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| 01:07.31 | mapper | Argh, bzflag has screwed up my computer |
| 01:07.59 | mapper | anyone else had this problem: |
| 01:08.23 | mapper | 1. screen gamma when i leave game is way to bright, and not what i started the game with |
| 01:08.41 | mapper | 2. whenever i open an app or game its set back to the wierd gamma |
| 01:08.42 | mapper | ? |
| 01:09.51 | mapper | or is everyone in this channel a mute? |
| 01:10.40 | JeffM2501 | your on windows? |
| 01:10.44 | mapper | yep |
| 01:10.57 | JeffM2501 | that usualy happens with an older directX or older drivers |
| 01:11.06 | JeffM2501 | it's the drivers job to set it back |
| 01:11.13 | JeffM2501 | if it can't it gets "wacky" |
| 01:11.21 | mapper | no kiding |
| 01:11.26 | mapper | i have direct x 9 |
| 01:11.38 | JeffM2501 | what video card? |
| 01:11.43 | mapper | hmmm |
| 01:12.55 | mapper | S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR |
| 01:13.11 | mapper | last time it happened i had to rollback windows |
| 01:17.06 | JeffM2501 | a simple restart should put your gama back |
| 01:17.15 | JeffM2501 | but check and see if there are any updated drivers |
| 01:17.31 | JeffM2501 | that is an old card..... so the driver bugs may not have ever been fixed |
| 01:17.52 | mapper | i can set the gamma back without restarting, restarting doesnt do anything |
| 01:18.10 | mapper | it just goes to funky gamma whenever i try to run anything |
| 01:18.26 | JeffM2501 | you may need to then readajust the 'brightness' in bz |
| 01:18.38 | mapper | tried that, nothing |
| 01:18.44 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 01:18.51 | JeffM2501 | I'd look for or at least reinstall your driver then |
| 01:18.58 | JeffM2501 | sounds like it's got a bad config somewhere |
| 01:19.13 | JeffM2501 | I've never had good luck with the S3 drivers |
| 01:20.54 | [dmp] | Spam at: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=85314#85314 |
| 01:21.49 | JeffM2501 | done, thanks |
| 01:28.09 | [suave] | nighty night everybody :) |
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| 01:58.47 | spldart | nightnight |
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| 03:16.59 | SC-phone | did u get the msg about #freenode-moderated here? |
| 03:17.37 | ATravelingGeek | yes |
| 03:17.39 | ATravelingGeek | everyone did |
| 03:17.53 | SC-phone | k |
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| 03:18.31 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:27.38 | [NP]Tangent | what msg about #freenode-moderated? |
| 03:28.03 | A_Meteorite | [NP]Tangent: about freenode getting hacked |
| 03:28.10 | [NP]Tangent | I didn't get that message |
| 03:28.13 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: *lilo*[Global Notice] Hi all. As you are probably aware, freenode has had some difficulties in the last day or so. One of our staffers, Susan Stewart (HedgeMage), will be on hand in #freenode-moderated in just a couple of minutes, to make a quick statement and take some questions. Thanks. |
| 03:28.42 | brlcad | [NP]Tangent: you probably did get it and it's just in your console/main window |
| 03:28.53 | brlcad | unless you turned off global notices.. |
| 03:28.59 | [NP]Tangent | brlcad, or it got sent to a channel window |
| 03:29.05 | [NP]Tangent | in which case, who knows where it went |
| 03:29.07 | [NP]Tangent | stupid xchat |
| 03:29.20 | brlcad | you have global notices going to channel windows? :) |
| 03:29.34 | brlcad | sounds like something stupid ircle would do :) |
| 03:29.38 | [NP]Tangent | no, it's supposed to go to the active window |
| 03:29.39 | [NP]Tangent | but it fails |
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| 03:34.15 | [NP]Tangent | uh oh |
| 03:34.17 | [NP]Tangent | and orange |
| 03:34.21 | [NP]Tangent | -d |
| 03:34.59 | orange | hmm? |
| 03:35.56 | brlcad | -d ? |
| 03:36.28 | JeffM2501 | and bait taken :) |
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| 04:04.16 | orange | we seem to have a revolving door |
| 04:04.29 | ATravelingGeek | yes |
| 04:04.41 | ATravelingGeek | exploit in ViWorks router firmware |
| 04:05.05 | [NP]Tangent | there's a norton flaw that does that too |
| 04:05.10 | ATravelingGeek | yup |
| 04:05.31 | ATravelingGeek | the ViWorks exploit affects linksys and netgear routers |
| 04:05.58 | [NP]Tangent | the norton exploit affects idiots |
| 04:05.58 | blast007 | ViWorks? or VxWorks? |
| 04:06.10 | [NP]Tangent | VxWorks, I think |
| 04:06.12 | ATravelingGeek | er.... |
| 04:06.19 | ATravelingGeek | yes, VxWorks I believe |
| 04:06.20 | ATravelingGeek | it |
| 04:06.21 | blast007 | well that's nice... |
| 04:06.24 | QuantumBeep | VxWorks is a firmware OS. |
| 04:06.29 | ATravelingGeek | yes, then WxWorks |
| 04:06.31 | QuantumBeep | It's what Beagle 2 runs on |
| 04:06.34 | blast007 | so I'm better off with my old linksys router that still runs linux |
| 04:06.40 | ATravelingGeek | blast007: yup |
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| 08:12.23 | Destroyer | hello all! |
| 08:12.53 | Mr_Molez | yo |
| 08:13.12 | Destroyer | 04 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Destroyer@Links01 |
| 08:13.23 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 08:13.26 | Destroyer | 04lol |
| 08:13.35 | Destroyer | 04wth |
| 08:14.07 | Destroyer | 04is here an bzflag.org admin? a need a user group |
| 08:14.20 | Destroyer | 04i need a usergroup |
| 08:14.25 | Mr_Molez | your suppose to post on the bzflag forum for groups |
| 08:14.32 | Destroyer | 04ah |
| 08:14.34 | Destroyer | 04where? |
| 08:14.39 | Mr_Molez | my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 08:14.42 | brlcad | turn off your text color please |
| 08:15.11 | Mr_Molez | brlcad: you cant use text colours here ? |
| 08:15.23 | LePoulpe303 | Destroyer: perhaps it's not a so important mistake : http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/25/1440236&from=rss |
| 08:15.50 | brlcad | not if it's not directly conveying some useful information (which 99% of the time it is not) |
| 08:16.36 | Mr_Molez | ah k |
| 08:16.50 | Mr_Molez | lol some 1 on freenode channel said it would end up on slashdot :P |
| 08:17.52 | brlcad | old news, that posted yesterday morning |
| 08:18.44 | Mr_Molez | yeh it kinda tells you the time and date when it was posted |
| 08:19.07 | LePoulpe303 | i don't work on sunday |
| 08:19.10 | LePoulpe303 | sry guys |
| 08:19.16 | LePoulpe303 | i was on the beach |
| 08:19.44 | brlcad | i don't work on sunday usually either |
| 08:19.54 | brlcad | still read my daily news though ;) |
| 08:19.54 | Mr_Molez | LePoulpe303: HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY ! heheheheh |
| 08:20.52 | LePoulpe303 | Mr_Molez: i've broken rule #2 of geeks : yesterday data is false data :D |
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| 08:21.12 | Destroyer | 04hi upsetter! |
| 08:21.27 | Upsetter | hi there |
| 08:21.41 | LePoulpe303 | heya (2) Upsetter :) |
| 08:30.33 | brlcad | it's a simple numbers game, not americans vs non-americans -- the vast majority of the world spells color without the u if only due to predominant standardization (e.g. html) and proliferation of US English |
| 08:34.35 | brlcad | same goes for humor/humour, center/centre, meter/metre, analyze/analyse, authorize/authorise, dialog/dialogue, license/licence, modeling/modelling, signaling/signalling, etc ;) |
| 08:35.34 | Mr_Molez | center/centre have two different meanings |
| 08:43.51 | brlcad | also perhaps worth noting that I vaguely recall there being a pretty strong argument in a couple academic texts that the 'modern' spelling that has generally been adopted by m-w is actually etymologically more correct |
| 08:44.37 | brlcad | ah, yes.. Robert Schoenfeld is one example, book on Chemistry journal writings |
| 08:45.04 | brlcad | would have to hunt down the book to find the argument though |
| 08:45.26 | Mr_Molez | yeh i was reading that a min ago on wikipedia |
| 08:45.34 | brlcad | and i really don't care, i'm just avoiding doing real work which I must now stop avoiding :) |
| 08:45.48 | Mr_Molez | heheh,, bbl |
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| 13:42.20 | menotume | ~brlcad++ |
| 13:42.20 | minnowbot | ~brlcad-- |
| 13:42.26 | menotume | hehe |
| 13:45.54 | BenUrban | ~brlcad+= |
| 13:46.19 | BenUrban | i know, i know, it needs an operand |
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| 14:22.54 | purple_cow | mornin' brlcad |
| 14:23.57 | brlcad | ciao |
| 14:25.38 | AlexandrTheGreat | ~gu |
| 14:25.39 | ibot | i heard gu is Guam |
| 14:25.43 | AlexandrTheGreat | hmm |
| 14:35.43 | trepan | ~minnowbot-- |
| 14:35.43 | minnowbot | ~minnowbot++ |
| 14:36.08 | trepan | aw |
| 14:36.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b %minnowbot*!*@*] by brlcad |
| 14:37.04 | brlcad | ~minnowbot-- |
| 14:37.10 | brlcad | :) |
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| 15:21.42 | menotume | :) |
| 15:21.45 | menotume | $part bzflag |
| 15:21.53 | menotume | %part bzflag |
| 15:22.11 | menotume | hmmm, bug |
| 15:23.10 | menotume | $channels |
| 15:23.28 | purple_cow | ? |
| 15:23.47 | menotume | ~purple_cow++ |
| 15:23.47 | minnowbot | ~purple_cow-- |
| 15:24.12 | menotume | heh, need caffiene |
| 15:24.20 | menotume | $part #bzflag |
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| 15:24.25 | purple_cow | eww |
| 15:24.33 | gsnedders | menotume: /part #bzflag |
| 15:24.40 | purple_cow | menotume: don't do that stuff here |
| 15:24.44 | purple_cow | that's what #botpark is for |
| 15:24.44 | gsnedders | unless I to am too tired :P |
| 15:25.03 | menotume | what, don't tell it to leave? :) |
| 15:25.17 | purple_cow | don't play with stupid bots here :P |
| 15:25.31 | menotume | it's not stupid :) |
| 15:25.58 | menotume | i know, i know, you're right :) |
| 15:28.09 | menotume | i just thought we needed a little anti-karma |
| 15:33.53 | Mr_Molez | ~bzflist |
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| 15:39.02 | sussi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.18 | sussi | that say gdb bzflag, it keep crashing |
| 15:40.00 | Chestal | yes, it's a known and unsolved problem with newer libcurl versions. Not sure yet if it's a bz or a curl bug |
| 15:40.28 | Chestal | you can work around it by viewing the server list right before joining a server. Or downgrade libcurl |
| 15:40.29 | sussi | ah |
| 15:42.49 | sussi | guess is a curl bug, cause bzflag isnt update |
| 15:48.35 | menotume | any PHP experts here ? |
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| 16:01.49 | gsnedders | menotume: yea? |
| 16:02.50 | menotume | gsnedders: nvm, i went to ##php, thx though |
| 16:03.02 | gsnedders | ##php is horrible, IMO |
| 16:03.14 | [dmp] | s/##//g :-) |
| 16:03.30 | gsnedders | ? |
| 16:03.42 | gsnedders | what's /g? |
| 16:03.49 | [dmp] | all instances |
| 16:03.57 | gsnedders | ah |
| 16:04.09 | gsnedders | PHP is horrible, that is true :) |
| 16:07.01 | menotume | [dmp]: i'm trying to do 'reloadable' classes, so a plugin can be changed without restarting the app |
| 16:07.10 | menotume | i'm looking at runkit |
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| 16:08.52 | JeffM2501 | stupid password changes |
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| 16:24.34 | JeffM2501 | blast007, close up 2rd person isn't bad, if you put in some more gunsights ;) |
| 16:24.40 | JeffM2501 | 3rd person even |
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| 17:56.53 | Benny | hola |
| 17:57.30 | blast007 | hello :) |
| 17:58.01 | Benny | hey sport!!! |
| 17:58.18 | Benny | hi meno |
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| 18:26.47 | G-MAN | I have a question: Can you log on to CVS via SSH? For BZFlag? |
| 18:27.01 | JeffM2501 | only if your a developer |
| 18:27.15 | G-MAN | Okay. Thank you. |
| 18:31.10 | G-MAN | Okay, I logged on to CVS anoumosly(sorry for spelling), now do I compile that "stuff"? |
| 18:31.52 | JeffM2501 | after you check it out, yeah you would have to compile it, following the directions in the readme for your OS |
| 18:32.06 | G-MAN | Thanks Jeff. |
| 18:34.33 | G-MAN | Dangit, I can't get Visual Studio Express. Says I need SP2, anyone know where to get that? |
| 18:35.59 | brad | http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/sp2/default.mspx |
| 18:36.41 | JeffM2501 | windows update should have also goten it to you |
| 18:36.44 | JeffM2501 | unless your not legit |
| 18:37.44 | G-MAN | What do you mean not legit? |
| 18:38.25 | JeffM2501 | if your copy of windows is not legal, then windows update won't do SP2 |
| 18:38.42 | JeffM2501 | if you are legit, and you don't have SP2 then you probably don't have a LOT of updates |
| 18:38.49 | JeffM2501 | and realy need to do windows update |
| 18:38.52 | G-MAN | Weird. It came with my HP |
| 18:39.06 | JeffM2501 | do you run windows update ever? |
| 18:39.13 | G-MAN | lol no. |
| 18:39.18 | JeffM2501 | lol then you should |
| 18:39.23 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:40.14 | G-MAN | lol, 3 month trial, you're right, and that's sad |
| 18:40.21 | JeffM2501 | well I made a bzflag channel on OFTC |
| 18:40.33 | G-MAN | huh? |
| 18:40.49 | JeffM2501 | just to see how it is |
| 18:41.04 | G-MAN | OFTC? What's that? |
| 18:41.16 | blast007 | G-MAN: google |
| 18:41.23 | G-MAN | kk |
| 18:41.40 | JeffM2501 | doubt Tim will ever want to change |
| 18:42.00 | G-MAN | oh...Open and Free Technology Community? |
| 18:43.57 | JeffM2501 | I also assume CIA isn't there |
| 18:44.10 | brad | cia is on loads of networks |
| 18:44.18 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 18:45.03 | brad | there's one in #debian-boot on oftc |
| 18:45.53 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:46.03 | G-MAN | Finnaly, my parents let me have a Ubuntu Live CD of Linux, they thought it was going to ruin windows. |
| 18:46.08 | JeffM2501 | then I'll see if I can get scanlime to set a rule |
| 18:46.55 | JeffM2501 | but then it's food time |
| 18:47.50 | G-MAN | food...All i get is these crap Budget Gourmets |
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| 19:04.38 | QuantumBeep | Your... parents... let you have Linux CD. |
| 19:05.06 | G-MAN | yes what's with ... |
| 19:05.34 | QuantumBeep | You're a child? |
| 19:05.54 | G-MAN | 15 idiot!! |
| 19:06.03 | menotume | hmmm |
| 19:06.30 | QuantumBeep | Relax. I won't hurt you. |
| 19:06.55 | gsnedders | G-MAN: mmm… I always thought 15 year olds were idiots :P |
| 19:07.01 | QuantumBeep | But 15 years old is most definitely a child. Especially if you have to ask your parent to Let You Use Linux. |
| 19:07.13 | gsnedders | G-MAN: or do you mean your an idiot 15 times over? :P |
| 19:07.35 | G-MAN | They get mad if I put thing s on the computer. Since that one one worm got into our system |
| 19:07.59 | L4m3r | that's why you buy your own |
| 19:08.08 | QuantumBeep | Or build one from spare parts. |
| 19:08.16 | L4m3r | I was your age when I bought my first box |
| 19:08.17 | G-MAN | too lazy too make money |
| 19:08.28 | QuantumBeep | I was 11 when I built my first box. |
| 19:08.35 | cosmol | computers are cheap now |
| 19:08.36 | QuantumBeep | And then used it for years. |
| 19:08.40 | cosmol | not like when i was a kid lol |
| 19:11.27 | gsnedders | :P |
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| 19:31.45 | menotume | ~brlcad++ |
| 19:32.26 | L4m3r | ~G-MAN-- |
| 19:32.53 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: I second that :) |
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| 19:34.08 | QuantumBeep | ~G-MAN-- |
| 19:34.28 | A_Meteorite | ~G-MAN-- |
| 19:34.34 | A_Meteorite | ~karma G-MAN |
| 19:34.34 | ibot | g-man has karma of -3 |
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| 19:56.26 | JeffM2501 | QuantumBeep, G-Man play nice |
| 19:56.54 | QuantumBeep | We'll keep it in channels you don't have to look at. |
| 19:56.59 | [NP]Tangent | ~karma TangenT++ |
| 19:56.59 | ibot | tangent++ has neutral karma |
| 19:57.06 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 19:57.20 | [NP]Tangent | ~karma TangenT |
| 19:57.20 | ibot | tangent has neutral karma |
| 19:57.21 | JeffM2501 | you goaded him on, be nice |
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| 22:06.24 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 22:06.24 | ryanakca | lol |
| 22:06.45 | Ballard | yup i just thought that u guys should know that |
| 22:06.52 | JeffM2501 | gee thanks |
| 22:06.58 | Ballard | yup anytime |
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| 22:22.35 | G-MAN | in 2.0.8, when I play my FPS drops down to 16 and even lower, anyone know how to fix that? |
| 22:23.11 | JeffM2501 | what did your FPS used to be in 2.0.6? |
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| 22:23.19 | G-MAN | 40-60 |
| 22:23.34 | JeffM2501 | nothing was realy changed with graphics in that one |
| 22:23.40 | JeffM2501 | I'd make sure your settings are the same |
| 22:23.50 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 22:23.56 | G-MAN | XP |
| 22:24.19 | JeffM2501 | you compile any of them yourself? |
| 22:24.26 | G-MAN | no |
| 22:24.36 | JeffM2501 | comparing the same maps? |
| 22:24.59 | G-MAN | yes |
| 22:25.16 | JeffM2501 | well 2.0.8 only has some small fixes, if it's not your settings, just use 2.0.6 |
| 22:25.46 | G-MAN | Are there any new versions of OpenGL out there or is that not the case? |
| 22:25.59 | JeffM2501 | there are, but that is not your problem |
| 22:26.04 | G-MAN | ok |
| 22:26.17 | JeffM2501 | both BZFlags will be using the same GL on your system |
| 22:26.23 | JeffM2501 | openGL is dynamicly linked |
| 22:26.32 | JeffM2501 | and provided by your video driver |
| 22:26.44 | G-MAN | that is just too strange, why this is happening |
| 22:26.50 | JeffM2501 | buggy build |
| 22:26.58 | G-MAN | relly? |
| 22:27.01 | JeffM2501 | asuming you are using official builds for both |
| 22:27.09 | G-MAN | I am |
| 22:27.22 | JeffM2501 | incompatabilitys can happen form time to time |
| 22:27.31 | JeffM2501 | but I know both of those were made the same |
| 22:27.40 | G-MAN | oh well, thanks for your time |
| 22:28.02 | JeffM2501 | unless we didn't do GLEW in .6 |
| 22:28.07 | JeffM2501 | that's the only thing I can think of |
| 22:28.18 | JeffM2501 | do you have anisotropic filtering on in 2.0.8? |
| 22:28.21 | G-MAN | What does GLEW do? |
| 22:28.24 | JeffM2501 | stuff |
| 22:28.43 | JeffM2501 | it enables a number of openGL extensions |
| 22:28.46 | G-MAN | anisotropic filtering. What's that, and probaly not. |
| 22:28.49 | G-MAN | oh |
| 22:28.56 | JeffM2501 | it's a seting |
| 22:28.58 | JeffM2501 | in BZ |
| 22:28.59 | JeffM2501 | check it |
| 22:29.03 | G-MAN | kk |
| 22:30.53 | G-MAN | nope says it's unaivailable. |
| 22:31.02 | JeffM2501 | in 2.0.6 or 2.0.8 ? |
| 22:31.03 | G-MAN | can't spell |
| 22:31.06 | G-MAN | .8 |
| 22:31.12 | JeffM2501 | check .6 |
| 22:31.16 | JeffM2501 | just to be sure |
| 22:31.18 | G-MAN | kk |
| 22:31.36 | G-MAN | What would happen if i deleted that Glew dll |
| 22:32.05 | JeffM2501 | probably won't run |
| 22:32.17 | G-MAN | let me check .6 then |
| 22:32.39 | G-MAN | it's activated |
| 22:32.51 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 22:33.04 | JeffM2501 | they are both suposed to use the same config setting |
| 22:33.16 | L4m3r | ok, I have a weird question |
| 22:33.32 | JeffM2501 | does that mean I can give you a wierd answer? |
| 22:33.40 | G-MAN | lol |
| 22:33.44 | L4m3r | say a plugin is build on a dfferent system than the server. |
| 22:33.49 | L4m3r | built* |
| 22:34.04 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 22:34.10 | L4m3r | linux. |
| 22:34.19 | JeffM2501 | then it could get "fun" |
| 22:34.22 | L4m3r | server = FC3, plugin built under suse 10 |
| 22:34.30 | JeffM2501 | and the server won't load it? |
| 22:34.39 | L4m3r | now, if they're not compatible, shouldn't it not work at all? |
| 22:34.46 | L4m3r | it works... for a while |
| 22:34.49 | JeffM2501 | welll....... |
| 22:34.54 | L4m3r | then it seg faults |
| 22:35.01 | JeffM2501 | the app, or the plugin may be using difrent versions of the runtimes |
| 22:35.17 | L4m3r | well, I know my suse 10 BZFS binaries don't work under FC3 |
| 22:35.29 | JeffM2501 | one of those runtimes may have a bug that you don't see till it runs a while |
| 22:35.33 | L4m3r | but plugins seem to work without incident... except this one |
| 22:35.42 | L4m3r | meh |
| 22:35.44 | JeffM2501 | well the plugins can and will use external librarys |
| 22:35.53 | JeffM2501 | problby depends on what you use in them |
| 22:36.06 | L4m3r | could the use of a std::map be to blame? |
| 22:36.08 | JeffM2501 | I'm guessing it dosn't die till your plugin calls some function that is jacked or missing on the server system |
| 22:36.16 | L4m3r | well, that's the weird thing |
| 22:36.26 | JeffM2501 | guess you could log it out |
| 22:36.33 | JeffM2501 | it work if you build on the server? |
| 22:36.40 | L4m3r | before I set up the server I checked it |
| 22:36.56 | L4m3r | when it starts to crap out, unloading will segfault the server |
| 22:37.12 | L4m3r | but I tested it earlier and it unloaded fine. now it won't... :| |
| 22:37.18 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 22:37.28 | L4m3r | I'll try building under FC3 |
| 22:37.34 | L4m3r | different machine, but should work better |
| 22:37.39 | JeffM2501 | brlcad or dtr may know more about how they work under leenox |
| 22:38.19 | L4m3r | stupid thing waited until I was at the top of the list to crash... :'( |
| 22:39.01 | JeffM2501 | how do you know it's not code I snuck into the server that did that ;) |
| 22:39.08 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:39.21 | JeffM2501 | I mean apearantly eveyryone hates me |
| 22:39.25 | JeffM2501 | so there must be a reason why |
| 22:40.02 | L4m3r | peaked at like 27 players, in an hour. on a four-team map. |
| 22:40.09 | orange | it's the numbers in your name JeffM2501 |
| 22:40.18 | orange | something about them inspires fear and anger |
| 22:40.19 | JeffM2501 | that should just make me lame |
| 22:40.23 | JeffM2501 | not hated |
| 22:40.26 | L4m3r | lol |
| 22:40.31 | DemolitionMan | that better? |
| 22:40.37 | orange | cower mortals |
| 22:40.52 | orange | sly is here |
| 22:40.52 | L4m3r | ok, time to boot up Fedora and do some compiling... |
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| 22:47.46 | ryanakca | what's the Hunt thingy for? I can select using seven & up/down... just what does it do... how do you use it? |
| 22:48.03 | PuMpErNiCkLe | It highlights a specific player on your radar. |
| 22:48.14 | ryanakca | ah, kk, ty |
| 22:51.04 | brlcad | probably was an external library call in l4m3r's plugin.. possibly stl but not likely |
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| 23:03.40 | G-MAN | Who is DemolitionMan?? |
| 23:03.47 | DemolitionMan | your worst knightmare! |
| 23:03.48 | Mr_Molez | some noob :P |
| 23:04.16 | G-MAN | knightmare is spelt nightmare, but we are getting there |
| 23:04.34 | DemolitionMan | you have been fined one credit for a violation of the verbal moraility code |
| 23:04.36 | L4m3r | compiled under FC3, no dice |
| 23:04.49 | DemolitionMan | sounds like it's time to debug then ;) |
| 23:04.55 | G-MAN | huh?? what?? |
| 23:04.56 | L4m3r | I know... :( |
| 23:05.02 | G-MAN | violation?? |
| 23:05.04 | DemolitionMan | it's just gdb |
| 23:05.37 | G-MAN | gdp stands for... |
| 23:05.54 | L4m3r | are you dyslexic too? |
| 23:05.58 | G-MAN | oops |
| 23:06.01 | G-MAN | gdb |
| 23:06.13 | G-MAN | looked at it fast |
| 23:06.35 | L4m3r | my only guess would be that std::rand() is to blame |
| 23:07.49 | L4m3r | although that doesn't explain why it dies when I try to unload it... |
| 23:08.36 | G-MAN | Update for Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) 2.0 and WinHTTP 5.1 (KB842773),<- Windows update woin't work |
| 23:08.56 | G-MAN | they failed for the fifth time |
| 23:11.14 | G-MAN | dear god! the regedit won't work! |
| 23:12.51 | G-MAN | how do i fix that |
| 23:13.15 | G-MAN | it says it's an illegal instruction |
| 23:14.54 | brad | try ##windows |
| 23:18.15 | G-MAN | They said someone has remote control of my computer!! |
| 23:20.09 | G-MAN | You guys are computer smart, what should I do?? |
| 23:20.31 | L4m3r | anyone who knows C++ care to look over a plugin for me? |
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| 23:21.09 | brad | G-MAN: disconnect it from the internet :P |
| 23:21.11 | L4m3r | it's broken and I can't figure out why |
| 23:21.19 | brad | then nobody can gain remote control |
| 23:21.55 | G-MAN | i know little C++ |
| 23:22.11 | G-MAN | not enought though |
| 23:22.47 | L4m3r | anyone who knows just about any language knows "a little C++" just by knowing the common syntax |
| 23:22.58 | G-MAN | oh well, let them do whatever |
| 23:24.30 | G-MAN | what do you save C++ files as?? |
| 23:24.36 | L4m3r | .cpp ... |
| 23:24.41 | G-MAN | kk |
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| 23:27.33 | A_Meteorite | DemolitionMan: ping |
| 23:28.38 | G-MAN | where can i find a windows C++ compiler |
| 23:28.56 | Matt123 | www.mingw.org? |
| 23:29.14 | Matt123 | i think that is the web page |
| 23:29.15 | DemolitionMan | or the free visual studio |
| 23:29.33 | A_Meteorite | DemolitionMan: see my response in PM |
| 23:30.34 | DemolitionMan | L4m3r, I can take a look if you want |
| 23:31.06 | L4m3r | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/72547 |
| 23:31.53 | DemolitionMan | you have a flat array of vectors? |
| 23:32.10 | L4m3r | is that bad? :x |
| 23:32.17 | DemolitionMan | techiuncaly no |
| 23:32.19 | DemolitionMan | just kinda ugly |
| 23:32.26 | DemolitionMan | I'm guessing you have a count off somehwere |
| 23:32.33 | DemolitionMan | and are going off the end of a vector or array |
| 23:32.42 | DemolitionMan | but you have so many it's hard to follow |
| 23:32.56 | L4m3r | yeah, that would be my first guess too, but I can't seem to find out where |
| 23:33.03 | L4m3r | the randomness makes it particularly annoying |
| 23:33.10 | DemolitionMan | that is why debugers are your friend ;) |
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| 23:33.42 | L4m3r | how can I use a debugger on a remote server? or is there a way to see info from the crash after it happens? |
| 23:33.59 | DemolitionMan | build the plugin with debug symbols |
| 23:34.01 | brlcad | core file |
| 23:34.07 | DemolitionMan | run bzfs in the debuger |
| 23:34.09 | L4m3r | and... why does it segfault when I unload it? |
| 23:34.11 | DemolitionMan | on like screen |
| 23:34.12 | G-MAN | 243 lines of scripting. Gee, somebody has a lot of time on their hands. |
| 23:34.52 | L4m3r | it's not scripting ;) |
| 23:34.59 | G-MAN | huh?? |
| 23:34.59 | DemolitionMan | that is source code G-MAN |
| 23:35.04 | G-MAN | oh |
| 23:35.06 | DemolitionMan | and that' is very small |
| 23:35.12 | G-MAN | wow |
| 23:35.32 | DemolitionMan | files often have thoustands of lines in them |
| 23:35.38 | DemolitionMan | and projects have many files ;) |
| 23:36.14 | L4m3r | is there anything amiss with the unload function? |
| 23:36.41 | DemolitionMan | if you've blown over memory, then on uload it may be doing some wacky stuff |
| 23:37.05 | DemolitionMan | specialy if it's trying to dealocate stuff that it didn't allocate, like if you've overwirten a pointer with some crap |
| 23:37.06 | brlcad | L4m3r: ah, you weren't around when I answered.. if it only crashes on unload then it's more than likely stack/memory corruption |
| 23:37.33 | brlcad | yeah, what boom guy said ;) |
| 23:37.43 | L4m3r | hm.... |
| 23:37.47 | DemolitionMan | valgrind :) |
| 23:38.08 | L4m3r | perhaps I screwed something up with the ++ operator |
| 23:38.15 | G-MAN | well, going to take my daily catnap cya |
| 23:38.52 | DemolitionMan | somone feed gnardux after midnight didn't they? |
| 23:39.04 | brlcad | L4m3r: can you run the server through gdb? |
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| 23:39.20 | L4m3r | I don't think so... |
| 23:39.38 | L4m3r | I could try to do it locally but I doubt the same thing would happen- let me check |
| 23:39.57 | brlcad | i mean remotely |
| 23:40.05 | brlcad | is gdb not installed remotely or something? |
| 23:40.36 | DemolitionMan | anything you can do localy in a terminal, you can do remotely in a terminal :) |
| 23:41.00 | DemolitionMan | you cane even run it in screen, let it die, then go back, atach to the screen and then run the gdb session |
| 23:42.06 | L4m3r | oh wow, it happens locally too |
| 23:42.21 | L4m3r | how does one run gdb? |
| 23:45.15 | brlcad | gdb --args bzfs --with --whatever --args --you-usually -use |
| 23:45.28 | brlcad | then on the gdb prompt |
| 23:45.30 | brlcad | run |
| 23:45.55 | brlcad | then do whatever it is that makes it crash -- gdb will return you to a prompt when it does |
| 23:46.11 | brlcad | at which point you can type: backtrace |
| 23:46.49 | L4m3r | ok, thx |
| 23:46.59 | DemolitionMan | and to think.. for me that all is just "F5" ;) |
| 23:47.41 | L4m3r | yeah yeah, I know how to do it on windoze too |
| 23:47.44 | L4m3r | :P |
| 23:48.55 | DemolitionMan | but remember IDEs are bad |
| 23:48.58 | DemolitionMan | and evil |
| 23:49.02 | DemolitionMan | and I'm just trying to corupt you |
| 23:49.10 | DemolitionMan | that's why people hate me |
| 23:49.24 | brlcad | course hitting F5 in screen doesn't help too much :) |
| 23:49.37 | brlcad | or even logged in to any remote windows server ;) |
| 23:49.44 | DemolitionMan | mehh remote or local, in VC8 it's all F5 ;) |
| 23:49.53 | DemolitionMan | built in remote debuging ;) |
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| 23:50.50 | DemolitionMan | brlcad, is the debuger in X code just a shell on gdb? or do they do there own thing? |
| 23:51.07 | brlcad | both |
| 23:51.25 | L4m3r | wow, this is some crazy stuff |
| 23:51.30 | DemolitionMan | there own thing on top of GDB |
| 23:51.38 | brlcad | it uses gdb on the backend and does it's own thing to make it integrate fully with xcode |
| 23:51.40 | DemolitionMan | first time using a debuger L4m3r ? |
| 23:51.43 | L4m3r | libraries don't make it any easier to understand |
| 23:51.49 | L4m3r | first time using gdb |
| 23:51.55 | brlcad | did you get a backtrace? |
| 23:51.58 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 23:52.17 | brlcad | and that trace is? |
| 23:52.24 | brlcad | what's #0-#3 |
| 23:52.42 | L4m3r | lemme pastebin it, hold on |
| 23:52.50 | L4m3r | (on a different machine) |
| 23:53.56 | L4m3r | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/72581 |
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| 23:55.13 | brlcad | erp, if you're going to pastebin it, put the whole trace ;) |
| 23:55.18 | L4m3r | heh |
| 23:55.21 | L4m3r | let me fix it |
| 23:56.08 | L4m3r | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/72582 |
| 23:57.19 | L4m3r | looks like an exception is thrown in the process of unloading the plugin? |
| 23:58.17 | brlcad | sort of |
| 23:58.35 | brlcad | it's crashing while destructing a std::string |
| 23:58.45 | DemolitionMan | a string you've probalby blown over |
| 23:58.57 | DemolitionMan | and couruptd it's internal pointer |
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| 23:59.26 | L4m3r | yeah, but... I don't modify any of those strings |
| 23:59.30 | brlcad | look at all the usages of std::string in your plugin |
| 23:59.38 | DemolitionMan | my guess would be that you got the [] for your static array mixed with the [] for your vector somewhere |
| 23:59.46 | DemolitionMan | since that is a vector of std::strings |
| 23:59.46 | L4m3r | perhaps |
| 23:59.49 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 23:59.53 | L4m3r | the only one, I think |
| 23:59.57 | DemolitionMan | yeah |