| 00:09.01 | CIA-6 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10projectTitan/project.titan/data/ (23 files in 3 dirs): flatland test mission with waterblock, and jill variant skins |
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| 00:57.17 | I_Died_Once | Place your bets |
| 00:57.22 | I_Died_Once | MoFo vs OL |
| 00:57.38 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 00:57.55 | Mr_Molez | ol obviously ;) |
| 01:05.54 | I_Died_Once | Serious question: JeffM2501 or whoever - would it be possible to get a new, private forum on bzbb for the MoFo League? (to be kept seperate from our admin discussion forum) |
| 01:06.06 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 01:06.19 | JeffM2501 | what group? |
| 01:06.24 | I_Died_Once | hold tight |
| 01:08.34 | I_Died_Once | Is there a "mofo.league" group? |
| 01:09.01 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:09.08 | I_Died_Once | who's the owner? |
| 01:09.11 | I_Died_Once | delusion? |
| 01:09.44 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:10.05 | L4m3r | honestly, league against league sounds kind of silly |
| 01:10.31 | L4m3r | I mean, if it was the "head crew" of both leagues it would make more sense |
| 01:10.35 | I_Died_Once | prolly that one, but I'll get back to ya |
| 01:10.46 | I_Died_Once | thats what it'll likely be, the head crew |
| 01:10.50 | L4m3r | but is anyone else running the league besides you and DB, molez? |
| 01:10.54 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: just a little harmless fun :P |
| 01:11.27 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: running as in what ? |
| 01:11.35 | I_Died_Once | we imght do try-outs or something, not sure |
| 01:11.55 | L4m3r | well, all of the mofo "crew" has a hand in operating the league |
| 01:12.00 | I_Died_Once | we're gonna roll up the OpenLeague flag and smoke it |
| 01:12.14 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: atm its pretty much me brad pyr0 and gnurdux thats doing things |
| 01:12.44 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, lol me is just programming |
| 01:12.51 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: still counts ;) |
| 01:13.01 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 01:14.03 | L4m3r | who do you think does most of the (non-web) programming for mofo? :P |
| 01:14.51 | L4m3r | hehehe |
| 01:14.58 | L4m3r | that was more for gnu, he would know :P |
| 01:15.23 | Mr_Molez | he being a traitor again :P |
| 01:16.02 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: u do the coding ? |
| 01:16.07 | L4m3r | yup |
| 01:16.10 | Mr_Molez | :D |
| 01:16.15 | L4m3r | not a whole lot, but when it's needed |
| 01:16.22 | L4m3r | RPG does most of the web stuff |
| 01:16.30 | JeffM2501 | anyone know max123? |
| 01:17.47 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, umm duhyou do it |
| 01:18.05 | Gnurdux | oh whoops |
| 01:18.11 | I_Died_Once | I've seen on the server a couple of times |
| 01:18.12 | L4m3r | lol |
| 01:18.13 | Gnurdux | yeah L4m3r makes cool stuff |
| 01:18.28 | I_Died_Once | but I dont know him well or anything |
| 01:21.00 | JeffM2501 | says he's 10, but got no COPPA :( |
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| 16:11.37 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: uhoh |
| 16:12.05 | JeffM2501 | ? |
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| 16:34.42 | JeffM2501 | hey blast007 or menotume how hard would it be to show a users bzid on the user admin page for them? |
| 16:35.45 | blast007 | a line of code probably ;) |
| 16:35.46 | JeffM2501 | ether that or a profile search on the memberlist |
| 16:36.03 | JeffM2501 | we use the bbid for bans now |
| 16:36.08 | JeffM2501 | but there is no easy way to find them |
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| 17:07.16 | [NP]Tangent | man |
| 17:07.23 | [NP]Tangent | I can't wait until bzanywhere comes out |
| 17:07.42 | [NP]Tangent | it would actually be a good way to share the game |
| 17:07.56 | [NP]Tangent | you could go and show it to your friends first without them having to isntall it |
| 17:07.59 | [NP]Tangent | then if they like it |
| 17:08.09 | [NP]Tangent | they can download it |
| 17:09.56 | trepan | JeffM2501: i'll take a stab at a bzid_search.php script (or similar bzfls.php mod), once I get setup on bzflag.bz |
| 17:09.57 | AlexandrTheGreat | Jeff? |
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| 17:10.56 | JeffM2501 | AlexandrTheGreat, ? |
| 17:10.59 | AlexandrTheGreat | JeffM2501we use the bbid for bans now |
| 17:11.00 | AlexandrTheGreat | JeffM2501but there is no easy way to find them |
| 17:11.05 | AlexandrTheGreat | there are 2 ways |
| 17:11.16 | AlexandrTheGreat | on the server, if they are playing you can /idlist them |
| 17:11.20 | AlexandrTheGreat | and.. |
| 17:11.25 | AlexandrTheGreat | in bzbb members |
| 17:11.34 | trepan | who's bzid is 12345? |
| 17:11.34 | AlexandrTheGreat | just roll your mouse over their name |
| 17:11.41 | AlexandrTheGreat | and it appears in the bottom of the window |
| 17:11.52 | trepan | time's up... |
| 17:11.55 | trepan | not easy enough |
| 17:12.00 | AlexandrTheGreat | oh |
| 17:12.32 | AlexandrTheGreat | brad told me this, btw..i can't figure that out |
| 17:12.41 | JeffM2501 | AlexandrTheGreat, I meant a way to search them on the boards, I know how we can get them now |
| 17:13.05 | AlexandrTheGreat | is the member list the boards? |
| 17:13.09 | AlexandrTheGreat | oh..i see |
| 17:13.18 | AlexandrTheGreat | no, no formal search |
| 17:13.44 | AlexandrTheGreat | nevermind :) |
| 17:13.49 | JeffM2501 | bingo ;) |
| 17:13.55 | JeffM2501 | we do know what we are talking about |
| 17:14.19 | AlexandrTheGreat | my goal is to one day come up with something i know that you don't :P |
| 17:14.36 | trepan | he prolly doesn't know your middle name |
| 17:14.40 | AlexandrTheGreat | no today tho |
| 17:14.40 | AlexandrTheGreat | heh |
| 17:14.57 | AlexandrTheGreat | with my luck, it's in my profile |
| 17:15.43 | JeffM2501 | hell I don't know my middle name |
| 17:16.22 | AlexandrTheGreat | it's M |
| 17:16.40 | orange | hehe |
| 17:16.45 | uso_w | isn't that the id: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12345 ? |
| 17:17.09 | trepan | uso_w: yup :) |
| 17:17.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's the only way to do it now |
| 17:17.21 | JeffM2501 | it's harder to go from name to ID |
| 17:19.08 | uso_w | is there at all a similar way to access by name? |
| 17:19.19 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:19.30 | JeffM2501 | hence why it needs a search |
| 17:19.36 | uso_w | would be more interesting ;) |
| 17:19.39 | uso_w | yes |
| 17:19.47 | JeffM2501 | to get it by name I have to go thru the memberlist alphabeticaly |
| 17:19.51 | JeffM2501 | or find a post they posted |
| 17:20.03 | L4m3r | isn't there a member search page hidden somewhere? |
| 17:20.20 | uso_w | yup, guessing number ranges and approximate ... |
| 17:20.40 | JeffM2501 | there may be for admins |
| 17:20.43 | JeffM2501 | meno did something |
| 17:20.48 | JeffM2501 | for searched by e-mail |
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| 17:33.02 | ToughShooter | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/74947 (moving bzflag to another position while being windowed, then switching back to bz and maximing the window) |
| 17:34.08 | ToughShooter | Looks like BZFLag's code is not moving save :( |
| 17:34.55 | JeffM2501 | isnt' that all the job of SDL? |
| 17:35.32 | [NP]Tangent | yeah, I dn't think it should be te game's job to remember where you put it |
| 17:35.39 | Mr_Molez | ~dict lengendary |
| 17:35.44 | Mr_Molez | ~dict legendary |
| 17:36.00 | ToughShooter | Not sure what the function is doing, if it is graphics then SDL has a bug there |
| 17:36.13 | JeffM2501 | so debug it and fix it ;) |
| 17:36.36 | ToughShooter | I found another bug that looks more interesting.. |
| 17:36.55 | ToughShooter | looks like normals from bases are not always correct |
| 17:37.42 | [NP]Tangent | normal whats? |
| 17:38.40 | JeffM2501 | the normals |
| 17:41.15 | [NP]Tangent | normal whats!? |
| 17:41.18 | [NP]Tangent | normal shots? |
| 17:41.26 | [NP]Tangent | normal players (a rarity, I know)? |
| 17:41.27 | purple_cow | normals! |
| 17:41.28 | JeffM2501 | surface normals |
| 17:41.35 | [NP]Tangent | thank you |
| 17:41.42 | JeffM2501 | they are just called "NORMALS" |
| 17:41.47 | [NP]Tangent | it makes sense now |
| 17:42.09 | JeffM2501 | and it didn't before |
| 17:42.11 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 17:43.26 | [NP]Tangent | just didn't understand wtf "normals" meant |
| 17:43.39 | trepan | and now you do? |
| 17:46.09 | [NP]Tangent | not entirely |
| 17:46.10 | [NP]Tangent | but more |
| 17:46.34 | JeffM2501 | if you didn't know anything about what he was talking about? why even bother commenting on it? |
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| 17:47.12 | [NP]Tangent | no need to get upset, man :( |
| 17:47.21 | [NP]Tangent | just curious |
| 17:49.19 | JeffM2501 | best to go read up on 3d math for that |
| 17:49.32 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
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| 17:56.02 | spldart | I like the "really quit" addition to the menu. Profesional |
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| 18:01.24 | ToughShooter | Strange effect: http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7734/bzfi01164sp.jpg |
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| 18:07.50 | trepan | ToughShooter: what effect? |
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| 18:12.25 | ToughShooter | trepan: look at the bullets.. |
| 18:12.29 | ToughShooter | I have no moved |
| 18:12.34 | ToughShooter | s/no/not |
| 18:16.11 | trepan | ToughShooter: yup, there appear to be 3 uncolored shots, with either leading or lagging lines |
| 18:19.56 | Admirarch | (I've just failed to produce such an effect) |
| 18:20.47 | ToughShooter | trepan: The position they were fired from was the same for all 3. They change direction when hitting the base via a rico over the pyramid (you need a very exact angle to reproduce). Map is HIX2. |
| 18:21.14 | ToughShooter | Also the people on the base get killed at the points where the bullets change direction |
| 18:21.28 | ToughShooter | Where are the normals computed? |
| 18:22.07 | TheRedBaron | ToughShooter: you put a backspin on the bullet? |
| 18:22.10 | ToughShooter | Admirarch: You need patience and try a lot of angles on HIX 2 |
| 18:22.17 | ToughShooter | backspin? |
| 18:22.34 | ToughShooter | There are no spins, AFAIK, only speed |
| 18:22.50 | TheRedBaron | yes, I know, ment it as a joke |
| 18:22.54 | TheRedBaron | sorry :) |
| 18:23.09 | ToughShooter | I stood still while firing all shots |
| 18:23.09 | Chestal | the libcurl issue is still unsolved? |
| 18:24.25 | trepan | Chestal: afaik |
| 18:25.07 | Chestal | guess I would have to get libcurl sources to really debug it. I also guess that I am too lazy |
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| 19:42.01 | trepan | ToughShooter: BaseBuilding::get3DNormal(): 0.000002 vs. 0.000001 (fabs(p[2] - pos[2]) vs. Epsilon) |
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| 19:42.24 | trepan | ToughShooter: it's sad old code, a pathetic way to do the test... |
| 19:43.00 | trepan | but in its defense, works for a lot of cases :) |
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| 19:44.44 | ToughShooter | Best is simple code that works always and fast but that's often hard (or impossible in regard to needed time/space) to achieve :/ |
| 19:45.17 | ToughShooter | I've looked TV, planned to look at it tomorrow.. |
| 19:46.39 | JeffM2501 | is it just me or does that sound like StarTreck speak? |
| 19:47.20 | ToughShooter | huh? |
| 19:48.09 | JeffM2501 | just the way you wrote it |
| 19:48.16 | trepan | good, cheap, fast: pick two |
| 19:48.16 | JeffM2501 | and the use of spacetime ;) |
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| 19:49.02 | ToughShooter | Oh well, it wasn't mean that way ;) |
| 19:49.43 | JeffM2501 | did you try to invert the polarity? |
| 19:49.59 | JeffM2501 | or reconfigure the interlock? |
| 19:50.25 | trepan | I can't take anymore, captain |
| 19:50.35 | JeffM2501 | I often find that bypassing the primary phase array can help as well ;) |
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| 20:20.12 | Gnurdux | Everyone: {janis}'s league is a lame copy of Mr_Molez 's. Just thought your should know before you consider joining it :S He's been asking Molez and I for our config and plugins, which are basically useful only for a very similar type of thing, and he is an OL member. |
| 20:21.33 | [NP]Tangent | hm |
| 20:21.36 | A_Meteorite | um |
| 20:21.41 | [NP]Tangent | something very weird just happened |
| 20:21.44 | A_Meteorite | we really don't need anymore leagues |
| 20:21.49 | Gnurdux | exactly |
| 20:22.12 | [NP]Tangent | I got on the pythonian server, and right away was kicked for being idle too long |
| 20:22.15 | A_Meteorite | if it wasn't for promising about action tanks I would dump it |
| 20:22.19 | A_Meteorite | but it's quite inactive |
| 20:22.29 | [NP]Tangent | then I reconnected, and apparently I had a rabbit tank on other players' screen |
| 20:22.32 | Gnurdux | the OL is somewhat unique, at least.. but his has NOTHING new and interesting, and will never have many of the advantages, like the sevre |
| 20:22.33 | Gnurdux | r |
| 20:22.44 | [NP]Tangent | now they all think I'm a cheater |
| 20:22.47 | [NP]Tangent | I don't know what happened |
| 20:22.58 | [NP]Tangent | everything looked right on my screen, it showed I was on the green team |
| 20:23.02 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, a cheater can't do that lol |
| 20:23.06 | A_Meteorite | [NP]Tangent: tell them clients can't do that |
| 20:23.09 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:23.11 | [NP]Tangent | I know |
| 20:23.15 | Gnurdux | thats done by server |
| 20:23.18 | [NP]Tangent | and I don't know enough about C++ to do that |
| 20:23.21 | A_Meteorite | the server does that, so it must be a cheating server |
| 20:23.22 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:23.27 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 20:23.27 | Gnurdux | heh :P |
| 20:23.34 | [NP]Tangent | dunno what happened |
| 20:23.37 | A_Meteorite | pythonian employs a modded server! *gasp* |
| 20:23.38 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 20:23.47 | [NP]Tangent | but I was apparently white on radar and in HUD |
| 20:23.55 | A_Meteorite | the server is cheating.. eek |
| 20:23.58 | Gnurdux | servers CAN cheat... blast007 made a server that makes everyone an autopilot rabbit upon joining, even though its CTF mode |
| 20:24.02 | A_Meteorite | ok, the joke must be old |
| 20:24.23 | Gnurdux | or maybe FFA, but not rabbit, and it prevents you from turning off autopilot aswell |
| 20:24.24 | [NP]Tangent | I'm using 2.0.4 |
| 20:24.37 | [NP]Tangent | not 2.0.8 because I had some libraries chane when I upgraded ubuntu |
| 20:24.47 | A_Meteorite | try 2.0.6 |
| 20:25.03 | A_Meteorite | 2.0.8 doesn't have any new client fixes (except for curl not closing connections, iirc) |
| 20:25.46 | A_Meteorite | hmm.. a cheating server... that would be fun to do things to the client :) |
| 20:25.59 | [NP]Tangent | I'll try to upgrade now, I guess |
| 20:26.06 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, you could put one up :D |
| 20:26.14 | [NP]Tangent | I had a bunch of people ask me how many lines of code I modified to make myself a rabbit tank |
| 20:26.19 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: 1vs1 autopilot |
| 20:26.21 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 20:26.22 | [NP]Tangent | no |
| 20:26.23 | [NP]Tangent | actually |
| 20:26.30 | [NP]Tangent | I showed up in userlist as observer for other players, too |
| 20:27.04 | A_Meteorite | it's usually a good idea to actually restart your server every two months |
| 20:27.08 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 20:28.05 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, what? |
| 20:28.17 | A_Meteorite | a 1vs1 autopilot cheating server |
| 20:28.21 | A_Meteorite | to see which Roger is best |
| 20:28.26 | JeffM2501 | please don't talk about cheat servers here |
| 20:28.33 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff |
| 20:28.34 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: um... |
| 20:28.35 | JeffM2501 | we don't condone cheating |
| 20:28.46 | [NP]Tangent | did you read about my interesting bug on Pythonian? |
| 20:28.52 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 20:28.57 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: it was a joke about the server messing up.. read up |
| 20:29.02 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 20:29.04 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:29.36 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, a cheating server is totally different than a cheating client -- it doesn't give people unfair advantages |
| 20:29.48 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, not true, it can easaly do that |
| 20:29.53 | A_Meteorite | well you COULD give certain clients flags |
| 20:30.01 | JeffM2501 | I could make a cheat server that make you always LOOSE ;) |
| 20:30.06 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, would you consider a server that makes everyone autopilot cheating? |
| 20:30.11 | JeffM2501 | server side endshot of your shots before they hit me ;) |
| 20:30.18 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, no, just lame |
| 20:30.22 | Gnurdux | heh |
| 20:30.38 | JeffM2501 | that is not a cheating server, it's just moded |
| 20:30.46 | JeffM2501 | techincaly servers with plugins are moded as well |
| 20:30.48 | Gnurdux | ok :D |
| 20:31.03 | Gnurdux | what about a FFA server with 4 teams and a rabbit? |
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| 20:31.17 | JeffM2501 | can you do that with out a client mod? |
| 20:31.24 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 20:31.29 | Gnurdux | it might crash clients |
| 20:31.40 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff, what about on a CTF server where you join as an observer tank |
| 20:31.41 | JeffM2501 | as long as the rules are the same for everyone it's not realy a 'cheat" |
| 20:31.44 | JeffM2501 | it's a mod |
| 20:31.47 | Gnurdux | i know some of the rabbit checks are only active in rabbit mode, so it probably wouldn't work |
| 20:31.52 | [NP]Tangent | :-\ |
| 20:31.52 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, that's called a bug |
| 20:31.56 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:31.59 | [NP]Tangent | figured as much |
| 20:32.05 | JeffM2501 | bug are bugs, they just need to be fixed |
| 20:32.23 | [NP]Tangent | but a bunch of people on that server think I cheat now |
| 20:32.39 | A_Meteorite | [NP]Tangent: tell me where and I can probably straighten that out :D |
| 20:32.46 | JeffM2501 | so tell the owner of the server via bzbb PM what happend |
| 20:32.50 | JeffM2501 | that's about all you can do |
| 20:33.15 | JeffM2501 | may things can look like cheating |
| 20:33.16 | JeffM2501 | lag |
| 20:33.17 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff, I don't know who owns the server |
| 20:33.17 | JeffM2501 | bugs |
| 20:33.29 | JeffM2501 | then there isn't much you can do ;) |
| 20:33.30 | JeffM2501 | just move on |
| 20:33.31 | A_Meteorite | [NP]Tangent: Harlin owns pythonian |
| 20:33.37 | [NP]Tangent | thanks, Meteor |
| 20:33.44 | JeffM2501 | or there ya go :) |
| 20:33.50 | A_Meteorite | don't tell him I sent you... he's scared of me ^_^ |
| 20:34.01 | JeffM2501 | why would anyone be scared of you |
| 20:34.06 | JeffM2501 | who's over 10? |
| 20:34.07 | [NP]Tangent | I'll blame Jeff |
| 20:34.10 | [NP]Tangent | ^_^ |
| 20:34.12 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 20:34.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's a good way to go |
| 20:34.28 | A_Meteorite | ~lart JeffM2501 |
| 20:34.29 | JeffM2501 | so much for helping you in the future |
| 20:34.41 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 20:36.17 | [NP]Tangent | um |
| 20:36.23 | [NP]Tangent | I have a bunch of automakes installed |
| 20:36.29 | [NP]Tangent | 1.4, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, and 1.9 |
| 20:36.40 | [NP]Tangent | yet autogen.sh says I don't have the right version |
| 20:36.42 | [NP]Tangent | :( |
| 20:36.56 | A_Meteorite | probably because it can't FIND the right version.. hehe |
| 20:37.22 | A_Meteorite | mine says that too, yet it compiles fine (unless yours is "different") |
| 20:37.49 | [NP]Tangent | mine should compile right |
| 20:37.52 | [NP]Tangent | but heh |
| 20:39.50 | [NP]Tangent | there we go |
| 20:42.34 | spldart | I had a problem where it couldn't find the right one as a meteorite said.. I just dumped the older versions and then it found what it needed.. a new one |
| 20:42.35 | [NP]Tangent | oh, now it doesn't want to build the client |
| 20:42.43 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:42.47 | [NP]Tangent | I just dumped the oldest one |
| 20:42.54 | [NP]Tangent | then it foiund 1.9 |
| 20:42.54 | [NP]Tangent | odd |
| 20:43.13 | spldart | it is but it happens... my deal was with 1.4 and 1.9 too if memory serves |
| 20:43.34 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 20:43.38 | [NP]Tangent | I'm missing gl.h |
| 20:43.41 | [NP]Tangent | so I can't compile |
| 20:43.48 | [NP]Tangent | but the .deb package for 2.0.4 worked |
| 20:43.54 | A_Meteorite | opengl-dev or something like that |
| 20:44.26 | spldart | sounds like your getting the same grief as my trying to build drm and dri for one of my machines :( |
| 20:45.02 | [NP]Tangent | don't see opengl-dev anywhere |
| 20:46.04 | [NP]Tangent | I have libgl1-mesa |
| 20:46.12 | [NP]Tangent | and liggl1-mesa-dev |
| 20:46.20 | [NP]Tangent | libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 20:46.49 | A_Meteorite | uh... no idea |
| 20:48.10 | [NP]Tangent | ah well |
| 20:48.15 | [NP]Tangent | my 2.0.4 works |
| 20:49.16 | [NP]Tangent | crap |
| 20:49.24 | [NP]Tangent | I don't remember if I start work at 4 or 5 tonight |
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| 20:50.29 | [NP]Tangent | wait |
| 20:50.31 | [NP]Tangent | it's 5 |
| 20:56.06 | spldart | hehe |
| 20:57.17 | spldart | been doing extensive tinkering with the hardware graphics accel and X11 configs on my test rig and COMPLETELY wrecked that install :-p... Gotta install that from scratch :( |
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| 21:10.48 | spldart | I'll join to add a registered player :) |
| 21:10.57 | spldart | Lemme look for pythonian |
| 21:13.06 | [NP]Tangent | I'm not on anymore |
| 21:13.09 | [NP]Tangent | and I think the guy left |
| 21:13.45 | A_Meteorite | just a fyi, I banned him at boxy war for teamkilling |
| 21:14.12 | A_Meteorite | qwertzs |
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| 21:19.22 | ichnichtdumich | uso_w: thx |
| 21:22.35 | [NP]Tangent | I was playing |
| 21:22.37 | [NP]Tangent | then he shot me |
| 21:22.44 | [NP]Tangent | and I"M like "why do you keep killing me?" |
| 21:22.46 | [NP]Tangent | and he's like |
| 21:22.52 | [NP]Tangent | "cuz I hate you, youa sshole" |
| 21:22.55 | [NP]Tangent | "I hate green assholes" |
| 21:22.58 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
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| 21:24.01 | [NP]Tangent | grrr |
| 21:24.03 | ichnichtdumich | uso_w: fixed |
| 21:24.07 | [NP]Tangent | why can't linux have the alt+xxxx codes |
| 21:24.21 | [NP]Tangent | Mr_Molez, te baņa |
| 21:24.25 | [NP]Tangent | :P |
| 21:24.29 | Mr_Molez | uhhuh |
| 21:25.04 | uso_w | ichnichtdumich: good :) |
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| 21:32.21 | spldart | python is kinda fun :) |
| 21:33.12 | spldart | did three captures cuz apparently I was the only one who didn't care about his score :-p |
| 21:37.31 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 21:37.34 | [NP]Tangent | I'm like that |
| 21:37.41 | [NP]Tangent | I hate score whores |
| 21:37.44 | [NP]Tangent | like in boxy |
| 21:37.48 | [NP]Tangent | I actually care about CTF |
| 21:38.05 | [NP]Tangent | so last night, I capped once, and then a bunch of teammates started yelling at me like "WTF YOU ASS" |
| 21:38.23 | [NP]Tangent | "sorry if I care about the team more than my score" |
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| 21:43.22 | spldart | LMAO |
| 21:44.03 | spldart | Was funny too.... my last cap they teamate said wait please... he wanted to line up with geno right at their base... I waited ;) |
| 21:47.42 | spldart | Heh... now that I think about it after the last capture they all clinged right next to their base :lol: |
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| 22:01.47 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 22:01.51 | [NP]Tangent | basecamping is stupid |
| 22:01.56 | [NP]Tangent | I hate basecampers |
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| 22:09.13 | [NP]Tangent | hey L4m3r |
| 22:09.15 | [NP]Tangent | I like your server |
| 22:09.17 | [NP]Tangent | The Compound |
| 22:09.19 | L4m3r | thanks. |
| 22:09.37 | [NP]Tangent | how hard was the give-flag-on-spawn plugin? |
| 22:09.57 | [NP]Tangent | I'm considering that on my server |
| 22:10.02 | [NP]Tangent | it's a very cool concept |
| 22:10.36 | L4m3r | it's easy... picking flags is the hardest part |
| 22:11.00 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 22:11.14 | [NP]Tangent | looking at the api docs it doesn't look like it would be too hard to make that plugin |
| 22:11.53 | [NP]Tangent | I'd like to make a CTF plugin that focuses the game on actually capping the flag |
| 22:12.00 | [NP]Tangent | no points for killing or being shot |
| 22:12.46 | [NP]Tangent | but if your team caps the flag, the player who capped gets a number of points equal to the number of players on the opposing team, and the rest of the team gets one point... the players on the other team all lose one point |
| 22:12.57 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: can't do that until 2.1 |
| 22:13.09 | [NP]Tangent | I know |
| 22:13.10 | [NP]Tangent | :( |
| 22:13.15 | [NP]Tangent | it says so in the docs |
| 22:13.20 | [NP]Tangent | that those functions are disabled |
| 22:13.56 | spldart | ooOOOoo I like that ctf concept NPTang |
| 22:14.13 | spldart | score only on caps and not kills |
| 22:14.22 | JeffM2501 | that's how most other FPSs do it |
| 22:14.43 | JeffM2501 | how many you kill is just an ancilary stat |
| 22:14.54 | JeffM2501 | some even give extra points for killing a flag runner |
| 22:15.04 | JeffM2501 | like defensive points |
| 22:15.05 | [NP]Tangent | that's a good idea too |
| 22:15.09 | spldart | yeah |
| 22:15.13 | JeffM2501 | go play UT CTF |
| 22:15.20 | Tanner | UT? |
| 22:15.21 | [NP]Tangent | I'd add in a point for killing the flag-stealer |
| 22:15.23 | spldart | mmm UT |
| 22:15.24 | [NP]Tangent | Unreal Tournament |
| 22:15.26 | spldart | I liked UT |
| 22:15.30 | JeffM2501 | no cap unless your flag is on your base |
| 22:15.32 | [NP]Tangent | never played it myself |
| 22:15.34 | [NP]Tangent | always wanted to |
| 22:15.34 | JeffM2501 | and no running your flag back |
| 22:15.40 | Tanner | sounds interesting |
| 22:15.45 | JeffM2501 | you touch it, it zaps back to the base |
| 22:15.53 | A_Meteorite | if only my mom wasn't so restrictive about guns... |
| 22:15.58 | Tanner | lol |
| 22:16.05 | A_Meteorite | (heh, I play America's Army when she leaves) |
| 22:16.05 | [NP]Tangent | same here Meteorite |
| 22:16.07 | spldart | Yikes |
| 22:16.07 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, yet you can drive around a tank? |
| 22:16.24 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: yup, because you aren't killing people and there is no blood |
| 22:16.34 | A_Meteorite | I know... it sounds weird |
| 22:16.37 | JeffM2501 | you can turn off the blood in UT |
| 22:16.40 | JeffM2501 | and make them all robots |
| 22:16.44 | JeffM2501 | aka. the german version |
| 22:16.53 | Tanner | heh |
| 22:16.58 | spldart | My parents bought me my first rifle when I was like 12.. I do the same for my kids... You have my sympathy on the gun thing meteor |
| 22:16.58 | JeffM2501 | I'm serious |
| 22:17.10 | spldart | woah |
| 22:17.15 | spldart | I didn't know that |
| 22:17.28 | JeffM2501 | you can't show blood or killing of people on any game you sell in germany |
| 22:17.36 | A_Meteorite | ...wow |
| 22:17.38 | spldart | woah |
| 22:17.38 | [NP]Tangent | that reminds me |
| 22:17.48 | JeffM2501 | that is why many of options for green blood, or make them all robots |
| 22:17.49 | A_Meteorite | must be related to Hitler, no? |
| 22:17.59 | [NP]Tangent | I've been listening to this one guy's music... his alias is ScreamerClauz... he's had a music video banned in Germany |
| 22:18.00 | JeffM2501 | it's related to volence in the country yes |
| 22:18.16 | JeffM2501 | they have rather strict laws on it |
| 22:18.40 | JeffM2501 | so UT has basicly a "german mode" |
| 22:18.49 | JeffM2501 | that makes everyone a robot and takes out the blood |
| 22:19.14 | A_Meteorite | ah |
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| 22:19.43 | JeffM2501 | so basicly what your mom is saying is.. if you get ideas from video games, it's wrong to learn to kill one person with a gun |
| 22:19.57 | JeffM2501 | she wants you to go bigger and go for a tank and wholesale manslaughter |
| 22:20.06 | JeffM2501 | at least she thinks of the big picture |
| 22:20.07 | spldart | Yeah! |
| 22:20.10 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 22:20.12 | spldart | oh wait |
| 22:20.12 | JeffM2501 | and property damage |
| 22:20.14 | [NP]Tangent | bzflag teaches us good lessons |
| 22:20.19 | Tanner | heh |
| 22:20.21 | [NP]Tangent | especially with the Genocide flag |
| 22:20.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah you'd think the germans would not want to see that one. |
| 22:20.44 | A_Meteorite | especially |
| 22:20.45 | spldart | and don't forget the building of synaptic pathways for good reflexes and being observant of your surroundings :) |
| 22:20.52 | Tanner | lol |
| 22:21.00 | [NP]Tangent | oh |
| 22:21.06 | JeffM2501 | spldart, tetris can do that |
| 22:21.08 | [NP]Tangent | and it teaches us about 22nd century technology |
| 22:21.11 | A_Meteorite | spldart: I jump everytime someone comes behind me |
| 22:21.11 | [NP]Tangent | with the teleports |
| 22:21.19 | Tanner | lol |
| 22:21.24 | Tanner | and jumping tanks :D |
| 22:21.27 | spldart | Not on the level of strategem as bzflag |
| 22:21.34 | spldart | LOL |
| 22:21.35 | [NP]Tangent | hah |
| 22:21.38 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: LOL! My mom is in the other room playing Tetris on my old SNES. |
| 22:21.40 | [NP]Tangent | but the teleports are important |
| 22:21.57 | [NP]Tangent | because now you don't have to stand next to someone with the Geno flag to take out an entire tank color |
| 22:22.21 | Tanner | heh |
| 22:22.22 | JeffM2501 | realy what bzflag teaches you is how to survive in prizon. form a group, get everyone else before they get you, but watch out.. your buddy can shank you at any time. |
| 22:22.34 | spldart | Sounds like life |
| 22:22.38 | Tanner | lol |
| 22:22.49 | A_Meteorite | a whole new meaning to "back-stabber" |
| 22:22.55 | JeffM2501 | well in life you don't have to kill other people before they kill you |
| 22:23.02 | spldart | sometimes you do |
| 22:23.05 | spldart | sometimes |
| 22:23.12 | JeffM2501 | rarely in this day in age |
| 22:23.20 | JeffM2501 | if you think that often then your doing it wrong ;) |
| 22:23.39 | JeffM2501 | we arn't exactly hunter/gatherers anymore ;) |
| 22:23.54 | spldart | people still do the very things that land them in prison... murder rape pillage the fields... that's evil men |
| 22:23.56 | A_Meteorite | ahh... how the human race has advanced |
| 22:24.20 | JeffM2501 | thow us back in the wild.. we'd die |
| 22:24.28 | spldart | well... speak for yourself |
| 22:24.31 | A_Meteorite | I wonder what I would do if I was born in the 19th century... |
| 22:24.33 | JeffM2501 | we are bonded to tech, just as it is bonded to us |
| 22:24.35 | spldart | most would die |
| 22:24.36 | JeffM2501 | spldart, as a whole |
| 22:24.40 | JeffM2501 | as a society |
| 22:24.41 | spldart | ah |
| 22:24.43 | spldart | y7es |
| 22:24.46 | spldart | I agree with that |
| 22:24.56 | JeffM2501 | but hey, we ain't dead yet |
| 22:25.07 | JeffM2501 | and we can geneticly engeere animals :) |
| 22:25.13 | spldart | LOL |
| 22:25.18 | spldart | with 4 arses |
| 22:25.31 | JeffM2501 | I mean cows and dogs and stuff |
| 22:25.35 | spldart | SP Ownz me |
| 22:25.37 | JeffM2501 | cows are NOT natural |
| 22:25.49 | JeffM2501 | nor are poodles |
| 22:26.08 | [NP]Tangent | but Oak Express is! |
| 22:26.11 | spldart | Heck.. are we truly natural anymore? |
| 22:26.23 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:26.25 | Tanner | Probaly not. |
| 22:26.29 | spldart | right |
| 22:26.39 | JeffM2501 | we've been doeing GE and GEed ourselves for thouseands of years |
| 22:26.57 | JeffM2501 | but realy poodles are wrong |
| 22:27.03 | spldart | lmao |
| 22:27.11 | JeffM2501 | abominations |
| 22:27.25 | JeffM2501 | cows are ok cus they are tasty :) |
| 22:27.37 | spldart | 8~D |
| 22:27.43 | Tanner | lol |
| 22:28.05 | spldart | Ow.. my grin muscles hurt. |
| 22:30.03 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 22:30.05 | [NP]Tangent | off to work now |
| 22:30.11 | [NP]Tangent | later |
| 22:30.55 | spldart | later |
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| 23:51.02 | Gnurdux | anyone here know SQL? |
| 23:51.50 | Gnurdux | i need some help with it |
| 23:51.56 | JeffM2501 | google does ;) |
| 23:52.13 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, and so does the mysql manual, but its hard to find a specific feature |
| 23:52.25 | JeffM2501 | perhaps #mysql? |
| 23:52.46 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do with it? |
| 23:52.58 | Gnurdux | do a case-insensitive search |
| 23:53.06 | JeffM2501 | of? |
| 23:53.15 | blast007 | should already be case insensitive... |
| 23:53.22 | Gnurdux | blast007, really? |
| 23:53.36 | blast007 | afaik |
| 23:53.44 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, for the autoreport... do a SELECT where callsign is <case-insensitive>... |
| 23:53.53 | [dmp] | Gnurdux: it correct. |
| 23:54.02 | Gnurdux | oh ok :P |
| 23:54.06 | [dmp] | Gnurdux: select 'A' = 'a'; would have shown you |
| 23:54.15 | Gnurdux | heh |
