| 00:13.33 | JeffM2501 | probably what ever it's set to on connect |
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| 01:01.50 | menotume | Thumper_: pongo |
| 01:02.43 | romfis | meno! |
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| 02:08.48 | uso | anyone in the mood to fix the drop bad flag display in the serverlist? only 3 numbers to change ;) |
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| 03:08.49 | brlcad | uso: yes, limbo |
| 03:14.00 | uso | hmm, looked like no for me as GameKeeper::player::count isn't zero if observers are there, and it checks for CientState > PlayerInLimbo |
| 03:26.33 | pyr0 | exit |
| 03:26.35 | pyr0 | whoops |
| 03:26.39 | pyr0 | wrong terminal |
| 03:26.46 | pyr0 | this is closing anyways :) |
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| 03:35.21 | brlcad | uso: hm, that's curious (probably a bug) though I was referring to the client's state .. they should be in limbo from their perspective |
| 03:35.36 | brlcad | something else might be happening on the server that causes them to get set dead or somesuch |
| 03:35.43 | brlcad | but that'd be a bug imho |
| 03:52.57 | uso | my start was a match server which does not report player count to the list server after a match was played |
| 03:53.22 | uso | it does report zero player count as long as ganeOver is set |
| 03:53.56 | uso | gameOver will only be reset if player count is zero, but it does not go to there as long as an observer is logged in |
| 03:54.15 | uso | *to zero |
| 03:55.38 | uso | basis problem is probably that the timelimit mode is used for two differend modes, match servers and map rotating with contrary goals |
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| 13:36.51 | spldart | What causes bzflag client to exit with the statement "No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" |
| 13:37.16 | spldart | I have fonts packages installed... Am I missing a link perhaps? |
| 13:37.24 | menotume | heh |
| 13:37.32 | spldart | This is a etch ver of deb with gnome |
| 13:37.35 | Mr_Molez | ur missing ur data (directory folder :P |
| 13:37.39 | menotume | try -directory <path to bzflag data> |
| 13:39.39 | spldart | data isn't in /usr/local/bin with bzflag... but I used make install in this instances I thought that was automatically done |
| 13:40.01 | Mr_Molez | it will be in a share not in a bin dir :P |
| 13:40.02 | menotume | it should have been |
| 13:41.00 | menotume | /usr/share/bzflag/ |
| 13:41.07 | spldart | I have all my data in /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 13:41.53 | spldart | Actually that's where the install placed the data |
| 13:43.39 | Thumper_ | menotume: ping |
| 13:43.50 | menotume | pong |
| 13:44.49 | spldart | Ok.. so bzflag -directory /usr/share/bzflag/ allows the head client to start fine.. but can I make a link in order to avoid using the -directory option? |
| 13:45.24 | spldart | err s/usr/share/bzflag / /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 13:50.52 | Mr_Molez | u could move bzflag to bzflag1 make a bash script to load bzflag1 -directory and save it as bzflag,, or you could put the data dir where bzflag is looking for it |
| 13:54.35 | spldart | I'd rather move the bzflagdata dir to wherever bz is looking for it |
| 13:59.26 | spldart | Any ideas why build and install from cvs would leave the data in the wrong place for bzflag to find automatically? Or is that likely a big in debian etch or perhaps bzflag head |
| 13:59.45 | spldart | s/big/bug |
| 13:59.46 | spldart | lol |
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| 14:15.36 | blast007 | spldart: first of all, make sure you don't already have a 'set directory' in your config file |
| 14:15.56 | blast007 | if you don't, then use -directory once, and it will stick |
| 14:19.41 | spldart | kew |
| 14:20.23 | spldart | bzfx.net:6026 could use a flag reset... any admin's in here? |
| 14:24.21 | blast007 | I'm not sure how the installer script decides where to throw the data files |
| 14:25.31 | ToughShooter | spldart: You should better avoid that server |
| 14:25.34 | ToughShooter | Bad admin |
| 14:27.55 | spldart | really? |
| 14:28.04 | ToughShooter | There's the yugi |
| 14:28.40 | spldart | the.. yugi? |
| 14:28.51 | ToughShooter | the one known from hepcat |
| 14:28.59 | spldart | oh |
| 14:29.02 | ToughShooter | Ask Birdie ;) |
| 14:29.26 | ToughShooter | bzwar server should also be avoided, a lot of bad admins there |
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| 14:31.18 | spldart | Hrm.. when I'm serious bzing I'll do silvercat, hepcat,pimpi and maybe some ducati but when I'm just shooting everything I'll often get on 2 tanks or the bzfx and just have fun shooting everything I can |
| 14:31.20 | spldart | :) |
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| 14:44.18 | Mr_Molez | ToughShooter: in your opinion |
| 14:45.44 | Mr_Molez | although publically disgracing servers is pretty pathetic in itself :P |
| 14:46.00 | ToughShooter | Mr_Molez: I speak of people who have been masterbanned and technically still are |
| 14:46.25 | Mr_Molez | the bzfx.net servers are owned by a_meteorite arnt they ? |
| 14:46.53 | ToughShooter | no idea, I only saw yugi being admin there |
| 14:47.20 | ToughShooter | and star wars is at bzwar |
| 14:47.45 | ToughShooter | and sox, too |
| 14:48.11 | Mr_Molez | i think you should talk to the owner before you boycott them |
| 14:48.34 | Mr_Molez | cuz thats low dude ;) |
| 14:48.48 | ToughShooter | ooh, I told it 1st Consul |
| 14:49.07 | ToughShooter | weeks ago |
| 14:50.20 | Mr_Molez | im pretty sure a_metorite owns the bzfx.net servers |
| 14:51.28 | ToughShooter | Didn't saw any info in regard as to who owns it when I connected to one |
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| 15:13.46 | spldart | I've been in direct conflict with star wars, and redsoxfan |
| 15:14.11 | spldart | I even got banned from that was racetrack map by one of the cops there |
| 15:14.26 | spldart | no the louman racetrack.. I was hosting that at the time but the other one |
| 15:15.14 | spldart | I think, but not sure, I had a disagreement with a_meteorite a long time ago |
| 15:15.22 | ToughShooter | Seems like I am not alone with my opinion :p |
| 15:15.51 | blast007 | isn't star wars == redsox? or am I getting my aliases mixed up again? :) |
| 15:16.03 | ToughShooter | star wars is not redsox |
| 15:16.08 | blast007 | k |
| 15:16.24 | ToughShooter | star wars is killer_1 then YOUR DEAD |
| 15:16.31 | spldart | I had fired up one of my older machines and had a bz install from many many months ago and found a_meteorite was silenced.. I don't remember why though |
| 15:16.34 | blast007 | ah yeah, him... |
| 15:16.46 | spldart | OOOoooOO... Your Dead got on my ish list pretty good |
| 15:17.05 | ToughShooter | redsox is marines, legend (rather legendary troublemaker) etc |
| 15:17.42 | ToughShooter | I've heard YOUR DEAD became admin on one server, then banned all |
| 15:18.03 | spldart | lol |
| 15:18.23 | ToughShooter | spldart: "my ish list" ? |
| 15:18.36 | blast007 | I blacklisted all the servers that contain "your dead" in them |
| 15:18.51 | spldart | ish being subbed for sh!t to adhere to the language rule |
| 15:19.03 | ToughShooter | ooh |
| 15:19.08 | ToughShooter | sry :/ |
| 15:19.19 | spldart | It's a net'ism I got from Off-Topic.net |
| 15:19.30 | spldart | alot of net-ism have spawned there |
| 15:20.52 | spldart | Methinks there will be a special tab in server listing in new client for these problem servers who have associated with masterbanned individuals :-) |
| 15:20.56 | blast007 | I got banned once by Cruel Dog for "cheating" :) |
| 15:21.13 | spldart | I remember him... |
| 15:21.18 | spldart | I got into with him to |
| 15:21.40 | blast007 | started when I had GM, and I was on top of a building with a teleporter |
| 15:21.54 | blast007 | he tried to "sneak up" on my by going up the teleporter with ST |
| 15:22.04 | blast007 | of course, I heard him, and turned around and shot him |
| 15:22.08 | spldart | :) |
| 15:22.52 | spldart | <EFud>be vewy vewy quiet... I'm huntan tank</EFud> |
| 15:22.53 | blast007 | he called me a cheater, I called him..uh..something else, then he threatened me with a server rule about "not insulting admins" |
| 15:23.21 | ToughShooter | blast007: Do you know whether Cruel Dog cheated once? |
| 15:23.38 | blast007 | not sure |
| 15:23.53 | spldart | I've only caught him raising trouble |
| 15:23.56 | SpazzyMcGee | these kids feel like it's their obligation to filter out anything that might be anywhere near offensive |
| 15:23.59 | spldart | but not cheating |
| 15:24.16 | SpazzyMcGee | i got kicked by cruel dog for saying the abbreviation "wtf" |
| 15:24.17 | ToughShooter | well, star wars has impersonated him a number of times so I'm not sure |
| 15:24.41 | blast007 | then I left that server, was playing on another server, just fine for like 2 hours, then he comes in, plays for a while, and bans me for cheating |
| 15:24.47 | spldart | I've been warned for WTF myself |
| 15:24.52 | blast007 | and then nobody could figure out how to unban me, cuz there was an idban too |
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| 15:41.25 | spldart | reboot |
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| 15:45.40 | spldart | speaking of problem users... I have someone who wont quit using the name PORNHOLIO. Am I overeacting if I choose to ban him? Opions requested |
| 15:46.12 | A_Heart_Attack | naa |
| 15:46.17 | A_Heart_Attack | go ahead and ban him |
| 15:46.27 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Ban him. He sounds like a prick. |
| 15:46.44 | spldart | that's how I was leaning |
| 15:48.18 | orange | if you ask him to change it and he won't, that's how you decide |
| 15:49.07 | orange | it's all simple, have clear and published rules, and then if someone breaks them they will know why and what will happen |
| 15:51.08 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I prefer the 'bofh' method, since it makes decisions so much simpler. |
| 15:53.40 | JeffM2501 | ahh gotta love a job where the only sort of office politics is about coffie :) |
| 15:54.31 | spldart | IMO "This is my home server. Watch the language" seems to logically cover this. I'd hate to spam my own chat box with elaborate srvmsg and admsg's |
| 15:54.53 | spldart | coffy 8-X |
| 15:56.18 | orange | find another server's rules that you agree with and just link to them :-) |
| 15:56.24 | spldart | LOL |
| 15:56.53 | spldart | Perhaps "STFU and play" would be better :) |
| 15:57.09 | JeffM2501 | you have no requirements for any information actualy :) |
| 15:57.10 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 15:57.22 | JeffM2501 | it's all up to what you feel is reasonable |
| 15:57.26 | orange | no, no requirements |
| 15:57.34 | orange | but it helps people feel that it is less arbitrary |
| 15:57.41 | orange | so it makes them happier, if not quite happy |
| 15:57.46 | JeffM2501 | if it says "watch the language" on join, that sounds good enoguh to me :) |
| 15:58.06 | JeffM2501 | if they don't read the join message, why would they read the other messages :) |
| 15:58.12 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 15:58.17 | JeffM2501 | I've seen that if somone is gonna be an ass, they are gonna be an ass |
| 15:58.28 | orange | JeffM2501: for simple rules, yes |
| 15:58.30 | JeffM2501 | and they use the "I didn't know" excusse just to try and be an ass more |
| 15:58.49 | orange | to me published rules are the cornerstone of a well-run site |
| 15:59.00 | orange | otherwise your admins don't know what to enforce, and how to enforce it |
| 15:59.04 | orange | everything is arbitrary |
| 15:59.29 | spldart | well... I see the need for all mod's on a server to have a well spelled out protocol for policing the site uniformly |
| 16:00.32 | spldart | In fact.. it would be cool to have the ability for my to type out page of rules and regulations that any client could call and have displayed in their own chat box but not all the other players |
| 16:00.45 | orange | you can |
| 16:00.48 | orange | it's the /help system |
| 16:00.51 | spldart | Oh yeah |
| 16:00.53 | orange | and then you can use /sendhelp |
| 16:00.55 | orange | which rocks |
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| 16:01.02 | orange | /sendhelp spldart language |
| 16:01.03 | spldart | I'll have to set that up |
| 16:01.17 | orange | that's where most of silvercat's rules are published |
| 16:01.18 | spldart | well that's it right ther |
| 16:01.34 | orange | and then you have a join messages that says "for rules: type /help rules" |
| 16:01.45 | orange | and that is a menu of the available rules help files |
| 16:01.48 | spldart | so /help in a server that has pages set up will bring up whatever they have set up |
| 16:01.54 | orange | which also double as in-game reminders for people with /sendhelp |
| 16:02.01 | spldart | kew |
| 16:02.11 | orange | yes /help lists all available help pages |
| 16:02.17 | spldart | was that new for 2.0 environment? |
| 16:02.19 | orange | you could write your own rules help page to list the others |
| 16:02.27 | orange | sendhelp is new in the last year or so |
| 16:04.07 | spldart | Hrm... I need to shoot some tanks real quick |
| 16:04.38 | Silver[a] | its a wonder any of us get anything done with this distraction called bz. |
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| 16:17.39 | spldart | w0rd |
| 16:17.44 | linuxboy | sup |
| 16:18.00 | spldart | getting outclassed on two castles though :( |
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| 16:56.00 | Mr_Molez | :P |
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| 17:04.29 | cosmos | hrm |
| 17:16.21 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/menus.cpp: try to load the remote BGM before the local one ( cus it's cooler ) |
| 17:16.39 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/mainMenu.cpp: seletct the default item |
| 17:17.14 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/net/src/netLag.cpp: cast warnings |
| 17:18.22 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/server/ (inc/serverGame.h src/serverGame.cpp): game packet hooks |
| 17:18.43 | spldart | hrm |
| 17:19.33 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/net/inc/netMessages.h: ws |
| 17:20.57 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hrm |
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| 17:35.55 | brlcad | JeffM2501: i finally got around to processing a roll of film that had something I thought you might like, reminded me of you almost instantly when I saw it |
| 17:36.09 | JeffM2501 | film? |
| 17:36.33 | brlcad | yeah, the kind that go click shhzzzzzt! |
| 17:36.42 | JonathanD | they still make that? |
| 17:36.44 | JeffM2501 | how many mega pixels is the film? |
| 17:37.07 | CBG | what size card you got, brlcad? |
| 17:37.59 | JeffM2501 | so it's a picture of an anime fangirl? |
| 17:38.00 | brlcad | actually, film is "effectively" about 100MP for the decent stuff |
| 17:38.18 | brlcad | as you can scan a negative around 10k dpi |
| 17:39.11 | brlcad | these shots weren't scanned that high, but good enough for the simple pics they are |
| 17:40.45 | brlcad | it'll finish uploading in a few min |
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| 17:56.08 | brlcad | JeffM2501: http://bzflag.bz/~sean/photos/ArizonaFloridaMichigan/ArizonaFloridaMichigan-Pages/Image4.html |
| 17:56.23 | brlcad | dunno what it is about it, but it made me laugh |
| 17:56.36 | JeffM2501 | it's orange |
| 17:56.38 | brlcad | i think it's because it's in the same style as some you've made |
| 17:56.38 | JeffM2501 | wiered |
| 17:56.47 | JeffM2501 | it's got the big tires |
| 17:56.53 | JeffM2501 | looks kinda like the robotank |
| 17:56.59 | brlcad | http://bzflag.bz/~sean/photos/ArizonaFloridaMichigan/ArizonaFloridaMichigan-Pages/Image5.html |
| 17:57.28 | JeffM2501 | mmmm SR-71 |
| 17:57.48 | brlcad | yes, she was a beauty |
| 17:58.08 | JeffM2501 | oooo an A10 too |
| 17:58.10 | JeffM2501 | those are cool |
| 17:58.43 | JeffM2501 | the orange thing does look rather polygonal |
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| 17:59.55 | JBdiGriz | It doesn't look like orange |
| 18:00.06 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 18:00.09 | JeffM2501 | more rust |
| 18:00.20 | JeffM2501 | like AZ desert |
| 18:00.26 | JBdiGriz | orange doesn't have tires in the last picture I saw of him |
| 18:02.47 | JeffM2501 | maybe they were in the shop |