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| 00:38.38 | Poopyloopastoopa | Can someone reset the blue flags on Manu or Pimpi's server? |
| 00:38.46 | Poopyloopastoopa | The blue flag is not there. |
| 00:39.51 | L4m3r | can you /poll flagreset? |
| 00:41.58 | Poopyloopastoopa | No. That doesn't work. |
| 00:42.06 | Poopyloopastoopa | It's at viper2.pimpi.org |
| 00:42.37 | uso | there's an admin online at viper ;) |
| 00:42.48 | Poopyloopastoopa | He can't reset it. Only Manu or Pimpi can. |
| 00:43.05 | uso | was online ... |
| 00:43.19 | uso | oops, not even an admin |
| 01:13.53 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:13.53 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: add a game ruleset for sheilded tanks w/ armor |
| 01:13.53 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: clean the heck out of the init for bzfs |
| 01:18.20 | CBG | Armor! :O |
| 01:19.59 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:20.14 | JeffM2501 | it's what you lose after you run out of shield power |
| 01:20.17 | JeffM2501 | and it dosn't come back |
| 01:23.20 | JeffM2501 | may do a repair pickup at some point |
| 01:23.35 | JeffM2501 | or maybe you have to sit at your base and not move or shoot for some time |
| 01:23.41 | JeffM2501 | then they will fix you |
| 01:24.36 | JeffM2501 | hmm wonder if I should make the tanks run worse when they are allmost dead |
| 01:24.49 | JeffM2501 | like drive and turn slower, and shoot wonkey :) |
| 01:24.52 | JeffM2501 | that's be kinda mean tho |
| 01:24.53 | L4m3r | start cracking the windshield too |
| 01:25.12 | JeffM2501 | actualy that's the best time to start giving out bad flags |
| 01:25.15 | JeffM2501 | as you get busted |
| 01:25.18 | L4m3r | lol |
| 01:25.30 | JeffM2501 | and you have to get them fixed at your base's repair center |
| 01:25.50 | L4m3r | rename them to "lost tread" or "broken muffler" or "gun jammed" |
| 01:25.55 | JeffM2501 | like a random bad flag for every 25% health you loose |
| 01:26.15 | JeffM2501 | "bent barrel" |
| 01:26.29 | L4m3r | lol |
| 01:26.39 | JeffM2501 | then to give them on pickup you make some random pickups be "defective" |
| 01:26.42 | L4m3r | busted sight :) |
| 01:26.43 | JeffM2501 | and have a chance to blow |
| 01:27.01 | JeffM2501 | but they blow when you pick them up, and are inside your sheild |
| 01:27.06 | JeffM2501 | so it's all health |
| 01:29.37 | bryjen | there's no more -ms... are there new -options to turn on this stuff? |
| 01:29.44 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 01:29.52 | JeffM2501 | it's what I'm writing now |
| 01:29.57 | JeffM2501 | and they arn't options |
| 01:30.11 | JeffM2501 | the default ruleset is health + armor |
| 01:30.22 | JeffM2501 | but eventualy you'll be able to define what ruleset you want |
| 01:30.32 | JeffM2501 | and the varialbes will be pulled from bzdb |
| 01:30.59 | JeffM2501 | I'm in the process of taking out all the internal max shots |
| 01:35.21 | bryjen | ok, more changes still to come. i shoulda guessed, since it still builds on linux ;) |
| 01:35.36 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:35.45 | JeffM2501 | it still should |
| 01:35.51 | JeffM2501 | even when I'm done |
| 01:35.55 | JeffM2501 | VC8 maybe not |
| 01:40.32 | JeffM2501 | wow shots only last 3.5 seconds? |
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| 02:09.34 | brlcad | hehd, i feel mildly evil |
| 02:11.18 | brlcad | finally got around to fulfilling a request for up-until-now-404 images presumably from .bz's former ip owner |
| 02:13.41 | brlcad | hopefully a nice view of a particular farm animal is enough of a clue for them to delink |
| 02:14.10 | L4m3r | lol |
| 02:18.02 | purple_cow | i remember scanlime doing that sort of thing for our fyre gallery |
| 02:18.28 | purple_cow | lots of myspace folks using our server for their background images |
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| 02:51.22 | JeffM2501 | so it's allways the job of the client to end shots ? |
| 02:53.47 | Tupone | if the shot end naturally, no end shot |
| 02:54.01 | JeffM2501 | and all the clients just "know"? |
| 02:54.06 | Tupone | yep |
| 02:54.06 | JeffM2501 | from the life |
| 02:54.33 | JeffM2501 | so that's why the server allways checks the endtime AND the status boolean |
| 02:57.42 | Tupone | fix what? |
| 03:02.18 | JeffM2501 | the server removing it's own local shots when they expire |
| 03:02.26 | JeffM2501 | so it's a simple check |
| 03:02.55 | JeffM2501 | then the shotlist is just the live shots |
| 03:03.42 | Tupone | ok. any news on the 2.0.8? I'm going to sleep now |
| 03:03.55 | JeffM2501 | didn't do anything on it today, maybe tomrow |
| 03:04.17 | orange | ugh |
| 03:04.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:04.57 | TheRedBaron | thats one of the things I haven't washed yet. |
| 03:05.15 | Tupone | nite all |
| 03:06.13 | JeffM2501 | then it's good he dosn't see this :) |
| 03:06.17 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (11 files in 3 dirs): alass kurbos we hardly knew you.. but you are kinda ugly.. so get out. |
| 03:09.32 | bryjen | don't taunt the dog, you could end up thrice bitten |
| 03:12.03 | JeffM2501 | do not taunt the happy fun ball |
| 03:12.56 | JeffM2501 | is it just me or does 2.1 no longer use the "grab flag" messate |
| 03:12.59 | JeffM2501 | message |
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| 03:32.16 | bryjen | no, when i drive over a flag, i receive MsgGrabFlag, in playground at least |
| 03:32.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah you do |
| 03:32.34 | JeffM2501 | but you don't SEND one |
| 03:32.49 | JeffM2501 | the server checks to see if you are near a flag each update |
| 03:33.05 | JeffM2501 | so that's a good anti-cheat |
| 03:34.00 | JeffM2501 | hmm, is PZ usefull at ALL? |
| 03:34.29 | L4m3r | its use is very, very specialized, so, not often. |
| 03:34.40 | JeffM2501 | then I'm gonna pull it |
| 03:34.42 | bryjen | probly not in teamless ffa |
| 03:34.48 | L4m3r | unless you pepper the map with them and a bunch of teles |
| 03:34.53 | JeffM2501 | even in team FFA? or team CTF? |
| 03:35.14 | TheRedBaron | if PZ can squish burrow, that woudl be cool |
| 03:35.15 | L4m3r | perhaps you should make it a forbidden flag when no teles are in the game world ;P |
| 03:35.17 | JeffM2501 | I mean is it as usefull as like GM or wings |
| 03:35.23 | orange | TheRedBaron: great idea |
| 03:35.29 | bryjen | you can be a "shield" of sorts, interfering with an enemy GM |
| 03:35.30 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, I'm gonna pull it |
| 03:35.45 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, that is what chaff and decoys are for :) |
| 03:35.47 | orange | can it squish BU? |
| 03:35.55 | blast007 | the general use for PZ is to hide behind a teleporter and jump back and forth through the zoned phase :) |
| 03:36.06 | TheRedBaron | orange: currently - no |
| 03:36.07 | JeffM2501 | so it's like OO for pussys? |
| 03:36.10 | orange | much like a very limited OO |
| 03:36.23 | bryjen | being able to cross the field zoned depends on there being tele's where you need them |
| 03:36.29 | blast007 | JeffM2501: pretty much |
| 03:36.43 | JeffM2501 | ok so it's pointless |
| 03:36.44 | JeffM2501 | out it goes |
| 03:37.03 | JeffM2501 | trying to define all the posible data a shot can have |
| 03:37.04 | bryjen | one more advantage over OO, the SB can't shoot thru the tele to get you |
| 03:37.11 | Theme97 | How come [nr] can squish BU (last time I checked). |
| 03:37.14 | Theme97 | ? |
| 03:37.41 | JeffM2501 | damage, juice cost, life, speed, team, graphicalEffect, phases, guilded, ricos, and steals |
| 03:38.09 | bryjen | ~dict guilded |
| 03:38.18 | Theme97 | :/ |
| 03:38.20 | orange | s/l// |
| 03:38.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's how i have it in code, just bad typing here |
| 03:39.13 | orange | my s/// was for others, not you :-) |
| 03:39.36 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 03:39.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:39.46 | JeffM2501 | what somone else mispell!!!! |
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| 03:39.49 | JeffM2501 | that's my thing |
| 03:39.56 | JeffM2501 | I pateneted it |
| 03:40.12 | orange | nice |
| 03:40.14 | TheRedBaron | i'm in trouble then |
| 03:40.16 | JeffM2501 | or I would have if they hadn't rejected my aplication based on mispellings |
| 03:40.53 | orange | I have a feeling you could have half the typos if you typed half the speed :-) |
| 03:41.00 | JeffM2501 | prolly |
| 03:41.01 | orange | but what's the fun in that? |
| 03:41.02 | TheRedBaron | Hrm, what a delimma - what flavor of ice cream do go for tonight? |
| 03:41.06 | JeffM2501 | and this keyboard SUCKS |
| 03:41.15 | JeffM2501 | it came with a 179$ computer |
| 03:41.19 | L4m3r | lol |
| 03:41.32 | orange | you have 3 gigs of ram |
| 03:41.37 | L4m3r | mine is filthy and I can't clean it :P |
| 03:41.39 | Theme97 | Ahem. Can [nr] still squish BU? |
| 03:41.39 | JeffM2501 | not on this machine |
| 03:41.40 | orange | and a crappy keyboard |
| 03:41.50 | JeffM2501 | main machine has 3 gigs and a real keyboard |
| 03:41.54 | JeffM2501 | don't do IRC on the main |
| 03:42.00 | JeffM2501 | cus I'm allways swapin fullscreen |
| 03:42.19 | JeffM2501 | Theme97, look and see |
| 03:42.31 | Theme97 | Uh, how, exactly? |
| 03:42.39 | JeffM2501 | run 2 clients |
| 03:42.39 | Theme97 | How can I force that? |
| 03:42.40 | blast007 | Theme97: preferably with your eyes |
| 03:42.41 | JeffM2501 | make one go NR |
| 03:42.46 | JeffM2501 | run on 2 machines |
| 03:42.51 | JeffM2501 | unplug it's NIC :) |
| 03:43.03 | Theme97 | But the laptop won't even spawn before I can [nr] it! |
| 03:43.18 | Theme97 | The laptop's BZ is borked. |
| 03:43.22 | L4m3r | I think I could make players go NR with a plugin once... I can't remember how I did it... |
| 03:43.43 | Theme97 | bz_killPlayer(i, false); with the latest API? |
| 03:43.50 | L4m3r | OH- the killplayer function, yes! |
| 03:43.57 | Theme97 | Yes! |
| 03:43.59 | L4m3r | leave off the "from" bit and there ya go :P |
| 03:51.44 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add shot descriptor class to define how shots are, independent of the flag |
| 03:53.13 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 5 dirs): get rid of that max shot limit on the server, start using info from the rules class |
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| 04:02.05 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03bryjen 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/common/Makefile.am: typo |
| 04:02.16 | JeffM2501 | what did I do wrong? |
| 04:02.53 | bryjen | missing a letter in a filename |
| 04:02.59 | JeffM2501 | I am dumb |
| 04:03.02 | JeffM2501 | I'm sorry |
| 04:03.12 | bryjen | no, you just can't type ;) |
| 04:03.24 | JeffM2501 | maybe I can't type cus I'm dumb? |
| 04:03.48 | bryjen | doubtful |
| 04:04.11 | JeffM2501 | I think it's mostly cus I don't have a fast way to test on linux |
| 04:04.23 | JeffM2501 | on windows I'd know if I put the wrong file in :) |
| 04:05.15 | bryjen | it'd be clicky, so you couldn't miss just one letter |
| 04:06.19 | JeffM2501 | I love the click :) |
| 04:06.24 | JeffM2501 | tho I usualy copy and paste |
| 04:06.27 | JeffM2501 | for filenames |
| 04:07.31 | Aribeth | hi jeffM2501 |
| 04:07.43 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 04:08.02 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (13 files in 6 dirs): |
| 04:08.02 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: ahh phantom zone... you had a good run man.. but it's time for your pink slip... you |
| 04:08.02 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: kinda suck. |
| 04:08.12 | Aribeth | everquest runs fairly decent |
| 04:08.16 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 04:08.20 | JeffM2501 | what setting do you have it on? |
| 04:08.24 | JeffM2501 | performance? |
| 04:08.35 | Aribeth | hi performance |
| 04:08.51 | JeffM2501 | ahh ok |
| 04:08.57 | JeffM2501 | well at least it's not the lowest one :) |
| 04:09.01 | JeffM2501 | how do you like it? |
| 04:09.14 | Aribeth | i think im hooked :P |
| 04:09.18 | JeffM2501 | so soon? |
| 04:09.20 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 04:09.24 | JeffM2501 | what server did you get on? |
| 04:09.36 | Aribeth | nektulos |
| 04:10.08 | JeffM2501 | I know one is Antonia Baile |
| 04:10.15 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:10.24 | JeffM2501 | but I think that is only one character |
| 04:10.39 | JeffM2501 | ahh all my others are on nek |
| 04:10.45 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:10.53 | JeffM2501 | what did you make? |
| 04:11.02 | Aribeth | a guardian |
| 04:11.09 | JeffM2501 | they are fun |
| 04:11.20 | Aribeth | alreadu up to lvl 5 |
| 04:11.23 | JeffM2501 | take a lickin keep on tickin |
| 04:11.26 | JeffM2501 | need any money? |
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| 04:11.43 | Aribeth | i duno yet...kinda learning how it all works |
| 04:12.08 | JeffM2501 | what is your character's name? |
| 04:12.13 | Aribeth | Aribeth |
| 04:12.23 | JeffM2501 | wow you got that name? |
| 04:12.27 | Aribeth | ya |
| 04:12.35 | JeffM2501 | that's rather amasing |
| 04:12.42 | Aribeth | i was suprised i got it |
| 04:13.40 | JeffM2501 | you'll have mail in about 30 min |
| 04:13.47 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:14.02 | Aribeth | there is a lot to learn sor dure |
| 04:14.08 | JeffM2501 | you still on the island? |
| 04:14.11 | Aribeth | ya |
| 04:14.21 | JeffM2501 | ok you'll have mail when you get off the island then :) |
| 04:14.27 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:14.45 | Aribeth | took me a while to get some of the quests done |
| 04:14.48 | JeffM2501 | your on "noob-isle" now |
| 04:14.53 | JeffM2501 | they are good quests to do |
| 04:14.54 | Aribeth | tep |
| 04:14.58 | Aribeth | yep |
| 04:15.12 | JeffM2501 | what race? |
| 04:15.23 | Aribeth | high elf |
| 04:15.35 | JeffM2501 | that will be a very "interesting" guardian |
| 04:15.50 | JeffM2501 | you'll have good avoidance |
| 04:15.56 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:16.06 | JeffM2501 | not so hot on the HP tho |
| 04:16.13 | Aribeth | agg |
| 04:16.16 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:16.52 | Aribeth | prolly wont be my last character |
| 04:17.01 | JeffM2501 | you get 6 I think |
| 04:17.03 | JeffM2501 | I get 10 |
| 04:17.15 | Aribeth | expansion pack? |
| 04:17.18 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 04:17.21 | JeffM2501 | station pass |
| 04:17.25 | Aribeth | ahhh |
| 04:17.31 | JeffM2501 | they don't add slots per expansion |
| 04:17.37 | Aribeth | oh |
| 04:17.39 | JeffM2501 | station pass gets you every SEO game |
| 04:17.43 | JeffM2501 | and 4 more slots in eq2 |
| 04:17.45 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:17.55 | JeffM2501 | 22.95 a month instead of 15 |
| 04:18.39 | Aribeth | i went to walmart and found the station access collection |
| 04:19.03 | Aribeth | 5 games in one package |
| 04:19.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 04:19.16 | JeffM2501 | it's a higher monthly tho |
| 04:19.35 | Aribeth | i couldnt fine just eq2 |
| 04:19.50 | JeffM2501 | shoudl be 20$ |
| 04:19.54 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:20.39 | JeffM2501 | http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=645832 |
| 04:21.00 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:21.41 | Aribeth | so the collection is treated as one package then |
| 04:22.34 | JeffM2501 | probably depends on how you do your billing setup |
| 04:22.39 | JeffM2501 | but it's a waste of money for you |
| 04:22.45 | JeffM2501 | matrix sux |
| 04:22.48 | JeffM2501 | star wars suczx |
| 04:22.55 | JeffM2501 | eq1 is nothing like eq2 |
| 04:23.06 | JeffM2501 | and planetside gets old after about a week |
| 04:23.11 | Aribeth | out here its a crap shoot on what can be found |
| 04:23.34 | JeffM2501 | you can probalby get the 20$ eq2 right from sony as a digital download |
| 04:23.36 | Aribeth | no best buy, or frys near |
| 04:23.40 | JeffM2501 | then just use the key |
| 04:23.45 | JeffM2501 | you have the game allready |
| 04:24.00 | Aribeth | i looked, but couldnt find a digital dl |
| 04:24.24 | Aribeth | ya |
| 04:24.52 | JeffM2501 | well ya got time, just order the DVD and be done with it :) |
| 04:25.10 | Aribeth | i'll see what i can find |
| 04:25.27 | JeffM2501 | for what you are gonna do, there is no reason for you to pay over 20$ |
| 04:25.34 | Aribeth | nope |
| 04:25.45 | Aribeth | i'll look into that too |
| 04:26.28 | JeffM2501 | bz so could be more like planetside tho :) |
| 04:26.38 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:29.13 | Aribeth | the book says the fees apply for each game |
| 04:29.30 | JeffM2501 | well you can pay for each seperately |
| 04:29.31 | Aribeth | so i may get away with just eq2 |
| 04:29.34 | JeffM2501 | or get a station pass |
| 04:29.43 | Aribeth | i just want eq2 |
| 04:30.01 | JeffM2501 | then geting the colection is just geting eq2 for 10$ more then you have to |
| 04:30.09 | Aribeth | i no |
| 04:30.51 | Aribeth | sometime in the future i prolly will try star wars galaxies |
| 04:31.04 | JeffM2501 | your a brave brave girl |
| 04:31.09 | JeffM2501 | man does it suck |
| 04:31.18 | Aribeth | really? |
| 04:31.20 | JeffM2501 | it's now a realy buggy FPS |
| 04:31.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah played it for like 3 monhts |
| 04:31.37 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 04:31.42 | JeffM2501 | spent 109$ on a joystick for it |
| 04:31.51 | JeffM2501 | to fly in space ( the only good part of the game ) |
| 04:31.56 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 04:32.15 | JeffM2501 | there is a REASON they bundle all those together with the GOOD game ;) |
| 04:32.27 | Aribeth | i guess so :( |
| 04:32.55 | JeffM2501 | tho if you wanted to try it you can just get a station pass at any time |
| 04:32.59 | JeffM2501 | and download there games |
| 04:33.07 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:33.10 | JeffM2501 | once you are in, the station pass gets you acccess to them all |
| 04:33.16 | Aribeth | ya |
| 04:33.26 | Aribeth | prolly in the future i will |
| 04:34.01 | Aribeth | i really wish there were better computer stors out here |
| 04:34.14 | JeffM2501 | there is a free trial of DDO as well |
| 04:34.15 | Aribeth | walmart is it here |
| 04:34.21 | Aribeth | cool |
| 04:34.23 | JeffM2501 | sounds like where my parents live |
| 04:34.37 | Aribeth | i have to drive 25 miles to get to fry's |
| 04:34.45 | Aribeth | one way |
| 04:34.45 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 04:34.51 | Aribeth | ya |
| 04:34.54 | JeffM2501 | they have to drive 25 miles to get to a wallmart |
| 04:35.01 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 04:35.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 04:35.14 | JeffM2501 | dirt road action |
| 04:35.14 | Aribeth | i drive 10 miles to walmart |
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| 04:36.21 | Aribeth | i guess im luck im not 50 miles out in the boonies |
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| 05:29.57 | SportChick | I_Died_Once: hiya |
| 05:30.19 | I_Died_Once | Hey |
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| 09:03.09 | londonboi2k3 | Hi gues, trying to compile bzflag but I am getting an error. Client build has been requested, but GL is not fully available (missing gl.h) Have searched the forum but cant seem to get an answer |
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| 12:53.15 | imay | gh |
| 12:53.35 | brlcad | well put |
| 12:53.39 | imay | #j surabaya |
| 12:54.19 | brlcad | get a real irc client if you want to join other channels |
| 12:55.58 | imay | der |
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| 12:58.50 | *** kick/#bzflag [imay!n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad] by brlcad (brlcad) |
| 12:59.02 | brad2901 | hehe |
| 13:00.24 | Mr_Molez | uh ? |
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| 13:10.28 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: remove molez entry, been behaving/unbanned for some time now. |
| 13:11.44 | Mr_Molez | ~brlcad++ |
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| 13:25.38 | lkthomas | hey all |
| 13:25.44 | lkthomas | does anyone play bzflag on windowsxp ? |
| 13:25.51 | CBG | 'ello lkthomas |
| 13:26.03 | CBG | I'll bet someone here does. |
| 13:26.10 | lkthomas | I can not play it |
| 13:26.13 | lkthomas | it cause my XP hang |
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| 13:28.04 | Mr_Molez | i have xp |
| 13:28.34 | Mr_Molez | explain your problem a little more, also what version are you using ? |
| 13:28.40 | lkthomas | Mr_Molez: latest |
| 13:28.44 | lkthomas | I run it |
| 13:28.49 | lkthomas | and my screen turns blank |
| 13:28.54 | lkthomas | even I tab it |
| 13:28.58 | lkthomas | I can not see anything |
| 13:29.32 | Mr_Molez | lkthomas: has it ever worked ? |
| 13:29.46 | lkthomas | nope |
| 13:29.55 | Mr_Molez | lkthomas: not even a previous version ? |
| 13:29.58 | lkthomas | no |
| 13:30.03 | lkthomas | none of them are working on my box |
| 13:30.49 | Mr_Molez | lkthomas: what is your graphics card ? |
| 13:30.56 | lkthomas | 5200 |
| 13:31.03 | lkthomas | fx |
| 13:31.56 | Mr_Molez | lkthomas: go to my documents. and delete the my bzflag files folder |
| 13:31.59 | Mr_Molez | then try starting bzflag |
| 13:32.27 | lkthomas | trying |
| 13:32.28 | lkthomas | wait |
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| 13:35.23 | lkthomas | well |
| 13:35.25 | lkthomas | not working |
| 13:35.39 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 13:35.40 | lkthomas | it just flashing the screen |
| 13:35.47 | Mr_Molez | flashing ? |
| 13:36.00 | lkthomas | it shows join game, option...etc but I can not choose any of those |
| 13:36.04 | lkthomas | yeah |
| 13:36.05 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 13:36.12 | lkthomas | after I tab to mirc |
| 13:36.17 | Mr_Molez | go to nvidia.com and download the latest drivers for your graphics cardf |
| 13:36.18 | lkthomas | my screen turns blank |
| 13:37.44 | Mr_Molez | http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_84.21.html |
| 13:39.11 | lkthomas | wait |
| 13:39.31 | brlcad | oh wow.. drool: http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/hiperwall/ |
| 13:39.50 | brlcad | i can see bz on that baby already |
| 13:40.17 | lkthomas | brb, reboot |
| 13:40.45 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 13:41.09 | Mr_Molez | ive tried using multi monitors loads of times with bzflag, never works for me |
| 13:41.33 | brlcad | on a mac? |
| 13:41.34 | CBG | brlcad: o.O |
| 13:41.40 | Mr_Molez | eww mac no |
| 13:41.44 | brlcad | it's compile-time fixed to the primary |
| 13:41.48 | CBG | I'll dream of that tonight, I tell you. |
| 13:42.10 | CBG | Mr_Molez: "multi monitors" really doesnt come close to describing that :P |
| 13:43.30 | Mr_Molez | im not impressed.. if they put them closer together, got rid of the side covers of the screens, so they fit together better i will be amazed :) |
| 13:43.41 | CBG | Pff... |
| 13:44.26 | CBG | I think "Owning a set of screens as big as that" should go to the top of my list of "Stuff I want to do before I die"... |
| 13:45.05 | Mr_Molez | just buy a cinema :P |
| 13:45.33 | CBG | Mr_Molez: Hmm, that can go on the list too. :) |
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| 13:49.35 | lkthomas | hmm |
| 13:49.36 | lkthomas | thanks |
| 13:49.36 | lkthomas | working |
| 13:49.47 | lkthomas | but why my mouse can not click on my selection ? |
| 13:49.59 | Mr_Molez | that is not possible at the moment |
| 13:50.02 | lkthomas | also, do I have to input password ? |
| 13:50.05 | Mr_Molez | maybe in a future release of bzflag |
| 13:50.09 | lkthomas | k |
| 13:50.17 | Mr_Molez | you dont have to put in a password |
| 13:50.23 | lkthomas | just put callsign ? |
| 13:50.27 | Mr_Molez | but its best to register at http://my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 13:50.42 | lkthomas | ok, thanks :) |
| 13:50.57 | Mr_Molez | if you register at http://my.bzflag.org/bb the username and password you make there can be used for bzflag |
| 13:51.07 | Mr_Molez | but yes you can just use a callsign without a password |
| 13:51.22 | Mr_Molez | if it shows - next to your name when you join a server. That means the name belongs to somebody else |
| 13:52.42 | Mr_Molez | lkthomas: have fun ! :) |
| 13:55.48 | lkthomas | very hard to play :) |
| 13:57.39 | Mr_Molez | takes months to learn :P |
| 13:57.55 | lkthomas | LOL |
| 13:57.56 | lkthomas | months |
| 13:57.57 | lkthomas | :) |
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| 15:23.22 | mm0tob | anyone please help me get sound on this game? |
| 15:23.50 | mm0tob | running open suSe 10 |
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| 16:01.51 | blueherring | help |
| 16:02.06 | blueherring | exit |
| 16:02.12 | blueherring | n |
| 16:02.27 | PuMpErNiCkLe | o_O |
| 16:04.39 | blueherring | q |
| 16:04.51 | JeffM2501 | just close your window |
| 16:06.15 | blueherring | N |
| 16:06.19 | blueherring | NO |
| 16:06.23 | blueherring | no |
| 16:06.34 | blueherring | No |
| 16:06.35 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do man? |
| 16:06.40 | JeffM2501 | cus your about to be kicked |
| 16:07.10 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 16:07.21 | brad2901 | wow :) |
| 16:07.32 | Blue_Eyes | bha |
| 16:07.49 | Blue_Eyes | all stupid come there |
| 16:08.01 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:11.55 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 4 dirs): shot descriptors arn't engouh, we need weapon discriptors too. |
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| 16:23.05 | Blueherring | sorry for the odd behavior, my client was fubared |
| 16:24.14 | JeffM2501 | text client? |
| 16:24.35 | Blueherring | indeed, had never used that one before |
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| 16:27.51 | hacim | i just updated to the latest debian version and I am not getting a list of available servers |
| 16:28.24 | Blueherring | are global registrations still being accepted? |
| 16:28.51 | hacim | Blueherring: i dont know, how can I check? |
| 16:30.10 | hacim | hmm, I can't seem to get to my.bzflag.org, that might be the problem |
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| 16:32.08 | Thumper_ | can anyone kick apache? |
| 16:32.19 | Blueherring | unsure, I'm assuming I was supposed to respond to an email confirmation but I did not get one. a second callsign produced the same result but i didn't want to trying and making bogus users. |
| 16:33.30 | Blueherring | also don't want to be impatient |
| 16:34.38 | Blueherring | perhaps certain email domains are disallowed? |
| 16:35.08 | trepan | the server is currently borked. |
| 16:38.39 | uso | is there an option to make a public server not using global auth? |
| 16:39.23 | Blueherring | that would explain it. |
| 16:41.11 | JeffM2501 | uso, sure, the default |
| 16:41.12 | brlcad | of particular significance.. http://www.howtoforge.com/loadbalanced_mysql_cluster_debian |
| 16:42.45 | brlcad | hehe /. comment: ... and they just stare at you and ask incredulously, "You had to do WHAT with the seat?" |
| 16:44.21 | brlcad | though I'd still lean towards a db agnostic approach using rr dns |
| 16:45.18 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, we still getting nailed? |
| 16:47.34 | uso | JeffM2501: not sure what you mean, if i make a server public it used global auth by default |
| 16:47.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah but it dosn't require it |
| 16:48.01 | JeffM2501 | if auth fails people can still play |
| 16:48.15 | JeffM2501 | we allways try to auth if they have a token |
| 16:48.29 | uso | i mean not trying to use it to avoid the delay at the moment unitl global is running smooth again |
| 16:48.34 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 16:48.45 | JeffM2501 | well you could change your code |
| 16:48.51 | JeffM2501 | and have it skip that |
| 16:49.28 | uso | hmm, have to found it ... |
| 16:50.07 | uso | but not sure if i would break more then it would help ;) |
| 16:50.37 | Thumper_ | You could just blank out the password field on the connect page |
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| 16:52.07 | uso | at the client? i mean server side |
| 16:52.16 | Thumper_ | yes at the client. |
| 16:52.35 | JeffM2501 | the game is built around the asumption that the list server works |
| 16:54.49 | uso | yes, but sometimes assumtions are shown to be wrong ;) |
| 16:55.01 | JeffM2501 | may be |
| 16:55.07 | JeffM2501 | but can't change the past |
| 16:55.16 | uso | single point of failure architectures ... |
| 16:55.27 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 16:55.32 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't the best design |
| 16:55.43 | JeffM2501 | and it's author was warned of that |
| 16:55.47 | JeffM2501 | but did it this way anyway |
| 16:55.55 | uso | :) |
| 16:56.16 | JeffM2501 | but can't change the past |
| 16:56.31 | JeffM2501 | I'm sugesting that 2.2 use a totaly new list server with seperate auth |
| 16:56.34 | DTRemenak | uso: in 2.0.6, bzfs.cxx:3285, change "required" to "notRequired" and it should kill the wait |
| 16:56.36 | JeffM2501 | that can be spoammed |
| 16:56.54 | JeffM2501 | did I just combine spam and span? |
| 16:57.01 | JeffM2501 | wow |
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| 16:58.49 | FantasticFoo | 2.0.6, universal binary? |
| 16:59.04 | FantasticFoo | does anyone know of a place where i could find one? |
| 16:59.11 | JeffM2501 | build it yourself |
| 16:59.18 | JeffM2501 | we don' t make one |
| 16:59.19 | FantasticFoo | yeah. i already tried |
| 16:59.23 | FantasticFoo | i almost killed myself |
| 16:59.29 | JeffM2501 | we are gonna have to change some code in networking to make a uni |
| 16:59.50 | JeffM2501 | you did a uni? or an intel build? |
| 16:59.57 | JeffM2501 | they are not the same thing |
| 17:00.06 | FantasticFoo | i tried an intel build |
| 17:00.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah those will work with out mods |
| 17:00.23 | FantasticFoo | rawr |
| 17:00.27 | JeffM2501 | but to get the same code to run on both we have to change network pack order |
| 17:00.28 | FantasticFoo | i dunno what went wrong then |
| 17:00.32 | FantasticFoo | yeah |
| 17:00.34 | FantasticFoo | i meant intel |
| 17:00.35 | FantasticFoo | not universal |
| 17:00.49 | JeffM2501 | the main mac dev has a mac book on order |
| 17:00.58 | JeffM2501 | when he gets one he'll do more on geting it to work |
| 17:02.20 | uso | DTRemenak: have a 2.0.5 slightly before 2.0.6 here, do you mean the "required" inside the "if (!clOptions->publicizeServer)" check? |
| 17:05.37 | FantasticFoo | i'd have to compile intel sdl libs also, rite? |
| 17:06.29 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 17:06.32 | JeffM2501 | it all has to match |
| 17:06.38 | FantasticFoo | yep |
| 17:11.29 | uso | anon cvs is still out of sync, i.e. pre-2.0.6, right? |
| 17:11.57 | JeffM2501 | yes |
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| 17:21.53 | DTRemenak | uso: yeah |
| 17:22.08 | uso | thanks |
| 17:28.43 | DTRemenak | uso: be aware that + effectively does not mean anything on the server when you have that change in though |
| 17:29.08 | DTRemenak | it's rather simple to spoof without that check |
| 17:29.10 | JeffM2501 | he wants to get rid f the delay |
| 17:29.54 | DTRemenak | yeah, I know...that change should do that, I'm just warning about the consequences :) |
| 17:30.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm wonder if I have enough alternate fire modes |
| 17:32.54 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/common/ShotDescriptor.cxx: |
| 17:32.54 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: pack and unpack the weapon descriptors and the shot descriptors. |
| 17:32.54 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: add geno "kill all" flag for shots |
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| 17:45.07 | JeffM2501 | how long do you think would be a good time to charge a shot up to it's max damage? |
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| 17:52.03 | uso | DTRemenak: sure, you cannot trust anybody at this server than |
| 17:52.29 | uso | it's only thought for temporarily use until the DOS attack at the listserver is gone |
| 17:56.32 | JeffM2501 | hmmm should SB be able to zoom on a right click? |
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| 18:02.48 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: SB is usually used through objects |
| 18:03.04 | DTRemenak | zooming in would mean you'd just see a wall...how is that useful again? :) |
| 18:03.52 | JeffM2501 | it's not after I thought about it |
| 18:04.02 | JeffM2501 | but figured ask anywy |
| 18:04.08 | JeffM2501 | I could make it do a little 2x zoom |
| 18:04.10 | JeffM2501 | but mehh |
| 18:04.37 | JeffM2501 | sb goes a little faster then a normal shot, so was thinking it could also be a snipe |
| 18:05.10 | JeffM2501 | gave laser a good old 8x zoom |
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| 18:13.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 18:19.22 | JeffM2501 | and just to make DTRemenak feel better. |
| 18:19.36 | ElDiablo | bahh somone else owns it :) |
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| 18:31.38 | uso | ElJeffablo: could be helpful to play from time to time what you are programming on :) |
| 18:32.03 | ElJeffablo | yes if it was playable yet |
| 18:36.32 | ElJeffablo | it'll be playable when I get the shots and energy stuff being sent to the client and used |
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| 19:24.13 | ToughShooter | Hmm, who had the idea of that admin message sound in 2.0.7? It is less annoying than the old sound but it is not very loud (shot sounds are louder..) meaning it does not create very much attention I think :/ |
| 19:26.20 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:27.38 | Tupone | ToughShooter: lag on gu.de is due to the strange route we have from Italy to some location in Germany, route go to london and back to germany |
| 19:27.58 | _Manu_ | the shortest way.. lol |
| 19:28.35 | Tupone | viper one is 98 msec, gu.de is 200 |
| 19:28.39 | ToughShooter | Tupone: This is my route http://pastebin.com/677383 |
| 19:29.29 | ToughShooter | It always goes up 'n down at GU |
| 19:31.21 | Tupone | you have 30 msec there. I goes to 80 just to make my first km |
| 19:31.52 | Tupone | I suppose a network is broken near there |
| 19:33.29 | Tupone | but the good is that I got the same behaviour with 2.0.4, 2.0.6 and 2.07 |
| 19:34.57 | ToughShooter | Sometimes in 2.0.5 on dub when one joins it shows gameover all the time...I need to look whether I can reproduce that :/ |
| 19:35.14 | ToughShooter | Certainly has to do with server |
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| 19:42.55 | ToughShooter | ~bzfquery 84.176.50.201:5154 |
| 19:43.10 | ToughShooter | hmm, it does not show up in serverlist |
| 19:43.21 | Theme97 | I wonder... |
| 19:43.28 | Theme97 | ~bzfquery bzserve.no-ip.org:5154 |
| 19:43.37 | Mr_Molez | restart the server. when the server list keeps going down it takes it from the list |
| 19:43.54 | Mr_Molez | or join the server, i think that will get it back on aswell P |
| 19:47.45 | ToughShooter | Ah, global login is broken again :/ |
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| 19:55.53 | ToughShooter | Very informative output at the end from bzfs: http://pastebin.com/677454 which file and where tried to transfer to? |
| 19:57.10 | cosmos | listserv RIP? |
| 19:57.29 | Tupone | ToughShooter: IIRC, you get a lot more info with --enable-debug |
| 19:59.12 | ToughShooter | Tupone: I did ./configure --enable-debug! |
| 19:59.18 | L4m3r | is m.b.o still being DDoS'd? |
| 19:59.54 | ToughShooter | The config just don't work but it worked before with older versions, I will try to use an older version now |
| 19:59.56 | Tupone | hmm, code was there, code should be there, maybe something to activate it? donno |
| 20:00.18 | ToughShooter | ah yes, more -ds perhaps |
| 20:01.16 | ToughShooter | Looks like it just can't talk to the list server for whatever reason |
| 20:01.21 | cosmos | yeah |
| 20:01.32 | cosmos | listserv is nto responding |
| 20:02.36 | cosmos | nor are the bzflag forums |
| 20:02.43 | blast007 | try now |
| 20:03.03 | cosmos | yeah listserv back |
| 20:03.40 | L4m3r | sweet. what happened? |
| 20:03.49 | blast007 | restarted apache |
| 20:04.01 | L4m3r | ah. |
| 20:04.46 | ToughShooter | Yeah, now the server works |
| 20:04.52 | ToughShooter | :/ |
| 20:05.19 | brlcad | my guess is that it's getting stuck after too many bzbb postings due to the emailings (since the emails lock up that httpd) |
| 20:05.27 | ToughShooter | Such things should never happen |
| 20:05.55 | ToughShooter | The forums worked, I browsed them |
| 20:05.56 | brlcad | yeah, it's all hinging on email still not working right, php bug i'm trying to work through with their devs |
| 20:06.22 | ToughShooter | Very slow, though |
| 20:06.38 | L4m3r | PHP mail has always been a pain for me |
| 20:06.44 | brlcad | it slowly throttles down to one httpd responding, which isn't nearly enough to keep up |
| 20:07.14 | brlcad | so it seems like it's down, when in all practicality, there's just a huge delay (longer than most clients will wait) |
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| 20:08.31 | ToughShooter | Why was it faster with the old server? One would think load would be pretty much the same after all servers got the domain upgrade |
| 20:09.28 | blast007 | the old server didn't have the email problem for one |
| 20:17.45 | brlcad | ToughShooter: it goes from being faster to being slower |
| 20:18.09 | brlcad | response is actually faster when all is normal, from what I've seen |
| 20:18.19 | brad2901 | yeah it is |
| 20:18.20 | brlcad | once a few e-mails lock things up, though.. it starts slowing down again |
| 20:18.42 | L4m3r | perhaps you should turn off registration until it's sorted out. |
| 20:18.55 | brad2901 | not just registration |
| 20:19.09 | L4m3r | what else? oh, the lost pw thing? |
| 20:19.12 | blast007 | PMs |
| 20:19.14 | brlcad | if this apache upgrade doesn't do the trick, there's one more thing to try, albeit somewhat drastic |
| 20:19.22 | L4m3r | :\ |
| 20:19.51 | brlcad | it all started with a simultaneous apache2+php5 upgrade some time ago |
| 20:20.21 | brlcad | the emailer has been taken out of the picture, no longer even using sendmail |
| 20:20.30 | brlcad | php has been upgraded and downgraded |
| 20:20.39 | brlcad | albeit not all the way down to 4 |
| 20:20.47 | cosmos | it's the open source shuffle :) |
| 20:21.07 | brlcad | apache2 has been upgraded to the latest 2.0 |
| 20:21.13 | brlcad | now trying the latest 2.2 |
| 20:21.25 | brlcad | if that doesn't work, can drop it down to 1.x |
| 20:21.44 | brlcad | though i'd likely try php4 before that |
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| 20:46.39 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:55.46 | brlcad | googlebot sure does keep the server busy -- two or three times a day, full scan |
| 21:01.04 | A_Meteorite | brlcad: robots.txt would be good... |
| 21:02.17 | L4m3r | too bad phpBB doesn't have that daily archiving thing, saves a lot of server load from the robots |
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| 21:49.23 | blast007 | Pikhq: you'll get better :) |
| 21:49.40 | Pikhq | I'm sure I will. Very, very slowly. |
| 21:49.56 | Pikhq | Until then, I'll be hanging out in the -20's. |
| 22:05.05 | Theme97 | Ah, the good old -20 days. |
| 22:05.41 | L4m3r | 2.0.6 spawn policy sure takes you back, doesn't it? :P |
| 22:06.00 | Theme97 | ? |
| 22:06.11 | L4m3r | keep spawning at the end of someone's barrel |
| 22:06.41 | Theme97 | Oh! |
| 22:08.45 | blast007 | L4m3r: or spawning inside an enemy while your teammate is shooting at them |
| 22:09.13 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:09.59 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:13.47 | Theme97 | ... or... spawning in front of a bullet/in a shockwave/next to a SR? |
| 22:14.04 | L4m3r | yup. |
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| 22:44.39 | Alex135 | have the denyal of service attacks stoped yet? |
| 22:45.18 | brlcad | it was only that one night |
| 22:45.39 | Alex135 | hmmm... JeffM said they have ben happenen all week on and off |
| 22:46.49 | ElJeffablo | I was just goin on the last info I heard :) |
| 22:46.57 | brlcad | service has been interrupted on and off all week |
| 22:46.59 | ElJeffablo | brlcad, it has been slow as hell and on/off after that |
| 22:47.01 | ElJeffablo | ahh |
| 22:47.02 | brlcad | for various reasons |
| 22:47.13 | ElJeffablo | you going to florida to see it? |
| 22:47.16 | ElJeffablo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.32 | brlcad | yeah, as people post and the emails requests queue up, they lock out an httpd |
| 22:47.44 | brlcad | which makes the other available httpds use more cpu, slows them down |
| 22:47.51 | ElJeffablo | ahh |
| 22:47.54 | brlcad | until there is only a trickle getting through |
| 22:48.01 | brlcad | i.e. still hinging on the whole email problem |
| 22:48.02 | ElJeffablo | so when the mail thing gets fixed it should help |
| 22:48.11 | ElJeffablo | wonder if we can stub out the mail |
| 22:48.13 | brlcad | which I'm just about to have another major test under way (apache upgrade) |
| 22:48.21 | brlcad | we can, menotume was suggesting the same |
| 22:48.33 | ElJeffablo | that jacks new activations |
| 22:48.37 | ElJeffablo | but if it makes the others faster |
| 22:48.45 | brlcad | for just a quick no-fuss solution, it's just resetting more frequently |
| 22:48.48 | ElJeffablo | we can turn off new accounts, or just tell em to find me :) |
| 22:49.05 | brlcad | i'll have apache tested tonight before I go |
| 22:49.22 | menotume | go? |
| 22:49.26 | brlcad | i'll not be away while i'm down there either, net access and all |
| 22:49.30 | menotume | you're not allowed to GO anywhere |
| 22:49.33 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:49.53 | brlcad | it's not coincidence .. for work, couple meetings :) |
| 22:49.59 | Alex135 | well... thx for the info... :-) |
| 22:50.05 | brlcad | just happen to be staying on the beach ;) |
| 22:50.11 | ElJeffablo | nice |
| 22:50.31 | ElJeffablo | but will you be where near the server is? and can you put more ram in it? ;) |
| 22:50.58 | ElJeffablo | ugg 314$ to replace my phone :( |
| 22:52.19 | ElJeffablo | well it was a lot easyer to blame it all on "hackers" then "mail's busted" :) |
| 22:57.13 | brlcad | ooh, i will be sorta close to the server |
| 22:57.29 | brlcad | still a couple hundred miles away, but less than the many hundred now |
| 22:57.36 | ElJeffablo | heh |
| 22:58.52 | ElJeffablo | think I need anymore "alternate fire" modes then Charge, Zoom, lockon, and fastFire |
| 23:09.49 | blast007 | spread fire :) |
| 23:10.14 | ElJeffablo | the fast fire lets you put in an aditional accuracy modifyer |
| 23:10.24 | ElJeffablo | so you could make it fire the same speed with a wider error |
| 23:10.50 | ElJeffablo | or a REALY low recycle speed and a wide modifyer |
| 23:11.00 | ElJeffablo | that's what I did to MG |
| 23:11.10 | ElJeffablo | normal MG has a little error in the shot |
| 23:11.20 | ElJeffablo | right click it it fires faster and less accurate |
| 23:11.27 | blast007 | this is sounding really cool |
| 23:11.28 | ElJeffablo | so biger spread |
| 23:11.45 | ElJeffablo | laser does a 8x zoom on right click |
| 23:11.48 | ElJeffablo | GM does a lock |
| 23:12.08 | ElJeffablo | normal shots do a charge up ( longer you hold it, the biger the shot gets ) |
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| 23:26.16 | UnknownPooperSco | Hey. |
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| 23:27.15 | UnknownPooperSco | I don't appreciate that IRC hands out our hostnames... |
| 23:29.47 | CBG | UnknownPooperSco: well, that is life. |
| 23:29.54 | CBG | We have yours, but you have all of ours. |
| 23:30.00 | brad2901 | not mine! |
| 23:30.07 | brad2901 | :) |
| 23:30.17 | brad2901 | if you're that bothered you can get a cloak |
| 23:31.12 | L4m3r | unless you're an asshat, you have nothing to worry about anyhow ;) |
| 23:31.35 | UnknownPooperSco | I'm not, but Brad: Do you know of one for OS X? |
| 23:31.50 | brad2901 | it's nothing to do with what OS you're on |
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| 23:32.01 | brad2901 | type /stats p |
| 23:32.09 | brad2901 | and /msg someone on that list |
| 23:32.12 | brad2901 | ask for a cloak |
| 23:32.32 | UnknownPooperSco | Lol. Those are the admins. |
| 23:32.41 | brad2901 | ..right |
| 23:33.00 | UnknownPooperSco | Wouldn't they kick me if I asked for a cloak? |
| 23:33.12 | brad2901 | Why would they do that? :) |
| 23:33.27 | brad2901 | /join #freenode if you want... ask in there |
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| 23:37.37 | orchid | UnknownPooperSco: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks |
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| 23:39.16 | UnknownPooperSco | Thanks orchid. |
| 23:40.59 | ElJeffablo | what do you have to hide? |
| 23:41.14 | UnknownPooperSco | Nothing. But I just don't like that everyone can see my hostname. |
| 23:41.30 | ElJeffablo | then best to not use the internet ;) |
| 23:41.35 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:42.40 | ElJeffablo | IRC is very old |
| 23:42.50 | ElJeffablo | it was made before DOS atacks ;) |
| 23:43.08 | trepan | bzflag admins get to see your ip and hostname... (assuming that you didn't just pick this channel at random) |
| 23:43.31 | ElJeffablo | webservers see it all too |
| 23:43.36 | UnknownPooperSco | I didn't pick it at random, lol. |
| 23:44.28 | ElJeffablo | and so what if they can see that your on mediacom for your ISP |
| 23:44.31 | ElJeffablo | whopty do |
| 23:44.40 | UnknownPooperSco | Lol. |
| 23:45.08 | UnknownPooperSco | Couldn't hackers use it for something else? |
| 23:45.24 | ElJeffablo | if the "hackers" wanted to get to you, they would get to you anyway |
| 23:45.35 | ElJeffablo | so nothing more then just hiting the web |
| 23:47.29 | ElJeffablo | and if your firewalled then your fine |
| 23:47.43 | ElJeffablo | if your wide open then well you are askin for it |
| 23:47.58 | ElJeffablo | and IRC is the least of your wories |
| 23:50.42 | trepan | CBG: why? |
| 23:51.16 | CBG | it still says "list server is moving this friday" or something. |
| 23:51.16 | ElJeffablo | it still said the server was going to be moved |
| 23:51.21 | ElJeffablo | it dosn't anymore |
| 23:51.49 | ElJeffablo | it now says "bahh weep granaaah weep ninibong!" |
| 23:52.00 | trepan | CBG: yup, but better to leave the moving message there as an explanation for the follow-up |
| 23:52.07 | trepan | (which still needs to be listed, afaik) |
| 23:52.10 | ElJeffablo | it now explains the followup |
| 23:52.23 | CBG | well, better to change it to say "we recently moved" instead of "we are going to move" ... |
| 23:52.39 | ElJeffablo | dude I changed it |
| 23:52.53 | ElJeffablo | it says that we moved, and are still working out some "issues" |
| 23:55.45 | UnknownPooperSco | Can anyone change that message? |
| 23:55.58 | ElJeffablo | what message? |
| 23:56.05 | DTRemenak | no, nobody can ever change it |
| 23:56.08 | UnknownPooperSco | The one you just said you changed. |
| 23:56.13 | ElJeffablo | no just admins |
| 23:56.14 | DTRemenak | it's gonna always be that way |
| 23:56.21 | ElJeffablo | and dtr |
| 23:56.26 | UnknownPooperSco | Oh. Okay. |
| 23:56.31 | ElJeffablo | cuz he's the mad hacker |
| 23:56.37 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:56.40 | UnknownPooperSco | :-) |
| 23:58.43 | DTRemenak | Never. I will never turn to the dark side. You've lost... I am a Jedi, like my father before me. |
| 23:59.17 | ElJeffablo | does that mean I'm suposed to shock me and your dad throws me down a tube? |
| 23:59.24 | DTRemenak | something like that |
| 23:59.25 | ElJeffablo | shock you even |
| 23:59.31 | ElJeffablo | well I have meet your dad |
| 23:59.45 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03bryjen 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/common/ShotDescriptor.cxx: capitalization |
| 23:59.49 | ElJeffablo | he seemed prety cool |
| 23:59.52 | ElJeffablo | heh |
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| 23:59.57 | ElJeffablo | thanks |