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| 00:05.19 | a_meteorite | blast007: Poo on you. |
| 00:06.16 | Think_Differentl | i have a question |
| 00:06.24 | a_meteorite | Alright! |
| 00:06.37 | Think_Differentl | Ok...well my bzfs was just freshly compiled |
| 00:06.43 | Think_Differentl | got it from the CVS |
| 00:07.12 | a_meteorite | k |
| 00:07.35 | Think_Differentl | I've set it up, forwrded the ports, and when you join you cant spawn, you just see the "press i to spawn" |
| 00:08.54 | Think_Differentl | any ideas? |
| 00:09.35 | razeryan | i do but it wouldnt be very useful |
| 00:09.53 | Think_Differentl | what si it? |
| 00:09.59 | razeryan | in fact it has nothin to do with servers :P |
| 00:10.03 | Think_Differentl | Oh. |
| 00:10.04 | razeryan | lol |
| 00:10.04 | Think_Differentl | :P |
| 00:10.07 | razeryan | ADD |
| 00:10.33 | Gnurdux | no, its not |
| 00:10.44 | Gnurdux | ive had this problem before |
| 00:10.58 | Think_Differentl | well then, whats the solution? |
| 00:11.00 | Gnurdux | if you try to spawn then type something server forces a disconnect |
| 00:11.04 | Gnurdux | i dont remember |
| 00:11.10 | Gnurdux | what are the sevrer options? |
| 00:11.25 | Think_Differentl | the server options? |
| 00:11.57 | Think_Differentl | i'm starting it with "bzfs -conf /path/to/config" |
| 00:12.27 | a_meteorite | SportChick: ping |
| 00:12.29 | Think_Differentl | bbl |
| 00:12.40 | Gnurdux | blast007, why did you ban a meteorite? |
| 00:12.50 | SportChick | a_meteorite come to ##essy |
| 00:13.19 | blast007 | Gnurdux: none of your business, and certainly of no concern for this channel |
| 00:13.32 | a_meteorite | it is his business cause I made it |
| 00:13.38 | a_meteorite | but not for this channel |
| 00:13.41 | Gnurdux | a_meteorite claims he doesn't know why |
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| 00:14.34 | newnick | hey sum1 kick razeryan plz so i can be me |
| 00:14.44 | a_meteorite | erm |
| 00:14.56 | newnick | what |
| 00:14.58 | newnick | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.59 | Gnurdux | newnick, thats what ghost is for |
| 00:15.06 | Gnurdux | you'd hjave to kick him from the SERVER |
| 00:15.07 | newnick | ghost? |
| 00:15.20 | Gnurdux | ghost has to be on a registered nick |
| 00:15.32 | Gnurdux | oh, he is registered |
| 00:15.36 | newnick | lol |
| 00:15.40 | Gnurdux | /msg NickServ ghost user pass |
| 00:15.48 | newnick | ah |
| 00:15.51 | newnick | ty |
| 00:16.14 | Gnurdux | but it happened anyway |
| 00:16.21 | Gnurdux | connection timed out |
| 00:27.06 | Think_Differentl | any ideas? |
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| 02:25.48 | AAA_awright | ~dns 74.119.210.211 |
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| 03:13.37 | Thumper_ | brlcad: nope that's me |
| 03:20.16 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
| 03:25.18 | Thumper_ | ~dns bzflag.norang.ca |
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| 06:45.16 | a_meteorite | nick125_lappy: ping |
| 06:47.07 | a_meteorite | ~bzfquery bzfx.net:6026 |
| 06:47.11 | a_meteorite | ~dns bzfx.net |
| 06:57.47 | nick125_lappy | pong |
| 07:03.00 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 07:03.05 | a_meteorite | new server is up |
| 07:03.11 | a_meteorite | you can shutdown the backup server |
| 07:03.14 | a_meteorite | big thanks :) |
| 07:04.48 | a_meteorite | anyways, I got to get going, nick125_lappy |
| 07:04.51 | a_meteorite | cya |
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| 08:18.12 | brlcad | Thumper_: oops, removed :) |
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| 16:53.27 | brlcad | ahh, there ya go |
| 16:53.37 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:53.47 | JeffM2501 | no, I just can't remember :) |
| 16:53.47 | brlcad | nvr mind |
| 16:53.52 | JeffM2501 | and caps lock :) |
| 16:53.57 | brlcad | ahh :) |
| 16:58.20 | JeffM2501 | you get a notice when that happens? or just happen to be watching me? |
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| 17:08.32 | JeffM2501 | Erroneous, you know where his script to clean up inactive users is? |
| 17:08.35 | SportChick | JeffM2501: his windows box died |
| 17:08.44 | JeffM2501 | suxorz |
| 17:08.47 | SportChick | yep |
| 17:09.22 | SportChick | JeffM2501: if you REALLY need him, i can give him a ring |
| 17:09.28 | SportChick | I haven't talked to him in a while anyway |
| 17:09.34 | JeffM2501 | it's not that important |
| 17:09.40 | JeffM2501 | he had a script to clean up dead bzbb users |
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| 17:09.55 | blast007 | cemetary.php |
| 17:09.58 | JeffM2501 | I can annoy Erroneous till he fins it :) |
| 17:10.47 | blast007 | *cough* |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM2501 | blast007 you have something? |
| 17:10.48 | blast007 | nope |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM2501 | can you get something? |
| 17:10.57 | blast007 | I don't like running 'delete' queries ;) |
| 17:11.07 | JeffM2501 | yeah I know |
| 17:11.16 | JeffM2501 | that's why I wanted the script, I know it works :) |
| 17:11.20 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 17:11.29 | JeffM2501 | do we ever backup the database? |
| 17:11.36 | blast007 | unlikely |
| 17:11.42 | JeffM2501 | sweet |
| 17:11.53 | blast007 | unless brlcad has something that runs |
| 17:12.07 | JeffM2501 | I think he does, but I don't know if it does the sql stuff |
| 17:13.08 | JeffM2501 | birdie what were the Ips you had for YourDead? |
| 17:13.19 | JeffM2501 | wow, tripple birdie action |
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| 17:15.41 | blast007 | and even more Birdie ;) |
| 17:15.52 | Birdie____ | pff |
| 17:15.54 | JeffM2501 | one may even call it a flock |
| 17:15.56 | Birdie____ | and all with one client:) |
| 17:16.06 | Birdie____ | internet far from stable |
| 17:16.21 | tannerld | lol |
| 17:16.34 | Birdie____ | at least i cna ghost one |
| 17:17.00 | JeffM2501 | what were the Ips you had for your dead, birdie? |
| 17:17.04 | blast007 | you should register your alternate nicks and link them to your main one |
| 17:18.54 | Birdie | 69.119.240.73 and 69.119.237.214 |
| 17:18.55 | Birdie | blast007: if i find out one day how to link them:) |
| 17:19.01 | SportChick | Birdie: it's very easy |
| 17:19.06 | Birdie | blast007: if i register all nicks with same password, that wont do the job? |
| 17:19.07 | SportChick | Birdie: type /msg nickserv help link |
| 17:19.19 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 17:19.28 | Birdie | sure |
| 17:19.34 | Birdie | sc: thx |
| 17:19.40 | JeffM2501 | know if the name "nuke_em" was ever used by him? |
| 17:20.31 | Birdie | no idea, sc might know that? |
| 17:20.41 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, might you know that? |
| 17:21.22 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I don't but let me see if I can find anything |
| 17:21.22 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
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| 17:21.54 | JeffM2501 | right after I did the large subnet ban, brlcad gets an e-mail from a user about how they are banned |
| 17:21.58 | JeffM2501 | so he forwards it to me |
| 17:22.46 | JeffM2501 | it's from an email address that REALY seems like it's a common email addy from an ISP for a husband and wife. ( you know hisANDherName@whatever.com) |
| 17:22.57 | JeffM2501 | so I ask what name, and the name is nuke_em |
| 17:23.01 | JeffM2501 | and like 4 variants |
| 17:23.10 | JeffM2501 | so it REALY seems like it's a kid using parents e-mail |
| 17:23.21 | JeffM2501 | and a name that he could pick |
| 17:23.30 | JeffM2501 | but I don't have a ban for the IP address they gave me |
| 17:24.16 | JeffM2501 | and just about every message ends in "can you please unban me" |
| 17:24.48 | Birdie | at least he is friendly:) |
| 17:24.57 | Birdie | (to be unbanned) |
| 17:25.06 | JeffM2501 | well if it is him it would make sense |
| 17:25.11 | JeffM2501 | the subnet would have goten him |
| 17:25.30 | JeffM2501 | and he'd not send ME an e-mail cus he knows that I'd be lokin for him |
| 17:25.38 | JeffM2501 | and the last e-mail he has left is his parents |
| 17:26.07 | JeffM2501 | nor would he want to give me his real IP, cus i'd put 2 and 2 together |
| 17:26.17 | JeffM2501 | at first he tried to give me his lan Ips |
| 17:26.32 | JeffM2501 | maybe he's hoping I'll blindly remove all bans or something |
| 17:26.35 | JeffM2501 | but we'll see |
| 17:26.36 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I see nothing, but can't find the websites for the latest leagues - I was going to check to see if they had a nuke_em registered |
| 17:26.45 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:27.07 | JeffM2501 | well if I can get a real Ip from them, I'll put it as an exception and we can see if they come back |
| 17:27.14 | JeffM2501 | or cause problems |
| 17:27.28 | blast007 | nuke_em is registered on bzbb |
| 17:27.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:27.55 | JeffM2501 | he can't get in cus he says he's banned |
| 17:28.13 | JeffM2501 | so it's ether a legit user that got stuck in a range ban |
| 17:28.26 | SportChick | blast007: yes, but if it was YD, I would have expected him to try to register his new nick on the league sites |
| 17:28.27 | JeffM2501 | or somone trying to weasle there way back in |
| 17:29.04 | SportChick | JeffM2501: random question... |
| 17:29.16 | SportChick | iirc, if someone posts to bzbb you can get their ip |
| 17:29.22 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:29.29 | JeffM2501 | but ONLY when they post |
| 17:29.33 | JeffM2501 | or are on when I'm looking |
| 17:29.57 | SportChick | oh wait, my idea might not work |
| 17:30.03 | blast007 | doesn't registration also store their IP? |
| 17:30.05 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:30.08 | SportChick | if they are banned, they can't logon to bzbb either can they |
| 17:30.10 | blast007 | bah.. |
| 17:30.13 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 17:30.13 | SportChick | nm |
| 17:30.22 | JeffM2501 | I would like it if we stored the registration IP |
| 17:30.35 | JeffM2501 | feel like upgrading bzbb and moding that in? ;) |
| 17:30.48 | JeffM2501 | pulllleeeaaaasssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:31.00 | blast007 | someone was working on an upgrade |
| 17:31.12 | JeffM2501 | a real someone? or just "someone"? |
| 17:31.18 | tannerld | there already is a mod for getting the registration ip, but whether it will work on yours... |
| 17:31.18 | blast007 | a real someone |
| 17:31.23 | JeffM2501 | and realy if it's not dmp, you, or meno.... |
| 17:31.37 | SportChick | it's not [dmp], I'm 90% sure |
| 17:31.47 | JeffM2501 | or Erroneous, we trust him too |
| 17:31.53 | blast007 | I'm thinking it was gsnedders |
| 17:31.56 | blast007 | let me check my logs |
| 17:32.01 | JeffM2501 | he has access? |
| 17:32.10 | JeffM2501 | and have we seen his webwork? |
| 17:32.41 | JeffM2501 | basicly do you trust him to do it well?, cus I trust your work and opinon |
| 17:33.00 | JeffM2501 | and if this upgrade gets jacked, we are somewhat "screwed" |
| 17:33.16 | blast007 | basically we just have to make a backup of everything |
| 17:33.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah I know, but downtime sucks too |
| 17:33.27 | blast007 | then worst case, roll back |
| 17:33.30 | blast007 | yeah.. |
| 17:33.45 | blast007 | I think he has access to the server |
| 17:33.57 | JeffM2501 | ok, then at least brlcad trusts him |
| 17:33.58 | JeffM2501 | that's good |
| 17:42.15 | Erroneous | but, it's on my home machine |
| 17:42.25 | Erroneous | and meno's is better anyway |
| 17:42.32 | JeffM2501 | his was on the server IIRC |
| 17:42.41 | Erroneous | ah, then I should be able to get to it |
| 17:44.02 | JeffM2501 | maybe in a home dir somewhere |
| 17:46.22 | Erroneous | you SEEN meno's home dir JeffM2501? :) |
| 17:46.33 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 17:46.50 | Erroneous | the directory listing is several pages long |
| 17:46.54 | Erroneous | and most of it is subdirs |
| 17:46.56 | JeffM2501 | if I had, I could see his home dir, I coudl search myself :) |
| 17:47.22 | JeffM2501 | I gots no roots on the machine |
| 17:47.24 | JeffM2501 | thankfully |
| 17:47.43 | [dmp] | pwd |
| 17:47.46 | [dmp] | oops |
| 17:47.57 | JeffM2501 | big near opps |
| 17:48.21 | JeffM2501 | tho if your password was oops, that'd be great :) |
| 17:48.34 | Erroneous | good argument for setting your password to oops |
| 17:49.45 | JeffM2501 | I think I saw some show where somone knocked on the door "what's the password" "Oh shut the ever loving &#&#@&$^#& UP!".. "ok that's it" |
| 17:50.29 | JeffM2501 | tho "i'm a prety prety princess" would work as well |
| 17:54.49 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yes, there are database backups .. they are backed up locally daily and those backups are backed up remotely every week |
| 17:55.13 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 17:55.26 | JeffM2501 | I remember saying you paid for some backup system |
| 17:56.43 | JeffM2501 | just cus |
| 17:58.09 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
| 17:58.17 | Birdie | you have to ask pimpi about gsnedders, he knows him quite well |
| 17:58.25 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:58.29 | JeffM2501 | that' |
| 17:58.32 | JeffM2501 | that's good |
| 17:58.39 | Erroneous | :wq |
| 17:58.41 | Erroneous | ww |
| 17:58.44 | Birdie | as far as i know he is young, but you can trust him, he is been a good admin on vipers |
| 17:58.44 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:58.48 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 17:59.01 | JeffM2501 | the upgrade of bzbb :) |
| 17:59.13 | JeffM2501 | just making sure it dosn't get boinked :0 |
| 17:59.15 | JeffM2501 | :) even |
| 17:59.17 | brlcad | yeah, there's a paid backup system too, though that one of all of them actually isn't being put to use just yet :) |
| 17:59.37 | gsnedders | Birdie: I'm 14, IIRC :P |
| 17:59.45 | Birdie | thats young:) |
| 17:59.53 | Birdie | well "young", |
| 17:59.53 | JeffM2501 | rather |
| 18:00.24 | gsnedders | as for people asking about webwork by me, the vast majority of the parser part of SimplePie <http://simplepie.org/> is all by me |
| 18:00.27 | brlcad | and hopefully youthfully capable to the task |
| 18:00.38 | gsnedders | http://svn.simplepie.org/simplepie/trunk/simplepie.inc is the parser |
| 18:00.46 | Erroneous | yay for youthful capability |
| 18:00.53 | brlcad | no pressure, it's not like your entire reputation is on the line |
| 18:00.56 | brlcad | *ahem* |
| 18:00.58 | gsnedders | :P |
| 18:00.59 | Erroneous | heh |
| 18:01.08 | JeffM2501 | oh mostly I just don't know yat |
| 18:01.17 | JeffM2501 | but other people I know are cool with it, then that is fine by me |
| 18:01.43 | gsnedders | I've gotta go call up my uncle to try and arrange for me to go off to France (with him and my aunt (and her French family)) over New Year |
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| 18:02.03 | JeffM2501 | it would be realy nice to store the IPs at registration time |
| 18:02.05 | JeffM2501 | REALY nice |
| 18:05.42 | JeffM2501 | how would they escape the hood? |
| 18:06.16 | Erroneous | we seem to have a lot of users named levitra and cialis |
| 18:06.35 | JeffM2501 | and why do you think I want to run said script? ;) |
| 18:06.37 | Erroneous | oddly, none of them have responded to their reg emails :) |
| 18:06.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:06.47 | JeffM2501 | they are lazy I hear |
| 18:07.06 | Erroneous | the script does not seem to work. I can list them directly though. |
| 18:07.29 | Erroneous | dunno what's wrong with the script. I hate php. |
| 18:07.39 | JeffM2501 | I thought he had a shell script |
| 18:07.48 | JeffM2501 | like all bash and sql |
| 18:07.54 | Erroneous | no, it's a php+sql thing |
| 18:07.58 | ts | PHP is not so bad..it just have a strange way to work ;) |
| 18:08.09 | ts | s/have/has |
| 18:08.16 | Erroneous | yeah, it's a commandline script, just using php :) |
| 18:08.43 | brlcad | they probably need some viagra to pep them up enough to respond to the reg emails |
| 18:08.54 | Erroneous | 190 users deleted |
| 18:09.10 | ts | lol |
| 18:09.22 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 18:09.38 | ts | How long had those been registered? |
| 18:09.40 | JeffM2501 | or they don't have enough blood in there brain to do so.. |
| 18:09.53 | JeffM2501 | IIRC the script kills any over 3 weeks |
| 18:09.56 | JeffM2501 | or there abouts |
| 18:10.14 | Erroneous | 31 days and older |
| 18:10.22 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: you know what they say....god gave man enough blood to run his brain or his penis, but not both at the same time |
| 18:10.45 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 18:11.36 | Erroneous | deletescale? |
| 18:11.41 | JeffM2501 | I seem to recall that some suvivalist guy I knew was telling me once where you go to the hospital, they take out a unit of bood, store it, and then you come back later before you go out into the wilderness, and they put it back in |
| 18:11.42 | brlcad | s/scale/stale/ |
| 18:11.44 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 18:11.45 | JeffM2501 | so you get bonus volume |
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| 18:12.35 | JeffM2501 | they fix the security problem yet? |
| 18:12.43 | brlcad | ahh, 0.5.3 |
| 18:12.57 | Erroneous | brlcad: I was working directly from mysql, so your little change wouldn't have affected me :) |
| 18:12.59 | blast007 | 0.5.6 |
| 18:12.59 | brlcad | yeah, it's fixed.. just someone (tm) needs to update |
| 18:13.13 | brlcad | er, meant 6 |
| 18:13.29 | JeffM2501 | notIt! |
| 18:13.51 | brlcad | i think JeffM2501 killed someone(tm) |
| 18:13.58 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 18:14.01 | brlcad | tossed him on his bike, buried him out in the desert |
| 18:14.07 | JeffM2501 | somone dosn't have root, and likes it :) |
| 18:14.48 | JeffM2501 | don't talk about food, I'm starvin |
| 18:15.04 | Erroneous | only 15 'til you go to lunch, right? |
| 18:15.14 | JeffM2501 | all I had for dinner was hagen das light mint choholate chip ice cream |
| 18:15.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:15.53 | Erroneous | ahh |
| 18:15.57 | JeffM2501 | wonder if we can get john callen to quit so we can get another free lunch |
| 18:16.13 | Erroneous | I had sauteed onion and mushroom mahi mahi pasta |
| 18:16.19 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 18:16.19 | Erroneous | 'twas good :) |
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| 18:16.36 | JeffM2501 | saturday night I ate well, prime rib |
| 18:16.42 | Erroneous | cool |
| 18:16.56 | JeffM2501 | we went to my grandfathers favorate resurant after his memorial |
| 18:16.58 | Erroneous | I need to go get some more mahi mahi, that was really good |
| 18:17.20 | Erroneous | aw |
| 18:17.38 | JeffM2501 | I realy should cook more |
| 18:17.56 | Erroneous | I like to cook |
| 18:18.09 | Erroneous | more importantly, I like to eat |
| 18:18.19 | Erroneous | and cooking means I choose exactly what I eat :) |
| 18:19.49 | Birdie | so you call so there comes pizza at your house? |
| 18:19.56 | SportChick | Erroneous: that sounds delicious - you should share the recipe for that |
| 18:20.36 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, just go bang on his door and have him make it for you ;) |
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| 18:20.36 | SportChick | JeffM2501: hehe |
| 18:20.36 | dryhdh | nhi |
| 18:20.40 | brlcad | nhola |
| 18:20.45 | SportChick | gah, I can't believe we all still haven't gotten together recently |
| 18:20.52 | JeffM2501 | nword! |
| 18:20.53 | dryhdh | anyone know where i can dl HTF plugin ? |
| 18:20.54 | SportChick | are you two free anytime next weekend? |
| 18:20.56 | Erroneous | SportChick: chop a small onion, smash four cloves of garlic, begin sauteeing them in olive oil, when they're about half done stick the mahi mahi in for 4 or 5 minutes/side |
| 18:21.00 | Erroneous | not that hard :) |
| 18:21.11 | SportChick | Erroneous: sounds wonderful |
| 18:21.11 | CBG | nwa's happ'nin'? |
| 18:21.12 | brlcad | hah! |
| 18:21.15 | SportChick | when did you put in the mushrooms? |
| 18:21.27 | Erroneous | ah, with the mahi mahi |
| 18:21.27 | JeffM2501 | dryhdh, most of them are mentioned on the fourms |
| 18:21.29 | JeffM2501 | with links |
| 18:21.32 | SportChick | ok |
| 18:21.47 | dryhdh | u have a link ? |
| 18:21.49 | dryhdh | :P |
| 18:21.53 | dryhdh | ive searched |
| 18:21.56 | JeffM2501 | my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 18:21.58 | dryhdh | but didnt find any |
| 18:22.02 | JeffM2501 | there are like 4 plugins |
| 18:22.06 | dryhdh | no links there |
| 18:22.12 | dryhdh | ye dead links |
| 18:22.22 | JeffM2501 | then they are dead |
| 18:22.29 | JeffM2501 | we didn't do an "official" HTF plugin |
| 18:22.38 | dryhdh | as dead as possible |
| 18:22.44 | dryhdh | u have no mirror? |
| 18:22.53 | JeffM2501 | we didn't make them, so no |
| 18:23.00 | JeffM2501 | send the autor of the dead link a PM, and ask for it |
| 18:23.13 | Pimpi | ~gsnedders++ |
| 18:23.42 | Birdie | dryhdh: ask longhair for it |
| 18:24.22 | dryhdh | ok |
| 18:24.34 | dryhdh | what if he's dead too |
| 18:24.36 | Birdie | you can find him via bzbb or a league site |
| 18:24.41 | Birdie | he wont be dead:) |
| 18:24.45 | Birdie | just maybe slow |
| 18:24.46 | dryhdh | u should create a subpage with plugins :) |
| 18:24.51 | Pimpi | dryhdh: HTF is part of the official source dirtibution |
| 18:24.55 | JeffM2501 | there is a plugins sub fourm |
| 18:25.03 | JeffM2501 | and all the ones we maintain are part of the source |
| 18:25.04 | Pimpi | distribution |
| 18:25.16 | JeffM2501 | it is? |
| 18:25.22 | JeffM2501 | well crap |
| 18:25.23 | dryhdh | didnt know that |
| 18:25.27 | JeffM2501 | we build it on windows? |
| 18:25.38 | Pimpi | unless it was purged.....yes |
| 18:25.54 | JeffM2501 | well lookit that |
| 18:26.10 | Pimpi | at least plugins/ has a directory named HoldTheFlag |
| 18:26.24 | JeffM2501 | it doe |
| 18:26.30 | Erroneous | heh |
| 18:26.48 | Erroneous | way to be on top of things JeffM2501 :) |
| 18:27.06 | JeffM2501 | I generaly only look at the ones in the main solution |
| 18:27.09 | JeffM2501 | and it wasn't added |
| 18:27.28 | JeffM2501 | and when did I become in charge of plugins? |
| 18:27.30 | Erroneous | I think I thought about adding it when I read the patch |
| 18:27.34 | Erroneous | but was too lazy |
| 18:27.42 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: when you wrote the api :) |
| 18:27.47 | JeffM2501 | damn |
| 18:28.01 | JeffM2501 | stupid API authorship |
| 18:28.05 | blast007 | :) |
| 18:28.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/MSVC/VC71/plugins.sln: up one dir level is where it's at. |
| 18:28.34 | dryhdh | is there a streamplugin ? |
| 18:28.56 | Erroneous | there's a riverplugin |
| 18:29.05 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:29.20 | dryhdh | streamplugin that i can add to my server and everyone who joins hear the shoutcast stream |
| 18:29.21 | JeffM2501 | bahh, have to fix HTF |
| 18:29.27 | dryhdh | aw |
| 18:29.33 | JeffM2501 | dryhdh, umm no |
| 18:29.37 | Erroneous | dryhdh: no, there's not |
| 18:29.38 | dryhdh | would be awesome |
| 18:29.41 | blast007 | dryhdh: nope, that's not possible for a plugin |
| 18:29.45 | blast007 | as of yet, anyway |
| 18:29.45 | dryhdh | y not |
| 18:29.46 | JeffM2501 | the game protocoll does not support streaming audio |
| 18:29.51 | JeffM2501 | nor does the client |
| 18:29.55 | JeffM2501 | nor the server |
| 18:29.58 | JeffM2501 | nor anythying |
| 18:30.06 | JeffM2501 | your welcome to write one |
| 18:30.20 | dryhdh | hmpf |
| 18:30.26 | dryhdh | should be possible |
| 18:30.36 | dryhdh | not the same protocol |
| 18:30.43 | blast007 | it's not possible if someone doesn't write it in |
| 18:31.30 | dryhdh | u could use the same plugin for 'teamspeak' |
| 18:32.10 | blast007 | dryhdh: plugins are server side, not client side |
| 18:32.29 | dryhdh | well.. server needs to accept it |
| 18:32.36 | dryhdh | client side need to be modded too |
| 18:32.47 | dryhdh | maybe for a next release |
| 18:32.50 | dryhdh | hah |
| 18:32.53 | JeffM2501 | the server and client "need" to do a lot of stuff |
| 18:33.02 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/HoldTheFlag/HoldTheFlag.cpp: windows don't got no strcasecmp |
| 18:33.33 | Erroneous | yay for _stricmp |
| 18:33.44 | JeffM2501 | realy should just put that in the header |
| 18:33.50 | Erroneous | we don't need no silly standards |
| 18:33.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/MSVC/VC71/plugins.sln: build htf with the default plugins |
| 18:34.09 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: someone once suggested that you include common.h, I think |
| 18:34.17 | Erroneous | which would catch all of that |
| 18:34.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah, but I don't want to do that |
| 18:34.28 | JeffM2501 | cus then we need config, and a TON of other files |
| 18:34.37 | Erroneous | no, just common.h and config.h |
| 18:34.38 | JeffM2501 | and the goal is to not need the full bzflag source to build a pluign |
| 18:35.00 | JeffM2501 | so far thats the only thing we've hit |
| 18:35.09 | JeffM2501 | does VC8 have the function? |
| 18:35.17 | Erroneous | mmmm |
| 18:35.20 | Erroneous | no, I don't think |
| 18:35.33 | JeffM2501 | if it realy is part of the standard I'd think it would |
| 18:35.34 | Thumper_ | Hey jeff... |
| 18:35.39 | JeffM2501 | hey Thumper_ |
| 18:35.59 | Thumper_ | your fix to HoldTheFlag.cpp - wouldn't that be better in the api include file or someplace so you don't hav eto do it more than once? |
| 18:36.10 | JeffM2501 | dude, read up |
| 18:36.13 | JeffM2501 | like seriously |
| 18:36.16 | Thumper_ | ok :) sorry |
| 18:37.35 | JeffM2501 | techincaly to follow the "bzapi" way I should make a bz_strcasecmp and epose that |
| 18:38.11 | JeffM2501 | hmm, actualy the header has it |
| 18:38.17 | JeffM2501 | #ifndef strcasecmp |
| 18:38.17 | JeffM2501 | #define strcasecmp stricmp |
| 18:38.17 | JeffM2501 | #endif |
| 18:38.35 | JeffM2501 | well I'll look at it later and see why it isn't use it |
| 18:38.49 | JeffM2501 | probalby just need the n version too |
| 18:38.52 | JeffM2501 | food time :) |
| 18:39.48 | gsnedders | Pimpi: I guess my karma is finally more than 0 :P |
| 18:43.33 | Manu | ~gsnedders++ |
| 18:43.46 | gsnedders | Manu: I guess my karma is finally more than 1 :P |
| 18:43.56 | Manu | :) |
| 18:44.28 | gsnedders | and seeming you and Pimpi are being kind to me… :) |
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| 19:00.06 | CBG | Lasermania Party! louman.bzflag.bz:2807 |
| 19:23.41 | gsnedders | Pimpi, Manu: is it > 20% teamkills you get kicked for, or >=? |
| 19:25.47 | Manu | gsnedders: greater |
| 19:25.57 | gsnedders | Manu: thanks |
| 19:28.21 | CBG | so one tk in every 5 kills is ok? ;) |
| 19:28.27 | CBG | seems like a lot |
| 19:30.20 | Birdie | if some one is "banned" from bzbb (but still has his nick), can he identifies on servers? |
| 19:31.33 | Erroneous | depends on what you mean by banned |
| 19:31.54 | Erroneous | we usually just deny permission to post |
| 19:32.53 | Erroneous | bb ip bans also do not affect registered players from being validated |
| 19:34.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 19:34.41 | *** topic/#bzflag by Erroneous -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || Condolences to lilo's friends, family, the PDPC, and the Freenode network at large for his passing. Rest in peace, lilo, during your final /part. |
| 19:34.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o Erroneous] by Erroneous |
| 19:37.09 | Birdie | emailbans and ip bans is what i'm talking about |
| 19:37.13 | Birdie | (on bzbb site) |
| 19:37.48 | Manu | CBG: not exactly, there is a grace time when you start |
| 19:38.08 | CBG | Manu: aii.. |
| 19:38.32 | CBG | Seems that the 20% should be grace time and more like 10% after that. |
| 19:38.35 | Erroneous | yes, you can still identify when banned from the bb |
| 19:39.33 | Erroneous | we have a lot of large ranges banned on the bb. we do not want to do the same for the game. |
| 19:39.45 | Manu | CBG: your 2 first tks are free ;) |
| 19:41.34 | Erroneous | aww |
| 19:41.43 | Erroneous | that means I still have two free! |
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| 19:42.21 | CBG | !lart Erroneous |
| 19:42.47 | CBG | !lart Manu |
| 19:43.08 | Manu | ~kick CBG |
| 19:43.10 | ibot | bugger off, manu! |
| 19:43.15 | Manu | rofl |
| 19:43.21 | CBG | hehe |
| 19:43.27 | CBG | !lart Erroneous |
| 19:44.26 | CBG | same for you. :P |
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| 19:44.32 | CBG | !part astalavista |
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| 19:44.37 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:44.45 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o Erroneous] by Erroneous |
| 19:44.46 | Manu | CBG: is hasta. not asta |
| 19:45.14 | CBG | yeah, but I dropped the h and forgot the ' :P |
| 19:45.33 | CBG | plus I had to be quick.. no time to proof read |
| 19:48.46 | gsnedders | Manu: that's been changed to two? oh… |
| 19:49.06 | Manu | gsnedders: no |
| 19:49.34 | gsnedders | Manu: so Pimpi was wrong when he said it was three? |
| 19:49.48 | Manu | gsnedders: three what? |
| 19:49.58 | Erroneous | tks |
| 19:50.14 | gsnedders | Manu: grace tks. |
| 19:50.40 | Manu | gsnedders: nope, simply you don't get kicked untill your 3th because the percentage |
| 19:56.32 | gsnedders | Manu: what percentage? with 0 kills you're dividing by 0… |
| 19:57.52 | Manu | gsnedders: 20% of your score |
| 19:58.02 | Manu | your kills I mean |
| 19:58.38 | Manu | gsnedders: I said yours 2 first tk are free not 3 |
| 19:58.45 | gsnedders | Manu: but if you just have 3 tks, then you divide 3 tks by 0 kills, and you can't divide by 0 |
| 19:58.52 | gsnedders | same applies for any number :P |
| 19:59.04 | brlcad | if they can't access bzbb at all, they may be firewalled |
| 19:59.08 | Manu | gsnedders: lol.. you don't hear me |
| 19:59.10 | CBG | divide by 0 tends to infinity |
| 19:59.15 | Manu | it's the 20% of the kills |
| 19:59.19 | CBG | last I checked, infinity is greater than 20% |
| 19:59.19 | Manu | 20% of 0 is 0 |
| 19:59.22 | gsnedders | Manu: of all kills? |
| 19:59.35 | Manu | the sum of the kills |
| 19:59.47 | gsnedders | Manu: of valid kills? |
| 19:59.49 | Erroneous | does it really matter anyway? |
| 20:00.09 | gsnedders | Erroneous: yes, because Manu has got me confused :P |
| 20:00.10 | Manu | gsnedders: lol |
| 20:00.15 | Erroneous | if you tk too much, you get kicked...are we trying to figure out how to tk as much as possible without getting kicked or what? :D |
| 20:00.21 | Manu | you are always confused gsnedders |
| 20:00.29 | CBG | Erroneous: of course. |
| 20:00.29 | Manu | don't blame o n me ;) |
| 20:00.38 | gsnedders | Manu: stop making me tk you! |
| 20:00.39 | gsnedders | :D |
| 20:00.57 | Manu | Erroneous: he is simply kidding |
| 20:01.17 | Erroneous | heh |
| 20:01.26 | Manu | he is a kid ;) |
| 20:01.37 | gsnedders | thererfore, I kid a lot |
| 20:01.43 | gsnedders | </bad></joke> |
| 20:02.04 | Manu | gsnedders: it's very easy.. if you tk and the server doesn't kick you.. I'll do it :p |
| 20:02.06 | gsnedders | well, actually, maybe I'd use <joke type="bad">, so maybe just </joke> |
| 20:02.12 | gsnedders | Manu: :P |
| 20:03.24 | Erroneous | ~manu++ |
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| 20:13.30 | JeffM2501 | mmm sweet and sour goodnes :) |
| 20:18.15 | Pimpi | gsnedders: dunno if it?s still like that, but at least there used to be 2 "grace" tks |
| 20:18.59 | Pimpi | so you wouldn?t get kicked for tking unless you had at least 3 of them, regardless of the percentage |
| 20:19.37 | gsnedders | Pimpi: that's what I though |
| 20:20.17 | Pimpi | well, at least as long as Manu isn?t around... |
| 20:23.11 | Manu | hehe |
| 20:23.36 | Manu | Pimpi: is what I said.. 2 are free. you are kicked with your wth |
| 20:23.42 | Manu | 3th |
| 20:24.13 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, generaly when I ban by IP, I also disable the known account, so that prevents global registration |
| 20:24.41 | JeffM2501 | there is never just a flat IP ban with out some other action ( deactivation or deletion of an account ). |
| 20:25.27 | JeffM2501 | there is a class B ban in effect now, so if someone says they can't get in, have em e-mail me and I can except them |
| 20:25.27 | JeffM2501 | or narrow the range |
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| 20:30.53 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: does the list server check against the disabled flag when doing auth? |
| 20:30.59 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 20:31.02 | Erroneous | k |
| 20:31.36 | JeffM2501 | otherwise noone would ever have to hit the e-mail link |
| 20:31.53 | Erroneous | iirc we have several other very broad bans also, not just your most recent class b |
| 20:32.00 | Erroneous | like if manchuria is still banned |
| 20:32.05 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:32.24 | JeffM2501 | so far I only know of one user who has an outstanding ban issue |
| 20:32.34 | JeffM2501 | and they are geting me the proper IP |
| 20:32.40 | Erroneous | he's not manchurian is he? :) |
| 20:32.50 | JeffM2501 | new zeland IIRC |
| 20:32.55 | Erroneous | ah |
| 20:33.14 | JeffM2501 | I ban a lot of class Cs for spam |
| 20:33.50 | Erroneous | I banned north korea too, iirc. Made me feel powerful. |
| 20:34.51 | Erroneous | probably illegal for them to play anyway, and the spam was getting annoying |
| 20:35.20 | PuMpErNiCkLe | NK has internet now? |
| 20:36.17 | Erroneous | they have for some time |
| 20:36.32 | Erroneous | the gov't uses it for cyberwarfare, for one thing |
| 20:41.08 | JeffM2501 | NK is atacking the tubes!!?!?!?! |
| 20:41.11 | JeffM2501 | damn them |
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| 21:31.52 | Guest911 | hello? |
| 21:32.02 | Guest911 | anyone here? |
| 21:32.04 | blast007 | yes |
| 21:32.10 | brlcad | ~ask |
| 21:32.21 | ibot | ask is, like, Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 21:32.22 | Guest911 | you play bzflag rite |
| 21:32.22 | blast007 | Guest911: sure |
| 21:32.31 | tannerld | that was slow for a bot :D |
| 21:32.41 | brlcad | it happens |
| 21:32.41 | Guest911 | wow what a dick |
| 21:32.51 | brlcad | watch your language please |
| 21:33.04 | Guest911 | oh my bad didn't relise that |
| 21:34.13 | blast007 | Guest911: so do you have a question? |
| 21:34.35 | Guest911 | well not after being flamed at |
| 21:34.45 | blast007 | you weren't flamed |
| 21:34.45 | tannerld | ? |
| 21:34.51 | brlcad | that wasn't a flaming |
| 21:35.06 | brlcad | just letting you know about the channel protocol, so you can perhaps not repeat it next time |
| 21:35.19 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I have yd's latest nick |
| 21:35.52 | SportChick | aYoNyAyo11 |
| 21:35.57 | brlcad | oops |
| 21:36.10 | Birdie | how long did you studied to type that name:) |
| 21:36.18 | SportChick | annoying isn't it? |
| 21:36.28 | SportChick | the last two letters MIGHT be ll and not 11, not sure |
| 21:38.07 | Birdie | i think 11 if you look to his profile page |
| 21:38.33 | SportChick | kk |
| 21:39.49 | Erroneous | Guest911: if you'd like to be flamed at, we can arrange that too... |
| 21:39.53 | Erroneous | aw, he left |
| 21:40.02 | Erroneous | dang timing |
| 21:40.07 | SportChick | Birdie: can you get the ip for that crazy nick please? |
| 21:40.21 | Birdie | jeff has it |
| 21:40.47 | SportChick | ah ok |
| 21:40.48 | SportChick | thanks |
| 21:41.44 | Birdie | np |
| 21:42.13 | Birdie | yd only has two ip"s, i found that out some days ago, and i was rather late with that:) |
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| 22:10.35 | hardwire | yo :) anybody in AK? |
| 22:12.20 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I may be getting it irght now |
| 22:12.24 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 22:12.29 | SportChick | I have someone checking |
| 22:12.37 | JeffM2501 | there is no rush |
| 22:13.37 | SportChick | there is if you don't want me to forget all about it :) |
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| 22:15.01 | SportChick | wiz |
| 22:15.08 | SportChick | wizart: jeff is the one who needs it :) |
| 22:15.22 | wizart | k |
| 22:15.28 | SportChick | JeffM2501: 69.119.240.73 |
| 22:15.53 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 22:17.49 | JeffM2501 | he must be reging using a proxy, then playing on his own |
| 22:20.54 | SportChick | I don't know |
| 22:21.27 | JeffM2501 | we could do a class B ban at the list server level |
| 22:21.36 | JeffM2501 | but tha'ts a bit harsh |
| 22:21.44 | JeffM2501 | think it's waranted? |
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| 22:24.33 | SportChick | JeffM2501: hard to say. You were the one saying they had started cracking down on coppa |
| 22:24.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:24.50 | JeffM2501 | and we are deleting his info as fast as we find out |
| 22:24.51 | SportChick | frankly, this guy has caused enough trouble, I would think it'd be warranted |
| 22:24.56 | JeffM2501 | that' is good neoguh for the law |
| 22:25.01 | SportChick | but it's not my call |
| 22:25.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah the ban would be for non coppa reasons |
| 22:25.14 | JeffM2501 | just because he's being an ass |
| 22:27.46 | SportChick | people have been banned for less :) |
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| 22:34.49 | TD-Linux | Would it be legal to hack phpBB more and allow users to sign up without gaining access to the forums? |
| 22:35.08 | TD-Linux | I mean, legal for people under 13 to do that without parental permission. |
| 22:36.30 | L4m3r | TD-Linux: yes, but it'd be suicide from a security standpoint |
| 22:36.58 | L4m3r | theoretically it would be possible for people to register without leaving any data, but that's a problem in itself... |
| 22:37.06 | TD-Linux | would requiring email-verification break COPPA rules? |
| 22:37.25 | L4m3r | no, but I would think that storing the email to do so would ;) |
| 22:38.02 | TD-Linux | hmm. |
| 22:38.17 | TD-Linux | What if we used the BZFlag client for such registration? |
| 22:38.35 | TD-Linux | oh wait |
| 22:38.35 | L4m3r | it'd make little difference |
| 22:38.40 | TD-Linux | I see. |
| 22:38.47 | TD-Linux | :/ |
| 22:38.59 | L4m3r | there's really reason not to use COPPA |
| 22:39.04 | L4m3r | no reason* |
| 22:39.49 | L4m3r | if a kid can't get his parents' permission to play the game, chances are we don't want to be dealing with him anyway |
| 22:41.04 | hardwire | COPPA? |
| 22:42.48 | brlcad | ~coppa |
| 22:42.49 | ibot | from memory, coppa is the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, see http://www.coppa.org/ |
| 22:43.06 | hardwire | you dirty coppa.. why I aughta |
| 22:43.33 | hardwire | yup.. i'm a funny guy.. sorry.. |
| 22:43.47 | a_meteorite | dirty coppa? what am I missing? |
| 22:44.09 | a_meteorite | ~dict coppa |
| 22:44.15 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 22:46.02 | L4m3r | a_meteorite: don't worry, it only covers those under 13, it does not care how naive you are ;) |
| 22:46.27 | a_meteorite | ah, that's right |
| 22:46.35 | a_meteorite | I forgot the coppa doesn't include a mental capacity test |
| 22:46.59 | hardwire | does that matter? |
| 22:47.12 | a_meteorite | yes, do you want a mental psychpath playing bzflag? |
| 22:47.19 | L4m3r | of course, if it covered those with a "mental age" under 13, we'd lose about half the players |
| 22:47.21 | hardwire | uhm.. yes.. |
| 22:47.23 | a_meteorite | that could get ugly |
| 22:47.40 | a_meteorite | L4m3r: sadly, naive doesn't fit under that category ;) |
| 22:47.51 | L4m3r | but immature does ;) |
| 22:48.02 | a_meteorite | whoops, doesn't apply there |
| 22:48.06 | hardwire | having a psychopathic murderer in a session would be kinda interesting |
| 22:48.19 | a_meteorite | "HAHA PWNED JOO NOOB!!!!" |
| 22:48.32 | a_meteorite | ^ the psychopath murderer |
| 22:48.36 | hardwire | as long as we quota in one psychologist as well |
| 22:48.47 | hardwire | and hook both to heart monitors |
| 22:48.59 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 22:49.06 | hardwire | oooh.. that would be cool.. is there any emerging tech for recieving your heart rate from health watches? |
| 22:49.24 | hardwire | if so.. I think BPM should be in the scorelist |
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| 22:52.56 | hardwire | cmon.. the faster the BPM.. the more shots you have over the normal amount |
| 22:53.13 | hardwire | its kill or be killed style man |
| 22:55.09 | hardwire | http://www.mypulsemonitor.com/products.html |
| 22:55.10 | hardwire | sweet |
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| 23:06.46 | brlcad | that would give people like me a nice advantage.. |
| 23:07.34 | brlcad | yay for slight tachyarrhythmia |
| 23:08.32 | shorty114 | ah |
| 23:08.36 | brlcad | higher than normal heart rate |
| 23:09.08 | spldart | Question: "Logging Player T.H [5] tank too fast (tank: 41.741750, allowed: 26.516504){Dead or v[z] != 0}" appears 134 times in my log from a busy battle on my server's log... That seems substantial evidence of cheating... Is that a safe assumption? |
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| 23:19.56 | KyleH | my newly compiled bzflag (on a recent Debian etch) will not recognise alsa (I have no sound) |
| 23:19.59 | KyleH | any advice? |
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| 23:23.40 | brlcad | KyleH: read the bottom of README.Linux |
| 23:23.45 | supertanker | oh god my fingers hurt |
| 23:24.07 | KyleH | I also found this: |
| 23:24.07 | KyleH | Replacing |
| 23:24.08 | KyleH | libsdl1.2debian-alsa with libsdl1.2debian-all solves it. |
| 23:26.09 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, yes people have, when they were on static IPs. if he was on static it'd be an easy call. but he's not |
| 23:26.27 | JeffM2501 | so are his transgresions bad enough to warant posibly baning a real player |
| 23:26.40 | KyleH | brlcad: perhaps I'm missing something; but README.Linux just says that "some drivers are not supported" in so many words. |
| 23:29.22 | brlcad | on cvs head perhaps |
| 23:29.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/README.Linux: KyleH reports that you might also find positive results replacing libsdl1.2debian-alsa with libsdl1.2debian-all |
| 23:33.21 | KyleH | cool - I'm recompiling now to check this note |
| 23:34.48 | JeffM2501 | I've seen people work with swaping from alsa sdl to oss ( or what ever the other one is ) |
| 23:35.00 | JeffM2501 | they have both packages in there repos |
| 23:35.39 | KyleH | yes, "all" is one, then alsa, arts, esd, nas, and oss. I've never heard of "nas" |
| 23:37.18 | spldart | Any opinions on my query above? |
| 23:37.46 | JeffM2501 | spldart, you have any physics drivers? |
| 23:37.53 | spldart | None |
| 23:37.58 | spldart | And it' |
| 23:38.02 | spldart | s the only player |
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| 23:38.12 | JeffM2501 | then it probably is |
| 23:38.15 | spldart | thank you |
| 23:39.03 | spldart | Should I give the ip here for other server op's reference? |
| 23:39.19 | JeffM2501 | not realy what IRC is for |
| 23:39.22 | spldart | ok |
| 23:39.28 | hardwire | physics drivers? |
| 23:39.30 | JeffM2501 | I'd ban, see if they go elsewhere, if it becomes a larger problem |
| 23:39.40 | JeffM2501 | hardwire, yeah, they can affect speed |
| 23:39.46 | hardwire | weird |
| 23:39.49 | JeffM2501 | not realy |
| 23:39.55 | a_meteorite | I'd like it if it was a serious offense.. just PM it to me |
| 23:39.55 | spldart | I've had phy drv before and disable in those cases |
| 23:39.57 | hardwire | like.. what are you referring to? |
| 23:39.59 | JeffM2501 | the speed check dosn't realy take them into account |
| 23:40.02 | spldart | this map no though |
| 23:40.03 | JeffM2501 | it's a map feature |
| 23:40.19 | JeffM2501 | a surface atribute that can apply changes to the tanks momentum |
| 23:40.23 | hardwire | are you talking about hacked bz clients? |
| 23:40.23 | JeffM2501 | had it since 2.0 |
| 23:40.26 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 23:40.28 | hardwire | oooh |
| 23:40.40 | hardwire | gotcha |
| 23:40.41 | JeffM2501 | well in his case, yes, because he has no phyDrivs |
| 23:41.04 | hardwire | :) |
| 23:41.04 | JeffM2501 | if he had phydrivs then that would be one reason he got that message |
| 23:41.18 | hardwire | bzflag is going to be an uber realistic totally fake game soon |
| 23:41.28 | JeffM2501 | I don't think so |
| 23:41.47 | hardwire | "so.. where are the enemy soldiers?" .. "there are none" .. "so what am I doing?" .. "drive or die man.. thats all" |
| 23:42.06 | hardwire | you want some texture gfx support? |
| 23:42.09 | hardwire | I would love to make another tank model |
| 23:42.18 | JeffM2501 | the current tank is hardcoded |
| 23:42.24 | hardwire | I lost the one I made a long time ago |
| 23:42.35 | hardwire | yeh.. it was a bitch to put into the code for me. |
| 23:42.41 | JeffM2501 | and textures can be refrenecd in the map and pulled from the web |
| 23:42.45 | hardwire | s/curse/noncurse/.. |
| 23:42.58 | hardwire | thats true |
| 23:43.45 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 23:43.50 | hardwire | it was an interesting client hack atleast.. on my side |
| 23:43.58 | hardwire | lots of spiders floating around like they were frozen |
| 23:44.06 | hardwire | except the legs brought it to high for where the turret was |
| 23:44.17 | hardwire | so that was placed in a very.. naughty.. weird place |
| 23:44.24 | hardwire | so it didn't fly all that well i guess |
| 23:44.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah other tank models will bring a lot of other issues into play |
| 23:44.52 | JeffM2501 | like turret height |
| 23:45.10 | JeffM2501 | and how that effect flags like burrow, tiny, obese, etc.. |
| 23:45.18 | JeffM2501 | as well as ColorBind and masquerade |
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| 23:54.35 | hardwire | JeffM2501: thats true |
| 23:54.56 | hardwire | all models would have to be at the existing extents |
| 23:55.31 | hardwire | if you ever felt like making a different model size there would have to be a normal.. and one already large.. one already small.. each with different physics |
| 23:55.36 | hardwire | much like every other game in the planet |
| 23:56.53 | JeffM2501 | even in the same size, you have to decide what to do with CB and MQ |
| 23:57.16 | JeffM2501 | if your tank is the only one with that model, then changing the color is pointless |
| 23:58.33 | JeffM2501 | all the "mind affecting" flags would be diminished in efectiveness once people can have difrent models |
| 23:59.04 | JeffM2501 | cb you could do by changing everyone to one model, cus it only affects the person with the flag |
| 23:59.06 | KyleH | ok, for those who are interested; replacing libsdl1.2debian-alsa with libsdl1.2debian-all fixed my sound issue in Debian Etch |
| 23:59.08 | JeffM2501 | MQ is the hard one |