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| 00:24.44 | CBG | in anoither funmatch... |
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| 00:53.05 | Nidhoggr | hrm. various warnings in bzflag compile on debian. nothing fatal yet. |
| 00:54.23 | JeffM2501 | I just did one from cvs head |
| 00:54.24 | JeffM2501 | worked fine |
| 00:54.49 | Nidhoggr | mine is from v2_0_6 |
| 00:55.05 | Nidhoggr | just warnings though. |
| 00:55.14 | Tupone | eg ? |
| 00:55.20 | Nidhoggr | they scrolled off. |
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| 00:57.18 | Nidhoggr | http://pastebin.com/688028 |
| 00:58.22 | Nidhoggr | also... http://pastebin.com/688029 |
| 01:00.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah I did get the shadow warnings in head too |
| 01:00.31 | JeffM2501 | how was the retreat nid? |
| 01:00.55 | Nidhoggr | it was very good. |
| 01:01.25 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 01:01.30 | JeffM2501 | systems runing ok now? |
| 01:01.54 | Tupone | what compiler gives those warning? gcc-4 ? |
| 01:02.11 | Nidhoggr | still have to install a replacement server. |
| 01:02.15 | Nidhoggr | let me check. |
| 01:02.35 | Nidhoggr | 3.3.5 |
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| 01:03.12 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, probalby the same debian distro I just did |
| 01:03.20 | Tupone | hmm, I don't have anymore, but I will try to get those, probably --disable-debug rause those |
| 01:03.26 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, if you need acces to one I can hook you up |
| 01:04.10 | Tupone | well, I have sarge too in some place, we cannot do anything about the shadow, as they are system includes, IIRC |
| 01:06.42 | JeffM2501 | well if you want an account, let me know |
| 01:07.08 | Nidhoggr | this is on old bzflag.secretplace.us |
| 01:07.14 | Nidhoggr | so you should still have account there. |
| 01:07.40 | Nidhoggr | I'm trying to get the machine ready to set up the server once again. |
| 01:09.01 | Nidhoggr | now I'm having problems with my desktop PC :( |
| 01:11.10 | JeffM2501 | install windows :) |
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| 01:11.43 | Gnurdux | windows schmindows |
| 01:11.55 | Nidhoggr | that's the problem |
| 01:11.56 | TD-Linux | how is that supposed to help anything? |
| 01:12.01 | Nidhoggr | I think it's my cdrom |
| 01:12.03 | Nidhoggr | drive |
| 01:12.08 | Nidhoggr | installing xp pro |
| 01:12.17 | Nidhoggr | and it dies intermittently on different files. |
| 01:12.24 | Nidhoggr | just changed cdroms |
| 01:12.35 | Nidhoggr | and trying to install again |
| 01:12.43 | Nidhoggr | so far it's doing much better. |
| 01:13.10 | m3y | ytf] |
| 01:13.11 | m3y | hgyug |
| 01:13.33 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah........ |
| 01:13.42 | Nidhoggr | lol |
| 01:13.46 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, unisstall windows |
| 01:13.49 | JeffM2501 | install OSX |
| 01:14.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah sounds like a drive thing |
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| 01:14.07 | JeffM2501 | is the disk scratched? |
| 01:14.11 | Nidhoggr | I need to find a better way to cool this old cow. |
| 01:14.17 | Nidhoggr | no... it's brand new |
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| 01:14.26 | Nidhoggr | just got the disk today. |
| 01:14.39 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 01:14.46 | Nidhoggr | the drive is old, though. |
| 01:14.50 | Nidhoggr | at least 2 years old. |
| 01:14.54 | m3y | morning all |
| 01:15.00 | Nidhoggr | hi m3y |
| 01:15.13 | m3y | hay |
| 01:15.22 | m3y | can u speak indonesia |
| 01:15.28 | Nidhoggr | no, sorry. |
| 01:15.29 | JeffM2501 | sadly not |
| 01:15.43 | Nidhoggr | if this works, I just gotta go out and get a new DVD writer. |
| 01:15.49 | m3y | ohhh |
| 01:15.51 | m3y | i c |
| 01:15.52 | JeffM2501 | those are cheap |
| 01:15.56 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:16.07 | JeffM2501 | I think my dual layer one was 40$ |
| 01:16.23 | Nidhoggr | wow, dual layer? |
| 01:16.28 | m3y | what cenel this?? |
| 01:16.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:16.32 | JeffM2501 | some cheap brand |
| 01:16.39 | JeffM2501 | m3y, this is the cannel for the game bzflag |
| 01:16.41 | Nidhoggr | this channel is #bzflag |
| 01:16.48 | JeffM2501 | see www.bzflag.org for info |
| 01:16.55 | m3y | i dont know |
| 01:17.09 | m3y | my god..help me |
| 01:17.12 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, btw also did you see my other forum post? the one about swdeath? |
| 01:17.25 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, I don't read every one of your posts, so I dono |
| 01:17.33 | JeffM2501 | m3y, this isn't a general chat channel |
| 01:17.41 | m3y | ok |
| 01:17.46 | m3y | bye alll |
| 01:17.54 | m3y | nice to meet u |
| 01:17.59 | Nidhoggr | take care |
| 01:18.18 | m3y | thanks |
| 01:18.19 | Gnurdux | ok, well you know how SWdeath can fire the shots "from" the victim? if these shots kill anyone, the clients segfault |
| 01:18.23 | m3y | luv u all |
| 01:18.30 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, umm ok |
| 01:18.34 | JeffM2501 | then don't do that |
| 01:18.45 | Gnurdux | its a serious bug\ |
| 01:18.53 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, not if it's in a plugin |
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| 01:18.58 | Gnurdux | well its in the API |
| 01:19.01 | JeffM2501 | and there is a work around |
| 01:19.16 | JeffM2501 | if the client crashes it's a bug in the client |
| 01:19.21 | Gnurdux | sort of |
| 01:19.26 | JeffM2501 | not sort of, IS |
| 01:19.27 | Nidhoggr | are the connection issues fixed in the v2_0_6 with curl? |
| 01:19.32 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, no |
| 01:19.40 | JeffM2501 | that's going to be 2.0.8 |
| 01:19.40 | Nidhoggr | any eta on a fix? |
| 01:19.43 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 01:19.44 | JeffM2501 | the fix is in cvs |
| 01:19.45 | Nidhoggr | ok |
| 01:19.45 | Gnurdux | well.. the feature of world-weapons fired from a user was implemented baaddly |
| 01:19.47 | JeffM2501 | as .7 |
| 01:19.55 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, umm ok |
| 01:19.56 | Nidhoggr | does head work with all clients? |
| 01:20.06 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, I'll pull the plugin |
| 01:20.12 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, oh god no |
| 01:20.15 | JeffM2501 | head is 2.1 |
| 01:20.16 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 01:20.17 | JeffM2501 | new proto |
| 01:20.17 | Nidhoggr | ok |
| 01:20.25 | Gnurdux | its not a bug in the plugin JeffM2501 dont pull it |
| 01:20.34 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, I can't fix old clients |
| 01:20.43 | JeffM2501 | so the only way to prevent the crash is to not have the plguin |
| 01:20.44 | Gnurdux | yes i know |
| 01:20.49 | Gnurdux | it should have required a protocol change |
| 01:20.56 | Gnurdux | just kill the usevictim option |
| 01:20.57 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, well that CAN NOT HAPPEN |
| 01:21.02 | Gnurdux | thats the only thing that causes crashes |
| 01:21.13 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, then the plugin can't be for 2.0 |
| 01:21.16 | JeffM2501 | and must be pulled |
| 01:21.29 | Gnurdux | no, only that feature |
| 01:21.31 | JeffM2501 | all 2.0.x versions must be compatable |
| 01:21.32 | Gnurdux | usevictim |
| 01:21.41 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, so just don't use that feature |
| 01:21.46 | Gnurdux | ya ok |
| 01:21.55 | JeffM2501 | it's had the problem since 2.0.4 |
| 01:21.59 | JeffM2501 | it's not a new critial bug |
| 01:22.06 | JeffM2501 | your the first to mention it in over a year |
| 01:22.08 | Gnurdux | the basic problem is that that feature makes the shots "from" the victim |
| 01:22.11 | JeffM2501 | it must not be a big problem |
| 01:22.18 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, Iknow, I wrote it |
| 01:22.32 | JeffM2501 | again you don't have to tell us things you know, or you have said before |
| 01:22.47 | JeffM2501 | the real question is why do the clients crash? |
| 01:22.52 | Gnurdux | but it uses shots owned by the server |
| 01:22.56 | JeffM2501 | what causes a user on the SW to crash the server |
| 01:22.59 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 01:23.03 | JeffM2501 | so it's an ID mismatch |
| 01:23.13 | Gnurdux | associated with server player, not the normal player |
| 01:23.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah it can't work |
| 01:23.27 | Gnurdux | the only solution would be to have the server eat one of the players shots |
| 01:23.29 | JeffM2501 | cus of the dumb way shots are handles |
| 01:23.37 | Gnurdux | but then it would get overwritten once a new shot was fired |
| 01:23.38 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, or have all shots share a common ID pool |
| 01:23.53 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, not if the shot list was dynamic and not a static vector |
| 01:23.58 | Gnurdux | i meant without a protocol break |
| 01:24.09 | JeffM2501 | there is no way to do it with out a proto change |
| 01:24.14 | JeffM2501 | the server can not eat a shot |
| 01:24.15 | Gnurdux | i see |
| 01:24.25 | JeffM2501 | or you'll have posibly 2 shots with the same id |
| 01:24.32 | Gnurdux | no |
| 01:24.37 | Gnurdux | that doesnt happen |
| 01:24.42 | JeffM2501 | the server dosn't know the cleint's shot statuses |
| 01:24.44 | Gnurdux | the old shot is overwritten, and vanishes |
| 01:24.52 | JeffM2501 | so then there would be a shot lost |
| 01:24.54 | JeffM2501 | that is bad |
| 01:24.56 | JeffM2501 | that is a confict |
| 01:24.58 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 01:25.01 | JeffM2501 | so it can't work |
| 01:25.08 | JeffM2501 | so I'll pull the plugin |
| 01:25.16 | JeffM2501 | untill it can be made right |
| 01:25.27 | JeffM2501 | plugins are not required features of the game |
| 01:25.30 | JeffM2501 | they are optional |
| 01:25.33 | Gnurdux | not the plugin, just remove usevictim |
| 01:25.43 | JeffM2501 | then the old configs don't work |
| 01:25.53 | Gnurdux | yes they do |
| 01:25.54 | JeffM2501 | easyer to pull the plugin |
| 01:25.57 | Gnurdux | it wont give errors |
| 01:26.05 | Gnurdux | if it just ignores the command line |
| 01:26.27 | JeffM2501 | if you are the only person to mention it in a year, I don't think many use it |
| 01:27.19 | JeffM2501 | so what is the point of having a plugin that noone uses? |
| 01:27.19 | Gnurdux | people use the plugin, just not usevictim |
| 01:27.20 | JeffM2501 | how many servers? |
| 01:28.40 | Gnurdux | dunno |
| 01:28.43 | Gnurdux | but its good to have' |
| 01:28.49 | Gnurdux | cant do any harm, |
| 01:29.55 | JeffM2501 | other then crash the server |
| 01:29.59 | JeffM2501 | right? |
| 01:30.12 | Gnurdux | it doesnt crash the server, just clients |
| 01:30.21 | JeffM2501 | even worse |
| 01:30.25 | Gnurdux | and its only usevictim that does that |
| 01:30.44 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.cpp: don't do the player crap anymore, it's all horibly wrong |
| 01:30.52 | Gnurdux | :) |
| 01:31.06 | JeffM2501 | but don't go around saying that it's a critical bug |
| 01:31.07 | Gnurdux | actually what would be better is to make fireWorldWep ignore the player argument |
| 01:31.08 | JeffM2501 | when it's not |
| 01:31.16 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, that needs an API change |
| 01:31.19 | JeffM2501 | and breaks old stuff |
| 01:31.24 | Gnurdux | no, ignore it |
| 01:31.26 | JeffM2501 | that I will not do for a bugfix |
| 01:31.30 | Gnurdux | but leave it in |
| 01:31.35 | JeffM2501 | then it's pointless |
| 01:31.40 | Gnurdux | nothing is broken that isnt already broken |
| 01:31.44 | JeffM2501 | it will be fixed proper in 2.2 |
| 01:31.48 | Gnurdux | of course |
| 01:32.13 | JeffM2501 | tere are many bugy or bad functions in the game |
| 01:32.19 | JeffM2501 | this isn't a release to fix them all |
| 01:32.32 | JeffM2501 | you don't understand that |
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| 01:32.46 | Nidhoggr | JeffM2501: any opinion on "LightScribe"? |
| 01:32.52 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, mehh |
| 01:33.03 | JeffM2501 | I prefer the printers that print right on em |
| 01:33.08 | JeffM2501 | all color and stuff |
| 01:33.17 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:33.18 | JeffM2501 | how much more does it add to the drive and the disks? |
| 01:33.26 | Nidhoggr | not sure. |
| 01:33.40 | JeffM2501 | pritners that do CDs are under 100 |
| 01:33.50 | Nidhoggr | interesting. |
| 01:33.52 | JeffM2501 | and the printable CDS are only a smidge more then regulars |
| 01:33.59 | JeffM2501 | and you don't have to buy labels |
| 01:34.02 | JeffM2501 | we use em here |
| 01:34.08 | JeffM2501 | they look great |
| 01:34.19 | JeffM2501 | lightscribe isn't color |
| 01:34.41 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 01:35.06 | JeffM2501 | do you label most of your CDs? |
| 01:35.09 | JeffM2501 | and how many do you burn? |
| 01:35.27 | JeffM2501 | cus a sharpie is a lot faster and cheaper then ether method :) |
| 01:35.32 | Nidhoggr | I don't label many. I do burn a fair amount. |
| 01:35.33 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:35.48 | JeffM2501 | IIRC lightscibe you have to take it out and flip the disk |
| 01:35.54 | JeffM2501 | for the printer you stick it in a printer |
| 01:36.02 | JeffM2501 | with the printer, you can burn and print at the same time |
| 01:36.11 | JeffM2501 | with lightscribe it takes up the burner just to label |
| 01:36.25 | Nidhoggr | I'm so far behind on technology... I didn't know there were double-layer burners. |
| 01:36.58 | A_Meteorite | I have an admission: I own a DVD-burner yet I've never bought DVD media or burned any DVDs. |
| 01:37.15 | Nidhoggr | here is a pioneer one for 79 bucks. |
| 01:37.17 | Nidhoggr | at best buy. |
| 01:37.23 | Nidhoggr | might get that. |
| 01:38.52 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, that seems high |
| 01:38.54 | JeffM2501 | check frys |
| 01:38.59 | JeffM2501 | if you have them around you |
| 01:39.14 | Nidhoggr | I usually avoid fry's. I shopped there today. |
| 01:39.23 | Nidhoggr | I need to go to fry's anyway. :/ |
| 01:39.27 | Nidhoggr | to get a power supply. |
| 01:40.25 | JeffM2501 | some are better then others |
| 01:40.29 | JeffM2501 | I love mine |
| 01:40.33 | JeffM2501 | tho it's the newest |
| 01:40.36 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): don't allow players to be atached to world shots, the shotID system dosn't allow for it. |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM2501 | mehh, probalby should pull the entire world weapon system in playground |
| 01:44.22 | CBG | ~seen TimRiker |
| 01:44.34 | ibot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #openezx, 6h 52m 28s ago, saying: 'ah'. |
| 01:45.31 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ah |
| 01:48.02 | JeffM2501 | ibot should send out mailing list updates when he says more then 1 word ;) |
| 01:49.30 | CBG | Hah! :) |
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| 01:50.10 | CBG | I don't suppose anyone else can send purl/ibot/jbot/apt/whatever... to my new channel? |
| 01:50.34 | wegstar | run your own bot ;) |
| 01:50.53 | CBG | Too much effort, not enough energy. |
| 01:51.09 | wegstar | ... |
| 01:51.16 | JeffM2501 | just mail him |
| 01:51.26 | JeffM2501 | and on that note |
| 01:51.29 | CBG | JeffM2501: ok, will do. |
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| 03:43.53 | JeffM2501 | anyone know of XOOPS? |
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| 05:04.18 | JeffM2501 | blast007, you around? |
| 05:05.34 | L4m3r | I think he's having fun with his new PS2 net adapter. |
| 05:06.11 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 05:06.30 | L4m3r | (21:00:06) ***blast007 can run traceroutes from his PS2 >:D |
| 05:12.25 | Aribeth | CMS? |
| 05:13.34 | JeffM2501 | content management system |
| 05:13.41 | Aribeth | ahhh |
| 05:13.56 | Aribeth | btw...i read your mail in eq2 |
| 05:14.07 | Aribeth | thanks :) |
| 05:14.07 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 05:14.08 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 05:14.16 | JeffM2501 | better you use it then it just sit in the bank |
| 05:14.37 | Aribeth | i created more charaters lol |
| 05:14.49 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 05:15.11 | Aribeth | got a lvl 10 congerer |
| 05:16.10 | Aribeth | er conjuror |
| 05:16.17 | JeffM2501 | ahh, panzy caster |
| 05:16.25 | Aribeth | ohh? |
| 05:16.35 | JeffM2501 | they just can't take a hit ;) |
| 05:16.46 | JeffM2501 | and maybe monk |
| 05:16.51 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:17.00 | Aribeth | aribeth is a guardian |
| 05:17.11 | JeffM2501 | I used to hear a lot of "oh no.. I got hit" |
| 05:17.19 | JeffM2501 | and i'm like "it's one hit ya baby" |
| 05:17.20 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:18.35 | Aribeth | my conjuror has done good so far |
| 05:18.58 | Aribeth | but ya, they cant take large hits well |
| 05:19.06 | JeffM2501 | but you have fluffy |
| 05:19.10 | JeffM2501 | he takes hits for you |
| 05:19.13 | JeffM2501 | fluffy rocks |
| 05:19.26 | Aribeth | the bug? |
| 05:19.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:19.35 | JeffM2501 | the bug gets better |
| 05:19.37 | JeffM2501 | a LOT better |
| 05:19.40 | Aribeth | ya...it does rock |
| 05:19.44 | JeffM2501 | keep your summon up as high as posible |
| 05:19.45 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:19.59 | JeffM2501 | soon you learn the concept of "fluffy's gonna take one for the team... run" |
| 05:20.10 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:20.23 | Aribeth | yes much to learn |
| 05:20.27 | JeffM2501 | but fluffy is a cheap date |
| 05:20.30 | JeffM2501 | so it's no worry |
| 05:20.50 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 05:21.15 | JeffM2501 | in WoW hunters get pets like a fluffy |
| 05:21.18 | Aribeth | i have a good paladin too |
| 05:21.24 | JeffM2501 | but when they die and come back, they get pissed |
| 05:21.25 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:21.27 | JeffM2501 | and you have to feed them |
| 05:21.30 | JeffM2501 | or the atack you |
| 05:21.35 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 05:21.56 | JeffM2501 | palys are fun |
| 05:22.01 | JeffM2501 | bit of everything |
| 05:22.11 | JeffM2501 | you should try a monk if you like fighting |
| 05:22.26 | Aribeth | i have thought on it |
| 05:22.28 | JeffM2501 | monks are ALL about the DPS |
| 05:22.47 | Aribeth | DPS? |
| 05:23.06 | JeffM2501 | Damage Per Second |
| 05:23.06 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:23.18 | JeffM2501 | to be able to compare the classes they average offensice damage per second |
| 05:23.26 | Aribeth | i have seen some monks run like heck from a fight |
| 05:23.27 | JeffM2501 | cus difrent things take longer or shorter |
| 05:24.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:24.16 | JeffM2501 | feign death is there friend |
| 05:24.16 | Aribeth | yep |
| 05:24.16 | JeffM2501 | they run a bit, when they know it's gonna go bad |
| 05:24.16 | JeffM2501 | at least they have an option |
| 05:24.16 | Aribeth | i do too |
| 05:24.16 | JeffM2501 | with others it's just "well gonna die" |
| 05:24.17 | JeffM2501 | fluffy is a good option |
| 05:24.22 | Aribeth | yes |
| 05:24.30 | JeffM2501 | that's "takin one for the team" |
| 05:24.40 | Aribeth | yep |
| 05:25.25 | Aribeth | right now im trying to figure out how to start the tradeskill stuff |
| 05:25.39 | JeffM2501 | there are some good quests that run you thru it |
| 05:25.45 | JeffM2501 | did you leave the island? |
| 05:25.51 | Aribeth | i have seen some with artizan skills on the isle of refuge |
| 05:26.08 | Aribeth | aribeth has, not the others |
| 05:26.21 | JeffM2501 | on the mainland you'll join a tradeskill house, they will give you linked quests |
| 05:26.32 | JeffM2501 | that just keep leveling you up and teaching you how to do stuff |
| 05:26.59 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:27.13 | JeffM2501 | and you can try each sub profesion if you want |
| 05:27.17 | JeffM2501 | on difrent characters |
| 05:27.20 | Aribeth | i have seen some beginners with tradeskills |
| 05:27.32 | JeffM2501 | cus you have those shared bank slots, you can pass items between characters |
| 05:27.45 | Aribeth | yep |
| 05:31.04 | Aribeth | i also got introduced to mentoring today |
| 05:31.28 | JeffM2501 | 5% bounus is nice |
| 05:31.43 | Aribeth | i dont know how it works yet |
| 05:31.58 | JeffM2501 | higher level person mentors down to lower |
| 05:32.16 | JeffM2501 | it makes them efecticvly the same level as the person the mentor down to |
| 05:32.24 | JeffM2501 | that way they can all to the same quests and stuff |
| 05:32.36 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:32.45 | JeffM2501 | and as a bouns for the person being mentored, they get a 5% exp bonus |
| 05:32.55 | Aribeth | so it helps them lvl faster? |
| 05:33.09 | JeffM2501 | if the high level didn't mentor down, the low level kills would be considered "trivial" and noone would get exp |
| 05:33.16 | JeffM2501 | yes it helps the lowbies level faster |
| 05:33.22 | JeffM2501 | and still play with there high level friends |
| 05:33.36 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:33.55 | Aribeth | i mentored a couple group members today |
| 05:34.04 | JeffM2501 | in systems that don't have mentoring, if you start with a group of friends, but then stop playing for a while, your buds will go up faster then you |
| 05:34.10 | JeffM2501 | and be "too high" to do anything with you |
| 05:34.15 | JeffM2501 | mentoring lets people hang together |
| 05:34.24 | JeffM2501 | just know that when YOU mentor, you get less experience |
| 05:34.38 | JeffM2501 | and stuff is harder, because it efectivly lowers your level down to them |
| 05:34.41 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:34.54 | JeffM2501 | like I'm a 35 guardian |
| 05:35.01 | JeffM2501 | my friends are all 45-50 + |
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| 05:35.08 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:35.12 | JeffM2501 | if they help me do my quests, all the mobs are "gray" to them |
| 05:35.20 | JeffM2501 | and noone gets exp ( cus they are grouped with me ) |
| 05:35.25 | Aribeth | yep |
| 05:35.41 | JeffM2501 | if I do there quests everything is BFP to me and I just get killed |
| 05:35.52 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:36.04 | JeffM2501 | this way, they mentor down to me, we all do the quests ( they get a bit of EXP ), I get a LOT of exp, and we get closer |
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| 05:36.11 | JeffM2501 | and can still all play togehter |
| 05:36.21 | Aribeth | cool |
| 05:36.40 | Aribeth | its so much different tnan runescape |
| 05:36.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:36.55 | JeffM2501 | you see why I call runescape a "toy" game ;) |
| 05:37.04 | Aribeth | yes |
| 05:37.19 | Aribeth | and a kiddie game too |
| 05:37.34 | Aribeth | i get tired of hearing plz plz |
| 05:37.46 | JeffM2501 | the big pay games just have so much more shine and pollish |
| 05:37.49 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 05:38.00 | JeffM2501 | do you run with the regular models or the SOGA models? |
| 05:38.13 | Aribeth | regular |
| 05:38.19 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 05:38.24 | JeffM2501 | have you tried the SOGA ones? |
| 05:38.30 | Aribeth | not yet |
| 05:38.30 | JeffM2501 | I personaly like them much better |
| 05:38.36 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:38.59 | Aribeth | i have a warlock char i can try it on |
| 05:39.12 | JeffM2501 | it's not per character |
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| 05:39.14 | JeffM2501 | just turn it on |
| 05:39.18 | JeffM2501 | you can turn it off at any time |
| 05:39.25 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 05:39.27 | JeffM2501 | it changes all the models you see |
| 05:39.31 | JeffM2501 | to the new modes |
| 05:39.50 | JeffM2501 | you can even pick what one is used on a per race basis |
| 05:40.03 | JeffM2501 | when you set your SOGA apearance you set how YOU look to people with SOGA on |
| 05:40.33 | Aribeth | i did see something on the create char screen that said something about that i think |
| 05:40.45 | Aribeth | that it was a one time thing |
| 05:40.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:40.49 | JeffM2501 | that is |
| 05:40.57 | JeffM2501 | but you can turn on soga models to see everyone else |
| 05:41.02 | JeffM2501 | before you do youself |
| 05:41.12 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:41.14 | JeffM2501 | you'll just use a generic seting foryoursef |
| 05:41.20 | JeffM2501 | it's a good way to see what they look like |
| 05:41.38 | Aribeth | i'll give it a try |
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| 05:46.24 | L4m3r | mwahahaha.... |
| 05:46.36 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, 119 for the 3000+ 64 and mobo |
| 05:46.37 | Aribeth | that sounds evil |
| 05:46.48 | L4m3r | I've made a plug-in that makes you hold a bad flag longer if you've been shopping a lot |
| 05:47.05 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 05:47.21 | L4m3r | each flag you grab and drop doubles the time when you get a bad flag >:D |
| 05:47.30 | Aribeth | eek |
| 05:47.35 | JeffM2501 | how does it change the bad flag time? |
| 05:47.40 | JeffM2501 | with the bzdb var? |
| 05:47.46 | Aribeth | what if you shop 50 flags |
| 05:48.03 | L4m3r | no, it does it by itself |
| 05:48.13 | JeffM2501 | how? |
| 05:48.31 | L4m3r | zaps the flag when the time comes... tells the player how long they have to wait |
| 05:48.46 | L4m3r | not exactly clean but I don't think using a bzdb var would work too well |
| 05:48.59 | JeffM2501 | no it would set the bad time for all players |
| 05:49.07 | L4m3r | exactly. |
| 05:49.11 | JeffM2501 | so you give them the bad flag again if it has to be longer? |
| 05:49.19 | L4m3r | no, I just turned it off |
| 05:49.30 | JeffM2501 | turn what off? |
| 05:49.36 | L4m3r | shake time |
| 05:49.47 | L4m3r | the server zaps the flag when it sees fit |
| 05:49.52 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 05:49.59 | JeffM2501 | so you manaualy do your own "shake" |
| 05:50.03 | JeffM2501 | that's not too bad |
| 05:50.03 | L4m3r | basically. |
| 05:50.14 | L4m3r | just use a queue with a little struct |
| 05:50.18 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 05:50.27 | JeffM2501 | there are worse ways to do it |
| 05:50.33 | JeffM2501 | your way will be consistent |
| 05:50.47 | L4m3r | if it catches on, it can always be added to the game... |
| 05:51.02 | L4m3r | say, move the time to be doled out by the server, dynamically |
| 05:51.16 | JeffM2501 | if we add it to the game, we just make all bad flag drops be done by the server |
| 05:51.25 | L4m3r | true. |
| 05:51.32 | JeffM2501 | and give a per player server side shake time that the plugin can set |
| 05:51.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:51.43 | JeffM2501 | basicly just tell them "you are done" |
| 05:51.52 | JeffM2501 | the client dosn't need to know shake time |
| 05:52.01 | L4m3r | send them a time so it can still count down, though, that is a nice thing to have |
| 05:52.08 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 05:52.12 | JeffM2501 | but that is just graphical |
| 05:52.29 | JeffM2501 | turn that into a generic message/countdown |
| 05:52.32 | L4m3r | hm... long bad flag penalty for TKing, hehe |
| 05:52.36 | JeffM2501 | then you can make them countdown anything :) |
| 05:52.41 | L4m3r | nice. |
| 05:52.44 | JeffM2501 | make it a spawn countdown |
| 05:52.51 | JeffM2501 | or whatever |
| 05:53.08 | JeffM2501 | for that kinda stuff the client should be a dumb client |
| 05:53.17 | L4m3r | fine by me. |
| 05:53.30 | L4m3r | "kiss your ass goodbye in 3...2...1..." |
| 05:54.53 | L4m3r | I feel out of place... the mofos are always finding new ways to make the game whorish, while I'm always finding ways to keep whorish players at bay :) |
| 05:55.16 | L4m3r | lol they're going to hate this... |
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| 07:43.34 | L4m3r | hm... think I found a bug |
| 07:43.51 | L4m3r | win32 client, used an API function to kill someone if they pause |
| 07:44.04 | L4m3r | when it did, sound stopped until I died again |
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| 10:22.37 | Usiu | Hi |
| 10:22.53 | Usiu | Where I can download the map from bzflag0.gamesunite.de ? |
| 10:23.07 | Usiu | I mean the map used on this server |
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| 16:36.34 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I've probably used XOOPS in the past, but I can't recall if I liked it |
| 16:38.36 | JeffM2501 | it's like nuke |
| 16:38.43 | JeffM2501 | it seems |
| 16:38.49 | JeffM2501 | tho I was unable to make it do what I wanted |
| 16:38.54 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
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| 16:40.36 | blast007 | that's my usual issue with CMS systems |
| 16:40.48 | blast007 | they do a whole ton, but just not what I want |
| 16:40.53 | blast007 | so I end up writing my own code |
| 16:41.01 | JeffM2501 | well they do it on their main page |
| 16:41.04 | JeffM2501 | so there must be a way |
| 16:41.23 | JeffM2501 | and writing code isnt' bad, at least with a CMS your not writing it ALL |
| 16:41.25 | JeffM2501 | jeffm.bakadigital.com was my test |
| 16:42.10 | blast007 | so what did you want it to do? |
| 16:42.25 | JeffM2501 | put the text for the last couple news articles on the main page |
| 16:42.28 | JeffM2501 | not just links to them |
| 16:47.07 | blast007 | ah |
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| 16:50.35 | Mr_Molez | ~bzflist |
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| 17:46.04 | CBG | ~blast007++ |
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| 17:59.51 | supertanker | Well I managed to get the stats server working on my machine |
| 18:02.54 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, just FYI, I'm cleaning up domains on baka, if I get any of yours or BZ ones, sorry bout that, and remake them :) |
| 18:03.16 | blast007 | supertanker: I saw you were having issues with the update script |
| 18:03.33 | blast007 | did you go and use the BZFlag/Info.pm file from the CVS checkout then? |
| 18:03.59 | blast007 | (the one on CPAN is outdated) |
| 18:05.01 | supertanker | yes, it works now, It just timed out the first time |
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| 19:30.08 | ToughShooter | Hrm, anon CVS at SF still not in sync :( |
| 19:31.55 | blast007 | it won't be until the new CVS infrastructure is in place |
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| 19:49.30 | JeffM2501 | I say it'll be a couple months |
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| 19:54.02 | JeffM2501 | blast007, do you know the .bz mail problem got fixed? |
| 19:54.52 | blast007 | I'm not sure, no |
| 19:55.17 | JeffM2501 | cus I didn't think it did |
| 19:55.28 | JeffM2501 | and I'm wondering how spam accounts are geting activated |
| 19:55.41 | JeffM2501 | I've manualy activated a couple people who mail me |
| 19:56.05 | JeffM2501 | but it hasn't been them |
| 19:56.43 | blast007 | hrm |
| 19:56.57 | JeffM2501 | wow there are a LOT of guest connections to the boards |
| 19:57.04 | JeffM2501 | like right now |
| 19:57.08 | JeffM2501 | wonder if the scan is back |
| 19:58.14 | lan56 | JeffM2501, as for the guest connections, one thing I noticed is that it doesnt autolog me in, tho I have cookies enabled. each time I have to relogin, check the autologin box (which does nothing next time), and then it says that the last time I was there was that very minute, tho before I logged in it said I wasnt logged in |
| 19:58.35 | JeffM2501 | lan56, you probalby have to blow out your old cokie |
| 19:58.40 | JeffM2501 | since the cookie changed |
| 19:58.48 | lan56 | ahh ok let me try it |
| 19:59.07 | JeffM2501 | no these are real connetons |
| 19:59.09 | JeffM2501 | there are a lot of them |
| 19:59.18 | JeffM2501 | netstat is taking a long time on the machine |
| 19:59.32 | JeffM2501 | somone is scaning again it seems |
| 20:00.10 | JeffM2501 | lot of mengroth.pimpi..... connects |
| 20:00.22 | lan56 | huh it says could not connect to database, I'll try back later then |
| 20:00.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:00.29 | lan56 | thx for the tip JeffM2501 |
| 20:00.31 | JeffM2501 | it's geting jacked |
| 20:00.34 | ToughShooter | ~dns viper.pimpi.org |
| 20:00.58 | lan56 | ahh |
| 20:01.12 | JeffM2501 | blast007, can you take a look at the netstat and see if I'm not going insane? |
| 20:01.14 | ToughShooter | ~nslookup 217.20.127.212 |
| 20:01.49 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 20:01.58 | JeffM2501 | why would it have like 20-30 conections open? |
| 20:02.11 | ToughShooter | I have no idea :/ |
| 20:03.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.23 | JeffM2501 | that's what it looked like |
| 20:03.31 | JeffM2501 | showed up a bunch in the netstat on .bz |
| 20:04.37 | Pimpinella | hmm, not here, at least not anymore |
| 20:05.10 | JeffM2501 | it probably restarted |
| 20:05.17 | JeffM2501 | does that a couple times an hour :) |
| 20:05.56 | Pimpinella | restarted what? |
| 20:06.08 | JeffM2501 | apache restarts a couple times an hour automagicly |
| 20:06.13 | JeffM2501 | to flush out conections and stuff |
| 20:06.18 | Pimpinella | ah, yes |
| 20:09.42 | _Manu_ | hallo Pimpinella |
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| 21:00.24 | JeffM2501 | yay down to 61 errors :) |
| 21:01.33 | CBG | down from? :) |
| 21:01.40 | JeffM2501 | about 1000 |
| 21:02.45 | CBG | eesh... |
| 21:03.29 | JeffM2501 | now I hope that if DTRemenak wants to keep the modified reload hud item I did in the mainline, he pull the code out now |
| 21:03.47 | JeffM2501 | cus the concept of "reload" on a per shot basis is going away |
| 21:03.55 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: tag it. I can get it later. |
| 21:04.05 | DTRemenak | tags are nice |
| 21:04.09 | JeffM2501 | I've allready ripped mine |
| 21:04.36 | DTRemenak | tag tags what's in cvs, not what's on your box |
| 21:04.39 | JeffM2501 | guess I can get it in a temp dir |
| 21:04.55 | JeffM2501 | I only know how to tag using tort :) |
| 21:05.16 | DTRemenak | tort should do it right, no? |
| 21:05.24 | JeffM2501 | it didn't do the branch right |
| 21:05.28 | DTRemenak | or does it require you to checkin before you tag? |
| 21:05.40 | JeffM2501 | I think you have to checkin on tag |
| 21:05.44 | DTRemenak | that's stupid |
| 21:05.48 | JeffM2501 | it may be an option |
| 21:05.54 | JeffM2501 | I'm geting a clean dir and I'll tag that |
| 21:05.57 | DTRemenak | I don't have it checked out, or I'd do it |
| 21:05.59 | JeffM2501 | space is cheap |
| 21:06.33 | JeffM2501 | the code for the tag won't build and run but the shot and hud markers are fine |
| 21:06.45 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:06.47 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 21:06.51 | JeffM2501 | it's the rest of the shot handling code that's all changed |
| 21:07.09 | JeffM2501 | no more max shots |
| 21:07.18 | JeffM2501 | and reload calcs are now easy |
| 21:07.25 | JeffM2501 | "how long has it been since you last shot?" |
| 21:07.36 | DTRemenak | those would be good changes for head also, actually |
| 21:07.48 | DTRemenak | the reload timing stuff always gives people headaches |
| 21:07.51 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:07.58 | DTRemenak | being dependent on shot length and speed and all |
| 21:08.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:08.08 | JeffM2501 | now the shot list is just a map |
| 21:08.16 | JeffM2501 | and the IDs keep going up and up |
| 21:08.28 | JeffM2501 | when a shot expires, it's deleted from the map |
| 21:08.37 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 21:08.43 | DTRemenak | this is done server-side? |
| 21:09.04 | JeffM2501 | and client side |
| 21:09.10 | DTRemenak | k |
| 21:09.15 | JeffM2501 | the server has a clean list of all active shots now tho |
| 21:09.21 | DTRemenak | might have to look at it :) |
| 21:09.22 | JeffM2501 | so geting it ready |
| 21:10.37 | JeffM2501 | when I'm done every shot will have a player independent struct on it too |
| 21:10.45 | JeffM2501 | saying what it is, and where it came from, etc.. |
| 21:10.56 | JeffM2501 | so it's no longer dependent on the players curent flag or state |
| 21:12.07 | JeffM2501 | ok it's taged as playground_good_reload |
| 21:13.42 | JeffM2501 | the next fun thing is to get rid of all calls to shot->getFlag() |
| 21:14.42 | JeffM2501 | or shoot somone with a nerf gun |
| 21:14.45 | JeffM2501 | whatever comes first |
| 21:16.09 | bryjen | ~nerf JeffM2501 |
| 21:16.39 | JeffM2501 | hah.. I am INVINCIBLE!!! |
| 21:16.46 | Tupone | handleFlagCaputre ? what does that mean ? |
| 21:17.04 | JeffM2501 | it handles the flag capture message ( if you are talking about 2.1 |
| 21:17.05 | Tupone | and that compiles |
| 21:17.51 | Tupone | :) I hope we will use aspell automatically before commit |
| 21:18.07 | JeffM2501 | it's how I make sure you see the code ;) |
| 21:20.53 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, know much about bot logic? |
| 21:21.10 | Tupone | I fixed those, if you mean bzflag bots |
| 21:21.15 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:21.26 | JeffM2501 | trying to figure out what some of the code is doing |
| 21:21.27 | Tupone | and Chestal did something on that |
| 21:21.31 | JeffM2501 | TimeKeeper now = TimeKeeper::getTick(); |
| 21:21.32 | JeffM2501 | if( now - lastShot >= ( 1.0f / World::getWorld()->getMaxShots())) |
| 21:21.43 | JeffM2501 | is that trying to see if it's a good time to fire? |
| 21:21.48 | JeffM2501 | it's in plan::execute |
| 21:21.59 | Tupone | I guess is Chestal code |
| 21:22.03 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 21:22.27 | Tupone | the problem with the code like it was, was that all the shots started mainly together |
| 21:22.28 | JeffM2501 | it's a roger thing I think |
| 21:22.38 | JeffM2501 | well I don't have a "max shots" anymore |
| 21:22.52 | JeffM2501 | hmmm I'll just get it from the weapon |
| 21:23.07 | Tupone | that seems to spread shot continuosly |
| 21:23.44 | Tupone | mainly all the shot in 1 second |
| 21:23.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's only for shockwave tho |
| 21:24.04 | JeffM2501 | ahh I see |
| 21:24.09 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't blow them all in one shot |
| 21:24.15 | Tupone | yep |
| 21:24.18 | JeffM2501 | spread them out over a time |
| 21:24.18 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:24.26 | JeffM2501 | well that's not a problem for me |
| 21:24.48 | Tupone | maybe then is the code from "the big fat guy" (?) |
| 21:24.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah I think it is |
| 21:26.24 | JeffM2501 | tho I'll probably pull roger anyway |
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| 21:39.49 | CBG | Just curious, what does "-set _endShotDetection 2" do exactly? |
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| 21:41.52 | Tupone | CBG, is function is of no use in 2.1 |
| 21:42.34 | CBG | I came across it in a saved map file from 2.0.x |
| 21:43.02 | Tupone | is for the end-of-shot cheat |
| 21:43.31 | CBG | It prevents such a cheat? |
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| 21:44.12 | Tupone | a part of the protocol is to send an end-of-shot when hit |
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| 21:44.43 | Tupone | it was used to stop other shot without being hit. That is the number of the max you can send |
| 21:44.53 | Tupone | before dieing |
| 21:44.57 | Tupone | IIRC |
| 21:48.50 | uso | my bzfquery.pl is dieing half of the time with getting the wrong code back from the server |
| 21:49.22 | SportChick | is there any chance that only usergroups would be effected? |
| 21:49.28 | CBG | Tupone: thanks :) |
| 21:49.31 | uso | it sends 0x7167 for game request(?) and gets back 0x6774 |
| 21:49.32 | Tupone | yw |
| 21:49.36 | uso | any hints? |
| 21:49.51 | uso | what does 0x6774 mean? |
| 21:49.53 | Tupone | uso, can you translate in ascii? |
| 21:50.22 | Tupone | 0x67 and 0x74 |
| 21:50.37 | uso | CJ\ |
| 21:51.14 | uso | oops, no, wrong colum, it' gt |
| 21:51.21 | Tupone | game time |
| 21:51.36 | Tupone | IIRC |
| 21:52.10 | Tupone | game time is exchanged any 0.5 sec IIRC |
| 21:53.12 | uso | hmm, not sure what you mean |
| 21:53.33 | Tupone | gt is a periodic message, not a response to anything |
| 21:53.44 | Tupone | sent any 0.5 sec IIRC |
| 21:54.21 | uso | it sends qg (means query game?) every time, half of the time the server answers with qg also, but half of the time it answers with gt and the query script dies |
| 21:54.38 | Tupone | gt hsould be discarded |
| 21:55.01 | Tupone | is not an answer |
| 21:55.17 | uso | so there should be loop in the query script requesting until the server answers with the right code? |
| 21:55.31 | uso | *a loop |
| 21:55.44 | Tupone | not requesting, just discarding unuseful packet |
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| 21:56.54 | Tupone | so 1) do a qg, 2) wait for next message, 3) is gt? discard and go to 2 , :) |
| 21:57.57 | uso | the script seems to do that, but it checks for the lenght |
| 21:58.13 | uso | has the length of the time message changed? |
| 21:58.29 | uso | it checks for lenght 12 |
| 21:58.30 | Tupone | dunno |
| 21:58.52 | uso | it's the bzfquery script from the misc directory |
| 21:59.05 | uso | bzfquery.pl |
| 21:59.25 | Tupone | I understand ... no time to check it now |
| 21:59.41 | Tupone | you should ask me-not-u-me |
| 22:00.02 | uso | ok, thanks anyway :) |
| 22:00.13 | Tupone | is not here :/ |
| 22:00.27 | uso | try to work it out with my small perl knowledge .. |
| 22:00.38 | Tupone | menotume: ping |
| 22:06.47 | supertanker | Since the list server is GPL, I can just put at the copyright: "Based on BZFlag stats server by (I forgot his name just now), right? |
| 22:07.09 | JeffM2501 | you have to follow the license |
| 22:07.10 | JeffM2501 | but yes |
| 22:07.42 | supertanker | so in other words, give credit when credit is due, and make clear that this is not hte origonal, and this software is not provided with a warrantie |
| 22:08.02 | JeffM2501 | and provide the sources |
| 22:08.07 | JeffM2501 | read the license |
| 22:08.15 | supertanker | Okay, good |
| 22:08.24 | supertanker | I DID read it, I was just making sure I didn't miss out on anyhting |
| 22:08.30 | supertanker | anything |
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| 22:38.21 | uso | grrr, python syntax is ugly, but at least the python bzfquery script works :) |
| 22:43.40 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (16 files): convert client over to using new shot map instead of old fixed shot list. Remove old "reload" concept, and replace it with reload times from the weapon. |
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| 22:56.32 | pyr0[X] | ohhh, firefox just died |
| 23:01.15 | Mahdi | what do you mean pyr0? |
| 23:01.48 | pyr0[X] | just died... it didnt like the new window i opened :) dont know why, it was just horde so i could check my email really quick |
| 23:01.49 | pyr0[X] | oh well |
| 23:02.01 | pyr0[X] | its ok, no real loss |
| 23:02.05 | Mahdi | hehe |
| 23:03.53 | pyr0[X] | meh, off i go... must find something to do :) |
| 23:03.55 | pyr0[X] | adios |
| 23:20.50 | TD-Linux | illegal poaching, it must have been |
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| 23:43.17 | zee768 | hello? |
| 23:44.06 | zee768 | is anyone here |
| 23:44.07 | zee768 | ? |
| 23:44.20 | Tupone | nope :( |
| 23:44.42 | zee768 | Damn. im having a problem with BZ and was told to come here |
| 23:45.05 | Tupone | what kind of problem? |
| 23:45.13 | zee768 | Registering |
| 23:45.23 | brlcad | what's the problem? |
| 23:45.35 | Tupone | hi brlcad :) |
| 23:45.41 | brlcad | howdy Tupone |
| 23:45.52 | zee768 | I keep trying to register at the forums, i give my e-mail adress, but it never sends me the activation code |
| 23:46.03 | brlcad | zee768: pm me your e-mail? |
| 23:46.27 | brlcad | and the name you're attempting to register? |
| 23:46.29 | zee768 | Um im not registered here, so i cant do that, but ill tell you out in the open |
| 23:47.16 | zee768 | But ive tried registering with this email, and it wont let me try again, it says its already in use, but i never got an activation e-mail |
| 23:47.36 | brlcad | what username? |
| 23:48.38 | zee768 | My first try was... Todesengle. But, that didtn work, so i wanna try Tango-Six-Six-One |
| 23:48.52 | zee768 | My email is: Echo5dash7@hotmail.com |
| 23:49.39 | zee768 | Scratch that, Echo-Six-Six-One |
| 23:50.18 | zee768 | is there anything you can do to help? |
| 23:50.26 | brlcad | which do you want? |
| 23:51.06 | zee768 | ...hmm...Todesengle |
| 23:51.15 | brlcad | activated |
| 23:51.30 | zee768 | Huh? its already been activated? |
| 23:51.37 | brlcad | no, i just activated it |
| 23:51.50 | zee768 | Oh, thank you so very much! |
| 23:52.22 | brlcad | no problem |
| 23:52.22 | zee768 | Is it the same password i registered it with? |
| 23:52.26 | brlcad | should be |
| 23:52.53 | zee768 | okay, lets see if I can remember it, its been several days, lol |
| 23:52.57 | brlcad | for what it's worth, I see no record of Echo-Six-Six-One |
| 23:53.14 | zee768 | Yay, thank you. |
| 23:53.32 | zee768 | I havnt tried echo yet, i was saving it until i knew it would work |
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| 23:53.54 | brlcad | it would have likely worked aside from the e-mail reuse |
| 23:53.55 | zee768 | But since i can use todesengle, im not gonna try echo |
| 23:54.12 | brlcad | there was a problem sending out e-mails until early last week |
| 23:54.17 | zee768 | Okay, well thank you very much for your help |
| 23:54.17 | brlcad | for a few days |
| 23:54.25 | brlcad | have you logged in? |
| 23:55.00 | zee768 | es |
| 23:55.02 | zee768 | *yes |
| 23:55.32 | zee768 | It works just fine. |
| 23:56.23 | zee768 | well, thank you, i shall go back to the game now. I really appreciate this! :) |
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