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| 00:10.40 | JeffM2501 | and he poofs |
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| 01:47.18 | spatialguru | hi all |
| 01:47.32 | spatialguru | anyone happen to use a Thrustmaster T2 steering wheel with bzflag on linux or mac ? |
| 01:47.44 | spatialguru | (yeah, the old one :) |
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| 01:51.54 | spatialguru | i installed with darwin port command.. are there better ways for intel mac ? |
| 01:52.02 | spatialguru | oops, changed subject :) |
| 01:52.09 | spatialguru | bzflag stopped working on my macbook last week :9 |
| 01:52.17 | spatialguru | :9[ |
| 01:56.29 | A-Delusion | were you using the 2.0.4 version? |
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| 01:58.22 | A-Delusion | try the 2.0.8 version http://eidotter.de/~alexx/bzflag/ |
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| 02:27.12 | Constitution | If bzflag STOPS WORKING for some reason (when it has worked in the past), deleting the config file can help. |
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| 02:48.34 | Tropican8 | AMD or Intel......bzflag is the target app lol, among other things |
| 02:49.19 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Running on which OS? |
| 02:49.37 | Tropican8 | Debian and Windows |
| 02:51.31 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I'd go with Intel, and get an Intel chipset. They're usually well documented and support is better. |
| 02:51.57 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Not that I'd base the entire purchase on that, but everything else being equal... |
| 02:52.37 | Tropican8 | Their cheaper now too... |
| 02:53.19 | PuMpErNiCkLe | AMD is planning on price-matching "soon". |
| 02:54.38 | Tropican8 | There's also the issue of which socket to get on AMDs, the cheaper or the newer AM2s. All Intels use socket T |
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| 03:17.56 | purple_cow | the next person to stick "lol" in the middle of a sentence will feel my wrath, i swear to god |
| 03:19.22 | L4m3r | lol why? |
| 03:19.38 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Why, lol, why? ^_^ |
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| 03:20.12 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Right, then. |
| 03:20.20 | L4m3r | can I stick the a sentence in the middle of a lol? |
| 03:20.22 | I_Died_Once | awesome chat room administration |
| 03:20.32 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Note to self: to not taunt the ops. |
| 03:20.37 | I_Died_Once | elle, oh, elle |
| 03:21.34 | purple_cow | even in jest, it's stupid! |
| 03:22.29 | purple_cow | are you actually laughing out loud? i doubt it |
| 03:23.09 | orange | well, I did when you kicked them .... if a chuckle counts :-) |
| 03:24.37 | purple_cow | i have, in my tenure on the internet, seen 3 things that caused me to actually "laugh out loud" |
| 03:25.05 | purple_cow | if i knew people who did as much as they "lol"ed, i'd punch them in the mouth |
| 03:25.31 | orange | read bash.org? |
| 03:25.38 | I_Died_Once | does "ROFLMAO" count? |
| 03:25.48 | purple_cow | I_Died_Once: that's even worse |
| 03:26.11 | I_Died_Once | i saw a video a while back... you'd appreciate it, cow |
| 03:26.50 | I_Died_Once | guys carrying out a real conversation actually saying "oh emme effe gee! double-you tee effe" |
| 03:27.14 | purple_cow | "appreciate" might be a strong word for it |
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| 03:48.29 | lol | :D |
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| 04:17.25 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 04:17.36 | [NP]Tangent | I got an idea for a title for my new hardcore CD |
| 04:17.48 | [NP]Tangent | UPDATE humanity SET living=0 WHERE emo=1 |
| 04:18.21 | blast007 | that's nice... |
| 04:47.41 | cosmos | hardcore? as in porn? |
| 04:48.29 | L4m3r | no, hardcore as in crappy music |
| 04:50.51 | cosmos | heh |
| 04:51.04 | cosmos | the former would have made a more interesting CD |
| 04:51.15 | L4m3r | heh |
| 04:51.18 | L4m3r | true. |
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| 06:08.30 | [NP]Tangent | hardcore as in fast and noisy dance music designed to give people headaches |
| 06:08.36 | [NP]Tangent | I intend to make all the emos listen to it |
| 06:08.44 | [NP]Tangent | so that they will go smash their heads against a brick wall |
| 06:08.54 | [NP]Tangent | thus creating world peace |
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| 06:53.32 | [NP]Tangent | is there a way to rehash the groups file without restarting the server? |
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| 07:11.34 | [NP]Tangent | ah, nevermind |
| 07:11.40 | [NP]Tangent | I got a good chance to restart |
| 07:11.42 | [NP]Tangent | so no harm done |
| 07:14.04 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.09 | [NP]Tangent | ah well |
| 07:16.12 | [NP]Tangent | I'll know next time |
| 07:16.18 | cosmos | :) |
| 07:18.20 | [NP]Tangent | my server seems to be quite well liked |
| 07:18.22 | [NP]Tangent | that's really neat |
| 07:18.28 | [NP]Tangent | especially since I put it up yesterday |
| 07:19.09 | cosmos | what is it |
| 07:19.20 | [NP]Tangent | it's the Null Productions CTF Playground server |
| 07:19.33 | [NP]Tangent | 216.32.80.156 is the IP |
| 07:19.35 | [NP]Tangent | port 5154 |
| 07:19.58 | [NP]Tangent | I'm gonna get back on in a second |
| 07:20.02 | cosmos | what map is it running |
| 07:20.26 | cosmos | i was amazed to see 15 folks on pillbox this late |
| 07:20.34 | [NP]Tangent | it's running a map that I made |
| 07:20.39 | [NP]Tangent | that new one I posted on the forums |
| 07:20.44 | [NP]Tangent | TangenT's playground |
| 07:20.48 | [NP]Tangent | the CTF version of it |
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| 08:59.03 | uso | [NP]Tangent: it's unbalanced, long range lasers on a small, mostly open map and no (few?) counter flags |
| 09:02.53 | [NP]Tangent | no bad flags |
| 09:03.06 | [NP]Tangent | I'm actually recompiling bzfs with --enable-shared |
| 09:03.14 | [NP]Tangent | so that I can have the fairCTF plugin loaded |
| 09:04.36 | [NP]Tangent | by the way |
| 09:04.46 | [NP]Tangent | does -autoteam work in 2.0.8? |
| 09:05.00 | [NP]Tangent | because when I put that in the conf, it spits out a warning that -autoteam is an unknown flag |
| 09:07.12 | trepan | autoTeam |
| 09:08.08 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 09:09.55 | [NP]Tangent | sweet, that works |
| 09:10.04 | [NP]Tangent | now we'll just have to get this recompile going in a bit |
| 09:10.23 | [NP]Tangent | it's up until then |
| 09:10.36 | [NP]Tangent | uso: what was your username on the server? |
| 09:11.46 | uso | don't remember it :) |
| 09:12.16 | uso | was some hours ago |
| 09:12.35 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 09:12.39 | [NP]Tangent | I think it's cool |
| 09:12.46 | [NP]Tangent | just needs some tweaking here and there |
| 09:12.50 | [NP]Tangent | less lasers |
| 09:13.00 | [NP]Tangent | as much as I love lasers |
| 09:13.05 | [NP]Tangent | I think there are a little too many |
| 09:14.22 | uso | yup, if you get spawn killed the fifth time in a row by a camping laser it's not fun ;) |
| 09:14.56 | uso | you should have at least the same number of counter flags, i.e. CL flags, maybe some ST's |
| 09:15.29 | uso | and you should limit the range of the lasers |
| 09:20.54 | [NP]Tangent | so a laser can't hit a CL, right? |
| 09:21.03 | [NP]Tangent | and a GM I know won't lock on to a ST |
| 09:21.07 | [NP]Tangent | what about SW? |
| 09:21.13 | [NP]Tangent | or G? |
| 09:23.37 | [NP]Tangent | what defends against SW or G besides SH? |
| 09:23.43 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 09:23.52 | [NP]Tangent | SH does no good if a teammate's hit with G |
| 09:27.34 | [NP]Tangent | gonna go play on my server a while |
| 09:27.36 | [NP]Tangent | then bed |
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| 14:28.39 | A-Delusion | Through corresondece with eidotter (yolk) I have come up with what I consider to be excellent compiling instructions for Intel Macs (including the SDL-includes fix) I imagine that these would work on a PPC mac as well. |
| 14:29.47 | A-Delusion | Since posting compiling instrusctions can be a sensitive subject, I figured I'd mention it here first. |
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| 15:27.35 | ruskie | mmmmm 100 frags... was fun... |
| 15:27.42 | gsnedders | :D |
| 15:28.31 | ruskie | wanted to finish it off with a cap.. but sadly uneven teams |
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| 16:16.01 | Mr_Molez | i think its ##ducleague :P |
| 16:16.40 | t2m | hi, i have no idea, but i missed the slash--->/ |
| 16:16.52 | Mr_Molez | :P |
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| 16:17.45 | CBG | r67890 |
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| 16:19.28 | CBG | ~Saturos++ |
| 16:19.35 | Saturos | Hi CBG. :) |
| 16:19.41 | Saturos | I am testing Opera IRC... |
| 16:19.54 | Saturos | Looks good so far. |
| 16:20.01 | CBG | :) |
| 16:20.47 | CBG | I am cleaning out my keyboard. It is amazing how much "stuff" goes between my keys. |
| 16:21.15 | Saturos | I know that... |
| 16:21.30 | Saturos | lately I cleaned my laptop... it was disguesting |
| 16:21.37 | Saturos | disguisting |
| 16:21.54 | t2m | hi guys, hopefully no bugs, or mould cheese |
| 16:22.02 | Saturos | Hmm... dont like this irc-program. |
| 16:22.03 | Saturos | brb |
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| 16:23.29 | Saturos | Konversation is much better. :) |
| 16:23.56 | CBG | Wow, even stuff UNDER my keyboard, inside my iBook. :o |
| 16:23.58 | t2m | i'm currently using zeebrothers irc (i'm new) and tried mIRC, but they wanted money to register, any suggestions |
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| 16:24.10 | CBG | It's hot in there too :( |
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| 16:24.14 | CBG | t2m: OS? |
| 16:24.20 | CBG | hey smalltux :) |
| 16:24.27 | Saturos | t2m, you could use x-chat. |
| 16:24.27 | smalltux | hoy, David_V here :) |
| 16:24.29 | Saturos | it is free |
| 16:24.53 | Saturos | http://www.xchat.org/ |
| 16:24.54 | smalltux | anyone using bz 2.0.6 / 2.0.8 on Debian or Linux? mine segfaults just about every time i try to join a server |
| 16:25.13 | Gnurdux | smalltux, debian stable? |
| 16:25.18 | smalltux | unstable =) |
| 16:25.21 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 16:25.23 | Gnurdux | im on testing |
| 16:25.38 | Gnurdux | unstable is prolly broken as usually |
| 16:25.46 | Saturos | Binary or did you try to compile from source? |
| 16:25.56 | brlcad | smalltux: try turning off lighting on the graphics option menu |
| 16:25.58 | smalltux | well, yes and no... i think this is a shared responsibility |
| 16:26.03 | smalltux | Saturos: i tried both |
| 16:26.14 | smalltux | brlcad: trying |
| 16:26.15 | Gnurdux | Saturos, xchat costs $$ on windows.. at least the one from the site does |
| 16:26.27 | t2m | hi smalltux, din't really know david_v but, hey, hi anyway :) |
| 16:26.28 | Gnurdux | t2m, silverex.org |
| 16:26.28 | Saturos | oh, really? |
| 16:26.40 | Gnurdux | Saturos, but since its open source, anyone can make a build |
| 16:26.48 | Gnurdux | and the one from silverex.org is free |
| 16:26.48 | Saturos | ;) |
| 16:26.56 | brlcad | smalltux: thou confuseth me with the name change :) |
| 16:27.00 | smalltux | brlcad: doesn't help |
| 16:27.02 | brlcad | i take it your out of classes now |
| 16:27.06 | smalltux | sorry ;) |
| 16:27.22 | brlcad | smalltux: can you run it in gdb? |
| 16:27.35 | smalltux | i thought that, hey i'd been out in one year or whatever, why not change the callsign ;) |
| 16:28.01 | t2m | Gnurdux, did that last message i sent go PM, just checking, testing |
| 16:28.05 | smalltux | haven't learnt gdb yet unfortunately, although i have a ref. book here that i could try |
| 16:28.36 | brlcad | no need, the basics are pretty simple: gdb --args /path/to/gdb --any --options |
| 16:29.01 | brlcad | then type "run" at the gdb prompt.. play until it crashes (hit F1) to go to windowed mode beforehand |
| 16:29.11 | brlcad | then type "bt" at the gdb prompt |
| 16:29.22 | brlcad | (backtrace) |
| 16:29.27 | smalltux | right, forgot the windowed thing |
| 16:29.32 | smalltux | moment |
| 16:29.57 | brlcad | hopefully your build has debug symbols, in which case the backtrace should show exactly where it crashed and hopefully why |
| 16:30.34 | brlcad | er, and that was supposed to be /path/to/bzflag not /path/to/gdb.. |
| 16:30.42 | smalltux | i know ;) |
| 16:30.55 | smalltux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.59 | smalltux | yeah, not stripped |
| 16:31.32 | brlcad | excellent |
| 16:31.55 | smalltux | hmm |
| 16:32.13 | smalltux | doesn't work so good. 1) i managed to join 2) i lost keyboard control in bz ;) |
| 16:32.20 | trepan | also make sure you don't have your input locked to the window |
| 16:32.34 | trepan | options -> input -> confine mouse = no |
| 16:33.52 | brlcad | using the -window option to bzflag might maintain key input as well instead of F1, though both 'should' work |
| 16:34.27 | TimRiker | and turn off mouse capture in the config. |
| 16:35.42 | smalltux | stupid thing refuses to crash... hm :) |
| 16:36.05 | TimRiker | ~make bzflag crash |
| 16:36.07 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `bzflag crash'. Stop. |
| 16:36.08 | smalltux | segfaults fine without debugger :) |
| 16:36.32 | brlcad | then problem solved ;) |
| 16:36.34 | trepan | smalltux: another way to go is to switch to a console, start gdb from there, and run bzflag with fullscreen/mouse capture |
| 16:37.04 | trepan | (in case either of those are contributing factors) |
| 16:37.14 | smalltux | brlcad: that sure is user-friendly, eh? :) |
| 16:37.16 | brlcad | yeah, you can "attach pid" to attach to whatever bzflag's process ID is after it is started |
| 16:38.00 | brlcad | (too) |
| 16:38.26 | trepan | could also use cores, valgrind it, or pick random scrabble tiles out of a bag in the hope that they'll spell out the problem |
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| 16:50.22 | smalltux | brlcad: ok, got some backtrace (was looking for some commands) |
| 16:50.44 | smalltux | #0 0xa79512ea in curl_getdate () from /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 |
| 16:50.44 | smalltux | #1 0xa7951420 in curl_getdate () from /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 |
| 16:50.44 | smalltux | #2 0xa794b164 in curl_multi_perform () from /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 |
| 16:50.44 | smalltux | #3 0x0820f2b1 in cURLManager::perform () at cURLManager.cxx:286 |
| 16:50.44 | smalltux | #4 0x081547e9 in playingLoop () at playing.cxx:6077 |
| 16:50.46 | smalltux | #5 0x08157361 in startPlaying (_display=0x82839e0, renderer=@0x84ab4a0) |
| 16:50.49 | smalltux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.05 | smalltux | #6 0x0812d9c6 in main (argc=1, argv=0xafcc2464) at bzflag.cxx:1286 |
| 16:51.24 | smalltux | i also have the more verbose version and a core dump if that helps anyone |
| 16:52.18 | brlcad | so crashing inside curl... |
| 16:52.40 | smalltux | could explain things, yes =) |
| 16:52.52 | brlcad | can curl be up/down-graded? |
| 16:53.27 | smalltux | if bz compiles with libcurl2, i can try that |
| 16:54.15 | brlcad | what version do you have? |
| 16:54.46 | smalltux | sorry these version numbers are confusing me. the package libcurl3 is here named as 7.15.4-1 |
| 16:55.20 | smalltux | "libcurl2" is 7.11.2-2 |
| 16:55.57 | smalltux | the dash-part is the debian patches |
| 16:56.15 | brlcad | hmm.. 7.15 should be okay |
| 16:56.20 | brlcad | unless it's a new bug |
| 16:56.56 | brlcad | i could easily see 7.11 causing problems |
| 16:57.20 | brlcad | easy enough to "try the other" regardless |
| 16:57.46 | smalltux | so one would think... seems like they removed the package ;) |
| 16:58.06 | smalltux | i'll try my luck on the Etch (testing) system first |
| 16:58.13 | brlcad | is your system clock set right? |
| 16:58.24 | smalltux | it's NTP:d |
| 16:58.31 | smalltux | and correctly timezoned :) |
| 16:59.24 | smalltux | well turns out i lied there, but it's only three minuts off |
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| 17:08.43 | smalltux | brlcad: thanks for your patience :) i'll see what happens on Etch (uses libcurl 7.15.3-2), and then possibly make a bug report |
| 17:13.08 | brlcad | no problem |
| 17:13.49 | brlcad | another relatively easy thing to try is to download and compile bzflag yourself and see if you still have the problem |
| 17:15.38 | smalltux | that's what i did :) |
| 17:15.42 | smalltux | both 2.0.8 and 2.0.6 |
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| 17:37.47 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 17:41.20 | Mr_Molez | any clever people around ? |
| 17:41.56 | Mr_Molez | if i have obs max of 20 in a .conf file and obs max of 2 in a world file |
| 17:42.03 | Mr_Molez | how come obs becomes like 6/7 |
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| 17:47.48 | idiot | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
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| 17:54.17 | Mr_Molez | heh |
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| 18:01.17 | Mr_Molez | oh its cbg :P |
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| 18:08.01 | brlcad | CBG: please fix your client.. |
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| 18:08.19 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 18:08.20 | blast007 | someone is using that router exploid... |
| 18:08.24 | blast007 | exploit* |
| 18:08.30 | brlcad | i know |
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| 18:08.36 | brlcad | you think he would have figured it out by now |
| 18:08.43 | Mr_Molez | lmao |
| 18:08.50 | Mr_Molez | router exploit ? |
| 18:09.43 | Mr_Molez | nevermind dont care goda go, cu |
| 18:10.14 | SportChick | sgk284: hiya!! |
| 18:10.22 | sgk284 | sporty@ |
| 18:10.24 | sgk284 | ! |
| 18:10.29 | sgk284 | hey there:) |
| 18:10.33 | sgk284 | how have you been? |
| 18:10.40 | SportChick | good |
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| 18:11.25 | SportChick | sgk284: pm :) |
| 18:11.27 | brlcad | CBG`: if you don't resolve the issue shortly, a temp ban will have to be imposed |
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| 18:12.20 | L4m3r | brlcad: someone over on #planetmofo is using some exploit to punt him |
| 18:12.40 | brlcad | L4m3r: i know, it's a pretty old exploit |
| 18:12.43 | L4m3r | I don't think CBG's even there |
| 18:13.27 | brlcad | cbg's in a ton of channels, it could be any of them |
| 18:13.58 | brlcad | the tor "idiot" from earlier shows the exploit |
| 18:14.02 | L4m3r | no, it's someone using tor by the name of "idiot" on ##pm |
| 18:14.04 | brlcad | he needs to upgrade his firmware |
| 18:16.28 | [NP]Tangent | heh, something that gets Norton people... some Norton software will close a connection when it detects the words "startkeylogger" |
| 18:16.32 | brlcad | or connect to a different port, whatever |
| 18:16.37 | ruskie | :) |
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| 18:24.40 | Tropican8 | I posted my part choices for my new machine in [chat], I think you should all take a look. |
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| 18:51.53 | [NP]Tangent | hey, in my map, how do I tell it to send the flags back to the base when they're dropped on an invalid place |
| 18:53.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!CBG@*] by brlcad |
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| 18:54.06 | brlcad | hrm |
| 18:54.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!CBG@*] by brlcad |
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| 18:55.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *CBG*!*CBG*@*] by brlcad |
| 18:55.57 | gsnedders | doesn't idiot deserve a ban as well? |
| 19:03.32 | ruskie | lol |
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| 19:05.27 | [NP]Tangent | grr, I need these flags to go to the base in this map |
| 19:07.49 | brad | use a zone.. it's all in the wiki |
| 19:08.08 | brad | you'll need a "safe zone" I think |
| 19:15.36 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 19:15.38 | [NP]Tangent | I'll look it up |
| 19:15.45 | [NP]Tangent | been searching forums and haven't found anything |
| 19:29.37 | [NP]Tangent | ah, sweet |
| 19:29.39 | [NP]Tangent | works |
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| 20:07.26 | JeffM2501 | who the hell pulled the normal download links from the wiki for 2.0.8 |
| 20:07.32 | JeffM2501 | who does that obilisk thingy? |
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| 20:12.30 | [NP]Tangent | I hate that obilisk thingy |
| 20:13.29 | [NP]Tangent | my host needs to wake up |
| 20:13.33 | [NP]Tangent | I need him to recompile bzfs |
| 20:13.37 | [NP]Tangent | with --enable-shared |
| 20:13.39 | I_Died_Once | oblisk is great if you aint got a compiler |
| 20:13.40 | JeffM2501 | I don't mind it, but it can't replace the other downloads |
| 20:13.54 | [NP]Tangent | compiling > oblisk |
| 20:13.57 | JeffM2501 | and it also needs to be shown that it is not an oficial release |
| 20:14.14 | JeffM2501 | unless he'd like to commit the stuff to build it, then we can make it part of the standard builds. |
| 20:14.25 | I_Died_Once | true, compiling is greated than oblisk... but if yuo can't compile (for whatever reason) its better than doing without |
| 20:14.44 | blast007 | plus if we had it, we could test it better |
| 20:14.51 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 20:16.21 | A-Delusion | The intel-mac cersion posted here, has been changed so it is not X-11 dependent http://eidotter.de/~alexx/bzflag/ |
| 20:16.47 | JeffM2501 | we saw |
| 20:16.59 | A-Delusion | last night I tested BZFS and bzadmin.. worked fine except no plugins |
| 20:17.22 | JeffM2501 | do you have to make any changes to the code or build system to make it work? |
| 20:18.24 | A-Delusion | for SDL you need to move the libs to the correct library |
| 20:18.48 | JeffM2501 | that's a config on your side |
| 20:18.50 | JeffM2501 | not in our code |
| 20:18.52 | A-Delusion | then symlink like ./configure --with-sdl-prefix=/Users/delusional/local |
| 20:18.54 | brlcad | hmm.. the existing 2.0.8 shouldn't be x11 dependant.. |
| 20:18.57 | JeffM2501 | do you have to change anything on OUR side? |
| 20:19.07 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, his SDL probalby is |
| 20:19.11 | brlcad | in fact, the libs aren't even on that system that built it |
| 20:19.15 | A-Delusion | for 2.1 there's nothing special need to be done |
| 20:19.37 | DTRemenak | brlcad: they're talking about a fellow who was doing intel-mac compiles |
| 20:19.42 | brlcad | ahh |
| 20:19.49 | DTRemenak | yours are fine, his were broken :) |
| 20:19.54 | brlcad | gotya |
| 20:19.58 | I_Died_Once | if you get no plugins... try adding the flag --enable-plugins to the ./configure |
| 20:19.59 | A-Delusion | fixed now |
| 20:20.17 | A-Delusion | is --enable shared the same thing, or not? |
| 20:20.24 | I_Died_Once | i do both |
| 20:20.31 | I_Died_Once | not sure, but what the hey |
| 20:20.32 | brlcad | A-Delusion: depends which version your talking about |
| 20:20.41 | brlcad | it's been both |
| 20:20.54 | brlcad | for 2.1 and forward it's supposed to be --enable-plugins |
| 20:21.07 | brlcad | for earlier, just use both |
| 20:21.10 | A-Delusion | that's useful info |
| 20:21.15 | I_Died_Once | how about --enable-all |
| 20:21.26 | brlcad | no such option exists |
| 20:23.10 | I_Died_Once | --disable-OMFG-WTF-LOL |
| 20:23.22 | DTRemenak | ponies! |
| 20:23.51 | A-Delusion | ./configure --with-sdl-prefix=/Users/delusional/local --enable-plugins --enable shared |
| 20:24.02 | A-Delusion | that's what my configure will look like |
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| 20:24.48 | A-Delusion | getting SDL configured correctly drove me nuts.. I'd try to fix it and make it worse. |
| 20:30.32 | ruskie | another naughty player added to the list... |
| 20:30.45 | I_Died_Once | which list? |
| 20:30.50 | ruskie | personal :) |
| 20:31.09 | ruskie | the one I'll reveal at end of summer along with my identity :) |
| 20:32.35 | I_Died_Once | http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/dead3y3/owned.jpg |
| 20:32.43 | ruskie | so far I've been called loser and idiot and someone threathened to cap our flag if I don't release their team flag... while teams were uneven for my side... |
| 20:32.49 | ruskie | and have some others as well |
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| 20:33.34 | I_Died_Once | I keep getting accused of cheating when I get on top of the corner pyramids on MoFo with GM |
| 20:33.54 | TheRedBaron | I_Died_Once: yay! |
| 20:33.56 | I_Died_Once | I ought to post and disclose how to get up there |
| 20:34.00 | TheRedBaron | no |
| 20:34.10 | TheRedBaron | let them figure it out |
| 20:34.12 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 20:34.23 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *CBG*!*CBG*@*] by DTRemenak |
| 20:34.25 | TheRedBaron | if they are lame enough to call one a cheater, instead of tryign to figure it out by themselves |
| 20:34.29 | TheRedBaron | they dont' deserve a handout |
| 20:34.43 | DTRemenak | (he's fixed) |
| 20:34.48 | ruskie | :) |
| 20:34.53 | TheRedBaron | if some one asks you how, then freely tell them how |
| 20:34.57 | I_Died_Once | yeah but it aint cool when a server owner is constantly accused of cheating, by multiple people |
| 20:35.04 | ruskie | lol |
| 20:35.06 | TheRedBaron | I_Died_Once: I know the feeling |
| 20:35.09 | ruskie | I get that a few times |
| 20:35.28 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once: ban 'em :) |
| 20:35.29 | ruskie | they just can't accept that there's a thousnad littel tricks |
| 20:35.56 | TheRedBaron | yup |
| 20:36.16 | ruskie | I GM'ed one under the base in vipers... |
| 20:36.24 | ruskie | he was trying to hide under the bridge in mid-level |
| 20:36.29 | ruskie | and he goes like HOW??? |
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| 20:40.49 | [NP]Tangent | YES |
| 20:40.53 | [NP]Tangent | about time my host woke up |
| 20:41.54 | [NP]Tangent | this means I can use plugins when he does his root access stuff |
| 20:43.13 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: remember what I was saying about the play-by-play's? :) |
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| 20:43.37 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 20:43.38 | [NP]Tangent | ehem |
| 20:43.42 | [NP]Tangent | I thought you'd like to know |
| 20:43.42 | [NP]Tangent | :x |
| 20:43.45 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:45.06 | [NP]Tangent | people actually like my server |
| 20:45.10 | [NP]Tangent | that surprises me |
| 20:45.20 | [NP]Tangent | I'm usually supposed to fail on the first one |
| 20:45.23 | [NP]Tangent | not have a success |
| 20:45.28 | [NP]Tangent | now I'm all confused |
| 20:45.48 | A-Delusion | if you are nice to people, they'll usually come back, the trick is to make it last. |
| 20:46.28 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 20:46.36 | [NP]Tangent | I've got a few guys already who show up often |
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| 20:48.17 | I_Died_Once | NO ONE was more surprised than I was when my server took off |
| 20:48.31 | Gnurdux | I_Died_Once, that was MoFo? |
| 20:48.36 | I_Died_Once | yeah |
| 20:48.42 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, what server is yours? |
| 20:48.57 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, btw you should get an SSH account with your host |
| 20:49.03 | [NP]Tangent | I do have an ssh account |
| 20:49.07 | [NP]Tangent | I can't compile on it though |
| 20:49.08 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once: it did not surprise me that it took off. it surprised me that it stayed popular |
| 20:49.15 | CBG | heh |
| 20:49.26 | DTRemenak | I figured it was a surefire fad thing |
| 20:49.33 | [NP]Tangent | I run the Null Productions CTF Playground server |
| 20:49.44 | [NP]Tangent | it's offline while we run our recompile, but it'll be back up in a little bit |
| 20:50.10 | I_Died_Once | I wish I could nudge some of that to the CTF game... thats my personal favorite |
| 20:50.47 | ruskie | hmm never been on mofo |
| 20:51.18 | I_Died_Once | you ain't missing nothin |
| 20:51.21 | ruskie | where's the server geographicaly? |
| 20:51.27 | I_Died_Once | high powered chaos |
| 20:51.36 | I_Died_Once | thats a good question... |
| 20:51.48 | I_Died_Once | i started out hosting it on my home connection, in Savannah, Ga |
| 20:52.07 | I_Died_Once | one of my admins put it on a big pipe copnnection, adn i have no clue where it is, geographically |
| 20:52.21 | A-Delusion | San Francisco |
| 20:52.26 | ruskie | big pipe doesn't help me :) I get 250ms lag+ to us... |
| 20:52.27 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, whos your host? |
| 20:52.35 | Gnurdux | and whats your map? |
| 20:52.35 | [NP]Tangent | Mini-Host |
| 20:52.39 | Gnurdux | and why cant you compile on it? |
| 20:52.41 | [NP]Tangent | I'm using the map that I made |
| 20:52.49 | [NP]Tangent | I can't compile on my ssh because my host set it that way |
| 20:52.53 | ruskie | hmm this summer I'll finish my labyrinth map... |
| 20:53.05 | [NP]Tangent | I'd love a labyrinth map |
| 20:53.09 | A-Delusion | sounds convoluted |
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| 20:54.50 | CBG | Note: I won't be on IRC for a few days. You can probably contact me via PM on BZBB. |
| 20:55.14 | ruskie | [NP]Tangent, it's almost done just needs all the traps and some polish |
| 20:55.32 | ruskie | it'll be a ctf, ffa, and possibly others as well :) |
| 20:55.39 | [NP]Tangent | haha |
| 20:55.40 | [NP]Tangent | nice |
| 20:55.46 | ruskie | and confusing as hell |
| 20:55.50 | ruskie | no radar |
| 20:56.11 | ruskie | thogh even if I left radar in it wouldn't help much |
| 20:56.23 | ruskie | all the 3 levels blend into one |
| 20:56.23 | [NP]Tangent | I'd like to make a maze map |
| 20:56.30 | [NP]Tangent | or something where every wall is a teleport |
| 20:56.41 | ruskie | hall of mirrors :) |
| 20:56.59 | [NP]Tangent | or it would just send you to random places |
| 20:57.07 | ruskie | but teleportes would have to be near to invisible... |
| 20:57.15 | ruskie | to have a good effect |
| 20:57.17 | [NP]Tangent | that would rock |
| 20:57.32 | ruskie | like you see someone coming through and you shoot and nothing happens |
| 20:58.32 | ruskie | I'll have teleporters in walls and pits with spikes, geno world weapon, sw mines, lasers :) |
| 20:59.00 | [NP]Tangent | geno world weapon |
| 20:59.10 | [NP]Tangent | I was considering one of those in my map |
| 20:59.10 | ruskie | ohh and no clear way to reach other levels :) |
| 20:59.18 | [NP]Tangent | you know how silvercat has the SW on the base when you cap? |
| 20:59.21 | ruskie | I'll put it in the flag safe zone :) |
| 20:59.23 | ruskie | yup |
| 20:59.25 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 20:59.34 | [NP]Tangent | put a geno in instead |
| 20:59.38 | [NP]Tangent | in like 4 places |
| 20:59.46 | [NP]Tangent | so if they don't watch out |
| 20:59.46 | [NP]Tangent | bam |
| 20:59.47 | [NP]Tangent | both teams are gone |
| 20:59.48 | ruskie | lol |
| 20:59.58 | ruskie | nice idea... |
| 21:00.01 | [NP]Tangent | it would work really well in my map |
| 21:00.07 | [NP]Tangent | because the bases are in a tunnel |
| 21:00.16 | ruskie | ahh easy to camp :) |
| 21:00.16 | [NP]Tangent | like |
| 21:00.17 | [NP]Tangent | a room |
| 21:00.46 | [NP]Tangent | I like how I can fire a laser from one tunnel to inside the other, thus wiping out all of the people in the opposite tunnel |
| 21:00.54 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:01.04 | ruskie | that sounds campers paradise |
| 21:01.32 | [NP]Tangent | it's alright |
| 21:01.41 | [NP]Tangent | getting on top of the fortresses takes a little while |
| 21:02.15 | ruskie | but I mean obssessive campers... also flag abusers... |
| 21:02.24 | ruskie | I don't mean a camper onec in a while... |
| 21:02.34 | ruskie | but I keep seeing 3 same ppl getting on our base ALL the time |
| 21:02.37 | ruskie | they die and come back |
| 21:02.48 | ruskie | can ussualy get quite some score from those :) |
| 21:03.11 | [NP]Tangent | on my map, camping on top of a fortress with a laser is the way to go |
| 21:03.29 | L4m3r | then your map won't be much fun... :P |
| 21:03.29 | [NP]Tangent | you can't fire a regular shot or a GM across to hit other people |
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| 21:03.31 | [NP]Tangent | just a laser |
| 21:03.46 | [NP]Tangent | and even then, some good aim is required |
| 21:03.50 | L4m3r | or it could be the next smash hit, like boxy war. you never really know... players are dumb sometimes |
| 21:03.58 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:03.58 | [NP]Tangent | I had a guy hit someone from opposite corners |
| 21:04.03 | [NP]Tangent | way far in the corners |
| 21:04.05 | [NP]Tangent | with a laser |
| 21:04.17 | [NP]Tangent | longest laser shot I've seen so far |
| 21:04.18 | ruskie | me with a laser on viper... and the mid wall stays clear 90% of the time... |
| 21:04.36 | ruskie | and I'm only on own base :) |
| 21:05.48 | ruskie | I especialy LOVE shotting down flying monkeys... |
| 21:06.04 | ruskie | especialy when they're still far far away... |
| 21:06.14 | ruskie | like just taking off their bridge or base :) |
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| 21:07.49 | [NP]Tangent | hah |
| 21:07.58 | [NP]Tangent | the fortresses are 101 units high |
| 21:08.03 | [NP]Tangent | lots of time to hit jumpers |
| 21:08.10 | [NP]Tangent | unless they climb down through the fortress |
| 21:08.58 | L4m3r | my map in progress has lofted bases... |
| 21:09.17 | L4m3r | iirc the base floor is at 120 and it's 60 units high >_> |
| 21:09.43 | L4m3r | I had to make some drop physics so you could get down without being shot, lol |
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| 21:12.53 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 21:12.53 | [NP]Tangent | my server's back up |
| 21:13.11 | [NP]Tangent | Gnurdux, you can connect to nullbzflag.abacionline.com port 5154 |
| 21:15.07 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, a meteorites server's been the current fad tho |
| 21:15.26 | [NP]Tangent | I've been getting kinda busy on my server |
| 21:15.28 | [NP]Tangent | strange |
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| 21:37.27 | brad | question.... when you do /gameover why does it say you won the game? shouldn't it say you ended the game or something like that? |
| 21:46.54 | Gnurdux | brad, because it sends a MsgScoreOver message |
| 21:47.03 | brad | and..? |
| 21:47.20 | Gnurdux | thats the same message that is used for like -mps and -mts |
| 21:47.48 | brad | well seeing stuff like "brad (observer) won the game" is a bit stupid |
| 21:47.49 | blast007 | Gnurdux: still, it could be smart enough to determine who has won the game ;) |
| 21:48.08 | Gnurdux | and if i win through -mts then i WON |
| 21:48.10 | Gnurdux | brad, true |
| 21:48.32 | Gnurdux | brad, it shouldnt be hard to make it not send a winner |
| 21:49.31 | blast007 | it should send the winner as the one who was closest to winning |
| 21:49.45 | brad | right |
| 21:51.35 | orange | just make it always say "orange won the game" and that'll help |
| 21:52.20 | brad | heh |
| 21:52.30 | DTRemenak | patches welcome |
| 21:52.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o DTRemenak] by DTRemenak |
| 21:52.37 | orange | I think I can write that one ;-) |
| 21:52.40 | brad | where have I heard that before |
| 21:52.56 | DTRemenak | orange: someone might accidentally commit it... ;) |
| 21:53.03 | DTRemenak | with a little typo changed of course |
| 21:53.14 | orange | col |
| 21:53.14 | DTRemenak | s/orange/DTRemenak/ |
| 21:53.26 | orange | can't say lol or purple_cow gets mad :-) |
| 21:53.54 | DTRemenak | yeah, and you don't want angry purple cows now, do you... |
| 21:54.00 | orange | no, that's a scary thought |
| 21:56.15 | purple_cow | there's a reason why i'm called "the fist" |
| 21:56.29 | orange | "the hoof" |
| 21:57.05 | orange | and I did a col earlier... chuckle out loud, which I think is a little better, yes? |
| 21:57.42 | purple_cow | i only really care about it when people stick it in sentences where it doesn't make sense |
| 21:57.57 | orange | yeah, I agree in general |
| 21:58.03 | orange | though my reaction is usually less violent ;-) |
| 21:58.04 | purple_cow | using it as a response to something is acceptable |
| 21:58.11 | purple_cow | don't even get me started about "lolol" |
| 21:58.48 | DTRemenak | "lolol"? wtf does that mean? |
| 21:59.05 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: exactly |
| 21:59.10 | DTRemenak | ah, gotcha |
| 21:59.13 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, "I'm an idiot" |
| 21:59.58 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 22:00.01 | [NP]Tangent | it's like |
| 22:00.14 | [NP]Tangent | "my brother just got shot! lol!" |
| 22:00.19 | [NP]Tangent | that would be bad use of lol |
| 22:00.37 | JeffM2501 | not in quake |
| 22:00.39 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: or saying 'lol' after what you said |
| 22:00.54 | [NP]Tangent | "poop" |
| 22:00.57 | [NP]Tangent | "lol!" |
| 22:01.04 | [NP]Tangent | "..." |
| 22:05.25 | orange | (sorry, didn't mean to start this up again :-/ ) |
| 22:05.48 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 22:05.51 | [NP]Tangent | nice going, orange |
| 22:05.55 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 22:06.53 | Birdie | lol;) |
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