| 00:00.17 | Gnurdux | also how did you get the @brad.bz? |
| 00:00.22 | brad | someone else owned it, I asked for it to be dropped |
| 00:00.44 | brad | it's irssi on my server |
| 00:00.54 | Gnurdux | ahh |
| 00:01.15 | Gnurdux | well one thing you could do so that you could use a real client: |
| 00:01.26 | brad | irssi is a real client :) |
| 00:01.27 | Gnurdux | forward port 6667 on your server to irc.freenode.net |
| 00:01.33 | Gnurdux | a GUI client |
| 00:02.13 | brad | ah |
| 00:02.41 | Gnurdux | write a proggy that listens on port 6667 and only accepts connections from your IP |
| 00:03.21 | Gnurdux | and make it so that when someone connects it opens a connections to irc.freenode.net and forwards all traffic back and forth |
| 00:03.47 | brad | you can just do something like ssh -L 6667:irc.freenode.net:6667 brad@brad.bz |
| 00:03.57 | brad | it works in the same way |
| 00:04.16 | brad | just connect to localhost 6667 |
| 00:04.19 | Gnurdux | what does that do? |
| 00:04.20 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 00:26.34 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, do you like recordmatch |
| 00:26.41 | Mr_Molez | not really |
| 00:26.45 | Gnurdux | and brad did you ask the owner of the nick or lilo |
| 00:26.47 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, why not? |
| 00:27.18 | Mr_Molez | cuz it dont save in a useful name yet ;) |
| 00:27.26 | Gnurdux | what do you eman? |
| 00:27.44 | Mr_Molez | recorded files are saved as a date/time instead of the people who played |
| 00:27.50 | Gnurdux | so? |
| 00:27.51 | Gnurdux | mod it |
| 00:27.54 | Mr_Molez | which is not bad , but i prefer name s:P |
| 00:28.00 | Mr_Molez | i already have a mod for it |
| 00:28.04 | Mr_Molez | but i cant get it working :P |
| 00:33.24 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: why do you ask ? |
| 00:33.34 | Gnurdux | dunno just curious |
| 00:36.58 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 00:41.10 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: thehehehehheehhehe |
| 00:44.28 | Gnurdux | i just checked out what theme97 pointed out about usevictim for swdeath, and world weapons fired by users in general |
| 00:44.40 | Gnurdux | When the world wep kills anyone there is a segfault |
| 00:44.43 | Gnurdux | otherwise no |
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| 00:49.04 | Gnurdux | orange, it seems that when a world weapon is fired "from" a client, if it kills someone, everyone on the server segfaults |
| 00:50.10 | orange | hmmm, ok |
| 00:51.29 | Gnurdux | hmm not everyone |
| 00:51.33 | Gnurdux | everyone is what theme97 said |
| 00:51.47 | menotume | probably everyone on *nix, or everyone on win |
| 00:51.50 | Gnurdux | can you go to gnurdux.homelinux.net:5154 |
| 00:51.56 | orange | sorry, I cannot |
| 00:51.58 | Gnurdux | menotume, no im doign this with 2 *nix clients |
| 00:52.06 | menotume | and ? |
| 00:52.07 | Gnurdux | both running here |
| 00:52.09 | Gnurdux | one with 4 bots |
| 00:52.16 | menotume | they both crash ? |
| 00:52.19 | Gnurdux | only 1 segfaulted |
| 00:52.24 | menotume | ahh |
| 00:52.33 | Gnurdux | i think only the one that got killed |
| 00:52.59 | menotume | versions ? |
| 00:53.04 | menotume | client / server |
| 00:53.10 | Gnurdux | both 2.0.4 |
| 00:53.22 | Gnurdux | whoops this time both died |
| 00:53.29 | Gnurdux | server doesnt die tho |
| 00:53.51 | menotume | hmm, well i know nothing about worldweapons :( |
| 00:53.56 | Gnurdux | is there a generic function called when someone died, including the player |
| 00:54.02 | Gnurdux | menotume, this isnt a worldweapon issue |
| 00:54.19 | menotume | <Gnurdux> When the world wep kills anyone there is a segfault? |
| 00:54.39 | Gnurdux | only ones fired by users |
| 00:54.46 | Gnurdux | and its related to world weapons |
| 00:54.52 | Gnurdux | but NOT worldweapon specific code |
| 00:55.38 | Gnurdux | menotume, do oyu know what happens when a user died? |
| 00:55.58 | menotume | a lot |
| 00:56.05 | menotume | but no, not offhand |
| 00:56.30 | menotume | seems it has to be specific to 'world weapon fired by player', whatever that is |
| 00:56.47 | Gnurdux | menotume, ok well in the bzfs API you can fire a worldweapon "from" a player |
| 00:57.08 | Gnurdux | and shockwavedeath has an option "usevictim" to fire it from the victim |
| 00:57.16 | menotume | egads |
| 00:57.33 | Gnurdux | but the client wasnt made to support it |
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| 00:57.41 | Gnurdux | and for some reason if it kills anyone it segfaults |
| 00:57.54 | Gnurdux | the worldweapon i mean |
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| 01:12.54 | Gnurdux | bryjen, there is a bug with world weapons with a player as the firer |
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| 01:21.34 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, can you help me try to find it? |
| 01:22.30 | supertanker | what are you looking for? |
| 01:22.33 | Gnurdux | a bug |
| 01:23.02 | blast007 | step on it! |
| 01:23.04 | Gnurdux | actually though since the added feature SHOULD have required a protocol break, it shouldnt be there at all |
| 01:23.07 | supertanker | ah |
| 01:23.16 | supertanker | look under rocks, lots there |
| 01:23.42 | Gnurdux | blast007, you know about SWdeath and usevictim? |
| 01:23.52 | blast007 | I know about it, I just don't use it |
| 01:24.08 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 01:24.32 | Gnurdux | well usevictim uses a feature of fireWorldWep which changes the sender, makes it not SERVER |
| 01:24.39 | blast007 | right |
| 01:24.49 | Gnurdux | but that feature makes clients segfault if it kills anyone |
| 01:24.50 | blast007 | I know about that, by reading what you already said |
| 01:25.02 | Gnurdux | oh ok |
| 01:25.18 | Gnurdux | so it really shouldnt exist, since the current protocol can't handle it |
| 01:25.37 | Gnurdux | unless the feature is fixed in the server |
| 01:26.21 | Gnurdux | which might be possible |
| 01:26.41 | blast007 | probably needs to be fixed in the client...sorta strange that it occurs at all |
| 01:26.44 | Gnurdux | i bet that the problem is that its using server shots, when the shooter is a client |
| 01:26.54 | Gnurdux | blast007, i bet I know it, or the gist of it |
| 01:27.12 | blast007 | though it would be possible that the server is at fault too |
| 01:27.14 | Gnurdux | and it needs to be fixed in both |
| 01:27.15 | a-delusion | usevictim? |
| 01:28.10 | Gnurdux | blast007, here is my guess: |
| 01:28.11 | blast007 | a-delusion: it makes the shockwaves appear as though the one who died fired the shockwave |
| 01:28.11 | Gnurdux | the server fires the world weapon with a server shot descriptor |
| 01:28.11 | Gnurdux | not a client one |
| 01:28.13 | blast007 | you should add debugging to the server to see what it's doing :) |
| 01:28.17 | Gnurdux | then the client tries to get it from the client, and it returns NULL cause that one doesnt exist |
| 01:28.27 | Gnurdux | blast007, if i debug something it would be the client |
| 01:28.31 | a-delusion | -set _useVictim footstool |
| 01:28.47 | Gnurdux | i bet that somewhere the client doesnt check for NULL, tho it does it some places |
| 01:29.01 | blast007 | a-delusion: it's a plugin setting, not sure if it creates a variable |
| 01:29.05 | blast007 | SWDeath |
| 01:29.06 | Gnurdux | it doesnt |
| 01:29.08 | Gnurdux | its an argument |
| 01:30.37 | Gnurdux | it could probably be fixed by firing it using the client's shot descriptors |
| 01:30.48 | blast007 | see if it's even doing that first |
| 01:30.51 | Gnurdux | then it would steal one of the clients shots though |
| 01:31.18 | Gnurdux | and the client wouldnt know, and would reuse the shot, and it would die |
| 01:31.28 | Gnurdux | ah but the client would be dead, at least for SWdeath |
| 01:31.41 | Gnurdux | hmmm, but dead people arent allowed to shoot |
| 01:31.41 | blast007 | they could still have active shots |
| 01:32.11 | Gnurdux | if it fires with one of the clients shots, the client might fire over it and replace it with their own shot |
| 01:32.17 | Gnurdux | if it uses a server shot, the clients crash |
| 01:32.43 | Gnurdux | and it can't be removed without breaking API backwards compatibility |
| 01:33.34 | Gnurdux | int realShotID = shotID; |
| 01:33.34 | Gnurdux | if ( realShotID == 0) |
| 01:33.34 | Gnurdux | realShotID = world->getWorldWeapons().getNewWorldShotID(); |
| 01:33.39 | Gnurdux | see thats where the shotid comes from |
| 01:34.03 | Gnurdux | so it makes sense that something will fail in client when it checks that from the "initiator" of the shot |
| 01:35.17 | Gnurdux | no good fix without breaking protocol |
| 01:35.25 | Gnurdux | and fixing it in the client IS breaking protocol |
| 01:36.27 | Gnurdux | it means that some servers would "require" certain client versions |
| 01:36.29 | blast007 | and what case it shotID set to 0? when the server is the shooter? |
| 01:36.40 | Gnurdux | not the shot ID |
| 01:36.52 | Gnurdux | the shotpath object created from it |
| 01:37.17 | Gnurdux | thats what must be causing the segfaults |
| 01:37.35 | a-delusion | i follow, sorta |
| 01:37.57 | blast007 | Gnurdux: so find a way to fix it :) |
| 01:38.11 | Gnurdux | blast007, but if i fix it in the client, thats baaadd |
| 01:38.23 | Gnurdux | cause it means that older clients still crash |
| 01:38.28 | blast007 | see if you can fix it in the server |
| 01:38.30 | Gnurdux | but there is no good server solution |
| 01:38.44 | blast007 | I don't see why the client should crash if it's given valid information |
| 01:38.49 | Gnurdux | blast007, the problem is that the client is treating it as a player shot, not a world weapon |
| 01:38.50 | blast007 | in this case |
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| 01:38.59 | Gnurdux | hi wegstar |
| 01:39.08 | wegstar | hello Gnurdux |
| 01:39.09 | blast007 | so is the server not sending a valid player shot? |
| 01:39.14 | Gnurdux | therefore its not interpreting it correctly |
| 01:39.17 | Gnurdux | blast007, nope |
| 01:39.21 | blast007 | then fix the server |
| 01:39.34 | Gnurdux | its sending a shot with the shooter of the player but a world weapon shot ID |
| 01:40.12 | Gnurdux | blast007, but if I used a player shot, it would mean that once the player shot that shot, it would replace the wep |
| 01:40.27 | blast007 | better than crashing though, right? |
| 01:40.33 | Gnurdux | true |
| 01:43.59 | supertanker | quit my bandwith went over the limit |
| 01:44.03 | supertanker | crap |
| 01:48.42 | SportChick | who killed guu? |
| 01:49.04 | blast007 | +ping |
| 01:49.19 | blast007 | ah, guess guu isn't here at all :) |
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| 01:52.12 | Gnurdux | blast007, would your solution be to use the players last shot? |
| 01:52.50 | blast007 | Gnurdux: if the server knows the age of a shot, I would say use the oldest, but that's just my opinion |
| 01:54.20 | Gnurdux | the last shot is ALWAYS the last one to reload |
| 01:54.46 | blast007 | Gnurdux: what if they fire two shots, grab a laser, fire two shots, drop the laser, then fire two more shots? |
| 01:54.48 | Gnurdux | you know theres another problem |
| 01:54.50 | blast007 | laser reloads slower |
| 01:54.54 | Gnurdux | clients ignore shots from themselves |
| 01:54.59 | blast007 | right |
| 01:55.11 | Gnurdux | so its really not a good feature to have |
| 01:56.13 | blast007 | maybe just file a bug report on SF |
| 01:56.43 | Gnurdux | wont do much good |
| 01:56.54 | Gnurdux | fix will almost certainly need to wait till 2.1 |
| 01:57.24 | Gnurdux | g2g |
| 01:57.25 | blast007 | I'm not even saying fix it right now, maybe just remove the ability to use that feature |
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| 05:45.46 | DTRemenak | having a better understanding of such things is never unfortunate |
| 05:45.57 | DTRemenak | needing to have a better understanding of them, however, is |
| 05:46.05 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 05:46.19 | JeffM2501 | same type of thing that hit .bz is hitting our work |
| 05:46.28 | DTRemenak | nice |
| 05:46.38 | DTRemenak | seems to be going around a lot recently |
| 05:46.42 | JeffM2501 | have to figure out how to get the apache mod to set an IPtables ban tomorow |
| 05:46.52 | JeffM2501 | aka, how do I get a password into it |
| 05:47.37 | DTRemenak | what fun |
| 05:47.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:48.08 | JeffM2501 | I had an idea about SB :) |
| 05:48.15 | JeffM2501 | remember when I said I wanted to make it zoom |
| 05:48.18 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 05:48.19 | JeffM2501 | and you said it was kinda pointless |
| 05:48.24 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 05:48.45 | JeffM2501 | what if I made a circle in the sight that would let you see thru like 4-5 buildings |
| 05:48.52 | JeffM2501 | with some transperancy |
| 05:48.59 | JeffM2501 | but only when zoomed |
| 05:49.07 | DTRemenak | oooh...sweet. reminds me of that DS9 episode with the homicidal psychotic vulcan |
| 05:49.10 | JeffM2501 | and only in a small ring |
| 05:49.27 | JeffM2501 | I don't recall that one |
| 05:49.28 | DTRemenak | with the rifle that could shoot through walls |
| 05:49.36 | DTRemenak | had a little trackball on the side |
| 05:50.59 | L4m3r | sorta like the farsight in Perfect Dark... except not an instant shot |
| 05:51.20 | JeffM2501 | but it would only go thru a fixed number of objects |
| 05:51.28 | JeffM2501 | each one adding more opacity where they overlap |
| 05:51.28 | L4m3r | yeah |
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| 05:51.44 | L4m3r | PD used a weird screen effect that basically did the same thing |
| 05:52.05 | L4m3r | the more crap in the way, the harder it was to distinguish a target from the surounding noise |
| 05:52.27 | JeffM2501 | I'm thinking also make what you see be color bind |
| 05:52.32 | L4m3r | I just had an idea for an evil flag, heh. |
| 05:52.34 | JeffM2501 | in black and white |
| 05:52.56 | L4m3r | connected shots, all your shots have a deadly line between them |
| 05:53.08 | JeffM2501 | why not just use laser? |
| 05:53.13 | L4m3r | to a certain distance of course |
| 05:53.21 | L4m3r | no, this would be like throwing a net. |
| 05:53.36 | L4m3r | or a bolas that doesn't spin |
| 05:53.39 | JeffM2501 | why not just kill everyone infrot of you |
| 05:53.42 | L4m3r | lol |
| 05:53.57 | L4m3r | yeah, with a lot of shots it'd be an issue. |
| 05:54.02 | JeffM2501 | what would it's disatvantage or defense be? |
| 05:54.10 | L4m3r | range? |
| 05:54.19 | L4m3r | limited "branch" distance |
| 05:54.22 | JeffM2501 | don't think that would balance it enough |
| 05:54.41 | L4m3r | it would be like a jumpable, directed shockwave |
| 05:54.58 | JeffM2501 | why not use shockwave |
| 05:55.09 | L4m3r | longer range :P |
| 05:55.17 | L4m3r | more accurate... |
| 05:55.24 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't sound like it gives that much more advantage over others |
| 05:55.32 | JeffM2501 | and it's just based on a cool visual effect |
| 05:55.42 | L4m3r | yeah, I was about to say that :D |
| 05:55.49 | L4m3r | an excuse for eye candy, lol |
| 05:56.02 | JeffM2501 | while eye candy is good |
| 05:56.12 | JeffM2501 | it should never be the reason for a game design choice |
| 05:56.35 | L4m3r | I was thinking, too, should super bullet's piercing capacity be finite? |
| 05:56.50 | JeffM2501 | in bzflag, yes |
| 05:56.56 | JeffM2501 | in playground proably no |
| 05:57.03 | JeffM2501 | make it slow down on each phase |
| 05:57.11 | JeffM2501 | or loose damage |
| 05:57.14 | L4m3r | was thinking the same thing |
| 05:57.36 | L4m3r | if you really wanted to be mean you could do something with surface normals |
| 05:57.48 | L4m3r | refractive :D |
| 05:57.56 | JeffM2501 | a game should not punish it's players |
| 05:58.10 | L4m3r | you know what I meant :P |
| 05:58.27 | L4m3r | yeah, refraction... change the direction slightly as it passes in and out of things |
| 05:58.52 | L4m3r | so, for parallel-faced walls, it would only move laterally, slightly |
| 05:58.54 | JeffM2501 | then the shot would be pointless to aim |
| 05:59.01 | L4m3r | true |
| 05:59.02 | JeffM2501 | and to be efective it has to be a pray and spray |
| 05:59.13 | menotume | i want to put 'spin' on shots for rico affects :) |
| 05:59.13 | Aribeth | lol |
| 05:59.38 | L4m3r | like if the tank is turning? |
| 05:59.42 | Aribeth | how about a slow curvball? :P |
| 05:59.42 | trepan | bzbilliards |
| 05:59.44 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/TR-116_rifle |
| 05:59.48 | menotume | no, controllable english |
| 05:59.54 | menotume | trepan: right :) |
| 06:00.00 | Aribeth | lol |
| 06:00.15 | Aribeth | put some english on that shot |
| 06:00.20 | menotume | masse shots :) |
| 06:00.25 | menotume | jump shots |
| 06:00.35 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: and I think it's a wonderful idea ;) |
| 06:00.36 | Aribeth | fly ball shots |
| 06:00.41 | L4m3r | just make a pool table map where tank speed is zero |
| 06:00.50 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, why not just beam the shot into the person's head? |
| 06:00.51 | L4m3r | spawn and shoot until someone beats you to it |
| 06:00.58 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: don't ask me |
| 06:00.59 | Aribeth | just line up the tanks |
| 06:01.03 | trepan | menotume: carom off of teammates? |
| 06:01.05 | JeffM2501 | or just beam the head away from the person :) |
| 06:01.05 | DTRemenak | I didn't write the episode, I just watched it ;) |
| 06:01.08 | Aribeth | hehehe |
| 06:01.17 | menotume | cool, yes, kiss shots |
| 06:01.38 | Aribeth | lol |
| 06:02.40 | L4m3r | still don't get the whole thursday night party thing |
| 06:02.57 | PuMpErNiCkLe | It's like a friday night party, only you start early. |
| 06:02.58 | purple_cow | well, it's almost friday |
| 06:03.12 | L4m3r | but people hardly party on friday |
| 06:03.13 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Depending on the people, you keep going until then, too. |
| 06:03.19 | L4m3r | and some on sat, but not as many as thursday |
| 06:03.40 | L4m3r | thursday is literally the biggest party night of the week. |
| 06:04.08 | purple_cow | maybe they all party on thursday because that's when everyone else is partying |
| 06:04.33 | L4m3r | That's like a recursive function without a base case. |
| 06:07.58 | PuMpErNiCkLe | lots of nutcases, tho |
| 06:08.15 | purple_cow | L4m3r: that doesn't make it wrong |
| 06:08.15 | L4m3r | hehe :) |
| 06:08.55 | L4m3r | maybe this place just has a thing for weird traditions... |
| 06:09.01 | L4m3r | like the undie run, for instance. |
| 06:09.20 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ^__^ |
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| 06:23.12 | Tupone | JeffM2501: bakadigital.com is your domain? |
| 06:23.18 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 06:23.30 | Tupone | http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/ :( |
| 06:23.35 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 06:23.39 | Tupone | ok |
| 06:23.46 | JeffM2501 | I had to take them all down |
| 06:23.59 | JeffM2501 | machine was geting nailed |
| 06:23.59 | _Manu_ | buongiorno Tupone and hi JeffM2501 |
| 06:24.09 | Tupone | hola _Manu_ |
| 06:24.12 | JeffM2501 | will have to move them to another machine this weekend |
| 06:24.13 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 06:25.15 | Tupone | going to start-up for work. cu |
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| 09:20.08 | sniperyyd | hi all |
| 09:20.22 | sniperyyd | i've heard of the new plugin api, how to use it? |
| 09:32.33 | sniperyyd | on windows, where is plug ins\SAMPLE_PLUGIN ? |
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| 11:03.33 | yummy | 'lo . Since http://my.bzflag.org/bb has moved i need to login each time . In addition when logged all is as if i have read all new posts (no new posts shown) |
| 11:03.39 | yummy | any hints ? |
| 11:37.49 | [dmp] | yummy: have you tried clearing all cookes from my.bzflag.org ? |
| 11:38.19 | [dmp] | I dont have that problem, so it could be a browser-thing |
| 11:38.20 | yummy | [dmp]: i have tried to clean the cache ... but missed the cookies part |
| 11:39.13 | [dmp] | yummy: its worth the try :) |
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| 11:40.38 | yummy | [dmp]: done ... but to ensure it's working i will have to check when new posts from now as it seems it implicitly made all posts read actually |
| 11:43.58 | [dmp] | yummy: hm any good ideas for a new topic? :) I dont need an avatar, so i cant use that :) |
| 11:44.36 | yummy | haha |
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| 12:43.29 | yummy | [dmp] : it's working fine now .. after deleted my.bzflag.org cookies |
| 12:43.45 | yummy | [dmp] : thx ;) |
| 12:44.05 | [dmp] | yummy: np :) |
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| 14:56.36 | JeffM2501 | that was a good week o' travelin |
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| 16:54.39 | JeffM2501 | *Sigh* why do people thing plugins can do any modification to the game? |
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| 16:59.35 | Usiu | Hi |
| 16:59.47 | Usiu | Does bzfag client block audio device ? |
| 16:59.57 | Usiu | or does it use alsa ? |
| 17:00.57 | JeffM2501 | it depends on what your SDL is set to use |
| 17:01.08 | JeffM2501 | if your SDL is built with alsa it can use alsa |
| 17:02.04 | Usiu | JeffM2501, cool thx |
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| 17:44.12 | ruskie | hmm still haven't lost my edge.. even after NOT playing for so leng... |
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| 18:19.19 | _Manu_ | ruskie, oh I forgot to remove you ;) |
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| 18:28.05 | CapN13 | now i remember why i never check in here :) |
| 18:28.35 | CBG | But, you miss out on _all_ the excitement, CapN13 :) |
| 18:29.10 | CapN13 | lol CBG |
| 18:29.20 | CBG | Excitement!! |
| 18:29.22 | CapN13 | i can see that |
| 18:31.09 | ruskie | _Manu_, erm? |
| 18:31.26 | CapN13 | so ...whats going on...with list server...website etc.? |
| 18:32.02 | JeffM2501 | it has some problems |
| 18:32.07 | JeffM2501 | that are being worked out |
| 18:33.06 | CapN13 | k...thx...was just curious |
| 18:34.56 | CapN13 | i'll go back to cleaning the house then |
| 18:36.24 | CBG | Have lots of excitement with that vacuum cleaner... |
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| 18:46.37 | biffiford | yo yo yo |
| 18:48.01 | CBG | hey hey hey ma homie, w'sup? |
| 18:48.16 | biffiford | can't get to the list server |
| 18:48.31 | biffiford | stopping by to look at the topic but there's no info there |
| 18:48.37 | CBG | (Argh, don't lynch me! I was just making the guy feel at home, down in da gehtto!) |
| 18:48.54 | CBG | biffiford: it's having problems - they are working on it... |
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| 19:43.57 | JeffM2501 | mmmm beer at lunch :) |
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| 20:26.19 | JeffM2501 | bubbye guu |
| 20:26.28 | CBG | :( |
| 20:26.29 | JeffM2501 | live well in the next life |
| 20:27.25 | CBG | No burial or cremation? No service at all? |
| 20:27.36 | JeffM2501 | guu belived in reincarnation |
| 20:27.39 | JeffM2501 | so no |
| 20:27.46 | CBG | I see. :( |
| 20:28.16 | JeffM2501 | guu is sure she'll be back |
| 20:28.22 | JeffM2501 | as soon as her fatass logs copy |
| 20:28.28 | CBG | heh |
| 20:33.08 | bryjen | is guu a cylon? |
| 20:33.21 | JeffM2501 | no more of a zen budist |
| 20:33.35 | JeffM2501 | cylons don't have fatass logs |
| 20:33.41 | JeffM2501 | they use compresion |
| 21:05.30 | JeffM2501 | ~hi |
| 21:05.31 | ibot | hello, jeffm2501 |
| 21:05.34 | JeffM2501 | !hi |
| 21:05.42 | JeffM2501 | $hi |
| 21:05.46 | JeffM2501 | $ it is :) |
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| 21:07.08 | brad | $ping |
| 21:07.09 | Guu | pong |
| 21:07.12 | brad | it lives |
| 21:09.42 | JeffM2501 | sort of |
| 21:09.46 | JeffM2501 | she's not the same |
| 21:09.49 | JeffM2501 | guu rocks |
| 21:09.50 | Guu | JeffM2501: Error: "rocks" is not a valid command. |
| 21:10.41 | CBG | JeffM2501: how's she different? |
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| 21:34.33 | JeffM2501 | CBG, empty databases |
| 21:34.54 | CBG | O_O |
| 21:35.03 | JeffM2501 | moved to new machine |
| 21:35.08 | JeffM2501 | can't get the old verison she was on |
| 21:35.12 | JeffM2501 | so she's a new install |
| 21:35.20 | CBG | aw |
| 21:35.33 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to migrate the data manualy |
| 21:35.40 | JeffM2501 | and I don't have time for that today |
| 21:36.07 | CBG | I see. |
| 21:36.33 | JeffM2501 | it should be "fun" |
| 21:37.02 | CBG | I bet. |
| 21:39.41 | JeffM2501 | mostly it's just her channels and feed I need moved |
| 21:39.54 | JeffM2501 | unless we want to move all the feeds into ibot |
| 21:40.09 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, ibot supports RSS feeds and anouncements now right? |
| 21:41.03 | brad | ~rss http://gu.bzleague.com/rss/ |
| 21:41.13 | brad | dunno about announcements |
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| 21:59.08 | LouMan | Does anyone know if I can synchronize (exactly) world weapon timing with a dynamic color alpha sequence? I am trying to make a countdown... |
| 21:59.30 | LouMan | to annunciate a regular world weapon, but it seems to always be a bit off |
| 21:59.57 | LouMan | I am assuming that it has to do with the initialization of the timed events |
| 22:00.41 | trepan | world weapons are not sync'ed with drawInfo/texmat/dyncol |
| 22:00.56 | trepan | had a patch for it, not too hard to do |
| 22:04.23 | JeffM2501 | if we'd rather have ibot do the rss and anouncements, then that's fine, then I don't have to run guu. |
| 22:04.29 | JeffM2501 | but I don't mind running guu ether |
| 22:07.48 | CBG | That's all GUU was for? |
| 22:08.01 | JeffM2501 | and cursing in Chinese |
| 22:08.11 | JeffM2501 | did CIA RSS too |
| 22:08.22 | CBG | Oh, yeah. How could I have forgotten that? :D |
| 22:08.58 | purple_cow | it seems a little silly to have an IRC bot which reads CIA RSS feeds and prints items to IRC :P |
| 22:09.17 | purple_cow | actually, s/a little/extraordinarily/ |
| 22:09.27 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, no not that |
| 22:09.40 | JeffM2501 | it coudl use the RSS to tell the last N commits to any project or developer |
| 22:09.50 | JeffM2501 | something CIA bot does not doo |
| 22:10.10 | purple_cow | silly! |
| 22:10.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:13.44 | JeffM2501 | likie I say, not much |
| 22:14.01 | JeffM2501 | she had a cool name tho |
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| 22:17.50 | purple_cow | yeah... |
| 22:28.23 | brlcad | i like that idea myself |
| 22:28.51 | JeffM2501 | what idea? |
| 22:28.57 | brlcad | whether it's rss or not, being able to ask CIA for the stats like are on the site |
| 22:29.11 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:29.16 | JeffM2501 | guu could do that |
| 22:29.22 | JeffM2501 | tho she's gone stupid now |
| 22:29.46 | brlcad | last n commits (per dev, per project), top commiters today, top all time, etc |
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| 22:42.22 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 22:42.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's hozed again |
| 22:43.53 | bryjen | yup. "unable to connect" instead of the db error page :( |
| 22:44.34 | JeffM2501 | we got hit by the same thing at work last night |
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| 22:57.04 | JeffM2501 | is webmin not the coolest thing EVAR? |
| 22:59.33 | wegstar | it is ;) |
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| 23:00.24 | JeffM2501 | they are nice |
| 23:00.28 | JeffM2501 | but webmin is cool |
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| 23:01.50 | LouMan | /msg nickserv register <your-password> |
| 23:01.58 | LouMan | /msg nickserv register <your-password> |
| 23:02.02 | JeffM2501 | umm |
| 23:02.05 | CBG | ~A_Meteorite++ |
| 23:02.05 | LouMan | sry |
| 23:02.07 | JeffM2501 | LouMan, we can see that |
| 23:02.10 | JeffM2501 | just so you know :) |
| 23:03.00 | JeffM2501 | tho that would be a good password :) |
| 23:03.26 | CBG | Not anymore.. ;) |
| 23:03.28 | wegstar | :P |
| 23:04.52 | trepan | LouMan: 2 of the gem edges along the top should be spun |
| 23:05.14 | LouMan | sry trepan, can't pm until i register - thx :) |
| 23:05.46 | LouMan | any ideas about the timing? |
| 23:06.09 | trepan | yup, as i'd previously mentionned, i had a patch for it |
| 23:06.44 | trepan | weapon timing is not sync'ed to any clock, it's cummulative |
| 23:08.48 | LouMan | 'had' a patch - past tense? |
| 23:09.20 | trepan | yup |
| 23:09.30 | trepan | twas fairly small, easy enough to rewrite |
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| 23:16.15 | JeffM2501 | so is it bad when configure says it "failed C++ sanity checks" ? |
| 23:18.15 | JeffM2501 | how do I change from using gcc3 to gcc 4? |
| 23:18.34 | [dmp] | Do you guys want to be notified if i see the database is down (like now) ? |
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| 23:18.52 | JeffM2501 | it's more then the database |
| 23:23.23 | [dmp] | Oh |
| 23:26.01 | Tupone | JeffM2501: in gentoo gcc-config, in debian try some gcc<tab> |
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| 23:26.30 | JeffM2501 | gcc gcc-3.3 gccbug gccbug-3.3 |
| 23:27.04 | Tupone | you don't have gcc-4 then |
| 23:27.17 | Tupone | maybe you need to apt it |
| 23:27.38 | JeffM2501 | there is no gcc-4 package |
| 23:27.39 | Tupone | I guess you miss g++ too |
| 23:28.37 | JeffM2501 | it's a minimal install of sarge |
| 23:29.27 | trepan | JeffM2501: gcc-4.0 and gcc-4.1 pkgs are in, try using a package mgmt tools and searching |
| 23:29.55 | JeffM2501 | I've been searching but gcc shows a lot of stuff |
| 23:30.07 | JeffM2501 | this system dosn't have any clicky package tools :) |
| 23:30.10 | JeffM2501 | went headless on it |
| 23:30.14 | bryjen | the c++ compiler is g++ |
| 23:30.34 | JeffM2501 | I found a g++-3.4 one |
| 23:30.35 | trepan | JeffM2501: dselect and aptitude are your friends then |
| 23:30.36 | JeffM2501 | trying that |
| 23:35.04 | JeffM2501 | aptitude interface makes brain hurt.... |
| 23:35.42 | trepan | dselect is worst ;) |
| 23:36.13 | [dmp] | what about apt-get install gcc-4.0 (or gcc-4.1) ? |
| 23:36.21 | JeffM2501 | it says that the "gcc"package is 4.someting |
| 23:36.30 | JeffM2501 | and it says I have it |
| 23:36.39 | JeffM2501 | but gcc --version says 3.4 |
| 23:37.01 | JeffM2501 | apt-cache search dosn't show any gcc packages with -4 anything |
| 23:38.45 | Tupone | JeffM2501: sarge does not have gcc-4 |
| 23:38.53 | JeffM2501 | that would explain it then :) |
| 23:38.55 | Tupone | sarge is "stable" |
| 23:38.58 | JeffM2501 | do I need 4? |
| 23:39.01 | Tupone | nope |
| 23:39.02 | JeffM2501 | just want to build server |
| 23:39.08 | Tupone | you need g++ |
| 23:40.03 | Tupone | JeffM2501: get aptitude first |
| 23:40.15 | JeffM2501 | I have aptitude |
| 23:40.19 | Tupone | then start it |
| 23:40.23 | JeffM2501 | I was in it |
| 23:40.26 | JeffM2501 | it make me vomit |
| 23:40.28 | Tupone | and "/g++ |
| 23:40.29 | JeffM2501 | g++ is geting now |
| 23:40.32 | Tupone | ok |
| 23:40.46 | Tupone | / is to start search, like in vi |
| 23:40.55 | Tupone | or in firefox |
| 23:40.59 | JeffM2501 | I clicked the search thing :) |
| 23:41.08 | JeffM2501 | then yelled at it for a while |
| 23:41.13 | JeffM2501 | yelling works :) |
| 23:41.17 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:42.05 | JeffM2501 | yay it finished config |
| 23:42.07 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 23:57.13 | JeffM2501 | wow it takes a while for a 733mhz P3 to build dosn't it |