| 00:14.03 | A_Meteorite | can anyone help me with web-league here? |
| 00:14.49 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: prolly |
| 00:15.00 | A_Meteorite | how do I do a custom port for mysql? |
| 00:15.09 | A_Meteorite | I can't use the default one since another is running |
| 00:15.14 | A_Meteorite | it doesn't work in bzlsql.php |
| 00:15.26 | A_Meteorite | wait... I think I found out how maybe |
| 00:15.27 | A_Meteorite | hold on :) |
| 00:15.51 | Mr_Molez | SQLhost=localhost |
| 00:15.55 | Mr_Molez | SQLhost=localhost:port maybe |
| 00:15.56 | Mr_Molez | duno |
| 00:16.39 | A_Meteorite | no, didn't like that |
| 00:19.40 | blast007 | why do you need another MySQL server running? |
| 00:19.56 | A_Meteorite | because I don't want to use an old mysql 3 server |
| 00:20.04 | blast007 | oh |
| 00:20.05 | A_Meteorite | which I can't upgrade |
| 00:21.06 | Gnurdux | its only runme.sh isnt working |
| 00:21.15 | Gnurdux | the other stuff works ok |
| 00:21.27 | Gnurdux | its just runme doesnt work with the :, the leaguesite is OK with it |
| 00:21.52 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, what was the maybe? |
| 00:22.05 | A_Meteorite | editing the scripts runme.sh uses |
| 00:22.14 | Gnurdux | hrehhe |
| 00:22.15 | A_Meteorite | and I got league to display but it was utterly broken |
| 00:22.22 | A_Meteorite | rows were missing... |
| 00:22.30 | A_Meteorite | I've deleted the database and trying again :( |
| 00:22.31 | A_Meteorite | * :) |
| 00:24.26 | A_Meteorite | http://bzfx.net/league/ |
| 00:24.27 | A_Meteorite | hmmm |
| 00:27.09 | blast007 | CSS gets messed if you click on a link |
| 00:27.13 | A_Meteorite | yeah... |
| 00:27.18 | A_Meteorite | quite weird |
| 00:27.22 | A_Meteorite | I can't login as admin either |
| 00:27.37 | blast007 | nor wait, it's just messed alltogether now |
| 00:27.50 | A_Meteorite | Wrong callsign or password |
| 00:27.50 | A_Meteorite | Welcome back, |
| 00:27.55 | A_Meteorite | hehe... |
| 00:28.07 | A_Meteorite | it created the tables too... I think... |
| 00:30.39 | A_Meteorite | wow... this is getting complicated.. |
| 00:33.49 | A_Meteorite | yes.. it's seriously messed up :( |
| 00:35.15 | A_Meteorite | I'm wondering if it could be related to php5 or mysql 3 |
| 00:35.19 | A_Meteorite | *mysql 5.1 beta |
| 00:36.08 | A_Meteorite | Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.1.9-beta, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) using readline 5.0 |
| 00:36.12 | A_Meteorite | PHP 5.1.4 (cli) (built: May 6 2006 21:48:24) |
| 00:40.44 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, its not... its the doing on the port thingy |
| 00:43.16 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, doesnt work at all now, table doesnt exis |
| 00:43.17 | Gnurdux | t |
| 00:43.23 | blast007 | Gnurdux: he's working on it |
| 00:43.24 | A_Meteorite | yeah |
| 00:43.28 | blast007 | chill :) |
| 00:43.34 | Gnurdux | lol OK |
| 00:44.49 | A_Meteorite | no one go there please |
| 00:44.49 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 00:47.52 | spldart | Can someone help me make a simple arc? |
| 00:49.38 | Gnurdux | whoa |
| 00:49.46 | Gnurdux | http://bzfx.net/league/ |
| 00:49.52 | Gnurdux | templates work until you click a link |
| 00:50.08 | blast007 | yeah.. |
| 00:50.47 | Gnurdux | blast007, also do you knoiw the blankscreen bugfix? |
| 00:50.59 | blast007 | nope |
| 00:51.02 | blast007 | I don't use webleague |
| 00:52.36 | spldart | NM... I figured out my stupid mistake :( |
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| 00:59.20 | Gnurdux | A-Delusion, you fixed it? |
| 00:59.22 | Gnurdux | * A_Meteorite |
| 00:59.31 | Gnurdux | YES you DID |
| 00:59.32 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 00:59.35 | A_Meteorite | there are still problems |
| 00:59.41 | Gnurdux | you fixed templates |
| 00:59.43 | A_Meteorite | make an account and go to profile |
| 00:59.46 | Gnurdux | what else is wrong A-Delusion |
| 00:59.57 | A_Meteorite | watch it choke there :) |
| 01:00.07 | A_Meteorite | and it thinks everyone is from 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:00.24 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, well, i think you know why that is.... |
| 01:00.34 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: no I don't |
| 01:01.22 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, didnt you do the proxy thing, and make it redirect to localhost:8080... so wont all the connections be coming out of your apache server? |
| 01:01.41 | A_Meteorite | oh yeah... |
| 01:01.54 | A_Meteorite | >:( |
| 01:02.21 | Gnurdux | cant you just kill the built in apache?> |
| 01:02.41 | Gnurdux | and run this one on port 80 |
| 01:02.42 | A_Meteorite | I would upgrade it... but being FC3 it's liable to break |
| 01:02.50 | A_Meteorite | no, other stuff is hosted |
| 01:03.52 | Gnurdux | theres prolly no fix for the IP thing |
| 01:04.00 | Gnurdux | but ask in #apache |
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| 01:11.23 | spldart | bzzt |
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| 01:27.16 | Gnurdux | menotume, you there? |
| 01:28.14 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: he's gone |
| 01:28.20 | Gnurdux | :( |
| 01:29.29 | Gnurdux | anyone know if blank screen bug is fixed in CVS webleague? |
| 01:48.58 | spldart | can a tank climb any difference at all? |
| 01:49.36 | spldart | say .1 diff between one level and the other |
| 01:51.48 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfsClientMessages.cxx bzfsClientMessages.h): rename "handleFlagCaputre" method to "handleFlagCapture" |
| 01:52.38 | DTRemenak | spldart: see _maxBumpHeight |
| 01:52.51 | DTRemenak | and note that it only works on parallel, flat surfaces |
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| 01:58.32 | spldart | that DTR..... I think I have a good map in the works :-D |
| 01:58.57 | DTRemenak | also be aware that it's a wee bit buggy |
| 01:59.04 | DTRemenak | test everything ;) |
| 01:59.58 | spldart | can a base lie dead flush against an arc? pardon if it's a dumb question |
| 02:00.08 | spldart | the flat of an arc |
| 02:04.58 | spldart | more specifically I made an arc 'tiddily wink style' so I can have a dead smooth floor in an imported object. I want to put a base in the middle of this tiddily wink arc. The previous question is cuz I wasn't sure I could lay a base flat in the middle of one and not have a transition if the tank drives over it. |
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| 02:19.15 | Z6 | hello |
| 02:24.56 | blast007 | hi |
| 02:26.26 | Mr_Molez | Z6: heya ! :P |
| 02:27.33 | Z6 | hello:D |
| 02:31.27 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: ws |
| 02:37.10 | DTRemenak | spldart: bases can do anything boxes can |
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| 02:41.28 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, can you pleeease check your IRC logs for the webleague fix? |
| 02:41.42 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: ill try |
| 02:51.35 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, also i need the cookie code |
| 02:51.49 | Gnurdux | can you send me index.php section/login.php |
| 02:51.52 | A_Meteorite | if you do that I can promise good things |
| 02:51.53 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 02:52.11 | Gnurdux | we need that and blank screen fix for the Plosileague |
| 02:52.33 | Gnurdux | dont worry were not doing anything like mapchange |
| 02:53.02 | A_Meteorite | I do have it though... I think you gave it to me... |
| 02:53.13 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, you might HAVE mapchange |
| 02:53.17 | Gnurdux | but you dont know how to use it |
| 02:53.23 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 02:53.23 | A_Meteorite | I know :) |
| 02:53.37 | A_Meteorite | actually I got confChange |
| 02:53.42 | Gnurdux | there similar |
| 02:54.00 | Gnurdux | mapchange just has the command renamed, and has /maprandom aswell |
| 02:54.08 | A_Meteorite | I just kept it for archive purposes, I don't even know how to use it |
| 02:54.11 | Gnurdux | heh |
| 02:54.28 | Gnurdux | we dont need another mapchange based league |
| 02:54.32 | Gnurdux | OL is good enough |
| 02:54.40 | A_Meteorite | I'm more of a pack rat on my computer than in real life |
| 02:55.18 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: i cant find it, can't you just steal OL's files ? |
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| 02:55.27 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, no i dont know the new pass |
| 02:55.33 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 02:55.48 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 02:55.56 | Mr_Molez | i think index contains the blackpage fix, what file contains the cookie stuff ? |
| 02:56.41 | blast007 | can't you guys just run a diff? |
| 02:57.13 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, prolly |
| 02:57.25 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, index.php and section/login.php |
| 02:57.29 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 02:57.31 | Mr_Molez | 1 sec |
| 02:57.34 | Gnurdux | sweet |
| 02:58.10 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, can i have some sort of access to edit the files? |
| 02:58.18 | Gnurdux | to make stuff happen? |
| 02:58.31 | A_Meteorite | umm yeah... once I get a subdomain |
| 02:58.51 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, setup the vhost for the subdomain before you get it! |
| 02:59.07 | A_Meteorite | OK! :P |
| 02:59.32 | Gnurdux | have you setitup? |
| 02:59.47 | A_Meteorite | no, still figuring how I would get around doing it |
| 02:59.58 | A_Meteorite | I guess I could just share my shell account.. |
| 02:59.59 | Gnurdux | oh ok' |
| 03:00.04 | A_Meteorite | as long as you don't do anything nasty |
| 03:00.09 | Gnurdux | i wont |
| 03:00.10 | A_Meteorite | since it'll be for bzfx too |
| 03:00.23 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, i meant the subdomain btw |
| 03:00.32 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, you could create a usergroup |
| 03:00.36 | Gnurdux | called league |
| 03:00.40 | Gnurdux | then adduser me |
| 03:00.43 | A_Meteorite | yeah, but it doesn't seem Plesk lets me do shell accounts for subdomains |
| 03:00.44 | Gnurdux | and put me in the group |
| 03:00.52 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: he wont do anything nasty, he has been using my account for a while, only this he does is tells EVERYONE the passwords to your accounts |
| 03:00.53 | Gnurdux | set the files to 664 |
| 03:01.06 | blast007 | Mr_Molez: lol |
| 03:01.14 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, only if their 123456 |
| 03:01.24 | Mr_Molez | *they're |
| 03:01.25 | A_Meteorite | Mr_Molez: well, that's dandy since I use different ones for everything |
| 03:01.29 | blast007 | Gnurdux: still... |
| 03:01.30 | DTRemenak | which, conveniently, they are... |
| 03:01.42 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, his was a couple weeks ago |
| 03:02.02 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: and you just had to make him change it ;) |
| 03:02.18 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, i htink it wasnt a very secure password |
| 03:02.21 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: it was only set to 123456 while u used it |
| 03:02.24 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 03:02.30 | Gnurdux | yea,, SURRRE |
| 03:02.33 | DTRemenak | subtlety is totally lost on these people |
| 03:02.39 | Gnurdux | thats why it was your useraccount password |
| 03:02.49 | Gnurdux | and your everything else password\ |
| 03:03.34 | Mr_Molez | like i said, i changed it for you to use. Because i dont what you to tell everyone my real passwd |
| 03:03.46 | DTRemenak | what, 12345? ;) |
| 03:03.49 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 03:03.59 | inchworm | shhh...don't say it so loudly |
| 03:04.32 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, send me the files... |
| 03:06.47 | I_Died_Once | Pirates of the Carribean was a pretty kickin' movie, I'll give it a solid three stars |
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| 03:07.08 | I_Died_Once | It would have been better if they wouldn't allow in people with screaming &*%$% kids. |
| 03:08.09 | lan56 | generally the kids don't scream until they are actually inside the theatre, therefore I am sure the staff tried to avoid such a situation |
| 03:08.58 | I_Died_Once | yeah, in an effort to avoid a race riot, I'm sure |
| 03:09.27 | I_Died_Once | A couple of weeks ago, I went to a midnight showing of "See No Evil" - horrible, rated R, slasher, gore fest of a movie |
| 03:09.29 | spldart | Opinions... http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/spldartsworld.png It's not finished yet but I think it has promise. |
| 03:09.44 | I_Died_Once | woman brought in five head of young'uns |
| 03:10.09 | I_Died_Once | this three or four year old girl was crying she was so scared |
| 03:10.34 | lan56 | in addition to how her candy spilled on the floor :) |
| 03:10.41 | inchworm | spldart: not too bad from here |
| 03:10.53 | I_Died_Once | Manager said there was nothing he could do save for giving me vouchers to see another movie |
| 03:11.07 | spldart | kew... it wont be so sparse when I finish but it's close |
| 03:11.38 | I_Died_Once | oooohhhhh THATS a pretty screenshot |
| 03:11.46 | I_Died_Once | Where, of where, can I log onto that? |
| 03:11.57 | spldart | It actually takes alot of time to think about each flag and giving them strong and weak points |
| 03:12.29 | inchworm | spldart: i assume that there will be wings? |
| 03:12.29 | spldart | It's not online yet |
| 03:12.30 | spldart | wings will be there but limited |
| 03:12.30 | inchworm | duh |
| 03:12.33 | spldart | teleporters will be primary form of transportation |
| 03:12.37 | lan56 | it hasn't made its world debut yet |
| 03:12.47 | spldart | the tiny boxes are pill boxes |
| 03:13.05 | inchworm | rico? |
| 03:13.21 | spldart | yes... but that's not for sure yet |
| 03:14.04 | spldart | I hope to release it sunday or monday night |
| 03:14.25 | inchworm | should be a good release |
| 03:14.33 | spldart | excessive beer has made me decide to call it quits for now.. bout 85% done |
| 03:17.20 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/spldartsworld2.png another view... suns setting so light poor and I don't feel like resetting it heheheh |
| 03:18.18 | spldart | Wife says I should name it 'Shak'n, not stirred' |
| 03:18.33 | inchworm | heh..sorta fits with the trays |
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| 03:32.56 | Z6 | anybody know how to set up a temporary server> |
| 03:33.11 | I_Died_Once | ...yeah |
| 03:34.01 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, that didnt contain blankscreen bugfix |
| 03:35.26 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, can you fidn the blankscreen bugfix |
| 03:44.37 | Gnurdux | ANYONE here who knows the blankscreen bugfix? |
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| 03:45.18 | Gnurdux | wait blankscreen is actually fixed in the CVS lol |
| 03:45.38 | DTRemenak | so you mean you didn't actually have to ask the last seven times? |
| 03:45.49 | Gnurdux | yea |
| 03:45.53 | Gnurdux | exactly lol |
| 03:50.13 | DTRemenak | JeffM2502: sendRabbitUpdate and sendTeamUpdate are your work, right? |
| 03:54.57 | JeffM2502 | probably |
| 03:55.19 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:56.23 | DTRemenak | they're wrong, fyi...they pack data over the top of previous data. just wondering if that was going to break anything or whatnot. |
| 03:59.28 | JeffM2502 | it "should" be ok |
| 03:59.41 | DTRemenak | I suppose I was wondering more if I should fix it, or if it's just dead code, or if that bit of information was all that was keeping it from working, or whatever. |
| 03:59.53 | JeffM2502 | ot' |
| 03:59.56 | JeffM2502 | it's new code |
| 03:59.58 | JeffM2502 | you can fix if you wish |
| 04:01.39 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: better fixed than broken, I suppose |
| 04:20.48 | A_Meteorite | Mr_Molez: ping |
| 04:21.41 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: sup |
| 04:46.30 | Z6 | anybody here able to answer a couple questions on server setup? |
| 04:47.10 | Mr_Molez | Z6: u can ask and see :P |
| 04:48.21 | Z6 | Mr_Molez: its kind of more alot of questions:D |
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| 04:51.38 | A_Meteorite | Z6: I would help, but I gotta go :) |
| 04:51.46 | Z6 | hehe, ok |
| 04:52.03 | Matt123 | what is the prob? |
| 04:52.18 | Z6 | im attempting to set up a server:D |
| 04:52.43 | Matt123 | ok, did you build a .conf, got a map picked out |
| 04:54.01 | Z6 | yes |
| 04:54.22 | Matt123 | so what part do you need help with? |
| 04:54.39 | Z6 | umm starting up the server |
| 04:54.47 | Z6 | i read the instructions but im kind of confused.. |
| 04:54.50 | Matt123 | ok what is the OS? |
| 04:55.03 | Z6 | the OS =D? |
| 04:55.21 | Matt123 | Operating System. Windows mac linux |
| 04:55.32 | Z6 | winXP |
| 04:56.00 | Matt123 | do you know how to open up a command prompt? |
| 04:56.12 | Z6 | that, I do know:D |
| 04:56.27 | Matt123 | cd into the bzflag directory |
| 04:57.34 | Matt123 | done? |
| 04:59.08 | Matt123 | ok after that type this, bzfs -conf "C:\Path\To\conf.conf |
| 04:59.20 | Matt123 | this is the way that i start my servers |
| 04:59.56 | Matt123 | does it give you an error or did it start? |
| 05:00.26 | Z6 | sec:D |
| 05:00.33 | Mr_Molez | uhhh just nearly blew my computer up lol |
| 05:00.46 | Matt123 | what did you dp |
| 05:01.08 | DTRemenak | Mr_Molez: try dynamite next time |
| 05:01.19 | Mr_Molez | spilt a pint of orange juice down the back of my desk onto the power sockets. Lets just say i saw sparks :P |
| 05:01.28 | Z6 | Matt123: type that exactly? |
| 05:01.32 | DTRemenak | mmm, fried oranges |
| 05:01.56 | Mr_Molez | prolly shouldn't turn it back on so soon, but oh well |
| 05:02.15 | Matt123 | replace "C:\path\to\conf.conf" with the location of your conf file |
| 05:02.25 | Matt123 | Z6, |
| 05:02.32 | Z6 | ok:D |
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| 05:02.52 | sicshooter | Hello all |
| 05:03.03 | Z6 | heya |
| 05:04.49 | sicshooter | I was banned from boxy wars server today for using foul language. I'm hoping to appeal the ban....can anyone tell me how I may contact a moderator for that server? |
| 05:05.23 | Matt123 | i know the moderator but you should have followed the rules |
| 05:06.08 | sicshooter | I've been playing for about 3 1/2 years and I have never gotten so much as a warning from any moderator on any server...I am more than willing to obey the rules of the server, I was simply unaware that the word I used was considered swearing |
| 05:06.25 | Mr_Molez | sicshooter: i know some 1 who has also been banned ther for no reason, their admins are not vvery good. Prolly best not to play there |
| 05:06.35 | Z6 | Matt123: do i just press enter now? |
| 05:06.49 | sicshooter | Unfortunately it's the only server I'm any good at lol |
| 05:06.52 | Matt123 | yes, then tell me if it got an wrror |
| 05:06.59 | Mr_Molez | sicshooter: hehe |
| 05:07.28 | Z6 | Matt123: Nope, no error a bunch of writing |
| 05:07.50 | Matt123 | ok see if your server shows up in the server list |
| 05:08.02 | Matt123 | what is it advertised as Z6 |
| 05:09.19 | Z6 | well |
| 05:09.26 | Z6 | i only advertised it as test |
| 05:10.01 | Z6 | as far as i can see it didn't show up, but there is a server that looks very similar to my service provider thingy, i clicked on it and it disappeared |
| 05:10.02 | DTRemenak | sicshooter: appeals should go to A_Meteorite, the server owner. You can reach him via private message at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 05:10.06 | Matt123 | sicshooter, the moderator a met us coming |
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| 05:10.15 | DTRemenak | or, talk to him here |
| 05:10.32 | A_Meteorite | I guess that refers to me? |
| 05:10.37 | A_Meteorite | ~seen sicshooter |
| 05:10.54 | ibot | sicshooter is currently on #bzflag (8m 17s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 4m 6s, last said: 'Unfortunately it's the only server I'm any good at lol'. |
| 05:10.54 | DTRemenak | yup yup |
| 05:10.56 | Z6 | welcome back =D |
| 05:11.00 | A_Meteorite | just heard about it at boxy war, but I don't know any details |
| 05:11.06 | A_Meteorite | yeah, got to go in t-minus 5mins |
| 05:11.13 | A_Meteorite | supposed to be loading car up for swap meet |
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| 05:11.36 | sicshooter | A_Meteorite: I used a word that I was unaware was considered swearing...I truely did not intend any offense |
| 05:11.41 | A_Meteorite | ok, so what's the problem? I don't mind public, but I don't want to annoy the other participants |
| 05:11.48 | Think_differentl | what was the word? |
| 05:11.53 | sicshooter | p*ss |
| 05:11.57 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 05:11.59 | Think_differentl | and who banned? |
| 05:12.09 | sicshooter | rio_dj_narrow |
| 05:12.12 | A_Meteorite | were you warned or kicked first? |
| 05:12.16 | Think_differentl | and did he give you warning |
| 05:12.18 | A_Meteorite | because I don't allow that |
| 05:12.21 | Mr_Molez | Z6: do you have -public and -publicaddr in ur config ? |
| 05:12.27 | sicshooter | this is exactly what was said: |
| 05:12.47 | Matt123 | Z6, copy all the feedback on the command prompt into a bastebin @ bzflag.pastebin.ca then send me a link to it |
| 05:12.58 | sicshooter | I said p*ss...someone just opened the door and moved my chair away from my monitor while I was running with bf |
| 05:13.41 | Think_differentl | and did he give you a warning? |
| 05:13.58 | sicshooter | rio_dj_narrow said, "language" (this happened after rio made a joke about omg! using w.t.f. as an acronym), so jokingly I said, "I mean blue flag"....and he banned me |
| 05:14.23 | sicshooter | I seriously thought he was joking...I was not trying to be defiant |
| 05:14.53 | A_Meteorite | well, I'll unban you for the benifit of the doubt |
| 05:15.04 | A_Meteorite | since you took the time to contest it (I still don't know what's going on exactly) |
| 05:15.18 | sicshooter | Thank you meteorite...I will try not to cause any troubles in the future :) |
| 05:15.22 | Think_differentl | :D |
| 05:15.26 | A_Meteorite | unbanning... hold on a min |
| 05:15.27 | Z6 | kk newb question: why are some people in orange =D |
| 05:15.48 | Matt123 | on irc Z6 ? |
| 05:15.51 | Z6 | like theyre names |
| 05:15.51 | Think_differentl | their the mods i think. green is mod |
| 05:15.52 | Z6 | yes |
| 05:15.55 | Think_differentl | i dunno bout orange |
| 05:16.05 | DTRemenak | remember, A_Meteorite: server logs ftw :) on my servers I could have read the logs in seconds. |
| 05:16.07 | Matt123 | it is voice Think_differentl |
| 05:16.27 | Z6 | what? lol |
| 05:16.28 | sicshooter | boxy wars is my favorite map....I would hate to be banned forever for a misunderstanding |
| 05:16.37 | A_Meteorite | DTRemenak: I'm setting up a logging system for bzfx, right now my logs consists of a flat file with some grep |
| 05:16.40 | Think_differentl | i agree sicshooter |
| 05:16.48 | DTRemenak | flat file is fine. soft link them into your web directory and set up a .htaccess |
| 05:17.01 | DTRemenak | cycle them regularly so they don't get too huge |
| 05:17.02 | Think_differentl | i manually do logs |
| 05:17.03 | Think_differentl | :/ |
| 05:17.04 | Matt123 | Z6, did you pastebin the stuff |
| 05:17.13 | Think_differentl | then donwload from sftp |
| 05:17.14 | Think_differentl | read |
| 05:17.24 | Z6 | Matt123: just about |
| 05:17.28 | Matt123 | ok |
| 05:17.39 | Z6 | warning, there isnt much stuff i just want it to test maps out |
| 05:17.43 | DTRemenak | at least, that's what I did, and it worked great |
| 05:17.55 | Think_differentl | do you have a search feature? |
| 05:18.13 | sicshooter | while I'm here, can anyon tell me how to message a specific player in game? |
| 05:18.17 | Z6 | Matt123: hold on you want it from the black screen right? |
| 05:18.17 | DTRemenak | just load it in firefox and use slash-searching |
| 05:18.19 | Think_differentl | yes |
| 05:18.20 | sicshooter | I've never figured that out |
| 05:18.27 | Think_differentl | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.33 | Matt123 | yes Z6, just to make sure |
| 05:18.34 | sicshooter | thank you :) |
| 05:18.35 | Think_differentl | or if you're in observer |
| 05:18.37 | Z6 | press the buttons on the right hand side of the n" |
| 05:18.38 | Think_differentl | use arrow keys |
| 05:18.38 | DTRemenak | and I had a shell script set up to grep across multiple days if I needed to |
| 05:19.08 | A_Meteorite | DTRemenak: :P |
| 05:19.15 | Z6 | Matt123: umm im not exactly sure how to copy and paste it from there lol |
| 05:19.26 | Matt123 | right click on it? |
| 05:19.27 | A_Meteorite | when I get some time tomorrow and it's general, can I have your logging script(s)? |
| 05:19.38 | DTRemenak | A_Meteorite: if I can find them, sure :) |
| 05:19.42 | A_Meteorite | lol ok |
| 05:19.50 | DTRemenak | should be in a backup somewhere |
| 05:19.52 | Z6 | Matt123: i ment i cant highlite it:D |
| 05:19.53 | Matt123 | sicshooter, you can press . then scroll therough the names to pm someone in game |
| 05:19.55 | A_Meteorite | but for now I really gotta load up the car for the swap meet for early tomorrow |
| 05:20.06 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: you're unbanned now ;) |
| 05:20.09 | Matt123 | Z6, right click ans select all |
| 05:20.19 | A_Meteorite | I need to make it more clear to my cops/admins to warn first |
| 05:20.20 | sicshooter | Thanks again A_Meteorite, drive safe :) |
| 05:20.31 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: it's my mom you need to worry about :P |
| 05:20.33 | Think_differentl | i can make that clear tonight. |
| 05:20.37 | Think_differentl | fro right now |
| 05:20.38 | A_Meteorite | Think_differentl: thanks |
| 05:20.43 | A_Meteorite | tell them I sent you :P |
| 05:20.45 | Think_differentl | just rio and elmer |
| 05:20.47 | A_Meteorite | anyways, I got to go |
| 05:20.49 | Think_differentl | cay |
| 05:20.51 | A_Meteorite | bye |
| 05:20.56 | sicshooter | cya |
| 05:21.25 | Matt123 | did that highlight Z6? |
| 05:21.30 | Z6 | yes |
| 05:21.35 | Matt123 | ok |
| 05:21.40 | sicshooter | eh...still banned... |
| 05:21.48 | Matt123 | ill work in it |
| 05:21.55 | Matt123 | what does it say as the reason sicshooter |
| 05:22.10 | sicshooter | foul language not permitted |
| 05:24.04 | Matt123 | sorry sicshooter i dont have the perm to unban you |
| 05:24.49 | sicshooter | That's ok...now that I know it's not permanent I feel better...thanks for trying :) |
| 05:25.00 | Matt123 | you will have to wait till tomarrow and bring it up with met |
| 05:25.00 | Z6 | ok, sent it |
| 05:25.23 | Matt123 | what is the link to the pastebin? |
| 05:26.00 | Z6 | uhh |
| 05:26.20 | Z6 | ok brb, then explain what a pastebin is lol.. im helpless |
| 05:26.37 | Matt123 | well i think i have to run :sorry: |
| 05:26.46 | Matt123 | it is getting really late |
| 05:27.02 | Matt123 | sorry ttyl |
| 05:27.13 | Matt123 | be back in the morn |
| 05:28.15 | Mr_Molez | Z6: pastebin is just a website to paste any text you want others to see |
| 05:29.50 | Z6 | ok thz |
| 05:30.12 | Z6 | molez, are you familiar with server setup? |
| 05:30.19 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 05:30.23 | Z6 | k |
| 05:30.30 | Z6 | why is your name in orange? |
| 05:30.37 | Mr_Molez | cuz im segsy :P |
| 05:30.53 | Z6 | yea yea yea stop milking my newbness and tell me:D |
| 05:31.29 | Mr_Molez | Z6: all irc clients are different. I am guessing each person shows a different colour righjt ? |
| 05:31.41 | Z6 | no |
| 05:31.58 | Z6 | it seems to happen when someone is speaking dirrectly to me.. |
| 05:31.59 | Mr_Molez | Z6: what client you on ? |
| 05:32.10 | Mr_Molez | Z6: ah yeh that is just to get your attention |
| 05:32.14 | Z6 | im just using zees link |
| 05:32.28 | Z6 | ohh so everyone can see it? even though its orange |
| 05:32.46 | Mr_Molez | Z6: only you will see it as orange nobody else |
| 05:32.51 | *** join/#bzflag Ballard (n=Ballard@stjch2-12-46-85-176.stjohncable.com) |
| 05:33.18 | Z6 | ok:P |
| 05:33.35 | [NP]Tangent | hi ballard |
| 05:33.39 | Z6 | now help me with this server, I just want it set so i can test maps |
| 05:33.46 | Ballard | hi |
| 05:33.46 | Z6 | hello ballard |
| 05:33.51 | Ballard | hi |
| 05:33.52 | Mr_Molez | Z6: do u have the map already ? |
| 05:33.59 | Z6 | yes |
| 05:34.43 | Mr_Molez | Z6: the easiest way is to put the map file into My Documents\My Bzflag Files\worlds |
| 05:35.46 | Z6 | there is no worlds under it lol |
| 05:35.46 | Mr_Molez | then start up bzflag go to join game, start server, and at the bottom it says world map, change that to the map you want then click start server |
| 05:36.05 | Mr_Molez | no worlds under what ? |
| 05:36.25 | Z6 | the my bzflag files |
| 05:36.32 | Mr_Molez | well put one there ;) |
| 05:36.38 | Z6 | lol a folder? |
| 05:37.03 | Mr_Molez | yse put the map you want to test in the worlds folder |
| 05:37.14 | Z6 | ok |
| 05:37.38 | Z6 | now what? |
| 05:37.48 | Mr_Molez | do as i said above :P |
| 05:37.50 | Mr_Molez | then start up bzflag go to join game, start server, and at the bottom it says world map, change that to the map you want then click start server |
| 05:38.01 | Z6 | ok:P |
| 05:39.55 | Z6 | how do i change it to what i want? |
| 05:40.16 | Mr_Molez | use arrow keys |
| 05:40.26 | Z6 | not working,,,:P |
| 05:40.38 | Mr_Molez | uh |
| 05:40.49 | Mr_Molez | did u start bzflag after u put the map in the folder ? |
| 05:41.03 | DTRemenak | make sure it has a .bzw extension |
| 05:41.45 | Z6 | yea.. |
| 05:42.02 | Mr_Molez | Z6: do what DTR said :P |
| 05:42.41 | Z6 | it does.. |
| 05:42.49 | Z6 | its called "worlds" right? |
| 05:43.10 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 05:43.24 | Mr_Molez | worlds is a folder |
| 05:43.32 | Z6 | yup.. everything is right |
| 05:44.14 | Mr_Molez | Z6: ok lets do it the other way then |
| 05:44.23 | blast007 | I have a map with a .bzw extension in that directory, and it doesn't let me pick it with 2.0.8 |
| 05:44.45 | Z6 | heh neither does mine,, |
| 05:45.05 | Mr_Molez | Z6: go to commandline ;) |
| 05:45.23 | Z6 | ohhhh boy.. |
| 05:45.26 | Z6 | ok:D |
| 05:45.30 | blast007 | hehe, again ;D |
| 05:45.35 | DTRemenak | blast007: in other words, it's broken? ;) |
| 05:45.40 | Z6 | ok im here |
| 05:45.41 | blast007 | DTRemenak: apparently |
| 05:45.57 | blast007 | I think I've only had that function work once for me |
| 05:45.58 | Mr_Molez | Z6: cd to program files\ bzflag |
| 05:46.03 | blast007 | not sure what version it was either |
| 05:46.49 | Z6 | kk:D |
| 05:47.37 | Z6 | now whayt |
| 05:47.48 | blast007 | now it's time for the rain dance |
| 05:48.01 | Mr_Molez | Z6: bzfs -world mapname |
| 05:48.03 | Z6 | the rain dance... alrighty:P |
| 05:48.30 | Mr_Molez | Z6: easier to move the map into the programfiles\ bzflag folder :P |
| 05:48.41 | Z6 | i did:P |
| 05:48.44 | blast007 | bzfs -j -ms 5 -world filename.bzw (adds jumping and more bullets) |
| 05:49.12 | blast007 | then launch the client, and connect to localhost on port 5154 |
| 05:49.16 | Mr_Molez | jump ? eww |
| 05:49.37 | blast007 | Mr_Molez: absolutely :) |
| 05:49.48 | DTRemenak | not much reason to test a map with no jump |
| 05:49.56 | DTRemenak | I mean, what would there be to test? |
| 05:50.09 | blast007 | the friction of the grass texture |
| 05:50.14 | blast007 | ;) |
| 05:50.14 | DTRemenak | whee |
| 05:50.19 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 05:51.20 | Z6 | gu is an amazing map:D |
| 05:51.26 | Mr_Molez | pfft |
| 05:51.45 | Z6 | WHOLIE bout 50trillion words, hopefully it worked:D |
| 05:55.02 | Z6 | uh oh |
| 05:55.23 | Z6 | i entered "localhost" and 5154 and it had an error connecting to server |
| 05:56.44 | blast007 | so localhost for the server, and 5154 for the port? |
| 05:56.50 | Z6 | yes |
| 05:57.55 | Mr_Molez | Z6: http://bzflag.pastebin.com/ paste those 50trillion lines on there |
| 05:57.59 | blast007 | is the last line in that command prompt something like "C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.8>" ? |
| 05:58.10 | blast007 | if so, the server exited |
| 05:58.21 | Z6 | yes thats what it says:P |
| 05:58.30 | blast007 | okay, so do what molez said then |
| 05:59.11 | Z6 | k |
| 06:02.29 | Z6 | hmmm its not loading.. |
| 06:03.24 | Z6 | i just put my name under "Your Name" right:P lol |
| 06:04.35 | Mr_Molez | whatever |
| 06:04.41 | Z6 | waiting for pastebin.... |
| 06:05.08 | Mr_Molez | Z6: use pastebin.ca if that is too slow :P |
| 06:05.16 | Z6 | ok |
| 06:06.23 | Z6 | what u want me to name it |
| 06:06.56 | Mr_Molez | anything |
| 06:07.02 | Z6 | k.. |
| 06:07.48 | Z6 | ok |
| 06:08.23 | Z6 | what now give u the link? |
| 06:08.29 | blast007 | yup |
| 06:08.39 | Z6 | http://pastebin.ca/82995 |
| 06:08.44 | *** join/#bzflag PKMOBILE (n=Apathy@c-68-33-243-45.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 06:09.07 | blast007 | okay, run this instead: bzfs -j -ms 5 -world "GUish map.bzw" |
| 06:10.21 | Z6 | do i have to retype the entire thing? |
| 06:10.40 | Mr_Molez | Z6: press up arrow key |
| 06:10.42 | blast007 | press the up arrow |
| 06:10.46 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:11.52 | Z6 | ok i did it that way.. and it stopped again |
| 06:12.52 | Z6 | nvm! |
| 06:12.55 | Z6 | got it working:D |
| 06:13.06 | JeffM2502 | man bzfs is a good thing to type too ;) |
| 06:13.49 | DTRemenak | doesn't do much good on windows ;) |
| 06:16.21 | JeffM2502 | true |
| 06:16.30 | JeffM2502 | tho you weren't saying exe so I figured |
| 06:16.57 | DTRemenak | why type it when windows will append it for ya? ;) |
| 06:17.00 | JeffM2502 | but then it's also an HTML ;) |
| 06:17.27 | Z6 | how do i turn rico on? |
| 06:17.48 | DTRemenak | +r |
| 06:17.55 | Z6 | kk |
| 06:18.18 | Z6 | sooo how do i stop the server now:d\D? |
| 06:18.23 | DTRemenak | ctrl-c |
| 06:18.41 | [NP]Tangent | or, sign on to it, enter your password, and type /shutdownserver |
| 06:18.53 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: he's got no password...see his commandline? ;) |
| 06:18.56 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
| 06:19.01 | [NP]Tangent | fair enough |
| 06:19.15 | JeffM2502 | or close the black window :) |
| 06:19.32 | DTRemenak | yeah, or that :) |
| 06:19.40 | [NP]Tangent | white here |
| 06:19.41 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 06:19.48 | [NP]Tangent | I like to be different |
| 06:19.49 | [NP]Tangent | :> |
| 06:19.57 | Z6 | how do i know my passwrd? |
| 06:20.03 | JeffM2502 | you don't have one |
| 06:20.09 | JeffM2502 | you'd set it with -password |
| 06:20.17 | DTRemenak | set it with -passwd <password> on the commandline |
| 06:20.22 | DTRemenak | hm, or maybe -password |
| 06:20.27 | DTRemenak | never can remember |
| 06:20.44 | [NP]Tangent | I think it's -passwd |
| 06:20.47 | [NP]Tangent | lemme check |
| 06:21.05 | [NP]Tangent | ah no |
| 06:21.11 | [NP]Tangent | -password <pass> |
| 06:22.03 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: where are you seeing that, out of curiosity? |
| 06:22.14 | [NP]Tangent | in my conf file |
| 06:22.39 | DTRemenak | 'cause either it's wrong, or bzfs is wrong...pasting from http://pastebin.ca/82995 "ist][-noradar][-p <port>] [-passdb <password file>] [-passwd <password>] [-pidfi" |
| 06:22.55 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 06:22.59 | [NP]Tangent | -password works |
| 06:23.07 | [NP]Tangent | cuz that's what my server is using |
| 06:23.09 | [NP]Tangent | and it works |
| 06:23.14 | JeffM2502 | I think it checks for both |
| 06:23.30 | DTRemenak | yeah, it does both |
| 06:23.37 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.49 | DTRemenak | aren't we consistent now ;) |
| 06:24.38 | JeffM2502 | do it |
| 06:24.44 | JeffM2502 | make it only work from a config :) |
| 06:24.48 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:24.57 | DTRemenak | then all my shell scripts would break ;) |
| 06:25.03 | JeffM2502 | you'll live |
| 06:25.06 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:25.21 | DTRemenak | we've got a lot of old cruft in there |
| 06:25.27 | DTRemenak | +r for instance ;) |
| 06:25.50 | DTRemenak | should be -ricochet. or --ricochet if went gnu-style |
| 06:26.22 | DTRemenak | not to mention all the switches that just do bzdb sets |
| 06:26.54 | JeffM2502 | yeah |
| 06:26.58 | JeffM2502 | bzdb can do most of it |
| 06:27.03 | [NP]Tangent | I think it woud be -r or --ricochet |
| 06:27.15 | [NP]Tangent | I've noticed that the single-dash flags are usually only one letter |
| 06:27.23 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: that's gnu style |
| 06:27.25 | [NP]Tangent | so, might be easy to remember that way |
| 06:27.36 | [NP]Tangent | yup |
| 06:27.56 | DTRemenak | bsd's have traditionally done single-dash long switches |
| 06:28.07 | DTRemenak | windows has used /, but we ain't gonna do that |
| 06:30.15 | JeffM2502 | what are you telling it now? |
| 06:31.03 | DTRemenak | all sorts of things |
| 06:31.16 | JeffM2502 | "It's ok baby, everyone loves you " |
| 06:31.20 | DTRemenak | should have some interesting screenshots in a bit, hopefully |
| 06:32.03 | JeffM2502 | letters don't work |
| 06:32.06 | JeffM2502 | list server no likely |
| 06:32.11 | DTRemenak | bah humbug |
| 06:32.14 | DTRemenak | silly list server |
| 06:32.23 | DTRemenak | client likes them just fine |
| 06:32.32 | JeffM2502 | yeah client and server will be cool |
| 06:32.49 | DTRemenak | wonder how much trouble it'd be to fix the list server |
| 06:32.58 | DTRemenak | wonder how much trouble I'd get in for fixing the list server |
| 06:33.18 | JeffM2502 | are you doin the same thing I'm doin again? |
| 06:33.39 | DTRemenak | probably not |
| 06:34.04 | DTRemenak | you're working on trusted binaries or something |
| 06:34.05 | JeffM2502 | net stuff? |
| 06:34.16 | DTRemenak | not major, just a few extra messages |
| 06:34.26 | DTRemenak | you only wish I was doing major net stuff ;) |
| 06:34.48 | DTRemenak | and this stuff will probably never make it into the tree |
| 06:34.54 | DTRemenak | but we shall see |
| 06:35.02 | JeffM2502 | it all has to start somewhere :) |
| 06:35.31 | DTRemenak | actually I'm reminding myself of you, it's a strange sensation ;) |
| 06:35.38 | JeffM2502 | how so? |
| 06:36.37 | DTRemenak | just the stuff I'm doing. does not fit the, shall we say, "status quo" of bzflag. |
| 06:36.51 | JeffM2502 | so many good ideas don't |
| 06:37.22 | DTRemenak | breaking major gameplay paradigms, that sort of thing. the sort of thing you do all the time ;) |
| 06:37.29 | JeffM2502 | heh |
| 06:37.32 | JeffM2502 | like what? |
| 06:37.41 | JeffM2502 | the flag idea that person had? |
| 06:37.49 | DTRemenak | yeah, something approximating it |
| 06:37.59 | JeffM2502 | flag hoging |
| 06:38.05 | DTRemenak | carrying multiple flags, but only using one at a time |
| 06:38.08 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's the idea |
| 06:38.23 | DTRemenak | interesting strategies appear...like trying to take all the ST's when you're using GM |
| 06:38.52 | DTRemenak | I figure it'll be fun to play for a while just to see how the strategies work out |
| 06:39.03 | JeffM2502 | implement the server side flag atribute stack, then the server just tells them what there next weapon is :) |
| 06:39.39 | DTRemenak | actually I have it so you pick up flags off the field still. just you stick them in slots, and tell the server when you're switching between them |
| 06:40.12 | JeffM2502 | too much client trust |
| 06:40.32 | DTRemenak | no more client trust than bzflag does now |
| 06:40.49 | JeffM2502 | yeah but we know that is bad ;) |
| 06:41.09 | DTRemenak | switch to an empty slot. your current flag is nothing. pick up a flag the usual way. the server checks it out, sticks it in one of your slots. your client sticks it in the same slot |
| 06:41.14 | *** join/#bzflag Z6 (n=42dee71e@zeebrothers.net) |
| 06:41.26 | DTRemenak | when you switch to a slot that has a flag in it, all the client does is tell it which slot, not which flag |
| 06:41.37 | Z6 | hehe |
| 06:41.41 | DTRemenak | so there's no additional trust whatsoever |
| 06:41.50 | Z6 | I think i must have froze.. |
| 06:41.52 | DTRemenak | the arsenal is maintained entirely on the server side |
| 06:42.16 | DTRemenak | course you can still cheat by picking up flags you otherwise couldn't, but that's no different than it is now ;) |
| 06:42.23 | Z6 | did my message from bout 30secs ago show up? |
| 06:42.51 | DTRemenak | Z6: you left the channel about 20 minutes ago |
| 06:43.05 | Z6 | not on my screen:D |
| 06:43.12 | Z6 | anyways |
| 06:43.14 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:43.48 | Z6 | i have another question, howcome when i edit my map save the changes then restart the server the map stays the same? |
| 06:44.06 | DTRemenak | are you saving the right file? ;) |
| 06:44.24 | Z6 | i believe so:D |
| 06:45.28 | Z6 | perhaps i have to cange the name everytime so it recognizes its different? |
| 06:45.31 | JeffM2502 | no |
| 06:45.34 | Z6 | change* |
| 06:46.38 | Z6 | so any ideas on why it isn't changing? |
| 06:47.44 | DTRemenak | JeffM2502: it also reminded me of your typical behavior because it's implementing a feature virtually every other fps on the market has ;) |
| 06:48.04 | JeffM2502 | dosn't mean they are wrong ;) |
| 06:48.10 | DTRemenak | true enough :) |
| 06:50.54 | sicshooter | wow...I never thought of bz as an fps....strange to think of that way... |
| 06:51.20 | DTRemenak | sicshooter: it's not your typical fps |
| 06:51.27 | sicshooter | lol |
| 06:51.38 | DTRemenak | one-shot kills, no vertical aiming, that sort of thing |
| 06:51.50 | DTRemenak | more thinking and less twitch |
| 06:51.56 | [NP]Tangent | wow... some kid's threatening to stab me... on a myspace forum... |
| 06:52.01 | [NP]Tangent | wtf? |
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| 06:52.09 | [NP]Tangent | hi janis |
| 06:52.13 | sicshooter | I think of bz as being more like billiards than a video game |
| 06:52.21 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: hey, at least he's not threatening to kill you with a bow ;) |
| 06:52.26 | {janis} | hi all |
| 06:52.34 | {janis} | hi Tangen |
| 06:52.38 | sicshooter | hello |
| 06:52.39 | DTRemenak | sicshooter: in a lot of ways, it is :) |
| 06:52.43 | [NP]Tangent | DTRemenak, he's mad because he started an argument with me and I called him a human sphere |
| 06:52.43 | Z6 | im sure he feels better now, hello |
| 06:52.50 | [NP]Tangent | cuz he's as tall as me and twice as wide |
| 06:52.57 | Z6 | lol |
| 06:53.02 | {janis} | i have some problems |
| 06:53.11 | DTRemenak | {janis}: I should say so. |
| 06:53.23 | {janis} | if pimpi is here or someone other knows. |
| 06:53.39 | {janis} | where i can get Plugin what is running on 1vs1.pimpi.org |
| 06:57.40 | Z6 | grr, anything i can do to get my map to actualy change? |
| 06:58.33 | Z6 | oh well, im going to go to bed, night all |
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| 07:12.15 | ruskie | {janis}, what plugin? |
| 07:17.58 | {janis} | ruskie |
| 07:18.02 | {janis} | i need a |
| 07:18.11 | {janis} | plugin what is on 1vs1.bzflag.org:5155 |
| 07:18.41 | ruskie | what plugin |
| 07:18.56 | A_Meteorite | I think he means the /official thing |
| 07:19.04 | {janis} | no |
| 07:19.07 | {janis} | nnot official |
| 07:19.12 | {janis} | nhave you seen how it scores? |
| 07:19.20 | {janis} | when somebody dies it sais |
| 07:19.32 | A_Meteorite | oh, that may be -printscore iirc |
| 07:19.35 | A_Meteorite | I don't know |
| 07:19.52 | ruskie | afaik it was doing that before plugins were introduced... |
| 07:20.05 | {janis} | {janis} died 1 time, Lifes left 9 |
| 07:20.05 | A_Meteorite | might be -printscore then :) |
| 07:20.10 | {janis} | no |
| 07:20.12 | {janis} | i tried it |
| 07:23.48 | DTRemenak | ruskie: yeah, it was a patch first. might still be |
| 07:24.11 | ruskie | ahh |
| 07:36.16 | {janis} | guys need help |
| 07:36.31 | {janis} | what i type if hepbot in irc asks {janis}, are you high? |
| 07:36.51 | A_Meteorite | uh |
| 07:36.54 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 07:37.33 | A_Meteorite | never seen him before |
| 07:37.44 | {janis} | come to /channel #hepcat |
| 07:37.51 | A_Meteorite | I am |
| 07:44.31 | {janis} | is JeffM2502 = ChanServ |
| 07:44.32 | {janis} | ? |
| 07:44.51 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 07:45.03 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2502 is when something happens to JeffM2501 :) |
| 07:46.32 | A_Meteorite | ~seen cosmos |
| 07:46.41 | ibot | cosmos is currently on #bzflag #kierra #pillbox ##essy. Has said a total of 58 messages. Is idling for 4h 21m 21s, last said: 'what server message'. |
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| 09:19.43 | [NP]Tangent | that was fun |
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| 10:37.23 | Thonolan | phouuff iam away ;-) |
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| 13:04.17 | spldart | hehe |
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| 14:10.32 | Goliath0807000 | hi all |
| 14:11.23 | Goliath0807000 | can anyone tell me how to make a plugin for myself on a mac os x 10.4.6 it would be greatly appreaciated |
| 14:13.28 | Goliath0807000 | ?? |
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| 14:19.01 | Goliath0807000 | can anyone tell me how to make a plugin for myself on a mac os x 10.4.6 it would be greatly appreaciated |
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| 14:23.41 | spldart | You'll need to give it some time on a slow sunday morning... Just hang out |
| 14:24.09 | Goliath0807000 | ? |
| 14:24.10 | A_Heart_Attack | what? |
| 14:24.27 | spldart | The Dev's prolly haven't even had their first cup of coffee let alone are back at their machines. to early.. |
| 14:24.34 | Goliath0807000 | i asked if someone can tell me how to make a bzflag plugin on a mac |
| 14:24.47 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 14:25.02 | A_Heart_Attack | how would you make one on a PC? |
| 14:25.04 | spldart | Alot of the names on the list are prolly away from their machines Goliath. |
| 14:25.06 | A-Delusion | make the plugin, and makefile, add to plugins folder and compile with bzfs using --enable-shared |
| 14:25.35 | A_Heart_Attack | how would you actually make the plugin |
| 14:25.52 | A-Delusion | using c++ |
| 14:26.16 | A_Heart_Attack | then i need to learn C++ |
| 14:27.12 | A_Heart_Attack | where would i learn it |
| 14:27.47 | spldart | eek |
| 14:28.09 | A-Delusion | school would be a good start |
| 14:28.39 | A_Heart_Attack | huh? |
| 14:29.05 | spldart | Liken C++ to a foreign language and you'll get it |
| 14:29.38 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 14:32.52 | inchworm | there are some c++ texts on the net |
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| 14:33.28 | A-Delusion | goliath, what's your idea for a plugin? |
| 14:34.39 | inchworm | Goliath0807000: try c++ programming on google there are at least 3 tutorial pages on the first result page |
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| 14:50.13 | Goliath0807000 | hi gnurdux |
| 14:50.17 | Gnurdux | hu |
| 14:50.19 | Goliath0807000 | hi birdie |
| 14:50.19 | Gnurdux | *hi |
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| 15:23.01 | Gnurdux | hi [dmp] |
| 15:23.13 | A_Heart_Attack | hey [dmp] |
| 15:23.23 | pyr02k1[a] | hi person |
| 15:23.27 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 15:23.31 | pyr02k1[a] | im just joinin the crowd |
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| 15:25.47 | pyr02k1[a] | whoops, wrong keystroke |
| 15:25.54 | spldart | :-x |
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| 16:04.25 | Z6 | hmm, anybody here able to refresh my memory of what i put in the command window after typing bzflags path? it was something -world |
| 16:06.02 | A_Heart_Attack | umm |
| 16:06.07 | blast007 | bzfs -j -ms 5 -world "your file.bzw" |
| 16:06.09 | A_Heart_Attack | you would do -world to load a map |
| 16:06.17 | Z6 | there it is :D ty |
| 16:06.20 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 16:06.23 | A_Heart_Attack | thanks blast |
| 16:06.27 | A_Heart_Attack | you beet me to it |
| 16:08.03 | Z6 | how strange.. |
| 16:08.40 | Z6 | howcome when I have 2 maps in my world file one gives me an error and the other works? |
| 16:10.28 | Z6 | nevermind I figured it out, I had a map in my bzflag file also a copy, apparently i need one there also |
| 16:11.04 | blast007 | you only need the world file in one location |
| 16:12.13 | Z6 | just to clarify it is suposed to be titled "worlds" right? |
| 16:14.19 | blast007 | bzfs will not search for your world file |
| 16:14.25 | blast007 | as far I as know |
| 16:14.46 | blast007 | you either need to give it the full path to the world file, or put it into the current directory |
| 16:15.36 | A_Heart_Attack | no it wont search |
| 16:15.53 | A_Heart_Attack | put the world file in the same place as bzfs |
| 16:16.07 | A_Heart_Attack | and just do -world "nameofworld.bzw" |
| 16:16.11 | Z6 | ohhh, there is where i was going wrong, thank you' |
| 16:17.20 | Z6 | i keep getting an error, apparently ir cant find world? |
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| 16:18.01 | Z6 | it* |
| 16:18.19 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 16:18.22 | A_Heart_Attack | then do |
| 16:18.30 | A_Heart_Attack | wait |
| 16:18.32 | A_Heart_Attack | whats OS r u |
| 16:18.39 | Z6 | winXP |
| 16:18.46 | A_Heart_Attack | kk |
| 16:18.46 | A_Heart_Attack | do |
| 16:19.02 | A_Heart_Attack | -world "path\to\work\file.bzw" |
| 16:19.08 | Z6 | k |
| 16:20.14 | Z6 | now my world file "failed to load" |
| 16:20.35 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 16:20.38 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 16:20.45 | A_Heart_Attack | where is the world file |
| 16:20.51 | A_Heart_Attack | give me the path |
| 16:20.53 | Z6 | "Error" a world wasnot specified |
| 16:20.58 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 16:20.59 | A_Heart_Attack | ahh |
| 16:21.02 | A_Heart_Attack | is it ctf? |
| 16:21.06 | Z6 | yes |
| 16:21.09 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 16:21.12 | A_Heart_Attack | what teamn colors |
| 16:21.15 | A_Heart_Attack | *team |
| 16:21.18 | Z6 | red so far..:D |
| 16:21.22 | A_Heart_Attack | thats it |
| 16:21.24 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 16:21.31 | A_Heart_Attack | you need more than one team |
| 16:21.37 | Z6 | hmm ok |
| 16:21.44 | A_Heart_Attack | ok go do that and save it |
| 16:21.46 | Z6 | but i had one last night and it was wrking fine lol |
| 16:21.47 | A_Heart_Attack | then come and tell me |
| 16:21.53 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 16:21.55 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 16:22.05 | A_Heart_Attack | do |
| 16:22.11 | A_Heart_Attack | waiot |
| 16:22.13 | A_Heart_Attack | *wait |
| 16:22.14 | A_Heart_Attack | one sec |
| 16:22.31 | Z6 | kk, i did it anyway |
| 16:22.45 | Z6 | still get the same error |
| 16:22.55 | A_Heart_Attack | kk |
| 16:23.01 | A_Heart_Attack | add this to the line of commands |
| 16:23.02 | A_Heart_Attack | mp 0,1,0,0,0,0 |
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| 16:23.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:23.56 | A_Heart_Attack | hey jef |
| 16:23.59 | A_Heart_Attack | *jeff |
| 16:24.21 | Z6 | ok, it worked, but it stopped lol, i see bzflags path in the window again |
| 16:24.36 | A_Heart_Attack | hmm |
| 16:24.42 | A_Heart_Attack | does it give any errors? |
| 16:24.52 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 16:24.54 | Z6 | ohh apparently it had a Bad argument "mp" |
| 16:25.02 | A_Heart_Attack | make sure its -mp |
| 16:25.38 | A_Heart_Attack | jeffm2501: nothing much |
| 16:25.39 | Z6 | *sigh* now it says a world not specified.. |
| 16:25.49 | A_Heart_Attack | im helping z6 with his server |
| 16:26.00 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 16:26.04 | A_Heart_Attack | i know |
| 16:26.55 | A_Heart_Attack | z6 i gtg |
| 16:27.04 | A_Heart_Attack | ask someone else to help |
| 16:27.10 | Z6 | ah:D see you |
| 16:27.50 | Z6 | anybody else see a problem in what he has been telling me? |
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| 16:33.29 | Mr_Molez | Z6: lol are you still at it ? |
| 16:33.34 | Z6 | yes:( |
| 16:33.38 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 16:33.43 | Mr_Molez | Z6: whats ur prob ? |
| 16:33.45 | Z6 | its wont load now! |
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| 16:36.08 | Z6 | ok so i entered "bzfs -j -ms 5 -mp 0,1,0,0,0,0 +r -world "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner.user\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\worlds "map.bzw" |
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| 16:36.40 | romfis | hi tracovic! |
| 16:36.51 | trac_ | hey :) |
| 16:37.25 | Mr_Molez | Z6: worlds\map.bzw" |
| 16:37.27 | trac_ | eigentlich woran erkennt man, wer hier idled und wer hier wirklich zu erreichen ist? |
| 16:37.46 | romfis | hä? |
| 16:37.55 | Z6 | and it comes up with "Error: could not find bzflag world file, Error: unexpected EOF Error: a world was not specified |
| 16:37.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah you put the entire path in quotes |
| 16:38.00 | Z6 | ok il try that molez |
| 16:38.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah cus you didn't give a valid path ;) |
| 16:38.13 | Z6 | hehe |
| 16:38.50 | Z6 | ok it worked, and then it stopped aagin |
| 16:38.53 | Z6 | again* |
| 16:38.53 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 16:38.56 | Mr_Molez | pastebin |
| 16:39.08 | Z6 | alrighty:D |
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| 16:43.21 | Z6 | http://pastebin.ca/83293 |
| 16:43.54 | Z6 | go down to tge bottom |
| 16:44.00 | Z6 | the* |
| 16:44.04 | JeffM2501 | you didn't get the quotes right |
| 16:44.11 | Z6 | no? |
| 16:44.19 | JeffM2501 | it's -world "c:/path/to/yourmap/map.bzw" |
| 16:44.30 | JeffM2501 | start the entire map part with a " |
| 16:44.36 | JeffM2501 | and end it with a " |
| 16:44.39 | JeffM2501 | AFTER the map |
| 16:44.42 | JeffM2501 | no extra spaces |
| 16:44.45 | JeffM2501 | no extra nothin |
| 16:44.54 | Z6 | ok did that got the error gain |
| 16:45.21 | JeffM2501 | # |
| 16:45.21 | JeffM2501 | bzfs -j -ms 5 -mp 0,1,0,0,0,0 +r -world "C:\Document |
| 16:45.21 | JeffM2501 | s and Settings\Owner.User\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\worlds\map.bzw" |
| 16:45.42 | JeffM2501 | or just put the map in the folder that has bzfs |
| 16:45.52 | JeffM2501 | then just do -world map.bzw |
| 16:45.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a lot easyer |
| 16:47.05 | Z6 | same stupid error.. |
| 16:47.48 | JeffM2501 | where is the map? |
| 16:48.04 | Z6 | heh u just typed it |
| 16:48.12 | JeffM2501 | where is the map? |
| 16:48.18 | JeffM2501 | in your docs folder? |
| 16:48.29 | Z6 | in the "worlds" fp;der |
| 16:48.33 | Z6 | folder* |
| 16:48.35 | JeffM2501 | put the map in the same folder as bzfs |
| 16:48.44 | JeffM2501 | the map dosn't have to go in the "worlds" folder |
| 16:48.53 | JeffM2501 | it's a bad place for it and a pain in the ass to type in every time |
| 16:49.29 | Z6 | hehe it is |
| 16:49.52 | Z6 | k did that, still the same error |
| 16:50.03 | JeffM2501 | so it's sitting right next to bzfs? |
| 16:50.41 | Z6 | yup |
| 16:50.56 | JeffM2501 | ok then just type bzfs -world map.bzw |
| 16:50.59 | JeffM2501 | and see what happens |
| 16:51.31 | Z6 | *sigh* same error |
| 16:51.39 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 16:51.45 | JeffM2501 | how did you get/make your map? |
| 16:51.56 | Z6 | yes, i made it |
| 16:52.07 | JeffM2501 | in what? |
| 16:52.13 | JeffM2501 | text editor? |
| 16:52.14 | Z6 | bzedit |
| 16:52.17 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 16:52.43 | JeffM2501 | and you renamed it and took off the .map and changed it to .bzw? |
| 16:52.44 | romfis | what for map is that ? |
| 16:53.24 | Z6 | wow. |
| 16:53.31 | JeffM2501 | right click on the map file, hit properties, tell me what it says under "type of file" |
| 16:53.39 | Z6 | k just a sec |
| 16:53.50 | JeffM2501 | it may be that your hiding extensions and it's realy called map.bzw.map |
| 16:53.57 | Z6 | i made another map saved it there as map2 and it works,, |
| 16:54.15 | JeffM2501 | then something is wacky with your other map file, or the name of it |
| 16:54.37 | Z6 | yea must be |
| 16:54.50 | JeffM2501 | use the simple path to figure that out |
| 16:54.55 | Z6 | thx for help though |
| 16:55.01 | JeffM2501 | then once you have that working, you can put back in the other command line options |
| 16:55.05 | Z6 | i think i got it:D |
| 16:55.19 | Z6 | okay! thanks again |
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| 19:57.47 | Mr_Molez | doesn't the bzflag MOTD need changing now ? |
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| 20:43.25 | brlcad | yay, go italy |
| 20:43.32 | romfis | lol |
| 20:43.34 | romfis | see |
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| 20:44.09 | Gnurdux | YAY!!! Stupid French! |
| 20:44.14 | romfis | FREE PIZZA!!!!! |
| 20:44.19 | romfis | :D |
| 20:44.26 | lan56 | mmmmm pizza |
| 20:44.35 | romfis | or paste |
| 20:45.43 | romfis | ok, i must go italy for Free Pizza ;P |
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| 21:01.31 | Gnurdux | stoopid netsplit |
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| 21:02.42 | Gnurdux | did the server actually crash?? why aren't people joining at the same time? |
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| 21:05.23 | stjepan | hi |
| 21:05.35 | lan56 | hi stjepan |
| 21:05.37 | stjepan | does anyone know any admins of viper2.pimpi.org? |
| 21:05.41 | stjepan | I have a big problem |
| 21:05.48 | stjepan | here it is: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8512 |
| 21:05.54 | stjepan | can anyone help me? |
| 21:06.56 | Birdie | send a private message on that site to the person who banned your brother |
| 21:07.07 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 21:07.11 | ruskie | I'll check who it was... |
| 21:07.12 | stjepan | he banned me too :) |
| 21:07.19 | stjepan | because me and my brother share the computer |
| 21:07.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 21:07.27 | Birdie | i mean the site where you posted |
| 21:07.36 | Birdie | there you search the nick of the person who banned both of you |
| 21:07.40 | Birdie | and explain him the situation |
| 21:07.45 | stjepan | aha |
| 21:07.48 | stjepan | ok I will try |
| 21:08.01 | Birdie | who banned you? |
| 21:08.10 | ruskie | 1268 minutes left to the ban |
| 21:08.13 | ruskie | made by Moto Unit |
| 21:08.24 | stjepan | yeah, MotoUnit |
| 21:08.30 | stjepan | tnx |
| 21:08.31 | CBG | ~1268/60 |
| 21:08.33 | ibot | 21.133333333333 |
| 21:08.38 | stjepan | Manu, are you an admin there? |
| 21:08.46 | ToughShooter | He's one |
| 21:08.49 | CBG | less than a day, I'd forget about it, go back there on Tuesday. |
| 21:08.51 | stjepan | ruskie, really? can you unban me? |
| 21:08.55 | stjepan | Birdie, can you? |
| 21:09.01 | stjepan | Manu, can you? :) |
| 21:09.04 | ToughShooter | However it depends on what the situation was |
| 21:09.04 | ruskie | I don't unban other ppl's bans |
| 21:09.12 | ruskie | need info from Moto Unit |
| 21:09.14 | ToughShooter | yeah, I don't do, either |
| 21:09.21 | stjepan | :( |
| 21:09.22 | Birdie | ruskie: exactly.. |
| 21:09.33 | Birdie | you have to understand we cant overrule other people their bans.. |
| 21:09.35 | romfis | what is on viper ? |
| 21:09.39 | ToughShooter | We need to know why the ban happened from the banner |
| 21:09.41 | Birdie | we need their opinion first |
| 21:09.46 | ruskie | yeah |
| 21:09.47 | Birdie | (from the one who banned you) |
| 21:09.56 | stjepan | ok I will contact Moto Unit |
| 21:09.57 | Birdie | so thats why you have to send him a private message on the site where you posted |
| 21:09.59 | Birdie | right |
| 21:10.04 | CBG | It's just one day, no point making a fuss. |
| 21:10.13 | ToughShooter | There must be a reason, Moto is a good sportsman |
| 21:10.18 | CBG | MoToUnit may not even get your message in a day... :) |
| 21:10.37 | ruskie | when I ban for 24h it means I'm in a bad mood :) |
| 21:10.50 | Birdie | it all depends on the situation |
| 21:10.56 | CBG | Depends on the reason. |
| 21:11.04 | ruskie | yup |
| 21:11.06 | Birdie | outside lag, i'll ban at least for some days till a week |
| 21:11.12 | CBG | 1d for cheating is very lenient. 1d for lag, THEN I am in a BAD day! :) |
| 21:11.15 | Birdie | (tk, cursing..) |
| 21:11.20 | ruskie | cheating is perm ban |
| 21:11.23 | Birdie | right |
| 21:11.46 | ruskie | anything else is from as littel as 10m to 24h and if I see it repeat 1w and so on... |
| 21:11.48 | CBG | s/day/mood/ |
| 21:12.00 | ToughShooter | lag is usually something like 30 minutes |
| 21:12.01 | stjepan | I think there's no MotoUnit on the forum |
| 21:12.06 | ToughShooter | at least this is what I do |
| 21:12.11 | ruskie | the nick is "Moto Unit" |
| 21:12.24 | stjepan | I am curious |
| 21:12.28 | Manu | stjepan: hi |
| 21:12.29 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: he wasn't contesting the reason (tk), he was complaining that he shares the ip with the person who was banned |
| 21:12.33 | stjepan | I think he is pretty much inactive there |
| 21:12.52 | ruskie | stjepan, well not all of us like forums :) |
| 21:12.57 | Manu | stjepan: what do you want? |
| 21:13.00 | stjepan | and that's the problem :( |
| 21:13.00 | Birdie | its just one other day, you will survive it one more day i hope?;:Ã |
| 21:13.03 | stjepan | Manu: I am banned |
| 21:13.04 | CBG | There is a chance that he will get an email notifiing him of your message. |
| 21:13.20 | DTRemenak | stjepan: if you send him a private message, he will see when he logs into bzflag that he has a pm waiting |
| 21:13.25 | ruskie | Manu, Moto Unit banned his brother jukov fol 24h |
| 21:13.26 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: I prefer to ask the banner. The banned people could say something wrong |
| 21:13.33 | Manu | ah |
| 21:13.34 | ruskie | Manu, and they use the same IP |
| 21:13.36 | CBG | And as I keep saying, would you die if you cannot play at one particular server for 21 hours...? |
| 21:13.49 | Manu | well it's only 24h, you can blame your brother |
| 21:13.55 | stjepan | and my post is deleted :( |
| 21:13.58 | ruskie | stjepan, are both of you registered? |
| 21:14.05 | ruskie | globaly? |
| 21:14.06 | stjepan | Manu: you sure it's 24h only? |
| 21:14.12 | Manu | let me see |
| 21:14.15 | ruskie | it's 21h left |
| 21:14.15 | stjepan | ruskie, yeah, both of us |
| 21:14.17 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: just seems to me that the banner will not have anything more to contribute. "I banned x for tk'ing"...ok, well, that banned y too :) |
| 21:14.26 | stjepan | ruskie: you sure? |
| 21:14.26 | ruskie | Manu, we could unban the ip and only do an idban? |
| 21:14.37 | ruskie | stjepan, I posted the info direct from the banlist |
| 21:14.50 | ruskie | 1200 minutes left |
| 21:14.55 | ruskie | or some such |
| 21:14.56 | Birdie | why was his post deleted actually? |
| 21:15.07 | stjepan | and after 1200 minutes I will be able to play there? |
| 21:15.12 | Birdie | yes |
| 21:15.15 | stjepan | great |
| 21:15.15 | Birdie | which is 21 hours |
| 21:15.16 | JeffM2501 | because we don't do ban arbitraton on bzbb |
| 21:15.18 | *** join/#bzflag deprecated (n=deprecat@c-24-18-18-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:15.25 | JeffM2501 | as is posted in many places |
| 21:15.31 | stjepan | I also have a problem |
| 21:15.43 | stjepan | in windows, bzflag work perfectly |
| 21:16.11 | stjepan | in linux, bzflag doesn't. It works if I login with an unregistered callsign |
| 21:16.19 | ruskie | Manu, since both are globaly registered we can id ban jukov? |
| 21:16.35 | ruskie | and drop the ip ban? |
| 21:16.37 | stjepan | but if I use registered callsign "stjepan", bzflag crashes with message "Segmentation fault" |
| 21:17.08 | stjepan | btw, I use archlinux |
| 21:17.15 | ToughShooter | stjepan: Do you have a backtrace? |
| 21:17.22 | stjepan | I don't know |
| 21:17.28 | Manu | stjepan: it's due the last Curl library |
| 21:17.35 | stjepan | so what to do? |
| 21:17.36 | DTRemenak | stjepan: go to "find servers" before logging in, or downgrade your libcurl. some new version of curl has a bug which bzflag triggers. |
| 21:17.39 | Manu | it's been reported |
| 21:17.52 | Pimpinella | hmm, stjepan, situation cleared? |
| 21:17.52 | ToughShooter | Manu: Could be, could also something else |
| 21:17.55 | Manu | DTRemenak: there is a bug with the latest curl version |
| 21:18.03 | Manu | and Archlinux uses it |
| 21:18.08 | stjepan | DTRemenak> stjepan: go to "find servers" before logging in |
| 21:18.17 | DTRemenak | Manu: yes, 'tis what I said :) |
| 21:18.18 | stjepan | I dont understand this? |
| 21:18.23 | JeffM2501 | Manu, but there is something we can do about it :) |
| 21:18.25 | Pimpinella | your link doesn?t seem to exist anymore |
| 21:18.34 | JeffM2501 | obviously we are doing something difrent for list then we are for no list |
| 21:18.39 | DTRemenak | hit "find servers" before joining any server |
| 21:18.43 | stjepan | Manu: what distro do you use? |
| 21:18.55 | Manu | JeffM2501: is happens also during the game |
| 21:19.03 | stjepan | and is it a bug with libcurl or bzflag? |
| 21:19.08 | DTRemenak | libcurl |
| 21:19.09 | JeffM2501 | but I'm saying one call to curl works, one dosn't |
| 21:19.18 | JeffM2501 | so we must have something difrent in our calls to curl |
| 21:19.22 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: we're using it legally both places |
| 21:19.24 | stjepan | DTRemenak: ok thanks for the tip |
| 21:19.25 | ruskie | Pimpinella, let's say resolved :) |
| 21:19.29 | DTRemenak | it's a definate curl bug |
| 21:19.34 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, it may be "legal" but something causes the crash |
| 21:19.37 | ruskie | Pimpinella, not to the best satisfaction though :) |
| 21:20.00 | Pimpinella | bz crashes here in libcurl too |
| 21:20.02 | ruskie | Pimpinella, his brother was ip banned and they sahre the same ip |
| 21:20.12 | stjepan | Isn't it better to just go to find servers and then connect? |
| 21:20.34 | Manu | JeffM2501: I have been debugging bzflag code and also crashes at playing.cxx line 6099, executing cURLManager::perform() |
| 21:20.43 | Pimpinella | it mostly crashes if i rejoin a server with unchanged settings |
| 21:20.44 | Manu | s/also/always/g |
| 21:20.47 | JeffM2501 | but why dosn't it crash when we do the list on perform? |
| 21:21.24 | Manu | and the most annoying.. only happens joining viper :( (for me) |
| 21:21.28 | stjepan | ehh my brother practices shooting at teammates :)) |
| 21:21.42 | Pimpinella | no, also happened on other servers here |
| 21:21.50 | ruskie | stjepan, well next time he'll get an idban |
| 21:21.59 | ruskie | stjepan, that way you'll be unaffected |
| 21:22.01 | Manu | stjepan: you are out of topic, just wait for tomorrow and talk to your brother or the next time probably you will be banned forever |
| 21:22.13 | stjepan | he's maybe too young for bzflag, he's only 8, and when I saw that I am banned, I removed bzflag in windoze immediately :o) |
| 21:22.19 | ruskie | Manu, idban ought to work |
| 21:22.21 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:22.38 | Manu | ruskie: his bro isn't registered |
| 21:22.46 | ruskie | he said they are both |
| 21:22.46 | stjepan | he is |
| 21:22.53 | stjepan | we are both registered |
| 21:23.01 | JeffM2501 | your brother registered at age 8 with out a coppa? |
| 21:23.04 | Manu | he can use whatever callsign |
| 21:23.06 | JeffM2501 | he can't do that |
| 21:23.06 | *** join/#bzflag [NP]Tangent (n=hyperdev@71-211-201-61.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 21:23.13 | JeffM2501 | we can't store data for him |
| 21:23.29 | JeffM2501 | you have to be 13 or send us permision to store data for him |
| 21:23.31 | stjepan | but don't worry, he will never play bzflag agin :))] |
| 21:23.37 | JeffM2501 | what name |
| 21:23.42 | JeffM2501 | I have to leagaly delete the account |
| 21:23.49 | stjepan | ah ok sry |
| 21:23.54 | stjepan | he's callsign is jakov |
| 21:24.03 | stjepan | remove it |
| 21:24.31 | Manu | stjepan: you can play again... but warn your brother |
| 21:24.37 | stjepan | I did |
| 21:24.44 | Mr_Molez | gnurdux is only 12 :P |
| 21:24.48 | stjepan | no more bzflagging for him |
| 21:24.51 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, 14 |
| 21:24.54 | stjepan | I am 15 |
| 21:25.06 | Gnurdux | tho i signed up on forum when i was 12 i think |
| 21:25.12 | Mr_Molez | :O |
| 21:25.12 | ruskie | JeffM2501, I think it would be impossible for you to police all the ppl that claim are above 13yrs old but aren't :) |
| 21:25.24 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 21:25.26 | Gnurdux | as long as he doesnt know, hes not at fault |
| 21:25.31 | ruskie | true |
| 21:25.34 | JeffM2501 | but If I hear that somone is I have to do something |
| 21:25.41 | Mr_Molez | why delete his account, can't you just make it so he cant post on the forum ? |
| 21:25.41 | Gnurdux | if he knowingly let a 12-year-old in, he is |
| 21:25.42 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 21:25.49 | Gnurdux | who is only 12? |
| 21:25.52 | JeffM2501 | I can't activly police them, but if it can be said that I know, and didn't do anything.... |
| 21:26.09 | DTRemenak | Mr_Molez: we keep email addresses on file, which are protected by coppa |
| 21:26.21 | DTRemenak | we can't keep the email addresses if they're under 13 without parental consent |
| 21:26.25 | brlcad | Gnurdux: aren't you 12? |
| 21:26.26 | Mr_Molez | ahh |
| 21:26.27 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 21:26.30 | DTRemenak | so we've gotta delete the account |
| 21:26.32 | ruskie | wth is coppa? |
| 21:26.39 | stjepan | okay guys... you helped me very much. Thank you all! Bye and good night! |
| 21:26.39 | Gnurdux | brlcad, im 14 |
| 21:26.44 | JeffM2501 | Child Online Privacy Protection ACt |
| 21:26.46 | Gnurdux | i was 12 when i joined the forum tho :) |
| 21:26.54 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, so you lied to me? |
| 21:26.59 | ruskie | ahh some us specific thing |
| 21:27.00 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, probably |
| 21:27.01 | Mr_Molez | uhoh |
| 21:27.06 | *** part/#bzflag stjepan (n=stjepan@83-131-2-118.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 21:27.10 | Gnurdux | that was like 1.5 years ago |
| 21:27.22 | JeffM2501 | so techincaly I can delete your account then because you didn't agree to the terms |
| 21:27.25 | Gnurdux | i might have been 13 |
| 21:27.25 | JeffM2501 | ok, one sec |
| 21:27.27 | Mr_Molez | hehehhe |
| 21:27.28 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, !!! |
| 21:27.35 | JeffM2501 | what? |
| 21:27.36 | Gnurdux | ill check the date, i mightve been 13.. |
| 21:27.37 | JeffM2501 | you didn't read it |
| 21:27.39 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: see where your big mouth gets you ;) |
| 21:27.50 | JeffM2501 | you lie, you pay the price |
| 21:27.50 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, i read it, i just lied |
| 21:27.53 | JeffM2501 | welcome to the read world |
| 21:28.04 | JeffM2501 | you put us in LEGAL jerpardy |
| 21:28.07 | Gnurdux | i shouldnt have admitted it |
| 21:28.09 | JeffM2501 | that is not cool |
| 21:28.21 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, no i did not, you didnt know, so you werent at fault |
| 21:28.30 | JeffM2501 | dosn't work that way |
| 21:28.39 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, how do i check what date i joined? |
| 21:28.40 | JeffM2501 | it's just easyer to defend if we didn't know |
| 21:28.47 | JeffM2501 | but it woudl be up to US to prove we didn't know |
| 21:28.54 | JeffM2501 | your parents could have sued us |
| 21:28.56 | JeffM2501 | you bastard |
| 21:28.59 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: he knows now. there's a standard seven-year statute of limitations |
| 21:29.11 | DTRemenak | so if we find out before seven years is up, we're still liable |
| 21:29.30 | Gnurdux | can i check what date i joined? |
| 21:29.50 | Gnurdux | i mightve been 13 |
| 21:29.57 | pyr02k1[a] | well, looks like gnu is deleted |
| 21:29.58 | pyr02k1[a] | :) |
| 21:29.58 | ruskie | should state in the profile or on some post |
| 21:30.11 | JeffM2501 | after all the crap you put us thru, and all the help we give you, you freaking LIE to us |
| 21:30.12 | Gnurdux | i know i was 12 when i first heard of it, but i dunno about when i actually joined forum |
| 21:30.21 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, AFTER? lol |
| 21:31.01 | pyr02k1[a] | after and during? |
| 21:31.31 | Gnurdux | mmm i was 13 my first post certainly |
| 21:31.57 | Gnurdux | but i cant find joindate so im just gonna assume it was after my 13th b-day |
| 21:32.04 | JeffM2501 | first post dosn't matter |
| 21:32.25 | Mr_Molez | Joined: 16 Jun 2005 |
| 21:32.30 | Gnurdux | oh ok |
| 21:32.35 | Gnurdux | then i was 13 |
| 21:32.37 | JeffM2501 | when is your birthday |
| 21:32.42 | Gnurdux | birthday is 3/25 |
| 21:32.46 | JeffM2501 | your probably lieing again, but ok |
| 21:32.52 | JeffM2501 | so much for trusting you |
| 21:32.59 | pyr02k1[a] | tut tut lil man |
| 21:33.02 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 21:33.13 | Gnurdux | problem is i cant tell if your serious or not |
| 21:33.14 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: and year ? |
| 21:33.18 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, 1992 |
| 21:33.30 | pyr02k1[a] | we need a copy of your id now, sorry :P |
| 21:33.34 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 21:33.43 | JeffM2501 | actualy it's not funny at all |
| 21:33.46 | pyr02k1[a] | social too, so i can steal your identity in 4 years |
| 21:33.49 | JeffM2501 | so don't trivialise it |
| 21:33.59 | Gnurdux | ok, but i really was 13 |
| 21:35.14 | JeffM2501 | I REALY want to make it 16+ |
| 21:36.02 | Birdie | 16+ is high |
| 21:36.02 | ruskie | that would block out atleast 3 viper cops |
| 21:36.02 | ruskie | erm 2 |
| 21:36.02 | JeffM2501 | and that is a bad thing ;) |
| 21:36.07 | ruskie | yeah... |
| 21:36.07 | JeffM2501 | it would also remove about 150 servers ;) |
| 21:36.07 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I was 15 ;) |
| 21:36.11 | Mr_Molez | make it 16 !! |
| 21:36.20 | Birdie | i wasnt 18 either |
| 21:36.28 | JeffM2501 | ok 16 or an IQ test |
| 21:36.29 | Birdie | i was 16 when i joined i think |
| 21:36.32 | Gnurdux | there are plenty of mature 14, 15 year olds, even if i'm not one of them |
| 21:36.33 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 21:36.35 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, IQ test :P |
| 21:36.40 | Birdie | or 17 |
| 21:36.44 | ruskie | IQ test won't show anything |
| 21:36.50 | Birdie | or 16 AND IQ test:) |
| 21:36.57 | DTRemenak | ~birdie++ |
| 21:36.58 | Gnurdux | IQ tests are dumb, but I'd probably do well on them |
| 21:37.36 | ruskie | only have an ID |
| 21:37.37 | DTRemenak | actually I'm more in favor of asking questions about things that require research on the forums to find out :) |
| 21:37.40 | ruskie | no passport |
| 21:37.48 | DTRemenak | so we know you can read before you're allowed to post |
| 21:38.12 | DTRemenak | "if you are banned, what is the proper way to contest your ban?" |
| 21:38.26 | ruskie | "sit it out" |
| 21:38.27 | DTRemenak | "if you want to host a server, where would you go to find out how?" |
| 21:38.36 | Birdie | yea certainly that |
| 21:38.37 | ruskie | "documentation" |
| 21:38.45 | Birdie | how many people are there "i want to make a server, what do i have to do":) |
| 21:38.47 | DTRemenak | ruskie qualifies :) |
| 21:39.13 | DTRemenak | "what is the proper way to attain admin status on a server?" |
| 21:39.22 | L4m3r | LOL] |
| 21:39.22 | Gnurdux | "by not asking for it" |
| 21:39.24 | ruskie | "don't ask" |
| 21:39.38 | DTRemenak | yup, ruskie qualifies, he can post :) |
| 21:40.04 | ToughShooter | Asking is good. Yugi made it that way on a server |
| 21:40.07 | Mr_Molez | so you get admin status if you dont ask, cool |
| 21:40.18 | L4m3r | "If a rooster lays an egg on a crown roof, will it roll down the left or the right side?" |
| 21:40.18 | ruskie | well a lot more involved about it |
| 21:40.31 | ruskie | but if you ask there's almost no chance |
| 21:40.41 | L4m3r | Almost? |
| 21:40.59 | L4m3r | try, like, "come back when you get hit by lightening" |
| 21:41.05 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:41.07 | ruskie | naahh |
| 21:41.14 | ruskie | one can ask as a n00b |
| 21:41.26 | ruskie | but later turns out to be a great fair player with a level head... |
| 21:41.49 | L4m3r | great fair players with level heads usually have enough tact to not ask |
| 21:41.57 | L4m3r | even as newbs |
| 21:42.06 | ruskie | and that likes the game enough to help contorl it even without any special privs |
| 21:42.19 | L4m3r | not necessarily |
| 21:42.28 | JeffM2501 | all I did was say "I can host it" |
| 21:43.03 | L4m3r | there are some people who are good in that respect, who help keep people peaceful without an @ |
| 21:43.16 | L4m3r | but there are just as many "backseat admins" who just whine |
| 21:44.31 | inchworm | L4m3r: neither, the hen is faceing front back with respect to the roof ridge (see chicken anatomy) |
| 21:45.06 | JeffM2501 | rosters don't lay eggs ;) |
| 21:45.17 | L4m3r | neither do roosters :P |
| 21:45.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:45.30 | inchworm | well there goes reading the history too fast... |
| 21:45.34 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:46.16 | L4m3r | don't feel bad, it's probably the oldest trick question in the book and everyone falls for it once |
| 21:46.40 | ruskie | can't even type properly |
| 21:47.34 | Gnurdux | oh shit... |
| 21:47.49 | Mr_Molez | excuse me !! ? |
| 21:48.08 | L4m3r | why the hell are you messing with met's server? |
| 21:48.48 | ruskie | just a warning on viper... |
| 21:49.05 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, for his league |
| 21:49.17 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501 doesn't like swearing tho |
| 21:49.31 | DTRemenak | L4m3r: nevertheless, people should watch their mouths here |
| 21:49.37 | DTRemenak | that includes you, Gnurdux |
| 21:50.04 | Gnurdux | darn.... it seems the current CVS of webleague is borked |
| 21:50.05 | L4m3r | yes yes. But it's more like "network television" clean, not "family server nazi" clean |
| 21:50.26 | ruskie | erm |
| 21:50.48 | DTRemenak | nazi tactics don't work well on an inherently anarchist medium like IRC, L4m3r :) |
| 21:50.52 | ruskie | last time I checked tv had more foul language than irc or any other medium |
| 21:51.05 | DTRemenak | ruskie: depends which irc channels you hang out in ;) |
| 21:51.23 | DTRemenak | and which tv channels you watch, I suppose |
| 21:51.26 | ruskie | I don't mind stuff like WTH WTF etc... not really annoying... |
| 21:51.28 | Gnurdux | i think the whole league needs to be remade ALL over again |
| 21:51.52 | JeffM2501 | and Gnurdux don't say what I like or dislike |
| 21:51.55 | JeffM2501 | I curse all the time |
| 21:51.55 | Gnurdux | the new CVS is WAAY too borked |
| 21:52.00 | JeffM2501 | it's just not what is allowed here |
| 21:52.02 | Gnurdux | but not on #bzflag |
| 21:52.03 | Gnurdux | yea |
| 21:52.14 | L4m3r | Gnurdux: as the saying goes, "you're all over it" |
| 21:52.14 | ruskie | and it's always amusing to see what ppl come up with to bypass the foul language detectors |
| 21:52.17 | L4m3r | have fun :P |
| 21:52.46 | DTRemenak | ruskie: there's no substitute for human admins :) |
| 21:53.05 | Gnurdux | wheres a meteorite, anyone seen him today? |
| 21:53.24 | ruskie | probably hiding from you |
| 21:53.28 | Gnurdux | its all totally screwed |
| 21:53.41 | L4m3r | I'm not one to make assumptions, but I would guess that he's in church today. |
| 21:53.49 | lan56 | ~seen A_Meteorite |
| 21:53.51 | ibot | a_meteorite <n=A_Meteor@adsl-75-0-66-198.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel ##essy, 13h 59m 35s ago, saying: 'heh'. |
| 21:53.51 | Gnurdux | heh not the whole day |
| 21:54.05 | Gnurdux | i dunno what timezone he's in |
| 21:54.16 | inchworm | easter or central US i think |
| 21:54.22 | inchworm | s/eastern |
| 21:54.23 | Gnurdux | whats central? |
| 21:54.31 | JeffM2501 | that time is from the bot |
| 21:54.31 | Gnurdux | how many hours away from eastern |
| 21:54.32 | inchworm | -6 GMT i think |
| 21:54.33 | JeffM2501 | not his time |
| 21:54.38 | L4m3r | when it says "n hours ago" does it really matter? lol |
| 21:54.40 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, yea i know |
| 21:55.17 | Gnurdux | its just he was using CVS webleague which is broken |
| 21:56.01 | JeffM2501 | then send him a PM and be done with it |
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| 21:57.54 | DTRemenak | Mr_Molez: perhaps so that other people know that they have? |
| 21:58.28 | Mr_Molez | well most people get a bright pink thing or an audible nose :P pretty hard not to notice :P |
| 21:58.31 | Admirarch | I think breaking webleague CVS is the only strike we can make against people going and making yet another league |
| 21:58.54 | Mr_Molez | Admirarch: yeh ! |
| 21:59.05 | blast007 | Mr_Molez: an audible nose :) |
| 21:59.11 | Mr_Molez | a league per person is always good :p |
| 21:59.14 | Mr_Molez | oops |
| 21:59.16 | Mr_Molez | noise* :) |
| 21:59.31 | Admirarch | Mr_Molez: Or maybe two |
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| 22:02.15 | Mr_Molez | don't even know why i said audible noise, they both mean the same thing :P |
| 22:02.29 | DTRemenak | there can be inaudible noises |
| 22:02.39 | Mr_Molez | good point |
| 22:02.42 | DTRemenak | just because you can't hear it doesn't mean I can't, or that your dog can't. |
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| 22:04.32 | Gnurdux | one might say that if one can hear that there is a sound, but cant tell what it is, its an inaudible noise |
| 22:06.42 | blast007 | if a tree falls down in the forest, can anyone hear it scream? |
| 22:07.05 | lan56 | do trees scream like humans do? |
| 22:07.12 | DTRemenak | blast007: depends whether there were any ents in the forest, I suppose |
| 22:07.17 | blast007 | hehe |
| 22:08.11 | Mr_Molez | ~windows |
| 22:08.15 | ibot | it has been said that windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 22:08.21 | DTRemenak | lan56: do humans scream like trees do? |
| 22:08.42 | lan56 | good question |
| 22:09.52 | lan56 | then the answer must be yes :) |
| 22:10.49 | DTRemenak | that only follows if one assumes that I am human |
| 22:11.07 | DTRemenak | and that at least one other human also screams like a tree |
| 22:11.08 | sicshooter | that is a great quote re/ windows.....does anyone know where that quote originated? |
| 22:11.25 | lan56 | you could be a bot |
| 22:11.29 | lan56 | with advanced AI |
| 22:11.34 | Gnurdux | ah wait its not any more borked than non-cvs is :\ |
| 22:12.03 | DTRemenak | ~factinfo windows |
| 22:12.03 | ibot | windows -- last modified at Sun Feb 12 15:12:02 2006 by dererk!n=Elive_@unaffiliated/dererk; it has been requested 26 times, last by Mr_Molez, 3m 48s ago. |
| 22:12.56 | sicshooter | I really need to learn more about bots and irc in general....I'm still an irc n00b |
| 22:13.32 | DTRemenak | it doesn't say who it was created by though |
| 22:13.57 | sicshooter | My experience with irc is pretty much limited to asking linux questions to become M$ free |
| 22:14.06 | lan56 | irc isn't hard, it is a way to communicate instantly with however many people are in the channel at the time |
| 22:14.09 | lan56 | however theres more |
| 22:14.38 | *** join/#bzflag A_Meteorite (n=A_Meteor@adsl-75-15-144-195.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:14.45 | Gnurdux | hi A_Meteorite |
| 22:14.48 | sicshooter | A_Meteorite: Good morning |
| 22:14.48 | DTRemenak | sicshooter: so, are you ms-free yet? :) |
| 22:14.55 | Gnurdux | a lot of stuff needs fixing in the leaguesite |
| 22:15.02 | sicshooter | Yes...I've been ms free for about 2 1/2 years now |
| 22:15.02 | A_Meteorite | hey |
| 22:15.02 | Gnurdux | first things first can you putup a phpmyadmin? |
| 22:15.09 | DTRemenak | sweet |
| 22:15.11 | A_Meteorite | I just finally got home from swap meet |
| 22:15.16 | Gnurdux | ah ok |
| 22:15.29 | A_Meteorite | phpMyAdmin? ick... |
| 22:15.32 | A_Meteorite | what's wrong? |
| 22:15.36 | sicshooter | A_Meteorite: I am still unable to log onto boxy wars...same ban message as before... |
| 22:15.46 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: that's weird... hold on |
| 22:15.48 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, well first of all some of the built in stuff is broken i think |
| 22:15.56 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: elaborate :) |
| 22:15.58 | DTRemenak | hasn't been 24 hours yet sicshooter :) |
| 22:16.15 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, if oyu use the built in editor for rules, faq, etc, quotes inside it bork everything |
| 22:16.22 | A_Meteorite | yes, that's normal |
| 22:16.28 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:16.30 | A_Meteorite | you need to add backslashes in front of them ( \ ) |
| 22:16.35 | Gnurdux | ah' |
| 22:16.47 | DTRemenak | you don't have a quote-escaping function? |
| 22:16.48 | A_Meteorite | quite annoying I wish that was fixed in the php :) |
| 22:16.49 | Gnurdux | second of all we need to delete that match and set scores back to 0 |
| 22:16.55 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, ill fix it lol |
| 22:17.43 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, just putup a phpmyadmin |
| 22:17.44 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: ahh, I forgot to remove the ID ban, so sorry |
| 22:17.49 | Gnurdux | that match needs to be deleted |
| 22:18.03 | Gnurdux | and the scores reset, but you cant delete a match where one of the teams is gone |
| 22:18.16 | Gnurdux | third of all autoreport doesnt update number of matches, because thats been changed in the CVS |
| 22:18.23 | Gnurdux | other than that its OK |
| 22:18.33 | Gnurdux | can you make a phpmyadmin anyway? |
| 22:18.39 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: done |
| 22:18.59 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: can you update autoreport? |
| 22:19.07 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, yes, i can |
| 22:19.11 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: directly modifying the database is almost always the wrong way to do things |
| 22:19.14 | Gnurdux | but first i wanna delete the old matches |
| 22:19.28 | A_Meteorite | I don't want to mess anything up after I finally got it to work ;) |
| 22:19.33 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, not in this case, the leaguesite wont let us delete the match, because one of the teams in it got deleted |
| 22:19.37 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, i wont i promise |
| 22:19.44 | DTRemenak | Gnurdux: then the site should be fixed... |
| 22:19.46 | A_Meteorite | can I first upgrade mysql? |
| 22:19.47 | Gnurdux | ill just delete that match and fix autoreport and FAQ |
| 22:19.50 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, hmmm |
| 22:19.56 | A_Meteorite | mysql 3 really sucks |
| 22:20.00 | A_Meteorite | :P |
| 22:20.01 | DTRemenak | heh, 3 |
| 22:20.03 | Gnurdux | lets get it working first |
| 22:20.16 | A_Meteorite | is it even possible to upgrade it using the same database...? |
| 22:20.31 | sicshooter | Hmmm...still banned |
| 22:20.39 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: aiiieee |
| 22:20.57 | A_Meteorite | you got to be kidding, I grepped my logs for you.... |
| 22:21.00 | A_Meteorite | I'll check your IP |
| 22:21.20 | sicshooter | My router went down last night so my ip is likely changed since the ban...I don't know if that plays a part in it |
| 22:22.10 | A_Meteorite | hmmm |
| 22:22.18 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, i dunno |
| 22:22.18 | A_Meteorite | you shouldn't be banned still, hold on |
| 22:22.25 | Gnurdux | you can always export the old database and import it |
| 22:22.57 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, me is fixing the faq edit |
| 22:23.04 | A_Meteorite | sicshooter: try again |
| 22:23.13 | A_Meteorite | you are nowhere in my banfile, and your IP isn't either |
| 22:23.18 | A_Meteorite | and I did a /reload |
| 22:23.19 | *** part/#bzflag SpazzyMcGee (n=SpazzyMc@fordend.demon.co.uk) |
| 22:23.39 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: and I'll see about upgrading |
| 22:23.48 | sicshooter | still banned |
| 22:23.54 | A_Meteorite | what's the reason? |
| 22:24.00 | A_Meteorite | exact caps please |
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| 22:24.16 | A_Meteorite | just the first few words is enough |
| 22:24.22 | sicshooter | "foul language not tolerated here" by Rio_Dj_Narrow |
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| 22:24.55 | A_Meteorite | not there |
| 22:25.11 | A_Meteorite | maybe my /reload isn't working right |
| 22:25.24 | A_Meteorite | hold on again :) |
| 22:25.26 | sicshooter | I don't know anything about the protocol used by bz servers...is it possible that it has to do with my cache? |
| 22:25.34 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, fixed the FAQ edit! |
| 22:25.36 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 22:25.40 | sicshooter | k |
| 22:26.33 | A_Meteorite | ok, my /reload wasn't doing anything for id bans |
| 22:26.36 | A_Meteorite | try again :) |
| 22:27.14 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, can you pleease put up a phpmyadmin |
| 22:27.29 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: can I first please upgrade mysql? :P |
| 22:27.35 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, hmmm |
| 22:27.37 | sicshooter | A_Meteorite: That worked...thank you very much :) |
| 22:27.46 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, well first i got some stuff to fix |
| 22:27.58 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, you should export the database first |
| 22:28.15 | A_Meteorite | hmmm... I wonder how to export everything /me heads to #mysql |
| 22:28.24 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, just export the database |
| 22:28.31 | Gnurdux | you can do it easily with phpmyadmin |
| 22:28.31 | A_Meteorite | I've never done that before |
| 22:28.44 | A_Meteorite | alright I'll go breakdown and get phpmyadmin |
| 22:28.48 | Gnurdux | you just go to database and click export |
| 22:28.56 | Gnurdux | and gimme the link to it! |
| 22:29.05 | sicshooter | A_Meteorite: I will apologize to Rio_Dj_Narrow as soon as I see him and you will have no further troubles from me |
| 22:29.06 | A_Meteorite | I need to export every mysql database :) |
| 22:29.16 | A_Meteorite | on the whole system |
| 22:29.29 | A_Meteorite | or make another server |
| 22:29.44 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: maybe we should take this to PMs? |
| 22:29.51 | A_Meteorite | since JeffM2501 is probably about ready to blow ;) |
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| 22:41.27 | spldart | >DTR (I think it was you I talked about bumpheight) I got my base and the floor of my .obj within .01 in height and I can walk across with bumpheight set as normal... Tests good.. do you, or anyone, forsee any problems I ahven't ? |
| 22:44.04 | L4m3r | spldart, I've done the same thing and had no issues |
| 22:44.10 | L4m3r | BUT |
| 22:44.42 | L4m3r | if you're using a very thin base that's resting on top of something, from a distance the textures will glitch and mix with each other |
| 22:45.56 | spldart | I noticed that if I went less than what I'm at now then yeah... the textures do a wierd geometric dance |
| 22:47.14 | spldart | now to figure out flag spawn zones |
| 22:48.45 | spldart | AHA! flag zones are easy :) |
| 22:48.54 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:49.11 | spldart | never done some of this before :( |
| 22:49.23 | spldart | My air hockey table map never got finished heh |
| 22:49.34 | spldart | THIS ONE IS |
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| 23:23.17 | A_Meteorite | Mr_Molez: ping |
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| 23:28.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v menotume] by ChanServ |
| 23:34.42 | spldart | A flag zone doesn't have to be allocated to a team right? I can do Zone, Position, Size, Rotation, Flag, End and be done? |
| 23:35.04 | L4m3r | of course |
| 23:35.11 | spldart | sweet |
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| 23:42.53 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: sup |
