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| 00:14.59 | Mr_Molez | yay Gnurdux |
| 00:15.09 | Mr_Molez | ~karma Gnurdux |
| 00:15.09 | ibot | gnurdux has karma of 12 |
| 00:15.26 | Mr_Molez | ~Gnurdux++ |
| 00:15.29 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:15.36 | A_Meteorite | What did he do...? |
| 00:15.58 | Mr_Molez | good stuff :P |
| 00:15.58 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 00:16.11 | Gnurdux | your that happy about that plugin? |
| 00:16.12 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:16.15 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 00:16.28 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, what i did was: http://gnurdux.homelinux.net/confChange |
| 00:16.45 | A_Meteorite | Not Found |
| 00:16.45 | A_Meteorite | The requested URL /confChange was not found on this server. |
| 00:16.46 | A_Meteorite | :P |
| 00:17.20 | Mr_Molez | http://gnurdux.homelinux.net/bzplugins/confChange/ |
| 00:18.19 | Gnurdux | whoops |
| 00:18.20 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:18.21 | Gnurdux | yup |
| 00:20.31 | Mr_Molez | TimRiker: if jeff taking over or something ? |
| 00:20.41 | Mr_Molez | *is |
| 00:22.18 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, TimRiker runs it technically but he is too busy to control it full-time, while Jeff has more time to do it\ |
| 00:22.26 | Gnurdux | but TimRiker owns copyright etc |
| 00:22.33 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 00:22.44 | Gnurdux | Jeff loves to diss TimRiker |
| 00:23.01 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 00:23.03 | Gnurdux | and I love to diss Jeff |
| 00:23.09 | Mr_Molez | he loves to diss everyone |
| 00:23.16 | Gnurdux | especially when he's not present |
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| 00:23.36 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: what web browser do u use ? |
| 00:23.40 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, firefox |
| 00:23.43 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
| 00:25.08 | Gnurdux | why? |
| 00:25.23 | Mr_Molez | just wanted u to check something |
| 00:25.28 | Mr_Molez | but u got same as me so nevermind :P |
| 00:31.51 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, you on winblows? |
| 00:32.16 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 00:32.19 | Gnurdux | firefox is the only decent browser for linux |
| 00:32.31 | Gnurdux | oh, and hows my plugin :P |
| 00:32.36 | Gnurdux | any new plugins ya want? |
| 00:32.45 | Gnurdux | somethign that does a gameover when anyone gets 8 captures? |
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| 00:32.59 | Mr_Molez | that would be good :D |
| 00:33.03 | Gnurdux | wait 1 thing... do you report team score, or number of captures Mr_Molez ? |
| 00:33.27 | Mr_Molez | number of captures |
| 00:33.36 | Gnurdux | another thing |
| 00:34.06 | Gnurdux | should i change the confChange thingy so that it tells you when you connect that there is a match on, so don't change confs? |
| 00:34.39 | Gnurdux | or should people have to know for themselves? |
| 00:35.13 | Mr_Molez | have to know themselves |
| 00:35.17 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 00:35.22 | Mr_Molez | its pretty obvious, if they see the time counting down at the top |
| 00:35.27 | Gnurdux | i guess if someone can't tell, they deserve to be kicked |
| 00:36.34 | Gnurdux | how bout i put all openleague plugins in a dir called openleague? |
| 00:36.47 | Mr_Molez | sure :P |
| 00:40.16 | Gnurdux | damn |
| 00:40.21 | Gnurdux | i just deleted my MOTD plugin |
| 00:40.26 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, do oyu still have that? |
| 00:40.41 | Gnurdux | wait |
| 00:40.43 | Gnurdux | i still ahve it |
| 00:40.44 | Gnurdux | whew |
| 00:40.53 | Mr_Molez | MOTD ? |
| 00:41.14 | Gnurdux | it lets you basically make a srvmsg in a file |
| 00:41.21 | Mr_Molez | ah |
| 00:41.52 | Gnurdux | what should i call the plugin that does a gameover after one team hits a certain number of caps? |
| 00:42.40 | Mr_Molez | race-to-seven-just-better |
| 00:42.41 | Mr_Molez | hehhe |
| 00:42.42 | Mr_Molez | nah hmm |
| 00:42.53 | Mr_Molez | maxteamscore plugin :P |
| 00:43.12 | Gnurdux | maxteamscore is an option |
| 00:43.18 | Gnurdux | and its max TEAM SCORE |
| 00:43.21 | Gnurdux | that is, wins - losses |
| 00:43.38 | Mr_Molez | i said teamscore |
| 00:43.40 | Mr_Molez | duh |
| 00:44.00 | Gnurdux | i thought you wanted after 8 captures from any one side? |
| 00:44.20 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 00:44.25 | Mr_Molez | come to 59998 |
| 00:44.30 | Gnurdux | sure |
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| 00:47.09 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: quick come bac |
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| 00:49.33 | Gnurdux | g2g |
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| 01:16.43 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (15 files in 4 dirs): LOD'ed flags |
| 01:16.50 | trepan | might be a bit messy, had to revert a lot of stuff from my own code |
| 01:18.29 | trepan | (alpha thresh shadows, better pole geo, etc...) |
| 01:22.21 | trepan | Thumper_: the glDrawElements() call might affect your weird driver bug, but it doesn't use the glDrawArrays() call anymore |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/defaultBZDB.cxx: better safe then sorry |
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| 01:42.29 | spldart | Any good books? |
| 01:43.08 | JeffM2501 | make and full metal panic |
| 01:43.26 | spldart | ah |
| 01:44.22 | spldart | My 9, 12 and 14 y/o love fmp |
| 01:45.09 | spldart | and fma |
| 01:52.24 | spldart | I'm a bit a bit out of date loving Robotech and Dragonball series :( |
| 01:52.31 | spldart | sorry for the OT |
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| 01:53.06 | JeffM2501 | the former I can agree with there, but the later.... that's just lame |
| 01:53.58 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:55.12 | spldart | Welp... I've learned more about bzflag today, thank you dev's, and I've learned a ish load more about manually configuring xserver thanks to google... whew :) Nighty night fellow tankers |
| 02:03.11 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/geometry/FlagSceneNode.cxx: use the _defines |
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| 02:07.50 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (src/bzflag/effectsRenderer.cxx data/wavy_flare.png): make the spawn and shot effects a little less uniform |
| 02:12.21 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, why does gameover take an int, rather than the team enum? |
| 02:12.42 | JeffM2501 | cus they are techincaly the same thing |
| 02:12.52 | JeffM2501 | and probably made by difrent people |
| 02:13.51 | Gnurdux | but... the team enum is most likely lined up differently |
| 02:14.02 | JeffM2501 | "lined up" ? |
| 02:14.47 | Gnurdux | the numbers are different, arent they? |
| 02:14.55 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 02:15.23 | blast007 | Gnurdux: how about you check? |
| 02:15.27 | Gnurdux | if i passed a team color enum, it wouldnt be the right team |
| 02:15.39 | L4m3r | uh, why not? |
| 02:15.40 | JeffM2501 | think about what an "enum" is |
| 02:16.00 | JeffM2501 | and maybe what the "num" part mean |
| 02:16.17 | Gnurdux | well ill try |
| 02:16.27 | JeffM2501 | perhaps you sould learn C |
| 02:18.05 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, i know what an enum is |
| 02:18.23 | Gnurdux | i just thought for some reason that that enum was different numerically from the game team indexes |
| 02:18.35 | JeffM2501 | then you don't know what an enum is ;) |
| 02:18.41 | blast007 | Gnurdux: so, you were just making a wild guess? |
| 02:18.52 | JeffM2501 | he was talking just to talk |
| 02:18.57 | Gnurdux | no, i wasnt |
| 02:19.05 | Gnurdux | i was making a wild guess, like blast007 says |
| 02:19.19 | L4m3r | The developers aren't stupid. They wouldn't make it inconsistent- the team indexes are the same in every aspect of the game I've seen |
| 02:19.22 | blast007 | which would be talking just to talk |
| 02:19.38 | JeffM2501 | if you had to guess, then you don't know what an enum is, and don't know one of the basic constructs of C |
| 02:20.03 | Gnurdux | no, i know what an enum is |
| 02:20.21 | Gnurdux | i thought it used a different sequence of teams than the main server does |
| 02:20.44 | JeffM2501 | why don't you ever just LOOK at the code? |
| 02:20.56 | JeffM2501 | do you not have a search function? |
| 02:20.59 | Gnurdux | i do |
| 02:21.09 | JeffM2501 | then why don't you USE it |
| 02:23.34 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfsMessages.cxx): Fix sending chat messages |
| 02:23.46 | JeffM2501 | I don't mind answering questions for you, just please make sure they are not ones you can answer yourself easaly |
| 02:24.08 | JeffM2501 | most of your "why does this do that" questions are pointless. the answer is.. "because that's what it does" |
| 02:24.31 | Mr_Molez | stuff |
| 02:25.25 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: your vocaliser crap, how do you load a voice ? |
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| 02:26.32 | JeffM2501 | via the config file you pass in |
| 02:26.39 | JeffM2501 | but really it's not going to work on a lot of systems |
| 02:26.49 | JeffM2501 | I don't recomend using it |
| 02:26.52 | Mr_Molez | i think i found a typo on it |
| 02:26.55 | Mr_Molez | prefeix M2- |
| 02:26.59 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it was ever tested |
| 02:27.00 | JeffM2501 | at all |
| 02:27.01 | JeffM2501 | ever |
| 02:27.04 | Mr_Molez | ohh |
| 02:27.06 | Mr_Molez | well ill test it |
| 02:27.09 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 02:27.13 | Mr_Molez | cuz im good |
| 02:27.17 | Mr_Molez | and i can |
| 02:27.27 | Mr_Molez | also, why not |
| 02:27.30 | JeffM2501 | but it dosn't work on the client side |
| 02:27.35 | Mr_Molez | uh |
| 02:27.37 | JeffM2501 | the plugin is pointless |
| 02:28.01 | Mr_Molez | so you made a plugin that can never work ? |
| 02:28.12 | JeffM2501 | never finished it |
| 02:28.22 | JeffM2501 | after I found out there were client problems |
| 02:28.26 | Mr_Molez | so the bzflag client code needs changing for it to work |
| 02:28.45 | JeffM2501 | lots of things need to change |
| 02:28.48 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 02:28.48 | JeffM2501 | it was a bad idea |
| 02:28.59 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/vocaliser/ (6 files): remove vocaliser |
| 02:29.01 | JeffM2501 | if I do my new sound manager in 2.2 it shoudl work better |
| 02:29.03 | Mr_Molez | noooo |
| 02:29.09 | blast007 | lol, poof |
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| 02:29.44 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 02:29.48 | JeffM2501 | cus it still woudln't have worked |
| 02:29.55 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ (Makefile.am vc71/plugins.sln): no vocaliser |
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| 02:34.48 | Mr_Molez | bzflag was once a quake2 mod heh |
| 02:35.10 | Mr_Molez | uhhh |
| 02:35.11 | Mr_Molez | nevermind |
| 02:55.15 | JeffM2501 | wtf? |
| 02:56.04 | lan56 | what the heck does that mean? |
| 02:56.24 | A_Meteorite | lan56: if I said then I would be off the channel :P |
| 02:56.31 | lan56 | no not that |
| 02:56.34 | blast007 | lol |
| 02:56.35 | lan56 | the quake 2 mod |
| 02:56.35 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 02:56.43 | A_Meteorite | no idea |
| 02:56.46 | lan56 | I know what wtf means :) |
| 02:56.51 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 02:57.37 | JeffM2501 | what is wrong with the word "frell"? |
| 02:59.04 | A_Meteorite | nothing at all ;) |
| 03:02.07 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/geometry/FlagSceneNode.cxx: include glDrawRangeElements() patch, fix ws for Tim |
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| 03:10.17 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/SceneRenderer.cxx geometry/FlagSceneNode.cxx): printf snuck in |
| 03:12.09 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/include/bzfgl.h: cleanup |
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| 03:16.59 | bryjen | it's a thinly disguised version of another f word. and what is objectionable, those four letters, or the sentiment? |
| 03:19.56 | JeffM2501 | it's from a TV show |
| 03:20.00 | JeffM2501 | how can TVshows be bad? |
| 03:22.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh such a good show |
| 03:22.28 | bryjen | apparently, to the FCC, it's that sequence of four letters |
| 03:22.38 | JeffM2501 | and those alone |
| 03:24.10 | bryjen | they had a couple more "alien" profanities |
| 03:24.14 | trepan | frack that |
| 03:24.22 | bryjen | trepan: wrong show ;) |
| 03:24.32 | JeffM2501 | same sentemnet |
| 03:24.49 | bryjen | ya. maybe it's ok with five letters |
| 03:24.50 | trepan | bryjen: well aware |
| 03:24.50 | bryjen | ;) |
| 03:25.07 | JeffM2501 | the flat out chinese cursing in firefly was best |
| 03:25.15 | JeffM2501 | they didn't even have to make up words ;) |
| 03:27.20 | trepan | farscape |
| 03:28.07 | Tropican8 | Didn't that end? I thought I saw some castmembers make cameos on SG-1 |
| 03:28.24 | bryjen | hrm. the normal and super bullets look the same now. and someone's stolen the flags off the poles :/ |
| 03:28.45 | L4m3r | lol |
| 03:29.20 | trepan | bryjen: try diff qual modes, see if it makes a diff (w.r.t. flags) |
| 03:29.50 | bryjen | yeah, they canceled farscape. and the two "human" characters actors are now regulars on SG1 |
| 03:29.55 | trepan | what OS / GPU ? |
| 03:30.17 | bryjen | linux / GeForce 6800 XT |
| 03:31.22 | Tropican8 | I'll take your graphics card if you want to get a new one because of the bullets and flagpoles :-) |
| 03:31.40 | bryjen | quality setting doesn't change it |
| 03:31.42 | trepan | linux / 6800 GT here, no probs |
| 03:32.51 | JeffM2501 | the super shots are slightly more transperant ;) |
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| 03:33.34 | JeffM2501 | John Chriton does well on stargate |
| 03:38.37 | bryjen | same on tupone's server. jeffm's server is naked. |
| 03:39.10 | JeffM2501 | tis only for testing explosions |
| 03:39.54 | Tropican8 | Naked servers? I thought that's what restricting images to images.bzflag.org protected us against!!! :-O |
| 03:40.19 | JeffM2501 | well when you have aproval access on images.bzflag.org :) |
| 03:41.09 | a-delusion | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.14 | JeffM2501 | you've never seen stargate? |
| 03:43.26 | a-delusion | I played it in 1983, in the arcades |
| 03:43.37 | JeffM2501 | it was a game? |
| 03:43.46 | a-delusion | defender 2 |
| 03:43.51 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 03:43.59 | JeffM2501 | not of what we speak |
| 03:44.05 | JeffM2501 | movie... TV show |
| 03:44.07 | Tropican8 | lol No, we are referring to the tv show based on the movie |
| 03:44.18 | JeffM2501 | soon to be the longest running US Sci-Fi TV show |
| 03:44.22 | a-delusion | had everything defender had , plus more enemies and a stagate the transported you to the scene of an alien abduction |
| 03:44.49 | Tropican8 | Someone told me 10 years, is that right? And what is the longest running right now? |
| 03:44.57 | a-delusion | you know "DEFENDER" ? |
| 03:45.00 | JeffM2501 | X files |
| 03:45.03 | JeffM2501 | at 9 |
| 03:45.44 | Tropican8 | When Mulder left I stopped watching lol |
| 03:45.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah it got prety lame |
| 03:46.09 | JeffM2501 | SG1 has held together ok after Jack left |
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| 03:49.55 | Tropican8 | Most important Sci-Fi thing in recent news: http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/05/21/0526225.shtml |
| 03:50.37 | JeffM2501 | ya |
| 03:51.41 | Tropican8 | $25,000 for the model of the enterprise from Undiscovered Country... |
| 03:52.16 | Tropican8 | OMG the flute picard played in that one episode from TNG is up for auction too... |
| 03:53.35 | Tropican8 | *was |
| 03:54.35 | Tropican8 | *will be |
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| 03:59.19 | a-delusion | 5 hundred smackers for the catalogue? wow |
| 04:00.35 | JeffM2501 | serious bidders only |
| 04:01.33 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/effectsRenderer.cxx: make the explostion effect suck slightly less |
| 04:14.01 | trepan | bryjen: any luck with the flags? |
| 04:16.55 | bryjen | nope. tried turning all the display options down, still just poles |
| 04:19.13 | trepan | weird, might have to revert |
| 04:20.16 | trepan | you do anything with the lodScale or maxFlagLOD bzdb vars? |
| 04:20.23 | trepan | (should be 1.0 and 8) |
| 04:21.19 | bryjen | no, they're #commented in the config |
| 04:21.59 | trepan | using glew and the glew'ed version of FlagSceneNode.cxx ? |
| 04:22.31 | bryjen | http://bryjen.bzflag.org/flagpoles.png |
| 04:23.14 | bryjen | HAVE_GLEW is defined in config.h |
| 04:24.22 | trepan | could check the indices going in glDraw[Range]Elements() (for the lower LOD's) |
| 04:24.30 | trepan | make sure that they've been init'ed properly |
| 04:25.33 | trepan | (g++-4.0.3 over here) |
| 04:26.17 | bryjen | g++ (GCC) 3.3.6 |
| 04:28.41 | trepan | if it's the indices, i can hardcode them rather then runtime gen. |
| 04:29.09 | blast007 | I see the flags on my build |
| 04:29.28 | blast007 | VC7.1 |
| 04:30.05 | blast007 | and just a crappy Intell 855 chipset |
| 04:34.48 | bryjen | my glew is one version back (released a year ago) |
| 04:36.20 | trepan | only used for glDrawRangeElements(), try s/GLEW/GLEWX in FlagSceneNode.cxx |
| 04:36.28 | trepan | ... to disable it |
| 04:44.14 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/metroflag.jpg |
| 04:45.51 | bryjen | appended x to have_glew 's in flagscenenode, didn't help :( |
| 04:46.45 | trepan | i'm guessing 'indices' isn't init'ed properly (esp. with older g++ version) |
| 04:47.35 | trepan | it's triggered in a weird way... 'if (this == phases)' |
| 04:59.06 | bryjen | gdb doesn't stop if i try to set the break on the makeIndices inside that if, but it does if set on that function |
| 04:59.39 | bryjen | stops once during startup |
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| 05:17.10 | [NP]Tangent | hey guys |
| 05:17.17 | [NP]Tangent | I finally got Linux working on my laptop |
| 05:17.20 | [NP]Tangent | but see |
| 05:17.25 | [NP]Tangent | now I'm having problems compiling bzflag |
| 05:17.29 | [NP]Tangent | which sucks |
| 05:17.37 | [NP]Tangent | cuz I love bzflag |
| 05:17.44 | JeffM2501 | you install all the dev libs you need? |
| 05:17.52 | [NP]Tangent | yeah man |
| 05:17.58 | [NP]Tangent | I did the autogen.sh |
| 05:18.00 | [NP]Tangent | worked |
| 05:18.06 | JeffM2501 | what problem are you having compiling it then? |
| 05:18.07 | [NP]Tangent | did the ./configure |
| 05:18.10 | [NP]Tangent | worked |
| 05:18.12 | [NP]Tangent | and did the make |
| 05:18.17 | [NP]Tangent | but then I saw no bzflag app |
| 05:18.24 | [NP]Tangent | the bzfs was in the rightplace |
| 05:18.33 | JeffM2501 | did configure give you any warnings |
| 05:18.33 | [NP]Tangent | but bzflag wasn't where the readme says it should be |
| 05:18.50 | JeffM2501 | like "gl.h not found, no client binary" ? |
| 05:19.00 | JeffM2501 | you have to read all that text that goes by |
| 05:19.11 | [NP]Tangent | configure: WARNING: Client build has been requested, but GL is not fully available (missing gl.h) |
| 05:19.11 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.13 | [NP]Tangent | found that |
| 05:19.15 | [NP]Tangent | hm |
| 05:19.16 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 05:19.20 | [NP]Tangent | yeap |
| 05:19.23 | [NP]Tangent | that looks like the problem |
| 05:19.33 | JeffM2501 | what linux distro? |
| 05:19.42 | [NP]Tangent | Ubuntu |
| 05:19.53 | JeffM2501 | what version you trying to build? |
| 05:19.58 | [NP]Tangent | of bzflag? |
| 05:20.01 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 05:20.01 | [NP]Tangent | 2.0.8 |
| 05:20.12 | JeffM2501 | nvidia drivers? |
| 05:20.24 | [NP]Tangent | don't know |
| 05:20.33 | JeffM2501 | what video chipset is in your laptop? |
| 05:20.42 | [NP]Tangent | dunno |
| 05:21.02 | JeffM2501 | so you didn't configure any drivers for X windows? |
| 05:21.04 | JeffM2501 | just went with the defaults? |
| 05:21.14 | [NP]Tangent | yes |
| 05:21.23 | [NP]Tangent | because the defaults generally work for me |
| 05:21.39 | JeffM2501 | the default nvidia or ATI drivers will not do hardware acceleration |
| 05:21.53 | JeffM2501 | they are not 100% "open" so they don't install them by default |
| 05:22.02 | JeffM2501 | you need to find out what you have in your system |
| 05:22.08 | JeffM2501 | then install those drivers |
| 05:22.15 | JeffM2501 | and the dev package for it |
| 05:22.20 | [NP]Tangent | I might have ATI |
| 05:22.26 | [NP]Tangent | I believe it is ATI, actually |
| 05:22.30 | JeffM2501 | it is not something you can guess on |
| 05:22.32 | JeffM2501 | what ATI? |
| 05:22.39 | [NP]Tangent | dunno |
| 05:22.44 | JeffM2501 | ATI only does drivers from some chips |
| 05:22.45 | JeffM2501 | not all |
| 05:22.45 | [NP]Tangent | is there a way to find out for sure? |
| 05:22.52 | JeffM2501 | read the specs on the laptop |
| 05:23.03 | JeffM2501 | what is it? |
| 05:23.58 | [NP]Tangent | my laptop is a Dell Inspiron 600m |
| 05:24.03 | [NP]Tangent | one sec |
| 05:24.11 | [NP]Tangent | I can probably check dell's site for what I've got here |
| 05:24.20 | JeffM2501 | a yup |
| 05:24.40 | JeffM2501 | 600 or 6000? |
| 05:24.44 | [NP]Tangent | 600m |
| 05:25.05 | JeffM2501 | ahh mobility 9000 |
| 05:25.12 | JeffM2501 | your gonna probalby be doing DRI then |
| 05:25.14 | JeffM2501 | that sucks |
| 05:25.21 | JeffM2501 | you want the mesa dev package then |
| 05:25.31 | [NP]Tangent | I think I saw that in Synaptic |
| 05:25.36 | [NP]Tangent | lemme open that back up |
| 05:26.51 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 05:26.55 | [NP]Tangent | downloading + installing |
| 05:27.59 | JeffM2501 | well ATI does say there binary driver supports it |
| 05:28.03 | JeffM2501 | you may want to look into using it |
| 05:29.25 | JeffM2501 | or you can try the debian premade package |
| 05:29.29 | JeffM2501 | and just manualy install that |
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| 05:29.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 05:29.59 | [NP]Tangent | hi JB |
| 05:30.12 | [NP]Tangent | what!? |
| 05:30.15 | [NP]Tangent | premade package!? |
| 05:30.17 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 05:30.22 | JeffM2501 | we make premade packages |
| 05:30.25 | JeffM2501 | for every release |
| 05:30.33 | [NP]Tangent | I didn't notice one |
| 05:30.35 | JeffM2501 | they just take a while to get into the various distros |
| 05:30.36 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 05:30.37 | [NP]Tangent | whoops |
| 05:30.43 | JeffM2501 | ubuntu is based on debian |
| 05:30.56 | JeffM2501 | you can get the debian package an manualy instal it |
| 05:38.16 | JeffM2501 | ubuntu proably even has 2.0.6 in the repo |
| 05:38.17 | [NP]Tangent | maybe |
| 05:38.17 | [NP]Tangent | I could look some time |
| 05:38.18 | JeffM2501 | ahh they have 2.0.2 |
| 05:38.18 | [NP]Tangent | wtf |
| 05:38.18 | [NP]Tangent | someone's interfering with my wireless |
| 05:38.18 | [NP]Tangent | stupid lamer neighbors |
| 05:38.19 | L4m3r | Heh |
| 05:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | whoa |
| 05:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | a guy nicknamed l4m3r |
| 05:38.19 | L4m3r | my dad and his gf set up wireless without telling me |
| 05:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 05:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | wireless isn't too bad |
| 05:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | unless you have dumb neighbors |
| 05:38.20 | [NP]Tangent | who find it necessary to use EVERY CHANNEL |
| 05:38.20 | L4m3r | ...they live on Pacific Coast Highway. |
| 05:38.20 | [NP]Tangent | over the course of a day |
| 05:38.20 | L4m3r | and they didn't encrypt the signal. |
| 05:38.20 | [NP]Tangent | hah |
| 05:38.20 | JeffM2501 | or say everything they think over IRC |
| 05:38.20 | L4m3r | by the time I got there to check there were five wireless clients... and we had one laptop |
| 05:38.21 | [NP]Tangent | yes, so wep would be a good thing... |
| 05:38.21 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 05:38.21 | L4m3r | yes. |
| 05:38.21 | JeffM2501 | you can get the 2.0.8 debian bianary right from the website, just use that |
| 05:38.22 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have to build |
| 05:38.22 | [NP]Tangent | but then I would have done all this work for nothing |
| 05:38.22 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 05:38.22 | JeffM2501 | is not your goal to play? |
| 05:38.23 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 05:38.23 | [NP]Tangent | I guess so |
| 05:38.23 | [NP]Tangent | I'll go to the website now |
| 05:41.08 | [NP]Tangent | well |
| 05:41.08 | [NP]Tangent | I'm going to bed now |
| 05:41.11 | [NP]Tangent | while this stuff downloads |
| 05:41.39 | [NP]Tangent | good night |
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| 06:39.08 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add geoGMBolt ( fireballish thingy ) |
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| 12:12.38 | Constitution | Are dynamic world objects anywhere in the picture for BZFlag's near future? |
| 12:13.20 | Pimpi | dynamic world objects? |
| 12:13.43 | Constitution | Yeah, like moving objects... doors that close when you enter zones, etc. |
| 12:13.57 | Constitution | Maps right now are pretty static. |
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| 12:55.23 | [NP]Tangent | welp |
| 12:55.29 | [NP]Tangent | I've got bzflag running on linux now |
| 12:55.33 | [NP]Tangent | yay |
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| 14:42.07 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.ac: vocaliser was removed |
| 14:56.40 | bryjen | brlcad: does your client draw flags properly, or just the poles? |
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| 14:58.57 | bryjen | ibot: status |
| 14:58.57 | ibot | Since Tue May 9 02:59:46 2006, there have been 179 modifications, 1202 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1371 commands. I have been awake for 13d 11h 59m 11s this session, and currently reference 110866 factoids. I'm using about 20760 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 42131.2/2296.3 child 0.03/0.01 |
| 15:07.12 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.30 | brlcad | 0 morons?! I beg to differ. |
| 15:08.39 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/MSVC/Makefile.am: ws, 1 per line for diffs |
| 15:09.50 | bryjen | maybe just none talking to ibot in the last 13.5 days ;) |
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| 16:06.08 | tokimi | any map makers here? |
| 16:06.40 | CBG` | what's up, tokimi? |
| 16:06.50 | tokimi | wanting to know the code for spawn zones |
| 16:07.07 | CBG` | zone |
| 16:07.14 | CBG` | size 10 10 10 # or whatever |
| 16:07.21 | CBG` | pos 0 0 0 #or whatever |
| 16:07.34 | CBG` | team 1 |
| 16:07.47 | CBG` | flag SW US |
| 16:07.50 | CBG` | end |
| 16:08.09 | CBG` | should be like that, iirc. |
| 16:08.50 | CBG` | oh, and you can do "safety 1 2..." too |
| 16:09.01 | tokimi | CBG`: there a good place that lists all the options and such? |
| 16:09.16 | CBG` | lemme find the man |
| 16:09.34 | CBG` | here: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5.in zones are about halfway down |
| 16:09.46 | tokimi | sweet |
| 16:09.52 | CBG` | :) |
| 16:11.03 | tokimi | thanks CBG` |
| 16:31.37 | tokimi | CBG`: whats -mb for |
| 16:31.43 | tokimi | er, -mp |
| 16:35.30 | Pimpinella | Maximum Players |
| 16:38.11 | tokimi | does the config file used in bzfs override any options set in a loaded map? |
| 16:38.56 | Pimpinella | yes |
| 16:39.15 | Pimpinella | map has lowest priority |
| 16:39.34 | Pimpinella | afair |
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| 16:54.27 | TheRedBaron | ~seen learner |
| 16:54.35 | ibot | learner <n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 4d 2h 38m 4s ago, saying: 'by far more popular, unless you work for GM or defense .. then it depends'. |
| 17:00.42 | Mr_Molez | TheRedBaron: your brother around for a 1v1 match ? |
| 17:00.56 | TheRedBaron | dunno |
| 17:00.58 | TheRedBaron | I'm at work |
| 17:01.03 | Mr_Molez | ah k :p |
| 17:01.26 | TheRedBaron | am I my brothers keeper? :) |
| 17:01.46 | Mr_Molez | hes your brother you should know what times he is online |
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| 17:02.21 | Mr_Molez | ahh ive found him |
| 17:02.23 | Mr_Molez | :D |
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| 17:07.18 | Mr_Molez | its Birdie ! |
| 17:08.10 | Birdie | molez! |
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| 17:16.01 | Mr_Molez | eep |
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| 17:25.07 | JeffM2501 | did anyone try the new GM? |
| 17:25.29 | brad | is that in 2.1? |
| 17:25.33 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:25.41 | JeffM2501 | nothing new goes into 2.0.x |
| 17:26.02 | brad | I'll look in a bit |
| 17:26.31 | brad | r |
| 17:26.32 | brad | oops |
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| 17:47.10 | brlcad | Toto_not_in_kans: I know I know, I've already got the tarball :-) |
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| 17:49.48 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 17:49.51 | [NP]Tangent | so I got bzflag installed |
| 17:49.59 | [NP]Tangent | now I need to figure out what's going on with my wireless |
| 17:50.03 | [NP]Tangent | so I can play all night |
| 17:50.05 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
| 17:53.19 | gsnedders | :D |
| 17:53.51 | Mr_Molez | bzflag is bad with wireless :P |
| 17:54.10 | JeffM2501 | bzflag hsa nothing to do with wireless |
| 17:54.27 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: you cant understand english so be quiet |
| 17:54.38 | JeffM2501 | excuse me? |
| 17:54.45 | Mr_Molez | english |
| 17:54.45 | Mr_Molez | you |
| 17:54.48 | Mr_Molez | cant understand |
| 17:54.56 | Mr_Molez | but you probably cant understand that either |
| 17:55.06 | JeffM2501 | wtf? |
| 17:55.21 | Mr_Molez | wireless causes some jitter problems with bzflag :P |
| 17:55.41 | JeffM2501 | only on a jittery wireless network |
| 17:55.50 | JeffM2501 | it woudl cause that problem on any app |
| 17:56.08 | JeffM2501 | I've sene Jittery coper networks |
| 17:56.14 | JeffM2501 | and clean wireless ones |
| 17:56.25 | JeffM2501 | YOUR wireless may suck, but that dosn't mean they all do |
| 17:56.32 | Mr_Molez | i dont have wireless |
| 17:56.42 | [NP]Tangent | my wireless doesn't suck |
| 17:56.56 | [NP]Tangent | it's just that ubuntu isn'trecognizing the card after some few hours |
| 17:56.59 | JeffM2501 | ahh so then you were speaking from your wealth of experience when you had wireless then? |
| 17:57.14 | CBG | JeffM2501: the shots in 2.1 are just supossed to _look_ nice? |
| 17:57.17 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: im not talking to you, you cant understand basic english so just ignore me |
| 17:57.27 | CBG | [NP]Tangent: not an airport extreme card, I hope. |
| 17:57.56 | [NP]Tangent | nope |
| 17:58.21 | [NP]Tangent | Intel Pro 2200BG |
| 17:58.36 | CBG | k |
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| 18:08.00 | brad | JeffM2501: 2.1 won't compile.. |
| 18:08.02 | brad | ScoreboardRenderer.cxx: In member function ‘void ScoreboardRenderer::drawPlayerScore(const Player*, float, float, float, float, float, int, bool)’: |
| 18:08.06 | brad | ScoreboardRenderer.cxx:588: error: expected primary-expression before ‘|’ token |
| 18:08.09 | brad | make[2]: *** [ScoreboardRenderer.o] Error 1 |
| 18:08.22 | brad | whatever that means |
| 18:08.35 | CBG | It compiled for me an hour or so ago... :P |
| 18:08.53 | brad | you don't count.. you and your mac |
| 18:08.59 | Mr_Molez | thats written in english, jeff wont understand |
| 18:09.00 | CBG | :P |
| 18:09.07 | brad | ~lart Mr_Molez |
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| 18:11.43 | bryjen | bots are still somewhat b0rken |
| 18:12.15 | [NP]Tangent[c] | whoa whoa whoa |
| 18:12.19 | [NP]Tangent[c] | a new gm? |
| 18:12.22 | [NP]Tangent[c] | cool |
| 18:12.28 | [NP]Tangent[c] | what's new about it? |
| 18:13.23 | CBG | bryjen: I'm online |
| 18:13.37 | CBG | swordofkahless server |
| 18:13.41 | CBG | trying to test GM myself |
| 18:14.02 | bryjen | can't get there from here. try bryjen.bzflag.org |
| 18:14.30 | CBG | ok |
| 18:14.36 | brad | i'm there with gm ;) |
| 18:21.19 | bryjen | player ids seem to be goofed up in the chat messages again |
| 18:22.28 | brad | also OO doesn't work.. |
| 18:22.50 | bryjen | maybe just in the client. the server debug output show those were messages ->All |
| 18:23.20 | brad | does bzadmin work ok? |
| 18:23.53 | bryjen | gah, the server segfaulted |
| 18:23.57 | brad | hehe |
| 18:24.07 | brad | bzadmin does the same..... sends messages to itself |
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| 18:24.43 | brad | but you see all messages as public instead of PMs |
| 18:25.31 | bryjen | messages about non-existant and duplicated shot ids... b0rk, b0rk, b0rk! |
| 18:26.18 | amcnabb | JeffM2501 and brlcad, I just submitted the patch to pack vectors in the same way that we pack floats now. |
| 18:28.54 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, what is your problem? |
| 18:29.16 | JeffM2501 | amcnabb, I'll leave that to brlcad, he knows more about the net stuff |
| 18:29.16 | CBG | Mr_Molez _is_ a problem. |
| 18:29.24 | amcnabb | ok |
| 18:29.27 | JeffM2501 | CBG, I don't need your comments |
| 18:29.40 | JeffM2501 | [NP]Tangent, the GM looks difrent |
| 18:29.44 | Pimpinella | need mine? |
| 18:29.46 | CBG | But you need Mr_Molez's? |
| 18:30.04 | JeffM2501 | no I don't, but I don't need your comments on him ether. |
| 18:30.43 | CBG | I'll save my bug 2.1 reports for someone who cares then. |
| 18:31.09 | JeffM2501 | bug reports are fine |
| 18:31.19 | JeffM2501 | I just don't need you to make comments on molez that's all |
| 18:31.22 | JeffM2501 | what did you find? |
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| 18:32.38 | brad | JeffM2501: I tried the updated record match plugin and it doesn't seem to work properly |
| 18:32.47 | brad | I don't think it saves the files after the match |
| 18:33.19 | JeffM2501 | then that would be in bzfs not the plugin |
| 18:33.22 | JeffM2501 | the plugin dosn't save |
| 18:33.37 | brad | oh |
| 18:33.46 | JeffM2501 | it just tells bzfs where to save |
| 18:33.48 | brad | is the config wrong or something? |
| 18:34.02 | JeffM2501 | not knowing your config, I can not say if it is right or wrong |
| 18:34.17 | Pimpinella | brad: did you ensure bzfs has correc file permissions to save anything? |
| 18:34.55 | brad | Pimpinella: It should be ok, there are 22 successful recordings |
| 18:35.06 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 18:36.53 | brad | I don't have any special stuff in the config for recording |
| 18:37.05 | JeffM2501 | is this in 2.1 or 2.0.x? |
| 18:37.08 | brad | 2.0 |
| 18:37.16 | JeffM2501 | didn't change anything there |
| 18:37.23 | brad | I changed it though |
| 18:37.31 | JeffM2501 | if you take your change out does it work? |
| 18:37.51 | brad | not properly, it only records one match then you need to restart |
| 18:38.07 | JeffM2501 | and what did you put in for your change? |
| 18:38.10 | brad | now it seems to do nothing |
| 18:38.18 | brad | I'll show you, 2 secs |
| 18:38.46 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.51 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 18:39.00 | brad | after bz_saveRecBuf(recFile.c_str(),0) |
| 18:39.29 | brad | can't give you a line number unfortunately, i'm doing this in nano |
| 18:40.14 | brad | http://pastebin.ca/58097 |
| 18:40.27 | brad | that's what it looks like now |
| 18:42.31 | JeffM2501 | if that is after, it should still save |
| 18:42.39 | JeffM2501 | it's that save that tells bzfs to save |
| 18:43.30 | JeffM2501 | does it save the first one ok, then not the second one? |
| 18:43.33 | JeffM2501 | or just not save them all? |
| 18:43.38 | JeffM2501 | maybe the save dosn't stop recording |
| 18:43.45 | brad | haven't tested that yet |
| 18:43.52 | brad | I'll do that now |
| 18:47.55 | brad | first oen recorded |
| 18:47.57 | brad | one* |
| 18:48.03 | brad | trying another now |
| 18:49.17 | brad | second one didn' |
| 18:49.18 | brad | t |
| 18:49.29 | JeffM2501 | ok, so something in the save dosn't reset it |
| 18:49.32 | uso | it's the missing stop for the recording, as i said yesterday |
| 18:49.33 | JeffM2501 | it's more then just that change |
| 18:49.39 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 18:49.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah so ain't gonna happen in 2.0 |
| 18:49.48 | uso | recording is still running after the safe |
| 18:50.10 | brad | can I not take the 2.1 changes to bzfsAPI.h ? |
| 18:50.17 | uso | *save |
| 18:50.18 | brad | then add the record stop somehow |
| 18:50.27 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to mod your bzfs |
| 18:50.37 | bryjen | lol. a clean build seemed to have fixed messages to all, but now private messages cause flags to be stolen :) |
| 18:50.37 | JeffM2501 | it's more then just the header |
| 18:50.45 | brad | that's fine as long as it works |
| 18:50.52 | JeffM2501 | brad, then have at it |
| 18:50.59 | brad | eek, ok :) |
| 18:51.16 | JeffM2501 | it's should be easy |
| 18:51.45 | brad | I don't know what other files need to be modded to get the record stop for the plugin |
| 18:51.56 | JeffM2501 | just the api header and Cpp |
| 18:52.00 | JeffM2501 | to add the stop function |
| 18:52.08 | brad | what cpp? :) |
| 18:52.13 | JeffM2501 | the api cxx |
| 18:52.18 | brad | ahh heh |
| 18:52.26 | JeffM2501 | the recorder has the stop already |
| 18:52.26 | brad | ok I'll try, thanks |
| 18:53.45 | uso | or add a Record::stop(ServerPlayer); in bz_saveRecBuf |
| 18:54.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:54.21 | JeffM2501 | that's simpler for just you |
| 18:54.28 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have to mod your plugin |
| 18:54.31 | uso | yup :) |
| 18:54.57 | brad | ok |
| 18:55.51 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/recordmatch/recordmatch.cpp: stop the recording after we save it |
| 18:56.21 | uso | is there a way to see if you are authenticated in bzadmin? |
| 18:57.11 | brad | uso: btw, everyone in GU.LEAGUE has the replay perm so it should work for you |
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| 18:57.39 | uso | i'm probably not authenticated with bzadmin |
| 18:57.51 | uso | can't check it from here with bzflag |
| 18:57.58 | brad | ah |
| 18:58.03 | JeffM2501 | brad, if you are using the plugin it dosn't use the users perm for recording |
| 18:58.16 | JeffM2501 | the plugin just records when games start |
| 18:58.26 | JeffM2501 | and stops when they end |
| 18:58.29 | brad | yeah I mean on the replay server |
| 18:58.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 18:58.34 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:58.35 | uso | it was for me to check if our match last night has been recorded |
| 18:58.49 | brad | probably hasn't uso |
| 18:59.05 | uso | assumed that :) |
| 19:06.46 | brlcad | amcnabb: i saw the post, thanks .. i'll take a look at it hopefully later tonight or tomorrow |
| 19:08.10 | amcnabb | thanks |
| 19:08.28 | amcnabb | Let me know if anything looks wrong. It worked fine in my testing, though. |
| 19:08.38 | brlcad | will do |
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| 19:22.11 | blast007 | bryjen: in regards to private messages stealing flags, I was experiencing that already when using the 'o' menu to send /lagstats |
| 19:28.29 | bryjen | yeah. using O seems to drop/zap your flag. private messages actually pass the flag between players :/ |
| 19:29.32 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:30.39 | bryjen | ah, the MsgFoo switch may be missing some breaks... |
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| 19:34.41 | JeffM2501 | I hate that switch |
| 19:34.59 | JeffM2501 | with a burning burning passion |
| 19:38.19 | bryjen | ~nslookup bzflag.cvs.sf.net |
| 19:38.32 | JeffM2501 | you can't use sf |
| 19:38.33 | bryjen | ~nslookup bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net |
| 19:38.51 | bryjen | ~nslookup cvs.bzflag.org |
| 19:39.01 | bryjen | grmble |
| 19:39.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah the ONE that dosnt' work is the one many used ;) |
| 19:39.43 | bryjen | i can't use anything right now. it's not working :( |
| 19:39.45 | brad | hmm it might be that I did something wrong but it doesn't seem to start the recording at all now |
| 19:49.59 | JeffM2501 | whoa cvs is wierd |
| 19:50.28 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.34 | bryjen | <aol>Me Too!</aol> |
| 19:52.56 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 20:07.06 | CBG | That's not a w3c compliant html tag, bryjen! Damn you! |
| 20:10.03 | blast007 | hehe |
| 20:12.44 | CBG | Another one? Bah |
| 20:12.58 | bryjen | yes, dam you! ;) |
| 20:13.04 | CBG | ;) |
| 20:20.05 | Gnurdux | something wierd |
| 20:20.22 | Gnurdux | in 2.0.8, /flag take works, but it displays the wrong flag |
| 20:21.10 | CBG | w |
| 20:21.15 | CBG | ~pw |
| 20:21.17 | ibot | it has been said that patches welcome is a common response by maintainers of Open Source products. It's roughly means "We don't have much time on our hands, so if you write that feature and send it to us we will likely roll it in. If you don't have the time to write it, we don't either. Stop asking for it." |
| 20:21.43 | Gnurdux | CBG, what feature do you want? |
| 20:21.48 | blast007 | ... |
| 20:21.54 | CBG | Gnurdux: ... |
| 20:22.04 | Gnurdux | its prolly already in 2.1 lol |
| 20:22.26 | CBG | Gnurdux: what is? |
| 20:22.28 | L4m3r | jackhammer* |
| 20:22.31 | Gnurdux | dunno |
| 20:22.34 | blast007 | L4m3r: you'll break the jackhammer |
| 20:22.58 | CBG | Gnurdux: what is probably already in 2.1? |
| 20:23.00 | Gnurdux | can you explain this? |
| 20:23.01 | blast007 | Gnurdux: who do you think the "patches welcome" message was directed at? |
| 20:23.06 | Gnurdux | me? |
| 20:23.10 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 20:23.11 | blast007 | ding ding ding |
| 20:23.13 | Gnurdux | whoops |
| 20:23.17 | Gnurdux | but it didnt used to do that |
| 20:23.24 | CBG | ... |
| 20:23.28 | blast007 | Gnurdux: that's too bad |
| 20:23.42 | blast007 | see if it does it in 2.1 |
| 20:23.47 | blast007 | if it's fixed there, then no problem |
| 20:24.47 | blast007 | bugs found in 2.0.8 are not an issue unless the same problem/bug exists in cvs HEAD |
| 20:25.13 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 20:25.18 | Gnurdux | it works on one server |
| 20:25.20 | CBG | So, we have to live with the bugs in 2.0 untill 2.1 - which is months away...? |
| 20:25.22 | Gnurdux | just not on another |
| 20:25.28 | Gnurdux | CBG, yes :( |
| 20:25.41 | L4m3r | CBG: I think they'll be fixed if they're major bugs |
| 20:25.51 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, not if JeffM2501 gets his way |
| 20:25.55 | Gnurdux | we're done |
| 20:26.01 | CBG | heh |
| 20:26.02 | blast007 | v2_0branch is locked for development, unless as L4m3r said, there is major problems |
| 20:26.47 | blast007 | we the people |
| 20:26.55 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:27.03 | L4m3r | he and the mouse in his pocket |
| 20:27.58 | L4m3r | ...Am I the only one who's heard that saying? lol |
| 20:29.05 | CBG | I guess so. |
| 20:29.26 | L4m3r | Guess it's a family thing. :P |
| 20:29.37 | CBG | TMI. |
| 20:29.50 | L4m3r | "What do you mean, 'we'? You got a mouse in your pocket?" |
| 20:30.04 | CBG | Why a mouse? |
| 20:30.13 | CBG | WOuldn't it be funnier with a bigger animal? |
| 20:30.14 | blast007 | cuz a cat was too big to fit |
| 20:30.16 | CBG | Like a... moose? |
| 20:30.30 | CBG | "You got a moose in your pocket?" |
| 20:30.34 | blast007 | if it was a moose, you wouldn't have to ask |
| 20:30.48 | CBG | But it'd be funnier :P |
| 20:30.49 | L4m3r | CBG, that's the canadian version |
| 20:30.52 | blast007 | lol |
| 20:31.01 | bryjen | 'cause a graphics tablet is too big ;) |
| 20:31.11 | blast007 | bryjen ;) |
| 20:31.14 | CBG | lol L4m3r |
| 20:31.16 | L4m3r | lol |
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| 21:00.28 | JeffM2501 | you had to wait months between 2.0.2 and 2.0.4 |
| 21:01.41 | L4m3r | Coincidentally (or not), 2.0.4 was probably the biggest improvement in the 2.0.x line... |
| 21:01.53 | JeffM2501 | it had a lot of work |
| 21:02.02 | JeffM2501 | yes 2.0. was a big one |
| 21:02.12 | L4m3r | purple_cow: bleh. You know what I meant :P |
| 21:02.13 | JeffM2501 | poor 1.8 |
| 21:02.22 | JeffM2501 | 1.8 would have rocked ;) |
| 21:02.29 | purple_cow | kind of... |
| 21:02.43 | JeffM2501 | it woudl have been a difrent path |
| 21:03.00 | L4m3r | what was special about 1.8? I've only tried 1.10... |
| 21:03.12 | JeffM2501 | 1.8 was "misunderstood" |
| 21:03.20 | JeffM2501 | it was never released |
| 21:03.24 | L4m3r | Ah. |
| 21:03.30 | gsnedders | what actually happened? |
| 21:03.54 | JeffM2501 | few people understood it enought work on it, so we scraped it and made 1.10 from the 1.7 codebase |
| 21:04.25 | gsnedders | heh. |
| 21:04.43 | L4m3r | what were you guys planning to do to it? |
| 21:04.44 | JeffM2501 | one of the few times I've seen a real group descision |
| 21:04.48 | JeffM2501 | plan? |
| 21:05.00 | purple_cow | what is this "plan" thing? |
| 21:05.06 | JeffM2501 | at the time of 1.7 it was the "head" |
| 21:05.08 | L4m3r | well, if no one understood it, someone had to get it there, right? :P |
| 21:05.09 | JeffM2501 | the dev version |
| 21:05.15 | L4m3r | Ah. |
| 21:05.17 | JeffM2501 | CRS stoped working on it and he knew most of it |
| 21:05.22 | JeffM2501 | the rest of us not so much.. |
| 21:05.27 | L4m3r | This was before the even/odd system then? |
| 21:05.41 | JeffM2501 | no you didn't CapitanProton did |
| 21:05.51 | JeffM2501 | god rest his soul |
| 21:05.52 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 21:05.58 | purple_cow | i know everything he knows |
| 21:06.07 | JeffM2501 | only cus you ate his brain ;) |
| 21:06.14 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, it is the reason FOR the even odd thing |
| 21:06.27 | JeffM2501 | I know I didn't get it |
| 21:06.32 | L4m3r | Heh |
| 21:06.33 | JeffM2501 | should go look at it now |
| 21:06.38 | bryjen | and _that's_ where mad cow disease came from ;) |
| 21:06.42 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:06.46 | L4m3r | forgive me, as I am a newb to this game ;) |
| 21:06.52 | JeffM2501 | is where bzdb game |
| 21:06.54 | JeffM2501 | came from |
| 21:07.02 | L4m3r | whoa, that is big |
| 21:07.04 | JeffM2501 | the only thing to realy move over |
| 21:07.07 | blast007 | 1.8 had rain, and the thief flag iirc |
| 21:07.14 | JeffM2501 | it had rain? |
| 21:07.22 | blast007 | pretty sure it did |
| 21:07.24 | JeffM2501 | it had XML worlds that could hold just about anything |
| 21:07.27 | blast007 | that was a long time ago |
| 21:07.28 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: yeah, i wrote rain for 1.8 |
| 21:07.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:07.43 | L4m3r | XML worlds?! >_> |
| 21:07.44 | JeffM2501 | I never got 1.8 to build so I never saw it |
| 21:07.46 | JeffM2501 | yaeh |
| 21:07.55 | L4m3r | Dayum. |
| 21:08.20 | JeffM2501 | back in the day when karma was promices to solve all problems ;) |
| 21:08.29 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:08.44 | L4m3r | Karma was just something that never materialized, right? |
| 21:08.56 | JeffM2501 | we have part of karma now |
| 21:08.56 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: you mean it hasn't solved all problems? |
| 21:09.07 | L4m3r | I've only heard offhand references |
| 21:09.08 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, heh |
| 21:09.20 | JeffM2501 | global login was needed for karma |
| 21:09.34 | JeffM2501 | so it's just taking a "long" time to finish I guess |
| 21:09.42 | L4m3r | heh |
| 21:10.03 | L4m3r | well, if I knew anything about phpBB I could help, but then you're trying to break away from all that anyway |
| 21:10.17 | JeffM2501 | it would be nice to be seperate |
| 21:10.18 | [NP]Tangent | phpbb = ick |
| 21:10.20 | [NP]Tangent | :P |
| 21:10.32 | JeffM2501 | and personaly I don't think karma will help much |
| 21:10.42 | [NP]Tangent | I like SMF |
| 21:10.44 | JeffM2501 | since we've seen that we can only get 5% reg |
| 21:10.56 | L4m3r | Nagware helps with that |
| 21:11.01 | JeffM2501 | slightly |
| 21:11.06 | L4m3r | no, hugely. |
| 21:11.10 | JeffM2501 | we've goten like 5% maybe WITH nagware |
| 21:11.25 | L4m3r | on major servers at least- look at silvercat |
| 21:11.39 | JeffM2501 | yes some of the big ones require it |
| 21:11.50 | L4m3r | I never thought I'd ever see a full 30-player server with 100% regged players |
| 21:11.56 | JeffM2501 | and I think just the act of reging helps them |
| 21:12.03 | JeffM2501 | don't know what more a karma score would add |
| 21:12.31 | JeffM2501 | since those servers are also generaly activly admined |
| 21:12.44 | L4m3r | Yeah, when your ass hat gets big enough you become notorious... |
| 21:12.56 | JeffM2501 | and your just IDbaned |
| 21:12.58 | JeffM2501 | and done with it |
| 21:13.00 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 21:13.09 | L4m3r | or hunted brutally by half the server |
| 21:13.19 | blast007 | does the masterban stuff support doing idbans? |
| 21:13.29 | JeffM2501 | it's a normal banlist |
| 21:13.34 | JeffM2501 | but what is the point |
| 21:13.42 | Mr_Molez | why do players need to be identified to play ? |
| 21:13.46 | JeffM2501 | easyer to just kill it at the db level |
| 21:13.52 | L4m3r | if you ban them from bzbb they can't auth them anyway right? |
| 21:13.56 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, they don't |
| 21:13.59 | Mr_Molez | oh ok |
| 21:14.08 | gsnedders | Mr_Molez: that's up to server permissions |
| 21:14.23 | JeffM2501 | I'm saying if karma was to have the impact it was thought it would in the old days, more servers would have to require it |
| 21:14.28 | JeffM2501 | and I just don't see that happening |
| 21:14.55 | JeffM2501 | that's why I'd rather see an opt in global admin team |
| 21:15.00 | L4m3r | some are actually afraid of regging, ha |
| 21:15.04 | JeffM2501 | as oposed to an opt out global karma club |
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| 21:15.36 | JeffM2501 | some are yes |
| 21:15.43 | JeffM2501 | that's why it's up to the server owner |
| 21:15.52 | L4m3r | One time some dude asked for admin at my server, and I told him he wasn't even registered, and he refused o_O |
| 21:15.59 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:16.04 | L4m3r | Um, no. |
| 21:16.06 | JeffM2501 | people will askfor anything |
| 21:16.45 | L4m3r | yeah, taking the decision out of my own hands by using mofo.cop makes it a lot easier :P |
| 21:16.57 | L4m3r | "sorry, adminship on my server isn't my problem" |
| 21:17.02 | JeffM2501 | if the goal is to provide a trusted admin team, for servers, then lets just do that and give them admin and a set of hard rules, not a set of fluffy "I like you" karma rules |
| 21:17.29 | JeffM2501 | then let server owners choose to use that global admin service if they want to |
| 21:17.42 | L4m3r | It seems to me that a global admin team would be a cause for controversy more than anything |
| 21:17.42 | blast007 | in my opinion, karma would just be abused |
| 21:17.55 | JeffM2501 | it had a trust factor to prevent abbuse |
| 21:18.05 | Mr_Molez | who says who is trusted |
| 21:18.06 | JeffM2501 | but yes it is more open to automated abbuse |
| 21:18.12 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, other trusted people |
| 21:18.20 | Mr_Molez | how do people become trusted |
| 21:18.32 | JeffM2501 | by other trusted people saying they trust them |
| 21:18.35 | L4m3r | We sorta have semi-global admin teams already- silvercat, norang, and mofo people have dominion over large ranges of servers |
| 21:18.37 | JeffM2501 | there is a seed group |
| 21:18.38 | Mr_Molez | lol ok |
| 21:18.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah see why I didn't like it ;) |
| 21:18.56 | Mr_Molez | cuz i can see loads of people becoming admin just cuz they are friends |
| 21:18.58 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, yes |
| 21:19.14 | JeffM2501 | I wish to take that to a higher level and offer it as a service for server ops |
| 21:19.24 | JeffM2501 | the tech is almost there |
| 21:19.33 | L4m3r | but the difference there is that we (well, mofo mostly) run our servers differently and stick to out own "turf" |
| 21:19.39 | L4m3r | our* |
| 21:19.45 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 21:19.54 | JeffM2501 | if we have all the tech we can have more then one global group |
| 21:20.04 | JeffM2501 | we offer one by default, and let groups of users make there own |
| 21:20.08 | JeffM2501 | that's my idea |
| 21:20.12 | L4m3r | There are very few people who would be good to admin at any server... |
| 21:20.20 | L4m3r | but I suppose it could work. |
| 21:20.25 | JeffM2501 | so it's kinda like "if you don't want to bother admining your server, let the default global group do it" |
| 21:20.32 | L4m3r | heh |
| 21:20.36 | JeffM2501 | if you want to do it your way, have at it.. here are some tools |
| 21:21.05 | JeffM2501 | and that default group has a well publicised set of rules, and procedures, etc.. |
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| 21:21.36 | cruel_dog | help |
| 21:21.37 | L4m3r | Well that's the thing, would using those groups imply a certain set of rules on your server? |
| 21:21.52 | cruel_dog | how to make that the server is configured for manual time matches? |
| 21:21.53 | JeffM2501 | only if you used the global admin team |
| 21:22.04 | JeffM2501 | you could take parts if you wanted |
| 21:22.07 | JeffM2501 | like just the banlist |
| 21:22.18 | JeffM2501 | and know that people will be added to the ban list based on the posted rules |
| 21:22.48 | JeffM2501 | but yes if you want the global team to activly admin your server, it would be on the global rules |
| 21:22.56 | JeffM2501 | it would be too confusing to have a set of rules per |
| 21:22.58 | cruel_dog | how to make that the server is configured for manual time matches? |
| 21:23.09 | JeffM2501 | if you wanted that then make your own group with it's own rules, and just get some admins into it |
| 21:23.24 | Mr_Molez | cruel_dog: timemanual |
| 21:23.28 | Mr_Molez | cruel_dog: -timemanual |
| 21:23.29 | cruel_dog | nope |
| 21:23.31 | cruel_dog | it doesnt work |
| 21:23.40 | Mr_Molez | cruel_dog: u also need -time |
| 21:23.45 | Mr_Molez | -time 1800 or something |
| 21:24.05 | cruel_dog | i putted -timemanual and it stills says "the server is not configured for manual matches countdowns" |
| 21:24.06 | L4m3r | Just make the rules relatively lax, I say ;) |
| 21:24.13 | cruel_dog | no |
| 21:24.15 | cruel_dog | oh |
| 21:24.17 | cruel_dog | nbut |
| 21:24.21 | cruel_dog | i dont want to have time |
| 21:24.28 | cruel_dog | time only when a match is on |
| 21:24.34 | Mr_Molez | uhh |
| 21:24.45 | Mr_Molez | whats the use of having timemanual if you dont have a time ? |
| 21:24.45 | cruel_dog | if there is -time, some time will allready be setted, and i dont want that |
| 21:24.54 | cruel_dog | like |
| 21:24.58 | cruel_dog | to start a match |
| 21:25.03 | cruel_dog | nvm...i am gonna try |
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| 21:25.10 | Mr_Molez | uhh |
| 21:30.34 | L4m3r | Neat. |
| 21:32.54 | trepan | format clear enough? |
| 21:33.11 | trepan | any specific triggers you'd want added? |
| 21:33.21 | L4m3r | this is customizeable correct? |
| 21:33.36 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.43 | L4m3r | let's see... autohunt by callsign would be nice |
| 21:33.56 | trepan | just use the normal hunt feature |
| 21:34.16 | bryjen | what's the question mark do? |
| 21:34.31 | trepan | CL?L if I have CL, hunt L |
| 21:34.48 | L4m3r | also, would it be possible to add a "friend" hunt? something that looks different? |
| 21:35.06 | L4m3r | it'd hard to do cooperative hunting :D |
| 21:35.06 | bryjen | many things are possible, L4m3r |
| 21:36.51 | JeffM2501 | if somone moved over my hud markers, it can do temmate markers |
| 21:37.00 | bryjen | CBG, brad : who had the flagless poles this morning? |
| 21:37.04 | JeffM2501 | and flag markers |
| 21:37.15 | JeffM2501 | trepan, new poles look nice |
| 21:37.19 | L4m3r | they're not necessarily teammates ;) |
| 21:37.27 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:37.49 | trepan | JeffM2501: heh, i had to merge them in from old crap |
| 21:37.51 | L4m3r | say, H0ley and I, both rogue, tag-team kicking Harmless in the nuts. |
| 21:38.00 | L4m3r | >:D |
| 21:38.08 | trepan | the real ones were lod'ed spheres/cylinders :) |
| 21:38.45 | bryjen | yes, they're very nice poles... |
| 21:39.24 | L4m3r | but JeffM, hunt markers would be nice. |
| 21:39.38 | trepan | check the data sent to glDrawElements() for an LOD 0 call |
| 21:39.42 | L4m3r | If there was a friend hunt, you could have it put all teammates on friend-hunt |
| 21:39.45 | trepan | should describe a quad |
| 21:40.25 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.42 | L4m3r | And how about some sort of highlighting of the target out the window as well? |
| 21:41.03 | L4m3r | put a small marker over their head or make them glow or something |
| 21:41.25 | CBG | bryjen: I had just-poles. brad said flags were fine for him. |
| 21:41.45 | trepan | JeffM2501: and not to be a complete ah, thanks ;) |
| 21:42.01 | trepan | it's just that they really looked much nicer with the cube mapping and all |
| 21:45.35 | trepan | L4m3r: could add a TEAMMATE keyword, although I find it kind of pointless |
| 21:46.02 | L4m3r | No, it would only be useful if there was a different sort of hunt |
| 21:46.52 | L4m3r | (not that teamwork is a common occurrence anyhow) |
| 21:47.27 | JeffM2501 | the detail is nice, the little diamond at the top, the base... it shows |
| 21:47.54 | trepan | might as well throw in an ADMIN keyword, or maybe i'm paranoid |
| 21:48.27 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, hunt marikers are done in playground |
| 21:48.33 | L4m3r | :) |
| 21:48.35 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure they will be moved over at some point |
| 21:48.39 | JeffM2501 | hunt and flag markers |
| 21:48.43 | L4m3r | Sweet. |
| 21:48.51 | JeffM2501 | but you can add a marker for anything |
| 21:48.54 | L4m3r | flag markers as in teamflags only, right? |
| 21:48.56 | JeffM2501 | it's a generic marker system |
| 21:48.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:49.05 | JeffM2501 | like "where is my flag" |
| 21:49.10 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 21:49.22 | JeffM2501 | I thinkI did 2 types too |
| 21:49.34 | trepan | JeffM2501: the only call in the new file is AutoHunt::update(), so it should be easy for you to tie it in ;) |
| 21:49.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:49.52 | JeffM2501 | well for somone(tm) |
| 21:56.13 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: start breaking up the big switch in handleServerMessage to call sub functions. |
| 21:57.00 | bryjen | yeay, cvs is back |
| 22:00.11 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (mountain4.png mountain5.png mountain6.png Makefile.am): once thought lost to antiquity, but discovered on a dig into 1.8... mountans 4,5 and 6... triumphantly return! |
| 22:01.15 | JeffM2501 | ahhh.... 1.8 == VC6...it burns us... |
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| 22:02.53 | TimRiker | ooh, mountains. |
| 22:03.29 | JeffM2501 | we had been running wtih 3 and dealing with the graphical gaps for so long.... |
| 22:04.10 | L4m3r | which reminds me, is there a reserved name for the mountain texture? it'd be nice to define your own in maps |
| 22:04.17 | Tupone | I actually hate the mountains as they were some times ago, as they make me feel bad. hope you did not put it back the same way |
| 22:04.31 | Tupone | I like open space |
| 22:04.39 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, no, not the ones I redid |
| 22:04.50 | JeffM2501 | these are same images, just the other 1/2 of them |
| 22:05.17 | JeffM2501 | when I did those new iamges, and they wern't liked, only the old 1,2, and 3 were put back |
| 22:05.26 | JeffM2501 | but the old ones realy had 1-6 |
| 22:05.36 | JeffM2501 | so we only had half of the old ones |
| 22:05.54 | JeffM2501 | 1.8 had all 6 |
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| 22:06.45 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: now you just need to reimplement pybzflag's mountains |
| 22:06.55 | JeffM2501 | and your clouds |
| 22:06.58 | JeffM2501 | your clouds rocked |
| 22:07.12 | purple_cow | they were ok |
| 22:07.15 | purple_cow | nothing spectacular |
| 22:07.29 | JeffM2501 | compared to the sheet of bloby textures? |
| 22:07.42 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 22:07.51 | purple_cow | but compared to something like MS flight sim, they're shoddy |
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| 22:08.22 | Gnurdux | brad, it ends the match when one team gets a certain number of captures |
| 22:08.22 | JeffM2501 | good thing it's a tank game, not a flight sim ;) |
| 22:08.36 | brad | Gnurdux: isn't that already possible? |
| 22:08.42 | Gnurdux | no |
| 22:08.43 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: well, with wings... |
| 22:08.43 | brad | just a config option? |
| 22:08.45 | Gnurdux | there is maxteamscore |
| 22:08.52 | Gnurdux | but thats a certain teamscore |
| 22:08.53 | brad | what's the difference |
| 22:08.56 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, it's still not a flight sim ;) |
| 22:08.57 | Gnurdux | not a number of captures |
| 22:08.59 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: but in my ideal world, that much effort *would* be put into things like clouds ;) |
| 22:09.00 | brad | ahh |
| 22:09.05 | purple_cow | even for a tank game |
| 22:09.28 | JeffM2501 | but in your ideal world, projects are finished ;) |
| 22:09.32 | brad | Gnurdux: is there an event for when someone teamkills? |
| 22:09.39 | Gnurdux | there is a kill event |
| 22:09.43 | Gnurdux | you can check if its a tk |
| 22:09.46 | brad | ah |
| 22:09.47 | brad | ok |
| 22:09.48 | brad | thanks |
| 22:10.19 | JeffM2501 | man ogg/vorbis is a pain to build |
| 22:10.33 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: clean-ups are good, but don't forget the breaks |
| 22:10.54 | JeffM2501 | where did I forget a break? |
| 22:12.04 | bryjen | MsgMessage was flowing on down into MsgTransferFlag :/ |
| 22:12.15 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 22:12.55 | JeffM2501 | that must have been busted for a while |
| 22:12.58 | bryjen | I donno who for sure. Looked like someone may have broken MsgMsg out into a function and missed da brake |
| 22:13.06 | JeffM2501 | oh I'm sure it was me if it was server side |
| 22:13.39 | bryjen | it's what I was talking about earlier. send someone a PM, and you'd send them your flag too ;) |
| 22:13.47 | JeffM2501 | HA |
| 22:13.55 | JeffM2501 | amazing it worked |
| 22:13.59 | bryjen | even to an observer :) |
| 22:14.04 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 22:14.10 | JeffM2501 | see testing is good :) |
| 22:14.14 | bryjen | and the observer could send it back |
| 22:14.25 | bryjen | possibly even to someone else. didn't try that... |
| 22:14.30 | JeffM2501 | so you could have an observer be a "flag store" |
| 22:16.24 | PuMpErNiCkLe | What's the address of the playground server? |
| 22:16.39 | TheRedBaron | what a way to get rid of bad flags |
| 22:16.46 | JeffM2501 | it would be the only one listed PuMpErNiCkLe |
| 22:17.07 | PuMpErNiCkLe | There aren't any being listed. |
| 22:17.18 | JeffM2501 | well then.... |
| 22:17.23 | bryjen | mine is only on 6P to 6A CDT |
| 22:17.34 | JeffM2501 | that means there isn't one |
| 22:17.39 | bryjen | and the list in the playground client may be b0rken |
| 22:17.48 | JeffM2501 | it may be |
| 22:17.56 | JeffM2501 | but then so are more important things |
| 22:17.59 | JeffM2501 | like shooting |
| 22:18.15 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hehe |
| 22:18.37 | bryjen | Odd, I hear a shot... |
| 22:18.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah the IDs are jacked up |
| 22:19.05 | bryjen | hehe |
| 22:19.16 | JeffM2501 | tho even if you did shoot me, I'd not die |
| 22:19.26 | JeffM2501 | just take some shield damage |
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| 22:21.32 | TheRedBaron | no one shot, one kill flag/feature ? |
| 22:21.39 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:21.43 | JeffM2501 | you can get close |
| 22:21.53 | JeffM2501 | not if they are at full power |
| 22:21.55 | JeffM2501 | you can get close |
| 22:22.01 | JeffM2501 | if you charge |
| 22:23.42 | TheRedBaron | and yell "Bonzai!!"? |
| 22:23.54 | JeffM2501 | if that helps you... sure |
| 22:25.23 | TheRedBaron | nah, it only serves to annoy those around me |
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| 22:36.37 | prodigy0987 | sveet |
| 22:36.48 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hehehe... trigger happy is wacked |
| 22:37.15 | JeffM2501 | in playground? |
| 22:42.08 | Mr_Molez | ~bzflist |
| 22:42.44 | PuMpErNiCkLe | yeah, playground |
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| 23:05.55 | JeffM2501 | PuMpErNiCkLe, dosn't suprise me, I have to finish removing all the bad flags |
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| 23:35.04 | Mr_Molez | its the coolest person ever |
| 23:35.06 | Mr_Molez | Death_Barrel !! |
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| 23:40.12 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (9 files): added AutoHunt feature |
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| 23:54.26 | CBG` | Ok, so I downgraded my QuickTime a while ago as folks here told me it was the only way I'd be able to compile bzflag from source/cvs - the thing is - garageband requires the later QuickTime... |
| 23:54.32 | CBG` | Will I be able to compile bzflag with the new quicktime now, or does the problem still exist? |
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| 23:55.13 | tokimi | any one remember who made 0tto? |
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| 23:57.01 | Gnurdux | hi TD-Linux |
| 23:57.05 | Gnurdux | i mean Tropican8 |
| 23:57.23 | Tropican8 | lol I'm insulted you mistook me for him |
| 23:57.23 | TD-Linux | hi :) |
| 23:57.38 | Tropican8 | TD-Linux: :-) |
| 23:57.43 | TD-Linux | I'm insulted that you were insulted that you mistook him for me |
| 23:57.54 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 23:57.59 | CBG` | I'm insulted that I get ignored here :P |
| 23:58.01 | menotume | I resemble that remark |
| 23:58.38 | menotume | what deos quickTime have to do with bzflag ? |
| 23:58.45 | Tropican8 | Nothing, why? |
| 23:58.58 | Tropican8 | Unless you listen to iTunes while playing |
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| 23:59.20 | CBG` | menotume: god knows, but the advice worked. |
| 23:59.31 | TD-Linux | QT could be 3 things :) |
| 23:59.41 | Tropican8 | or maybe you are using a quicktime mixer for sound? though I don't think there's even code for that. |
| 23:59.54 | CBG` | I couldn't compile with QT 7.0.4 - they said to downgrade, I thought they were joking, did it anyway and voila I _could_ compile. |
