorator just fine |
| 15:29.55 | mom | these Dells are going to be the death of me |
| 15:30.10 | a_meteorite | different distro? |
| 15:30.28 | a_meteorite | I'm thinking the other machine might of included the drivers in a sort of universal repo |
| 15:32.07 | a_meteorite | take a look at www.intellinuxgraphics.org, 810 is supported |
| 15:33.21 | a_meteorite | anyways, that's about as far as I know... I don't have a real graphics card (nor a supported integrated one) to really help in linux :( |
| 15:33.32 | a_meteorite | going to head to a match, one of these gents could help you |
| 15:33.38 | a_meteorite | *practice |
| 15:34.17 | mom | thx |
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| 15:37.36 | blast007 | mom: you sure it's an i829? I'm not find a reference to that on Intel's site |
| 15:37.54 | mom | thought so |
| 15:37.59 | mom | let me check |
| 15:39.41 | mom | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 15:39.51 | JeffM2501 | that is a 915 |
| 15:39.53 | blast007 | ah, 915/910 |
| 15:39.54 | mom | that's what I get from lspci -v |
| 15:40.04 | mom | oh |
| 15:40.06 | mom | oops |
| 15:40.16 | blast007 | DRI should support that then |
| 15:40.23 | mom | how? |
| 15:40.24 | blast007 | so you'll probably have to install that |
| 15:40.34 | mom | what is DRI |
| 15:40.36 | mom | ? |
| 15:41.06 | blast007 | http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/DRIbeginner.html |
| 15:41.16 | mom | never used that before, either bz worked fine right after install or I had to add nVidia script |
| 15:41.32 | mom | but this ain't nVidia |
| 15:41.37 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 15:42.38 | mom | thx |
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| 18:05.21 | JeffM2501 | If we get the transient facts, then we feel the info high. If we get the transient facts, then we are free to fly high in space. |
| 18:06.19 | PuMpErNiCkLe | And if we had mescaline, we could be flying with JeffM2501. O.o |
| 18:06.52 | DTRemenak | hahaha |
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| 18:14.29 | JeffM2501 | baby got a satalite. baby got a second sight, baby got a master plan, a fool proof master plan. Baby purple hair, baby got a secret lair, baby got an army in there. |
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| 18:39.37 | JeffM2501 | sooo... many... little... 8.0.... bugs :( |
| 18:40.27 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak you around? |
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| 19:09.10 | silverfox | On the page http://bzflag.org/wiki/ the link to "browse CVS" is broken. |
| 19:09.19 | silverfox | where is everyone? |
| 19:09.39 | silverfox | oh... there is my nicklist... new irc client. |
| 19:09.41 | tannerld | Zzzzz.... |
| 19:10.40 | silverfox | And doxygen link from the home page is broke as well: http://bzflag.org/doxygen/ |
| 19:10.55 | JeffM2501 | so fix it |
| 19:11.57 | JeffM2501 | ahh, the wonderfull IMs I get :) |
| 19:12.07 | JeffM2501 | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/213969 |
| 19:12.54 | tannerld | lol |
| 19:13.10 | JeffM2501 | his final reason for wanting to be one "I'm bored of being just a player" |
| 19:13.31 | tannerld | did you reply back? |
| 19:13.36 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 19:14.08 | JeffM2501 | human children are so silly sometimes. |
| 19:14.36 | tannerld | heh |
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| 19:15.59 | shorty114 | haha |
| 19:16.05 | ibunny | hello babes :** |
| 19:16.10 | silverfox | JeffM2501, is the sidebar nav a wiki page? If so, which? |
| 19:16.12 | CBG | php irc bots > children |
| 19:16.28 | JeffM2501 | silverfox, no, it's html in cvs IIRC |
| 19:16.35 | JeffM2501 | the web project |
| 19:17.01 | JeffM2501 | you don't need it |
| 19:17.06 | JeffM2501 | anon has it |
| 19:17.17 | JeffM2501 | get it, fix it, submit it as a patch and we'll apply it |
| 19:18.11 | JeffM2501 | and I don't want the world to see me.. because I don't think they'd understand. when everything is meant to be broken, I just want you to know who I am. |
| 19:18.40 | silverfox | hmm.. ok. |
| 19:18.55 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: yeah |
| 19:19.03 | JeffM2501 | your too late :) |
| 19:19.05 | DTRemenak | aw |
| 19:19.12 | JeffM2501 | It was a work question anyway |
| 19:19.19 | JeffM2501 | the read only res file thing |
| 19:19.22 | DTRemenak | would've answered it regardless |
| 19:19.23 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 19:19.56 | JeffM2501 | you'll see an e-mail about it monday |
| 19:19.56 | DTRemenak | you've got a boolean in the called function to make it not writeable, the caller just didn't set it |
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| 19:20.15 | JeffM2501 | not writeable still sets "r+b" |
| 19:20.20 | JeffM2501 | so that's not right |
| 19:20.22 | DTRemenak | no, it sets rb |
| 19:20.30 | JeffM2501 | no.... |
| 19:20.39 | JeffM2501 | I had it do rb if r+b fails |
| 19:21.02 | JeffM2501 | no, I'm wrong |
| 19:21.04 | DTRemenak | there's an if statement in there, is there not, that sets rb one way and r+b the other? |
| 19:21.08 | JeffM2501 | your right |
| 19:21.12 | JeffM2501 | I missed the ! |
| 19:21.15 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 19:23.33 | JeffM2501 | guess it's what I get for staying up till 1:45 |
| 19:23.41 | DTRemenak | shouldn't do that |
| 19:23.47 | JeffM2501 | it was worth it |
| 19:24.07 | DTRemenak | what'd you do? |
| 19:24.15 | JeffM2501 | just talking to a friend of mine |
| 19:24.18 | DTRemenak | ah, cool |
| 19:28.02 | JeffM2501 | god we open the post like 9 times before we use it :( |
| 19:38.49 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 19:43.19 | JeffM2501 | do you need the gun? |
| 19:45.23 | DTRemenak | gun? |
| 19:45.29 | JeffM2501 | large, nerf |
| 19:45.42 | DTRemenak | hard to send over the internet |
| 19:45.49 | JeffM2501 | you'll find a way |
| 19:45.57 | DTRemenak | but I'd totally nail him with it if I could :) |
| 19:46.17 | DTRemenak | I even had a comment in the code right next to where he commited that said not to do what he did :) |
| 19:46.25 | JeffM2501 | hah |
| 19:51.58 | hardwire | JeffM2501: If I were to modify some client code.. are there dumbbots available to test things against? |
| 19:56.11 | JeffM2501 | -solo N |
| 19:56.17 | JeffM2501 | every client can do bots |
| 19:56.32 | hardwire | nice |
| 19:57.16 | hardwire | so -solo 4 ont he client then start a server? |
| 19:57.20 | DTRemenak | they are pretty stupid though |
| 19:57.22 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 19:57.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:57.29 | hardwire | yeh.. I just need to test a client mod |
| 19:57.33 | JeffM2501 | you have to join a server |
| 19:57.34 | DTRemenak | well, start a server, then join with -solo 4 on the client |
| 19:57.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:57.41 | JeffM2501 | bots are all client side |
| 19:57.46 | DTRemenak | you could start one from inside the client I suppose |
| 19:57.49 | JeffM2501 | we don't have server side bots yet |
| 19:57.59 | hardwire | JeffM2501: thats so weird |
| 19:58.05 | CBG | yet? will they be in 2.2? |
| 19:58.16 | hardwire | does solo only work if you are the only tank in a server session? |
| 19:58.21 | CBG | no |
| 19:58.23 | DTRemenak | CBG: they are planned to exist. nothing has any timeline in this project, you know that :) |
| 19:58.28 | JeffM2501 | hardwire, yes |
| 19:58.41 | JeffM2501 | they are about 50% done |
| 19:58.45 | CBG | DTRemenak: I thought maybe the code was already in HEAD :P |
| 19:58.46 | hardwire | I think JeffM2501 understood my question |
| 19:58.47 | JeffM2501 | you can have a server side bot spawn |
| 19:58.57 | JeffM2501 | but it can't do much else |
| 19:59.14 | DTRemenak | hardwire, no...you can join a server with other players while your bots are there. you will get banned from most public servers if you do though. |
| 19:59.22 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:59.27 | hardwire | because you are bringing in bots eh |
| 19:59.31 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 19:59.41 | hardwire | so it should be -havoc not -solo |
| 19:59.47 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:00.02 | JeffM2501 | some servers allow it, some don't |
| 20:00.06 | JeffM2501 | ok, many don't |
| 20:00.12 | hardwire | crap |
| 20:00.16 | hardwire | I just got kileld by a bot |
| 20:00.18 | hardwire | :( |
| 20:00.22 | hardwire | I am really bad at this game |
| 20:01.16 | DTRemenak | the bots are pretty deadly |
| 20:01.24 | hardwire | they know where I am |
| 20:01.26 | DTRemenak | not very smart though |
| 20:01.32 | hardwire | thats an instant advantage |
| 20:01.40 | hardwire | always knowing w/o any need to visualize a radar |
| 20:01.52 | DTRemenak | they also can't misestimate things :) |
| 20:02.08 | CBG | They have great aim but don't dodge well or jump at all. |
| 20:02.19 | CBG | They're easily beaten on a jumping server. |
| 20:02.56 | DTRemenak | be really hard to play against then (non-jumping of course) |
| 20:04.39 | DTRemenak | heh...the joys of UPS tracking numbers: "AN INCORRECT ROUTING AT A UPS FACILITY CAUSED THIS DELAY;THE PACKAGE WAS MISSORTED AT THE HUB. IT HAS BEEN REROUTED TO THE CORRECT DESTINATION SITE" |
| 20:04.53 | CBG | fabulous. |
| 20:04.58 | silverfox | JeffM2501, are SSB (server side bots) based on the bzrobot code or autopilot, or is it totally new? |
| 20:05.03 | DTRemenak | thus the package sent from la puente, CA, to simi valley, CA, goes though Atlanta, GA |
| 20:05.26 | JeffM2501 | they have no logic yet |
| 20:05.31 | DTRemenak | would have been faster to drive there and get it |
| 20:05.33 | JeffM2501 | so they are not based on anyt bot code |
| 20:05.43 | JeffM2501 | they are plugins, so any logic could be used |
| 20:05.50 | JeffM2501 | I was just doing the hooks for them to exist |
| 20:06.10 | silverfox | interesting. Very cool. |
| 20:06.12 | CBG | "UPS makes shipping easier than ever." Sure, if they send it to the right place... ;) |
| 20:07.00 | DTRemenak | oh, I'm sure it will get here, although my current estimated delivery is currently NULL/NULL/NULL (ship date is 10/19/2006) |
| 20:07.53 | JeffM2501 | oh the sample bot pluiin insults you when you join |
| 20:07.59 | JeffM2501 | it's how I checked the chat interface :) |
| 20:08.03 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 20:08.25 | DTRemenak | talks trash, and then spawns and sits there like a duck? :) |
| 20:08.25 | silverfox | sweet! |
| 20:08.34 | silverfox | my kind of bot. |
| 20:08.41 | JeffM2501 | spawns, then trash talks on each player join |
| 20:09.17 | silverfox | what does the --enable-optimized configure switch do? |
| 20:09.36 | DTRemenak | -O3 probably |
| 20:10.06 | silverfox | for some reason the client isn't compiling when I make. I even tried w/--enable-client, but no luck |
| 20:10.19 | silverfox | ah... no SDL. nvmd. |
| 20:10.21 | DTRemenak | what errors are you getting (pastebin of course) |
| 20:10.23 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 20:10.37 | DTRemenak | on linux it should build without sdl actually |
| 20:10.46 | DTRemenak | I hope we haven't broken that yet |
| 20:10.53 | silverfox | but, I have to tell it no-sdl then? |
| 20:11.43 | DTRemenak | mmm...maybe...it should fall back when configure finds no sdl |
| 20:12.03 | silverfox | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/214036 |
| 20:12.25 | silverfox | no errors, just doesn't configure it to be compiled. |
| 20:12.31 | DTRemenak | probably missing opengl then |
| 20:13.05 | DTRemenak | or X ;) |
| 20:13.22 | silverfox | I'm in X now. ;) |
| 20:13.41 | silverfox | using xorg-driver-fglrx w/ubuntu |
| 20:13.48 | DTRemenak | that doesn't necessarily mean you have the headers :) |
| 20:14.21 | silverfox | ah. |
| 20:14.22 | DTRemenak | but 99 times out of 100, no client means configure couldn't find the opengl headers or libs |
| 20:14.56 | silverfox | any idea what ubuntu/debian package has the opengl headers? |
| 20:15.18 | DTRemenak | xorg-mesa-devel or something like that |
| 20:18.41 | silverfox | that was it! |
| 20:18.43 | silverfox | thanks DTRemenak |
| 20:18.48 | DTRemenak | np |
| 20:18.56 | silverfox | had to install the package xorg-driver-fglrx |
| 20:19.00 | silverfox | oops... |
| 20:19.06 | silverfox | no, had to add the package libglu1-mesa-dev |
| 20:26.38 | silverfox | Any idea what "LinuxDisplay.h:24:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:26.39 | silverfox | " is about? |
| 20:29.47 | silverfox | another missing package I think. Since I'm using xorg, it can't find xf86 files... |
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| 20:34.05 | silverfox | yup |
| 20:34.59 | DTRemenak | mhm |
| 20:35.12 | DTRemenak | probably need another configure check for that |
| 20:35.54 | DTRemenak | or just apt-get install libxxf86vm-dev |
| 20:36.05 | DTRemenak | maybe only one x |
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| 20:49.05 | CBG | ~Gilly++ |
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| 21:33.29 | hardwire | nyeh |
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| 21:35.06 | hardwire | weird |
| 21:36.53 | hardwire | bzrobot is the bots? |
| 21:37.10 | hardwire | for -solo? |
| 21:37.16 | hardwire | it sounded like it was something else earler |
| 21:44.13 | hardwire | fudge |
| 21:44.45 | CBG | toffee |
| 21:45.08 | hardwire | cvs compilation of doom |
| 21:45.43 | hardwire | debian unstable build environment.. I snagged all the libs required by the bzflag 2.0.8 package in unstable |
| 21:45.58 | hardwire | and I find myself having to specify --enable-client on the configure line |
| 21:46.27 | hardwire | I thought it worked once.. I reran another configure and now its not accepting it |
| 21:46.29 | hardwire | weird |
| 21:47.19 | hardwire | nm |
| 21:47.25 | hardwire | for some reason it hates my gl dev package |
| 21:49.13 | hardwire | its been a while since I ran a ./configure :) |
| 21:57.07 | hardwire | is checkHit called on its own timer? |
| 21:57.51 | hardwire | wow.. this is fascinating |
| 22:01.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.52 | hardwire | I can see why so many people cheat |
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| 23:21.13 | A-Delusion | if i change my nick on bzbb, will PM's be forwarded to new name? |
| 23:23.31 | A_Heart_Attack | yes |
| 23:23.40 | A-Delusion | you sure? |
| 23:23.45 | A_Heart_Attack | yup |
| 23:23.48 | A-Delusion | ok |
| 23:23.52 | A_Heart_Attack | because its the same acount |
| 23:24.11 | A_Heart_Attack | PM's dont care about the Nick |
| 23:24.16 | A_Heart_Attack | just the acount |
| 23:24.23 | JeffM2501 | a name change dosn't change the account |
| 23:24.27 | JeffM2501 | it's all bzID |
| 23:24.44 | A_Heart_Attack | i beet you on the first part Jeff |
| 23:24.45 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 23:26.37 | A-Delusion | well, i changed it last tues and hadn't gotten a PM since, was just wondering... thanks both |
| 23:28.57 | A_Heart_Attack | i havnt gotten a PM in like 2 months |
| 23:28.59 | A_Heart_Attack | dont worrey |
| 23:29.00 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 23:29.02 | A_Heart_Attack | *worry |
| 23:33.48 | JeffM2501 | now there is no forwarding |
| 23:33.59 | A_Heart_Attack | ? |
| 23:34.00 | JeffM2501 | if somone tries to send to your old name, they will get an error |
| 23:34.15 | JeffM2501 | since a user under that name dosn't exist anymore |
| 23:34.24 | A_Heart_Attack | oh |
| 23:34.29 | A_Heart_Attack | i was wrong then |
| 23:34.39 | JeffM2501 | or if somone else took your old name, they'd get it |
| 23:34.45 | JeffM2501 | if the PM was sent via name |
| 23:36.28 | A-Delusion | hmmm... any way to recover the one's i've (probbly) missed? |
| 23:37.34 | JeffM2501 | if you didn't get them, they were not sent |
| 23:37.41 | JeffM2501 | does anyone have your old name right now? |
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| 23:57.40 | silverfox | just checked out 2.1 |
| 23:57.48 | silverfox | neat. |
| 23:58.26 | silverfox | Is the choppy spanning from left to right (or right to left) a setting I should change, my hardware, or just something in the current CVS that hasn't been worked out? |