irclog2html for #bzflag on 20060417

`00:18.10`	`brlcad`	`oh nice.. sourceforge ondemand`
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`01:32.23`	`Nidhoggr`	`just did my taxes.`
`01:32.26`	`Nidhoggr`	`whee.`
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`01:59.27`	`brlcad`	`Nidhoggr: =)`
`02:05.14`	`*** join/#bzflag Cruel_dog (i=user@modemcable125.224-202-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`02:05.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`Does someone here knows the commands for the ChatChannel plugin?`
`02:06.39`	`CBG`	`Do /channel and you'll get some instructions (if the plugin is loaded...).`
`02:06.45`	`Cruel_dog`	`error`
`02:06.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`it is loaded`
`02:07.00`	`Cruel_dog`	`and /channel sais erroe, invalid command`
`02:07.13`	`Cruel_dog`	`and, it is loaded`
`02:07.18`	`CBG`	`Did you compile yourself?`
`02:07.22`	`Cruel_dog`	`nope`
`02:07.37`	`CBG`	`Is it your server?`
`02:07.45`	`Cruel_dog`	`kinda`
`02:07.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`remote acess`
`02:07.59`	`Cruel_dog`	`i putted in the plugin place`
`02:08.01`	`Cruel_dog`	`and i loded`
`02:08.04`	`CBG`	`Did you put the plugin on the server?`
`02:08.06`	`Cruel_dog`	`sais loading sucessful`
`02:08.07`	`CBG`	`Ok.`
`02:08.20`	`CBG`	`You sure you have the right path, etc?`
`02:08.39`	`Cruel_dog`	`like i said, /loadplugin, sais that loaded sucessful`
`02:08.41`	`CBG`	`iirc, bzfs will say the plugin is loaded even if you tell it to load /hwbcrb/nebncrj/whatever/jibberish.so`
`02:08.53`	`brad2901`	`what do the logs tell you when you load it?`
`02:08.55`	`brad2901`	`it works for me`
`02:09.00`	`Cruel_dog`	`i will look`
`02:10.08`	`Cruel_dog`	`Plugin:plugins/ChatChannel.so found but expects an older API version (13), upgrade it`
`02:10.31`	`Cruel_dog`	`thats what logs tell`
`02:10.41`	`brad2901`	`then it didn't load properly`
`02:10.44`	`Cruel_dog`	`ah`
`02:10.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`how to fix that?`
`02:11.00`	`L4m3r`	`just a bzfsAPI.h from CVS`
`02:11.06`	`Cruel_dog`	`?`
`02:11.09`	`L4m3r`	`or from your current BZFS`
`02:11.09`	`Cruel_dog`	`wht is that?`
`02:11.14`	`L4m3r`	`and recompile the plugin`
`02:11.21`	`Cruel_dog`	`i dunno how to compile`
`02:11.25`	`L4m3r`	`it's a header file that the API uses`
`02:11.29`	`brad2901`	`ask gnurdux to do it`
`02:11.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`i cant find him`
`02:11.45`	`Cruel_dog`	`if i use version 1.1? should it be ok?`
`02:12.06`	`Cruel_dog`	`actually, I dunno how to ask that to Gnurdux`
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`02:15.08`	`Cruel_dog`	`aww`
`02:15.13`	`Cruel_dog`	`i don't know what to do`
`02:15.27`	`L4m3r`	`ok, well, let's start with the basics`
`02:15.36`	`L4m3r`	`Do you have a linux box at your disposal?`
`02:15.40`	`Cruel_dog`	`nope`
`02:15.48`	`L4m3r`	`ok, you're screwed then :)`
`02:15.53`	`blast007`	`ask him "Can you build me the plugin based on the version of linux on the server?" and then wait for a response`
`02:15.53`	`Cruel_dog`	`:(`
`02:15.59`	`blast007`	`version of bzfs*`
`02:16.05`	`Cruel_dog`	`he wont understand`
`02:16.09`	`Cruel_dog`	`he wil lsay what plugin?`
`02:16.27`	brad2901`	`tell him what plugin? :P`
`02:16.29`	`blast007`	`Cruel_dog: um, then specify a URL to the code?`
`02:16.36`	`blast007`	`I mean, come on :)`
`02:16.37`	`Cruel_dog`	`i dunno`
`02:16.43`	`Cruel_dog`	`i dont know anything in programming`
`02:16.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`nnothing**`
`02:17.55`	`blast007`	`Cruel_dog: Gnurdux has made plugins, so I'm sure he can compile a pre-made one with no problem`
`02:18.51`	`Cruel_dog`	`sao, i ask him what exactly?`
`02:18.56`	`blast007`	`...`
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`02:19.04`	`Cruel_dog`	`sorry, im stupid`
`02:19.08`	`blast007`	`apparently`
`02:19.13`	`Cruel_dog`	`im yound`
`02:19.19`	`Cruel_dog`	`and i dont know anything in programs`
`02:19.24`	`blast007`	`you don't have to`
`02:19.32`	`blast007`	`you just have to know how to ask a question`
`02:19.43`	`blast007`	`which you apparently can, because you're asking us questions :)`
`02:19.50`	`blast007`	`tell him to build it`
`02:19.53`	`Cruel_dog`	`brb, gonna em@il`
`02:21.27`	`CBG`	`"Dear Gnurduz, please can you build me the chat channel plugin (<insert link here> based on the version of bzfs on the server?". Simple.`
`02:23.14`	`Cruel_dog`	`allready sent`
`02:23.20`	`Cruel_dog`	`and its no looking like thta`
`02:23.31`	`Cruel_dog`	`i did not put link, i dunno where to find it`
`02:23.52`	brad2901`	`you posted in the chat channel forum`
`02:23.57`	brad2901`	`surely you can find it again?`
`02:24.03`	`CBG`	`Where did you get the plugin in the first place? ;)`
`02:24.04`	brad2901`	`s/forum/topic/`
`02:24.10`	`Cruel_dog`	`its not source`
`02:24.13`	brad2901`	`it is`
`02:24.15`	`Cruel_dog`	`its allready in .so`
`02:24.21`	brad2901`	`I've looked, the source is there`
`02:24.25`	`Cruel_dog`	`hmmm`
`02:24.32`	`Cruel_dog`	`did not saw it`
`02:24.43`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:24.51`	brad2901`	`or maybe not!`
`02:24.58`	`Cruel_dog`	`?`
`02:25.00`	brad2901`	`since attachments aren't working`
`02:25.05`	`Cruel_dog`	`yea`
`02:25.06`	`blast007`	`yeah :)`
`02:25.09`	brad2901`	`sorry`
`02:25.16`	`blast007`	`let me see if I can find it`
`02:25.22`	`Cruel_dog`	`i got it in .so`
`02:25.28`	`Cruel_dog`	`but not in source file`
`02:25.31`	brad2901`	`should be on dmp's site, no?`
`02:25.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`dunno`
`02:25.48`	brad2901`	`yeah, it is`
`02:25.49`	brad2901`	`http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/projects/BZFlag/`
`02:26.14`	`Cruel_dog`	`actually`
`02:26.29`	`Cruel_dog`	`its in .tar.gz compression, and my WINRAR can open that`
`02:26.33`	`Cruel_dog`	`so i took the .so`
`02:26.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`no source`
`02:26.41`	`Cruel_dog`	`its only .so`
`02:26.53`	`blast007`	`um, winrar can open .tar.gz`
`02:26.58`	`Cruel_dog`	`yep`
`02:27.02`	`CBG`	`the .tar.gz is the source.`
`02:27.07`	`blast007`	`it can even open .iso..`
`02:27.07`	`Cruel_dog`	`no`
`02:27.11`	`Cruel_dog`	`i opened it`
`02:27.25`	`QuantumBeep`	`WinRAR opens those.`
`02:27.27`	`Cruel_dog`	`and there is just one file`
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`02:27.34`	`Cruel_dog`	`in the .tar.gz`
`02:27.39`	`blast007`	`which one?`
`02:27.40`	`Cruel_dog`	`nthere is only 1 file`
`02:27.45`	`blast007`	`the linuxbin? :P`
`02:27.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`ChatChannel.so`
`02:27.57`	`blast007`	`cuz that would be "linux binary", as in, not the source`
`02:28.11`	`blast007`	`oh look, I found source code`
`02:28.17`	`Cruel_dog`	`where?`
`02:28.21`	`blast007`	`on that page`
`02:28.25`	`Cruel_dog`	`what page?`
`02:28.29`	`blast007`	`...`
`02:28.33`	`blast007`	`well, I'm done`
`02:28.43`	`Cruel_dog`	`http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/projects/BZFlag/ ?`
`02:28.50`	`CBG`	`oh, my, gawd`
`02:28.50`	`blast007`	`ding ding ding!`
`02:28.56`	`Cruel_dog`	`where`
`02:29.01`	`Cruel_dog`	`it doesnt tell source file`
`02:29.09`	`CBG`	`ON THE PAGE YOU JUST LINKED TO`
`02:29.13`	`blast007`	`I'll give you a hint: it's one of the files`
`02:29.17`	`Cruel_dog`	`yes`
`02:29.21`	`Cruel_dog`	`but which?`
`02:29.24`	`Cruel_dog`	`it dopnt tell !`
`02:29.34`	`blast007`	`I told you the one it isn't`
`02:29.40`	`A_Meteorite`	`another hint: http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/projects/BZFlag/ChatChannel_1_2.tar.gz`
`02:29.46`	`brad2901_`	`-> http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/projects/BZFlag/ChatChannel_1_2.tar.gz <-`
`02:29.49`	`Cruel_dog`	`that is the .so`
`02:29.49`	`Aribeth`	`oh man`
`02:29.53`	`Cruel_dog`	`its the one i opened`
`02:30.08`	`blast007`	`no, you didn't`
`02:30.15`	`blast007`	`you downloaded linuxbin`
`02:30.15`	`Cruel_dog`	`ok, i will, and tel lyou`
`02:30.19`	`blast007`	`which was the linux binary`
`02:30.29`	`blast007`	`I have the source one opened right now`
`02:30.34`	`Cruel_dog`	`ah`
`02:30.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`sorry all`
`02:30.37`	`A_Meteorite`	`Just download it.`
`02:30.39`	`A_Meteorite`	`It is the source.`
`02:30.43`	`Cruel_dog`	`done`
`02:30.44`	`blast007`	`sigh...`
`02:30.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`and i give to gnu?`
`02:30.55`	`blast007`	`no, you put it under a rock`
`02:30.59`	`CBG`	`No, just give him the link.`
`02:31.00`	`blast007`	`and water it`
`02:31.01`	`Aribeth`	`lol`
`02:31.05`	`blast007`	`and watch it grow into a plugin`
`02:31.09`	`A_Meteorite`	`blast007: rofl`
`02:31.13`	`Cruel_dog`	`ok, and a program will bloom? LOL`
`02:31.17`	`Aribeth`	`dont forget the fertalizer`
`02:31.20`	`CBG`	`Unless he will have the same trouble as you....`
`02:31.23`	`A_Meteorite`	`or the dirt`
`02:31.28`	`blast007`	`then you dig it up, place it in the CD-ROM, and do the rain dance while closing the tray`
`02:31.30`	`Cruel_dog`	`nok man, im not that stupid!`
`02:31.33`	`Aribeth`	`hehe`
`02:32.15`	`Aribeth`	`man tar is your friend`
`02:32.21`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`02:32.21`	`Cruel_dog`	`done`
`02:32.44`	`CBG`	`common sense and intelligence are _my_ friends.`
`02:33.10`	`blast007`	`but common sense isn't`
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`02:33.22`	`Cruel_dog`	`v`
`02:33.30`	`CBG`	`"v"?`
`02:33.31`	`blast007`	`t`
`02:33.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`sorry`
`02:33.42`	`Cruel_dog`	`accidently pressed v`
`02:33.48`	`blast007`	`and Enter`
`02:34.24`	`*** join/#bzflag QuickTim (n=QuickTim@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:34.34`	`Cruel_dog`	`sent`
`02:34.43`	`*** join/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:35.01`	`QuantumBeep`	`Cruel Dog, go take a cold shower and come back...`
`02:35.51`	`Cruel_dog`	`why?`
`02:36.03`	`*** part/#bzflag QuickTim (n=QuickTim@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:36.15`	`*** part/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:36.29`	`Cruel_dog`	`the thing is, i have to go to bed soon, its 10:38 PM here`
`02:36.43`	`*** join/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:36.44`	`Cruel_dog`	`well, thanks floks for all the help you gaved me`
`02:36.50`	`CBG`	`Oh... wow.`
`02:36.57`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`02:37.02`	`CBG`	`It's 3:37 here.`
`02:37.14`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:37.22`	`Cruel_dog`	`I am only 15 years old...`
`02:37.31`	`L4m3r`	`only?`
`02:37.31`	`CBG`	`I'll go to bed soon, just so I can get up in time for lunch/breakfast.`
`02:37.34`	`Cruel_dog`	`yea`
`02:37.45`	`CBG`	`Cruel_dog: I'm 17.`
`02:37.49`	`Cruel_dog`	`ok`
`02:37.52`	`Aribeth`	`sleep?...whats that?`
`02:37.56`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:37.57`	`Quickie`	`im 14 and i planted the source under a rock last year, and now its a beautiful flower`
`02:37.58`	`L4m3r`	`Cruel dog: never use age as an excuse`
`02:38.04`	`CBG`	`Live a litterl`
`02:38.06`	`Cruel_dog`	`ROFKL`
`02:38.10`	`Cruel_dog`	`ROFL**`
`02:38.17`	`CBG`	`little*. Stay up till midnight.`
`02:38.21`	`A_Meteorite`	`I'm younger than some people, yet more mature... go figure.`
`02:38.26`	`A_Meteorite`	`:\`
`02:38.32`	`Cruel_dog`	`that's true a meteorite`
`02:38.34`	`CBG`	`You poor thing.`
`02:38.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`how old are you?`
`02:38.38`	`L4m3r`	`If you're twelve, you'll be flamed for it, if you're older, stop complaining.`
`02:38.47`	`Quickie`	`well technically im 4 weeks old, as im a Bot of QuickTims`
`02:38.53`	`A_Meteorite`	`Heh, I'm not complaining. ;)`
`02:39.02`	`Cruel_dog`	`ya shure`
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`02:39.06`	`A_Meteorite`	`Although, I want to reverse age.`
`02:39.08`	`Cruel_dog`	`its not a bot`
`02:39.14`	`A_Meteorite`	`'course he is`
`02:39.15`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:39.15`	`*** join/#bzflag QuickTim (n=QuickTim@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:39.18`	`QuickTim`	`yeah it is`
`02:39.19`	`Cruel_dog`	`yes?`
`02:39.22`	`QuickTim`	`watch`
`02:39.24`	`Cruel_dog`	`he looks as human`
`02:39.26`	`QuickTim`	`~msg #bzflag test`
`02:39.27`	`Quickie`	`test`
`02:39.32`	`CBG`	`You can see him?`
`02:39.32`	`Cruel_dog`	`ow`
`02:39.34`	`Aribeth`	`well, im older than all of you put together`
`02:39.41`	`QuickTim`	`yikes`
`02:39.42`	`A_Meteorite`	`Aribeth: O_o`
`02:39.46`	`CBG`	`Aribeth: muahahaha.`
`02:39.48`	`QuickTim`	`your older than my mom`
`02:39.53`	`Cruel_dog`	`~`
`02:40.36`	`Aribeth`	`yes i am QuickTim`
`02:40.46`	`CBG`	`No, you're Aribeth.`
`02:40.47`	`QuickTim`	`eek`
`02:40.56`	`Aribeth`	`hehe`
`02:41.01`	`Aribeth`	`im 52`
`02:41.03`	`CBG`	`QuickTim is QuickTim`
`02:41.32`	`Quickie`	`yep he is`
`02:41.44`	`Cruel_dog`	`Quicktime isnt amazing`
`02:41.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`LOL`
`02:41.50`	`L4m3r`	`I'm in a weird spot. I'm older than all the kids who play or use BZBB, but I'm the youngest in the crowd with any of the "leader people", such as most in this room :P`
`02:41.52`	`Cruel_dog`	`the bot doens defend`
`02:42.13`	`QuickTim`	`QuickTime isnt amazing i agree`
`02:42.16`	`QuickTim`	`its a horrible program`
`02:42.42`	`Cruel_dog`	`quickie is human`
`02:42.48`	`A_Meteorite`	`no he isn't`
`02:42.55`	`QuickTim`	`my god`
`02:42.57`	`A_Meteorite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:42.59`	`QuickTim`	`~lart Cruel_dog`
`02:43.02`	`Cruel_dog`	`then, why dont he answer to any command? like you have no permission?`
`02:43.04`	`L4m3r`	`QT: And you're a byte short of "quicktime"... what does that mean? :P`
`02:43.22`	`QuickTim`	`lamer... its A-Ds fault`
`02:43.23`	`Aribeth`	`ouch`
`02:43.26`	`QuickTim`	`he wouldnt let me keep AppleGeek`
`02:43.33`	`L4m3r`	`lol`
`02:43.35`	`QuickTim`	`you dont have permissons curel`
`02:43.42`	`Cruel_dog`	`exactly`
`02:43.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`he should say error, you have not permission`
`02:43.52`	`Cruel_dog`	`like all bots`
`02:43.52`	`A_Meteorite`	`but he's still a bot`
`02:44.04`	`Cruel_dog`	`can i have a proof?`
`02:44.12`	`CBG`	`Cruel_dog: how can you say ALL bots d that?`
`02:44.20`	`Cruel_dog`	`what doesnt tell me that your bro is sitted next to you, and typing?`
`02:44.21`	`*** part/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
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`02:44.38`	`QuickTim`	`that i just forgot this`
`02:44.40`	`A_Meteorite`	`He couldn't type that fast.`
`02:44.40`	`Cruel_dog`	`ah ok, i give up, its a bot`
`02:44.44`	`*** join/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:44.46`	`QuickTim`	`i reloaded him`
`02:44.56`	`Quickie`	`I am a bot, you see?`
`02:44.57`	`QuickTim`	`but i forgot to put him to join here in config`
`02:45.00`	`QuickTim`	`so he left`
`02:45.20`	`CBG`	`Cruel_dog: do ~lart something`
`02:45.21`	`Cruel_dog`	`bye`
`02:45.28`	`A_Meteorite`	`~lart Cruel_dog`
`02:45.28`	`Cruel_dog`	`~lart`
`02:45.40`	`Cruel_dog`	`~lart CBG`
`02:45.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`ok, its a bot :)`
`02:46.00`	`QuickTim`	`oh`
`02:46.02`	`QuickTim`	`try to lart me`
`02:46.11`	`Cruel_dog`	`it wil lsay no, i know`
`02:46.15`	`QuickTim`	`no`
`02:46.17`	`Cruel_dog`	`~lart quicktim`
`02:46.17`	`QuickTim`	`just do it ;)`
`02:46.26`	`QuickTim`	`self defense`
`02:46.29`	`Cruel_dog`	`huh?`
`02:46.29`	`QuickTim`	`it wont lart me or itself`
`02:46.32`	`QuickTim`	`look`
`02:46.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`YACK`
`02:46.40`	`Cruel_dog`	`man he is cruel that bot!`
`02:47.01`	`Cruel_dog`	`~lart quickie`
`02:47.16`	`Cruel_dog`	`omg`
`02:47.25`	`Aribeth`	`lol`
`02:47.26`	`QuickTim`	`you should see the one with cbg in it`
`02:47.28`	`QuickTim`	`its so gross`
`02:47.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`i am gonna make nightmares...`
`02:47.41`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:47.56`	`Quickie`	`Hahaha!`
`02:47.58`	`QuickTim`	`if anyone has any ideas, let me know ill add them to quickie :) and give you mod perms (allows you to ~msg)`
`02:48.15`	`Cruel_dog`	`ni have an idea`
`02:48.40`	`QuickTim`	`this is technically the place for bzflag programmers, i think chatting goes in #bzchat`
`02:49.04`	`Quickie`	`/me duct-tapes cruel_dog to the floor and lets CBG drool on cruel_dog!`
`02:49.06`	`blast007`	`QuickTim: I have an idea...get it out of #bzflag`
`02:49.14`	`QuickTim`	`yeah thats prolly best`
`02:49.18`	`Cruel_dog`	`why dont you put that he takes a old rusted metal piece and chops the hands and collect the blood to make a blood fondue`
`02:49.24`	`A_Meteorite`	`ew`
`02:49.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:49.37`	`Quickie`	`thats just wrong`
`02:49.42`	`Cruel_dog`	`...`
`02:49.43`	`QuickTim`	`~part`
`02:49.44`	`ibot`	`/part`
`02:49.44`	`*** part/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:49.48`	`Aribeth`	`yukkkkkk`
`02:50.02`	`QuickTim`	`look you scared the poor thing away`
`02:50.04`	`Aribeth`	`and sick`
`02:50.08`	`Cruel_dog`	`i have another idea`
`02:50.16`	`Aribeth`	`too late`
`02:50.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`why dont you tell that takes a chainsaw, cut down arms, and put it in a snowman`
`02:50.59`	`A_Meteorite`	`um`
`02:51.02`	`QuickTim`	`thats not larting`
`02:51.02`	`A_Meteorite`	`that's beyond sick`
`02:51.04`	`A_Meteorite`	`that's twisted`
`02:51.09`	`Aribeth`	`indeed`
`02:51.11`	`QuickTim`	`thats for Saw 3`
`02:51.12`	`Cruel_dog`	`what does larting means?`
`02:51.18`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:51.28`	`CBG`	`loser atitude readjustment tool`
`02:51.32`	`QuickTim`	`just little mean things, not horribly gross, Saw things`
`02:51.37`	`Cruel_dog`	`oh`
`02:51.41`	`Cruel_dog`	`ok`
`02:51.54`	`CBG`	`things like:`
`02:51.55`	`QuickTim`	`~lart cruel_dog`
`02:51.56`	`CBG`	`~lart Cruel_dog`
`02:52.08`	`QuickTim`	`see`
`02:52.10`	`QuickTim`	`those arent gross`
`02:52.12`	`QuickTim`	`just funny`
`02:52.12`	`Cruel_dog`	`Slaps the victim with a telephone`
`02:52.35`	`bryjen`	`funny for the first minute.`
`02:52.37`	`Aribeth`	`~lart Cuel_dog for being too grose`
`02:52.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`lol`
`02:52.50`	`Cruel_dog`	`LOL`
`02:53.05`	`Cruel_dog`	`i have an idea`
`02:53.10`	`QuantumBeep`	`Guys, maybe we should take this to #planetmofo before someone important gets pissed`
`02:53.15`	`bryjen`	`just let it go`
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`02:53.35`	`Aribeth`	`after watching the movir hostage i dont need to hear really gross twisted ideas!`
`02:53.43`	`QuickTim`	`~lart Cruel_dog 9`
`02:53.44`	`Cruel_dog`	`i know`
`02:53.51`	`QuickTim`	`see? funny`
`02:53.53`	`QuickTim`	`not horrible`
`02:54.05`	`QuickTim`	`~lart Cruel_dog 10`
`02:54.16`	`QuickTim`	`i enabled the id system for this one second`
`02:54.18`	`QuickTim`	`to show you`
`02:54.20`	`QuickTim`	`the funny ones`
`02:54.38`	`Cruel_dog`	`Takes a dandelion, puts it on Cruel dog, and a groundhog comes, and attacks Cruel dog to have the dandelion`
`02:54.51`	`QuickTim`	`~lart cruel_dog 14`
`02:54.54`	`QuickTim`	`gr`
`02:55.10`	`QuickTim`	`"bores $target to death with a collectors edition Simpsons Season, because nobody likes those" was what i wanted`
`02:55.14`	`Cruel_dog`	`Takes a dandelion, puts it on Cruel dog, and a groundhog comes, and attacks Cruel dog to have the dandelion`
`02:55.15`	`brlcad`	`take it elsewhere`
`02:55.19`	`*** part/#bzflag Quickie (n=IQ@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:55.21`	`Aribeth`	`please`
`02:55.26`	`Nidhoggr`	`hi brlcad`
`02:55.36`	`Cruel_dog`	`you can get him on my channel if you want`
`02:55.41`	`Cruel_dog`	`#Crueldog`
`02:55.42`	`Aribeth`	`hello Nidhogge`
`02:55.45`	`Aribeth`	`hello Nidhoggr`
`02:55.47`	`Cruel_dog`	`i will bring my bot too`
`02:55.48`	`Nidhoggr`	`hi Aribeth`
`02:56.31`	`Cruel_dog`	`you can bring bots on my channel #Cruel dog if you want to "Play" with them`
`02:56.35`	`brlcad`	`howdy Nidhoggr`
`02:56.41`	`bryjen`	`apparently my + isn't as scary as brlcad's @`
`02:56.50`	`brlcad`	`Cruel_dog: cut the noise now`
`02:56.53`	`menotume`	`I'm scared`
`02:56.57`	`brlcad`	`it's offtopic and not interesting`
`02:57.03`	`menotume`	`hi Nidhoggr`
`02:57.08`	`Nidhoggr`	`ni menotume`
`02:57.11`	`Nidhoggr`	`err hi`
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`02:57.13`	`Aribeth`	`its sick and twisted`
`02:57.14`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`02:57.19`	`*** part/#bzflag QuickTim (n=QuickTim@cpe-66-67-12-0.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`02:57.30`	`L4m3r`	`the mofo channel has two bots that fight each other...`
`02:57.34`	`L4m3r`	`>_<`
`02:57.39`	`blast007`	`..`
`02:57.50`	`L4m3r`	`Quickie is the crappier of the two ;)`
`03:04.37`	`QuantumBeep`	`Aribeth, you mean Hostel?`
`03:04.51`	`Aribeth`	`me?`
`03:04.59`	`Cruel_dog`	`hey`
`03:05.08`	`Cruel_dog`	`if i keep a bot connected all night on a bz server`
`03:05.15`	`Cruel_dog`	`will it use alot of bandwidth?`
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`03:05.41`	`Aribeth`	`im not mean nor hostel`
`03:05.52`	`*** part/#bzflag Cruel_dog (i=user@modemcable125.224-202-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`03:05.59`	`Aribeth`	`whew!`
`03:06.45`	`QuantumBeep`	`Yes!`
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`03:12.37`	`Aribeth`	`the duce you say`
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`03:14.19`	`noyb`	`he's not that cute...`
`03:14.37`	`blast007`	`hehe, QuantumBeep got burned :)`
`03:15.12`	`Aribeth`	`i didnt do it to make him cute`
`03:15.18`	`QuantumBeep`	`Argh.`
`03:15.23`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`03:16.03`	`Aribeth`	`lol`
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`03:22.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`brlcad: ping? or are you in bed?`
`03:22.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`menotume: ping, just in case brlcad is in bed :)`
`03:23.24`	`menotume`	`pong`
`03:23.30`	`menotume`	`what did you break now ?`
`03:23.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`nothing`
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`03:23.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`but i'm curious`
`03:23.49`	`menotume`	`uh oh`
`03:24.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`the list server and the forums are moving to .bz`
`03:24.16`	`menotume`	`maybe`
`03:24.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`if everything is successful, then they will be. or so I hear`
`03:24.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`is the league site moving over also?`
`03:24.43`	`menotume`	`huh ?`
`03:24.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`it uses the http://my.bzflag.org`
`03:24.53`	`menotume`	`if others move, the league site will too`
`03:25.03`	`menotume`	`everything will have the old addys`
`03:25.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7679&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0`
`03:25.23`	`menotume`	`you won't see anything, except a short sdowntime for DNS to propogate`
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`03:25.58`	`brlcad`	`everything has pretty much already been migrated, just waiting on some server upgrades I have going and for Tim to update DNS`
`03:26.03`	`menotume`	`don't beleive anything you see on the interweb :P`
`03:26.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`I don't, thats why I"m asking you guys`
`03:26.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`but what strain of logic brings me to believe you guys...`
`03:26.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`yea... I"m in a pickle`
`03:26.31`	`brlcad`	`shouldn't any downtime, both servers will be online`
`03:26.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`I"m not worried about downtime`
`03:26.45`	`menotume`	`brl, there has to be`
`03:26.50`	`menotume`	`for leaguer anyway`
`03:27.00`	`blast007`	`the current forum will be disabled after we update DNS, right?`
`03:27.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`i'm wondering if I"m going to have to lookf for the league at some other address`
`03:27.03`	`brlcad`	`both servers are still on-line`
`03:27.05`	`menotume`	`(data sync)`
`03:27.07`	`menotume`	`forums too`
`03:27.17`	`menotume`	`TheRedBaron: no`
`03:27.20`	`menotume`	`same addy`
`03:27.21`	`brlcad`	`you just won't be able to post if you're stuck on the old`
`03:27.29`	`brlcad`	`until dns updates`
`03:27.40`	`brlcad`	`but i wouldn't call that downtime`
`03:27.42`	`blast007`	`I consider that "downtime" :)`
`03:27.46`	`menotume`	`we can post an IP for the impatient ones :)`
`03:27.46`	`blast007`	`since they can't use it`
`03:27.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`menotume: ok, thats good enough for me ;)`
`03:27.54`	`brlcad`	`they can use it`
`03:27.59`	`brlcad`	`if they can't it'll be something we impose`
`03:28.02`	`menotume`	`or, how about a simple redirect to the IP`
`03:28.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`my curiosity has been satisfied, thank you very very much :)`
`03:28.17`	`menotume`	`okies`
`03:28.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`the Karma's on me tonight boys, have a round`
`03:28.32`	`brlcad`	`we may still not migrate as well, options being considered`
`03:28.33`	`menotume`	`nooooo !`
`03:28.40`	`menotume`	`no karma`
`03:29.14`	`menotume`	`i'll probably just do a redirect on the league page`
`03:29.49`	`Aribeth`	`no karma??`
`03:30.12`	`brlcad`	`yeah, could avoid having the unusable state by making the config point to .bz or the ip directly`
`03:30.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`~menotume++`
`03:30.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`~aribeth++`
`03:30.40`	`Aribeth`	`~karma menotume`
`03:30.40`	`ibot`	`menotume has karma of 205`
`03:34.48`	`menotume`	`brlcad: yes, config to the ip. then, after a couple of days, use the domain name`
`03:38.17`	`orange`	`menotume: using a dedicated IP for this?`
`03:38.21`	`orange`	`or name-based virtual hosting?`
`03:40.15`	`menotume`	`yep`
`03:40.28`	`menotume`	`i'm pretty sure it's static :P`
`03:41.46`	`orange`	`not static`
`03:42.06`	`orange`	`I mean, is the IP shared with other web pages?`
`03:42.45`	`orange`	`if so, then generally speaking, the IP won't work to pull up web pages, except in very specific situations`
`03:43.13`	`eXtreme`	`~dns bzflag.bz`
`03:43.48`	`eXtreme`	`seems orange is right.. using the IP doesn't work`
`03:44.07`	`blast007`	`~dns my.bzflag.bz`
`03:44.13`	`blast007`	`yeah..`
`03:44.21`	`blast007`	`it's vhosts`
`03:44.47`	`orange`	`vhosts are OK unless they're name-based, which are also fine unless you want to use the IP :-)`
`03:45.38`	`blast007`	`they're name based, since they share the same IP`
`03:45.46`	`eXtreme`	`you can always use the .bz subdomains so it isn't too bad`
`03:45.49`	`blast007`	`yup`
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`05:10.53`	`mozul`	`hi`
`05:11.18`	`menotume`	`hi`
`05:11.37`	`menotume`	`hmm, who is mozul :P`
`05:12.09`	`mozul`	`mozul is me`
`05:12.54`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`05:13.07`	`Nidhoggr`	`hi mozul`
`05:13.16`	`mozul`	`hi nid`
`05:13.49`	`mozul`	`I'm getting ready to go to AK tomorrow`
`05:14.04`	`Nidhoggr`	`ooooh fun.`
`05:15.23`	`mozul`	`highs of 35`
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`05:18.42`	`im_fine_u`	`MESSAGE`
`05:19.18`	`L4m3r`	`didn't he almost get banned last time he was in here?`
`05:19.25`	`orange`	`yes`
`05:19.48`	`im_fine_u`	`MESSAGE`
`05:20.21`	`BenUrban`	`im_fine_u: problem?`
`05:20.32`	`im_fine_u`	`MEASSAGE`
`05:20.38`	`L4m3r`	`parrot brain getting to him`
`05:21.22`	`im_fine_u`	`MESSAHEGE`
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`05:22.14`	`JeffM2501`	`wtf?`
`05:22.26`	`L4m3r`	`lol`
`05:22.36`	`JeffM2501`	`im_fine_u, please don't test things in channel`
`05:23.12`	`im_fine_u`	`MESSAGE`
`05:23.34`	`*** kick/#bzflag [im_fine_u!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501)`
`05:23.53`	`L4m3r`	`hm... newbie or just stupid? some combination thereof?`
`05:24.06`	`menotume`	`newbie`
`05:24.15`	`JeffM2501`	`doubtfull`
`05:24.25`	`menotume`	`i talked to him earlier today on IM, seemed fine`
`05:24.35`	`L4m3r`	`he's less of an asshat ingame and on bzbb...`
`05:24.42`	`menotume`	`yes`
`05:24.55`	`L4m3r`	`altho I haven't met him in combat lately`
`05:25.24`	`Nidhoggr`	`well, I am not around until tomorrow night, so hopefully the stuff can get transitioned by then.`
`05:25.25`	`menotume`	`he played a GU match today with his new team`
`05:25.37`	`JeffM2501`	`Nidhoggr, we just need tim`
`05:25.40`	`Nidhoggr`	`nod`
`05:25.56`	`JeffM2501`	`if he's not here, I'll just back up the databases and we'll move, and just be down till Tim gets back`
`05:25.56`	`menotume`	`and, he seemed nice, even his team got beat around 20-0 :)`
`05:26.02`	`L4m3r`	`lol`
`05:26.05`	`Nidhoggr`	`nod`
`05:26.20`	`Nidhoggr`	`okie... I gotta run off. take care. thanks for the help.`
`05:26.27`	`menotume`	`cu Nidhoggr`
`05:26.27`	`L4m3r`	`cya nihoggr`
`05:26.49`	`menotume`	`league will be easy enough to redirect`
`05:27.02`	`menotume`	`ahh, forums too, with an apache config`
`05:27.08`	`JeffM2501`	`not with the old server offline :)9`
`05:27.18`	`menotume`	`oh ya :P`
`05:27.20`	`*** part/#bzflag mozul (n=Kirk@69-167-25-130.stmnca.adelphia.net)`
`05:27.24`	`L4m3r`	`can't you just move the domains too?`
`05:27.30`	`JeffM2501`	`we can`
`05:27.34`	`JeffM2501`	`but we need TIM for that`
`05:27.37`	`menotume`	`Tim can`
`05:27.38`	`L4m3r`	`hehehe`
`05:27.40`	`JeffM2501`	`he runs DNS`
`05:27.48`	`L4m3r`	`murphy's law at its finest.`
`05:27.48`	`JeffM2501`	`we've have moved by now if he'd show up`
`05:27.53`	`menotume`	`hmm, how about a phone call ?`
`05:28.13`	`JeffM2501`	`posting still hangs on the bb tho`
`05:28.23`	`JeffM2501`	`I don't know his number`
`05:28.25`	`JeffM2501`	`I sent him an e-mail`
`05:28.29`	`menotume`	`bet i can find it :)`
`05:28.34`	`JeffM2501`	`then call him`
`05:28.51`	`JeffM2501`	`he said he'd be around to do images.bzflag.org even before this problem`
`05:29.04`	`menotume`	`he's in tx, right ?`
`05:29.04`	`JeffM2501`	`so ether something came up, or he dosn't give a crap anymore`
`05:29.09`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`05:29.14`	`menotume`	`not found :(`
`05:29.39`	`JeffM2501`	`tho moving the fourms will not be realy feasable till we get that posting problem fixed`
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`05:29.43`	`IFU`	`Jeff`
`05:29.50`	`JeffM2501`	`IFU`
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`11:08.08`	`brlcad`	`orange/menotume: the default for 66.111.56.50 can be made the same, it simply points to the vhost bzflag.bz at the moment`
`11:08.31`	`_Manu_`	`hi brlcad`
`11:10.20`	`brlcad`	`mornin'`
`11:11.56`	`_Manu_`	`yes, too early in the morning to you ;)`
`11:21.13`	`brlcad`	`quite`
`11:23.33`	`_Manu_`	`continue wandering ;)`
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`11:43.56`	`menotume`	`yawn`
`11:47.15`	`gsnedders`	`awwww… sleepy menotume`
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`12:09.04`	`SportChick`	`~wake menotume`
`12:09.06`	`ibot`	`menotume: GOOD MORNING!!!`
`12:09.30`	`[dmp]`	`evil.. you wake others up too :)`
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`13:58.41`	`orange`	`brlcad: cool, that's the one case that makes it work :-)`
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`14:10.08`	`SportChick`	`fantazee!!!`
`14:13.29`	`brlcad`	`fantazee!!!`
`14:14.09`	`SportChick`	`brlcad!!`
`14:15.30`	`eXtreme`	`~dns webchat.bzflag.bz`
`14:17.32`	`menotume`	`~seen TimRiker`
`14:17.45`	`ibot`	`timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #openezx, 2d 13h 13m 1s ago, saying: 'k'.`
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`15:49.18`	`menotume`	`Tim !!!`
`15:49.24`	`menotume`	`Tim, we have a problem`
`15:49.32`	`menotume`	`TimRiker: don't go anywhere`
`15:49.50`	`menotume`	`the nidhoggr server is going down (tonight, i think)`
`15:49.59`	`menotume`	`we are migrating to bzflag.bz`
`15:50.05`	`menotume`	`and will need DNS changes`
`15:54.33`	`menotume`	`tap, tap, is this thing on ?`
`15:58.11`	`Thumper__`	`heh`
`15:58.17`	`CBG`	`menotume: you're ringing in my ears...`
`15:58.29`	`menotume`	`ok, good :)`
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`16:04.11`	`eXtreme`	`~poke me`
`16:04.12`	`ibot`	`ACTION grabs a syringe`
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`16:20.03`	`JeffM2501`	`yay Tim's here :)`
`16:27.06`	`JeffM2501`	`if anyone sees carnage tell him to get his sad butt in here`
`16:28.05`	`CBG`	`With pleasure.`
`16:29.40`	`JeffM2501`	`and anyone got his current IP`
`16:30.14`	`eXtreme`	`or I could look at my server logs.. 2 secs`
`16:30.23`	`Thumper_`	`JeffM2501: you want it pasted here?`
`16:30.31`	`JeffM2501`	`yes. yes I do`
`16:30.38`	`JeffM2501`	`he deseves no privacy`
`16:30.43`	`JeffM2501`	`sine he will not give others any`
`16:30.44`	`Thumper_`	`216.8.135.243 connection to lasermania on 2006-04-15T06:51:50Z`
`16:30.56`	`eXtreme`	`216.8.131.163`
`16:31.00`	`JeffM2501`	`thanks`
`16:31.04`	`JeffM2501`	`damn he's dynamic`
`16:31.27`	`Thumper_`	`yup`
`16:31.28`	`orange`	`yes`
`16:31.51`	`JeffM2501`	`one week was all he could go`
`16:31.56`	`JeffM2501`	`what a jerk`
`16:32.51`	`CBG`	`(just in case you didn't know) he was going by the name of "memorex C60" recently.`
`16:33.22`	`[dmp]`	`bzleague got 216.8.172.45 for carnage .. 14 hours old`
`16:33.22`	`JeffM2501`	`thanks`
`16:33.47`	`JeffM2501`	`just in case you all haven't figured it out, he's cheating again, and harassing players. He is no longer welcome on public services.. take action acordingly`
`16:34.04`	`Thumper_`	`ok`
`16:34.11`	`Birdie`	`well he didnt cheated..just admitting he did before on more places than he admitted till now`
`16:34.26`	`Birdie`	`(and officials to now) but his bad mouth was more than enough also this time`
`16:34.31`	`JeffM2501`	`he's harassing people`
`16:34.42`	`JeffM2501`	`so he's just playing withus all`
`16:34.44`	`JeffM2501`	`so he's done`
`16:34.46`	`JeffM2501`	`same for db`
`16:35.28`	`Thumper_`	`are you leaving his id so we can /idban it or are you killing his global account?`
`16:35.33`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`16:35.37`	`JeffM2501`	`it stays`
`16:35.40`	`Thumper_`	`bzid: 239`
`16:35.42`	`JeffM2501`	`but is baned and disabled`
`16:35.53`	`Thumper_`	`ok... so he can't use it so idban is kinda useless :)`
`16:36.11`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah he'll never be able to auth with that name`
`16:36.29`	`JeffM2501`	`like ID ban at the source :)`
`16:37.13`	`eXtreme`	`Set player (memorex C60 [4]) bzId to (11226)`
`16:37.19`	`JeffM2501`	`that's gone too`
`16:37.21`	`eXtreme`	`isn't that the bzid ?`
`16:37.22`	`eXtreme`	`ah`
`16:39.52`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: deathbarrel`
`16:39.54`	`JeffM2501`	`db on the other hand gets something a bit more substantal`
`16:42.54`	`JeffM2501`	`does sf have an estimate as to when anon CVS will be synced again?`
`16:43.09`	`JeffM2501`	`probalby not till after another outage as they move it :(`
`16:45.06`	`eXtreme`	`nothing on the status page`
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`16:52.18`	`TimRiker`	`new debian package did not fix the amd64 issue.`
`16:52.37`	`JeffM2501`	`that sucks`
`16:52.49`	`TimRiker`	`me nods`
`16:52.53`	`TimRiker`	`heh.`
`16:54.13`	`JeffM2501`	`well ether that or you went caveman on us :)`
`16:54.13`	`TimRiker`	`me want more learning`
`16:54.17`	`JeffM2501`	`me want more time`
`16:57.40`	`gsnedders`	`/me != me :P`
`17:01.25`	`JeffM2501`	`pixie stix?`
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`17:36.10`	`JeffM2501`	`blast007, you arround?`
`17:36.45`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`17:37.04`	`JeffM2501`	`you said current version of phpbb worked with php5?`
`17:37.12`	`blast007`	`yup`
`17:37.27`	`JeffM2501`	`how long would it take you to apply super quick reply and atachment mods to it?`
`17:37.38`	`blast007`	`not too long`
`17:37.45`	`JeffM2501`	`I'm thinkin we just upgrade during the move`
`17:37.48`	`blast007`	`k`
`17:37.50`	`JeffM2501`	`is that feasable?`
`17:37.54`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`17:37.59`	`blast007`	`the DB is likely already updated`
`17:38.09`	`JeffM2501`	`you have time to set it up on the test server?`
`17:38.16`	`blast007`	`yup`
`17:38.38`	`JeffM2501`	`cus it's kinda working right now, but not really all the way`
`17:38.51`	`JeffM2501`	`like when you post it just hangs`
`17:38.53`	`JeffM2501`	`but leaves the post`
`17:38.54`	`blast007`	`also, the new one would block all the spam registrations`
`17:39.01`	`JeffM2501`	`sweet`
`17:39.19`	`JeffM2501`	`the template allready has the mod code in it`
`17:39.25`	`JeffM2501`	`so that should help`
`17:39.33`	`JeffM2501`	`oh, there is one other special mod we made`
`17:39.42`	`JeffM2501`	`to give the template access to the username`
`17:39.45`	`JeffM2501`	`for the chat button`
`17:39.46`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`17:39.54`	`blast007`	`I did that in my sample board too`
`17:39.58`	`JeffM2501`	`your good :)`
`17:40.26`	`blast007`	`I'll also eventually get an image verification mod for the guest posting areas`
`17:40.39`	`blast007`	`I found one, but I didn't like how it operated, so I rewrote it somewhere`
`17:40.50`	`JeffM2501`	`we don't have guest posting areas anymore`
`17:40.56`	`blast007`	`registration?`
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`17:41.08`	`JeffM2501`	`removed`
`17:41.11`	`blast007`	`we just gonna do email support for that?`
`17:41.15`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`17:41.17`	`blast007`	`k`
`17:41.17`	`JeffM2501`	`may as well`
`17:41.19`	`DeadDuck`	`hello`
`17:41.32`	`JeffM2501`	`the legit uses of it was so small, it didn't justify it's existance`
`17:41.40`	`JeffM2501`	`hello DeadDuck`
`17:42.25`	`DeadDuck`	`i have a problem with bzflag :(`
`17:42.43`	`blast007`	`ok, ask us :)`
`17:42.46`	`DeadDuck`	`it workt realy good for somedays ago but now it wont start`
`17:42.50`	`DeadDuck`	`DeadDuck@linux:/usr/bin> bzflag`
`17:42.50`	`DeadDuck`	`X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)`
`17:42.51`	`DeadDuck`	`Major opcode of failed request: 134 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)`
`17:42.51`	`DeadDuck`	`Minor opcode of failed request: 10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)`
`17:42.51`	`DeadDuck`	`Value in failed request: 0x2e00002`
`17:42.51`	`DeadDuck`	`Serial number of failed request: 85`
`17:42.53`	`DeadDuck`	`Current serial number in output stream: 87`
`17:43.12`	`DeadDuck`	`thats the error message ween i start in terminal`
`17:43.16`	`blast007`	`start it up as: bzflag -window`
`17:43.37`	`blast007`	`then you either have to just hit F1, or pick a different resolution that matches your desktop res`
`17:43.47`	`DeadDuck`	`OMG`
`17:43.51`	`DeadDuck`	`it workt :D`
`17:44.14`	`blast007`	`yeah, it was having issues trying to change the resoltion :)`
`17:46.10`	`DeadDuck`	`its verry laggy now :S`
`17:46.54`	`blast007`	`what color depth are you running at? any idea?`
`17:47.05`	`blast007`	`and what changed since it last worked?`
`17:47.28`	`DeadDuck`	`dont konw :S`
`17:47.30`	`blast007`	`(for example, if you upgraded your system, you might have to reinstall video drivers)`
`17:47.47`	`DeadDuck`	`all other games seems fine`
`17:48.01`	`DeadDuck`	`quake works perfect`
`17:48.33`	`blast007`	`what video card do you have in the system?`
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`17:48.45`	`DeadDuck`	`gf 3ti200`
`17:48.49`	`blast007`	`and does it report the same video card in the game? (down in the chat area)`
`17:49.10`	`JeffM2501`	`you have the nvidia drivers? not the "nv" ones?`
`17:49.13`	`blast007`	`or does it say something like MESA Indirect`
`17:49.31`	`blast007`	`ah, yeah, nv.. :)`
`17:50.21`	`brlcad`	`JeffM2501: phpbb should be fully fixed here shortly as well -- it's hanging on the e-mail send, which is an unrelated php-on-bsd-5.2.1 issue that I'm working on`
`17:50.28`	`DeadDuck`	`GeForce3/agp/sse/3DNOW! dose it say`
`17:50.44`	`brlcad`	`though i also agree that it's a great time to just upgrade`
`17:51.20`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah may as well`
`17:54.59`	`DeadDuck`	`shoud i re install video drives?`
`17:55.46`	`JeffM2501`	`is your X conifig set to use the nvidia ones?`
`17:55.47`	`JeffM2501`	`or NV?`
`17:56.18`	`DeadDuck`	`i dont konw :S`
`17:56.23`	`JeffM2501`	`you shoudl find out`
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`18:09.10`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+b *!n=d808ac2d@webchat.bzflag.bz] by JeffM2501`
`18:09.10`	`*** kick/#bzflag [Carnage!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501)`
`18:09.21`	`JeffM2501`	`and we'll be done with that then`
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`18:09.58`	`DeadDuck`	`something is wrong realy wrong :(`
`18:10.19`	`DeadDuck`	`evry game has started to lag`
`18:10.44`	`JeffM2501`	`you may have system problems then`
`18:11.18`	`DeadDuck`	`yea something with my drives`
`18:11.28`	`SportChick`	`JeffM2501: ping`
`18:11.35`	`JeffM2501`	`SportChick, ?`
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`18:21.34`	`gsnedders`	`Pimpinella: you said you were going to have the viper's website up soon, alas it has still not happened`
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`18:24.35`	`ares_home1`	`is jeff here?`
`18:25.12`	`ares_home1`	`how about brlcad?`
`18:25.17`	`_Manu_`	`gsnedders, be patient`
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`18:25.27`	`ares_home1`	`gsnedders?`
`18:25.34`	`gsnedders`	`_Manu_: have been for a while :P`
`18:25.41`	`gsnedders`	`ares_home1: ?`
`18:25.45`	`_Manu_`	`continue for a bit`
`18:25.45`	`ares_home1`	`ah, never mind`
`18:26.09`	`gsnedders`	`ares_home1: I'm Geoffrey, not Jeff :P`
`18:26.27`	`ares_home1`	`ah. i'm asking for JeffM`
`18:26.32`	`DTRemenak`	`ares_home1: whatcha need?`
`18:26.47`	`_Manu_`	`ares_home1, just wait`
`18:27.28`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, he need to JeffM2501 or brlcad :)`
`18:27.34`	`_Manu_`	`s/need/needs/`
`18:27.44`	`JeffM2501`	`who what where?`
`18:27.47`	`DTRemenak`	`_Manu_: most people who need one of them can make do with me ;)`
`18:27.50`	`JeffM2501`	`what's up?`
`18:27.50`	`ares_home`	`or really, one of the devs`
`18:27.58`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, yes I know ;)`
`18:28.00`	`gsnedders`	`DTRemenak: we don't like you know ;)`
`18:28.07`	`DTRemenak`	`yeah I know :)`
`18:28.21`	`ares_home`	`just wanted to know why Death Barrel received a global ban`
`18:28.22`	`JeffM2501`	`DTRemenak, athalon 64 3000+ w/mobo 119 :)`
`18:28.23`	`_Manu_`	`ares_home, DTRemenak and me are also devs`
`18:28.27`	`ares_home`	`ah`
`18:28.29`	`ares_home`	`ok`
`18:28.33`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: seriously?`
`18:28.36`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`18:28.45`	`DTRemenak`	`dang, if they'd had that deal up I woulda got it :)`
`18:29.01`	`JeffM2501`	`ares_home, for anoying players and buging people about cheating in game`
`18:29.06`	`gsnedders`	`Manu is the eviliest of the devs`
`18:29.07`	`JeffM2501`	`we receved many complaints`
`18:29.11`	`ares_home`	`for bugging people?`
`18:29.19`	`JeffM2501`	`following them around servers`
`18:29.21`	`ares_home`	`is that a global ban offense now?`
`18:29.23`	`_Manu_`	`gsnedders, thanks`
`18:29.23`	`JeffM2501`	`harrassment`
`18:29.31`	`JeffM2501`	`when you just got off a global ban`
`18:29.31`	`gsnedders`	`_Manu_: any day :)`
`18:29.31`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`18:29.45`	`JeffM2501`	`this isn't his first time`
`18:29.50`	`JeffM2501`	`so we are done with him`
`18:29.53`	`DTRemenak`	`bragging about cheating also. not really the right attitude there methinks.`
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`18:29.59`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`18:30.04`	`gsnedders`	`_Manu_: /me goes onto Viper's and wonders why me is not longer a cop after that comment :P`
`18:30.17`	`JeffM2501`	`and trying to provite others by telling that they cheat as well....`
`18:30.23`	`ares_home`	`okay, you're saying there are several issues here?`
`18:30.25`	`_Manu_`	`gsnedders, nice try..`
`18:30.32`	`JeffM2501`	`basicly when you get off masterban, you best not show up in any complaints`
`18:30.38`	`JeffM2501`	`you have to walk soflty`
`18:30.40`	`gsnedders`	`s/eve r/ever`
`18:30.52`	`JeffM2501`	`carnage and him feel it's more of a game to piss people off`
`18:30.56`	`JeffM2501`	`so we are done with them`
`18:31.07`	`ares_home`	`so basically, don't piss anyone off after you come off a global ban?`
`18:31.22`	`JeffM2501`	`in geneal.. don't piss anyone off effer if you can help it`
`18:31.35`	`_Manu_`	`ares_home, you most of the times forgets this is only a game, just for fun. You must be friendly`
`18:31.48`	`JeffM2501`	`doing it after a ban dosn't make it seem like a good reason to have removed the ban`
`18:32.03`	`gsnedders`	`ares_home: there are many games I don't play online because ever on them is horrible.`
`18:32.04`	`JeffM2501`	`we have better things todo then babysit`
`18:32.06`	`DTRemenak`	`pissing one person off is not a big deal. people get pissy for any number of reasons. intentionally pissing off a whole bunch of people is not such a good idea`
`18:32.12`	`gsnedders`	`ares_home: I'm thankful BZflag is not like that.`
`18:33.06`	`JeffM2501`	`that reminds me I need to talk to redsoxfan too`
`18:33.16`	`ares_home`	`manu: i most of the time forget it's only a game? you saying that i get unfriendly all most of the time?`
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`18:33.33`	`JeffM2501`	`if you guys are gonna argue take it to /msg ok`
`18:33.41`	`JeffM2501`	`we don't need to see your pissing contest`
`18:33.47`	`_Manu_`	`I receive many complainst against you, most of the times because the language`
`18:33.50`	`ares_home`	`i'm not the one that started accusing people of pissing people off jeff`
`18:33.57`	`ares_home`	`i just came here to get the whole story`
`18:34.03`	`JeffM2501`	`noone accused you of anyting`
`18:34.07`	`JeffM2501`	`you got the story`
`18:34.09`	`ares_home`	`manu did`
`18:34.16`	`JeffM2501`	`then take it up in private with him`
`18:34.21`	`DTRemenak`	`when people get off masterban, they do so under certain conditions, often much stricter than being put on in the first place. if those conditions are not met, they go back on. think of it like parole.`
`18:34.45`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah carnage got off his ban for ONE week`
`18:34.57`	`JeffM2501`	`his responce "oh well I thought you only meant complaints about cheating"`
`18:35.08`	`_Manu_`	`ares_home, well may be Aries :/`
`18:35.19`	`ares_home`	`no, i'm Ares from HoW`
`18:35.23`	`ares_home`	`not Aries`
`18:35.28`	`_Manu_`	`yes I know you`
`18:35.32`	`orchid`	`asdf?`
`18:35.36`	`ares_home`	`right, asdf`
`18:35.39`	`ares_home`	`used to be`
`18:36.33`	`_Manu_`	`JeffM2501, are you sure is Ares and not Aries?`
`18:36.41`	`JeffM2501`	`personaly I don't care`
`18:36.53`	`JeffM2501`	`I don't know who ether of those names are`
`18:36.53`	`ares_home`	`not aries`
`18:36.57`	`ares_home`	`Ares`
`18:37.42`	`JeffM2501`	`whatever`
`18:38.05`	`ares_home`	`in either case, if these kind of rules are going to be enforced, they should be posted. along with any conditions after being removed from a global ban so there's no ambiguities`
`18:38.24`	`JeffM2501`	`it's kind of a feel thing for part of it`
`18:38.34`	`JeffM2501`	`having access to global services is a privilge not a right`
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`18:38.55`	`JeffM2501`	`he can still play on any server that dosn't use masterban`
`18:38.56`	`DTRemenak`	`conditions are told to the individuals when they're removed. if we posted something every time we took someone off masterban there'd be a lot of junk posts :)`
`18:39.02`	`jaredn`	`hello`
`18:39.12`	`ares_home`	`Yes, but in being "feel thing" it also creates an appearance of non-partiality`
`18:39.13`	`DTRemenak`	`hello`
`18:39.20`	`JeffM2501`	`as well as rule dodges that woudl try to min/max the system`
`18:39.23`	`jaredn`	`anyone familiar with bzflag under OS X?`
`18:39.27`	`JeffM2501`	`in general just play nice and you'll be fine`
`18:39.30`	`JeffM2501`	`use common sense`
`18:39.44`	`JeffM2501`	`start making people mad, and then there will be problems`
`18:39.51`	`jaredn`	`is there any "stand alone" server version?`
`18:39.55`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`18:40.00`	`JeffM2501`	`all servers are stand alone`
`18:40.04`	`JeffM2501`	`it's in your bundle`
`18:40.10`	`JeffM2501`	`just right clikc the bzflag icon`
`18:40.15`	`JeffM2501`	`then open the package`
`18:40.18`	`JeffM2501`	`in there will be bzfs`
`18:40.20`	`JeffM2501`	`that is the server`
`18:40.25`	`JeffM2501`	`you can run it direclty from the command line`
`18:40.34`	`JeffM2501`	`there are many posts on bzbb about how to set it up`
`18:40.38`	`ares_home`	`i can see your point too. I just think that mikkel and skit push DB's buttons just as much as DB pushes other people's`
`18:40.46`	`jaredn`	`ok`
`18:40.50`	`jaredn`	`thanks`
`18:41.07`	`Birdie`	`mik and skit havent done anything to them lately`
`18:41.09`	`JeffM2501`	`ares_home, maybe, but I don't get complaints about them`
`18:41.25`	`ares_home`	`that's because they don't push other people's buttons - just DB's`
`18:41.36`	`orchid`	`ares_home: maybe he should ignore them`
`18:41.37`	`DTRemenak`	`ares_home: we do pay attention to who the complaints come from. if there's an obvious conflict of interest we don't take them as seriously.`
`18:42.49`	`JeffM2501`	`masterban or account ban dosn't even come into the picture till I start hearing reports from people I personaly Know`
`18:43.02`	`JeffM2501`	`then they get a couple chances`
`18:43.10`	`JeffM2501`	`but if they blow those chances, they are done.`
`18:43.15`	`SportChick`	`orchid: wow, where've you been?!`
`18:43.26`	`yummy`	`so who complained about this (since i lost the beginning of the story) ?`
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`18:43.41`	`orchid`	`hi SportChick, been afk for a few weeks`
`18:43.42`	`ares_home`	`sry. stupid IRC client crashed`
`18:43.53`	`SportChick`	`orchid: I noticed`
`18:44.10`	`Aribeth`	`hi orcid, SoprtChick`
`18:44.30`	`orchid`	`hi`
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`18:44.44`	`SportChick`	`Aribeth: hiya`
`18:45.08`	`DTRemenak`	`yummy: telling the world who complained about someone usually ends up making them a target for retribution; we don't want that, so we never say who complained. if they want to say, they're welcome to.`
`18:46.59`	`yummy`	`but from what i know only 3 peeps could have complained about 1 discussion that heppened lately`
`18:48.40`	`brlcad`	`howdy Aribeth`
`18:48.46`	`brlcad`	`er, ares_home even too`
`18:49.02`	`ares_home`	`even too?`
`18:49.11`	`Aribeth`	`hello brlcad`
`18:49.15`	`brlcad`	`informally in a bz way of course`
`18:49.27`	`ares_home`	`hi brlcad`
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`18:55.51`	`Mr_Molez`	`clear`
`18:57.04`	`ares_home`	`how do i register?`
`18:57.23`	`blast007`	`ares_home: on IRC?`
`18:57.28`	`ares_home`	`right`
`18:57.31`	`ares_home`	`on IRC`
`18:57.51`	`blast007`	`/msg nickserv help`
`18:58.09`	`blast007`	`or /msg nickserv help register`
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`19:02.43`	`jaredn`	`does anyone know where the os x version stores its maps?`
`19:02.56`	`jaredn`	`i can't pick anything except for "random world" even though i play on some other maps`
`19:03.24`	`brlcad`	`so ares_home you've been avoiding ducati-style or playing under alias?`
`19:04.19`	`a_temp_dist`	`If you've saved worlds from in the game the go into ~/Library/Application Support/BZFlag/worlds`
`19:04.55`	`blast007`	`jaredn: there are plenty of maps on the forum`
`19:05.31`	`jaredn`	`hmm. i see a "cache" folder but no "worlds" folder`
`19:05.37`	`jaredn`	`is there a settting in the game i need to turn on?`
`19:05.47`	`blast007`	`no..`
`19:05.54`	`blast007`	`worlds are not saved by default`
`19:06.01`	`blast007`	`you have to save them manually`
`19:06.07`	`blast007`	`but really, check out the forum`
`19:06.14`	`blast007`	`there is a map releases section`
`19:06.27`	`blast007`	`you can put maps anywhere`
`19:06.40`	`jaredn`	`ok. thanks for the hints`
`19:06.47`	`blast007`	`just supply a full path to them with the -world paramater`
`19:07.39`	`blast007`	`there are also some docs on how to start a server on both the Wiki at bzflag.org, and the forum`
`19:07.50`	`ares_home`	`brlcad: i've not been playing much lately`
`19:08.22`	`ares_home`	`brlcad: haven't played bzflag in about a month`
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`19:20.18`	`yummy`	`can someone explains why i can't join any server with that 2.0.6 client ?`
`19:20.57`	`eXtreme`	`ibot: bzflist`
`19:21.12`	`yummy`	`i log ... download texture ok ... server -> global login approved ..and taht's all .. can't join .. my callsign is writtent in cyan`
`19:21.37`	`yummy`	`even joinning as obs`
`19:21.56`	`trepan`	`replay server?`
`19:22.08`	`yummy`	`hmm?`
`19:22.51`	`yummy`	`dub.bzflag.org 5154`
`19:22.57`	`yummy`	`for exemple`
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`19:30.44`	`menotume`	`yummy: maybe the list server burped, try again`
`19:31.13`	`eXtreme`	`yeh I couldn't connect for a few minutes`
`19:31.13`	`gsnedders`	`mmm… having \n working in the quickMessages would be useful`
`19:31.24`	`yummy`	`ok`
`19:32.26`	`brlcad`	`ahh, var is full`
`19:33.12`	`yummy`	`nvm .. i guess it's something wrong wth my isp tonight`
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`19:39.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`Jeff you really need to read logs before you make decisions`
`19:39.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`i guess you just believe everything you hear now?`
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`19:43.40`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:41:54) blatent: whats my nick showing up as?`
`19:43.40`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:42:11) blatent: no its bullshit, yeah i called mikkel and skit cheaters`
`19:43.40`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:42:22) blatent: but they were talking shit about my team`
`19:43.40`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:42:24) menotume: someone has a big mouth`
`19:43.40`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:42:31) blatent: they start it, i showed up in the middle of the convo`
`19:43.41`	`DeathBarrel`	`(14:42:55) blatent: fucking jeff, total BS, might as well ban everyone, cause everyone is accusing everyone of cheating now`
`19:43.57`	`DeathBarrel`	`oops`
`19:44.09`	`L4m3r`	`hm?`
`19:44.20`	`menotume`	`uhhh`
`19:44.24`	`DeathBarrel`	`sorry sorry`
`19:44.26`	`DeathBarrel`	`wrong window`
`19:44.30`	`DeathBarrel`	`i am having problems here :(`
`19:44.35`	`DeathBarrel`	`i know, i am an idiot`
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`19:44.49`	`eXtreme`	`heh`
`19:45.00`	`Birdie`	`lol`
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`19:45.43`	`trepan`	`guess reworked network / auth. server should be top priority? :)`
`19:45.52`	`bryjen`	`at least he knows ;)`
`19:46.36`	`menotume`	`i wasn't even in that convo`
`19:46.47`	`eXtreme`	`you are now!`
`19:47.09`	`Birdie`	`than its even more funny:)`
`19:47.18`	`menotume`	`heh, ya`
`19:47.18`	`L4m3r`	`guess I joined the channel too late`
`19:47.31`	`orchid`	`(14:42:55) menotume: make sure it looks like I'm not in this conversation`
`19:47.39`	`blast007`	`lol`
`19:47.47`	`Birdie`	`hehe`
`19:47.49`	`eXtreme`	`hah`
`19:47.51`	`eXtreme`	`nice`
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`19:48.14`	`bryjen`	`14:43:00) menotume: because I'll deny any knowledge of it later.`
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`19:48.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`sorry guys, i didn't mean to paste that here, sorry meno`
`19:48.39`	`L4m3r`	`Gnurdux: uh....`
`19:48.56`	`menotume`	`Death_Barrel: i wasn't even in that convo`
`19:49.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`well i now i don't even know what i pasted`
`19:49.34`	`menotume`	`heh, i won't repeat it :P`
`19:49.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`well it was for jeff`
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`19:53.58`	`menotume`	`orchid !!!`
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`19:54.30`	`brlcad`	`it's a natural reaction`
`19:55.32`	`menotume`	`lol`
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`20:07.23`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: may not be DB`
`20:09.36`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/debian/rules: dh 4, amd64 work around`
`20:10.50`	`trepan`	`JeffM2501: odd how my ban disappeared during your commits (not that it was ever applied)`
`20:11.08`	`JeffM2501`	`did you check yours info CVS?`
`20:11.12`	`JeffM2501`	`or did I screw up`
`20:11.22`	`trepan`	`cvs diff -r1.51 -r1.53 master-bans.txt`
`20:11.33`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac include/network.h): kfreebsd`
`20:11.50`	`trepan`	`did you not update and override the check?`
`20:12.07`	`JeffM2501`	`I got latest and then just added`
`20:12.08`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/debian/control: depends`
`20:12.51`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03timriker 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/debian/changelog.in: remember the changes`
`20:13.20`	`JeffM2501`	`looks like I blew it out by accdent`
`20:13.21`	`JeffM2501`	`let me fix`
`20:13.47`	`TD-Linux`	`do masterbans ever expire?`
`20:14.02`	`JeffM2501`	`depends on the ban`
`20:14.03`	`JeffM2501`	`some do`
`20:14.05`	`JeffM2501`	`some dont`
`20:14.05`	`Daler`	`can someone help me? I'm trying to add additional scoring for CTF captures (eventually configurable). I've found the place in bzfs.cxx thatdoes the captureFlag processing. I added the score there, then forced a MsgScore packet out...but its not updating the player who actually captures the flag despite the MsgScore packet reaching them`
`20:14.13`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: oppsy`
`20:15.00`	`TD-Linux`	`I think that was why they removed the scoring stuff from the plugin interface ?`
`20:15.23`	`JeffM2501`	`Daler, yeah the client in 2.0.x dosn't allawys take server side updates into account`
`20:15.31`	`JeffM2501`	`on 2.1.x we moved it all server side`
`20:15.44`	`JeffM2501`	`basicly on 2.0.x the client still does part of the score`
`20:15.54`	`Daler`	`ah ok...so I'm not crazy :)`
`20:16.03`	`brlcad`	`maybe you are, but that's irrelevant ;)`
`20:16.22`	`Daler`	`I noticed a big difference between 2.0.6 source and the latest cvs...with respect to this at least`
`20:16.39`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`20:16.45`	`brlcad`	`already diverged quite a bit`
`20:16.48`	`JeffM2501`	`that because we changed it to make it work :)`
`20:16.50`	`brlcad`	`going to keep diverging`
`20:17.03`	`JeffM2501`	`and turn into a butterfly`
`20:17.07`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`20:17.13`	`Pimpinella`	`gsnedders: i got the backup data last thursday, but i had far too much work to care for vipers website. maybe tomorrow though`
`20:17.43`	`Pimpinella`	`i was all alone and had to do the work of 2 1/2 ppl`
`20:17.46`	`Daler`	`guess I'll work off of the latest cvs and get it working there and submit the patch off of that`
`20:17.58`	`trepan`	`JeffM2501: your playground should really be in a branch`
`20:18.36`	`TD-Linux`	`what is the point of a playground in cvs?`
`20:18.43`	`JeffM2501`	`trepan, it would be if I coudl have done it right`
`20:18.49`	`trepan`	`2x the data for checkouts, updates, diffs, etc... just ain't right`
`20:18.50`	`JeffM2501`	`TD-Linux, so it can .. be .. SHARED`
`20:19.02`	`TD-Linux`	`ok`
`20:19.08`	`JeffM2501`	`trepan, if you can make it a branch then I'll be happy :)`
`20:20.15`	`trepan`	`your tools borked, tortoise?`
`20:20.33`	`JeffM2501`	`that's what probely happend`
`20:26.47`	`CBG`	`Has anon CVS been updated since the cvs downage now?`
`20:27.09`	`CBG`	`(v2_0branch)`
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`20:28.00`	`TD-Linux`	`I just modded a source file to have 2.0.7 during the cvs outage :)`
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`20:45.38`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03trepan 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: test commit`
`20:52.11`	`brlcad`	`yay, 200 more emails :)`
`20:52.11`	`JeffM2501`	`huzzah`
`20:52.11`	`_Manu_`	`nah, only one :)`
`20:53.53`	`JeffM2501`	`he's not done :)`
`20:54.08`	`_Manu_`	`aw`
`20:54.20`	`_Manu_`	`:/`
`20:54.40`	`menotume`	`<CIA-6> BZFlag: trepan playground_branch * bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: test revert`
`20:54.44`	`gsnedders`	`anybody got the slightest clue as to when anon CVS will be back in sync?`
`20:55.23`	`trepan`	`menotume: ?`
`20:55.25`	`_Manu_`	`menotume, nice try ;)`
`20:55.32`	`menotume`	`awww`
`20:55.49`	`menotume`	`nvm trepan, just testing :)`
`20:56.28`	`trepan`	`should switch to svn, soon ;)`
`20:57.48`	`gsnedders`	`where are the stats for total people on bzflag?`
`20:57.57`	`gsnedders`	`(on stats.bzflag.org, IIRC)`
`21:00.30`	`CIA-6`	`BZFlag: 03trepan 07playground_branch * 10bzflag/ (837 files in 42 dirs): commit the rest of the playground stuff`
`21:02.45`	`brlcad`	`ahh, only 42 emails`
`21:02.59`	`trepan`	`playground_branch should now be equivalent to the playground module`
`21:03.04`	`JeffM2501`	`thank you trepan`
`21:03.30`	`trepan`	`(thought you'd used a bzflag/playground subdir, but you really did make a new module, my bad)`
`21:04.00`	`JeffM2501`	`oh yeah new module, so you wern't downloading it 2x`
`21:04.04`	`JeffM2501`	`but branch is better`
`21:04.07`	`trepan`	`BZFlagG3D wasn't enough of a playground for ya?`
`21:04.08`	`JeffM2501`	`easyer to merge`
`21:04.13`	`brlcad`	`you were if you wanted to merge between the two ;)`
`21:04.16`	`JeffM2501`	`g3d ended ups ucking`
`21:05.31`	`trepan`	`brlcad: yup, that's why I still did the branch push :)`
`21:07.41`	`JeffM2501`	`we can have SF delete the old one right?`
`21:15.44`	`trepan`	`have 'em nuke BZFlagG3D while you're at it?`
`21:15.49`	`trepan`	`looks empty`
`21:17.13`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah`
`21:17.14`	`JeffM2501`	`it is`
`21:18.21`	`brlcad`	`we can if one of the project admins submits a request`
`21:20.12`	`JeffM2501`	`arn't we now project admins?`
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`21:26.52`	`JeffM2501`	`blast007, how's the update board coming?`
`21:30.47`	`JeffM2501`	`autobots wage there battle to destroy the evil forces of the decepticons..`
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`21:37.19`	`blast007`	`JeffM2501: I'll be able to work on it later...not sure when I'll get to it`
`21:37.27`	`JeffM2501`	`ok`
`21:37.40`	`JeffM2501`	`then we may have to swap with what we got now`
`21:37.46`	`JeffM2501`	`once the mail thing is fixed`
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`22:43.39`	`Alex135`	`one question... how big in meeters is the defult tank size?`
`22:44.06`	`JeffM2501`	`in what axis?`
`22:44.49`	`Alex135`	`all of them... if its ok`
`22:45.20`	`JeffM2501`	`don't know them exactly off the top of my head, but I think it's about 1.6 high, 2.something wide, and over 3 long`
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`22:45.28`	`JeffM2501`	`there should be a post in the fourms about it`
`22:45.43`	`JeffM2501`	`I can't open the model here`
`22:45.47`	`Alex135`	`ok...`
`22:46.03`	`JeffM2501`	`or can it?`
`22:46.09`	`Alex135`	`btw.. is the forum finished being transferd?`
`22:46.16`	`JeffM2501`	`nope`
`22:46.19`	`JeffM2501`	`hasn't even started`
`22:46.32`	`Alex135`	`oh...`
`22:46.34`	`Alex135`	`oh boy...`
`22:46.49`	`Alex135`	`how soon will it be tell everything is done?`
`22:46.57`	`JeffM2501`	`dono`
`22:47.04`	`JeffM2501`	`I have the sizes here`
`22:47.13`	`Alex135`	`ok :) how big are they?`
`22:47.16`	`JeffM2501`	`it's 2.08 heigh`
`22:47.22`	`JeffM2501`	`2.8 wide`
`22:47.32`	`JeffM2501`	`and 8.04 long`
`22:47.42`	`JeffM2501`	`in game units`
`22:47.42`	`Alex135`	`thx :)`
`22:47.49`	`Alex135`	`in meeters , right?`
`22:48.00`	`JeffM2501`	`if you want to call game unit a meeter, sure`
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`22:48.11`	`JeffM2501`	`we have no refrence to the real world`
`22:48.11`	`Alex135`	`lol yeah... i think thats how big it is... thx :)`
`22:48.16`	`Alex135`	`lol ok`
`22:48.22`	`Alex135`	`thx :)`
`22:48.25`	`JeffM2501`	`but that's about as big as a real tank if you use metric`
`22:48.37`	`Alex135`	`oh cool...`
`22:48.41`	`Alex135`	`thx :)`
`22:48.43`	`JeffM2501`	`a small one IIRC`
`22:48.59`	`Alex135`	`i g2g... thx again`
`22:49.05`	`JeffM2501`	`have fun`
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`22:51.00`	`trepan`	`JeffM2501: reluctant imperialist`
`22:51.11`	`JeffM2501`	`heh`
`22:51.20`	`JeffM2501`	`I allways think of them in MM`
`22:51.24`	`JeffM2501`	`since the tanks are toys`
`22:51.57`	`JeffM2501`	`and we all know the one true measure is furlongs`
`22:52.01`	`JeffM2501`	`milifurlongs`
`22:52.06`	`JeffM2501`	`kilofurlongs`
`22:54.48`	`trepan`	`attolightyears?`
`22:54.57`	`trepan`	`closer to your mm ...`
`22:55.21`	`JeffM2501`	`angstroms`
`22:55.46`	`trepan`	`not even close`
`22:55.57`	`JeffM2501`	`I'm just makin crap up now :)`
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`23:05.00`	`im_fine_u`	`Ive come to say. I am sorry for my outlandish attitude everyone, please forgive me`
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`23:15.12`	`brlcad`	`im_fine_u: it's appreciated, bygones the first time ;)`
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`23:23.45`	`CBG`	`I would say the tank is 2(.08) centimetres tall...`
`23:24.04`	`CBG`	`Since that's what it is like on my screen - I don't think of it in terms of a real, life-size tank.`
`23:25.01`	`brlcad`	`2.08 meters`
`23:25.46`	`brlcad`	`which ever so roughly corresponds to the height of a real (albeit 'slightly' small) tank`
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`23:32.51`	`QuickTim`	`when i use cvs i use this command line: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co v2_0_6 right?`
`23:33.52`	`trepan`	`~bzcvs`
`23:33.53`	`ibot`	`cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag`
`23:34.11`	`QuickTim`	`oh`
`23:34.23`	`QuickTim`	`sheesh, i guess you get that alot..`
`23:34.23`	`Aribeth`	`knowlege is blis`
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`23:34.41`	`CBG`	`Were there any changes between RC1 of 2.0.6 and the actual release?`
`23:34.41`	`trepan`	`v2_0branch has some fixes 2.0.6 doesn't have, but anon cvs is out of sync iirc`
`23:35.39`	`CBG`	`There is source for a Release Candidate of 2.0.6, will that be the same as for 2.0.6 actual release?`
`23:37.54`	`QuickTim`	`where did the admin message sound originate from?`
`23:38.02`	`CBG`	`Oh boy, I can get the 2.0.6 source on sf.net. Just ignore me.`
`23:39.18`	`trepan`	`message_admin.wav: revision 1.1, date: 2004/07/23 01:00:57; author: brlcad`
`23:40.03`	`QuickTim`	`well i kinda meant why pick such an annoying sound`
`23:40.10`	`QuickTim`	`i found a cooler one, much easier on the ears`
`23:40.27`	`trepan`	`revision 1.2: nidhoggr makes his admin message louder`
`23:40.56`	`trepan`	`afaik, it's supposed to be annoying`
`23:41.04`	`QuickTim`	`is there a way i can add mine in`
`23:41.11`	`QuickTim`	`so that it becomes the new sound`
`23:41.48`	`trepan`	`post a link to it here, and see if one of the devs bite`
`23:43.03`	`QuickTim`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:43.31`	`QuickTim`	`freeware license so its good to go.`
`23:50.04`	`CBG`	`QuickTim: Too fancy and long... it should just be a single beep.`
`23:51.16`	`brlcad`	`CBG: if it were the same, why would we have bothered releasing again? :)`
`23:51.44`	`brlcad`	`er, I didn't make the admin sound`
`23:51.54`	`brlcad`	`that was menotumes doing iirc`
`23:52.04`	`CBG`	`Fair enough... I was just being stupid.`
`23:52.08`	`brlcad`	`mine were subtle quiet bleeps and boops`
`23:52.16`	`brlcad`	`team and private were from me`
`23:52.35`	`CBG`	`A better sound would be from one of the sections here: http://www.flashkit.com/soundfx/Interfaces/`
`23:52.40`	`brlcad`	`ahh, nid.. i should read everything`
`23:52.43`	`brlcad`	`so not meno`
`23:52.49`	`CBG`	`A beeop, pop or blip...`
`23:53.35`	`brlcad`	`wow, that would get annoying quick i'd imagine.. it's too long`
`23:53.59`	`CBG`	`Exactly ;)`
`23:54.20`	`QuickTim`	`i liked something smooth`
`23:54.29`	`QuickTim`	`well ill keep looking then`
`23:54.45`	`QuickTim`	`while i wait for configure to stop puking`
`23:54.53`	`brlcad`	`CBG: that's a nice site.. lots of good ones`
`23:55.00`	`uso`	`you can change it for yourself, where's th problem`
`23:55.14`	`QuickTim`	`erm every flash artist knows of there`
`23:55.28`	`JeffM2501`	`brlcad, did you figure out the mail thing?`
`23:55.48`	`QuickTim`	`http://www.flashkit.com/soundfx/Interfaces/Beeps/High_Bee-Public_D-135/index.php`
`23:55.51`	`QuickTim`	`how is that one?`
`23:55.58`	`brlcad`	`JeffM2501: not a matter of figuring, it's a matter of upgrading/fixing ;) .. the compiles are going`
`23:56.01`	`CBG`	`brlcad: it's the same site QuickTim linked too - just the Interferece catergory...`
`23:56.08`	`JeffM2501`	`ohh`
`23:56.15`	`JeffM2501`	`you had to upgrade apache and/or php?`
`23:56.26`	`brlcad`	`php`
`23:56.29`	`JeffM2501`	`fun`
`23:56.36`	`CBG`	`QuickTim: not so much different to the current one.`
`23:56.36`	`brlcad`	`automated`
`23:56.49`	`QuickTim`	`CBG: its not as deafening`
`23:56.52`	`brlcad`	`but it's upgrading everything in ports, so it takes a while`
`23:56.56`	`CBG`	`We have a "beep" - there ain't gonna be much difference between other "beep"s ;)`
`23:57.10`	`QuickTim`	`the current is a berzert`
`23:57.12`	`brlcad`	`that beep is better`
`23:57.43`	`QuickTim`	`lets just take the Mac error sound`
`23:57.46`	`QuickTim`	`that would be so fun`
`23:57.58`	`QuickTim`	`drive people insane`
`23:59.08`	`brlcad`	`heh, how about http://www.flashkit.com/soundfx/Interfaces/Bloops/Wet_Nap-dropzero-7770/index.php`
`23:59.30`	`QuickTim`	`the idea is not to go high-pitched`
`23:59.57`	`Aribeth`	`hummmm....ultrasonics`

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