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| 00:24.59 | DreamTheater | So I need some help with a problem pertaining to BZFlag. |
| 00:25.10 | blast007 | ask your question :) |
| 00:25.58 | DreamTheater | Whenever I open it now(not in window mode) it uses only about 1/3 of the screen. Its still full size, but I see only part of the playing field. |
| 00:26.28 | blast007 | so part of the screen is just black? |
| 00:27.24 | DreamTheater | Top left quarter kind of, more than a quarter of it though. Actually, its not black. Its my desktop. If I click off the playing field, it will minimize bz and go to the desktop. I swear its not in window mode either. |
| 00:27.58 | DreamTheater | If I fool with the resolutions in BZ, it will sometimes begin working, but not always. |
| 00:29.03 | JeffM2501 | I've said it before, and I'll say it again... crapy crapy drivers ;) |
| 00:29.23 | blast007 | probaby ran Windowed mode, and it saved the Geometry setting |
| 00:29.25 | JeffM2501 | it's probalby not doing stencel right |
| 00:29.25 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 00:29.35 | JeffM2501 | config blow out is the simple fix |
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| 00:30.06 | DreamTheater | crap, sorry. I got disconnected or something |
| 00:30.14 | JeffM2501 | open your config |
| 00:30.22 | JeffM2501 | see if you have lines for set window and set geometry |
| 00:30.28 | blast007 | I just add "-geometry default" to the end of my shortcut target for the full screen client |
| 00:30.29 | JeffM2501 | if you do, delete them |
| 00:30.50 | JeffM2501 | blast007, yeah that'll clear it out |
| 00:30.58 | JeffM2501 | I see it happen when people run with just -window |
| 00:31.01 | JeffM2501 | but not -geometry |
| 00:31.14 | JeffM2501 | why the setings are seperate, I'll NEVER know |
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| 01:24.18 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (27 files in 5 dirs): |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: send the shot descriptor along with shot messages. |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: don't use the silly flag for shot tests, use the descriptor. |
| 01:24.19 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: make hits not kill you if they don't do enough damage. |
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| 01:45.47 | spldart | How would I go about applying a different 'texture' image to each face of a 3d image? |
| 01:46.01 | spldart | or rather 3d model |
| 01:46.14 | JeffM2501 | by hand? or in a 3d editor? |
| 01:46.21 | spldart | by hand say |
| 01:46.29 | JeffM2501 | in bzflag maps |
| 01:46.30 | JeffM2501 | use a mesh |
| 01:46.38 | JeffM2501 | and define a material per face |
| 01:46.58 | JeffM2501 | and give each face UV maping coordinates so it knows how to map the texture onto the face |
| 01:47.03 | spldart | so a mesh can be a plane defined by mesh and the texture can be applied to that? |
| 01:47.43 | spldart | oopsy... my question was not worded clearly but the meaning it evident methinks |
| 01:48.05 | JeffM2501 | a mesh is any colection of faces |
| 01:48.18 | spldart | or it could be one face too? |
| 01:48.20 | JeffM2501 | a face is a plane defined by 3 or more points |
| 01:48.24 | JeffM2501 | a mesh can have one face sure |
| 01:48.30 | spldart | okies |
| 01:48.31 | JeffM2501 | a mesh can have more then one |
| 01:48.32 | spldart | thanks |
| 01:48.40 | JeffM2501 | you can do a material per face if you want |
| 01:48.46 | L4m3r | mesh has a sub-object called a face, so you can do a matref on that or on the whole thing |
| 01:48.48 | JeffM2501 | honestly, use a 3d editor |
| 01:48.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a LOT easyer |
| 01:49.19 | L4m3r | ...but I do simpler shapes |
| 01:49.23 | spldart | I haven't really got the hang of 3d modelling yet.. my best effort was that air hockey table way back when |
| 01:49.36 | JeffM2501 | spldart, you will find that meshes become very complex |
| 01:49.44 | JeffM2501 | and hard to visualise as just numbers in a text file |
| 01:49.50 | JeffM2501 | UV coordiantes are even worse |
| 01:49.50 | L4m3r | I mainly do stuff that's just out of reach of BZW transformation... |
| 01:50.01 | L4m3r | lol I don't even go there |
| 01:50.43 | spldart | hrm.. lightwave wasn't the one that had the bz plugin though was it? |
| 01:51.11 | L4m3r | that was blender. |
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| 01:51.22 | L4m3r | so if you're gonna learn something, learn that :P |
| 01:51.29 | L4m3r | plus, blender is free... heh |
| 01:51.44 | spldart | hrm... lemme look into blender |
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| 02:22.09 | spldart | was using wings but hrm.. |
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| 02:57.11 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (21 files in 6 dirs): remove colorblind flag |
| 03:16.48 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (Roster.cxx Roster.h playing.cxx): a few missing #ifdef's to make configure --disable-robots build |
| 03:22.41 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): initialize some variables to quiet some warnings |
| 03:28.06 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 03:32.00 | SportChick | ~seen brlcad |
| 03:32.19 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #bzflag (1d 10h 26m 29s) #brlcad (1d 10h 26m 29s). Has said a total of 152 messages. Is idling for 6h 45m 37s, last said: 'well, that's cheating :)'. |
| 03:32.21 | SportChick | ~seen Jeffm2501 |
| 03:32.24 | ibot | jeffm2501 <n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1h 42m 34s ago, saying: 'UV coordiantes are even worse'. |
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| 04:15.14 | JeffM2501 | Ancient Weapons and Hokey Religions are no match for a good blaster at your side. |
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| 04:15.43 | supertanker | greetings, mere mortals |
| 04:16.00 | JeffM2501 | wow.. what a way to make friends and influence people |
| 04:16.34 | supertanker | I felt like making a dramatic entrance. I'm back to normal. Really! |
| 04:16.58 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 04:17.06 | JeffM2501 | vanity will be your downfall |
| 04:19.16 | SportChick | brlcad: ping me when you're back - and ping loud, I'll be in the other room |
| 04:46.53 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/date/buildDate.cxx: packing change == proto bump |
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| 04:50.40 | supertanker | I'm back from the land of random lockups |
| 04:52.12 | supertanker | so what do you guys think of my site? |
| 04:58.54 | JeffM2501 | is it the same as it was yesterday? |
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| 05:58.39 | L4m3r | What size ass hat must one wear for you guys to take notice (curious)? |
| 06:00.20 | JeffM2501 | depends? |
| 06:00.24 | JeffM2501 | who's doing what now? |
| 06:00.27 | L4m3r | lol |
| 06:00.35 | JeffM2501 | mostly it depends where |
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| 06:08.57 | L4m3r | normally I wouldn't care but now he's accusing me of cheating because I beat him a few times, and a few believe him |
| 06:08.57 | JeffM2501 | who and where? |
| 06:08.57 | L4m3r | harmless, some servers, BZBB |
| 06:08.57 | L4m3r | PM |
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| 06:24.05 | Quellism | Hey. I was wondering how I can make bzflag run in windowed mode? |
| 06:24.18 | L4m3r | add -window to the command line |
| 06:24.25 | Quellism | oh, ok |
| 06:24.25 | Quellism | thanks |
| 06:24.28 | SportChick | ~wake brlcad |
| 06:24.30 | ibot | brlcad: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 06:24.30 | L4m3r | np :) |
| 06:29.17 | _Manu_ | ~sleep SportChick |
| 06:29.18 | ibot | ACTION sends SportChick to bed without supper |
| 06:29.25 | SportChick | :( |
| 06:29.27 | _Manu_ | :) |
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| 13:07.04 | SportChick | brlcad: ping please :) |
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| 13:50.40 | brlcad | SportChick: I'll be back in a couple hours |
| 13:51.07 | SportChick | pfft |
| 13:51.12 | SportChick | brlcad: I'll be at work |
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| 14:40.54 | SportChick | yay!!! |
| 14:41.01 | SportChick | brlcad: I've done some testing |
| 14:41.03 | SportChick | pm? |
| 14:41.08 | brlcad | sure |
| 14:45.01 | SportChick | brlcad: can you see my pms? |
| 14:47.12 | brlcad | of course |
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| 15:02.07 | TheRedBaron | what are the minum hardware requirements to run/play bzflag? |
| 15:03.17 | sussi | 2fps |
| 15:03.49 | TheRedBaron | perferably, i'd like to run over 30fps |
| 15:04.03 | TheRedBaron | and I don't mind little pink buildings |
| 15:09.26 | SportChick | brlcad: can you fix it? |
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| 15:20.17 | brlcad | of course not, impossible -- you'll never be able to post there ever again |
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| 15:21.06 | orange | actually, this whole thing is rather interesting to me... the mod_security thing almost seems to stop things randomly sometimes |
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| 15:21.22 | orange | I guess it logs the rule it hit, brlcad? |
| 15:21.23 | SportChick | :( |
| 15:32.37 | brlcad | i disabled those checks, they shouldn't be a problem any more |
| 15:32.52 | brlcad | orange: yes it does, you can see them in /var/log/httpd/audit.log |
| 15:33.13 | brlcad | it shows the data as well as the rule that it matched |
| 15:33.59 | brlcad | she was hitting a generic SQL injection check that checks if form data being posted looks like SQL code.. her message just happened to look like it had an SQL statement embedded in it |
| 15:34.38 | brlcad | a somewhat overzealous check to say the least for a general bulletin board |
| 15:37.44 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
| 15:37.46 | brlcad | if anyone gets a 403, please let me know so that rule can be looked into -- probably will just disable it, but need to know the situations that cause it so we don't open ourselves to some vulnerability -- mod_security has caught several hundred instrusion attempts already as well as bogus registrations and other nasties |
| 15:37.59 | brlcad | sup T |
| 15:38.17 | Thumper_ | I'm away on a bus. trip and just now got the query from menotume about the logs |
| 15:38.24 | Thumper_ | he can look at anything he wants |
| 15:38.28 | Thumper_ | re hte blastnnnn issue |
| 15:38.37 | Thumper_ | logs are zipped by day so s/b easy to fine |
| 15:38.38 | brlcad | okay, thanks |
| 15:38.41 | Thumper_ | find* |
| 15:38.50 | Thumper_ | I think I included the UTC timestamp in the msg |
| 15:38.59 | brlcad | i figured as much, but i wouldn't assume that of any server running |
| 15:39.00 | Thumper_ | I'm driving home today and tomorrow |
| 15:39.06 | Thumper_ | wont' be back until evening |
| 15:39.20 | Thumper_ | sorry for 'dropping' this issue |
| 15:39.30 | brlcad | actually glad menotume asked, that's the best way -- he has access |
| 15:39.37 | Thumper_ | yes he said that |
| 15:39.44 | Thumper_ | but he's not on line for me to talk to |
| 15:39.48 | Thumper_ | and i'm drivnig in 10 mintues for 4 hrs |
| 15:39.52 | Thumper_ | and another 6 tomorrow |
| 15:39.52 | brlcad | yeah, I'll relay the message |
| 15:39.56 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 15:39.57 | brlcad | sounds like fun :) |
| 15:40.55 | Thumper_ | It will be - 1990 Tbird SC 5 spd manual :) |
| 15:41.02 | Thumper_ | and lots of tunes |
| 15:41.13 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 15:41.19 | Thumper_ | bye all |
| 15:41.31 | brlcad | nice! |
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| 16:31.10 | supertanker | hello |
| 16:32.40 | _Manu_ | hi |
| 16:33.02 | supertanker | anything exciting going on? |
| 16:33.46 | blast007 | nope |
| 16:35.17 | supertanker | has anyone made a bzflag RPM using rpmbuild? it keeps saying the legacy copyright tag is unsupported |
| 16:36.33 | supertanker | just a mineut i'm going to switch to X-IRC |
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| 16:39.48 | supertanker | back |
| 16:43.29 | supertanker | does anyone think my site sucks? |
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| 17:05.58 | supertanker_ | BAM! (sorry had to break the silence) |
| 17:06.48 | JeffM2501 | no.. no you didn't |
| 17:07.11 | JeffM2501 | perhaps #bzchat is more for you if you want a more chitchat channel |
| 17:11.05 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501, What would be the minium hardware requirements to run bzflag? |
| 17:11.21 | JeffM2501 | would depend at what res |
| 17:11.26 | JeffM2501 | and what quality level |
| 17:11.34 | JeffM2501 | I mean with all the stuff turned off on a small map |
| 17:11.35 | TheRedBaron | lets say Low |
| 17:11.43 | JeffM2501 | I know people use old P2s |
| 17:12.00 | JeffM2501 | maps like loumans will not run well of course |
| 17:12.04 | JeffM2501 | it's realy the map that does it |
| 17:12.08 | JeffM2501 | not the game itself |
| 17:12.09 | TheRedBaron | ok, for a player like me, who enjoys a large radar, and simple maps |
| 17:12.17 | JeffM2501 | what res? |
| 17:12.20 | TheRedBaron | like GU, ducati, and hepcat |
| 17:12.26 | TheRedBaron | 1024x768 |
| 17:12.40 | JeffM2501 | what framerate do you consider acceptable? |
| 17:13.00 | TheRedBaron | 60fps |
| 17:13.04 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 17:13.05 | TheRedBaron | but i've tolerated 30fps |
| 17:13.18 | JeffM2501 | then you want like a P3 with an openGL card |
| 17:13.24 | JeffM2501 | at least like a Geforece2MX or something |
| 17:13.29 | JeffM2501 | and a gig CPU |
| 17:13.33 | JeffM2501 | for that high of a frame rate |
| 17:13.38 | JeffM2501 | at that res |
| 17:13.50 | TheRedBaron | ok |
| 17:13.54 | JeffM2501 | that's outside the general limit of what software rendering can do |
| 17:14.08 | JeffM2501 | if 10-15 at 640 was oki for you |
| 17:14.11 | JeffM2501 | then software may do it |
| 17:14.15 | TheRedBaron | ew! |
| 17:14.21 | JeffM2501 | for many that is playable |
| 17:14.33 | JeffM2501 | most people can't tell the diff over 20ish fps |
| 17:14.41 | JeffM2501 | that's why movies are done at 24 |
| 17:14.46 | JeffM2501 | and TV is 30 |
| 17:14.54 | TheRedBaron | I can tell a difference between 30fps and 60fps |
| 17:14.56 | orange | or 15, depending on how you look at it |
| 17:15.04 | TheRedBaron | and 60fps - 120 |
| 17:15.06 | orange | or is it 30/60? |
| 17:15.11 | JeffM2501 | it's 60 fields |
| 17:15.13 | JeffM2501 | 30 frames |
| 17:15.30 | orange | yes, that's right |
| 17:15.35 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, you can probably tell due to vsycn issues with your display, not because of the actual framerate |
| 17:15.53 | TheRedBaron | hrm |
| 17:16.05 | JeffM2501 | but what ever floats your boat |
| 17:16.07 | TheRedBaron | I can settle for 30fps |
| 17:16.20 | JeffM2501 | still for that you'd want a hardware T&L card |
| 17:16.38 | JeffM2501 | what system are you looking at? |
| 17:18.13 | TheRedBaron | Looking for a laptop, low end, that could support bz |
| 17:18.27 | JeffM2501 | techincaly any comptuer will run it |
| 17:18.28 | TheRedBaron | looking at a dell c600 |
| 17:18.34 | JeffM2501 | what video chipset |
| 17:18.49 | TheRedBaron | let me check |
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| 17:25.22 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: ATi Rage Mobility 128 AGP 2X |
| 17:26.09 | JeffM2501 | you won't get 30 |
| 17:26.13 | JeffM2501 | you won't get 15 |
| 17:26.22 | JeffM2501 | how fast is the CPU? |
| 17:26.32 | TheRedBaron | 850mhz |
| 17:27.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah the video wont be able to keep up |
| 17:27.16 | JeffM2501 | if it had like a geFOrce2Go in it, maybe |
| 17:27.25 | JeffM2501 | I own a dell with that video chipset |
| 17:27.36 | JeffM2501 | no only is it buggy, it's slow |
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| 17:31.46 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: my Pentium M 1.6GHz with a intel 855 only gets about 30FPS on gamesunited |
| 17:32.09 | blast007 | that's with most of the settings turned up though |
| 17:32.13 | JeffM2501 | blast007, well that's cus your video can't keep up ;) |
| 17:32.26 | blast007 | that's cuz the video card sucks |
| 17:32.39 | JeffM2501 | having hardware T&L realy helps the speed |
| 17:32.41 | blast007 | it butchers texture quality :) |
| 17:32.43 | TheRedBaron | blast007, Yes, i'm familiar with the intel series |
| 17:32.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:32.59 | TheRedBaron | I turn everything off, and play with little pink buildings :) |
| 17:33.55 | JeffM2501 | for what you want TheRedBaron an ATI radeon, or Geforce will be needed |
| 17:33.55 | blast007 | and I really hate the intel display drivers |
| 17:33.56 | JeffM2501 | those are the GPU series cards |
| 17:35.21 | blast007 | http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,172,0) |
| 17:35.36 | blast007 | SLI in a laptop :/ |
| 17:36.10 | L4m3r | does it have a spot in between to fry eggs? |
| 17:36.33 | blast007 | probably |
| 17:36.54 | L4m3r | they should call it "The sterilizer" :P |
| 17:37.02 | JeffM2501 | SLI with lower end cards dosn't get that hot |
| 17:37.17 | JeffM2501 | I was doing SLI on 6600 GTs and was fanless |
| 17:37.29 | L4m3r | wow |
| 17:37.58 | L4m3r | my one 6600gt has a fan and still runs in the 50s.... but there's no airflow in that spot in the case |
| 17:38.01 | JeffM2501 | my 7800GTX now is the quietest thing in the comptuer |
| 17:38.16 | JeffM2501 | and it's not even double wide |
| 17:38.30 | JeffM2501 | and remember that is a 7800 GO |
| 17:38.35 | JeffM2501 | not a desktop one |
| 17:38.39 | JeffM2501 | very difreent beast |
| 17:38.57 | sussi | isnt there also issues with the display? |
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| 18:01.21 | brad | global logins seem to be down/slow |
| 18:01.51 | JeffM2501 | list responds fine for me |
| 18:02.02 | brad | quite a few with - by their names |
| 18:02.24 | Mr_Molez | mine was ok |
| 18:02.26 | JeffM2501 | maybe that server has a bad or slow route |
| 18:02.56 | _Manu_ | also works for me |
| 18:03.04 | brad | err yeah it's ok now :) |
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| 19:06.22 | CBG | global auth seems to be playing up today, or is that just me? |
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| 19:13.52 | brlcad | CBG: "playing up" means what? |
| 19:14.36 | brlcad | should be very responsive now, no more issues being worked on |
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| 19:38.25 | CBG | brlcad: well, it won't work sometimes. .. |
| 19:38.39 | CBG | as in, I log onto a server with correct name and pass, but don't get global identification. |
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| 19:48.41 | CBG | Yes, same problem for others too. |
| 19:49.21 | uso | does bzflag do anything with FSAA settings, i.e. oversteers it? |
| 19:50.42 | uso | haven't tested global today, but at least last night it still had problems, worked or worked not |
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| 21:21.42 | uso | are there virtual hosts activated at the new listserver? |
| 21:22.10 | uso | i always get an error message from an RTFM server :( |
| 21:22.51 | uso | bz.bzflag,bz powered by FreeBSD |
| 21:23.17 | brlcad | yes, a slew are activated |
| 21:23.23 | brlcad | bz.bzflag.bz is something else |
| 21:23.26 | Tupone | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/53322 |
| 21:23.40 | uso | grrrr, my portforwarding does not work anymore :(( |
| 21:23.55 | brlcad | ciao signore |
| 21:23.58 | uso | and port 81 also isn't available anymore? |
| 21:24.04 | Tupone | hi Mr |
| 21:24.22 | Tupone | ~seen trepan |
| 21:24.35 | ibot | trepan <n=trepan@unaffiliated/trepan> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 3d 3h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'and the effect?'. |
| 21:24.35 | brlcad | Tupone: woot, the old gl check still works.. |
| 21:24.42 | blast007 | uso: 81 works for me |
| 21:24.48 | brlcad | did you turn it on specifically, or does debug auto turn it on |
| 21:25.15 | Tupone | brlcad: I just enabled core on this machine to fix crashes like this |
| 21:25.54 | uso | blast007: yes, but it's the same, also virtual hosts |
| 21:25.57 | brlcad | Tupone: but I mean the glBegin/glEnd matching checking... did you enable that specifically, or is it enabled with debug? |
| 21:26.03 | Tupone | but then I get a supplemental message :) |
| 21:26.15 | Tupone | dunno, first time I see |
| 21:26.22 | brlcad | ahh, k |
| 21:26.24 | Tupone | I use debug |
| 21:26.46 | brlcad | yeah, I wrote the first check for that to catch things like that from happening.. hadn't looked at that code in ages |
| 21:27.25 | brlcad | nice to see it still works |
| 21:27.41 | Tupone | but need someone to use actually |
| 21:28.04 | Tupone | warning are nothing without anyone tha analyze they |
| 21:28.19 | brlcad | i don't think i'd call that a warning ;) |
| 21:28.25 | Tupone | lol |
| 21:28.50 | brlcad | line 920 is a start :) |
| 21:29.26 | brlcad | but yeah, that's trepan code |
| 21:29.46 | blast007 | uso: it all works just fine for me :/ |
| 21:31.02 | Tupone | core has been cut :/ Have to increase limits |
| 21:31.58 | uso | blast007: yes, but virtual host seems not to work with port forwarding as apache parses the request and switches to the wrong host |
| 21:32.27 | blast007 | uso: what URL isn't working for you? |
| 21:32.57 | uso | with port forwarding i have localhost in the url ;) |
| 21:33.11 | blast007 | why? |
| 21:33.13 | Tupone | I got it again, now core is ok :) |
| 21:33.23 | blast007 | what does the give you? |
| 21:33.24 | blast007 | that* |
| 21:33.44 | uso | an error page from an RTFM server |
| 21:33.52 | blast007 | I mean, I can see doing what I do, and pass the list through a filter |
| 21:33.57 | uso | powered by FreeBSD :) |
| 21:33.59 | blast007 | I mean, what benefit does it give you |
| 21:34.12 | uso | i can access it from work ;) |
| 21:34.40 | blast007 | your work blocks web access? |
| 21:35.58 | uso | no, but bzflag does not use a the proxy |
| 21:36.16 | blast007 | and 81 doesn't work? |
| 21:36.43 | uso | no, either http proxy to 80 or port forwarding |
| 21:37.28 | uso | i could use the proxy for 81 too, but bzflag does not |
| 21:37.35 | blast007 | you could probably use the cURL library to do some proxy forwarding stuff |
| 21:37.48 | blast007 | even a PHP script to read the list via the proxy |
| 21:38.07 | uso | it'n not the list, global auth is the problem |
| 21:38.39 | uso | the list i can fake |
| 21:39.02 | uso | but i don't know how auth works in detail |
| 21:39.05 | Tupone | 916 glBegin(GL_LINES); |
| 21:39.05 | Tupone | 917 for (int i = 0; i < HUDNumCracks; i++) |
| 21:39.05 | Tupone | 918 { |
| 21:39.05 | Tupone | 919 glLineWidth(5.0); |
| 21:39.06 | Tupone | 920 glBegin(GL_LINES); |
| 21:39.13 | Tupone | brlcad ? |
| 21:40.46 | blast007 | uso: the auth compares the IP that requested the token to the IP that joined the server |
| 21:41.31 | uso | yes, but i don't get a token, probably the same problem as with the serverlist |
| 21:41.54 | uso | if it's at the same apache server |
| 21:43.17 | uso | i get redirected at mz.bzflag.bz to the wirtual host "localhost", there's running your rtfm server which hasn't a token for me ;) |
| 21:43.56 | Tupone | JeffM2501: ping |
| 21:47.32 | uso | blast007: yay, have you changed the mapping? |
| 21:47.43 | blast007 | hmm? |
| 21:48.03 | uso | i now at least get the serverlist |
| 21:48.13 | uso | or isn't it your server? |
| 21:48.31 | brlcad | uso: what "rtfm server" are you talking about? |
| 21:48.43 | brlcad | i don't recall any rtfmmage |
| 21:48.55 | uso | the one running at my.bzflag.org |
| 21:49.11 | brlcad | that's not very helpful |
| 21:49.46 | brlcad | i see no mention of the work rtfm anywhere |
| 21:49.52 | Tupone | brlcad: code is from jeff and the double glBegin is easy to spot :) |
| 21:49.55 | uso | seems to be the fallback for the virtual hosts, but i'm not familiar with that apache stuff |
| 21:50.00 | brlcad | Tupone: ahh |
| 21:50.16 | blast007 | uso: even when I access my.bzflag.org via the IP, I just the the bz.bzflag.bz page |
| 21:50.23 | blast007 | get the* |
| 21:50.27 | brlcad | uso: the only "fallback" is a simple bz.bzflag.bz logo on the main site |
| 21:50.42 | brlcad | there's nothing rtfm about that, though |
| 21:51.00 | uso | yes, that's what i get too if i access / |
| 21:51.01 | brlcad | it's just a simple server identification page |
| 21:51.35 | uso | but if i acces the url for the serverlist i got an error message from an RTFM server |
| 21:51.48 | brlcad | which url? |
| 21:51.50 | uso | until 5 mins ago or so |
| 21:52.09 | brlcad | yeah, I just changed the config so that port 81 no longer goes to the default |
| 21:52.10 | uso | /db/?action=LIST |
| 21:52.31 | blast007 | RTFM Server at 66.111.56.50 Port 80 |
| 21:52.39 | blast007 | it's a 404 error |
| 21:52.43 | brlcad | ahhhh |
| 21:52.45 | brlcad | the 404 page |
| 21:52.51 | blast007 | and mod_security just changed the signature |
| 21:52.56 | brlcad | jeesh |
| 21:52.57 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:53.16 | blast007 | uso: you can't access it via the IP, which is what is happening if you are using port forwarding |
| 21:53.41 | uso | that's what i wanted to say all the time :) |
| 21:53.44 | brlcad | what's the full url? |
| 21:53.53 | brlcad | that you are using |
| 21:54.09 | blast007 | he is using port forwarding to get around a proxy |
| 21:54.10 | brlcad | the config can be changed to work, but I don't want to go guessing |
| 21:54.23 | blast007 | so the port forwarding is resolving the IP, and using that |
| 21:54.30 | blast007 | so effectively: http://66.111.56.50/db/?action=LIST |
| 21:54.37 | uso | http://localhost:8100/db/?action=LIST |
| 21:54.50 | brlcad | blast007: thx |
| 21:55.00 | uso | but for port 81 it now works, so don't change anything :) |
| 21:55.02 | Tupone | well, the host name is important |
| 21:55.25 | Tupone | change in /etc/hosts to point that host to 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:56.15 | uso | yay, even global works now again |
| 21:56.23 | uso | brlcad: thanks :) |
| 21:57.51 | uso | Tupone: yes, but that would screw up access to the forum, as privoxy would be irritated by that |
| 21:58.03 | Tupone | well, ok :) |
| 21:58.26 | brlcad | it does? :) |
| 21:59.27 | brlcad | who am I to argue, though.. works for him :) |
| 21:59.33 | blast007 | lol |
| 22:00.15 | uso | brlcad: you need a port forwarding for this to work, something like ssh -L 8100:my.bzflag.org:81 targethost |
| 22:00.38 | brlcad | curl'ing the url directly should still work.. |
| 22:00.58 | uso | hmm, yes ... maybe :) |
| 22:01.11 | brlcad | does it still work for you? the m.b.o 81 isn't there |
| 22:01.40 | uso | at the moment, yes |
| 22:02.00 | blast007 | it works with port 81 |
| 22:02.07 | blast007 | points to my.bzflag.org properly |
| 22:02.09 | blast007 | just not with 80 |
| 22:02.44 | uso | i use 81 at the moment |
| 22:03.16 | uso | does not work with port 80 for me too |
| 22:03.58 | brlcad | i'm not changing port 80 |
| 22:04.19 | uso | yeah, np, i'm lucky with port 81 :) |
| 22:04.19 | brlcad | there are too many vhosts on 80, it needs to be the ident |
| 22:04.41 | uso | thanks a lot |
| 22:04.50 | brlcad | ooooh |
| 22:04.55 | brlcad | i know why it's not working here |
| 22:04.59 | brlcad | dang firewall |
| 22:05.03 | uso | lol |
| 22:05.12 | brlcad | yeah, there that worked |
| 22:05.13 | uso | but at least the firewall worked ;) |
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| 22:22.44 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, whats up? |
| 22:23.16 | Tupone | look at hudrenderre.cxx you have to glBegin |
| 22:23.22 | Tupone | s/to/two/ |
| 22:25.59 | JeffM2501 | in what branch? |
| 22:26.31 | CBG | ~ping |
| 22:26.32 | ibot | pong |
| 22:26.32 | Tupone | head |
| 22:26.37 | Tupone | main trunk |
| 22:26.42 | JeffM2501 | I changed head? |
| 22:26.45 | JeffM2501 | wow, ok |
| 22:26.47 | Tupone | 16 april |
| 22:26.47 | JeffM2501 | let me look |
| 22:26.56 | JeffM2501 | wonder what i added |
| 22:27.18 | JeffM2501 | let me get head and see what I did |
| 22:27.19 | Tupone | maybe you just reorganized |
| 22:27.31 | JeffM2501 | no, I don't recall reorging head |
| 22:27.35 | JeffM2501 | only playgroun |
| 22:27.43 | JeffM2501 | maybe I screwd up in a playground merge or something |
| 22:27.44 | Tupone | 16 april are weeks ago |
| 22:27.52 | JeffM2501 | I'm geting latest now |
| 22:28.39 | JeffM2501 | I just don't recall doing anyting in HUD till I started the round hud thing |
| 22:28.52 | Tupone | line 916-920 |
| 22:29.45 | bryjen | april 16 was when you "branched" playground over top of head ;) |
| 22:30.38 | JeffM2501 | so it was probably a screwup |
| 22:30.47 | JeffM2501 | you can revert over that if you want |
| 22:30.58 | JeffM2501 | have any other changes been made after that? |
| 22:31.42 | Tupone | I have not, but I wonder if that changes are from before . |
| 22:31.50 | JeffM2501 | I'll look |
| 22:31.54 | JeffM2501 | it's still geting |
| 22:36.26 | bryjen | what function is that in, Tupone ? |
| 22:37.05 | JeffM2501 | oh it's in my cracks stuff |
| 22:37.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah tha'ts a real bug :) |
| 22:37.56 | JeffM2501 | it's part of high res cracks |
| 22:37.59 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: don't do 2 begins |
| 22:41.39 | bryjen | on that subject, can the cracks be moved/resized to not go over the message box? would make it easier to admin while dead. |
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| 22:52.00 | JeffM2501 | the crack code scares me |
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| 22:52.19 | JeffM2501 | one of the next thing I'm doing in playground is playing with the hud some more, so I'll look |
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