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| 00:18.46 | brlcad | ooh, Bad Behavior |
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| 00:26.07 | JonathanD | hi |
| 00:27.57 | SportChick | hi JonathanD |
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| 00:42.51 | JonathanD | ok |
| 00:43.01 | JonathanD | my girlfriend wants to play BZ |
| 00:43.11 | JonathanD | when she starts it up, her laptop freezes |
| 00:43.59 | brlcad | turn off lighting |
| 00:44.15 | JonathanD | can't change any settins. |
| 00:44.24 | JonathanD | it freezes at teh main menu. |
| 00:44.32 | JonathanD | she has to hard power off |
| 00:44.43 | brlcad | edit the config file and set lighting to off |
| 00:44.52 | brlcad | what kind of laptop? |
| 00:44.52 | JonathanD | oh this'll be fun :p |
| 00:44.56 | JonathanD | gateway |
| 00:45.03 | JonathanD | radeon xpress 200m graphics |
| 00:45.14 | brlcad | which OS? |
| 00:45.22 | JonathanD | XP media (I think) |
| 00:45.23 | JonathanD | or home |
| 00:45.30 | brlcad | hmmm |
| 00:45.47 | brlcad | i wouldn't expect windows to have the lighting problem, but easy to test out |
| 00:45.58 | brlcad | could also be a power/heat problem |
| 00:46.03 | DTRemenak | upgrade your drivers |
| 00:46.09 | JonathanD | DTRemenak: that makes sense |
| 00:46.55 | JonathanD | I wanna be pretty sure |
| 00:47.00 | JonathanD | cause I' mtalking to her online |
| 00:47.10 | JonathanD | and she'll freeze if I'm wrong. |
| 00:47.37 | brlcad | worth updating the driver *regardless* of any problems usually |
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| 00:47.53 | JonathanD | true enough |
| 00:47.54 | DTRemenak | brlcad: indubitibly, but ati's drivers are notorious for such issues |
| 00:47.57 | JonathanD | unless it breaks things :p |
| 00:48.06 | JonathanD | then I'll get blamed |
| 00:48.14 | DTRemenak | shouldn't break anything, ati is improving their drivers |
| 00:48.15 | JonathanD | and she'll be laptopless til I can get out there and fix it |
| 00:48.18 | brlcad | well it's already clearly your fault |
| 00:48.19 | DTRemenak | if it breaks, blame me :P |
| 00:48.30 | JonathanD | no, DTRemenak, cause updating drivers never causes problems ;) |
| 00:48.41 | DTRemenak | if it succeeds, you can take credit...win/win :) |
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| 00:53.20 | zeroshard | hello, does anyone here use the mac os x 2.0.8 client? |
| 00:53.34 | a_meteorite | I do |
| 00:53.50 | zeroshard | any idea when we will be able to see the shots from other players on the minimap? |
| 00:54.01 | a_meteorite | you using an intel mac? |
| 00:54.17 | brlcad | er |
| 00:54.26 | brlcad | you should be able to |
| 00:54.33 | zeroshard | yes.. intel mac |
| 00:54.37 | a_meteorite | brlcad: I've heard you can't see them on the Intel Macs |
| 00:54.43 | zeroshard | you cant |
| 00:54.47 | a_meteorite | yeah, it seems to be something only exhibited on Intel Macs... |
| 00:54.50 | zeroshard | i even ran the ppc version via rosetta |
| 00:55.09 | a_meteorite | everyone I've talked to with an Intel Mac can't, brlcad :P |
| 00:55.32 | zeroshard | brlcad what os are you using? |
| 00:55.34 | brlcad | oh, I don't not believe that you don't.. just curious |
| 00:55.35 | DTRemenak | a_meteorite: that statement is no longer true |
| 00:55.49 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:55.51 | a_meteorite | DTRemenak: is it fixed in CVS then? |
| 00:55.55 | DTRemenak | I dunno |
| 00:55.59 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 00:56.00 | DTRemenak | but if brlcad sees them |
| 00:56.01 | brlcad | whoosh over his head |
| 00:56.10 | DTRemenak | and brlcad has an intel mac |
| 00:56.10 | brlcad | :) |
| 00:56.14 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 00:56.17 | a_meteorite | well, something must be different between brlcad's and the others |
| 00:56.27 | brlcad | magic ju ju juice |
| 00:56.31 | zeroshard | brlcad are you on a intel mac? |
| 00:56.47 | brlcad | hmm.. i might have compiled that copy from scratch .. don't recall |
| 00:57.04 | brlcad | zeroshard: a variety, that's one of them and a preferred, yes |
| 00:57.56 | brlcad | zeroshard: it'll be fixed by the next release |
| 00:58.38 | brlcad | regardless of how the cookie crumbles.. mm cookies |
| 01:04.05 | JonathanD | just fyi :P |
| 01:04.10 | JonathanD | regarding status of previous |
| 01:04.12 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> unless it breaks things :p |
| 01:04.12 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> then I'll get blamed |
| 01:04.12 | JonathanD | 20:47 <+DTRemenak> shouldn't break anything, ati is improving their drivers |
| 01:04.12 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> and she'll be laptopless til I can get out there and fix it |
| 01:04.15 | JonathanD | 20:47 <@brlcad> well it's already clearly your fault |
| 01:04.17 | JonathanD | 20:47 <+DTRemenak> if it breaks, blame me :P |
| 01:04.20 | JonathanD | oops.... |
| 01:04.21 | a_meteorite | ack |
| 01:04.22 | JonathanD | sorry folks |
| 01:04.25 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> unless it breaks things :p |
| 01:04.27 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> then I'll get blamed |
| 01:04.30 | JonathanD | 20:47 <+DTRemenak> shouldn't break anything, ati is improving their drivers |
| 01:04.30 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 01:04.32 | JonathanD | 20:47 < JonathanD> and she'll be laptopless til I can get out there and fix it |
| 01:04.34 | JonathanD | 20:47 <@brlcad> well it's already clearly your fault |
| 01:04.37 | JonathanD | 20:47 <+DTRemenak> if it breaks, blame me :P |
| 01:04.39 | JonathanD | ahh!!! |
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| 01:04.52 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 01:04.58 | JonathanD | nik says: If it breaks imma blame all of ya |
| 01:04.58 | DTRemenak | nice timing on stopping, btw |
| 01:05.03 | JonathanD | DTRemenak: sorry bout that |
| 01:05.07 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 01:05.08 | JonathanD | I was trying to paste THTA |
| 01:05.13 | DTRemenak | just denied me my kick :) |
| 01:05.15 | JonathanD | but apparently ctrl-c is broken |
| 01:05.43 | brlcad | indeed |
| 01:06.13 | brlcad | trying to CYA eh? |
| 01:07.25 | DTRemenak | ~wtf cya |
| 01:07.54 | brlcad | ~cya |
| 01:07.55 | ibot | somebody said cya was Cover Your Ass |
| 01:08.04 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 01:08.07 | DTRemenak | that makes more sense |
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| 01:09.46 | JonathanD | brlcad: pretty much |
| 01:09.52 | JonathanD | give her someone else to blame :P |
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| 01:13.46 | JonathanD | besides, brlcad, it's all your fault. |
| 01:14.01 | brlcad | it usually is |
| 01:14.34 | JonathanD | should add a factoid for that |
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| 03:43.24 | shorty114 | uhh how do you get bzflag out of windowed mode? |
| 03:43.41 | brlcad | same key that got you into it |
| 03:43.51 | shorty114 | well, i don't know how i got into it... |
| 03:43.57 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:44.03 | shorty114 | :\ |
| 03:44.18 | brlcad | fortunately, there's only .. 101 keys on your keyboard right? :) |
| 03:44.28 | shorty114 | f1 |
| 03:44.31 | shorty114 | thanks for the help.... ;) |
| 03:44.33 | brlcad | ;) |
| 03:44.45 | brlcad | anytime |
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| 04:10.48 | shorty114 | would you call 5 v 6 uneven in ctf? |
| 04:10.53 | shorty114 | uneven enough not to cap the flag? |
| 04:11.13 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Not personally. |
| 04:11.30 | shorty114 | i mean, 9 v 6 is uneven, but 5 v 6... |
| 04:11.59 | PuMpErNiCkLe | There are some servers that have very specific rules about CTF. |
| 04:15.38 | shorty114 | eh is the list server down? |
| 04:16.33 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Doesn't seem to be. |
| 04:16.49 | shorty114 | i can't get to the server list or get globally identified :\ |
| 04:27.24 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 04:28.50 | brlcad | the server list shouldn't be down for more than 60 seconds at this point at worst, if even that .. more frequently it'll be down for 10 seconds every hour or so though for reasons mentioned earlier |
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| 11:11.31 | SportChick | m.b.o seems to be down |
| 11:31.06 | Manu | SportChick: up again |
| 11:31.16 | SportChick | hi Manu |
| 11:31.18 | SportChick | yep :) |
| 11:31.30 | Manu | apache server was down :( |
| 11:32.07 | SportChick | ahhh did you restart? |
| 11:32.22 | Manu | yes |
| 11:32.30 | SportChick | ty :) |
| 11:32.35 | Manu | :) |
| 11:33.02 | Manu | SportChick: you also can restart it |
| 11:33.05 | Manu | I guess |
| 11:33.27 | SportChick | Manu: in theory, but I havne't been given instruction on that yet |
| 11:33.35 | SportChick | so for the moment, I don't dare mess with stuff |
| 11:33.47 | Manu | ah :) |
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| 12:41.27 | brlcad | odd, somehow two apache's ended up running |
| 12:45.25 | LePoulpe303 | hi bzworld |
| 12:46.04 | brad | hi LePoulpe |
| 12:46.46 | Manu | brlcad: with the restart.. probably |
| 12:52.31 | LePoulpe303 | is there any bzflag related project that needs python skills ? |
| 12:52.48 | LePoulpe303 | i know a little python and would be ahappy to contribute |
| 12:55.04 | Manu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:07.26 | RatOmeter | we don't have any trouble with Apaches here in Oklahoma. sometimes when the Poncas or Pawnees have been out drinking though... |
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| 13:16.24 | ibunny | manu manu |
| 13:16.46 | Manu | ibunny ibunny |
| 13:16.59 | ibunny | manu manu |
| 13:17.24 | Manu | ibunny ibunny * 10^nan |
| 13:18.19 | ibunny | :D |
| 13:18.58 | ibunny | manu oreo mmmm* |
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| 17:15.11 | gsnedders | brlcad: I'm just about to go off and have supper, but if you have the time, could you set up what's needed (to upgrade the fora)? |
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| 17:16.57 | ibunny | the bunny is in DA house. |
| 17:18.29 | ibunny | its ok, relax i dont want to make all of you speechless! |
| 17:18.31 | ibunny | ;) |
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| 18:14.43 | blast007 | gsnedders: I think the needed mods are as follows: attachment mod, quick reply mod, custim mod to give the template the username (for the Chat button), and mod to restrict the member list to registered users |
| 18:14.51 | blast007 | custom* |
| 18:17.51 | gsnedders | blast007: do you have a MOD file, or a patch file, for the custom MOD? |
| 18:20.20 | blast007 | no, but I could probably locate the modifications in the current code base |
| 18:20.30 | blast007 | I think it's like a single line change |
| 18:20.39 | gsnedders | ah, then I'll find it myself. |
| 18:24.31 | blast007 | it's a mod to includes/page_header.php |
| 18:25.05 | blast007 | after: 'PRIVMSG_IMG' => $icon_pm, |
| 18:25.09 | blast007 | add: 'U_USERNAME' => $userdata['username'], |
| 18:25.15 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 18:40.38 | gsnedders | and then used in overall_header.tpl, I assume |
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| 20:14.51 | blast007 | gsnedders: yup |
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| 20:22.15 | tannerld | is there a command in bzadmin to get a custom email line? |
| 20:23.37 | blast007 | tannerld: nope |
| 20:23.40 | blast007 | it's hard coded |
| 20:24.00 | tannerld | ah |
| 20:24.22 | tannerld | thanks |
| 20:24.26 | blast007 | np |
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| 20:47.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03amcnabb * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): Added --enable-bzrobots to configure script (defaults to off) |
| 20:50.38 | TD-Linux | is 2.1 going to assume you support blending? |
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| 20:56.37 | TD-Linux | 2.1 crashes if you set _shotSpeed to 0. |
| 20:56.45 | TD-Linux | not crashes, freezes. |
| 20:57.11 | Birdie | you will make them more happy if you say you fixed that, than by just reporting it;) |
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| 21:14.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03amcnabb * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsClientMessages.cxx bzfsMessages.cxx bzfsMessages.h): Checking in a bug-fix that should have been part of yesterday's commit. Sorry. |
| 21:23.29 | Erroneous | TD-Linux: yes, and that's ok, we don't protect against invalid bzbb values |
| 21:23.35 | Erroneous | don't set it to that :) |
| 21:23.47 | Erroneous | the "yes" was for assuming blending |
| 21:24.47 | romfis | geh |
| 21:25.02 | Erroneous | geh? |
| 21:25.06 | romfis | :D |
| 21:25.36 | romfis | gah is better, or? :P |
| 21:25.43 | Erroneous | gah? |
| 21:25.45 | romfis | lol |
| 21:25.48 | romfis | kk |
| 21:25.50 | romfis | ;) |
| 21:25.57 | Erroneous | ... |
| 21:26.01 | romfis | .... |
| 21:26.10 | Erroneous | ..... |
| 21:26.13 | romfis | ...... |
| 21:26.27 | Erroneous | ::: |
| 21:26.34 | romfis | .... |
| 21:26.43 | romfis | ahh |
| 21:26.45 | romfis | lol |
| 21:26.46 | romfis | ::: |
| 21:26.51 | Erroneous | hehehe |
| 21:26.54 | romfis | hihi |
| 21:26.55 | Erroneous | :::. |
| 21:27.00 | romfis | :::. |
| 21:27.06 | Erroneous | :::: |
| 21:27.10 | romfis | :::: |
| 21:27.17 | Erroneous | what is this, an echo? |
| 21:27.27 | romfis | yes echo ;) |
| 21:27.43 | romfis | nnot good? |
| 21:27.48 | romfis | ~n |
| 21:27.50 | ibot | hmm... n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 21:29.06 | dujavi_ | ~m |
| 21:29.08 | ibot | i guess m is a variant of the n disease, usually found among league and CTF players. |
| 21:29.19 | romfis | ~. |
| 21:29.20 | ibot | . |
| 21:29.24 | dujavi_ | ~o |
| 21:29.26 | ibot | it has been said that o is OH! |
| 21:29.34 | romfis | ~, |
| 21:29.38 | ibot | [,] there a quick fix ? |
| 21:29.38 | L4m3r | is that innuendo? |
| 21:29.44 | romfis | lol |
| 21:30.09 | dujavi_ | ~l |
| 21:30.11 | ibot | l is, like, the english version of the greek letter lambda, as used by Alonzo Church in creating his lambda calculus. |
| 21:30.21 | romfis | ~ |
| 21:30.29 | romfis | hehe |
| 21:30.40 | romfis | ~# |
| 21:30.41 | ibot | # is, like, pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board |
| 21:30.48 | romfis | :) |
| 21:31.01 | Erroneous | ~! |
| 21:31.03 | ibot | somebody said ! was what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass |
| 21:31.08 | romfis | ~' |
| 21:31.10 | dujavi_ | ~\0 |
| 21:31.22 | romfis | O_o |
| 21:31.45 | romfis | ~° |
| 21:32.02 | romfis | ~" |
| 21:32.03 | ibot | somebody said " was " |
| 21:32.09 | SportChick | hehe, are you guys bored or something? :p |
| 21:32.11 | SportChick | ~d |
| 21:32.13 | ibot | d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure. |
| 21:32.16 | romfis | SC!! |
| 21:32.22 | Erroneous | yes, I think we are:) |
| 21:32.24 | L4m3r | ibot is dpkg's little sister? heh |
| 21:32.27 | SportChick | romeofiesfischling! |
| 21:32.31 | romfis | :P |
| 21:32.45 | romfis | ~SportChick |
| 21:32.46 | ibot | a fast-typing, mistake making, fun-loving, koolaid-drinking chick |
| 21:32.53 | SportChick | ~romfis |
| 21:32.54 | ibot | rumour has it that romfis is a suesser from Austria who is deadly in a tank, and quite a hit with the ladies |
| 21:33.02 | SportChick | hehe |
| 21:33.04 | romfis | hehe :P |
| 21:33.12 | SportChick | ~erroneous |
| 21:33.23 | romfis | ehm |
| 21:33.39 | SportChick | apparently we stumped jbot ;) |
| 21:33.58 | Erroneous | hmm, can you create aliases? |
| 21:34.33 | SportChick | alias? that show was cancelled |
| 21:35.06 | dujavi_ | ~timriker |
| 21:35.08 | ibot | [timriker] my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 21:35.52 | romfis | ~brlcad |
| 21:35.53 | ibot | [brlcad] like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled |
| 21:36.15 | dujavi_ | ~enemy |
| 21:36.16 | ibot | enemy is, like, not a friend |
| 21:36.36 | dujavi_ | ~friend |
| 21:36.37 | ibot | man, /usr/doc/<package>/*, what else, or the apache error log |
| 21:37.00 | SportChick | lol @ ~brlcad |
| 21:37.14 | Erroneous | ~erroneous |
| 21:37.15 | ibot | i heard erroneous is Er*ro"ne*ous\, a. [L. erroneus, fr. errare to err. See {Err}.] 1: containing or characterized by error; mistaken; as in "erroneous assumptions," "gave an erroneous impression" |
| 21:37.26 | romfis | heh |
| 21:37.36 | romfis | ~ibot |
| 21:37.38 | ibot | from memory, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 21:37.48 | Erroneous | ~jbot |
| 21:37.49 | ibot | jbot is only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test |
| 21:37.49 | romfis | yay, lol! |
| 21:37.55 | Erroneous | ~apt |
| 21:37.56 | ibot | hmm... apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). APT is also known as the best package management system in existence today. |
| 21:38.11 | romfis | ~apt-get |
| 21:38.13 | ibot | [apt-get] the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install ... |
| 21:38.18 | romfis | _P |
| 21:38.20 | romfis | :P |
| 21:38.28 | Erroneous | ~purl |
| 21:38.29 | ibot | i guess purl is not one of the smart ones |
| 21:38.34 | Erroneous | heh |
| 21:38.36 | romfis | ~bzflag |
| 21:38.37 | ibot | bzflag is, like, a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker |
| 21:38.41 | romfis | ahhh :P |
| 21:39.27 | dujavi_ | ~opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game |
| 21:40.18 | dujavi_ | ~Chestal |
| 21:40.20 | ibot | a german gent that enjoys croissants with his pet duck, Tag. |
| 21:40.29 | romfis | ~dujavi_ |
| 21:40.54 | TD-Linux | Have you ever tried typing 'apt-get moo' ? |
| 21:41.30 | dujavi_ | ~zedi |
| 21:44.31 | dujavi_ | ~freetime |
| 21:50.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03amcnabb * 10bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (Makefile.am RCRobotPlayer.cxx): |
| 21:50.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Added a Makefile.am to src/bzrobots that compiles files from src/bzflag. It's |
| 21:50.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: ugly, but it seems to be the best of all of the alternatives for right now. |
| 21:50.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: In the long term we need to move more stuff from src/bzflag to src/game. |
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| 22:29.03 | amcnabb | brlcad, JeffM2501, and Erroneous: I have yet another idea that I wanted to pass by you guys before checking in. |
| 22:29.34 | Erroneous | JeffM2501 is not here, he's sick today |
| 22:29.38 | amcnabb | That's too bad. |
| 22:30.03 | Erroneous | and I haven't seen brlcad all day...which doesn't mean anything, he tends to lurk |
| 22:31.31 | amcnabb | Should I just wait until tomorrow, then? |
| 22:32.18 | amcnabb | One of our professors likes having remote-control tanks use xaccel and yaccel instead of speed and angular velocity. |
| 22:32.18 | Erroneous | or you can explain it twice, whichever suits you :) |
| 22:32.23 | amcnabb | Sure. :) |
| 22:32.34 | amcnabb | I've been calling this "hoverbot" for lack of a better name. |
| 22:32.59 | amcnabb | It only affects bot controls, but I still wanted to see if there were any thoughts about it. |
| 22:32.59 | Erroneous | amcnabb: does bz's 'momentum' not suffice? |
| 22:33.07 | amcnabb | Nope, unfortunately. |
| 22:33.20 | amcnabb | Although that's cool, too. |
| 22:33.40 | amcnabb | Anyway, they've been doing it this semester, and it's pretty cool to watch. |
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| 22:34.35 | Erroneous | ah, I think I understand...he lets them strafe? |
| 22:34.41 | amcnabb | Pretty much. |
| 22:34.46 | Erroneous | cool |
| 22:34.56 | Erroneous | bz:zero had strafing support |
| 22:35.09 | Erroneous | that plus momentum did make for a pretty interesting gamestyle |
| 22:35.15 | amcnabb | :) |
| 22:35.16 | Erroneous | but I think I prefer low-friction instead :) |
| 22:35.28 | Erroneous | powersliding around corners to get the good shots in |
| 22:35.30 | amcnabb | That sounds cool. |
| 22:35.43 | Erroneous | play with /set _friction, I think |
| 22:36.10 | Erroneous | normal bz tanks have infinte acceleration and infinite traction...makes things a bit boring in the physics dept :) |
| 22:36.17 | amcnabb | Yep. :) |
| 22:36.44 | amcnabb | One of our professors uses momentum to make things interesting--the other uses hoverbot mode. |
| 22:36.48 | amcnabb | Hey. You'll like this: |
| 22:37.07 | Erroneous | lowering friction is fun because you have to think about how to set up your slides. I'm not sure acceleration-limited strafing would be quite as much fun, but not having tried it... |
| 22:37.45 | amcnabb | Before we did momentum control (this was back in bzflag 1.7g2), students figured out that if you shoot while moving, the bullet goes faster. So they'd jump forward, shoot, and slow down in a brief instant. |
| 22:38.14 | Erroneous | yup |
| 22:38.26 | amcnabb | Of course, it was a computer-controlled, so it looked pretty cool. |
| 22:38.29 | Erroneous | iirc there was even a hack for that floating around for a while |
| 22:38.30 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 22:38.40 | Erroneous | fire and your tank would jump forward for a couple frames |
| 22:38.45 | amcnabb | :) |
| 22:38.54 | Erroneous | can still do that actually |
| 22:39.04 | Erroneous | on zero-momentum servers |
| 22:39.31 | amcnabb | With human-controlled stuff, zero-momentum works okay, because you have smoothing from the mouse. |
| 22:39.46 | amcnabb | When it's computer-controlled, though, it seems really unnatural and wrong to not have momentum. |
| 22:39.51 | amcnabb | That's my experience, anyway. |
| 22:40.04 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 22:40.18 | amcnabb | Well, I think I'm going to head home for today. |
| 22:40.23 | Erroneous | the entire debate about "ME" was that very issue |
| 22:40.28 | amcnabb | I'll bring this up again tomorrow. |
| 22:40.30 | amcnabb | What's ME? |
| 22:40.35 | Erroneous | "mouse enhancements" |
| 22:40.42 | amcnabb | ok |
| 22:40.46 | Erroneous | you can set your controls to the point where you can jump instantly from full forward to full reverse |
| 22:40.48 | amcnabb | I've heard of that. |
| 22:40.52 | amcnabb | Wow. |
| 22:41.44 | amcnabb | Well, see you later. |
| 22:41.48 | Erroneous | c'ya |
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| 23:01.40 | A_Heart_Attack | gtg |
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