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| 00:18.06 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 00:18.15 | JeffM2501 | I just had it read from it, but save out to the new place |
| 00:18.23 | JeffM2501 | I even cleared out the update part |
| 00:18.35 | JeffM2501 | so it's realy the same as 2.0.6 |
| 00:18.41 | JeffM2501 | just in a new place |
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| 00:37.01 | Nidhoggr | tim or learner/brlcad, any of you around? |
| 00:37.49 | JeffM2501 | learner went to see ice age |
| 00:37.53 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
| 00:37.59 | JeffM2501 | tim made some changes to the server |
| 00:38.03 | JeffM2501 | it seems to be running beter |
| 00:38.04 | Nidhoggr | I have a serious dilema |
| 00:38.09 | Nidhoggr | what sort of changes? |
| 00:38.14 | JeffM2501 | I don't know |
| 00:38.18 | JeffM2501 | he said "kernel" stuff |
| 00:38.20 | Nidhoggr | I just lost one of my main servers |
| 00:38.22 | Nidhoggr | ah cool |
| 00:38.25 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 00:38.30 | JeffM2501 | what happen to it? |
| 00:38.35 | Nidhoggr | and I don't have any resources to replace the motherboard. |
| 00:38.38 | Nidhoggr | blown caps |
| 00:38.51 | Nidhoggr | it's an old supermicro p3. |
| 00:38.52 | JeffM2501 | how much is a mobo? |
| 00:38.59 | Nidhoggr | I can't find a replacement. |
| 00:39.06 | JeffM2501 | so you have to redo the machine? |
| 00:39.07 | Nidhoggr | so it probably means a new server. |
| 00:39.14 | JeffM2501 | how much those run? |
| 00:39.18 | Nidhoggr | so it seem, at this point. |
| 00:39.35 | Nidhoggr | about 500ish |
| 00:39.39 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 00:39.43 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 00:39.49 | JeffM2501 | so you need the SP machine? |
| 00:39.51 | Nidhoggr | and I am close to loosing a second machine. |
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| 00:40.03 | Nidhoggr | unless I can find another solution. |
| 00:40.10 | JeffM2501 | I can get it all moved off this weekiend |
| 00:40.15 | JeffM2501 | or give you some moeny for a new one |
| 00:40.29 | Nidhoggr | I'm just so frustrated with all of this. |
| 00:40.34 | JeffM2501 | I can imagine |
| 00:40.46 | JeffM2501 | we were planing on moving the image hosting off the machine tomorow |
| 00:40.48 | JeffM2501 | I'll just move it all |
| 00:41.03 | Nidhoggr | 2 machines going bad at once, and no big income right now, and a retreat coming up in a week. |
| 00:41.16 | Nidhoggr | I really feel helpless. |
| 00:41.20 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 00:41.39 | JeffM2501 | I'd glady send you 150-200 for a mobo, but if you can't find one :( |
| 00:41.47 | Nidhoggr | my main email and other things are on the machine. |
| 00:42.03 | Nidhoggr | I can find a lot of motherboards but nothing that is specifically designed for 1U machine. |
| 00:42.12 | JeffM2501 | it is no problem for us to move off it so you can recyle it |
| 00:42.21 | JeffM2501 | can problaby even move SP to bzflag.bz if you wanted |
| 00:42.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah 1U's have to be hard to find |
| 00:42.39 | Nidhoggr | problem is that the RAM is slanted to make it so the fan can blow on the processor. |
| 00:43.22 | Nidhoggr | well, check with the guys, and see if they can help. I can just swap these drives into the bz machine and be up in no time, if it comes to that. |
| 00:43.38 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:43.49 | JeffM2501 | I"m sure I can get us off there in a couple hours |
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| 00:44.40 | Nidhoggr | well, that would certainly be appreciated. I really feel super-bad about it. |
| 00:44.49 | JeffM2501 | we know you do all you can :) |
| 00:45.21 | Nidhoggr | I was so shocked when dragon.org died. I was expecting the other machine to go first... but caps go so fast. |
| 00:46.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah I guess so |
| 00:46.11 | JeffM2501 | we kinda figured out what was keeping open connections on the machine |
| 00:46.16 | Nidhoggr | they are barely noticeable as bad... just bulging at the top a bit. |
| 00:46.20 | Nidhoggr | what was that? |
| 00:46.45 | JeffM2501 | bzfs server and the bzflag client don't allways close web connections |
| 00:46.53 | Nidhoggr | strange. |
| 00:46.56 | JeffM2501 | so every server was keeping open a connection to the list |
| 00:47.03 | Nidhoggr | wow. |
| 00:47.06 | JeffM2501 | and and every client one to SF |
| 00:47.08 | Nidhoggr | that would definitely cause problems. |
| 00:47.09 | JeffM2501 | was a curl problem |
| 00:47.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:47.23 | Nidhoggr | a bug, or just overlooked problem? |
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| 00:47.31 | JeffM2501 | did you want me to see about moving SP game server as well? |
| 00:47.39 | Nidhoggr | not right now. |
| 00:47.46 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:47.47 | Nidhoggr | I may find a home for it. |
| 00:47.50 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 00:47.57 | JeffM2501 | check your paypall :0 |
| 00:48.01 | Nidhoggr | if I can get a replacement board, I will get something back up for the game at least. |
| 00:48.21 | JeffM2501 | well I'll start the move tonight |
| 00:48.35 | JeffM2501 | I'll get the databases dumped and moved over, and shut down the forums |
| 00:48.45 | Nidhoggr | aaaw. thank you so much. it will definitely help. |
| 00:48.54 | JeffM2501 | and see if I can get tim to change the DNS so it'll start propigating |
| 00:49.00 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 00:49.11 | JeffM2501 | brlcad will have to do some apache config to do list server but shouldn't be hard |
| 00:49.20 | CBG | Nidhoggr: I mentioned a donation a few weeks ago, you told me your PayPal address but I was already using the SF thing. I can send $20 direct to you now, if you want. |
| 00:49.20 | JeffM2501 | good thing tim checked all the stuff into CVS today |
| 00:49.38 | Nidhoggr | cbg, frcameron@sacredcup.org |
| 00:49.47 | Nidhoggr | good thing. |
| 00:50.18 | JeffM2501 | too bad it's a 1RU unit, if it was a normal one I could have sent some hardware with my parents, they'll be in PX on wednesday |
| 00:51.11 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 00:52.03 | Nidhoggr | I might be able to get something from a local server place... see if they have some used stuff. |
| 00:52.03 | JeffM2501 | in theory I shoudl be able to tarball up the entire web dir right? |
| 00:52.03 | JeffM2501 | and just move it over |
| 00:52.09 | blast007 | should be able to, yeah |
| 00:52.14 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 00:52.30 | JeffM2501 | I'm making a post now saying the fourms will be down tomorw |
| 00:53.37 | Nidhoggr | should be able to. |
| 00:53.46 | CBG | Nidhoggr: money sent, I hope it helps. |
| 00:53.53 | Nidhoggr | thanks. very appreciated. |
| 00:54.15 | JeffM2501 | hey, your server has allways been hella better then the old list server ;) |
| 00:54.57 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 00:55.05 | JeffM2501 | blast, I'm thinking I mysqldump the database, then disable the boards in the config, and move it over |
| 00:55.09 | JeffM2501 | that sound like it would work? |
| 00:55.12 | Nidhoggr | I just can't guarantee reliability like I could before. |
| 00:55.39 | JeffM2501 | times change |
| 00:56.10 | Nidhoggr | I'll get dragon.org back up, and then get this one repaired somehow, and replace the other breaking server with the old dragon.org, and keep secretplace on that machine. |
| 00:56.17 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I personally haven't used mysqldump before |
| 00:56.29 | blast007 | I always do phpMyAdmin's export feature ;) |
| 00:56.39 | JeffM2501 | it's the same thing :) |
| 00:56.45 | JeffM2501 | they just call dump |
| 00:56.47 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:56.50 | JeffM2501 | it makes a .sql file |
| 00:56.55 | Nidhoggr | you are often safe to copy the mysql dir as well. |
| 00:57.08 | L4m3r | I've had problems with mySQL dump restorations timing out before, be careful |
| 00:57.09 | Nidhoggr | you have to create the database first, then copy the data in. |
| 00:57.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:57.20 | JeffM2501 | I've done it at work before |
| 00:57.23 | JeffM2501 | on 3-4 gig dbs |
| 00:57.27 | L4m3r | I once had to write a script to iterate over an SQL file to restore it... |
| 00:57.28 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:57.28 | JeffM2501 | bzbb is like 30 megs |
| 00:57.33 | JeffM2501 | it shoudl be fine |
| 00:57.36 | L4m3r | jesus, that's huge |
| 00:57.38 | Nidhoggr | that's not bad. |
| 00:57.45 | L4m3r | mine was like 120MB, about a million lines |
| 00:57.57 | JeffM2501 | the ones at work are for our tech support database |
| 00:58.05 | L4m3r | Crazy. |
| 00:58.05 | JeffM2501 | tons of customer part files |
| 00:58.08 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 00:58.13 | JeffM2501 | we purge it to keep it small |
| 00:58.22 | JeffM2501 | it coudl be like 20-30 right now if we didn't |
| 00:58.25 | L4m3r | wow |
| 00:58.58 | DTRemenak | Nidhoggr: Atacom has a number of older supermicro replacement parts. http://www.atacom.com - motherboards, by manufacturer, supermicro, look through the list. |
| 00:59.22 | Nidhoggr | looking |
| 01:02.17 | JeffM2501 | this looks to have tilited ram |
| 01:02.18 | JeffM2501 | http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?&USER_ID=www&cart_id=2347412_208_48_199_221&Item_code=MB3F_SUPE_P3_SF |
| 01:02.49 | DTRemenak | yeah, there are a couple of single-proc 1u boards there |
| 01:03.04 | JeffM2501 | if you need more $$ let me know nid |
| 01:03.15 | JeffM2501 | but we'll still get of the machine, so you have the most options |
| 01:03.29 | JeffM2501 | and maybe if you want to when you get it all set up, use you as a backup system |
| 01:04.04 | Nidhoggr | that would be a good possibility. |
| 01:04.39 | Nidhoggr | that board is almost the same board. |
| 01:07.37 | JeffM2501 | ok then I'm off too some errants then home and I"ll start geting it moved over. |
| 01:08.24 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, if you see tim can you tell him we'll need the DNSs moved, I've allready sent word to brclad, and he had said I could move what ever I needed for bzflag to .bz a couple days ago |
| 01:08.49 | DTRemenak | ok. just cname m.b.o to bzflag.bz? |
| 01:09.14 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how it works |
| 01:09.17 | JeffM2501 | there is images. bzflag.bz |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | there is the db one |
| 01:09.28 | JeffM2501 | and my.b.o |
| 01:09.34 | JeffM2501 | and maybe bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 01:09.37 | DTRemenak | db is on m.b.o |
| 01:09.47 | JeffM2501 | yes but it has it's own sub |
| 01:09.47 | DTRemenak | bzbb is redirect to m.b.o |
| 01:09.52 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 01:09.57 | JeffM2501 | you know more about it then I |
| 01:10.01 | DTRemenak | heh. ok |
| 01:10.08 | DTRemenak | I was more curious about the other end |
| 01:10.32 | DTRemenak | how brlcad wants things to point to .bz |
| 01:10.33 | JeffM2501 | I'll get it copied to beta.bzflag.bz to make sure it has the right php and stuff, then get brlcad to make users and webdirs for there real homes |
| 01:10.38 | JeffM2501 | that I dono |
| 01:10.44 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 01:10.49 | JeffM2501 | mostly just let tim know that we need them to move, so he has a heads up |
| 01:10.59 | JeffM2501 | he's drivin home now |
| 01:11.01 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 01:11.17 | JeffM2501 | and I need to get some beers if I'm gonna move files tonight :) |
| 01:11.23 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 01:11.36 | Nidhoggr | ordering new mobo now. |
| 01:11.51 | JeffM2501 | need any more? |
| 01:12.10 | JeffM2501 | 30-40 for shipping? |
| 01:12.23 | Nidhoggr | dude, you've done plenty. |
| 01:12.30 | Nidhoggr | oh, nice. |
| 01:12.39 | JeffM2501 | 7.25% |
| 01:12.47 | Nidhoggr | I just got $140 dollars in beads that should make me about $600 |
| 01:12.52 | JeffM2501 | you've done so much for us, and noone gives back to you, I feel bad |
| 01:12.56 | Nidhoggr | once I can do the work on them. |
| 01:13.06 | Nidhoggr | well, you shouldn't do it all by yourself. |
| 01:13.12 | Nidhoggr | you have done a lot. |
| 01:13.20 | Nidhoggr | as have a few others. :) they know who they aren. |
| 01:13.22 | Nidhoggr | are |
| 01:13.51 | JeffM2501 | well I use the forums and the machine a lot |
| 01:13.55 | JeffM2501 | so have some more money ;) |
| 01:14.18 | JeffM2501 | bbl |
| 01:15.42 | Nidhoggr | he is very sneaky. |
| 01:16.04 | CBG | who? Jeff? |
| 01:17.56 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 01:18.02 | Nidhoggr | he just sent me another $100 |
| 01:18.08 | Nidhoggr | that's $200 today from him. |
| 01:18.28 | CBG | eek. :) |
| 01:19.04 | Nidhoggr | wow. |
| 01:22.00 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:22.24 | Nidhoggr | blown capacitors... I really am annoyed. |
| 01:22.27 | CBG | Though, obviosuly I'll also need to arrange to host something as a favour to someone else... |
| 01:22.39 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:23.14 | Nidhoggr | we wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for corporate spying. |
| 01:23.24 | CBG | heh |
| 01:23.28 | Nidhoggr | it's true. |
| 01:23.44 | Nidhoggr | the whole bad capacitor thing is an epidemic. |
| 01:23.54 | Nidhoggr | it's happening everywhere. |
| 01:24.03 | CBG | :D |
| 01:24.12 | Nidhoggr | you don't notice it so much unless you've worked in a datacenter. |
| 01:25.49 | DTRemenak | or anywhere else with a lot of hardware |
| 01:25.58 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:26.06 | DTRemenak | one year or two years, and bang, all dead |
| 01:26.16 | DTRemenak | solid state stuff is not supposed to die like that |
| 01:26.29 | Nidhoggr | this one was 5 or 6 years old. |
| 01:28.50 | L4m3r | this is probably a stupid question, but are they replaceable, or do they take the whole mobo with them when they pop? |
| 01:29.06 | Nidhoggr | usually the whole mobo has to be replaced. |
| 01:29.26 | Nidhoggr | mostly because the multi-layer boards don't do well with manual parts replacement. |
| 01:29.59 | L4m3r | ah, that's true. :\ |
| 01:30.52 | L4m3r | reminds me of an idiot who de-soldered one of those tiny lights off a mobo because it was the wrong color... |
| 01:31.10 | Nidhoggr | lol |
| 01:31.15 | L4m3r | couldn't manage to short it right, go figure |
| 01:31.18 | Nidhoggr | I'd try it if I had the right tools. |
| 01:31.20 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:31.21 | L4m3r | and everyone warned him too |
| 01:32.35 | L4m3r | well, know that you're not the only one who's had server trouble this week |
| 01:32.47 | Nidhoggr | I have a second server that is dying. |
| 01:32.49 | L4m3r | we managed to break the planet mofo server yesterday :| |
| 01:32.55 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 01:33.09 | L4m3r | had to pay to have it restored |
| 01:33.11 | Nidhoggr | well, secretplace will probably be offline for a few weeks. |
| 01:33.22 | Nidhoggr | once all the server stuff is moved. |
| 01:33.42 | L4m3r | I can host it, if you like. Once Quantumbeep has his sorted out I'm sure he'd be happy too. |
| 01:33.46 | Nidhoggr | it will also give me a chance to decide on some changes. |
| 01:34.09 | L4m3r | he and I are on 100mbit/15mbit pipes, respectively. Just say the word. |
| 01:34.14 | Nidhoggr | I think I can still manage. I just don't have the time to spend on working on it for a few weeks. |
| 01:34.47 | Nidhoggr | I'm going to change maps and stuff. |
| 01:34.54 | Nidhoggr | I just have to make some decisions. |
| 01:34.56 | L4m3r | I really wish the game was still as popular as it once was. |
| 01:35.06 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 01:35.23 | L4m3r | It's much better than badgerking's could ever hope to be, IMHO |
| 01:35.40 | Nidhoggr | well, secretplace had its hayday. |
| 01:35.46 | Nidhoggr | it might again. |
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| 01:35.57 | L4m3r | I was just a wee newbie :) |
| 01:36.00 | Nidhoggr | we ran #1 for 2 years |
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| 01:37.23 | L4m3r | well, if for whatever reason you need a hold-over on hosting (or someone to seed your new map) you know where to find me |
| 01:37.31 | Nidhoggr | will do. |
| 01:37.44 | L4m3r | I'm off to eat... |
| 01:37.54 | Nidhoggr | take care. |
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| 01:38.14 | Nidhoggr | rehi |
| 01:38.18 | Nidhoggr | you are a sneaky one. |
| 01:38.34 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm prime rib |
| 01:38.38 | Nidhoggr | ooh |
| 01:38.51 | JeffM2501 | lunch leftovers |
| 01:38.58 | Nidhoggr | we are doing bratwurst, after our Good Friday meditation. |
| 01:39.20 | JeffM2501 | don't think I've ever had one of those |
| 01:39.33 | Nidhoggr | it's like a big spicy hotdog. |
| 01:39.37 | JeffM2501 | did you get my message about being able to kill the opencombat thing? |
| 01:39.38 | Nidhoggr | but better. |
| 01:39.39 | JeffM2501 | back in the day? |
| 01:39.42 | Nidhoggr | more texture |
| 01:39.48 | Nidhoggr | yeah. I think it was killed the same day. |
| 01:39.49 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:39.52 | JeffM2501 | ok cool |
| 01:39.59 | CBG | Jeff, it seems you really can be nice! :P |
| 01:40.08 | JeffM2501 | I never said I wasn't nice |
| 01:40.10 | Nidhoggr | Saint Jeff. |
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| 01:40.12 | JeffM2501 | just other poeple did |
| 01:40.18 | Nidhoggr | 'cept he can't be saint until he dies. |
| 01:40.31 | JeffM2501 | and I don't plan on that happenin |
| 01:40.38 | Nidhoggr | jeffm has never been anything but nice to me. |
| 01:40.44 | CBG | JeffM2501: sometimes, people can get a different impression.. :) |
| 01:41.13 | Nidhoggr | people get exactly what they put out. |
| 01:41.21 | JeffM2501 | CBG, yeah when your the admin of a thing, some people just see you in a positon of power and to "get them" when all I'm trying to do is enforce the rules that I'm given |
| 01:41.30 | JeffM2501 | it's part of the job |
| 01:41.40 | L4m3r | ^amen |
| 01:42.06 | L4m3r | much less hatred comes my way now that my forums are gone, that's for sure |
| 01:42.08 | CBG | :) too true. |
| 01:42.25 | Nidhoggr | ok. I gotta log off for now. Take care everyone. |
| 01:42.25 | JeffM2501 | you just have to deal with it, and seperate it out form your personal stuff |
| 01:42.29 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
| 01:42.35 | CBG | good lunk Nidhoggr |
| 01:42.39 | CBG | luck* |
| 01:42.55 | JeffM2501 | at some points I allmost feel like I should use 2 nicks, one for admin, one for me |
| 01:42.57 | Nidhoggr | thanks a lot, jeff. I really appreciate the help... thank you, too CGB and jbd, it's all very appreciated. |
| 01:43.00 | JeffM2501 | but that would get too confusing |
| 01:43.05 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, hey you do a lot for us |
| 01:43.09 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:43.11 | JeffM2501 | so you deserve it |
| 01:43.16 | CBG | :) |
| 01:43.50 | L4m3r | seconded. |
| 01:43.57 | CBG | thirded. |
| 01:44.18 | JeffM2501 | the way I see it we "broke" that other machine |
| 01:44.26 | L4m3r | how so? |
| 01:44.32 | JeffM2501 | cus if he hadn't donated my.b.o to us he'd have had a spare |
| 01:44.39 | JeffM2501 | and not be in this mess |
| 01:45.16 | CBG | We broke it, we paid for it. |
| 01:45.23 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 01:45.40 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak or blast007 how do I tarball up an entire dir? |
| 01:45.52 | L4m3r | still, it was nice of you. He didn't ask for anything :) |
| 01:46.16 | JeffM2501 | I know his situation, so I know he needs it, he's just dosn't want to ask :) |
| 01:46.28 | JeffM2501 | so I made it so he didn't have to |
| 01:46.31 | L4m3r | I can't blame him for that |
| 01:46.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:46.47 | L4m3r | heh, yeah, you sure ded, lol |
| 01:46.50 | L4m3r | did* |
| 01:47.18 | JeffM2501 | I have a good job, so why not use that to help out someone who helps me |
| 01:47.34 | JeffM2501 | I think thats how brlcad feels about bzflag.bz as well |
| 01:47.35 | [dmp] | JeffM2501: tar cfz output.tgz dir/ |
| 01:48.01 | JeffM2501 | thank you [dmp] |
| 01:48.29 | L4m3r | if we ever go to Gladstone's again we'll all have to pay for you :P |
| 01:48.32 | [dmp] | dir can be one or more dir/files |
| 01:48.38 | CBG | meacan: sleeep! |
| 01:48.59 | JeffM2501 | well those appletinis are n't cheap :) |
| 01:49.09 | L4m3r | lol |
| 01:49.16 | JeffM2501 | and it's recursive [dmp] ? |
| 01:49.37 | L4m3r | ok, now I'm REALLY going to go eat. bbl. |
| 01:50.00 | [dmp] | yep, JeffM2501 |
| 01:50.08 | JeffM2501 | did this |
| 01:50.19 | [dmp] | CBG: brushing my teeth right now :) |
| 01:50.26 | JeffM2501 | sudo tar -cvf web.tgz /var/www/ |
| 01:50.33 | JeffM2501 | and it says it can't stat web.tgz |
| 01:50.40 | CBG | meacan: You better be! :P |
| 01:51.34 | [dmp] | JeffM2501: try to remove the minus |
| 01:52.02 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 01:52.06 | JeffM2501 | I guess it's doin something |
| 01:53.09 | JeffM2501 | then I'll have to go find all the bases of data |
| 01:55.06 | CBG | g'night meacan :) |
| 01:55.10 | JeffM2501 | thanks for the help |
| 01:57.41 | [dmp] | JeffM2501: oh btw, if you dont use z as a param, it wont be gzipped. (you will get a regular .tar). |
| 01:59.52 | JeffM2501 | ziped is good |
| 02:00.03 | JeffM2501 | cus I then have to download the beasty :) |
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| 02:02.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 02:03.46 | JeffM2501 | tomorow is gonna be fun "no the list server is not down.. you just can't see it" |
| 02:04.18 | bryjen | hmm? |
| 02:04.57 | JeffM2501 | we are moving off of nid's machine |
| 02:05.02 | JeffM2501 | he has to use it for paying stuff |
| 02:05.11 | JeffM2501 | another of his machines died |
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| 02:07.45 | JeffM2501 | ok the web tarball is copying to .bz |
| 02:08.55 | JeffM2501 | atachments will be disable don the forums till the move is done ( so we don't add more files ) |
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| 02:15.01 | romfis | hi |
| 02:15.05 | romfis | Jeff ? |
| 02:15.08 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 02:15.24 | romfis | go PM on IRC, please |
| 02:18.07 | RPG_ | hhm, did BZBB just get moved? |
| 02:18.40 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 02:18.46 | JeffM2501 | it's in the process of it |
| 02:18.56 | JeffM2501 | tonight and tomorow |
| 02:19.45 | RPG_ | so any |
| 02:20.02 | RPG_ | *so anything posted now may not make it over to the new installation? |
| 02:21.27 | bryjen | "explosions" ?! |
| 02:21.44 | brad2901 | lol |
| 02:22.07 | brad2901 | that was a joke I presume.. |
| 02:22.35 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:22.42 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, it will |
| 02:22.49 | JeffM2501 | I will shut down the boards before I move them |
| 02:26.47 | JeffM2501 | anyone know where bdotson is? |
| 02:27.41 | RPG_ | is his client propegating around the community? |
| 02:27.53 | JeffM2501 | he told me he'd make it non compatable before he put the binary up |
| 02:27.55 | JeffM2501 | he lied to me |
| 02:28.02 | JeffM2501 | so no more services for him |
| 02:28.16 | RPG_ | well a-delusion knows where he lives :) |
| 02:28.22 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 02:29.05 | JeffM2501 | tell him to go give him a kick for me |
| 02:29.36 | a-delusion | I_Died_once lives right down the road |
| 02:29.43 | JeffM2501 | web tarball is just under 2 gig |
| 02:29.50 | L4m3r | impressive. |
| 02:29.52 | RPG_ | with all the file attachments? |
| 02:29.57 | JeffM2501 | wana go ask him why he wants to ruin the game? |
| 02:30.01 | JeffM2501 | that's not just froums |
| 02:30.04 | JeffM2501 | that's the entire web dir |
| 02:30.10 | JeffM2501 | images, builds, etc... |
| 02:30.12 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: when do you think it bzbb will go down? |
| 02:30.21 | A_Meteorite | and since dns takes time what is the ip of the server? |
| 02:30.23 | L4m3r | bdotson's client is what exactly? a cheat client? |
| 02:30.23 | JeffM2501 | tonight or tomorow |
| 02:30.30 | brad2901 | ~dns bzflag.bz |
| 02:30.40 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 02:30.41 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, it's not even set up there yet |
| 02:30.46 | A_Meteorite | I know, but when it is |
| 02:30.48 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 02:30.50 | JeffM2501 | it will probably allways work as my.bzflag.bz |
| 02:30.52 | JeffM2501 | etc... |
| 02:31.09 | JeffM2501 | brlcad is at a movie |
| 02:31.11 | RPG_ | L4m3r: bdotson made a client with colord flags |
| 02:31.21 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, yes |
| 02:31.35 | L4m3r | ah. |
| 02:31.37 | JeffM2501 | any client that has the "mod" of "hide the build date" |
| 02:31.40 | JeffM2501 | that's a cheat client |
| 02:31.44 | JeffM2501 | we don't mind mods |
| 02:31.54 | JeffM2501 | but we ask them to use a new protocoll number |
| 02:31.59 | JeffM2501 | so binarys arn't compatable |
| 02:32.04 | JeffM2501 | he said he would make the change |
| 02:32.10 | JeffM2501 | and took down his binary |
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| 02:32.14 | L4m3r | you know, I was looking through the code and was amazed how easy it looked to do the flag mod thing. |
| 02:32.16 | JeffM2501 | but now he put them back up |
| 02:32.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah its' eays |
| 02:32.23 | JeffM2501 | easy |
| 02:32.27 | JeffM2501 | client has too much info |
| 02:32.32 | JeffM2501 | dosnt' anymore in 2.1 :) |
| 02:32.37 | L4m3r | :) |
| 02:32.38 | JeffM2501 | not even for identify :) |
| 02:32.43 | RPG_ | haha :) |
| 02:32.59 | bryjen | most (if not all) of the game used to be in the client |
| 02:33.01 | JeffM2501 | the server just tells you what the closest flag is, you don't know exactly what one it is |
| 02:33.18 | RPG_ | does the 2.1 bzfs take up a conseradable amount of CPU usage, then? |
| 02:33.18 | L4m3r | Nice. Very nice. |
| 02:34.07 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:34.12 | L4m3r | and fix that catching problem in the client while you're at it :P |
| 02:34.16 | JeffM2501 | computing the near flag is nothing |
| 02:34.50 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, all the server has to do is the same thing a client has to do. and the client spends 99.9% of it's time drawing |
| 02:35.14 | bryjen | and the server doesn't need to do _that_ |
| 02:35.15 | L4m3r | which is why it takes almost nothing minimized, eh? |
| 02:35.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:35.29 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 02:35.33 | JeffM2501 | tho it pauses when it's mini |
| 02:35.40 | JeffM2501 | and dosn't do much in the loop |
| 02:35.42 | L4m3r | unless you're on auto |
| 02:35.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:35.49 | JeffM2501 | then it's just sim time |
| 02:35.50 | romfis | bye, later all, i go bed, in austria 04.35 AM, uff :( |
| 02:36.03 | bryjen | good night, romfis |
| 02:36.04 | L4m3r | 'night. Sleep well, we all need it these days... |
| 02:36.06 | JeffM2501 | even with a server side state it's less time then a client |
| 02:36.11 | JeffM2501 | so it won't affect the server much at all |
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| 02:36.34 | JeffM2501 | it may go up a couple % but not much more |
| 02:36.45 | bryjen | good, then i won't need to upgrade my ancient machine to one that's just old ;) |
| 02:36.55 | L4m3r | lol |
| 02:36.55 | JeffM2501 | won't be that bad at all |
| 02:37.12 | JeffM2501 | he's back |
| 02:37.24 | JeffM2501 | 90% on the transfer :) |
| 02:37.45 | L4m3r | lol... |
| 02:39.35 | JeffM2501 | menotume, you still up? |
| 02:48.29 | menotume | ahhh |
| 02:48.32 | menotume | yeppers |
| 02:48.51 | menotume | just came BTK to get listserver running |
| 02:49.09 | JeffM2501 | you have a backup of the league db? |
| 02:49.15 | JeffM2501 | or should I make a new one and move it over? |
| 02:49.17 | menotume | err |
| 02:49.17 | brlcad | i have a backup of the apache config, putting the config in place for responding to bzflag.org |
| 02:49.29 | menotume | i have a script that will make on - one sec |
| 02:49.38 | JeffM2501 | well I can make one manualy |
| 02:49.43 | menotume | we moving to bzflag.bz ? |
| 02:49.45 | JeffM2501 | I just found your hidden config :) |
| 02:49.47 | JeffM2501 | menotume, yes |
| 02:49.50 | JeffM2501 | like now |
| 02:50.00 | JeffM2501 | nid needs the mybo machine for real work |
| 02:50.04 | JeffM2501 | cus he had a system fail |
| 02:50.12 | JeffM2501 | so we are gonna get off it |
| 02:50.20 | menotume | k |
| 02:50.36 | JeffM2501 | I made a tarball of the entire web dir and its' moved over to .bz and brlcad is setting it up |
| 02:50.52 | JeffM2501 | I'm just making sure I can get snapshots of all the databases |
| 02:50.53 | menotume | ok, i'll take car of league stuff - np |
| 02:51.11 | JeffM2501 | well we arn't gona move till we get with tim so he can move the domains. |
| 02:51.30 | brlcad | unfortunately I only have a few more minutes tonight before I have to zz, have to get up real early for practice |
| 02:51.36 | brlcad | but I should have apache config in place |
| 02:51.39 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 02:51.40 | menotume | well, then we need to move the data then :) |
| 02:51.49 | menotume | i changes hourly |
| 02:51.57 | JeffM2501 | menotume, I was gonna do a snapshot to test it first |
| 02:52.02 | menotume | k |
| 02:52.05 | JeffM2501 | then when it was time, do another for the final |
| 02:52.09 | menotume | gotya |
| 02:52.14 | JeffM2501 | and then put "we moved" pages in place of all the sites |
| 02:52.22 | JeffM2501 | so no new data would be added |
| 02:52.31 | menotume | ok, sending gzip to .bz |
| 02:52.34 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I don't think we will do the final move till tomroow |
| 02:52.57 | JeffM2501 | so if the configs are done I can set it up to test :) |
| 02:52.59 | brlcad | hoped/figured as much |
| 02:53.02 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:53.21 | JeffM2501 | I think nid was mostly woried that we'd have no place to go |
| 02:53.30 | RPG_ | where are we going now? |
| 02:53.31 | brlcad | if not, I'll be back bright and early about the time you wake up |
| 02:53.44 | JeffM2501 | I've had offers from about 5 people in the past 2 weeks to host the stuff |
| 02:53.55 | menotume | do i have access to web area ? |
| 02:54.00 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, depends how much I drink tonight |
| 02:54.18 | menotume | or, MAY i have access to league webroot :) |
| 02:56.39 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, that is one hella fat pipe you have |
| 02:56.55 | JeffM2501 | was doing 780k/s when moving the tarball :) |
| 02:59.00 | brlcad | menotume: yes |
| 02:59.13 | menotume | okies, thx :) |
| 02:59.16 | brlcad | at least you should, if you're talking about .bz |
| 02:59.42 | JeffM2501 | I'm sending tim a mail now so he knows what's up |
| 02:59.48 | JeffM2501 | now that all the beef is gone :) |
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| 03:05.09 | JeffM2501 | does stats use a db? |
| 03:05.26 | menotume | err, yes |
| 03:07.27 | JeffM2501 | so to me it looks like we have 4 datbases to move over, bb, bzfls, stats, and leauge |
| 03:08.44 | JeffM2501 | tho for bzfls all we need is structure, not data, since it'll just repop it'self |
| 03:13.13 | brlcad | okay, config should now be responding to my.bzflag.org, prefabs.bzflag.org, and images.bzflag.org |
| 03:13.19 | brlcad | just have to update dns |
| 03:13.55 | JeffM2501 | are there .bz versions of them too? |
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| 03:22.48 | brlcad | not yet |
| 03:24.21 | JeffM2501 | posted about the move on the mainpage and in 2.0 motd |
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| 03:25.08 | JeffM2501 | there she is |
| 03:27.49 | brad2901 | is anon cvs up to date now? |
| 03:28.23 | menotume | 400mg enough ? |
| 03:29.46 | JeffM2501 | ohh don't push him , let him sleep |
| 03:29.51 | menotume | hehe |
| 03:29.51 | JeffM2501 | we can finish it tomorow |
| 03:29.54 | menotume | yep |
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| 03:36.24 | brlcad | menotume: staying up isn't the problem |
| 03:36.29 | brlcad | i have to wake up at 5 though |
| 03:36.43 | menotume | go to bed ! |
| 03:36.54 | brlcad | okay, so there are .bz equivalents in place now, should be responding |
| 03:37.09 | menotume | 2 options ... go to bed, stay up all night and all day tomorrow |
| 03:37.42 | menotume | it's responding, but wrong stuff :) |
| 03:37.44 | brlcad | heh, i have to wake up at 5am for 3 hours of training |
| 03:37.52 | brlcad | rowing |
| 03:37.56 | menotume | ewww |
| 03:38.13 | brlcad | wrong stuff? |
| 03:38.19 | brlcad | db's arent in place yet |
| 03:38.27 | menotume | ahh, no, i got it |
| 03:38.28 | brlcad | shouldn't be wrong though |
| 03:38.36 | menotume | league.bzflag.bz went somewhere strange :) |
| 03:38.42 | menotume | ya, it looks right |
| 03:38.45 | brlcad | ah yeah |
| 03:38.49 | brlcad | didnt do league |
| 03:39.03 | brlcad | since league.bzflag.org doesn't exist |
| 03:39.06 | brlcad | can add that one later |
| 03:39.06 | menotume | don't need it, it's fine |
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| 05:03.36 | menotume | Happy Tax Day !! |
| 05:04.05 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 05:04.27 | L4m3r | I don't plan on filing since I haven't made any money this year... |
| 05:04.49 | A_Meteorite | can anyone tell me what the changes to bzfls.php and weblogin.php were? |
| 05:04.53 | A_Meteorite | that timriker made? |
| 05:05.00 | menotume | got me |
| 05:06.17 | menotume | i'll check for a commit |
| 05:08.33 | JeffM2501 | all the crap that people did to the live one and didn't check in :) |
| 05:08.38 | JeffM2501 | some ban stuff |
| 05:08.48 | JeffM2501 | dtr's mail notifiacion was there |
| 05:08.52 | JeffM2501 | some cleanup |
| 05:09.00 | JeffM2501 | and he changed the headers to force the connection closed |
| 05:09.15 | DTRemenak | I checked my pm notification in to cvs myself... |
| 05:09.28 | JeffM2501 | he said it wasn't there |
| 05:09.33 | JeffM2501 | he may not have looked that hard |
| 05:09.38 | DTRemenak | hrmph |
| 05:09.38 | JeffM2501 | or maybe somone blew it out by accecdent |
| 05:09.39 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:09.45 | DTRemenak | heh, that could be |
| 05:09.45 | JeffM2501 | and it was back in history |
| 05:09.50 | L4m3r | and DTR, it still pwns :D |
| 05:09.57 | DTRemenak | aww, thanks :) |
| 05:10.03 | DTRemenak | 'twas orange's idea |
| 05:10.13 | L4m3r | especially now, since, uh, theme97 PMs me, a lot... |
| 05:10.15 | menotume | yes, some logging stuff i put in branch a few months ago |
| 05:10.26 | JeffM2501 | we have some php issues, hopefully we can get brlcad to config our stuff to use php4 not 5, then we should be good to move |
| 05:10.36 | L4m3r | eek |
| 05:11.01 | L4m3r | it's weird, php 5 has been around a long time and a lot of hosts still don't seem to use it |
| 05:11.03 | DTRemenak | why don't we, ya know, fix the php to work in 5? |
| 05:11.16 | menotume | fix phpbb ? |
| 05:11.18 | menotume | heh |
| 05:11.21 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 05:11.25 | menotume | i'll look at the league code |
| 05:11.33 | menotume | looks like something to do with cookies |
| 05:11.34 | DTRemenak | "some stuff" => phpbb is not quite what I had in mind ;) |
| 05:11.47 | menotume | but, i won't change it if it makes it incompatible with php 4 |
| 05:11.59 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, have at it :) |
| 05:12.07 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 05:12.13 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.bz/bb/ |
| 05:12.17 | JeffM2501 | login and try to post :) |
| 05:12.39 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 05:13.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:13.40 | JeffM2501 | I'd rather just see if we can get on php4 for now |
| 05:13.47 | JeffM2501 | then look at why it don't work on 5 later ;) |
| 05:13.51 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: logged in fine |
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| 05:14.00 | menotume | try to post |
| 05:14.00 | JeffM2501 | loging in isn't the problem |
| 05:14.05 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 05:14.19 | A_Meteorite | I see bugs already |
| 05:14.30 | A_Meteorite | someone has brig. general twice |
| 05:14.33 | menotume | i have a feeling that can be fixed with a php.ini tweek |
| 05:15.00 | A_Meteorite | yeahm can't post |
| 05:15.24 | JeffM2501 | well at least we know we can move the data and get the list moved over |
| 05:16.12 | JeffM2501 | ibot message for brlcad seems the bzbb dosn't like php5, ether we need 4, or tweaks to the php.ini to make the sucker work, but other then that we are lookin good |
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| 05:24.23 | menotume | ibot message for brlcad and, we need a /var/log/bzfls dir, writable by apache |
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| 06:20.59 | noyb | has anyone built the latest on solaris x86? |
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| 06:55.41 | noyb | yes... answers noyb to his own question. blastwave.org did it back at 2.0.2 |
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| 09:00.03 | SoOEvil | hey |
| 09:02.14 | _Manu_ | SoOEvil the quick :/ |
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| 11:47.56 | orchid | hi Birdie |
| 11:48.10 | Birdie | howdy, been a long time |
| 11:48.41 | orchid | I was here last week :) |
| 11:49.52 | Birdie | well thats a long time;) |
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| 14:10.30 | CBG | I'm curious as to whether it would be possible to make bzfs automatically (on join) give a player the "power" of a flag, without actually giving them the flag (enabling them to then pick up another flag...). |
| 14:12.41 | CBG | I'd like everyone to have the effects of the Blindness flag on one of my servers, as soon as they join, but enable them to pick up other flags too, and not "drop" Blindness. Is it at all possible? |
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| 15:42.41 | orange_away | CBG: radar only :-) |
| 15:43.16 | CBG | orange_away: sounds like it won't work. |
| 15:44.00 | CBG | The best I can do is make all objects black, but then you'll still be able to see another tank if there is no object between you. |
| 15:44.28 | orange_away | CBG: fog |
| 15:44.51 | CBG | orange_away: players can turn that off in their options. |
| 15:45.17 | orange_away | hmmm |
| 15:45.37 | CBG | :( |
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| 15:47.35 | Mr_Molez | if u cant see out of the window why not just put 99999999999999 flags on the map so its impossible not to have it :P |
| 15:47.53 | Mr_Molez | oh wait u can see flags on radar :P |
| 15:48.36 | CBG | putting millions of flags on the map is not a particularly efficient method... |
| 15:48.50 | Mr_Molez | aint it always the truth |
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| 16:51.06 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: no i dont know him |
| 16:51.35 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 16:52.21 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, how was the rowing? |
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| 16:53.20 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: I thought he said he was going to make it not work with current bzfs's |
| 16:53.27 | JeffM2501 | he did |
| 16:53.37 | JeffM2501 | and he pulled it cus he was going to do that |
| 16:53.53 | JeffM2501 | but it's all back now, is compatable, AND has code to hide it's verison and build date |
| 16:54.09 | JeffM2501 | why would a legitemate mod need to hide it's build date? |
| 16:54.34 | Mr_Molez | nah it says build date hide for future features |
| 16:54.58 | JeffM2501 | even that, why would you WANT that as a feature unless it was made for public cheats? |
| 16:55.15 | Mr_Molez | he is not a very competent coder if he cant do that already |
| 16:55.31 | JeffM2501 | I think it's just time for him |
| 16:55.36 | JeffM2501 | but he lied to me |
| 16:55.53 | Mr_Molez | I emailed him a while ago |
| 16:55.55 | JeffM2501 | he said he would change it ( it's one line change ) but he hosted it anyway |
| 16:55.59 | Mr_Molez | 2 months ago i think |
| 16:56.05 | Mr_Molez | and asked him for the code for flag colours |
| 16:56.11 | JeffM2501 | so no more public sevecis for him |
| 16:56.15 | Mr_Molez | he said the devs told him he cant distribute the code |
| 16:56.26 | JeffM2501 | you won't be able to do flag colors in 2.1 |
| 16:56.34 | JeffM2501 | we asked that he didn't |
| 16:56.37 | JeffM2501 | he said OK |
| 16:56.47 | JeffM2501 | we can't prevent anyone from releaseing source and binarys |
| 16:56.51 | Mr_Molez | and i made up some convinsing lie, told him i was studing c++ at college and it would be a nice way for me to learn |
| 16:57.13 | Mr_Molez | do you have a clue who it is ? |
| 16:57.47 | JeffM2501 | it's brian dotdson :) |
| 16:58.04 | Mr_Molez | he uses that has his bz callsign ? |
| 16:58.09 | Mr_Molez | *as |
| 16:58.53 | JeffM2501 | there was a bdotdson forum name |
| 16:58.59 | JeffM2501 | know any others? |
| 17:00.10 | Mr_Molez | looks like he plays on crappy jumping servers. I dont really know many people other than people from ducati servers |
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| 17:05.27 | Mr_Molez | later all |
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| 17:07.51 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Is the no-shooting bug in 2.0.2 also exisiting in playing client for Mandriva on AMD64? |
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| 17:19.02 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/bzflag/AutoPilot.cxx): Fix autopilot crash when rogue autopilot picked up a team flag |
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| 17:25.25 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, probably |
| 17:28.32 | ToughShooter | aha, tnx |
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| 18:03.50 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (29 files in 11 dirs): merge from v2_0branch. v2_0branch tagged as merge-2_0-2_1-12. |
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| 18:52.19 | RPG_ | can file attachments be downloaded still on BZBB? |
| 18:53.49 | CBG | nope, don't think so. |
| 18:54.07 | RPG_ | did all attachments get deleted? |
| 18:54.25 | CBG | I think the attachment mod was just disabled. |
| 18:54.40 | RPG_ | darn... i need l4m3r's fairCTF |
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| 19:15.16 | brlcad | JeffM2501: exhausting |
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| 19:15.44 | JeffM2501 | was it fun tho? |
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| 19:16.39 | JeffM2501 | I've goten no responce from Tim |
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| 19:18.32 | brlcad | always fun |
| 19:18.37 | brlcad | oop |
| 19:18.42 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:18.55 | JeffM2501 | did you see the messages about php? |
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| 19:19.56 | brlcad | yeah, I did |
| 19:20.24 | brlcad | would be good to know exactly what the error is, it's not easy to get both 4 and 5 going simultaneously |
| 19:20.41 | brlcad | and 5 is needed for other sites |
| 19:20.49 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:21.10 | JeffM2501 | well my.bzflag.bz/bb/ login and try to post |
| 19:21.29 | brlcad | i imagine probably just making it less secure via the globals var thing |
| 19:23.53 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:25.14 | JeffM2501 | it was something about passing by refrence |
| 19:25.23 | blast007 | was it a warning, or an error? |
| 19:25.27 | JeffM2501 | error |
| 19:25.29 | JeffM2501 | would not post |
| 19:25.41 | JeffM2501 | login to the .bz one and post |
| 19:25.44 | JeffM2501 | you'll see it |
| 19:25.50 | blast007 | yeah, just did |
| 19:25.50 | JeffM2501 | it's just runing a copy of the data |
| 19:26.00 | JeffM2501 | so you can do whatever to it |
| 19:26.23 | brlcad | fixed the ranks |
| 19:26.31 | brlcad | bad symbolic link |
| 19:26.32 | JeffM2501 | perms? |
| 19:26.33 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:26.46 | JeffM2501 | personaly I don't care if we use 4 or 5 on the backend :) |
| 19:26.58 | JeffM2501 | I just don't know how much work it is to fix phpbb to work with 5 |
| 19:27.11 | blast007 | there also needs to be a symbolic link named index.php pointing to stats.php for http://my.bzflag.org/ |
| 19:27.15 | brlcad | haven't gotten that far yet |
| 19:27.16 | blast007 | er |
| 19:27.17 | blast007 | .bz |
| 19:27.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's hard to remember to type .bz :) |
| 19:27.40 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:28.17 | JeffM2501 | I am .. I am ... I am superman, and I know what's happening.. I am I am I am superman and I can do anything... |
| 19:28.18 | brlcad | muhaha ha ha. |
| 19:28.43 | blast007 | the strange thing is that I have a copy of phpBB running in PHP5 |
| 19:28.53 | JeffM2501 | ours may be older then yours |
| 19:28.58 | JeffM2501 | we only do security upates |
| 19:28.59 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:29.04 | JeffM2501 | feel like upgrading us? |
| 19:29.07 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 19:29.09 | blast007 | it was the one I was upgrading for our stuff |
| 19:29.20 | blast007 | then they came out with a new version.. |
| 19:29.23 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:29.42 | brlcad | would be a convenient time to upgrade |
| 19:29.49 | JeffM2501 | if we want to upgrade at the same time as the move that's fine. I just don't want to redo the mods |
| 19:30.03 | brlcad | might want to still get it working before an upgrade just so it doesn't mess with an upgrade |
| 19:30.49 | brlcad | here is already a index.php symlink, it's just not given precedence, fixing |
| 19:31.10 | blast007 | k |
| 19:31.27 | blast007 | I'm not even sure if that index.html is needed |
| 19:31.52 | blast007 | it's a form for the list server, but the form should be built into the bzfls.php itself |
| 19:32.34 | JeffM2501 | for SOME reason tim wants that as the default |
| 19:32.49 | JeffM2501 | I thought the form was in the php |
| 19:34.50 | brlcad | heh, there's an index.htm, index.html, and a index.php -> stats.php |
| 19:34.58 | brlcad | all three different of course |
| 19:37.17 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 19:37.51 | blast007 | I'll have to fix that when I redo the stats site "some day" |
| 19:44.55 | RPG_ | is silvercat.bzflag.org hosted at nid's servers or at their own |
| 19:47.25 | JeffM2501 | should be his own IIRC |
| 19:51.08 | DTRemenak | ~dns silvercat.bzflag.org |
| 19:51.12 | DTRemenak | ~dns my.bzflag.org |
| 19:51.16 | RPG_ | :) |
| 19:51.32 | DTRemenak | I'd say thier own |
| 19:51.59 | brlcad | ahh, that error is a coding issue |
| 19:52.04 | brlcad | pretty simple one |
| 19:52.43 | brlcad | from 5.0.4 to 5.0.5, php requires functions that take a reference to actually be variable |
| 19:53.26 | blast007 | what was passed by reference on that line? |
| 19:53.27 | brlcad | similar to what I had to keep fixing/changing in your c++ code JeffM2501 :) |
| 19:53.50 | brlcad | doesn't like things like foo(bar()); where foo() expects a reference |
| 19:54.04 | blast007 | ah |
| 19:54.31 | brlcad | simple fix is to assign it to a var, foo($blah=bar()); |
| 19:54.54 | brlcad | or fix foo to not require a reference since it apparently didn't need to be one |
| 19:55.12 | blast007 | or $blah=bar(); foo($blah); |
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| 19:57.40 | JeffM2501 | then I'm not the only one that expects refs to work :) |
| 19:58.00 | Legoguy | ok, how do i make bzflag dump core when it crashes? |
| 19:58.23 | JeffM2501 | use a debuger |
| 19:58.35 | Legoguy | so it's an option to, say, gdb then |
| 19:58.39 | Legoguy | ok, ill take it from there |
| 19:58.41 | Legoguy | :P |
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| 20:00.48 | Legoguy | would it perhaps be the -write option i'm looking for :/ |
| 20:01.03 | brlcad | with 6.5 billion people, I doubt any of us are the only ones for much of anything :) |
| 20:01.34 | JeffM2501 | remember, if your one in a million there are 6500 of you :) |
| 20:03.44 | menotume | brlcad: there is an issue in the league code too |
| 20:03.51 | menotume | something to do with sessions |
| 20:04.19 | menotume | i've been playing with it, not sure if i can fix it today though :( |
| 20:05.40 | JeffM2501 | well we can't move anything till we hear from Tim |
| 20:05.50 | blast007 | brad2901 just checked port 81 on .bz, and it doesn't work |
| 20:06.10 | JeffM2501 | wonder what it woudl take to get tim to move the DNS host to a dedicated DNS service, like no-ip.com |
| 20:07.03 | menotume | $$ ? |
| 20:07.10 | JeffM2501 | it's 25$ a year |
| 20:07.13 | JeffM2501 | I'd pay forthat |
| 20:07.16 | menotume | a miricle ? |
| 20:07.28 | JeffM2501 | or a baseball bat :) |
| 20:07.35 | menotume | a squad of tough guys to knock on his door ? |
| 20:07.40 | menotume | :) |
| 20:09.01 | JeffM2501 | well I had asked him earlyer this week if he'd be around to do a DNS swap for images.bzflag.org and he said he would be |
| 20:09.08 | JeffM2501 | then I sent him an e-mail last night |
| 20:09.15 | JeffM2501 | about the current situation |
| 20:09.26 | menotume | list server is slow |
| 20:09.26 | brlcad | fixed the submission problem |
| 20:09.41 | brlcad | though now it'll hang when trying to send the e-mail, working on that now |
| 20:09.47 | brlcad | probably affects leaguetoo |
| 20:09.57 | menotume | i don't use smtp yet |
| 20:10.00 | JeffM2501 | is localhost the smtp for that machine? |
| 20:10.16 | blast007 | http://bz.porteighty.org/ (still working on this) |
| 20:10.42 | brlcad | blast007: cute |
| 20:10.58 | blast007 | I tried to duplicate the current site as close as possible, but without tables ;) |
| 20:11.04 | blast007 | tables are evil |
| 20:11.12 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:11.16 | brlcad | so that's all css'd |
| 20:11.24 | blast007 | yup |
| 20:11.34 | brlcad | can you apply zen garden templates to it? :) |
| 20:11.42 | blast007 | lol |
| 20:11.48 | brlcad | that would be sweet |
| 20:12.09 | blast007 | initially I had the navigation actually appear after the content, to help with search engine results, but IE had a fit with the absolution positioning |
| 20:12.32 | JeffM2501 | feel free to change the layout if needed |
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| 20:24.22 | brlcad | blast007: screenshot of what it should look like? |
| 20:24.34 | bz92 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.11 | blast007 | brlcad: sure, 1 sec |
| 20:26.29 | blast007 | http://bz.porteighty.org/screenshot.png |
| 20:27.32 | brlcad | cool, mostly identical |
| 20:27.46 | brlcad | though my bullets look better iidssm |
| 20:27.49 | blast007 | which browser are you testing? |
| 20:27.53 | brlcad | safari |
| 20:27.57 | blast007 | ah, k |
| 20:28.26 | brlcad | onlly other diff is the font |
| 20:28.49 | blast007 | it's gonna use the browser default right now, since I didn't specify a font family to use |
| 20:38.16 | bz92 | Server question..I've started a public server, I can see the board but cant access it.. port 5154 is open and forwarded through my firewall. but no one can get on the board.Any ideas? |
| 20:38.46 | JeffM2501 | did you do udp and tcP? |
| 20:39.42 | blast007 | both ports appear to be open |
| 20:39.47 | blast007 | is the server running right now? |
| 20:40.05 | JeffM2501 | and you routed them back from your external IP to your servers LAN Ip? |
| 20:40.09 | JeffM2501 | on your router |
| 20:40.21 | bz92 | yes i did |
| 20:40.27 | blast007 | ~bzfquery 70.66.56.202 |
| 20:40.40 | blast007 | seems to work to me |
| 20:40.43 | bz92 | yes island-imaging.com |
| 20:40.46 | JeffM2501 | if ibot can get ya then it's not a routring problem |
| 20:40.50 | JeffM2501 | could be http proxy |
| 20:40.57 | JeffM2501 | for the list |
| 20:41.05 | JeffM2501 | you doing -pubicaddr ? |
| 20:43.31 | bz92 | i can access it on server "localhost", but not on Island-imaging.com |
| 20:44.10 | JeffM2501 | what is the full domain for the server? |
| 20:45.12 | bz92 | i run a webserver on the same netwrk with that domain name. Could this be a problem? |
| 20:45.16 | blast007 | well, I got in..sorta |
| 20:45.26 | blast007 | couldn't spawn, didn't get the server version or message |
| 20:45.36 | blast007 | I saw the map and the flags though |
| 20:45.50 | JeffM2501 | so you saw the TCP stuff |
| 20:45.53 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:46.15 | blast007 | 5154/tcp open unknown |
| 20:46.16 | blast007 | 5154/udp open|filtered unknown |
| 20:46.27 | blast007 | the UDP might not be forwarded properly |
| 20:46.35 | JeffM2501 | or may be blocked coming back |
| 20:46.45 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:49.20 | bz92 | I'll try turning off the webserver box and see if that changes anything |
| 21:08.01 | menotume | i think it changed something :P |
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| 22:35.51 | im_fine_u | hello |
| 22:38.21 | im_fine_u | ;) |
| 22:41.17 | im_fine_u | :( |
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| 23:01.11 | brlcad | For those that subscribe, BZFlag is talked about in the current publication of Linux Journal |
| 23:01.25 | blast007 | neat :) |
| 23:01.44 | brlcad | In a column by Marcel Gagn, May 2006 issue: "Cooking with Linux - The Virtual Streets of $HOME" |
| 23:01.55 | brlcad | about half a page |
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