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| 01:49.11 | jzaun | hey all :-) |
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| 01:49.23 | blast007 | jzaun: hey :) |
| 01:50.11 | jzaun | anything new and/or exciting going on? |
| 01:50.48 | blast007 | been pretty quite here for the last few hours |
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| 01:54.23 | brlcad | ebb and flow |
| 01:54.38 | jzaun | :-) |
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| 02:53.08 | trepan | improvement for random flags? http://trepan.homelinux.net/flag-switches.txt |
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| 04:32.25 | Death_Barrel | ~x de en Das Anfall |
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| 05:27.29 | PuMpErNiCkLe | delusional: ping |
| 05:38.47 | L4m3r | PuMpErNiCkLe: a-d's having some issues :P |
| 05:39.38 | PuMpErNiCkLe | looks like :( |
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| 05:54.14 | PuMpErNiCkLe | A-Delusion: ping? |
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| 08:42.08 | siimo | i keep losing my settngs with 2.0.8 o_O |
| 08:43.08 | L4m3r | is your client crashing? |
| 08:43.15 | siimo | no |
| 08:43.32 | L4m3r | hm... maybe try wiping your conf and starting fresh |
| 08:43.35 | siimo | all i did was change my hostname and it made a new folder in ~/.bzf |
| 08:43.47 | siimo | and i cant copy paste it back from old hostname |
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| 09:51.10 | CBG | ~[dmp]++ |
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| 11:13.12 | ryanakca | has anybody else had trouble with bzflag hanging at exit? |
| 11:14.27 | Mr_Molez | yeh but duno how to fix it |
| 11:14.42 | ryanakca | kk, in 2.0.8? |
| 11:15.07 | ryanakca | It was fine for a while, and now its creeping up... |
| 11:15.10 | Mr_Molez | it happened in 2.0.6 so yeh i guess it will happen in that aswell |
| 11:17.52 | ryanakca | Mr_Molez: OS? |
| 11:18.17 | Mr_Molez | linux |
| 11:18.38 | ryanakca | ... Debian... Ubuntu... FC... Mandrake... gentoo...??? |
| 11:19.26 | Mr_Molez | ubuntu |
| 11:19.44 | Mr_Molez | its actually happened on a few distros |
| 11:20.06 | ryanakca | same... hmmm... ok... then it should be fine submitting 2.0.8 to REVU... since it's an upstream bug... |
| 11:20.13 | ryanakca | since it hangs... how d'you get out? |
| 11:20.28 | Mr_Molez | switch to a new terminal and killall bzflag |
| 11:20.49 | ryanakca | hmmm... odd... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work for me when it hangs... |
| 11:20.55 | Mr_Molez | :O |
| 11:21.15 | ryanakca | nor does ctrl-alt-backspace... I end up ssh in from my windows box |
| 11:21.35 | Mr_Molez | wow lol i dont think mine were that severe |
| 11:23.01 | ryanakca | lol |
| 11:23.17 | ryanakca | Mr_Molez: shall I e-mail you the deb for 2.0.8? |
| 11:23.31 | Mr_Molez | nah im not using linux atm |
| 11:23.37 | Mr_Molez | ive given up on it for a while :P |
| 11:23.48 | ryanakca | :O |
| 11:24.00 | Mr_Molez | till it starts working right again |
| 11:24.07 | ryanakca | Dapper? |
| 11:24.29 | ryanakca | tried it? its sweet... anywais... bbl, got to go to school... |
| 11:24.40 | Mr_Molez | yeh its not bad :P |
| 11:24.44 | Mr_Molez | okies cu later |
| 11:24.49 | ryanakca | Where I'll be setting up Ubuntu Server on an old Compaq server :) |
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| 16:39.59 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: ping |
| 16:54.03 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: hey :) |
| 16:54.17 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: pm |
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| 17:05.07 | giggsey | Im getting this in the server conf from a client who says they are shooting, but nothing appears for anyone else |
| 17:05.08 | giggsey | Player neonDragon [1] shot lifetime mismatch 0.000000 3.500000 |
| 17:05.44 | JeffM2501 | they on an AMD64 on linux? |
| 17:06.08 | giggsey | yeah he is |
| 17:06.39 | JeffM2501 | ether have him build from source |
| 17:06.45 | JeffM2501 | that fixes most people with the problem |
| 17:06.49 | JeffM2501 | or her |
| 17:06.54 | JeffM2501 | :) |
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| 17:09.40 | giggsey | neondragon: only the linux community would mark software as stable where the main function of a game, shooting stuff, doesn't work |
| 17:09.41 | giggsey | ^_^ |
| 17:09.55 | JeffM2501 | umm whatever |
| 17:10.02 | JeffM2501 | games don't realy do the "Stable" thing |
| 17:10.19 | JeffM2501 | it has to do with how the floating point optimisations happen on the AMDs |
| 17:10.29 | JeffM2501 | and if he dosn't like linux, don't use it |
| 17:10.49 | bryjen | heh. i didn't realize JeffM2501 was part of "the linux community" |
| 17:10.56 | JeffM2501 | you know me |
| 17:11.00 | JeffM2501 | totaly in there on that linux |
| 17:11.13 | giggsey | dont worry, hes just pissed off :P |
| 17:11.14 | JeffM2501 | all I need is the dusty nasty beard and the funny hat |
| 17:11.56 | giggsey | if he installed the 32bit version, would that work? |
| 17:12.01 | JeffM2501 | don't know |
| 17:12.11 | JeffM2501 | he can also try to get one of the newer packages |
| 17:12.15 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.8 |
| 17:12.22 | JeffM2501 | or 2.0.7 |
| 17:12.43 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.7/ |
| 17:12.53 | JeffM2501 | that has an AMD64 deb that should work |
| 17:18.14 | giggsey | On a different note, whats the command to login as admin on a server via BZAdmin |
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| 17:40.34 | Harlin_ | bzadmin callsign:password@servername.tld:port |
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| 18:03.30 | giggsey | Im not sure about this - on the screenshots on the wikipedia article, the tanks glow etc. (the shots glow during the night etc.) |
| 18:03.55 | giggsey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BZFlag-ObserverMode.png - what setting do I need for that gfx? |
| 18:05.32 | JeffM2501 | that's normal IIRC |
| 18:05.36 | JeffM2501 | what card do you have now? |
| 18:14.46 | giggsey | 10os[WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600), x86] 10cpu[1 x Intel Pentium III @ 933 MHz] 10mem[Physical: 704 MB, 342 MB Free] 10disk[Total: 13.57 GB, 4.05 GB Free] 10video[nVidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400] 10sound[VIA Audio (WAVE)] |
| 18:14.49 | giggsey | That one ^^ |
| 18:15.26 | JeffM2501 | should just be able to go in and turn up the settings and get that |
| 18:15.31 | JeffM2501 | what version of bzflag do you run? |
| 18:15.32 | blast007 | that would be the Lighting setting |
| 18:15.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:15.42 | JeffM2501 | I don't even think that's "best" |
| 18:15.56 | giggsey | 2.0.8 |
| 18:16.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah just turn it up |
| 18:16.11 | JeffM2501 | you've got a GPU it should be ok |
| 18:16.21 | JeffM2501 | asuming you have the real nvidia drivers |
| 18:16.24 | JeffM2501 | not the MS ones |
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| 18:22.22 | jzaun | Greetings |
| 18:25.16 | giggsey | wow, thats nice :D |
| 18:27.02 | giggsey | lol |
| 18:27.26 | CBG | I was amaezed when I got 140+ FPS today... |
| 18:27.44 | CBG | No idea why, but never got over 100 before. :| |
| 18:27.59 | jzaun | I know this has probably been asked a billion times, but has anyone thought of useing different tank models for each team? they would all be "standard" for the client so each tank would be the same size but look different... |
| 18:28.13 | giggsey | I've never got more then 25 |
| 18:28.29 | CBG | giggsey: heh, do you have the 'Energy Saver' on ? |
| 18:28.38 | giggsey | not sure |
| 18:28.46 | JeffM2501 | jzaun, it's been talked about |
| 18:28.49 | CBG | I usually do and only get 25-30 FPS then, though I occassionally turn that off, like today... |
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| 18:29.03 | JeffM2501 | does affect the CB and masqerate flags a bit |
| 18:29.10 | JeffM2501 | as then tanks sundely change model |
| 18:29.18 | JeffM2501 | noone has done anything on it |
| 18:29.53 | JeffM2501 | in general there are biger things to do before we do that |
| 18:29.58 | giggsey | CBG: how do you get the current FPS - I can never remember how |
| 18:30.04 | JeffM2501 | T |
| 18:30.15 | CBG | giggsey: 't' key for m. |
| 18:30.19 | CBG | me* |
| 18:30.39 | jzaun | JeffM2501, Is the TODO in CVS up-to-date? |
| 18:31.11 | JeffM2501 | jzaun, define "up to date"? |
| 18:31.18 | JeffM2501 | it's got stuff people have thought about doing |
| 18:31.27 | jzaun | jzaun, thats the list of more important stuff to do? :-D |
| 18:31.35 | giggsey | humm, still getting around '30' |
| 18:31.43 | JeffM2501 | no I don't think it's sorted by any prority |
| 18:31.54 | CBG | giggsey: what sort of hardware? |
| 18:31.57 | JeffM2501 | we don't do assignements, so it's what ever people want to do |
| 18:32.03 | giggsey | look up ^^ |
| 18:32.05 | JeffM2501 | giggsey, turn of vsync in your driver |
| 18:32.34 | jzaun | I know :-) same as when I did my last commits :-/ but thats been years. |
| 18:32.49 | giggsey | humm, would that be why somethings when I alt-tab out of bzflag my monitor goes into vsync outa range mode |
| 18:32.54 | CBG | giggsey: I should think you could get higher than 30FPS :/ |
| 18:33.02 | jzaun | If I get ambitious I may look into unique models for teams |
| 18:33.06 | CBG | giggsey: do you have BZFlag settings all up to the max? |
| 18:34.50 | JeffM2501 | jzaun, you will want to talk to tim to see what he wants, and also have a plan for the mind affecting flags |
| 18:35.01 | JeffM2501 | you should also make the models external at the same time |
| 18:35.16 | giggsey | most of settings are on max |
| 18:35.21 | giggsey | shadows is of |
| 18:35.23 | giggsey | off* |
| 18:37.03 | CBG | giggsey: well, hmm, I found that it's possibly to turn off a few things to increase FPS without making the game look much different. |
| 18:37.18 | CBG | try to experiment with the display, effects, etc settings. :) |
| 18:37.52 | giggsey | I can still play decently enough with 30 FPS |
| 18:38.06 | CBG | Yeah, 30 is ok. |
| 18:38.08 | Saturos | Yeah, I am at 30 fps too. It's possible. |
| 18:38.14 | CBG | Under 20 is a bit rough... |
| 18:38.40 | Saturos | Under 25 is hard. |
| 18:38.44 | CBG | I usually play with 25-30, but when I turn energy saver off, I can get over 100... |
| 18:38.50 | Saturos | Especially when jumping. |
| 18:39.08 | CBG | Never had more than 105 till today though, and there's no reason for it to be higher either. o.O |
| 18:39.39 | Saturos | Never went higher than 52. |
| 18:39.56 | CBG | eek... |
| 18:45.12 | giggsey | I enabled shadows, and it went to 1 and 2 :P |
| 18:45.25 | CBG | o.O |
| 18:46.12 | A_Meteorite | I can easily get 150 |
| 18:46.24 | A_Meteorite | at high max settings on a simple map (no shadows) |
| 18:46.31 | CBG | A_Meteorite: you're less of a cheapskate, evidently :P |
| 18:46.42 | A_Meteorite | it's only a Radeon 9600 128MB |
| 18:47.00 | A_Meteorite | iMac G5 2ghz |
| 18:47.13 | A_Meteorite | (I put the processor on max in energy saver in sys prefs) |
| 18:47.37 | A_Meteorite | *processor performance |
| 18:47.50 | CBG | Yeah... iMac G5. I have the cheapest G4 iBook from Feb 2005. |
| 18:47.57 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 18:49.45 | gsnedders | I've got alpha bullets, which put it down, a bit :P |
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| 19:42.46 | ruskie | weee today was a good game day |
| 19:42.56 | ruskie | atlaest for blues and myself :) |
| 19:44.13 | ruskie | I'm acctually relaxed |
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| 19:47.38 | [NP]Tangent | grrr |
| 19:47.50 | [NP]Tangent | arka got mad and left silvercat because he says I was cheating |
| 19:47.53 | [NP]Tangent | dunno what I did |
| 19:48.05 | [NP]Tangent | I had a GM flag, all I did was hit him about 7 times with it, or something |
| 19:48.46 | [NP]Tangent | so yeah |
| 19:48.47 | [NP]Tangent | whatever |
| 19:48.56 | ryanakca | lol |
| 19:49.16 | ryanakca | anyone know how to get rid of the hanging at exit? (on linux, with 2.0.8) |
| 19:49.45 | [NP]Tangent | I'm using 2.0.4 on linux |
| 19:49.57 | [NP]Tangent | 2.0.8 for some reason was crashing my wireless drivers |
| 19:50.01 | ryanakca | [NP]Tangent: is there a big difference? |
| 19:50.02 | [NP]Tangent | but then again |
| 19:50.17 | [NP]Tangent | I just upgradedto Dapper Drake, so I might be able to get 2.0.8 working |
| 19:50.31 | [NP]Tangent | between 2.0.4 and 2.0.8? not really, I dont' think |
| 19:50.37 | [NP]Tangent | just bugfixes and security issues resolved |
| 19:50.44 | ryanakca | dapper has 2.0.4... I'm making a package for 2.0.8... |
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| 19:50.57 | [NP]Tangent | cool |
| 19:51.02 | [NP]Tangent | I want the 2.0.8 package |
| 19:51.07 | ryanakca | not that it'll get accepted or anything... |
| 19:51.08 | [NP]Tangent | though I could just compile it |
| 19:51.13 | [NP]Tangent | I've got the source handy |
| 19:51.16 | ryanakca | well... here... can you try it? |
| 19:51.21 | [NP]Tangent | try what? |
| 19:51.23 | [NP]Tangent | the package? |
| 19:51.43 | ryanakca | yeah |
| 19:51.57 | ryanakca | I can e-mail it to you... see if it works, before sending it to REVU... |
| 19:51.57 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 19:52.20 | ryanakca | no garanty though... just a fair warning... it IS just my 3rd package |
| 19:52.54 | ryanakca | oh, and I guess I should say that it isn't supported by ubuntu/kubuntu... just so they don't hunt me down |
| 19:53.12 | [NP]Tangent | might be a safe idea |
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| 19:53.58 | ryanakca | :) |
| 19:54.15 | [NP]Tangent | woot |
| 19:54.19 | [NP]Tangent | I get my paycheck today |
| 19:54.28 | [NP]Tangent | probably nothing huge |
| 19:54.29 | [NP]Tangent | I mean |
| 19:54.37 | [NP]Tangent | I am 16, working at a Carl's Jr. |
| 19:54.39 | [NP]Tangent | but still |
| 19:54.45 | [NP]Tangent | beats nothing |
| 19:54.55 | ryanakca | lol... |
| 19:55.05 | [NP]Tangent | man |
| 19:55.08 | [NP]Tangent | I tell you what |
| 19:55.12 | [NP]Tangent | I hate kids that come in |
| 19:55.20 | [NP]Tangent | and smash the pepper shakers on pennies |
| 19:55.29 | ryanakca | lol |
| 19:55.30 | [NP]Tangent | the shakers shatter on the bottom |
| 19:55.37 | [NP]Tangent | and make a huge mess |
| 19:55.49 | [NP]Tangent | which sucks, because there's only one person assigned to lobby at a time |
| 19:55.54 | [NP]Tangent | and that's usually me when I'm there |
| 19:55.58 | QuantumBeep | I recommend death by pineapple |
| 19:56.00 | [NP]Tangent | except yesterday |
| 19:56.05 | [NP]Tangent | I did drive-thru yesterday |
| 19:57.41 | ryanakca | [NP]Tangent: Mind if I sign it? |
| 19:58.08 | [NP]Tangent | sign what? |
| 19:58.21 | [NP]Tangent | the package? |
| 19:59.38 | ryanakca | the whole thing |
| 19:59.52 | [NP]Tangent | sure, no problem |
| 19:59.56 | [NP]Tangent | do whatever you'd like |
| 19:59.56 | ryanakca | message + packages... |
| 20:00.01 | [NP]Tangent | as long as it won't break my computer |
| 20:00.10 | [NP]Tangent | my computer breaks enough as it is |
| 20:00.13 | ryanakca | lol, it won't... |
| 20:00.13 | L4m3r | well, the computer forum is no help... mac fanboys must be unable to grasp the concept of a broken mac... |
| 20:00.29 | L4m3r | So, any of you mac users ever have a laptop screen die on you? |
| 20:00.38 | [NP]Tangent | no, l4m3r |
| 20:00.44 | [NP]Tangent | but when I play bzflag, on my linux laptop |
| 20:00.58 | ryanakca | sending |
| 20:01.02 | [NP]Tangent | my screen occasionally fades to black, stays for about 20 seconds, then snaps back |
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| 20:01.24 | L4m3r | a panicked floormate knocked on my door at 1am last night asking for help... |
| 20:01.25 | ryanakca | same here, but on desktop, while playing tuxracer |
| 20:01.42 | L4m3r | get powerbook's screen is blank, all you get is the backlight |
| 20:01.47 | L4m3r | her* |
| 20:02.07 | L4m3r | had to plug in my CRT so she could email her paper to herself and finish it elsewhere |
| 20:02.34 | [NP]Tangent | that's odd |
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| 20:02.59 | ryanakca | [NP]Tangent: doesn't want to send... I'll put it on my webserver.... |
| 20:03.10 | ryanakca | gmail must block .deb or something :S |
| 20:03.10 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 20:03.19 | [NP]Tangent | wait |
| 20:03.22 | [NP]Tangent | I have another email |
| 20:03.51 | ryanakca | smtp.gmail.com... |
| 20:04.06 | [NP]Tangent | i privmsg'd you the email |
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| 20:13.42 | ryanakca | :) |
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| 21:06.23 | trepan | http://trepan.homelinux.net/flag-switches.txt , might as well make flags run-time configurable while i'm at it |
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| 21:26.04 | [NP]Tangent | off to work now |
| 21:26.13 | [NP]Tangent | I'll be back to suck at bzflag later |
| 21:26.16 | [NP]Tangent | hah |
| 21:26.23 | [NP]Tangent | the thing about the game is |
| 21:26.26 | [NP]Tangent | even if you suck |
| 21:26.35 | [NP]Tangent | it's still a lot of fun |
| 21:26.42 | [NP]Tangent | anyways... peace |
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