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| 02:39.13 | uso | listserv is unreachable since 10 mins, not even a ping reply |
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| 02:47.52 | sicshooter | Just in case no one has mentioned it, the list server is down |
| 02:48.12 | inchworm | uso mentioned it at 39min after the hour :) |
| 02:48.20 | sicshooter | Ahhh, ok :) |
| 02:48.39 | inchworm | apperently the server appears down.. |
| 02:49.11 | sicshooter | ok thanks, I just wnated to make sure that it had been mentioned |
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| 02:50.49 | ryanakca | are the forums down? |
| 02:51.39 | inchworm | the server may be down |
| 02:51.50 | inchworm | dunno...just the general opinion i'm getting |
| 02:52.23 | ryanakca | kk |
| 02:52.40 | ryanakca | I'll check in the morning :) |
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| 03:00.58 | uso | brlcad isn't here, anybody else who could have a look at the listserv? bryjen? menotume? |
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| 03:03.17 | daniel_jackson | hey I just wanted to report that my.bzflag.org is down, I think I might have killed it |
| 03:03.31 | inchworm | daniel_jackson, is there more of a story than that? |
| 03:03.58 | daniel_jackson | well yeah |
| 03:04.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 03:04.50 | daniel_jackson | I was changing my account info then I submitted when everything went freeze on the page. |
| 03:05.04 | daniel_jackson | I even did a ping |
| 03:05.19 | daniel_jackson | I got the address but know response |
| 03:05.30 | daniel_jackson | but no repsonse |
| 03:05.53 | inchworm | daniel_jackson, don't think it was your fault, ultimatly. User input should never crash a system |
| 03:06.06 | inchworm | daniel_jackson, but coincidents do happen |
| 03:06.13 | daniel_jackson | prior to that I was looking for meteorite to ask him about becoming a cop |
| 03:06.55 | uso | would be a mysterious account if it had crashed the server ;) |
| 03:07.09 | daniel_jackson | It just scared the hell out of me |
| 03:07.14 | inchworm | :p |
| 03:07.40 | daniel_jackson | I don't want to be known a the "server killer" |
| 03:07.54 | inchworm | i can see it now |
| 03:07.59 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:08.00 | inchworm | daniel_jackson, (server killer) |
| 03:08.56 | inchworm | we'll get a server of the most wanted with posters and you'll be at the entrance :) |
| 03:09.35 | daniel_jackson | but it can't be my real picture it has to be from stargate |
| 03:09.51 | purple_cow | it can be your real picture |
| 03:09.52 | purple_cow | we have ways |
| 03:10.09 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:10.10 | inchworm | lol..didn't know the monitor scans your face 60 times a second did ya? |
| 03:10.53 | daniel_jackson | more like every 60 ms I have an LCD monitor |
| 03:11.52 | inchworm | 6/100 of a second... |
| 03:11.59 | inchworm | goes to what... |
| 03:12.28 | daniel_jackson | well its fast anyway |
| 03:12.32 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:12.33 | inchworm | 17 fps? |
| 03:12.37 | inchworm | grr |
| 03:12.47 | daniel_jackson | I get around 23 |
| 03:12.51 | inchworm | 16.66 |
| 03:12.56 | bryjen | ibot: 100 / 6 |
| 03:12.58 | ibot | 16.666666666667 |
| 03:12.58 | uso | 5 points :) |
| 03:13.00 | purple_cow | inchworm: ms is *milli*seconds |
| 03:13.11 | purple_cow | and that's not how LCDs work anyways |
| 03:13.12 | inchworm | milli -> thousandths |
| 03:13.19 | bryjen | ibot: 1000 / 60 |
| 03:13.20 | ibot | 16.666666666667 |
| 03:13.25 | inchworm | ;) |
| 03:13.27 | daniel_jackson | the server killer agrees |
| 03:13.42 | uso | it's all your fault :) |
| 03:14.07 | purple_cow | oh right 60 |
| 03:14.09 | daniel_jackson | don't say that I'll kill your server and your workstation! |
| 03:14.19 | inchworm | lol |
| 03:14.19 | daniel_jackson | seeyah |
| 03:14.37 | bryjen | purple_cow: lower altitude causing pressure on the brain |
| 03:14.52 | purple_cow | or just too much oxygen |
| 03:15.19 | daniel_jackson | so does anyone know how to get in touch with that server owner to restart the system |
| 03:15.47 | bryjen | prolonged exposure to a 20% concentration seems to result in death (after about 70 years) ;) |
| 03:15.58 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:16.00 | inchworm | spare me from such a fate :) |
| 03:17.31 | purple_cow | seriously, i take a deep breath and start choking because there's just too much air |
| 03:17.35 | daniel_jackson | I spent a week in yellowstone that gets up to 10,000 feet |
| 03:17.47 | uso | i always knew oxygen is aggressive :) |
| 03:18.12 | inchworm | causes excess human brain rust |
| 03:18.13 | spldart | I feel an oxidation episode coming on |
| 03:18.17 | daniel_jackson | hello O-1 explosive! |
| 03:19.16 | daniel_jackson | and how to you become a member of this room? |
| 03:19.29 | inchworm | using /join? |
| 03:19.46 | daniel_jackson | well yeah I did that twice |
| 03:20.20 | inchworm | daniel_jackson, translate room to channels for bryjen :) |
| 03:20.57 | daniel_jackson | el roomo el channels |
| 03:21.04 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:22.03 | bryjen | ~seen brlcad |
| 03:22.13 | ibot | brlcad <n=sean@bz.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5h 17m 54s ago, saying: 'try to match the client-side logic exactly if you can.. those pause conditions were the cause of much grief to get working just right'. |
| 03:22.17 | spldart | A room... with a moose |
| 03:22.32 | daniel_jackson | brb I have to grab some kleenex. just joking |
| 03:24.10 | daniel_jackson | so my pings are still getting no response |
| 03:24.29 | spldart | me deux |
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| 03:25.01 | daniel_jackson | and I get no server list on bzflag |
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| 03:25.30 | inchworm | it may stay that way for a bit, it's getting decently late in the states |
| 03:25.54 | daniel_jackson | its 8:30 PM PST |
| 03:26.26 | inchworm | west coaster |
| 03:26.39 | inchworm | ;) |
| 03:26.41 | daniel_jackson | yep california |
| 03:26.46 | blast007 | yeah, you won't get a list |
| 03:26.52 | blast007 | I can't even SSH to the box |
| 03:27.14 | cosmos | hrm beaverhausen hit us again |
| 03:27.19 | daniel_jackson | have you done a traceroute on it? |
| 03:27.41 | uso | was afraid of this, as the traceroute stops just before the server |
| 03:27.45 | orange | cosmos: yes, beaverhausen is back |
| 03:28.00 | cosmos | he threatened us but did nothing much more |
| 03:28.07 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 03:28.09 | a_meteorite | it just ddi |
| 03:28.10 | a_meteorite | om |
| 03:28.12 | a_meteorite | *omg |
| 03:28.17 | cosmos | no players on tuxsux right now thanks to the outage |
| 03:28.19 | a_meteorite | I think it heard me |
| 03:28.31 | daniel_jackson | me too I'm an attict! |
| 03:28.42 | a_meteorite | daniel_jackson: so what's this about admin? :\ |
| 03:28.58 | brad | lol, there's 25 servers on the list |
| 03:28.59 | a_meteorite | you don't get it by asking :) |
| 03:29.00 | daniel_jackson | from spartan? |
| 03:29.18 | inchworm | news: the server may be back up...don't all ping it at once and cause a DDOS |
| 03:29.25 | inchworm | or not |
| 03:29.25 | daniel_jackson | I meant cop |
| 03:29.29 | a_meteorite | eek |
| 03:29.38 | a_meteorite | it's gone again :( |
| 03:29.41 | cosmos | its not authing though, i get a minus sign next to my nick |
| 03:29.49 | uso | on _which_ list? |
| 03:29.58 | purple_cow | with the number of kids playing bzflag and posting on the forums, a ping won't even register on the traffic meters |
| 03:30.17 | a_meteorite | purple_cow: heh |
| 03:30.18 | brad | just kids playing bz, purple_cow? |
| 03:30.28 | purple_cow | mostly |
| 03:30.28 | cosmos | heh beaverhausen did threaten to hack us today |
| 03:30.32 | brad | :P |
| 03:30.37 | daniel_jackson | hey i'm 22 |
| 03:30.48 | cosmos | 22 is very young |
| 03:30.49 | a_meteorite | beaverhausen? that rings a bell somewhere |
| 03:31.02 | daniel_jackson | but yeah I don't want to grow up! |
| 03:31.07 | cosmos | anastasia beaverhausen aka hot dog sammy |
| 03:31.10 | a_meteorite | ahh |
| 03:31.11 | cosmos | annoying |
| 03:31.15 | a_meteorite | yeah him |
| 03:31.23 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 03:31.45 | a_meteorite | let's all DDoS the server ;) ;) |
| 03:31.50 | cosmos | got upset with our admins for banning now comes back and threatens up |
| 03:31.52 | cosmos | us |
| 03:31.56 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 03:32.12 | a_meteorite | I've never had problems with him, but I've heard about him making trouble elsewhere |
| 03:32.31 | orange | he's a major pain |
| 03:32.36 | cosmos | i never had problems either until he ran afoul of another admin |
| 03:32.42 | cosmos | then he turned into son of satan |
| 03:32.48 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 03:32.56 | orange | I won't be surprised someday to find he's actually some known member of the community working under an alias and alternate IP to wreak havoc |
| 03:32.59 | orange | it wouldn't be the first time |
| 03:33.39 | cosmos | dr jekyl and mr hyde |
| 03:33.58 | a_meteorite | ack, gotta eat a later dinner, bbl (or not at all..) |
| 03:34.05 | daniel_jackson | no probably just jeckyl |
| 03:34.10 | cosmos | yeah its time for aikido |
| 03:34.11 | cosmos | later |
| 03:34.17 | orange | "I was just doing it to point out the weak security on your machines and the oversensitivity of the admins" |
| 03:34.17 | daniel_jackson | seeyah |
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| 03:34.44 | cosmos | orange who was that |
| 03:34.46 | daniel_jackson | i hate the "hacker" rational |
| 03:34.55 | orange | cosmos: death barrel |
| 03:35.03 | orange | though it wasn't hacking, it was cheating |
| 03:35.04 | cosmos | oh |
| 03:35.42 | daniel_jackson | the immature everything |
| 03:35.42 | daniel_jackson | rational |
| 03:36.39 | daniel_jackson | so meteorite did you ever get to play with the kernel? |
| 03:37.35 | daniel_jackson | oh he's eating |
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| 03:40.42 | daniel_jackson | anybody gotten a server list yet on bazflag |
| 03:41.25 | daniel_jackson | rather bzflag |
| 03:41.26 | inchworm | ibot, 8ball |
| 03:41.27 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: My reply is no |
| 03:41.32 | inchworm | woot |
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| 03:42.04 | daniel_jackson | go "try again later" |
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| 03:42.25 | daniel_jackson | lol |
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| 03:45.38 | codergeek42 | Hmm. Logging in doesn't work and HTTP connection attempts to my.bzflag.org are timing out. Anybody know what's going on? :| |
| 03:46.18 | daniel_jackson | I kill the server on accident! lol |
| 03:46.50 | codergeek42 | le' oops >_> |
| 03:47.15 | daniel_jackson | I've just recently got ping responses |
| 03:47.47 | daniel_jackson | like 5-10 minutes ago, but in bzflag I still can't get a server list |
| 03:49.11 | daniel_jackson | actually now I'm getting no responses |
| 03:49.19 | codergeek42 | nor I :| |
| 03:49.34 | Thumper_ | the system hasn't rebooted so it's probably the ISP |
| 03:49.55 | daniel_jackson | someone did a traceroute and it stopped right before hitting the server |
| 03:50.22 | daniel_jackson | hopefully it isn't AOL! lol |
| 03:50.37 | brad | what's wrong with AOL?! :( |
| 03:51.27 | nick125_lappy | daniel_jackson: same thing here |
| 03:51.46 | daniel_jackson | thier the "ISP for dummies" in that everything is done for you |
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| 03:52.13 | nick125_lappy | did someoen forget to feed the hamsters running my.bzflag.org? |
| 03:52.23 | codergeek42 | a traceroute to my.bzflag.org stops at |
| 03:52.24 | codergeek42 | 15 gi0-1.ar01.tpa.sagonet.net (65.110.32.60) 96.333 ms 96.513 ms 94.492 ms |
| 03:52.26 | codergeek42 | :| |
| 03:52.32 | daniel_jackson | no I think I killed them |
| 03:53.09 | nick125_lappy | codergeek42: same.. |
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| 03:53.26 | daniel_jackson | it was really wierd because I was in the middle of changing my account settings |
| 03:53.34 | nick125_lappy | daniel_jackson: its nothing you did :P |
| 03:53.35 | daniel_jackson | and then freeze |
| 03:53.39 | spldart | buncha addicts in here jonesing for bz fix |
| 03:53.47 | nick125_lappy | its network issues |
| 03:53.49 | daniel_jackson | I just is weird |
| 03:53.57 | nick125_lappy | and I can't play because I can't identify |
| 03:54.40 | daniel_jackson | hell I'm 2 classes away from getting my bachelors in Networking I know its not my fault |
| 03:54.55 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 03:55.18 | nick125_lappy | so, who at sagonet forgot to feed the hamsters powering the server? :( |
| 03:55.21 | daniel_jackson | the server or the connection to the server is down |
| 03:55.28 | Thumper_ | connection |
| 03:55.29 | daniel_jackson | I did ! |
| 03:55.51 | daniel_jackson | and thumper just verified |
| 03:55.59 | Thumper_ | well it's a guess |
| 03:56.03 | Thumper_ | for the short time it was back |
| 03:56.09 | Thumper_ | the system still reported a long uptime |
| 03:56.14 | daniel_jackson | i'll hold you to it! |
| 03:56.15 | Thumper_ | and processes were still running |
| 03:56.22 | Thumper_ | that was 30 mins ago |
| 03:56.26 | daniel_jackson | ok |
| 03:56.26 | nick125_lappy | yeah, its network |
| 03:56.32 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.35 | nick125_lappy | 10 * gi0-1.ar01.tpa.sagonet.net (65.110.32.60) 99 ms * |
| 03:56.38 | nick125_lappy | 11 * * * |
| 03:57.32 | daniel_jackson | well it's sure a good thing that ICMP wasn't disabled on the server or the router |
| 03:58.19 | daniel_jackson | I hate having to use the force to diagnose network issues |
| 03:59.11 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 04:00.58 | daniel_jackson | man I love debian, see I didn't have traceroute installed, all I get was "apt-get install traceroute" and it installed it |
| 04:01.32 | Thumper_ | and it even comes with documentation...lack of documentation is a bug. |
| 04:02.00 | daniel_jackson | you have to install that separate, but you do get the man page |
| 04:02.35 | daniel_jackson | heres my trace route: |
| 04:02.39 | daniel_jackson | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.39 | daniel_jackson | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.39 | daniel_jackson | 10 ve49.core01.tpa.sagonet.net (66.118.132.149) 63.140 ms gi0-1.ar01.tpa.sagonet.net (65.110.32.60) 62.417 ms ve49.core01.tpa.sagonet.net (66.118.132.149) 63.735 ms |
| 04:02.39 | daniel_jackson | 11 * gi0-1.ar01.tpa.sagonet.net (65.110.32.60) 60.640 ms * |
| 04:02.40 | daniel_jackson | 12 * * * |
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| 04:03.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
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| 04:05.18 | daniel_jackson | too bad we can't ssh, I was going to say ping out from the server |
| 04:07.04 | daniel_jackson | Thumper, are their any other machines, on that network that you can ssh into to see whats going on |
| 04:07.31 | Thumper_ | not from here |
| 04:07.42 | daniel_jackson | that sucks |
| 04:08.15 | daniel_jackson | and the webserver is on a different network? |
| 04:08.34 | daniel_jackson | www.bzflag.org |
| 04:09.16 | spldart | IB someone tripped over a cable |
| 04:09.25 | nick125_lappy | daniel_jackson: yeah |
| 04:09.26 | tokimi | lol |
| 04:09.29 | nick125_lappy | bzflag.org is on sf |
| 04:09.39 | daniel_jackson | it was those darn hamsters fault! |
| 04:10.11 | daniel_jackson | nick thats what I was thinking |
| 04:10.51 | daniel_jackson | well I really did it now! |
| 04:11.09 | *** join/#bzflag delusional (n=A-Delusi@pool-151-201-245-185.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:11.10 | daniel_jackson | hey is that bzflag police outside my door? |
| 04:11.16 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 04:12.00 | pyr0 | mm hmm |
| 04:12.22 | daniel_jackson | I'm going to stay on here as long as possible |
| 04:14.07 | spldart | I swear... If I ever buy that trunk connection I want 'i wish' I'm goin to have dev's help me make a backup server for list or something :~/ |
| 04:14.20 | daniel_jackson | yeah it keeps getting hung @ gi0-1.ar01.tpa.sagonet.net (65.110.32.60) |
| 04:14.29 | daniel_jackson | don't swear! |
| 04:14.37 | daniel_jackson | mlol |
| 04:14.41 | spldart | swearity swearing swear swear |
| 04:14.47 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 04:14.47 | Thumper_ | you can still find some servers http://bzflag.bzflag2.norang.ca/ |
| 04:15.03 | Thumper_ | you just have to enter the host/port manually |
| 04:15.45 | spldart | yeah' |
| 04:17.44 | spldart | Ibot! Magically fix the server :) |
| 04:17.56 | daniel_jackson | I'm getting can't talk with list for norang |
| 04:19.07 | nick125_lappy | grr |
| 04:19.22 | daniel_jackson | your supposed to say "why isn't the server work? This shouldn't happen! why can't people leave things alone" |
| 04:19.36 | nick125_lappy | some TK is on a server, and, no one can admin because list server is down.. |
| 04:19.55 | nick125_lappy | :/ |
| 04:20.03 | Bz_Win | what server? :\ |
| 04:20.10 | daniel_jackson | what! I hope that your joking |
| 04:20.12 | nick125_lappy | bzfx.net IIRC |
| 04:20.22 | Bz_Win | I have the pass :) |
| 04:20.39 | daniel_jackson | ok I grab the laser flag, boom I hit you nick! |
| 04:20.46 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 04:21.02 | nick125_lappy | you sohuld be able to spot the TK.. |
| 04:21.34 | daniel_jackson | what are we play guess who? |
| 04:22.04 | daniel_jackson | does your "tk" have a mustache? |
| 04:23.55 | daniel_jackson | we need some elevator music |
| 04:25.40 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 04:26.29 | daniel_jackson | looks like the whole sagonetworks.net is down |
| 04:26.43 | nick125_lappy | daniel_jackson: of coruse |
| 04:26.45 | nick125_lappy | *course |
| 04:27.13 | daniel_jackson | ok mr smarty pants! :) |
| 04:28.05 | daniel_jackson | did you ever get done eating meteorite? |
| 04:28.58 | Bz_Win | his soup ate him |
| 04:29.15 | *** join/#bzflag Tropican8 (i=user@c-68-54-190-116.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:29.19 | daniel_jackson | oh ok is that what it is! |
| 04:30.47 | Bz_Win | hmm |
| 04:30.55 | Bz_Win | some people on bzfx are now logged in |
| 04:31.19 | Thumper_ | bzflag.bz pings again |
| 04:31.24 | daniel_jackson | is this through the norang list server? |
| 04:32.13 | Bz_Win | I just got logged in on bzfx |
| 04:32.46 | Thumper_ | night all |
| 04:32.56 | daniel_jackson | 11 bz.bzflag.bz (66.111.56.50) 63.470 ms 68.025 ms 78.505 ms |
| 04:33.52 | daniel_jackson | hooray its back! |
| 04:34.11 | daniel_jackson | i'm going feed my addiction |
| 04:34.17 | daniel_jackson | see yah |
| 04:34.23 | Bz_Win | meee tooo |
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| 04:34.50 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 04:37.00 | uso | 14 unknown.sagonet.net (65.110.32.75) ... looks like they replaced something ;) |
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| 08:28.16 | ToughShooter | ¡Hola Manu! |
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| 10:02.17 | Manu | ToughShooter: hallo :) |
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| 10:59.18 | cnopers | hi |
| 10:59.38 | cnopers | which ports do i have to open for playing bzflag? |
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| 11:03.12 | Mr_Molez | I have just noticed my cvs head (from a few days ago) (2.1) using about 95% cpu, with no players |
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| 11:54.36 | A_Heart_Attack | are there any admins on boxy war here? |
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| 12:21.29 | trepan | http://software77.net/cgi-bin/ip-country/geo-ip.pl -- add country flags to the server list? (taspring uses it with little flags, a nice touch) |
| 12:27.29 | ruskie | add country flags to players in game.. or atleast resolve it |
| 12:27.51 | ruskie | btw mindmax C api might be usefull for this... along with their geoip db :) |
| 12:34.24 | trepan | taspring does do it per player (== per server there), not as important for bz; some might even consider it undesirable |
| 13:03.58 | ruskie | well I've already asked about this a while ago... |
| 13:04.26 | ruskie | don't think I got a favorable response... |
| 13:05.21 | ruskie | the geoip db is free and the C api is Free http://www.maxmind.com/app/c |
| 13:05.53 | ruskie | it doesn't require external queries... just a lookup in a db which is updated onec per month... |
| 13:06.04 | ruskie | it's gpl licensed |
| 13:08.23 | Pimpi | trepan, gondolin is not a public server ;) |
| 13:09.00 | trepan | ? |
| 13:09.01 | Pimpi | oh, misunderstood something... |
| 13:09.13 | Pimpi | nvm |
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| 17:21.09 | uso | trepan: would at least give more information as the team menu icon ;) |
| 17:22.05 | uso | and if you would have a country string to filter for it would even give some practical benefit |
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| 17:28.37 | ryanakca | is there a map making program for linux (that support 2.0.6/2.0.8 stuff)... the blender one is being a pain... |
| 17:33.06 | brlcad | ~logs |
| 17:33.09 | ibot | logs is, like, http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 17:42.02 | brlcad | for anyone interested or noticed, there was about two hours of list server and m.b.o downtime last night from 10:30pm to 12:30am EDT |
| 17:43.58 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 17:44.27 | brlcad | the cause was an apparent upload of an image to m.b.o. that causes the PNG exploit code. this was detected by m.b.o's ISP network monitoring facilities, where the server's IP was then blocked until the issue was investigated |
| 17:45.22 | brlcad | still attempting to determine who did this (likely a random bzbb registration, but could be several things), but it shouldn't be a problem in the future |
| 17:45.51 | Mr_Molez | heh |
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| 17:53.48 | spldart | Interesting.... spldart googles png exploit code |
| 17:59.32 | uso | one more reason to separate the listserv from the bb |
| 18:00.07 | uso | they monitor the full network traffic? you have requested this for your server? |
| 18:00.12 | Mr_Molez | the list server needs atleast 2 servers. eur and us one.. the current server sucks. doesn't even keep information right |
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| 18:17.12 | ryanakca | ah so thats what happened :) |
| 18:21.55 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: the server itself, including the hardware, cpu, box, etc has zero to do with the list server's ability to "keep information right" |
| 18:22.24 | brlcad | adding a "european" list server to the mix would do absolutely nothing towards that end as well |
| 18:23.48 | brlcad | so basically, stop talking out of you arse regarding things you apparently don't know much about |
| 18:24.03 | brlcad | if you want to help fix the list server implementation, the code is all there in cvs |
| 18:26.35 | brlcad | uso: most major ISPs monitor full network traffic to varying degrees of utility, only difference is whether they do anything about it or not |
| 18:28.14 | brlcad | i don't have any problem with them blocking the server when some goofoff is attempting to be malicious |
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| 18:29.05 | brlcad | in this particular instance, the m.b.o. wasn't in the least bit compromised -- it's the users on places like bzbb that would potentially be transmitted the exploit (which is msn/windows specific, fwiw) |
| 18:30.57 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: u goda be kidding me hahahhahaha. Nah ill just bitch about it everyday if that's alright with you |
| 18:31.46 | Mr_Molez | infact, even if it isn't, so what get use to it :P |
| 18:31.49 | brlcad | outright disinformation isn't in the least bit cool |
| 18:33.29 | brlcad | your getting "server" and "list server implementation" quite mixed up |
| 18:33.51 | brlcad | it would be useful to have redundancy on the list servers, but that also would do nothing to help "keep information right" |
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| 18:34.05 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: is ur server hosted same place as tims was ? |
| 18:34.06 | brlcad | it would just provide a failsafe when there are problems with one or the other, the networks, etc |
| 18:34.13 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: not in the least |
| 18:34.30 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: and i said eu server so it would be faster for me, not because it would solve any problems |
| 18:34.34 | Mr_Molez | ;) |
| 18:34.50 | brlcad | it's slow for you now? |
| 18:35.02 | Mr_Molez | us to eu is always slow |
| 18:35.05 | brlcad | even across the pond it shouldn't be that slow, and it should be considerably faster than it was |
| 18:35.10 | blast007 | "the current server sucks. doesn't even keep information right" |
| 18:35.16 | Mr_Molez | hehehe |
| 18:35.18 | brlcad | define what you mean by slow |
| 18:35.34 | Mr_Molez | well i forums are quite slow |
| 18:35.42 | Mr_Molez | the server list is even slower |
| 18:35.43 | brlcad | define what you mean by slow |
| 18:35.51 | Mr_Molez | take a while to load up the page |
| 18:35.57 | Mr_Molez | or recieve the server list |
| 18:36.13 | shorty114 | but in the end it loads it, right? |
| 18:36.20 | brlcad | you're really not quantifying.. what is "a while" and "slow"? a second? 200ms on average? 20 seconds? |
| 18:36.22 | Mr_Molez | its alright now |
| 18:36.27 | Mr_Molez | but sometimes it goes really slow |
| 18:36.32 | shorty114 | but in the end it loads it, right? |
| 18:37.19 | brlcad | if it's "alright now", that's also an indication that there's not really anything wrong with the server itself, the network connection, or perhaps even the list server implementation |
| 18:37.35 | Mr_Molez | not at the moment :P |
| 18:37.49 | Mr_Molez | doesn't mean its perfect all the time |
| 18:37.55 | brlcad | sure it doesn't |
| 18:38.13 | brlcad | but when it does slow down, it's likely due to something commpletely unrelated then |
| 18:38.19 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 18:38.50 | brlcad | there has been performance testing and rotation of the list server logs for example |
| 18:39.36 | brlcad | the list server logs are massive, rotating them took several hours and probably kept the machine very busy while it was doing it .. so at the time, things might have been "slower" |
| 18:40.02 | brlcad | still, that's got nothing to do with the list server itself, they're just logs and a choice of when/how to rotate them |
| 18:40.56 | brlcad | if anything, it might indicate that the list server implementation logs too much stuff, or that we should rotate more often or at non-peak times for example .. but that's only one case of several possible I'm sure |
| 18:41.27 | Mr_Molez | what are the logs of ? why do you need them ? |
| 18:41.28 | brlcad | also, I have been looking into getting a european mirror fwiw |
| 18:41.48 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: logs of "everything" related to the bzflag network |
| 18:41.54 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 18:42.09 | brlcad | they're needed for everything from performance testing to debugging to tracking down incidents like the troubles you caused |
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| 18:42.41 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: and in my case, were they any help at all ? |
| 18:43.09 | brlcad | they weren't only a help, they read like a book as to who was doing what |
| 18:43.23 | brlcad | i just didn't bother to read them for a couple weeks |
| 18:43.36 | brlcad | I have better things to do with my time generally speaking |
| 18:43.49 | Mr_Molez | like arguing with me now :P |
| 18:43.53 | brlcad | exactly |
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| 18:46.55 | Mr_Molez | word |
| 18:47.03 | blast007 | excel |
| 18:47.16 | Mr_Molez | OO |
| 18:53.38 | shorty114 | what happened to the nose... |
| 18:53.40 | shorty114 | O.O |
| 18:54.41 | ryanakca | is there a map making program for linux (that support 2.0.6/2.0.8 stuff)... the blender one is being a pain... ??? |
| 18:54.54 | blast007 | the blender one is the most complete afaik |
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| 18:55.13 | Skeeve | Hi there! Anyone any idea what's going on on baderking? |
| 18:55.16 | ryanakca | blast007: I can't get it to run properly :(... |
| 18:55.57 | blast007 | I haven't yet either, but I'm assuming it's something I'm doing wrong, plus the fact that I have no idea how to use blender ;D |
| 18:56.46 | [NP]Tangent | I code my maps with gedit |
| 18:56.48 | [NP]Tangent | :> |
| 18:56.58 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:00.39 | ryanakca | [NP]Tangent: gulps |
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| 19:03.30 | ryanakca | [NP]Tangent: this is just scary: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking?action=highlight&value=map ... I think I'll just vnc into my windows box and use bzedit :) |
| 19:04.20 | [NP]Tangent | ryanakca, it's actually pretty easy |
| 19:04.26 | ryanakca | ??? |
| 19:04.38 | [NP]Tangent | for a basic map, you just need to understand box, pyramid, and base |
| 19:04.57 | [NP]Tangent | and maybe not even base |
| 19:05.22 | ryanakca | eh hunh... |
| 19:06.26 | Mr_Molez | ~96*6 |
| 19:06.28 | ibot | 576 |
| 19:06.34 | blast007 | s/basic map/1.7 style map/ |
| 19:06.56 | [NP]Tangent | yeh |
| 19:07.14 | [NP]Tangent | just look at hix.bzw |
| 19:07.21 | ryanakca | when you talk about pyramid... is that = to cone? (I know they aren't the same... but no "pyramid" on http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking#head-90bd7b949241349cf7be92ea54e98d6eb282106f) |
| 19:07.21 | [NP]Tangent | it's in the misc directory with the source package |
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| 19:07.37 | [NP]Tangent | no, there's actually a pyramid object |
| 19:07.41 | [NP]Tangent | pyramid |
| 19:07.44 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.51 | [NP]Tangent | er |
| 19:07.55 | [NP]Tangent | pyramid |
| 19:07.58 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.00 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.02 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.02 | [NP]Tangent | end |
| 19:10.22 | ryanakca | kk, and position? |
| 19:11.04 | [NP]Tangent | position x y z |
| 19:11.09 | [NP]Tangent | rotation deg |
| 19:11.22 | [NP]Tangent | size x y z |
| 19:12.36 | ryanakca | pixels or ??? |
| 19:12.51 | [NP]Tangent | units |
| 19:13.11 | ryanakca | 1 unit = ??? |
| 19:13.29 | blast007 | it's not directly tied to real world units |
| 19:13.38 | blast007 | but it's about 1m per bz unit |
| 19:13.41 | ryanakca | ok, a tank = x units. x = ? |
| 19:13.55 | shorty114 | x = a tank |
| 19:14.13 | ryanakca | ok, so 1 tank = 1 unit |
| 19:14.25 | ryanakca | :) |
| 19:15.06 | shorty114 | idk |
| 19:15.14 | blast007 | no |
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| 19:15.52 | GMMan | Anyone here with BZManager? |
| 19:17.20 | ryanakca | no... |
| 19:17.29 | ryanakca | 1 tank = how many units ? |
| 19:17.53 | blast007 | ryanakca: the size is specified in the BZDB |
| 19:18.03 | blast007 | I belive anyway.. |
| 19:18.26 | Mr_Molez | GMMan: i use to help test it |
| 19:18.45 | Mr_Molez | aint used it in ages though :p |
| 19:18.46 | blast007 | height = 2.05, length = 6, width = 2.8 |
| 19:19.28 | blast007 | however, I believe there is something about z units in bzflag being half units |
| 19:19.48 | blast007 | so do a map with a couple boxes of different sizes, just as a test |
| 19:20.46 | shorty114 | GMMan, try their official site: http://bzmanager.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:21.00 | shorty114 | or their forum: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=85 |
| 19:21.07 | GMMan | I read that. I'm ready to post a bug. |
| 19:21.27 | [NP]Tangent | blast007, the z isn't half units... x and y units are doubled in the size |
| 19:21.30 | [NP]Tangent | but not position |
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| 19:22.02 | blast007 | yeah, that's what it was ;) |
| 19:23.40 | shorty114 | all that right there? *that's* why i never got into maps for bz ;) |
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| 20:20.39 | ToughShooter | Hmm, what can cause some data only (std::cout) being visible after something new is in at standard out, but the same code placed somewhere else creates no delay? |
| 20:32.07 | orange | buffered stdout? |
| 20:35.47 | purple_cow | std::cout << something << std::flush |
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| 20:44.38 | ToughShooter | Hmm, ok, I will try |
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| 20:58.04 | ToughShooter | purple_cow: that works |
| 20:58.29 | ToughShooter | Do I have to put sd::flushs all over the code, even when I remove std::couts? |
| 20:58.43 | purple_cow | ? |
| 20:58.58 | ToughShooter | What does std::flush exactly? |
| 20:59.09 | brlcad | equiv to fflush() |
| 20:59.10 | ToughShooter | Flush standard out only? |
| 20:59.21 | purple_cow | when you output with std::cout, it buffers it before actually printing it to the screen |
| 20:59.28 | ToughShooter | ah |
| 20:59.30 | brlcad | flushes whatever stream you send it to |
| 20:59.31 | purple_cow | std::flush causes it to empty the buffer and print |
| 20:59.47 | ToughShooter | Ok, then I just can delete all the std::couts :) |
| 20:59.50 | purple_cow | which is generally only necessary if you're outputting stuff without a newline at the end |
| 20:59.59 | ToughShooter | I have put them everywhere because of debug issues ;) |
| 21:00.11 | brlcad | you could also set unbuffered mode on the stream, but that's ill advised generally speaking |
| 21:00.19 | ToughShooter | ah, that was the key, I had no newlines |
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| 21:13.10 | ToughShooter | Eeek, SF password expired :( |
| 21:13.36 | purple_cow | expired? |
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| 21:16.21 | ToughShooter | SF site says so |
| 21:16.41 | Mr_Molez | on tft its better for the response time.ms to be lower right ? like 14ms ? |
| 21:17.06 | purple_cow | basically |
| 21:17.24 | Mr_Molez | so if its anything below 14ms there should be no ghosting :P |
| 21:17.31 | ToughShooter | It also depends on what you are doing |
| 21:17.36 | Mr_Molez | just bzflag |
| 21:17.50 | ToughShooter | Ah, then you want a fast refresh rate |
| 21:18.07 | ToughShooter | For DVDs it looks to me as if not so important |
| 21:18.37 | Mr_Molez | so anything below 14ms response time is good ? |
| 21:19.35 | purple_cow | depends on what kind of refresh that is |
| 21:19.43 | purple_cow | 14ms for white->black is pretty decent |
| 21:19.47 | purple_cow | 14ms for grey->grey sucks |
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| 21:20.47 | Mr_Molez | refresh of 50-60 ? |
| 21:21.17 | ruskie | 75 |
| 21:21.42 | t2m | Hi, just checking in if any mates on (Steel Batt, TE, Hepcat). Wouldn't mind match in about 1 hr. (having dinnere, afk, see ya soon) |
| 21:23.39 | Mr_Molez | ok and umm any idea how bzflag would work with a projector ? |
| 21:24.13 | ToughShooter | ~spell interrupt |
| 21:24.54 | Skeeve | Hi! Is anyone using a Mac BZFlag? I'm asking myself how the /vote /help etc. commands work |
| 21:25.25 | pyr0 | ~spell 'eww' |
| 21:25.33 | pyr0 | :) |
| 21:28.00 | ToughShooter | Weee, there I go: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1527081&group_id=3248&atid=303248 :D |
| 21:29.32 | ToughShooter | I also fixed one of JeffM2501's spelling mistakes :) |
| 21:32.07 | purple_cow | jeff makes spelling mistakes? |
| 21:32.09 | purple_cow | you're kidding me |
| 21:32.29 | ToughShooter | "corssingWall" |
| 21:35.13 | ToughShooter | The most funny thing was the merchantability one, though I do not know who was this ;) |
| 21:38.18 | brlcad | Skeeve: lots of listeners/players use macs .. the commands are not platform specific |
| 21:38.46 | brlcad | easy; /vote yes|no /help whatever_the_op_defined |
| 21:39.57 | ToughShooter | /help actually gives an overview of all available help messages |
| 21:40.26 | brlcad | s/actually/usually/ .. i believe even that can be overridden |
| 21:41.24 | ToughShooter | It may can but I see no obvious reason one would want that |
| 21:41.38 | brlcad | maybe to pretty it up a little |
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| 21:43.24 | ToughShooter | All is a cost / benefit thing and I think those who do /help are often not the newbies |
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| 21:46.21 | GMMan | Anyone know about the big lag on Boxy War? |
| 21:53.32 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: update from cad -- detect a recursive configure, it's not really properly supported yet.. but if the problem is glibtool, we should be able to continue through a restart with LIBTOOLIZE set |
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| 22:12.31 | Skeeve | I just tried. /help |
| 22:12.49 | Skeeve | After h my flags were hidden after "p" the pause countdown started |
| 22:13.05 | pyr0 | nno no, hit n for typing a message, then type /help |
| 22:13.24 | Skeeve | AHHH! |
| 22:13.28 | Skeeve | Thanks! |
| 22:14.25 | Skeeve | Now it works... |
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| 22:21.12 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03mmarshall_ 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): Added shotID to bz_PlayerDieEventData. (and a little ws) |
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| 22:28.50 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03mmarshall_ 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Added the ability for plugins to change the killer in a PlayerDieEvent. |
| 22:29.33 | mmarshall | How log does it normally take for sf anon cvs to sync? |
| 22:29.45 | mmarshall | s/log/long |
| 22:29.46 | brlcad | up to 2 hours now? |
| 22:29.53 | mmarshall | :-/ |
| 22:30.08 | mmarshall | I guess I'll do a dev checkout on the server :P |
| 22:30.08 | brlcad | used to take a heck of a lot longer than that, be happy ;) |
| 22:30.28 | mmarshall | Allright, I'll be happy :D :D :D |
| 22:30.40 | brlcad | much better |
| 22:31.19 | brlcad | mmarshall: are those changes on the branch already done to head? |
| 22:31.28 | mmarshall | No not yet. |
| 22:31.50 | mmarshall | I'll get them in there too, however. |
| 22:32.59 | trepan | someone say svn? ;) |
| 22:33.14 | mmarshall | SVN!! SVN!!! SVN!!! |
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| 22:34.40 | trepan | mmarshall: subtle, you are not =) |
| 22:35.12 | mmarshall | There are times... |
| 22:35.50 | blast007 | I really haven't noticed a delay in the anon CVS |
| 22:35.58 | blast007 | that last commit already shows up |
| 22:36.20 | blast007 | in the webcvs at least |
| 22:47.39 | spldart | Yay! Gigantic storms..... Didn't knock me off the internet |
| 22:49.33 | spldart | mmarshal... I'm not sure I understand the question but the last time I checked out a cvs about 15 minutes after a dev did an upload of some code I got a bad checkout.... took between one and two hours to get a good checkout of the source |
| 22:50.10 | spldart | That was last weekend iirc and it was jeff that had done some commits iirc |
| 22:50.50 | spldart | could have been a tad more recent :confused: |
| 22:51.11 | blast007 | hmm, so maybe the webcvs isn't based off anon anymore? |
| 22:51.17 | mmarshall | spldart: I wanted to use the last to commits I made on a server that had an anon cvs checkout, but after waiting a while the anon cvs still didn't show any updates. |
| 22:51.48 | mmarshall | blast007: That would explain the downtime they had for webcvs a while ago. |
| 22:52.16 | spldart | Again... I'm not up to speed on you dev's adding code to the cvs head and all the terms involved... But that was my experience on a 'i think' similiar situation |
| 22:52.45 | spldart | but yeah... anon checkout of head in my case |
| 22:53.38 | mmarshall | spldart: It's probably similar. SF has separate servers for anon cvs, and sometimes it takes a while before changes on the dev cvs server get moved over the the anon cvs server. |
| 22:53.52 | spldart | ah |
| 22:59.54 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03mmarshall_ * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): Ported shotID in PlayerDieEventData to HEAD. |
| 23:01.06 | wizart | hmpf. |
| 23:01.06 | spldart | Looks like I'll go after a snapshot of head tomorrow morning :) |
| 23:01.19 | wizart | buzg report: When the system is loaded bzflag performs poorly |
| 23:02.05 | mmarshall | wizart: Do you mean the other way around? |
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| 23:04.04 | wizart | no. actually I'm just very annoyed that you have to set thread priorities manually under linux. |
| 23:04.39 | wizart | That was ok when a system was using 5-6 threads but it's unrealistic on modern systems with hundreds of them |
| 23:04.46 | spldart | Actually that answers a question I have pondered lately... Can I preset thread/app priorities in linux |
| 23:05.02 | wizart | I'm having a harder time each year to figure out what I'Ve to renice to get bzflag running smoothly |
| 23:05.08 | spldart | instead of having to use nice or whateva |
| 23:05.25 | CBG | ~SpazzyMcGee++ |
| 23:05.45 | wizart | nice to know that I'm not the only one having trouble with this :) |
| 23:05.53 | spldart | :-) |
| 23:05.58 | mmarshall | wizart: Ahh, now I get it... 'system is loaded' == 'system is under load'. |
| 23:06.07 | wizart | eh yepo |
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| 23:07.00 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03mmarshall_ * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Ported changing the killer during PlayerDieEvent to HEAD. |
| 23:07.19 | wizart | on days when I'm acutally using the system it's very hard to switch to bzflag for example while I'm copying something. |
| 23:07.47 | wizart | actually it doesn'T really work. |
| 23:07.59 | wizart | Either copy stuff or play bzflag. |
| 23:08.41 | wizart | ah well. sry about the rant |
| 23:09.00 | mmarshall | I suppose the power saving setting under bzflag doesn't help anything. |
| 23:09.02 | spldart | I have 3 instances fighting samba and apache... and occasionally a build, fighting at times... making starting anything else a mirracle |
| 23:10.01 | spldart | eek... either I'm to intoxicated or my... I'm intoxicated cuz that doesn't make sense |
| 23:11.23 | pyr0 | bz can save me power? how :) |
| 23:11.39 | ruskie | pyr0, it limits framerate |
| 23:11.39 | pyr0 | i wouldnt worry much about having that feature on a desktop, but maybe a laptop |
| 23:12.00 | mmarshall | Somewhere in the options. |
| 23:12.27 | ruskie | and yeah ussualy high hdd load and running interactive apps doesn't go well |
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| 23:36.06 | spldart | It's funny running into family on a bz server :-D |
| 23:36.46 | wizart | lol. tell that the barons |
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