| 00:00.25 | CBG | What did? |
| 00:00.53 | Shaba1 | I trid to run bzfs from the command line |
| 00:01.03 | Shaba1 | Not a recognized command |
| 00:01.14 | Shaba1 | So I tired bzflag bzfs |
| 00:01.15 | L4m3r | and that locks you up? |
| 00:01.48 | Shaba1 | this time I got to the bzflag screen but when I tried to quit the whole machine locked up and had to be rebooted |
| 00:02.15 | spldart | :( |
| 00:02.33 | L4m3r | Shaba1: what OS? |
| 00:02.44 | spldart | xp right? |
| 00:02.59 | CBG | bzfs is not part of bzflag in that way. |
| 00:03.10 | spldart | so |
| 00:03.10 | L4m3r | yeah, it's its own executable |
| 00:03.16 | CBG | Check the path you used for bzfs. |
| 00:03.29 | spldart | c:/directory/bzflag/bzfs -switches locked you up? |
| 00:03.45 | L4m3r | but honestly I have no clue how to add programs as windows commands... are you sure you installed the server with the client? |
| 00:04.57 | Shaba1 | there is now bzfs file in that directory spldart. |
| 00:05.03 | Shaba1 | That is what I was trying to say before |
| 00:05.10 | spldart | ah |
| 00:05.55 | Shaba1 | there is bzflag.exe,bzadmin.exe and about 6 dlls |
| 00:06.11 | spldart | so addressing c:/directory/bzflag/bzfs -switches or arguments locks you up as well as the client -solo? |
| 00:06.34 | CBG | What did you download, Shaba1 and from where ? |
| 00:06.38 | spldart | hrm... which version |
| 00:06.42 | spldart | oop |
| 00:07.54 | Shaba1 | spldart as I said there IS NO bzfs exe in the directory I following the advise I recieved here before I locked up I put in /bzflag -bzfs |
| 00:08.25 | spldart | that's what I was thinking... but what did you download and install in a windows machine that was missing the bzfs? |
| 00:08.30 | spldart | Just curious |
| 00:08.33 | Shaba1 | that got me to the interface and when I tried to quit the program locked up the machine so badly I had to power down and power back up again |
| 00:09.32 | spldart | ah |
| 00:09.51 | spldart | when you installed the software you didn't option in the server |
| 00:10.18 | CBG | What is "/bzflag -bzfs" supposed to do? |
| 00:10.30 | CBG | bzfs is not a switch for bzflag.... |
| 00:10.54 | Shaba1 | Well that is what somone said to do here CBG |
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| 00:11.09 | spldart | poop |
| 00:11.25 | Shaba1 | I have no idea spldart it was last week and I erased the zip after I installed |
| 00:11.33 | CBG | You need to find the bzfs executable. |
| 00:11.35 | CBG | What did you download, Shaba1 and from where ? |
| 00:11.44 | Shaba1 | sourceforge |
| 00:11.44 | spldart | well |
| 00:11.59 | Shaba1 | I still have that exe that in unziped |
| 00:12.10 | CBG | What was it you downloaded? |
| 00:12.23 | spldart | I'll assume 2.0.8. When you install you need to option in the server. that gives you the bzfs stuff |
| 00:12.32 | L4m3r | ^^what he said |
| 00:12.33 | spldart | lemme do a test here |
| 00:14.39 | spldart | okies.. test install with latest win32 2.0.9 gave me bzfs just fine.. I'mma try and run a random local map real quick |
| 00:15.14 | CBG | just run bzfs with no switches |
| 00:15.16 | CBG | it should give a random map on 5154 |
| 00:15.32 | spldart | ok... |
| 00:15.50 | CBG | HOW DO YOU LIKE IT ? :) |
| 00:15.54 | spldart | I ran c:/Program Files/BZFlag2.0.9/bzfs.exe and it worked fine |
| 00:15.55 | CBG | Oops, wrong window. |
| 00:16.01 | spldart | hehehe |
| 00:16.03 | L4m3r | :o |
| 00:16.27 | CBG | That was a BAD line to paste in the wrong channel too. :( |
| 00:16.33 | a_meteorite | lol... |
| 00:16.39 | a_meteorite | I can only imagine what channel that was for. |
| 00:16.47 | JeffM2501 | I do not want to know what context that was in ;) |
| 00:16.49 | spldart | gives a quick message about mice, accell limits, dead reckoning etc but fine |
| 00:16.53 | Shaba1 | OK then I suppose that I need to reinstall because and I have said for the 4 time bzfs IS NOT in that directory |
| 00:16.57 | CBG | Could have always been worse though. ;) |
| 00:17.05 | CBG | Shaba1: so, reinstall. |
| 00:17.11 | spldart | yep |
| 00:17.14 | CBG | It should be there, _I_ don't see any reason why it's not. |
| 00:17.15 | JeffM2501 | Shaba1, it's not? |
| 00:17.17 | spldart | Methinks you need to option in the server |
| 00:17.24 | JeffM2501 | it is an optional part in the installer |
| 00:17.26 | L4m3r | Shaba1: make sure you select an option for the "bzflag server" if there is one |
| 00:17.28 | JeffM2501 | maybe it got turned off |
| 00:17.36 | JeffM2501 | it's best to install it all, it's not too big |
| 00:17.48 | spldart | so smalll |
| 00:17.54 | JeffM2501 | should default to all of them on IIRC |
| 00:17.57 | JeffM2501 | if it dosn't let me know |
| 00:18.06 | spldart | it does jeff |
| 00:18.14 | JeffM2501 | well I want to make sure it does for him too |
| 00:18.21 | spldart | ah |
| 00:18.22 | spldart | sorry |
| 00:18.23 | JeffM2501 | maybe there is something it does difrent on other systems |
| 00:18.29 | Shaba1 | Ok I just reinstall and it is now there |
| 00:18.30 | Shaba1 | what now |
| 00:18.36 | spldart | I had just done a test install of a diff version and it did ;) |
| 00:18.42 | JeffM2501 | well you have a couple options |
| 00:18.59 | JeffM2501 | if you do command line, just run it, and it'll start a server with all the default options |
| 00:19.04 | JeffM2501 | do you want to set custom options? |
| 00:19.18 | Shaba1 | no forget anything fancey |
| 00:19.23 | JeffM2501 | then just run it |
| 00:19.37 | JeffM2501 | that's one shot, no jump, no rico, on port 5154, non public |
| 00:19.37 | spldart | :) |
| 00:19.38 | Shaba1 | I just want to be able to play this game on my own machine against that computer |
| 00:19.42 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:19.46 | Shaba1 | and not have it lock up my machine |
| 00:19.49 | JeffM2501 | then that will start a server |
| 00:20.06 | JeffM2501 | then start the client with -solo and join localhost and your good |
| 00:20.46 | Shaba1 | Ok I just typed in bzfs |
| 00:20.51 | JeffM2501 | that should do it |
| 00:20.57 | Shaba1 | and got a message about acceleration limits |
| 00:20.58 | JeffM2501 | if your in the right dir of course |
| 00:21.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's the standard warning |
| 00:21.05 | JeffM2501 | your server is running |
| 00:21.15 | Shaba1 | and now there is a locked up comand line with a blinking cursor |
| 00:21.20 | JeffM2501 | it's not locked |
| 00:21.21 | JeffM2501 | it's running |
| 00:21.23 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts it |
| 00:21.26 | spldart | :) |
| 00:21.27 | JeffM2501 | leave that up and your good |
| 00:21.37 | Shaba1 | Ok now what |
| 00:21.40 | JeffM2501 | bzfs isn't a service it's a good old fassioned comamnd line app |
| 00:21.48 | JeffM2501 | run bzflag with -solo in a new terminal |
| 00:21.55 | CBG | Now open bzflag and join localhost:5154 |
| 00:22.00 | JeffM2501 | and join 127.0.0.1 port 5154 |
| 00:22.05 | JeffM2501 | or localhost |
| 00:22.07 | JeffM2501 | same thing |
| 00:22.08 | spldart | I prefer 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:22.12 | spldart | but yeah |
| 00:22.14 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't mater ;) |
| 00:22.17 | CBG | makes no difference :P |
| 00:22.50 | JeffM2501 | Shaba1, by default bzfs dosnt' produce any output or have any inteface, so that's why it looks like it's locked, it's just running with no output |
| 00:25.04 | Shaba1 | Oke dokey |
| 00:25.14 | Shaba1 | it ran without locking up |
| 00:25.16 | Shaba1 | Finally |
| 00:25.20 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 00:25.25 | Shaba1 | Ok how do I stop bzfs? |
| 00:25.30 | JeffM2501 | just close that window |
| 00:25.38 | JeffM2501 | or ctrl+C it |
| 00:25.42 | Shaba1 | cool thank |
| 00:25.46 | Shaba1 | Okey dokey |
| 00:25.53 | Shaba1 | man that was a struggle |
| 00:26.00 | JeffM2501 | you can add more options to bzfs for difrent games, they are all specified in the man page |
| 00:26.20 | JeffM2501 | there should also be some shortcuts in the start menu that will start local servers with some sample options |
| 00:26.32 | Shaba1 | Like my GOVENATOR said III""LLLL BBBBEEEEE BBBBAAAAACCCCCKKKK |
| 00:27.12 | spldart | ctrl+C didn't work on my xp |
| 00:27.12 | JeffM2501 | then just close it |
| 00:27.12 | spldart | so closed it |
| 00:27.13 | JeffM2501 | few servers run windows if any |
| 00:27.17 | Shaba1 | I just did |
| 00:27.20 | spldart | remember when I did? |
| 00:27.26 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 00:27.31 | JeffM2501 | isn't linux so much better for it? |
| 00:27.44 | spldart | SO much better for that, apache and files |
| 00:27.45 | JeffM2501 | screen makes it all better |
| 00:27.49 | Shaba1 | Ok thanks JeffM2501 and spldart |
| 00:27.50 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:27.53 | JeffM2501 | sure thing man |
| 00:28.01 | spldart | mostly thanks to jeff he pwns |
| 00:28.09 | Shaba1 | I gotta run I am already at work one hour past quitting time. |
| 00:28.09 | JeffM2501 | wonder if there is a windows version of screen |
| 00:28.20 | spldart | lol |
| 00:28.21 | JeffM2501 | whoot, OT :) |
| 00:30.14 | Shaba1 | Ok let me get a bit of practice and I will then try to join a real server |
| 00:30.29 | Shaba1 | btw does one shot mean you only get to shoot one time? |
| 00:30.36 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:30.38 | spldart | one time reload |
| 00:30.38 | JeffM2501 | basicly |
| 00:30.41 | spldart | then one time |
| 00:31.08 | spldart | 3 shot's is common public... 5 shots for more ffa types and lots for just hectic servers |
| 00:31.21 | JeffM2501 | 10 shots for the munchkin servers ;) |
| 00:31.50 | L4m3r | I prefer 6~8 shots in most cases. |
| 00:32.13 | L4m3r | 6 is "just right" for a lot of flag-filled games |
| 00:32.18 | spldart | Good players generally found on 3 to 5 shots.. marksman on 1 or 2 shot servers :-0 |
| 00:32.19 | L4m3r | IMO |
| 00:32.44 | JeffM2501 | all fish missile.. all the time! |
| 00:33.00 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:33.11 | Shaba1 | Helllo |
| 00:33.53 | spldart | He just spammed us the pervert |
| 00:34.36 | JeffM2501 | very strange quote |
| 00:35.34 | JeffM2501 | must drive a big SUV |
| 00:35.38 | spldart | LOL |
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| 00:57.14 | A-Delusion | I had this problem the first time too... JeffM2501Shaba1, by default bzfs dosnt' produce any output or have any inteface, so that's why it looks like it's locked, it's just running with no output |
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| 00:57.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:57.30 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts just what it does |
| 00:57.43 | JeffM2501 | probalby should put in a "server started" line |
| 00:57.44 | A-Delusion | i'm crackin up right now |
| 00:57.48 | JeffM2501 | but then that makes it not silent |
| 01:03.43 | JeffM2501 | at the tone the time will be "time to get the heck outa here" |
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| 01:30.27 | amathis | ello'! |
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| 01:45.09 | A-Delusion | it's quiet time, we've spread out our mats and taken a nap. |
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| 02:20.03 | amathis | hey JeffM2501 |
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| 02:25.46 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 02:26.29 | bryjen | nothin, yous? |
| 02:28.34 | spldart | Underworld evolution was way better than Ultraviolet |
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| 02:38.43 | JeffM2501 | ultraviolet was HORIBLE |
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| 02:39.05 | JeffM2501 | made the matric 3 look good |
| 02:39.12 | spldart | sorry.. Virc was messing up |
| 02:42.05 | JeffM2501 | ultraviolet was HORIBLE |
| 02:42.07 | JeffM2501 | made the matric 3 look good |
| 02:42.17 | spldart | lol |
| 02:42.30 | spldart | it was a GREAT dissappointment |
| 02:42.43 | JeffM2501 | aeon flux is prety good |
| 02:42.58 | spldart | and underworld evolution wasn't great but much better than U |
| 02:43.05 | spldart | aeon was pretty ok |
| 03:10.44 | spldart | their bailing left and right :-0 |
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| 04:34.50 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dbw192 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Fix a compilation warning. Add some local collision detection for admin. |
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| 09:14.59 | Rawk | hi |
| 09:15.04 | daniel_jackson | hey |
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| 09:16.56 | daniel_jackson | you there rawk messaged you |
| 09:17.15 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: yea |
| 09:17.30 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7pXpvr48.html |
| 09:18.23 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how is it? |
| 09:19.05 | daniel_jackson | looks pretty good, you may want to chage those case statements to if statements |
| 09:19.19 | daniel_jackson | for performance |
| 09:19.42 | daniel_jackson | I actually have page that might be right up your alley |
| 09:19.48 | Rawk | in checkCaptureTeam() ? |
| 09:20.47 | daniel_jackson | ecapture too |
| 09:20.51 | daniel_jackson | http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/21314 |
| 09:20.52 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-view_articles.php |
| 09:21.02 | daniel_jackson | ok thanks |
| 09:21.41 | daniel_jackson | the link I gave you talks all about optimizing code for amd64 |
| 09:22.13 | Rawk | yea, thanks :-) |
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| 09:22.34 | daniel_jackson | hell that stuff is like my bible |
| 09:22.53 | Shaba1 | what link was that daniel_jackson I missed it. I just got and AMD sempron |
| 09:23.24 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: what stuff? |
| 09:23.43 | Rawk | Shaba1: http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/21314 |
| 09:23.47 | daniel_jackson | its a link talking about optimizing c/c++ code for amd64 (sempron is 64 cabable |
| 09:24.18 | daniel_jackson | the "stuff" is anything talking about optimizing |
| 09:25.02 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: I'll try changing them to if's, sec. |
| 09:25.09 | Shaba1 | cabble??? |
| 09:25.25 | daniel_jackson | mee yes |
| 09:26.12 | daniel_jackson | I built an optimized bzfs and bzflag system with the help of that |
| 09:26.22 | daniel_jackson | page |
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| 09:26.48 | Chestal | eh, the switch/if sugestion doesn't make sense to me |
| 09:27.27 | daniel_jackson | if statements run faster than case statements |
| 09:27.54 | daniel_jackson | another thing thats good thernary conditionals |
| 09:28.13 | Chestal | I dare say that this is very dependent on the compiler and CPU |
| 09:28.50 | daniel_jackson | well it mainly would be good for a server |
| 09:28.56 | Chestal | also, for a plugin like this which is hopefully only called every so often, thany micro optimizations will make no measurable difference at all |
| 09:29.16 | daniel_jackson | true |
| 09:30.18 | daniel_jackson | like I was telling rawk, I'm a hardware guy that knows c/c++ pretty well, so i don't have the same expertise as a straight programmer |
| 09:32.12 | daniel_jackson | thernary conditionals work if this: |
| 09:33.07 | daniel_jackson | a = (t<=3) ? 3: 1; |
| 09:33.37 | daniel_jackson | this basically is like saying: |
| 09:33.53 | trepan | ya, compiler's always make faster code with those |
| 09:34.16 | daniel_jackson | I love those |
| 09:34.37 | Chestal | I use them because they express my intention better than if/else with two assigns |
| 09:34.52 | Chestal | and when you init a var, you have no choice anyway |
| 09:34.57 | daniel_jackson | oh yeah and they save lines of code! |
| 09:36.01 | daniel_jackson | hey rawk can you send me a zip or a tar of your plugin? |
| 09:37.13 | daniel_jackson | I guess he walked out |
| 09:37.21 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: yea |
| 09:38.00 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: I'm just not sure were to put them on the net |
| 09:38.28 | daniel_jackson | just email them to me for now |
| 09:38.40 | Rawk | ok |
| 09:38.45 | daniel_jackson | djackson_bzflag@yahoo.com |
| 09:39.32 | Rawk | mailing..... |
| 09:39.37 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 09:40.00 | Rawk | mailing soon I mean |
| 09:40.13 | daniel_jackson | thats fine |
| 09:41.10 | daniel_jackson | another optimization is using the -march and -mtune flags for C, CPP, CXX, |
| 09:41.49 | daniel_jackson | or actually for CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, and CXXFLAGS |
| 09:44.20 | daniel_jackson | in my advanced c/c++ class one of my classmates worked on a sudoku solver |
| 09:44.59 | daniel_jackson | and was able to cut down the code by using #defines |
| 09:46.21 | daniel_jackson | so Rawk you got your head in code, right now? lol |
| 09:46.40 | Rawk | no, sending email lol |
| 09:46.46 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 09:47.23 | daniel_jackson | yeah the taliking usually stops when I'm really into what I'm doing |
| 09:47.57 | daniel_jackson | let me go check it |
| 09:48.04 | Rawk | I've sent it |
| 09:48.15 | daniel_jackson | ok tanks |
| 09:48.43 | daniel_jackson | yes that was a typo, but I guess it fits the room |
| 09:50.15 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: Is it working? |
| 09:50.22 | daniel_jackson | I got it |
| 09:50.50 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, tried it in bzflag? |
| 09:50.57 | daniel_jackson | I haven't compiled or anything |
| 09:51.01 | Rawk | ok |
| 09:51.23 | daniel_jackson | but I notice you used and IDE to write the file! lol |
| 09:51.39 | Rawk | no?? |
| 09:51.57 | daniel_jackson | that all the darn extra files the IDEmakes |
| 09:52.25 | daniel_jackson | did you use gcc? |
| 09:53.03 | Rawk | those vc++ things are copied from bzflag sample plugin or something |
| 09:53.25 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 09:53.59 | Rawk | it's got a Makefile there, doesn't it? I just use that |
| 09:54.26 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 09:55.17 | daniel_jackson | it compiles fine |
| 09:55.29 | Rawk | The vc++ things are just so Micro$oft ppl can use it |
| 09:55.44 | daniel_jackson | darn microsoft! |
| 09:55.58 | Rawk | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.16 | daniel_jackson | how do i get it to interact with bzfs? |
| 09:57.16 | daniel_jackson | is there plugin direcctory? |
| 09:57.58 | Rawk | use something like: bzfs -dddd -loadplugin "PATH/tournamentMode.so" -mp 30 -a 50 38 |
| 09:58.10 | daniel_jackson | oh ok thanks |
| 09:58.26 | daniel_jackson | 4x debug!? lol |
| 09:58.26 | Rawk | then bzflag -solo 29 |
| 09:58.34 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 09:58.51 | Rawk | then join localhost:5154 |
| 09:59.12 | daniel_jackson | I got it from there |
| 10:01.51 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, 4x debug is so bzfs notifies you as to whether or not the plugins load |
| 10:02.04 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:02.17 | daniel_jackson | better safe then sorry |
| 10:02.17 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, did it work |
| 10:02.35 | daniel_jackson | I'm just loading the server now |
| 10:04.04 | daniel_jackson | it started no errors |
| 10:04.11 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, did you compile bzflag with "./configure --enable-shared --enable-plugins" ? |
| 10:04.35 | Rawk | you need to for plugins |
| 10:05.02 | daniel_jackson | let me check |
| 10:05.42 | daniel_jackson | I used the autogen |
| 10:06.20 | daniel_jackson | I don't think i used --enable plugins |
| 10:06.24 | Rawk | check your config.log |
| 10:06.29 | daniel_jackson | I will |
| 10:07.04 | daniel_jackson | I'm on a KVM so I have to switch my terminal |
| 10:09.17 | daniel_jackson | BUILD_PLUGINS_TRUE='#' |
| 10:09.32 | daniel_jackson | I guess it did |
| 10:10.58 | daniel_jackson | look for bzgate.dyndns.org |
| 10:11.35 | daniel_jackson | login to that server on bzflag let test it |
| 10:11.59 | Rawk | your server? |
| 10:13.12 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 10:13.19 | Rawk | ok |
| 10:13.19 | daniel_jackson | port 5154 |
| 10:13.24 | Rawk | yep |
| 10:15.09 | daniel_jackson | I'm sry that my server is at the bottom of the list |
| 10:18.15 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, you there??? |
| 10:18.21 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 10:18.27 | Rawk | good |
| 10:18.44 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/RgbCst65.html |
| 10:18.47 | daniel_jackson | I think tealc said that on SG1! lol |
| 10:19.27 | Rawk | and i get you a better world |
| 10:19.46 | daniel_jackson | I have a world and a config |
| 10:19.50 | Rawk | you need a ctf world |
| 10:20.02 | daniel_jackson | its a bzfx's |
| 10:20.15 | daniel_jackson | laser snipping |
| 10:20.22 | Rawk | CTF? |
| 10:20.26 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 10:20.51 | Rawk | ok, use that one, with jumping :-) |
| 10:20.56 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:21.18 | Rawk | sec. going to switch computers |
| 10:21.25 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:21.35 | *** part/#bzflag Rawk (n=Unknown@203-173-148-65.bliink.ihug.co.nz) |
| 10:22.57 | *** join/#bzflag Rawk (n=Unknown@203-173-148-65.bliink.ihug.co.nz) |
| 10:23.05 | Rawk | back |
| 10:23.25 | daniel_jackson | ok making at test init script |
| 10:23.35 | Rawk | sure |
| 10:24.49 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, bzfs sure say "tournamentMode plugin loaded" |
| 10:26.38 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, *make sure bzfs says........ |
| 10:26.41 | daniel_jackson | no its not there |
| 10:26.49 | *** join/#bzflag gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host81-156-237-58.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:26.59 | daniel_jackson | I have to output to a log file |
| 10:27.14 | daniel_jackson | I have it output to a log file |
| 10:27.15 | Rawk | 4x debug? -dddd |
| 10:27.21 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 10:27.51 | daniel_jackson | let me do a man on bzfs real quit |
| 10:27.56 | daniel_jackson | quick |
| 10:28.26 | Rawk | aren't you running it from a terminal |
| 10:28.45 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 10:29.18 | daniel_jackson | bzfs doesn't have any plugin switches |
| 10:29.40 | Rawk | what version |
| 10:29.47 | daniel_jackson | 2.0.8 |
| 10:29.53 | Rawk | should do |
| 10:30.10 | daniel_jackson | lets test the game first |
| 10:30.20 | Rawk | ok |
| 10:30.34 | daniel_jackson | who knows it may act different |
| 10:30.52 | daniel_jackson | see you in the game |
| 10:41.06 | daniel_jackson | you back? |
| 10:41.13 | daniel_jackson | Rawk? |
| 10:41.18 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, did you get Plugin:PATHTO/tournamentMode.so loaded |
| 10:41.21 | Rawk | yea |
| 10:41.45 | Rawk | ...from bzfs? |
| 10:41.46 | daniel_jackson | you said something about a comma and a number |
| 10:41.54 | Rawk | yea...... |
| 10:42.39 | daniel_jackson | before we get back in let me add you as owner |
| 10:43.15 | daniel_jackson | I've got its set know so only my admins can see the server |
| 10:43.25 | Rawk | ....you can set the number of tournaments like this: -loadplugin "PATH/tournamentMode.so,NUMOFTOURNAMENTS" |
| 10:43.35 | Rawk | the defaut is 3 |
| 10:43.43 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 10:44.14 | Rawk | who is "only my admins"? |
| 10:44.53 | daniel_jackson | my personal server admins |
| 10:45.08 | daniel_jackson | but your now added |
| 10:45.22 | Rawk | try this: run bzfs from the terminal and see what it says |
| 10:45.50 | daniel_jackson | well first off it warns me about acceleration |
| 10:46.30 | Rawk | nothing to worry about |
| 10:46.46 | Rawk | what else? |
| 10:46.58 | daniel_jackson | thats it |
| 10:47.13 | Rawk | hmm, thats no good |
| 10:47.14 | daniel_jackson | but thats with out any switches |
| 10:47.34 | daniel_jackson | Note: no acceleration limit has been set. Players using "mouse |
| 10:47.34 | daniel_jackson | enhancements" may cause problems on this server due to very high |
| 10:47.34 | daniel_jackson | acceleration rates which are not handled well by dead reckoning |
| 10:47.34 | daniel_jackson | algorithms. To eliminate this warning, set the -a switch in your |
| 10:47.34 | daniel_jackson | configuration. '-a 50 38' is recommended for standard-speed servers. |
| 10:47.35 | daniel_jackson | Higher speed servers will need higher values for -a in order to not |
| 10:47.36 | daniel_jackson | affect gameplay. '-a 0 0' may be used to shut this message up without |
| 10:47.39 | daniel_jackson | affecting any players, including those using "mouse enhancements". |
| 10:48.00 | daniel_jackson | but the server actually starts |
| 10:48.04 | Rawk | you should rather get something like this................... |
| 10:49.25 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/y2H8Dy41.html |
| 10:50.14 | Rawk | your's would still be a little different of course |
| 10:50.16 | daniel_jackson | ok I'm probably really dumb |
| 10:50.37 | daniel_jackson | i quoted the plugin |
| 10:50.50 | Rawk | as you should |
| 10:50.58 | Rawk | (I think) |
| 10:51.12 | Rawk | thats what I do |
| 10:52.04 | daniel_jackson | I took the quotes out and it started, now let me check the log file |
| 10:52.41 | Rawk | ok, I'm going to check that the latest tournamentMode actually works. brb |
| 10:52.55 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:54.53 | daniel_jackson | don't use the list server just type it in manually |
| 10:55.19 | Rawk | what do you mean? |
| 10:55.48 | Rawk | I tried it (locally), and it sure works |
| 10:56.42 | daniel_jackson | you'll proably be searching list server for days |
| 10:57.45 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, are you doing it exactly like this: -loadplugin "FULLPATHTOPLUGIN/playHistoryTracker.so" |
| 10:57.57 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, ahh now I get ya |
| 10:58.12 | Rawk | oops, lol |
| 10:58.40 | daniel_jackson | -loadplugin /usr/local/share/bzfs/tournamentMode.so,1 |
| 10:59.32 | Rawk | I did "playHistoryTracker.so" not "tournamentMode.so", but while I'm at it, try another plugin |
| 10:59.41 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 10:59.45 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 11:01.27 | Rawk | bzflag should have compiled some other plugins in WHERE_EVER_BZFLAG_IS_IN_STALLED/lib |
| 11:01.42 | daniel_jackson | lol ok |
| 11:02.33 | Rawk | can you find them, if you can, that should mean bzflag compiled right |
| 11:03.54 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, try one like -loadplugin "PATH/airspawn.so,150" |
| 11:04.05 | daniel_jackson | I found them, didn't have them installed, but I easily built them |
| 11:04.13 | daniel_jackson | sure ok |
| 11:05.10 | Rawk | bzflag should have built them else it probably didn't compile right |
| 11:06.43 | Rawk | how did you put bzflag on your system? using a debian package? |
| 11:06.59 | daniel_jackson | no I built from the source |
| 11:07.03 | Rawk | good |
| 11:07.15 | daniel_jackson | stupid packages |
| 11:07.20 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 11:07.42 | daniel_jackson | I can recompile it if you want |
| 11:07.54 | Rawk | did you use ./configure --enable-shared --enable-plugins ? |
| 11:08.51 | daniel_jackson | it enabled shared, but not enabled plugins |
| 11:09.31 | Rawk | configure with them both then (and whatever else you want) |
| 11:09.42 | daniel_jackson | lol ok |
| 11:10.00 | Rawk | you need to --enable-plugins I think |
| 11:10.20 | Rawk | that would be the problem ;-) |
| 11:11.37 | daniel_jackson | I adjusted the makefile |
| 11:11.53 | daniel_jackson | lets see what happens |
| 11:12.23 | daniel_jackson | theres two lines: |
| 11:12.33 | daniel_jackson | PLUGINS= |
| 11:12.45 | daniel_jackson | #PLUGINS=plugins |
| 11:13.16 | Rawk | gentoo doesn't --enable-plugins by default (you'd probably have to change the ebuild manually) so I compiled my own version of bzflag to my home dir |
| 11:13.36 | daniel_jackson | I just made the first line a comment and uncommented the 2nd line |
| 11:14.02 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: you shouldn't be changing the makefile manually!! |
| 11:14.21 | daniel_jackson | I'm not a noob I have bacheler's |
| 11:15.01 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: you run ./configure lol :-D |
| 11:15.22 | daniel_jackson | its already configured |
| 11:15.38 | daniel_jackson | you just need to tweak it |
| 11:16.17 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, if you edit the makefile you might create new probs for youself (and me :-) ) |
| 11:16.54 | daniel_jackson | only enabled the plugins manully |
| 11:17.14 | daniel_jackson | trust me I know UNIX scripting as well |
| 11:17.40 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, re-runing ./configure with different options works just fine lol |
| 11:18.04 | daniel_jackson | its whatever is easier |
| 11:18.35 | Rawk | well, have you got anywhere yet? |
| 11:19.36 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: is it building? |
| 11:20.14 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 11:20.24 | Rawk | yay! :-D |
| 11:21.52 | daniel_jackson | I forgot to make clean first |
| 11:22.28 | Rawk | doesn't matter (I don't think) |
| 11:23.18 | daniel_jackson | my new configure say it has no idea what "--enable-plugins" is |
| 11:24.02 | daniel_jackson | never mind syntax error, rather PEBKAG error |
| 11:24.32 | Rawk | I think maybe you'd better start with a clean bzflag |
| 11:24.58 | daniel_jackson | PEBKAG stands for "Problem exists between keyboard and ground" |
| 11:25.05 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 11:25.39 | daniel_jackson | ok were building now |
| 11:26.13 | Rawk | with plugins? lol |
| 11:26.19 | daniel_jackson | the problem was "--enabled-plugins" lol |
| 11:26.31 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: this time, when you run "make install", it should say that it installed some plugins somewhere. |
| 11:27.23 | daniel_jackson | and you know ever since I optimized my kernel the compiles just fly by! |
| 11:27.37 | Rawk | heh |
| 11:29.30 | Rawk | so this time maybe try a few plugins: playHistoryTracker.so tournamentMode.so,2 and airspawn.so,150 |
| 11:29.40 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 11:30.11 | daniel_jackson | do I need to specify --loadplugin more than once? |
| 11:30.18 | Rawk | yes |
| 11:30.22 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 11:30.33 | Rawk | on the next line |
| 11:31.54 | Rawk | like this: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nBnf5K93.html |
| 11:31.56 | daniel_jackson | ok the plugins are now in my lib dir |
| 11:32.17 | Rawk | ok, good |
| 11:32.31 | *** join/#bzflag Rewt` (n=rewt@adsl-154-147-43.mco.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:32.42 | Rewt` | morning. |
| 11:32.48 | Rawk | make sure you have the right path for tournamentMode.so |
| 11:32.50 | daniel_jackson | moring |
| 11:32.57 | daniel_jackson | morning |
| 11:33.08 | Rawk | Hi Rewt` |
| 11:33.15 | Rewt` | my son and I are new to bzflag. Playing 2.0.8 - was wondering where to get some maps to play locally? |
| 11:33.27 | Rewt` | son is 8 tomorrow, btw.. loves the game |
| 11:33.32 | CBG | Rewt`: try the bzbb, map-release section |
| 11:33.45 | Rewt` | had him on a public server last night. I think he got 3 kills... ;-) |
| 11:34.14 | CBG | Hehe, it takes time. :) |
| 11:34.22 | Rewt` | hey, 3 kills is good! |
| 11:34.23 | Rewt` | ;-) |
| 11:34.29 | Rawk | Rewt`: you can save maps in-game |
| 11:34.31 | Rewt` | I see the map section. thanks. didn't think to look there. |
| 11:34.35 | CBG | Rewt`: Most people post their maps here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=64 :) |
| 11:34.56 | CBG | Also, you can go to any server, press ESC, go to Options and "Save World" :) |
| 11:34.56 | Rewt` | CBG: thanks. Am there. perfecto |
| 11:35.01 | Rewt` | oh.. |
| 11:35.06 | Rewt` | that I didn't know.. that's cool |
| 11:35.41 | CBG | You can also try sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=423059 |
| 11:36.02 | CBG | If you can't find a map with any of those methods, it doesn't exist ;) |
| 11:36.12 | Rawk | Rewt`: you can save maps in-game, go to Options->Save World |
| 11:36.29 | Rewt` | thanks * |
| 11:36.29 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: you still around? |
| 11:36.30 | Rewt` | ;-) |
| 11:36.35 | CBG | Rawk: I told him :) |
| 11:36.39 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 11:37.14 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how you going? |
| 11:37.30 | daniel_jackson | looks like I should have run a make distclena |
| 11:37.39 | daniel_jackson | good |
| 11:37.39 | Rewt` | oh. one question. On one of my systems the vieiw is from the "front bumper" of the tank, while on another you see the front hood & treds. Can't see where to change the options to get rid of the front hood and treds |
| 11:37.58 | Rewt` | ...nothing like stating a question in a statement format. |
| 11:38.11 | daniel_jackson | you bet! |
| 11:38.14 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 11:38.39 | daniel_jackson | it should be under dispay options |
| 11:38.46 | CBG | Rewt`: try Options>GUI Settings |
| 11:39.02 | Rewt` | thought I looked there. no worries. I'll look more. |
| 11:39.05 | CBG | "Display Threads" is the setting. |
| 11:39.13 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 11:39.36 | Rewt` | ahhh |
| 11:39.36 | Rewt` | ok |
| 11:39.37 | Rewt` | thanks |
| 11:39.40 | CBG | It's "Effects Settings" |
| 11:39.47 | CBG | 4th thing down :) |
| 11:39.58 | daniel_jackson | know look what you did Rawk you make me compile a slow bzfs! lol |
| 11:40.28 | Rawk | Rewt`: but you can't make the front hood disappear I don't think |
| 11:40.42 | daniel_jackson | yeah you can |
| 11:41.12 | ruskie | yeah with a CL flag |
| 11:41.12 | Rawk | that's only when you have the cloaking flag I thought |
| 11:41.41 | ruskie | else ppl without the hood would have an unfair advantage |
| 11:41.42 | Rewt` | yep, treds are gone. |
| 11:41.55 | Rewt` | I had it confused with showing the tracks, and didn't turn it off |
| 11:41.56 | Rewt` | nice. |
| 11:42.12 | ruskie | lol you can't turn those off as well :) |
| 11:42.19 | ruskie | they just aren't animated |
| 11:42.42 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, are you doing a complete rebuild? |
| 11:47.22 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how do I make a public server when I have a firewall? |
| 11:47.53 | daniel_jackson | use a port redirect |
| 11:48.14 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how does that work? |
| 11:48.55 | daniel_jackson | lets say your router address router.cox.net |
| 11:49.12 | daniel_jackson | or hostname rather |
| 11:49.26 | daniel_jackson | thats your WAN |
| 11:49.43 | daniel_jackson | on your LAN your router is 192.168.0.1 |
| 11:50.20 | daniel_jackson | that what your computer connect to |
| 11:50.41 | Rawk | so is my IP address my WAN address? |
| 11:51.24 | daniel_jackson | your router has to address one to the outside world (WAN) and you to you locally (LAN) |
| 11:51.45 | daniel_jackson | thats two addresses |
| 11:52.39 | Rawk | but is my WAN address my IP address? (the one that I get when I check it on the net) |
| 11:52.53 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 11:53.45 | Rawk | hmm, when I use that one it doesn't seem to work |
| 11:53.46 | daniel_jackson | if your computer was plugged directly into your cable modem your computer would get the "WAN" |
| 11:54.12 | daniel_jackson | the names I use are just examples |
| 11:54.43 | daniel_jackson | go to speedguide.net do the analysis |
| 11:56.03 | daniel_jackson | under "broadband" -> Broadband tools -> Analyzer |
| 11:57.08 | daniel_jackson | you should then see "TCP properties for IP = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ()" |
| 11:57.31 | daniel_jackson | that is your WAN address |
| 11:58.00 | daniel_jackson | but you need to access your router from your LAN |
| 11:58.20 | daniel_jackson | you there still |
| 11:58.27 | Rawk | I think my IP address is dynamic, it's changed since the last time I checked |
| 11:58.54 | daniel_jackson | thats why I use dyndns.org |
| 11:59.22 | daniel_jackson | its a free redirect for dynamic ip addressed |
| 11:59.50 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 12:00.21 | Rawk | which thing do I click on? lol |
| 12:00.33 | Rawk | Home Solutions? |
| 12:00.43 | daniel_jackson | no broadban |
| 12:00.47 | daniel_jackson | d |
| 12:00.59 | daniel_jackson | then broadband tools |
| 12:01.23 | daniel_jackson | then TCP/IP analyzer |
| 12:02.01 | Rawk | I don't see a link called broadband from the main page (dyndns.org) |
| 12:02.21 | daniel_jackson | oh I thought you meant speedguide |
| 12:02.26 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 12:03.03 | daniel_jackson | click services |
| 12:03.06 | Rawk | where to in dyndns.org? |
| 12:03.17 | daniel_jackson | click services |
| 12:03.24 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:03.29 | daniel_jackson | Dynamic DNS - A free DNS service for those with dynamic IP addresses |
| 12:03.36 | daniel_jackson | click there |
| 12:03.49 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:04.05 | Rawk | Available Domains? |
| 12:04.51 | Rawk | is that the button I click on? |
| 12:04.54 | daniel_jackson | http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ |
| 12:05.07 | daniel_jackson | go there |
| 12:05.25 | Rawk | yep, now to Available Domains? |
| 12:05.50 | daniel_jackson | add dynamic dns |
| 12:06.14 | Rawk | hmm, you have to log in |
| 12:06.30 | daniel_jackson | go ahead and register |
| 12:07.21 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:08.14 | daniel_jackson | did it tell you to respond to an activation email?? |
| 12:08.54 | Rawk | not there yet :-) |
| 12:08.59 | daniel_jackson | ok sry |
| 12:10.58 | Rawk | hmm, I have to read all that Policy? :-( |
| 12:11.30 | daniel_jackson | no |
| 12:12.01 | daniel_jackson | don't worry about reading it |
| 12:13.18 | CBG | who ever reads any policies? ;) |
| 12:13.23 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 12:14.07 | CBG | I don't think I ever read any policy, terms, agreement, etc online. |
| 12:15.02 | daniel_jackson | yeah what are "policy, terms, agreements" ? lol |
| 12:15.45 | Rawk | still wrestling with it...... |
| 12:15.59 | daniel_jackson | don't read it |
| 12:17.34 | Rawk | not the policy! it was refusing my usr name |
| 12:17.49 | daniel_jackson | "rawk"? |
| 12:18.21 | Rawk | yes? |
| 12:18.45 | daniel_jackson | try "rawk_bzflag" |
| 12:19.07 | Rawk | I've done I just need to activate |
| 12:19.19 | daniel_jackson | ok do it! lol |
| 12:21.11 | Rawk | ok, I'm in |
| 12:21.41 | daniel_jackson | oh the left column click my services |
| 12:22.53 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:23.16 | Rawk | now what? |
| 12:23.50 | daniel_jackson | under host level services click "add host services" |
| 12:24.51 | daniel_jackson | then add dynamic dns host |
| 12:25.35 | Rawk | then what? |
| 12:27.04 | daniel_jackson | you see where it says "Hostname" make up a hostname, it could be "poptart" |
| 12:27.57 | Rawk | yup |
| 12:28.14 | daniel_jackson | under that put your WAN address |
| 12:28.30 | daniel_jackson | where it says ip address |
| 12:28.31 | Rawk | already there |
| 12:28.31 | *** join/#bzflag A_Heart_Attack (n=bzhearta@ool-44c748c9.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 12:28.41 | Rawk | daniel_jackson, ramjet.homelinux.net |
| 12:29.06 | daniel_jackson | cool click add host and your done for that portion |
| 12:29.24 | Rawk | yup, done |
| 12:30.10 | daniel_jackson | no all you need to do is log into your router, and setup the port redirection |
| 12:30.35 | daniel_jackson | sleepy makes typos |
| 12:30.48 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 12:31.25 | daniel_jackson | it may help if you tell me what brand and model router you have |
| 12:31.30 | Rawk | hmm, I can't do that I don't know the password |
| 12:31.46 | daniel_jackson | usually the default is password |
| 12:32.18 | daniel_jackson | but what brand is it? |
| 12:32.24 | Rawk | this is my dad's computer, and there is a password set up |
| 12:32.48 | Rawk | D-Link DSL-504 |
| 12:33.14 | daniel_jackson | type 192.168.0.1 |
| 12:33.23 | daniel_jackson | in a browser |
| 12:33.32 | daniel_jackson | username:admin |
| 12:34.32 | daniel_jackson | password:passowrd |
| 12:34.32 | daniel_jackson | password:password |
| 12:34.32 | Rawk | yea, but my brother and dad set up a username and password |
| 12:34.34 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 12:35.00 | Rawk | I'll have to do it some other time ;-) |
| 12:35.05 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 12:35.24 | daniel_jackson | let me at least give you something to tell the |
| 12:35.26 | daniel_jackson | m |
| 12:35.49 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:36.11 | daniel_jackson | are you in the USA? |
| 12:36.51 | Rawk | no as you see here http://my.bzflag.org/bb/groupcp.php?g=19136 I am not |
| 12:37.48 | daniel_jackson | duh! lol |
| 12:38.33 | Rawk | do you want to give me some instructions? |
| 12:39.35 | Rawk | daniel_jackson??? |
| 12:39.56 | daniel_jackson | well its obivious then tell the to enable port redirect |
| 12:40.13 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:40.40 | Rawk | anyway, how are you get with that plugin? |
| 12:40.41 | daniel_jackson | for port 5154 to be redirect to your server ip address |
| 12:40.48 | Rawk | *going |
| 12:41.00 | Rawk | ok |
| 12:41.32 | daniel_jackson | I recompiled and now I get a map loading error! lol |
| 12:41.42 | Rawk | heh |
| 12:41.54 | daniel_jackson | I'll work on it later |
| 12:42.12 | daniel_jackson | but I think the plugins are working |
| 12:42.23 | Rawk | try them |
| 12:42.44 | Rawk | are you starting the server? |
| 12:42.52 | daniel_jackson | I will but first I need to get whatever little sleep I can get |
| 12:43.08 | Rawk | ok, lol |
| 12:43.24 | Rawk | I better get to bed to |
| 12:44.00 | daniel_jackson | its up but you can't login because of the map error, I'll have re-recompile it, and remember you now are and owner on my server |
| 12:44.44 | daniel_jackson | well I'll see you probably in 8 hours |
| 12:44.45 | Rawk | ok, I think I'll head to bed 01:44 am NZST |
| 12:44.59 | daniel_jackson | 5:47AM here |
| 12:45.17 | daniel_jackson | good night! lol |
| 12:45.23 | Rawk | I'll see you when I see ya |
| 12:45.26 | Rawk | bye! |
| 12:45.30 | daniel_jackson | bye |
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| 14:42.53 | JonathanD | howdy |
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| 15:08.37 | JonathanD | is it possible to change the mouse movement code so that rate of turn is based on the speed the mouse is moving in a particular direction, instead of location in "the box" |
| 15:11.02 | A_Heart_Attack | probbly |
| 15:11.06 | A_Heart_Attack | *probably |
| 15:11.12 | A_Heart_Attack | i just dont know how |
| 15:12.09 | JonathanD | A_Heart_Attack: for using the erasor point mouse, btw |
| 15:12.42 | JonathanD | with a real mouse it's possible to figure out where your mouse is by the location of hte mouse (physically) this is not possible with a trackpoint |
| 15:14.18 | L4m3r | uh... keyboard? :\ |
| 15:15.14 | L4m3r | if you bind the "slow keyboard motion" key at a point that's convenient to toggle, you'll get about 75% of the precision of a mouse (enough for my needs) |
| 15:18.07 | JonathanD | L4m3r: I can't stand keyboad... |
| 15:18.16 | JonathanD | but lemme try that |
| 15:19.27 | JonathanD | bleh :p |
| 15:19.40 | JonathanD | would be alot more useful it it only toggles left/right speed :( |
| 15:21.23 | L4m3r | heh |
| 15:21.42 | L4m3r | now THAT is something you could mod relatively easily |
| 15:21.52 | JonathanD | probably :P |
| 15:22.00 | JonathanD | I think "fixing |
| 15:22.05 | JonathanD | the mouse would be more usable |
| 15:22.11 | JonathanD | I'll give it a whirl |
| 15:22.16 | L4m3r | hehe |
| 15:22.25 | L4m3r | you could also invest in a joystick |
| 15:22.38 | JonathanD | L4m3r: I have several |
| 15:22.38 | L4m3r | since you're basically trying to use your trackpoint as one |
| 15:22.54 | JonathanD | they are decidedly less portable than the trackpoint. |
| 15:23.51 | L4m3r | heh |
| 15:24.53 | JonathanD | *shrugs* |
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| 15:31.23 | L4m3r | Mushroom Boy: I am a biiiiig nintendo fan |
| 15:31.23 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: No, you are a nintendo fanboy. there is a big diff. |
| 15:31.30 | L4m3r | bahaha pwned by jeff |
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| 16:26.42 | Mr_Molez | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 28 : Connection time-out after 11999 ms |
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| 16:32.34 | Mr_Molez | i dont see anything that would cause the server to not show players in the list except that |
| 16:45.20 | brlcad | er.. "chage those case statements to if statements for performance"?? |
| 16:46.14 | brlcad | how about running a profiler and seeing if it really matters in the least bit |
| 16:46.21 | JeffM2501 | who said that? |
| 16:47.19 | Chestal | daniel_jackson |
| 16:47.42 | JeffM2501 | should leave the tech stuff to samantha_carter |
| 16:51.29 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:52.56 | JeffM2501 | cus those compilers can't optimise a case.. naw... |
| 16:55.27 | brlcad | the logic seems somewhat flawed there.. "the compiler may likely translate the code into a comparison chain" .. so "replace the switch with a series of if-else statements" (i.e. a comparison chain) |
| 16:55.46 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 16:56.13 | JeffM2501 | and as if one bzdb lookup isn't slower then the bigest switch we do ;) |
| 16:56.31 | JeffM2501 | and we arn't doing 100's of switches per frame |
| 16:56.50 | brlcad | most code I traced down into the assembler for several compilers converts most case statements to jump tables regardless of the case values |
| 16:57.08 | brlcad | at least if you turn on any level of optimization |
| 16:57.09 | JeffM2501 | that sounds optimaly fast |
| 16:57.23 | Chestal | and nowadays it's not even obvious (at least to me), if jump tables are fast or not, with all the pipelining and branch prediction going on |
| 16:57.28 | brlcad | maybe gcc on amd64 is doing something funky |
| 16:58.02 | brlcad | yeah, it's just a wierd thing to say unequivocally that is better/worse |
| 16:58.26 | Chestal | yes, the other points on that page seem to be more or less reasonable, but this one is a bit silly |
| 16:58.52 | Chestal | and of course, for the plugin code in question, it would probably speed up bzfs by 0.00001% at most :-) |
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| 17:00.31 | brlcad | and that's probably being *very* generous :) |
| 17:02.07 | JeffM2501 | it was code in a plugin? |
| 17:02.14 | brlcad | heh, yes |
| 17:02.17 | JeffM2501 | can't be a big switch |
| 17:02.24 | JeffM2501 | 4 maybe 5 items |
| 17:02.28 | brlcad | had like 5 cases |
| 17:02.34 | JeffM2501 | whopty freaking do |
| 17:02.37 | JeffM2501 | what plugin? |
| 17:02.54 | brlcad | tournamentmode |
| 17:03.04 | JeffM2501 | and if it's an event handler, then it's only called ONCE per event |
| 17:03.07 | JeffM2501 | not a lot |
| 17:03.21 | JeffM2501 | so chestal is VERY very generous |
| 17:06.20 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
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| 17:19.32 | ToughShooter | The listing is pretty much out of date: http://sourceforge.net/pm/?group_id=3248 |
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| 17:45.47 | sysdef | hi brad |
| 17:45.53 | brlcad | ToughShooter: it's only as useful as the devs make it and how frequently it's kept up to date |
| 17:46.24 | brlcad | and regardless, activity and availability trumps any "tasks" and "plans" that ever get made regardless |
| 17:46.33 | ToughShooter | Obviously..but what's the plan? |
| 17:46.40 | brlcad | mm.. one too many regardlesses, regardless |
| 17:48.11 | brlcad | ToughShooter: I think the major overarching plan is the one that hasn't changed in a long time -- keep working on moving client-side logic and game state into the server |
| 17:48.31 | brlcad | fixing/improving networking issues can probably be added to that as well |
| 17:49.27 | brlcad | otherwise, most level of planning other than saying it for the sake of saying it is stuff that is simply discussed in here as devs are interested in working on those things |
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| 18:19.52 | JeffM2501 | and global acceptance of the fish missile |
| 18:22.50 | ruskie | fish missile??? |
| 18:22.53 | ruskie | what would that do? |
| 18:23.02 | JeffM2501 | explode! |
| 18:23.49 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:23.55 | ruskie | what a fish? |
| 18:24.04 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 18:24.05 | JeffM2501 | bbiab |
| 18:25.28 | spldart | woah.... might nice storm :-) |
| 18:32.25 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I would vote for an EU flag, rather :p |
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| 18:43.09 | spldart | Most excellent! Lighting struck the ground only 40 feet from me in my neighbors yard! I must dig for fulgurites :-D |
| 18:43.48 | spldart | It launched their us flag in the air and it floated down 20 feet away |
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| 19:28.31 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, fish missle isn't a flag |
| 19:28.33 | JeffM2501 | it's a fish |
| 19:28.35 | JeffM2501 | and a missile |
| 19:29.25 | ToughShooter | Whatever ;) |
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| 19:29.48 | ToughShooter | It sounded kind like guided missile |
| 19:32.35 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 19:32.40 | JeffM2501 | well was |
| 19:32.51 | JeffM2501 | it was GM that used a model for the shot |
| 19:34.37 | amathis | bah |
| 19:36.26 | amathis | JeffM2501, when I try to start debugging, MSVC tells me Debugging Info for 'app.exe' cannot be found, binary was not built with debbuging information |
| 19:36.41 | JeffM2501 | what is your build target? |
| 19:36.45 | JeffM2501 | debug or release? |
| 19:36.53 | amathis | but, in the project properties, I set the debug information format |
| 19:37.02 | amathis | and the config is Active(Debug) |
| 19:37.03 | JeffM2501 | in the toolbar |
| 19:37.28 | amathis | it is debug |
| 19:37.36 | JeffM2501 | you usualy don't have to set the format |
| 19:37.41 | JeffM2501 | the defaults are fine |
| 19:37.47 | JeffM2501 | asuming you did a standard project |
| 19:37.52 | JeffM2501 | what is your debug target? |
| 19:38.09 | amathis | well, the debug info format is Program Database for Edit and Continue |
| 19:38.16 | JeffM2501 | that is the default |
| 19:38.21 | JeffM2501 | what is your debug target? |
| 19:38.26 | amathis | how do I find the debug target? |
| 19:38.49 | JeffM2501 | it's part of the project properties |
| 19:38.51 | JeffM2501 | under debug |
| 19:39.23 | amathis | I don't see debug target |
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| 19:50.29 | xim | hello! anyone knows who's admin of badgerial? |
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| 19:50.48 | xim | *badgerking* |
| 19:51.24 | xim | christopher reeves wheelchair strikes again |
| 19:51.32 | Mr_Molez | yay |
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| 20:00.29 | spldart | Is CRW on masterbanlist? |
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| 20:00.45 | JeffM2501 | look and see |
| 20:01.27 | Mr_Molez | chris rulez |
| 20:01.32 | xim | lol |
| 20:01.38 | spldart | no |
| 20:01.49 | Mr_Molez | yuhu just been talking to him |
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| 20:02.03 | JeffM2501 | is he static or dynamic |
| 20:02.44 | spldart | I'm not talking to him |
| 20:02.51 | xim | Mr_Molez, what were you talking about? recipes? |
| 20:02.57 | Mr_Molez | you miss out then ;) |
| 20:03.16 | spldart | Are you CRW? |
| 20:03.16 | Mr_Molez | xim: nah cheese :D |
| 20:03.39 | xim | cheese whizz? or roquefort? |
| 20:03.41 | Mr_Molez | spldart: me ? |
| 20:03.54 | xim | rofl |
| 20:03.54 | spldart | yeah... you? |
| 20:03.58 | Mr_Molez | could be |
| 20:04.02 | spldart | ah |
| 20:04.07 | Mr_Molez | although i usually try not to talk to myself :P |
| 20:04.25 | xim | nis it hard? |
| 20:05.14 | cosmos | spldart: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/sys/199251141.html |
| 20:06.31 | Mr_Molez | woot he on mofo |
| 20:06.32 | spldart | hehe |
| 20:07.03 | CBG | not for much longer |
| 20:07.32 | CBG | ah, too slow :( |
| 20:10.50 | cosmos | reeves was permabanned on hepcat awhile back |
| 20:11.29 | spldart | by ip? static? |
| 20:11.37 | cosmos | let me see |
| 20:11.41 | spldart | :) |
| 20:11.58 | spldart | I like banning people |
| 20:12.01 | spldart | banning people is fun |
| 20:12.06 | spldart | I live to ban people |
| 20:12.07 | cosmos | 68.105.96.* |
| 20:12.12 | spldart | :) |
| 20:12.21 | cosmos | also had a guy named paulo last night try to hack us and gain admin privs |
| 20:12.33 | JBdiGriz | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.52 | spldart | go ahead JB :) |
| 20:13.08 | spldart | hrm.. paulo huh |
| 20:14.10 | cosmos | not as fun as the guy who threatened to have me put on the terrorist watch list |
| 20:14.37 | JBdiGriz | Why do you get all of the winners? |
| 20:14.50 | spldart | lol |
| 20:14.58 | cosmos | your asking me after the tas incident ;) |
| 20:15.25 | cosmos | i will admit sometimes i am a bit rough with the kiddies |
| 20:16.00 | Mr_Molez | JBdiGriz: and sometimes does a bit of your own bidding :P |
| 20:16.01 | cosmos | but putting your teammates on hunt and cussing usually leads to a confrontation |
| 20:16.13 | spldart | heh |
| 20:16.20 | Mr_Molez | such as changing lag levels :P |
| 20:16.31 | cosmos | the new lagwarn is 25 at hepcat |
| 20:16.35 | cosmos | happy now molez |
| 20:16.58 | Mr_Molez | cosmos: doesn;t bother me i wont be playing there anymore |
| 20:17.00 | cosmos | wings and beer == GUT |
| 20:17.19 | spldart | not for me.. I know when is enough... hiccup |
| 20:17.21 | cosmos | why did you get banned molez |
| 20:17.44 | Mr_Molez | dont think so |
| 20:17.45 | CBG | Hah, got him on pillbox. |
| 20:18.12 | CBG | cosmos: just banned chris reeves on borrego for as long as I can |
| 20:18.13 | cosmos | hes got a new ip |
| 20:18.23 | cosmos | that whole class a will get banned now |
| 20:18.27 | cosmos | tired of the cable modem wankers |
| 20:19.51 | spldart | Hey! I wank off to cable modem?!?!?! |
| 20:20.04 | JBdiGriz | TMI |
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| 20:20.30 | spldart | :-o |
| 20:20.31 | cosmos | hes got an ip from level3 |
| 20:20.42 | CBG | cosmos: want to pass Chris's new IP around? |
| 20:20.49 | spldart | :) |
| 20:20.53 | cosmos | 4.241.219.100 |
| 20:20.55 | CBG | I would but I don't see it on hepcat, insufficient privs :P |
| 20:21.03 | CBG | thanks. |
| 20:21.32 | gsnedders | Chris? |
| 20:21.40 | Mr_Molez | the ip is dynamic isn't it ? |
| 20:21.56 | cosmos | its a completely new range from his previous one |
| 20:22.10 | CBG | yes, Mr_Molez |
| 20:22.11 | spldart | Chris-Reeve-wheelchair... |
| 20:22.43 | CBG | he's been banned at many servers many times. |
| 20:22.57 | spldart | IB he's wanking off at his screen right now resetting his cable modem again |
| 20:23.00 | cosmos | oh dear, someones wireless network in this building is ASSMONKEY |
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| 20:23.27 | amathis | haha |
| 20:23.33 | giggsey | hmm, this is weird |
| 20:23.42 | Mr_Molez | uhoh |
| 20:24.03 | giggsey | I was just playing on bzfs.net, and I was red, and had the blue flag, when teammates got hit my geno. So every red died, but I survived. |
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| 20:24.07 | giggsey | My lag is normal |
| 20:24.14 | giggsey | (As in non-existant) |
| 20:24.21 | Mr_Molez | nice |
| 20:24.21 | giggsey | And I am running 2.0.8 windows |
| 20:24.46 | Mr_Molez | ill remember to carry a flag when genos are around :P |
| 20:24.50 | cosmos | giggsey its a miracle! |
| 20:25.06 | xim | pray the lord! |
| 20:25.13 | amathis | * Allah |
| 20:25.20 | Mr_Molez | yay allah |
| 20:25.23 | xim | whoever your lord is |
| 20:25.23 | giggsey | lol |
| 20:25.36 | amathis | Jah Rastafari |
| 20:25.37 | giggsey | I think its done it to me before as well when I had ST |
| 20:26.44 | spldart | I'm a faith filled mercenary... who's god has the most money. |
| 20:27.11 | JonathanD | I have the same problem when blender dies before my milkshake is ready. |
| 20:27.50 | giggsey | Im not complaining |
| 20:27.57 | giggsey | I just don't want to be accused of cheating :P |
| 20:28.28 | spldart | oops |
| 20:28.43 | spldart | maybe I shouldn't have crashed his blender again so soon |
| 20:29.22 | spldart | OMG they killed Gnur and Gigg.... You bastards |
| 20:29.57 | Mr_Molez | the language in here is getting extreme |
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| 20:34.03 | amathis | haha |
| 20:34.15 | amathis | this is extreme: |
| 20:34.42 | amathis | ah, called my bluff.... I didn't get kicked |
| 20:34.45 | amathis | j/k |
| 20:34.49 | blast007 | :) |
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| 20:38.45 | JeffM2501 | does "extreme" mean "stupid"? |
| 20:38.57 | spldart | hehe |
| 20:39.31 | spldart | 'time for some low lag 2.0.9 bzflag on winxp' hehe |
| 20:42.57 | Mr_Molez | possibly |
| 20:44.35 | spldart | wOW... lots of allogations of Christopher Reeves wheelchair is cheating on boxy |
| 20:44.50 | cosmos | they are not allegations |
| 20:44.53 | cosmos | they are truth |
| 20:44.54 | spldart | ah |
| 20:44.54 | Mr_Molez | you find that suprising why ? |
| 20:45.02 | spldart | umm |
| 20:45.05 | cosmos | the dude is always cheating or doing something stupid |
| 20:45.09 | spldart | who said i was surpriszed |
| 20:45.23 | Mr_Molez | "woW" |
| 20:45.25 | spldart | I'm to drunk to be suprised |
| 20:45.39 | spldart | wOW is sarcasizm |
| 20:45.46 | spldart | and drunk |
| 20:46.02 | Mr_Molez | right.. |
| 20:46.05 | spldart | right |
| 20:46.11 | spldart | now that we got that str8t |
| 20:46.47 | Mr_Molez | yes ? |
| 20:46.55 | spldart | yep |
| 20:47.04 | Mr_Molez | now what :P |
| 20:47.30 | spldart | back to boxy bish... You? ;) |
| 20:47.43 | Mr_Molez | i would rather die :P |
| 20:48.01 | Mr_Molez | ewwww |
| 20:48.04 | spldart | lol |
| 20:48.26 | JeffM2501 | you can stop now |
| 20:48.27 | JeffM2501 | REALY |
| 20:48.48 | Mr_Molez | yeh totally |
| 20:49.14 | blast007 | :/ |
| 20:50.14 | spldart | Ah... they are fixing groups on boxy |
| 20:51.32 | Mr_Molez | nuhuh |
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| 20:59.04 | amathis | haha |
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| 21:08.18 | JeffM2501 | ok so ati driver install on ubuntu == not too bad |
| 21:12.41 | amathis | awesome |
| 21:15.03 | amathis | man, I played bzflag last night and it was amazing... reminded me how much I used to love bzflag back when I played |
| 21:21.43 | amathis | JeffM2501, in VC++, the paths in the configuration are relevant to the path of the soultion file right? |
| 21:22.23 | amathis | like, if you put ../../include for an additional include dir, it is up two dir from the location of the solution file |
| 21:22.59 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:23.10 | JeffM2501 | well the location of the vcproj |
| 21:23.13 | JeffM2501 | not the solution |
| 21:23.24 | amathis | ok |
| 21:23.25 | JeffM2501 | as one solution can have many vcproj files in difrent dirs |
| 21:23.44 | amathis | and also, you don't have to add ./ as an additional include dir, it is assumed right? |
| 21:23.53 | JeffM2501 | it is assumed |
| 21:24.03 | JeffM2501 | it's part of the default paths |
| 21:24.14 | amathis | well... now I have to figure out why a source file in the same directory as a header file cannot include it |
| 21:24.29 | amathis | thanks though, I was just making sure my understanding was correct |
| 21:24.41 | JeffM2501 | did you include it as #include <> or "" ? |
| 21:25.12 | amathis | <> |
| 21:25.13 | amathis | it is a precompiled header file |
| 21:25.14 | JeffM2501 | that is why |
| 21:25.25 | JeffM2501 | <> is for system level headers ( the ones in the compiler dirs ) |
| 21:25.29 | JeffM2501 | "" is for project local ones |
| 21:25.34 | amathis | oh, ok... I am trying to compile someone elses app |
| 21:25.37 | JeffM2501 | <> won't check the project paths |
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| 21:26.53 | amathis | ok, now it works... muchas gracias |
| 21:27.16 | amathis | sorry to be off topic as well |
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| 21:39.57 | spldart | bbzzzztt |
| 21:53.37 | amathis | :-) |
| 21:55.32 | amathis | makes programming more fun that way |
| 21:56.07 | amathis | I mean, you know you were drunk when you wake up in the morning and wonder wtf this programmer is thinking and you realise it is your project |
| 21:58.19 | L4m3r | god I hate fanboys... |
| 21:58.28 | amathis | fanboys? |
| 21:58.32 | Mr_Molez | that is one of the most geekiest things i have ever heared :P |
| 21:58.55 | Bz_Win | Oh, shroomboy? |
| 21:59.02 | L4m3r | ZOMG WII HAS THE BEST CONTROLLER EVER!!!!111 |
| 21:59.12 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 21:59.27 | L4m3r | ...personally, the N64 was my favorite |
| 21:59.34 | L4m3r | too bad the rest of the console sucked |
| 21:59.53 | Bz_Win | Some of these people I wonder, do they come to talk about BZFlag or to promote thier favourite game or console...? |
| 22:00.22 | L4m3r | I know, seriously |
| 22:00.51 | L4m3r | it's like some of these people don't even play the game |
| 22:01.10 | JeffM2501 | they can't it's NOT OUT YET! |
| 22:01.17 | JeffM2501 | yet he's got it up on some pedistal |
| 22:01.27 | JeffM2501 | sad sad little basement boy |
| 22:01.32 | L4m3r | lol |
| 22:01.44 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 22:02.13 | L4m3r | sat too close to the TV when he was a kid, and radiation from Super Mario 3 leaked into his brain |
| 22:02.43 | JeffM2501 | no, he's still a kid |
| 22:02.47 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:02.48 | JeffM2501 | just it's the only system he's ever owned |
| 22:03.20 | L4m3r | I've only owned a Genesis, but I'm not a sega fanboy :x |
| 22:03.25 | Bz_Win | Either that or he has an older brother who's a fanboy |
| 22:03.31 | L4m3r | lol |
| 22:03.46 | L4m3r | an old friend of mine is a nintendo fanboy... he's my age |
| 22:04.03 | L4m3r | er, more like a fan, he plays xbox too |
| 22:04.10 | L4m3r | not rabid enough to be a fanboy |
| 22:04.37 | Bz_Win | "Nintendo Groupie"...icky |
| 22:04.44 | L4m3r | lol |
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| 22:04.52 | L4m3r | nothing wrong with liking nintendo |
| 22:05.36 | L4m3r | just... don't act like they're the only decent company out there |
| 22:05.47 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 22:06.06 | Bz_Win | I don't think I've turned on my gamecube for about a year |
| 22:06.11 | L4m3r | Honestly, I think the whole console market has been a bit of a joke since Microsoft cracked it open |
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| 22:07.19 | Bz_Win | I actually like the xbox |
| 22:08.17 | L4m3r | no, it's not a bad system at all |
| 22:08.40 | L4m3r | just... there haven't been any awesome games other than Halo, it seems |
| 22:09.04 | L4m3r | everything else is cross-platform |
| 22:09.56 | L4m3r | seems like everything else these days, heh |
| 22:10.17 | L4m3r | sequels and mediocre releases, and a preoccupation with eye candy |
| 22:20.57 | cosmos | i like the atari 2600 |
| 22:31.09 | a_meteorite | Save me from those who think I am the all mighty BZFlag Master who knows all! |
| 22:34.27 | Bz_Win | met, teach me your tricks |
| 22:34.29 | Bz_Win | :p |
| 22:39.07 | a_meteorite | Bz_Win: try explaining how to globally register and use it |
| 22:39.29 | a_meteorite | "I registered a callsign "b00m" and activated the account by clicking on the link sent in the email. How am I supposed to "validate myself" to begin using that callsign while logging in bzflag laser rooms? It doesnt allow me to use that callsign saying I need to identify/validate myself!!" |
| 22:40.55 | Bz_Win | do it! |
| 22:40.56 | Bz_Win | :E |
| 22:41.27 | Bz_Win | You know he is a 11year old when he calls things "rooms" |
| 22:41.31 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 22:41.38 | Bz_Win | Probably just fresh out of AOl chat rooms... |
| 22:41.52 | a_meteorite | And, it's boxy war. Not laser rooms. |
| 22:41.53 | a_meteorite | :) |
| 22:42.01 | Bz_Win | hhe |
| 22:42.36 | Bz_Win | I got a PM from someone asking how to register... |
| 22:42.38 | Bz_Win | I Was like |
| 22:42.45 | Bz_Win | errrr, your already registered |
| 22:42.51 | a_meteorite | lol! |
| 22:43.21 | Bz_Win | "no no no, Iwant to register on boxy server, not on this furom" |
| 22:43.57 | a_meteorite | at least I'm not alone |
| 22:44.18 | Bz_Win | :) |
| 22:44.19 | Bz_Win | :P |
| 22:46.07 | CBG | I had a guy on hepcat pillbox a week or two ago, he asked to be admin. |
| 22:46.23 | a_meteorite | I get admin requests for boxy war all the time |
| 22:46.24 | CBG | I was in a good mood so I explained that asking to be admin would get him banned at most servers. |
| 22:46.34 | a_meteorite | then you banned him? |
| 22:46.37 | CBG | For the next 15 minutes He Would Not Shut Up. |
| 22:46.44 | CBG | No, It was too damn funny. |
| 22:46.47 | a_meteorite | aw |
| 22:46.59 | CBG | He's called "Dragon", heh. |
| 22:47.04 | Bz_Win | Was his name "atomic123" by any chance? |
| 22:47.06 | Bz_Win | oh |
| 22:47.07 | Bz_Win | :p |
| 22:47.24 | Bz_Win | I had some guy on boxy about a week ago who could oull ip's out of his ass |
| 22:47.30 | Bz_Win | Wouldn't stop asking |
| 22:47.55 | a_meteorite | was he globally regged? |
| 22:47.57 | spldart | YEAH brought silver to the top |
| 22:48.17 | Bz_Win | Met: no |
| 22:48.20 | a_meteorite | darn |
| 22:48.27 | a_meteorite | I wanted to use my Muted group more :) |
| 22:48.40 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 22:48.55 | spldart | quite buzzed amathis :-p |
| 22:49.31 | CBG | Dragon's globally reg'd/ |
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| 22:50.17 | Bz_Win | He is...just today at boxy he asked to be an admin at *.bzfusion.net |
| 22:50.25 | Bz_Win | I don't see why he wants to |
| 22:50.33 | Bz_Win | its basicaly a test server :P |
| 22:50.36 | a_meteorite | to make him feel good |
| 22:50.48 | Bz_Win | I just left, never anwsered him |
| 22:50.57 | Bz_Win | He's probably in a frenzy to find me now |
| 22:51.01 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 22:51.07 | Bz_Win | :p |
| 22:58.11 | Bz_Win | Uh oh... |
| 22:58.30 | Bz_Win | My neibour just ran over the hose with his lawn tractor :E |
| 22:58.34 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 22:59.59 | Bz_Win | Thats basically the look I have on my fave now as I watch him keep cutting and not notice a thing |
| 23:00.18 | Bz_Win | ... |
| 23:00.45 | blast007 | hehehe |
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