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| 00:14.34 | trepan | orchid: hardly seems worth the typing at this point ;) |
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| 00:58.19 | purple_cow | brlcad: does your hotel offer for siggraph still stand? :) |
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| 14:56.13 | ruskie | ~bzquery viper.pmipi.org:5159 |
| 14:56.18 | ruskie | ~bzquery viper.pimpi.org:5159 |
| 14:56.41 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5159 |
| 14:56.51 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper2.pimpi.org:5159 |
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| 14:57.17 | ruskie | Manu, Pimpi something wrong with viper? |
| 14:57.35 | ruskie | I was playing with others and suddenly all went nr |
| 14:57.38 | ruskie | and now can't reconn |
| 14:57.42 | Manu | wait |
| 15:00.01 | Manu | ruskie: running again |
| 15:07.57 | Pimpi | Manu: crashed? |
| 15:08.13 | Pimpi | or just buggy connection? |
| 15:13.13 | Manu | Pimpi: yes |
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| 18:31.27 | SportyGal | ~sushi brlcad |
| 18:31.28 | ibot | ACTION fishes madly all day long & brings the very best back, filets it carefully and serves brlcad the best, freshest sushi ever |
| 18:37.58 | A_Meteorite | ewww... sushi :P |
| 18:44.31 | BenUrban | ~fishslap brlcad |
| 18:44.32 | ibot | ACTION slaps brlcad up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:44.44 | A_Meteorite | That's even grosser... |
| 18:44.48 | A_Meteorite | ~lart brlcad |
| 18:45.11 | A_Meteorite | Um. Is that even a sentence? |
| 18:48.06 | SportyGal | sure :) |
| 18:49.00 | blast007 | it shur be! |
| 18:49.20 | A_Meteorite | Uhhh... than I must of failed in grammar class. ;) |
| 18:49.49 | blast007 | Criminity |
| 18:52.25 | JeffM2501 | mm fish |
| 18:55.00 | JeffM2501 | yay for the super magic windows boot CD :) |
| 18:55.59 | A_Meteorite | Super magic Windows Boot CD? Sounds like a deck of cards falling in a pile. |
| 18:56.05 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:56.05 | A_Meteorite | j/k :P |
| 18:56.21 | JeffM2501 | it's a recovery tool that books a machine to minimal XP and lets you get back lost data |
| 18:56.31 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 18:56.39 | A_Meteorite | is it made by MS? |
| 18:56.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:56.50 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 18:57.24 | JeffM2501 | MS dosn't make all things |
| 18:57.27 | JeffM2501 | why would they |
| 18:57.44 | A_Meteorite | to make more money? :) |
| 18:58.11 | JeffM2501 | at some ooint it becomes diminishing returns |
| 18:58.16 | A_Meteorite | "here's a CD to fix Windows when you break it, $20 please" |
| 18:58.23 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 18:58.27 | JeffM2501 | this dosn't "fix" windows |
| 18:58.36 | JeffM2501 | the normal windows boot disk does that |
| 18:58.45 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 18:58.50 | JeffM2501 | this lets you get data back from bad disks |
| 18:59.09 | A_Meteorite | "here's a CD so when you hard drive fails" how's that? :) |
| 18:59.11 | JeffM2501 | or get into systems you don't have the passwords for |
| 19:00.05 | blast007 | JeffM2501: is it just a Bart CD? |
| 19:00.14 | JeffM2501 | I don't know what bart is |
| 19:00.16 | JeffM2501 | ERD comander |
| 19:00.20 | JeffM2501 | 2005 |
| 19:02.55 | blast007 | http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ |
| 19:03.19 | blast007 | lets you build a custom bootable XP install |
| 19:03.25 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:03.31 | blast007 | so you can add stuff like virus scanners and network drivers |
| 19:03.32 | JeffM2501 | mostly I needed the disk recovery stuff |
| 19:03.36 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:03.39 | JeffM2501 | basicly drive says it's not a drive |
| 19:03.44 | JeffM2501 | has all our media on it |
| 19:03.53 | JeffM2501 | ERD comander found it all and will copy to another drive for us |
| 19:04.00 | blast007 | I have a few drives like that at home...due to heat :) |
| 19:04.11 | JeffM2501 | drive is fine |
| 19:04.21 | JeffM2501 | old OS drive it was in went poot |
| 19:04.26 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:04.29 | JeffM2501 | new OS install on a new drive won't see the old media drive |
| 19:05.02 | blast007 | hmm |
| 19:05.25 | JeffM2501 | was done as a dynamic volume so it was tied to the OS install |
| 19:05.31 | blast007 | ah, yeah |
| 19:05.48 | blast007 | friend of mine had a real challenge with a dynamic drive before |
| 19:05.57 | JeffM2501 | so we are just geting the data off, and going for a new install, on a new OS drive, then put the data back on a reformated 200 |
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| 20:02.48 | plasma_kaz | ~seen brad |
| 20:03.00 | ibot | brad is currently on #botpark (1d 19h 44m 30s) #bzflag (1d 19h 44m 30s) #kierra (1d 19h 44m 30s) #pillbox (1d 19h 44m 30s) ##ducleague (1d 19h 44m 30s) #silvercat (1d 19h 44m 30s) #guleague (1d 19h 44m 30s) #bzmods (1d 19h 44m 30s) ##essy (1d 19h 44m 30s). Has said a total of 81 messages. Is ... |
| 20:12.07 | gsnedders | comments on definition of base camping: "anywhere from where you can shoot people spawning on their base" |
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| 20:21.47 | ruskie | gsnedders, AYE |
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| 20:34.34 | Gnurdux | hi Tropican8 |
| 20:34.44 | Tropican8 | Hey gnu |
| 20:35.17 | Tropican8 | My computer's fried lol, I'm on a piece of garbage right now... |
| 20:35.24 | Gnurdux | how did it die? |
| 20:36.00 | Tropican8 | Not well... |
| 20:36.14 | [NP]Tangent | it all started when he put in the WinXP disc... |
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| 20:37.23 | Tropican8 | lol that's actually not far off, I was attacked by a worm 5 minutes into booting xp. Combined with the overheats and stuff (separate issue) everything's toast on it=software and hardware |
| 20:37.41 | [NP]Tangent | :o |
| 20:37.45 | [NP]Tangent | terrible stuff |
| 20:37.53 | [NP]Tangent | that's why I'm sensible and use linux now |
| 20:37.54 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 20:38.13 | Tropican8 | as I said, I was only in there for 5 minutes, usually use Debian :-) |
| 20:38.25 | [NP]Tangent | I use Ubuntu |
| 20:39.28 | Tropican8 | Anyway I can't decide if I'm gonna buy or build something now, building doesn't seem as cost effective as it used to be |
| 20:40.03 | [NP]Tangent | I'd probably build if it's a desktop |
| 20:40.16 | TheRedBaron | i dont' understand it... |
| 20:40.33 | TheRedBaron | what is with you linux guys, and window's disasters? |
| 20:40.48 | TheRedBaron | I've run windows since 3.1 and I dont' encounter such disasters |
| 20:40.52 | Tropican8 | Well we spend less time maintaining windows, so b00m |
| 20:41.43 | [NP]Tangent | TheRedBaron, I've never had a windows disaster |
| 20:41.46 | [NP]Tangent | I just like Linux better |
| 20:42.10 | Tropican8 | TheRedBaron: This is my first :-( |
| 20:42.32 | L4m3r | I've fixed countless... |
| 20:42.42 | L4m3r | only a couple of my own |
| 20:43.04 | L4m3r | I hate it when you can get trojans from something as asinine as a banner ad... |
| 20:43.30 | Tropican8 | Well whatever I got I can't even get into my BIOS setup..... |
| 20:45.12 | L4m3r | god damn, why does no one have @ on the lesbianbath server? |
| 20:45.23 | TheRedBaron | *blinkage* |
| 20:45.54 | L4m3r | and Gnurdux seems to be running a second Norang |
| 20:46.07 | Gnurdux | hehe, but with more lag |
| 20:46.20 | L4m3r | heh |
| 20:46.23 | Gnurdux | and only until my ISP finds out |
| 20:46.44 | L4m3r | Norang ran a neat script for that, you should ask thumper for it |
| 20:47.00 | Gnurdux | script for what L4m3r ? |
| 20:47.25 | L4m3r | he said that he had it set up so that if one server got 10+ people on it, the idle ones would shut off |
| 20:47.37 | Gnurdux | hmmm |
| 20:47.57 | Gnurdux | thats not much of an issue here |
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| 21:13.24 | sussi | Match MatchMatch |
| 21:13.48 | L4m3r | sorry, II use a zippo |
| 21:14.36 | sussi | omg |
| 21:15.18 | Mr_Molez | matches suck |
| 21:15.20 | Mr_Molez | get a lighter |
| 21:15.27 | L4m3r | :) |
| 21:15.49 | L4m3r | hahaha |
| 21:17.22 | blast007 | heh |
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| 22:21.52 | ruskie | hmm when one is being TH'ed one should get a warning of somekind... |
| 22:36.56 | Mr_Molez | are there any cheats that will stop people picking up team flags momentarily ? |
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| 22:50.42 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: Is there a way to unload a plugin from the plugin itself? |
| 22:50.53 | A_Meteorite | bz_Unload() wouldn't even compile |
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| 22:51.12 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, whats the issue? |
| 22:51.36 | A_Meteorite | I want to unload a plugin if it encouters a fatal error - like not being able to connect to a MySQL DB. |
| 22:51.45 | Gnurdux | thats not fatal |
| 22:51.55 | A_Meteorite | If it can't connect the plugin has no use being loaded. |
| 22:52.00 | Gnurdux | what if the mysql server is temporarily down? |
| 22:52.12 | Gnurdux | and what if it goes down while plugin is in progress |
| 22:52.18 | Gnurdux | should it need to be reloaded? |
| 22:52.20 | A_Meteorite | Hmmm that's a thought |
| 22:52.25 | Gnurdux | what oyu hsould do is retry each tick mark |
| 22:52.53 | A_Meteorite | ahh, I can try pinging it and if it returns false it'll re-connect |
| 22:53.02 | Gnurdux | on next tick mark |
| 22:53.02 | A_Meteorite | sounds good :) |
| 22:53.04 | Gnurdux | yea |
| 22:53.05 | Gnurdux | :) |
| 22:53.54 | Gnurdux | what plugin is this A_Meteorite ? |
| 22:54.00 | A_Meteorite | Stats |
| 22:54.02 | A_Meteorite | for BZFX |
| 22:54.12 | Gnurdux | is it based on theme97s? |
| 22:54.16 | A_Meteorite | No |
| 22:54.25 | A_Meteorite | playerlist, aka Mr. MoFo |
| 22:54.25 | Gnurdux | how much code does it have? |
| 22:54.27 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 22:54.30 | Gnurdux | its that one |
| 22:54.38 | A_Meteorite | it's feature complete except for MySQL |
| 22:54.52 | A_Meteorite | it's the same amount of work as if I did it in PHP |
| 22:54.53 | Gnurdux | oh yea you did find and replace for stats.. .or i did or i told you to or somethin |
| 22:54.56 | A_Meteorite | but this will be certainly faster |
| 22:54.57 | Gnurdux | hmm |
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| 22:55.02 | Gnurdux | can i have the code? |
| 22:55.12 | A_Meteorite | what for? when I'm done? |
| 22:55.18 | Gnurdux | i dunno |
| 22:55.21 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 22:55.23 | Gnurdux | im thinking, why MySQL? |
| 22:55.29 | A_Meteorite | to store info |
| 22:55.32 | Gnurdux | take a look at SQLit |
| 22:55.32 | Gnurdux | e |
| 22:55.34 | A_Meteorite | and display it on a web-site |
| 22:55.43 | A_Meteorite | I didn't want SQLite because of locking issues |
| 22:56.08 | A_Meteorite | but it's not too late to change it |
| 22:56.27 | A_Meteorite | all I did was link mysql and get it to connect and set it's status to on |
| 22:56.41 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 22:56.46 | Gnurdux | thats another thing thats not good |
| 22:56.52 | Gnurdux | set it's status to on |
| 22:57.00 | A_Meteorite | Why isn't that good? |
| 22:57.06 | Gnurdux | what if server dies |
| 22:57.11 | Gnurdux | how does it get unset? |
| 22:57.12 | A_Meteorite | it'll set itself off |
| 22:57.19 | Gnurdux | what if comp crashes |
| 22:57.19 | A_Meteorite | in bz_Unload |
| 22:57.27 | A_Meteorite | then I do it on the web-site |
| 22:57.30 | Gnurdux | so bz_Unload never gets called |
| 22:57.32 | A_Meteorite | nothing is fool-proof |
| 22:57.39 | Gnurdux | a better way to check status: |
| 22:57.42 | Gnurdux | ping hte server |
| 22:57.49 | Gnurdux | try connecting |
| 22:57.54 | Gnurdux | if its there, its up |
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| 22:57.56 | A_Meteorite | I don't want to do that on every PHP load |
| 22:57.59 | A_Meteorite | *page load |
| 22:58.10 | Gnurdux | so have a background process |
| 22:58.30 | A_Meteorite | the server won't normally die, and if it does the servers will restart when it turns back on |
| 22:58.41 | Gnurdux | still |
| 22:58.57 | Gnurdux | MySQL is a good way to do it tho |
| 22:59.16 | Gnurdux | whats the locking issue with sqlite? |
| 22:59.17 | A_Meteorite | that's why I picked it :D |
| 22:59.23 | A_Meteorite | SQLite is file-based |
| 22:59.31 | A_Meteorite | only one thing can do something with it at a time |
| 22:59.39 | Gnurdux | hmm i see your point |
| 22:59.51 | Gnurdux | well if you can't open it, you retry at next tick |
| 22:59.51 | A_Meteorite | and if I got 20 servers polling a database on a tick event |
| 22:59.53 | A_Meteorite | that's bad |
| 23:00.27 | A_Meteorite | MySQL will handle it fine, I've heard people doing hundreds of querys a minute |
| 23:00.29 | Gnurdux | only poll every few tick events |
| 23:00.45 | A_Meteorite | nah, I want to be ahead of m.b.o |
| 23:00.48 | A_Meteorite | every minute |
| 23:00.57 | Gnurdux | m.b.o? |
| 23:01.02 | A_Meteorite | my.bzflag.org |
| 23:01.05 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, no, nto realy |
| 23:01.07 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 23:01.18 | A_Meteorite | not really about what part? :) |
| 23:01.28 | JeffM2501 | not with out the dtr super hack, and that could be bad if you unloaded yourself while running |
| 23:01.31 | JeffM2501 | unloading a pling |
| 23:01.37 | JeffM2501 | plugin |
| 23:01.44 | JeffM2501 | they arn't realy made to kill themselves |
| 23:01.48 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 23:01.49 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 23:02.12 | A_Meteorite | I'll just have to check the connection every tick and try re-connecting if it didn't connect |
| 23:02.19 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, every minute.... thee are like 100 ticks a minute |
| 23:02.26 | JeffM2501 | cus if you unloaded it in a function, how would you return to the plugin after the function ran :) |
| 23:02.33 | A_Meteorite | heh, true |
| 23:02.36 | L4m3r | could you make a second "master" plugin that could kill other plugins? |
| 23:02.43 | Gnurdux | do it like exit() function |
| 23:02.50 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, posibly using the dtr method |
| 23:02.56 | JeffM2501 | basicly you just can't kill yourself |
| 23:02.58 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux, it only does a tick every 60 seconds |
| 23:03.07 | A_Meteorite | and where is the dtr method? |
| 23:03.16 | JeffM2501 | the bzcron |
| 23:03.19 | JeffM2501 | it's "wacky" |
| 23:03.38 | JeffM2501 | basicly your plugin fires up a micro bzadmin and logs into the server ;) |
| 23:03.39 | L4m3r | there HAS to be a better way to fake a command... |
| 23:03.47 | A_Meteorite | iick |
| 23:03.53 | A_Meteorite | that's ugly :) |
| 23:03.54 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, there is, it' just takes a lot more work |
| 23:03.58 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, yes |
| 23:04.09 | JeffM2501 | all the /commands assume a player record |
| 23:04.15 | JeffM2501 | so that needs a login |
| 23:04.22 | JeffM2501 | and a slot asigned to it |
| 23:04.22 | L4m3r | yeah, I looked at that |
| 23:04.41 | JeffM2501 | the better way is to make the functions the /commands call callable by the API directly |
| 23:04.46 | JeffM2501 | and not use a player record |
| 23:05.01 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 23:05.07 | JeffM2501 | then the /commands and the plugins are just users of the same API |
| 23:05.18 | A_Meteorite | I wonder if there'll be a time we can do internal bzfs stuff (that is supported) |
| 23:05.23 | L4m3r | that'd let you eliminate most of the current API functions too |
| 23:05.26 | A_Meteorite | instead of stone-set api |
| 23:05.42 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, I'd like to see all of bzfs use one API |
| 23:05.43 | L4m3r | that's what source modding is for... |
| 23:05.54 | A_Meteorite | but, you can do that now if you include one of bzfs' header files |
| 23:05.55 | JeffM2501 | then internal functions are just plugins that run inside |
| 23:06.09 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, not on windows |
| 23:06.25 | A_Meteorite | heh, well I don't try to even compiled on windows |
| 23:06.57 | JeffM2501 | if your using stuff that isn't exported in bzfsAPI.h then it ain't ever gonna work on windows |
| 23:07.09 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 23:07.13 | A_Meteorite | yikes |
| 23:07.24 | JeffM2501 | and the point of the set in stone API is so that we can change the guts and not the plugins |
| 23:07.35 | JeffM2501 | if somone changes the internals you use, you are screwed on any OS |
| 23:07.36 | A_Meteorite | is it windows' fault, bzfs' fault, or *nix's fault? :) |
| 23:07.47 | JeffM2501 | they just work difrently |
| 23:07.56 | JeffM2501 | on windows you only have access to what you export |
| 23:08.00 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 23:08.01 | JeffM2501 | linux lets you link to anything |
| 23:08.05 | JeffM2501 | it can be good |
| 23:08.07 | JeffM2501 | it can be bad |
| 23:08.12 | JeffM2501 | name confilcts on linux are easy |
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| 23:10.40 | JeffM2501 | but the point of the API is to isolate the plugins from the internals |
| 23:10.44 | JeffM2501 | so the internals can change |
| 23:10.53 | JeffM2501 | if you want to just use the internals then mod bzfs |
| 23:10.54 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 23:10.58 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 23:11.13 | JeffM2501 | now the API does need to do more things |
| 23:11.24 | JeffM2501 | it "should" do all logical things the server does |
| 23:11.25 | A_Meteorite | yes, much more |
| 23:11.26 | trepan | JeffM2501: you can control gcc's exporting behaviour |
| 23:11.32 | JeffM2501 | trepan, cool |
| 23:11.39 | JeffM2501 | wonder why brlcad didn't then |
| 23:12.19 | trepan | sry, different for different bin types, ELF format is pretty good for it (linux default) |
| 23:13.26 | trepan | and ... "linux lets you link to anything, _global_" |
| 23:13.29 | JeffM2501 | you could go the lightwave way and make bzfs just a thin framework and every feature is then efectivly a plugin |
| 23:13.46 | JeffM2501 | offers max flexability |
| 23:13.47 | trepan | it's a matter of using static properly, and having the C standard and its friends defaulting to global |
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| 23:14.14 | trepan | mandatory "global" keyword would be better ;) |
| 23:15.00 | trepan | JeffM2501: bzfz meets the HURD |
| 23:15.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:15.27 | JeffM2501 | didn't say it would be fast ;) |
| 23:15.31 | JeffM2501 | just felxable |
| 23:16.08 | trepan | depends on the granularity, as you've probably noted from playing with torque |
| 23:16.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:16.43 | JeffM2501 | tho they don't link to C++ stuff, just to there own language |
| 23:17.15 | JeffM2501 | so they have a little more controll |
| 23:17.29 | JeffM2501 | leting the script derive off and use C++ classes is prety cool tho |
| 23:17.33 | trepan | quake did something like that |
| 23:17.50 | trepan | bunnch of others use lua/python/etc... to the same effect |
| 23:18.07 | ryanakca | anyone know how to get rid of the hanging at exit? (on linux, with 2.0.8) |
| 23:18.12 | JeffM2501 | it's not a bad system |
| 23:18.14 | ryanakca | as well as 2.0.4 |
| 23:18.29 | trepan | ryanakca: ./configure --enable-debug |
| 23:18.36 | trepan | gdb --args ./bzflag blah blah blah |
| 23:18.54 | trepan | hm, s/blah blah blah/-window |
| 23:19.25 | trepan | and set input->confine mouse to No |
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| 23:20.06 | trepan | heh, assumed from src, prolly my first mistake |
| 23:22.13 | trepan | doing this flag crap is taking more typing then i'd hoped |
| 23:22.24 | JeffM2501 | how the hand? |
| 23:22.51 | trepan | as always, worst then the day before |
| 23:23.02 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 23:23.47 | trepan | correct reply is: wow dude, that's messed up (ref?) |
| 23:24.09 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:25.20 | trepan | told silver to change to random flags, he starting getting multiple L's, etc... so i felt obligated to fix it |
| 23:25.39 | JeffM2501 | turned into a biger thing? |
| 23:26.13 | trepan | well, decided i'd add in run-time flag-count config, cause i was half way there anyways |
| 23:26.36 | trepan | and the -f/-s/+s crap just isn't intuitive |
| 23:26.42 | JeffM2501 | I decided to make a girl run around and shoot stuff |
| 23:27.07 | trepan | FPS? |
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| 23:27.34 | JeffM2501 | first and 3rd |
| 23:27.41 | JeffM2501 | expanding the sample app |
| 23:27.50 | JeffM2501 | gonna make her get into a dune buggy next |
| 23:28.06 | JeffM2501 | then have the option of spawing in the buggy |
| 23:33.35 | ryanakca | trepan: apt-get... |
| 23:34.40 | ryanakca | trepan: it gets to the point that I have to go to another comp, ssh in, and kill the process... ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't, ctrl-alt-esc doesn't, etc,etc,etc |
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| 23:36.14 | trepan | ryanakca: ya, that doesn't help, try building a debug version from source |
| 23:36.33 | ryanakca | and how would I exit? |
| 23:36.40 | ryanakca | I'm tired of ssh-ing in |
| 23:36.58 | ryanakca | same problem with 2.0.8 from source.... except I uninstalled it and deleted the source dir |
| 23:37.14 | trepan | ~dict debug |
| 23:37.30 | ryanakca | ... |
| 23:37.59 | ryanakca | helpfull.... I can exit with "locate and correct errors in a computer program code;" |
| 23:38.46 | trepan | ryanakca: was gonna help ya, not so inclined now |
| 23:38.55 | ryanakca | lol, sorry :) |
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