| 00:00.24 | JeffM2501 | I may be the person here with the oldest code |
| 00:00.30 | brlcad | thanks |
| 00:00.39 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, the server probably shouldnt do to much by default as far as thats concerned, but it should be in plugins |
| 00:00.49 | Gnurdux | btw, maybe plugins should be able to do CustomWorld stuff |
| 00:00.50 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, the server has to do it all |
| 00:00.57 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, huh? |
| 00:01.03 | JeffM2501 | plugins ARE the server |
| 00:01.05 | brlcad | Chestal: you started what year? |
| 00:01.08 | Gnurdux | i suppose |
| 00:01.23 | JeffM2501 | plugins can read custom map objects right now |
| 00:01.29 | Gnurdux | oh, cool |
| 00:01.35 | Gnurdux | in 2.0.x? |
| 00:02.10 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:03.21 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/projects/upload/files/512x384.png |
| 00:03.48 | CBG | Saturos: great! I prefer this one even more. :) |
| 00:04.24 | Saturos | I wonder if the tank should be red when a red icon is placed somewhere in the open space. |
| 00:04.31 | Saturos | might match better than red/blue |
| 00:06.06 | brlcad | Saturos: not bad.. though it'll have icon repetition |
| 00:06.41 | Saturos | the typo looks too skinny without the icon |
| 00:06.45 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, another cool idea: server specified teams |
| 00:06.53 | brlcad | and still think it needs to say "drag to apps" and have your name somewhere in there |
| 00:06.57 | Gnurdux | so a server could have 6 teams, if i supplied textures |
| 00:07.01 | Gnurdux | *it |
| 00:07.19 | Saturos | brlcad: it actually says "drag to apps"? |
| 00:07.22 | Saturos | lol |
| 00:07.40 | brlcad | Saturos: you saw the screenshot |
| 00:07.50 | Saturos | brlcad: I thought you put that text in your screenshot to explain to me what it does |
| 00:07.51 | brlcad | that is the extent of the installation instructions |
| 00:07.59 | brlcad | no, it says that |
| 00:08.05 | brlcad | common macism |
| 00:08.09 | Saturos | okay, got that |
| 00:08.21 | brlcad | doesn't have to look exactly like that of course |
| 00:08.23 | Saturos | it would be useful to know where it places the icon |
| 00:08.32 | brlcad | that was just a quick-contrast way to overlay over a random screenshot |
| 00:08.40 | Gnurdux | Saturos, how do i unregister from bzcontest |
| 00:08.49 | Saturos | By telling me. :) |
| 00:09.00 | Gnurdux | ok unregister me from bzcontest please |
| 00:09.09 | Saturos | ok... don't like it? |
| 00:09.16 | brlcad | Saturos: I can have it go into one of the four corners easily enough |
| 00:09.16 | Gnurdux | i like it |
| 00:09.18 | Gnurdux | too hard for me |
| 00:09.30 | brlcad | into the corner it's already in being the easiest.. ;) |
| 00:09.40 | brlcad | but not a big deal for any of them |
| 00:10.35 | Saturos | ok... I'll put "drag to apps" in it. |
| 00:10.35 | Gnurdux | brlcad, were you the one who made RandomSpawnPoliciy |
| 00:10.36 | brlcad | Saturos: maybe a combo of 24 for the logo and the tank |
| 00:10.59 | brlcad | Gnurdux: you were here |
| 00:11.05 | Saturos | Which sizes do you want? The bigger one? |
| 00:11.10 | Gnurdux | i know but i have a short memory |
| 00:11.19 | brlcad | Saturos: that's up to you, whatever works |
| 00:11.38 | brlcad | Gnurdux: yes |
| 00:12.15 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, I plan on spliting team from color |
| 00:12.17 | brlcad | Saturos: something like 22, would work too with the 3-4 tanks pointing at the icon in the corner |
| 00:12.35 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, even so i think teams should not be fixed |
| 00:12.54 | Gnurdux | like there was a LouMan map that would be great if it was 6 teams |
| 00:12.54 | JeffM2501 | there is a lot of stuff that is related to teams |
| 00:13.05 | Gnurdux | oh, and map shapes should be supported too |
| 00:13.07 | JeffM2501 | they will probably stay an enumeration |
| 00:13.12 | Gnurdux | like this map was hexagonal |
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| 00:13.24 | JeffM2501 | can't make the game TOO complex |
| 00:13.35 | JeffM2501 | but once it's all split it would not be hard to expand it |
| 00:13.35 | A_Meteorite | hey all |
| 00:13.51 | CBG | hey A_Meteorite |
| 00:16.10 | JeffM2501 | hmmmmm, wonder if I should make machine gun into it's own shottype |
| 00:16.23 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, no reason to |
| 00:16.31 | JeffM2501 | if a base tank had MG, then picked up laser, you'd think it would not have the MG range |
| 00:16.34 | Gnurdux | it should just have a different speed attribute |
| 00:16.46 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, it's mutulay exclusive with other shot types |
| 00:16.50 | JeffM2501 | aka you can't have short lazer |
| 00:16.53 | JeffM2501 | or short GM |
| 00:16.55 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, it doesnt have to be |
| 00:17.09 | JeffM2501 | I think I'l do both |
| 00:17.17 | JeffM2501 | so it's explicid |
| 00:17.23 | Gnurdux | but thats sort of lame |
| 00:17.29 | Gnurdux | what about Rapid Fire? |
| 00:17.30 | JeffM2501 | it may be desired |
| 00:17.34 | JeffM2501 | same thing |
| 00:17.35 | Gnurdux | should that have its own shot type? |
| 00:17.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:17.46 | JeffM2501 | since you don't want rapid fire laser |
| 00:17.51 | Gnurdux | but thats giving prejudice to the existing flags |
| 00:17.56 | Gnurdux | i dont see why not |
| 00:18.04 | JeffM2501 | if I do both, then the server can define it ether way |
| 00:18.22 | JeffM2501 | and define a "rapid fire laser" flag |
| 00:18.32 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 00:19.09 | JeffM2501 | the atributes work on a "stack" kind of thing |
| 00:19.18 | JeffM2501 | so they have to be combined logicaly |
| 00:19.24 | JeffM2501 | and I can't break any existing behavor |
| 00:19.35 | JeffM2501 | just having MG dosn't mean all your shots are short range |
| 00:20.04 | Gnurdux | it would be awesome is shot types were bools |
| 00:20.06 | Gnurdux | each one of them |
| 00:20.15 | Gnurdux | so you could make Guided Super Laser |
| 00:20.16 | JeffM2501 | they don't allways combine well |
| 00:20.23 | JeffM2501 | how would you "guide" a laser? |
| 00:20.29 | Gnurdux | it goes in a curve |
| 00:20.30 | Gnurdux | like a gm |
| 00:20.42 | JeffM2501 | that's not a behavor of lasers |
| 00:21.09 | Gnurdux | neither is going upwards etc when ShotKeepVerticalVelocity is on |
| 00:21.19 | Gnurdux | they go at essentially infinite seeps |
| 00:21.21 | Gnurdux | speeds |
| 00:21.32 | Gnurdux | so they wont go up when you are going up |
| 00:21.59 | JeffM2501 | I mean I don't want to redo the entire shot strats for laser |
| 00:22.03 | JeffM2501 | just do do atributes |
| 00:22.16 | Gnurdux | well that vertical laser thing bothers me |
| 00:22.23 | Gnurdux | they should keep vertical velocity |
| 00:22.33 | Gnurdux | not try to generate an angle |
| 00:22.36 | JeffM2501 | why? it's light, it's not going to pick up your momentum |
| 00:22.40 | Gnurdux | i mean fast shots shouldnt go either |
| 00:22.42 | JeffM2501 | it's not a physical thing |
| 00:23.27 | JeffM2501 | laser needs to be redone grahicaly anyway |
| 00:23.33 | JeffM2501 | but tha'ts a difrent project |
| 00:23.46 | JeffM2501 | you can't combine all projects into one, or you'll never get done |
| 00:24.08 | Gnurdux | also, there should be a shotsHaveGravity option |
| 00:24.19 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:24.21 | Gnurdux | and if the server controls shots, client doesnt even need to know a thing about it |
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| 00:24.24 | JeffM2501 | that would make it a difrent game |
| 00:24.29 | JeffM2501 | since you can't Aim up to lob |
| 00:24.48 | Gnurdux | so shotsKeepVerticalVelocity makes sense then? |
| 00:25.06 | JeffM2501 | it provides a tricky way to move shots "up" |
| 00:25.11 | JeffM2501 | some people like it |
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| 00:29.20 | Saturos | its rather nice to throw shots at the ground with wings |
| 00:29.40 | Saturos | never hit a target that way but it is fun :) |
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| 00:36.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's the reason we turned it on, to let people hit wings or use shots with wings |
| 00:39.26 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, also, polls should be doable for any command |
| 00:39.44 | Gnurdux | or maybe not |
| 00:39.59 | Saturos | hehehe... http://saturos.de/projects/upload/files/512x384.png |
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| 00:43.14 | lan56 | niice new logo on bzbb btw |
| 00:44.16 | lan56 | a medieval style based on my interpretation |
| 00:46.03 | Saturos | oh, you already put it into the forums... |
| 00:50.53 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, what does that have to do with flag atributes? |
| 00:51.03 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, nothing |
| 00:51.06 | Gnurdux | at all |
| 00:51.58 | Saturos | brlcad: What do you think? http://saturos.de/projects/upload/files/512x384.png |
| 00:57.37 | CBG | Saturos: awesome! :D |
| 00:57.48 | Saturos | :D |
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| 01:05.03 | Saturos | Alright, I'll go sleeping now. Bye guys! Make sure brlcad or whoever is responsible for the .dmg gets my image. :) |
| 01:05.36 | JeffM2501 | he'll see it |
| 01:05.53 | JeffM2501 | heh pink tanks |
| 01:13.32 | JeffM2501 | ahh and so it begins |
| 01:13.44 | JeffM2501 | must be midnight GMT |
| 01:13.49 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:14.09 | JeffM2501 | that's some dam bright pink |
| 01:14.11 | brlcad | not bad |
| 01:19.05 | CBG | It's 1:20AM GMT. |
| 01:19.11 | CBG | 2:20GMT in the UK. |
| 01:19.33 | CBG | 2:20AM* in the UK. |
| 01:20.43 | JeffM2501 | then it is time for 4/1/06 |
| 01:21.26 | CBG | Yep. :) |
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| 01:38.02 | CBG | at least you determined that much ;) |
| 01:38.40 | JeffM2501 | the logic gets recursive |
| 01:40.26 | brlcad | heh /. |
| 01:41.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:42.37 | JeffM2501 | I hope I got this right |
| 01:42.58 | JeffM2501 | every state is a set of effects that apply to the tank, and a set of effects that are applied to the generated shot |
| 01:43.33 | JeffM2501 | then built up from the base set -> locale set -> list of shots that have hit you -> the flag you have. |
| 01:44.32 | JeffM2501 | damn are there a lot of effects |
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| 03:05.32 | BenUrban | hey is sf dev cvs back up? |
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| 03:06.14 | BenUrban | guess not |
| 03:06.52 | brlcad | BenUrban: nope |
| 03:07.38 | BenUrban | how do you manage that? |
| 03:07.45 | BenUrban | watch? |
| 03:08.19 | BenUrban | while? |
| 03:09.02 | brlcad | while |
| 03:09.16 | BenUrban | ah |
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| 04:02.43 | JeffM2501 | anyone know what ports besides 6667 freenode uses? |
| 04:02.51 | JeffM2501 | irc keeps killing my modem at home |
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| 04:04.35 | Atomica | Can/Did anyone read my post about "Error connecting to server..."? |
| 04:05.08 | Atomica | it's in general server discussion |
| 04:05.54 | JeffM2501 | do you get any errors when you start the server with you rmap? |
| 04:06.35 | Atomica | I use a config based off of my other server (CTF MAZE [not my map]) |
| 04:06.44 | Atomica | and just used my map and it doesn't work |
| 04:06.49 | Atomica | but it works for any other map |
| 04:06.54 | JeffM2501 | again.. do you get any errors when you use your map |
| 04:07.06 | JeffM2501 | I don't care where your config came from |
| 04:07.09 | Atomica | uhh, I don't understand that |
| 04:07.19 | Atomica | like on BZFS? |
| 04:07.20 | JeffM2501 | does the server generate any errors |
| 04:07.21 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 04:07.25 | JeffM2501 | that would be "the server" |
| 04:07.28 | Atomica | oh! no |
| 04:07.36 | JeffM2501 | how many -d s do you have? |
| 04:07.37 | Atomica | sorry |
| 04:07.40 | Atomica | none |
| 04:07.49 | JeffM2501 | then you won't see errors |
| 04:07.53 | JeffM2501 | add in 3 of them |
| 04:07.55 | Atomica | oh |
| 04:07.55 | JeffM2501 | and try again |
| 04:07.58 | JeffM2501 | look for errors |
| 04:07.59 | Atomica | ok |
| 04:09.37 | Atomica | ok, what do I get from this (-ddd)? |
| 04:09.44 | Atomica | I have the output |
| 04:10.17 | JeffM2501 | are there arny errors? |
| 04:10.29 | Atomica | it doesn't say ERROR |
| 04:10.45 | JeffM2501 | did you try to connect ? |
| 04:10.50 | Atomica | yes |
| 04:10.59 | Atomica | 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:11.03 | JeffM2501 | check for any wierd messages |
| 04:11.05 | JeffM2501 | or warnings |
| 04:11.09 | Atomica | uhh |
| 04:11.17 | Atomica | bzadmin just exits |
| 04:11.30 | Atomica | ok |
| 04:11.44 | Atomica | it just says error connecting to server. |
| 04:11.54 | Atomica | and nothing in bzfs |
| 04:12.20 | blast007 | and the bzflag server is running on the same machine as bzadmin? ;) |
| 04:12.42 | Atomica | yes |
| 04:12.51 | blast007 | are you connecting to the right port? |
| 04:12.56 | Atomica | yes |
| 04:14.04 | JeffM2501 | well then start taking things out of your map till you can connect |
| 04:14.12 | JeffM2501 | the thing you remove right before that happens is the bad thing in your map |
| 04:15.52 | Atomica | count texture be the prblem? |
| 04:15.53 | JeffM2501 | bbiab gotta finish setting up the froum autoban system |
| 04:16.00 | Atomica | ok |
| 04:16.04 | JeffM2501 | and make sure it's comaring to the right logs |
| 04:16.08 | JeffM2501 | I don't know what it could be |
| 04:16.12 | JeffM2501 | you'll have to try and see |
| 04:19.06 | JeffM2501 | and please don't post silly follow up messages |
| 04:19.16 | JeffM2501 | if noone as answered then they just haven't |
| 04:20.05 | Atomica | oh oops |
| 04:20.14 | Atomica | sorry |
| 04:20.41 | Atomica | So you deleted both? (Just to make sure Im not insane) |
| 04:20.48 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 04:20.53 | Atomica | oh phew |
| 04:20.54 | JeffM2501 | they did not add anything to the thread |
| 04:20.55 | brlcad | JeffM2501: 6666 |
| 04:21.02 | JeffM2501 | hmm I may try thgat |
| 04:21.14 | Atomica | huh? |
| 04:30.22 | JeffM2501 | ahh good the automated fourm banning system is workining quite well from the logs you gave me brlcad |
| 04:30.37 | JeffM2501 | it is flaging most of the cheaters |
| 04:30.57 | JeffM2501 | it'll be nice to have 2.0.6 free of all those bastards |
| 04:32.02 | blast007 | haha, sweet :) |
| 04:32.48 | JeffM2501 | the hardware based client ID that was snuck into 2.0.4 realy hellped flag them |
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| 04:46.00 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch || if you were banned, then you should not have cheated |
| 04:46.53 | JeffM2501 | hmm so far 6666 seems to work a lot better |
| 04:46.58 | JeffM2501 | tho now I hate MIRC |
| 04:48.23 | orchid | omg ponies! |
| 04:48.39 | JeffM2501 | girls realy don't like it THAT pink do they? |
| 04:48.50 | orchid | nope |
| 04:48.53 | JeffM2501 | ok good |
| 04:48.56 | JeffM2501 | it hurts my eyes |
| 04:48.57 | orchid | but I like it better than the green |
| 04:49.08 | JeffM2501 | a subtle blue could be good for them |
| 04:49.17 | JeffM2501 | like a desaturated cobalt |
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| 04:52.16 | JeffM2501 | that'll get ya |
| 04:52.22 | JeffM2501 | dirty cheaters |
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| 05:01.39 | RPG_ | hahahaa |
| 05:01.42 | RPG_ | HAHAHHA |
| 05:01.51 | RPG_ | literally, ROFL |
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| 05:03.12 | purple_cow | RPG_: dude, calm down |
| 05:03.35 | RPG_ | that's GOOD |
| 05:03.37 | JeffM2501 | RPG_ please do not spam our channel |
| 05:03.48 | JeffM2501 | or you will be removed |
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| 05:14.53 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: you must be a masochist |
| 05:16.03 | JeffM2501 | pardon? |
| 05:16.51 | JeffM2501 | is that the one where I like spankings? |
| 05:17.23 | TheRedBaron | if thats your fetish :) |
| 05:17.31 | JeffM2501 | why do you say I am one? |
| 05:18.45 | TheRedBaron | oh, its obvious |
| 05:19.36 | JeffM2501 | I don't get you? |
| 05:21.03 | TheRedBaron | sadly, not many people do |
| 05:21.14 | TheRedBaron | I thinks its my intake of Mountain Dew |
| 05:21.32 | JeffM2501 | you should try the caffene inhaler |
| 05:22.03 | L4m3r | or the caffeinated soap |
| 05:22.20 | JeffM2501 | the soap didn't do anything for me |
| 05:22.27 | JeffM2501 | nor for Melissa |
| 05:22.40 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:23.00 | L4m3r | they say it only wakes you up because the caffeine "flakes" poke you |
| 05:23.16 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 05:23.59 | brlcad | heh |
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| 06:04.22 | TheRedBaron | sweet insanity |
| 06:24.47 | menotume | woo hoo - CVS is working |
| 06:25.31 | JeffM2501 | great |
| 06:25.45 | JeffM2501 | did they say what busted? |
| 06:25.47 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 06:25.51 | menotume | rofl |
| 06:26.34 | JeffM2501 | just trying to help ya out man :) |
| 06:26.55 | menotume | dunno if anyone is awake . |
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| 06:37.15 | TheRedBaron | wee slipt |
| 06:37.15 | L4m3r | Jeff... lol |
| 06:37.16 | L4m3r | uh... we have a prank map, and uh... Pumpernickel didn't quite get it. we were sorta toying with him and then he left before we could explain the joke. |
| 06:37.16 | L4m3r | so, please ignore any bug reports from him in the next day or so :x whoops |
| 06:37.28 | TheRedBaron | hefty net split there... |
| 06:38.25 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 07:29.18 | TheRedBaron | i just saw... looks nice |
| 07:30.00 | QBeep | I like the theme. |
| 07:30.16 | QBeep | By the way, what is the bandwidth that BZBB is working with? |
| 07:30.45 | JeffM2501 | 100megs |
| 07:31.20 | QBeep | If I were to mirror new beta releases on my server would it be at all helpful? |
| 07:31.29 | JeffM2501 | it's not bandwith |
| 07:31.32 | JeffM2501 | it's server CPU |
| 07:31.37 | QBeep | Oh... OK |
| 07:31.39 | JeffM2501 | it'll be taken care of shortly |
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| 07:31.48 | JeffM2501 | we also have bzflag.bz as a host as well |
| 07:31.52 | QBeep | I see. |
| 07:31.52 | JeffM2501 | but thanks for the offer |
| 07:38.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah gray defenatly works better with that logo |
| 07:43.00 | JeffM2501 | saturos is going to be suprised that his art is all over the froums now :) |
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| 07:48.11 | TheRedBaron | its some good art |
| 07:49.13 | JeffM2501 | he is gonna make a damn fine graphic designer when he gets outa school |
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| 08:44.35 | Chestal | brlcad: hmm, not sure. Was when the fx versions were around, 1.7e0/e2 time I guess |
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| 09:20.46 | Deepa | tim :O |
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| 11:37.06 | Mr_Molez | eerrrr what's up folks |
| 11:37.15 | A_Meteorite | nothing |
| 11:37.22 | A_Meteorite | waiting for 2.0.6 to be released |
| 11:37.35 | Mr_Molez | sweet |
| 11:37.45 | Mr_Molez | not an april fools then ;) |
| 11:37.53 | A_Meteorite | I hope not |
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| 11:38.07 | A_Meteorite | I just heard that it was going to be released on Saturday |
| 11:38.30 | Mr_Molez | The cvs has been down. I think that may delay the release :P |
| 11:38.36 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 11:38.42 | Mr_Molez | then again, whats new :) |
| 11:38.52 | A_Meteorite | CVS is ALWAYS down |
| 11:38.55 | A_Meteorite | not sure why though... |
| 11:40.38 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: I love you ! |
| 11:40.44 | A_Meteorite | ? |
| 11:40.50 | Mr_Molez | april fools ofcourse :| |
| 11:40.56 | A_Meteorite | oh.. |
| 11:41.18 | A_Meteorite | I was like, "wtf"? |
| 11:41.41 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: If you knew me better you wouldn't be, i say it to everyone :) |
| 11:42.03 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 11:42.20 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorbite 11 points... aww You should have inside knowledge :) |
| 11:42.31 | A_Meteorite | well, see... |
| 11:42.37 | A_Meteorite | I answered the server name PERFECTLY |
| 11:42.40 | A_Meteorite | and I get two points |
| 11:42.43 | A_Meteorite | I don't know why |
| 11:42.50 | Mr_Molez | the thing is |
| 11:42.56 | Mr_Molez | did uasy htf ? |
| 11:42.58 | Mr_Molez | *say |
| 11:43.04 | A_Meteorite | no... |
| 11:43.11 | Mr_Molez | well.. if u look on the pic |
| 11:43.22 | A_Meteorite | O_o |
| 11:47.34 | Mr_Molez | blah I aint helping u :P |
| 11:47.40 | A_Meteorite | ok |
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| 12:36.26 | giggsey | When I try to play BZFlag in Linux, it is laggy, it takes a bit for the menu's (2 seconds after I push the button), and game play is unbearable - However, in Windows, it is fine |
| 12:36.42 | A_Meteorite | video card? |
| 12:36.47 | A_Meteorite | you might need to get drivers |
| 12:36.53 | giggsey | A relatively old one |
| 12:37.01 | A_Meteorite | well, if it works fine in Windows... |
| 12:37.05 | giggsey | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 15) |
| 12:37.10 | A_Meteorite | yikes |
| 12:37.21 | A_Meteorite | that IS old |
| 12:37.26 | giggsey | ^_^ |
| 12:37.36 | giggsey | but I can play using high-detail in Windows with it |
| 12:37.44 | A_Meteorite | you may want to see if there are some drivers for it, beyond that I can only guess maybe bringing down the settings |
| 12:37.45 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 12:37.57 | giggsey | its on the lowest settings in Linux :P |
| 12:38.01 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 12:38.04 | A_Meteorite | resolution? |
| 12:38.07 | A_Meteorite | bit depth? |
| 12:38.17 | A_Meteorite | options -> change video format (I think) |
| 12:38.31 | A_Meteorite | sometimes drivers in Linux are sketchy... at best |
| 12:38.44 | A_Meteorite | usually Nvidia cards are pretty good though |
| 12:39.16 | giggsey | I've found a driver for it |
| 12:39.25 | A_Meteorite | just now? |
| 12:39.27 | A_Meteorite | wow |
| 12:39.36 | giggsey | yeah# |
| 12:39.46 | A_Meteorite | well, I would give that a go :) |
| 12:40.42 | A_Meteorite | ahh, yes |
| 12:40.44 | A_Meteorite | here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8178.html |
| 12:41.13 | A_Meteorite | it said Riva |
| 12:42.33 | giggsey | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.34 | giggsey | meh |
| 12:42.41 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 12:43.10 | giggsey | I guess I'll have to kill X :( |
| 12:43.13 | A_Meteorite | gotta kill x and install from the good 'ol command line |
| 12:43.16 | A_Meteorite | lol! |
| 12:43.19 | giggsey | YAY :D |
| 12:45.02 | A_Meteorite | bbl |
| 12:47.15 | CBG | Gee, trust "A Heart Attack" to go around the whole forum saying "Oh, it was a joke!!" and "NICE APRIL FOOLS JOKE"... ... :/ |
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| 13:44.30 | Birdie | ehm i cant join any bzflag server:( |
| 13:44.42 | Birdie | i had 2.0.3, just upgraded to 2.0.4 |
| 13:44.47 | Birdie | i can select servers |
| 13:44.50 | Birdie | but if try to connect |
| 13:45.00 | Birdie | it says "trying to connect" but it isnt trying at all |
| 13:45.19 | Gnurdux | Birdie, check the forums |
| 13:45.24 | Gnurdux | that might tell you why |
| 13:46.28 | Birdie | oh server down |
| 13:46.51 | Gnurdux | Birdie, check the forums |
| 13:47.27 | Birdie | i did..and its down |
| 13:47.36 | blast007 | hmm |
| 13:47.57 | Gnurdux | Birdie, you dont see something like: You have been banned from this forum. |
| 13:47.57 | Gnurdux | Please contact the webmaster or board administrators for more information. |
| 13:47.59 | blast007 | th bzbb? |
| 13:48.04 | blast007 | the* |
| 13:48.09 | Birdie | yea i cant go to it |
| 13:48.13 | Gnurdux | 2.0.4 has been catching cheaters |
| 13:48.17 | Gnurdux | it must have caught you |
| 13:48.37 | Birdie | i dont see anything at all.. |
| 13:48.37 | Gnurdux | hmmm, wierd |
| 13:48.44 | Birdie | i just cant visit bzbb |
| 13:48.57 | Gnurdux | does it say you are banned? |
| 13:49.03 | blast007 | no |
| 13:49.05 | Birdie | is why i said that server from bzbb might be down? |
| 13:49.06 | Gnurdux | my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 13:49.16 | Birdie | i read those posts from the banning allready today.. |
| 13:49.30 | Gnurdux | Birdie, it was an april fools joke though |
| 13:49.33 | Gnurdux | the banning |
| 13:49.35 | Birdie | "firefox cant find the server from bzbb" |
| 13:49.43 | Gnurdux | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 13:49.48 | Gnurdux | type that in |
| 13:49.54 | Birdie | gunrdux: of course it was a joke, what else |
| 13:50.00 | Gnurdux | hmm maybe your nameserver is down |
| 13:50.01 | ToughShooter | lol ;) |
| 13:50.10 | Gnurdux | try pinging something |
| 13:50.24 | Gnurdux | ping google.com |
| 13:50.30 | ToughShooter | Birdie: Try to connect via IP-adress, not the hostname |
| 13:50.39 | Gnurdux | Birdie, first try pinging a hostname |
| 13:50.39 | Birdie | bzbb.bzflag.org i cant visit, but my.bzflag.org/bb/ i can |
| 13:50.41 | Gnurdux | than an IP |
| 13:50.44 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 13:50.48 | Birdie | how strange |
| 13:50.49 | Gnurdux | then do it that way |
| 13:50.52 | Birdie | and yes i'm banned |
| 13:50.59 | Birdie | i better didnt upgrade to 2.0.4 today:) |
| 13:51.01 | Gnurdux | Birdie, hehe |
| 13:51.08 | blast007 | bzbb.bzflag.org is old |
| 13:51.08 | Gnurdux | click contact admins |
| 13:51.26 | Birdie | blast007: i could visit it till 3hours ago |
| 13:51.28 | Gnurdux | and Birdie 2.0.6 is coming out today |
| 13:51.54 | blast007 | yeah, it is supposed to work :) |
| 13:51.56 | ToughShooter | Umm, it can't come out today as CVS is down |
| 13:52.02 | Gnurdux | CVS is still down> |
| 13:52.06 | Gnurdux | it doesnt matter though |
| 13:52.11 | Gnurdux | they said it comes out today, no matter what |
| 13:52.51 | CBG | [2:51pm] <Gnurdux> and Birdie 2.0.6 is coming out today |
| 13:52.52 | CBG | You think? |
| 13:53.13 | Gnurdux | Jeff said it comes out even if CVS is still down |
| 13:53.17 | Gnurdux | rain or shine |
| 13:53.19 | CBG | The last I heard was that CVS was gonna be down this weekend, so release would be next. |
| 13:53.19 | Gnurdux | CVS or not |
| 13:53.25 | CBG | Gnurdux: when was this? |
| 13:53.39 | Gnurdux | a coup;e days ago |
| 13:53.55 | CBG | Well, I heard that it would be next saturday, yesterday. |
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| 13:54.15 | CBG | Though, my memory is pretty awful, I may be wrong. |
| 13:54.35 | CBG | I just wouldn't get any hopes up about it coming out today, 'sall. |
| 13:55.45 | blast007 | Gnurdux: my logs have jeff and a couple others saying they'd rather wait until CVS is up |
| 13:55.48 | blast007 | 17:07:13 <@JeffM2501> if we can't get tomorow, then we can't |
| 13:55.51 | Gnurdux | aw :( |
| 13:56.01 | Gnurdux | darn |
| 13:56.10 | Gnurdux | must have changed their minds |
| 13:57.45 | ToughShooter | Birdie: Any luck? |
| 13:58.18 | Birdie | still cant visit bzbb.bzflag.org, but i can the other link:( |
| 13:58.59 | ToughShooter | Does my.bzflag.org work for you? |
| 14:03.01 | Birdie | yes |
| 14:03.44 | Birdie | so every one on 2.0.4 cant play today? |
| 14:08.33 | Gnurdux | Birdie, no |
| 14:08.39 | Gnurdux | i can play |
| 14:08.42 | Gnurdux | im onm 2.0.4 |
| 14:09.18 | Birdie | uhu |
| 14:11.04 | Birdie | how come i cant than? |
| 14:12.05 | ToughShooter | It is likely that it has to do with a broken installation or some other probs on your computer |
| 14:13.03 | Birdie | i havent done anything the last hours on my pc, and everything worked before |
| 14:13.08 | Birdie | rebooting here i go.. |
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| 14:47.01 | Gnurdux | hi brad2901 and Mr_Molez |
| 14:47.08 | Mr_Molez | oh hello |
| 14:47.28 | brad2901 | hi Gnurdux |
| 14:51.16 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: hows it going |
| 14:51.19 | Gnurdux | goo |
| 14:51.20 | Gnurdux | d |
| 14:54.36 | BenUrban | is cvs back up yet? |
| 14:55.35 | brad2901 | http://sourceforge.net/docs/A04/ |
| 14:56.01 | BenUrban | :/ |
| 14:56.27 | Gnurdux | ( 2006-03-31 07:00:01 - Project CVS Service ) On 2006-03-30 the developer CVS server had a hardware issue that required us to take the service offline. We are actively working on this problem and hope to have it back up soon. There is not a current estimate for the duration of this outage, but when we get one, it will be posted on the site status page (this page). We currently expect this outage to last 48 hours, at minimum. |
| 14:56.28 | Gnurdux | :(( |
| 14:56.49 | BenUrban | bah |
| 14:57.02 | Gnurdux | i guess this means no fools gold |
| 14:57.43 | BenUrban | there is no way a cvs outage could be an april fool's prank by sf |
| 14:58.05 | BenUrban | it's just so extremely not funny to so many people |
| 15:01.22 | brlcad | at a minimum, which means probably tues or wednesday |
| 15:01.41 | BenUrban | ugh |
| 15:02.28 | BenUrban | by then i will have forgotten what i was doing |
| 15:03.53 | Mr_Molez | aww damn i have been banned from the bzflag forum again :P |
| 15:03.54 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 15:04.00 | BenUrban | haha |
| 15:04.17 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, april fools! |
| 15:04.29 | Gnurdux | click the contact webmaster linl |
| 15:04.42 | Gnurdux | its Jeff's April Fools joke Mr_Molez |
| 15:04.45 | Mr_Molez | im gona spam irc in retaliation for being banned!!! |
| 15:04.52 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, look up |
| 15:05.04 | BenUrban | Mr_Molez: no you won't |
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| 15:05.13 | Mr_Molez | hehehe :P |
| 15:05.29 | Gnurdux | it did that for everyone you f00l Mr_Molez |
| 15:05.39 | Gnurdux | Jeffs idea of a joke |
| 15:05.39 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: did what ? |
| 15:05.44 | Gnurdux | LOOK UP |
| 15:05.46 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: duh i worked that out :) |
| 15:06.20 | Gnurdux | apparently Jeff started syaing that 2.0.4 had been secretyl catching cheaters |
| 15:06.23 | Gnurdux | and DW fell for it |
| 15:06.41 | BenUrban | heh |
| 15:06.51 | Gnurdux | BenUrban, is 2.0.6 going to come out today, or will it be delayed |
| 15:07.01 | BenUrban | how sould i know? |
| 15:07.24 | Mr_Molez | DW ? |
| 15:08.40 | Gnurdux | ducatiwannabe |
| 15:12.29 | Mr_Molez | bvbk,jkbyikjrhyfv fj |
| 15:12.48 | Mr_Molez | oops |
| 15:12.51 | Mr_Molez | ahh lol |
| 15:12.56 | blast007 | spider on the keyboard? ;) |
| 15:12.56 | Mr_Molez | why he hiding something ;) |
| 15:13.03 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 15:13.05 | Mr_Molez | something like that :P |
| 15:13.40 | Mr_Molez | the best april fools prank i know would be to give me +o here for eternity |
| 15:14.23 | BenUrban | good luck with that |
| 15:15.02 | CBG | Mr_Molez: keep dreaming, honey. |
| 15:15.10 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 15:16.17 | Mr_Molez | today feels weird |
| 15:16.28 | CBG | it feels good :0 |
| 15:16.33 | Mr_Molez | yeh ! :P |
| 15:16.36 | Mr_Molez | weird ;) |
| 15:16.40 | CBG | heh |
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| 15:29.42 | Legolas_ | hi guys |
| 15:30.23 | Gnurdux | hi Legolas_ |
| 15:30.41 | Legolas_ | How is 2.0.6 coming? |
| 15:30.50 | Gnurdux | it might be delayed |
| 15:31.06 | Legolas_ | until? |
| 15:31.07 | Gnurdux | cvs is down and it seems that it will stay that way |
| 15:31.11 | Gnurdux | for a while |
| 15:31.21 | Legolas_ | shizzle\ |
| 15:31.29 | Gnurdux | it might happen anyway |
| 15:31.38 | Legolas_ | is it already done, we are just waiting on cvs? |
| 15:31.50 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 15:31.54 | Gnurdux | so it might happen anyway |
| 15:32.04 | Gnurdux | Legolas_, maybe there is something on the forums |
| 15:32.14 | blast007 | it's not 100% done...we were still making some final commits |
| 15:32.22 | Legolas_ | ok |
| 15:32.23 | blast007 | but since CVS is down, we can't |
| 15:32.44 | Legolas_ | Will MacosX have to download from cvs or is there an installer |
| 15:33.29 | Gnurdux | Legolas_, there is an installer |
| 15:33.30 | Legolas_ | Gnurdux: how is your bot coming along? |
| 15:33.36 | Gnurdux | suckily |
| 15:33.40 | Legolas_ | lol |
| 15:33.40 | ToughShooter | Installer? There was never an installer for Mac OS X version of BZFLag. |
| 15:33.40 | Gnurdux | i havent worked on it for ages |
| 15:33.47 | Gnurdux | more interested in bz right now |
| 15:33.54 | Gnurdux | ToughShooter, they were making one |
| 15:34.07 | BenUrban | what's the point of an installer for osx? |
| 15:34.08 | Gnurdux | talking about what image to use for the icon drag or somehting |
| 15:34.17 | BenUrban | heh |
| 15:34.24 | Legolas_ | well, not an installer, i just meant to ask if there was a downloadable bzflag, not a cvs |
| 15:34.24 | ToughShooter | The point of an installer for Mac OS X is not to use it |
| 15:34.31 | Legolas_ | exactly,. Gnurdux |
| 15:35.41 | Gnurdux | legolas: check out gnurdux.homelinux.net:5162 |
| 15:35.46 | ToughShooter | A backgrund image of a folder has not necessarily to do anything with an installer |
| 15:35.55 | Gnurdux | ToughShooter, whatever |
| 15:35.59 | Gnurdux | i dont use osx |
| 15:36.32 | ToughShooter | There will be a compiled version of the app, I bet |
| 15:36.34 | Gnurdux | blast007, why dont you host a temporary cvs somewhere else? |
| 15:36.51 | blast007 | right, let me go do that on my 133MHz beast of a computer |
| 15:37.03 | Gnurdux | blast007, why not? |
| 15:37.09 | blast007 | .. |
| 15:37.13 | ToughShooter | heh |
| 15:37.14 | Gnurdux | it doesnt require much CPU |
| 15:37.22 | blast007 | cuz I don't want to give out 20 shell accounts :P |
| 15:37.24 | Gnurdux | and you can take it down afterwards |
| 15:37.26 | Gnurdux | hmmm true |
| 15:37.30 | blast007 | my box isn't nearly as secure as SF |
| 15:37.40 | Gnurdux | nobody would try to hack it |
| 15:37.46 | blast007 | I'm paranoid |
| 15:37.49 | Gnurdux | you could even give commit to a guest account |
| 15:37.51 | blast007 | plus it only has 32MB of RAM |
| 15:37.55 | Gnurdux | and tell all the devs the pass |
| 15:37.59 | Gnurdux | you dont need any ram |
| 15:38.06 | blast007 | I need _some_ ram |
| 15:38.14 | BenUrban | wow 32mb |
| 15:38.16 | Gnurdux | i would do it if you would trust me and i knew how |
| 15:38.16 | BenUrban | pitiful |
| 15:38.24 | blast007 | BenUrban: isn't it? ;) |
| 15:38.25 | Gnurdux | but neither of those are true |
| 15:38.27 | ToughShooter | Of course it needs ram (..) |
| 15:38.34 | Gnurdux | very little though |
| 15:38.45 | blast007 | Gnurdux: try taking out our ram and booting, tell me how it works for ya |
| 15:38.47 | Gnurdux | bzflag is small |
| 15:38.49 | Gnurdux | hehe |
| 15:39.03 | Gnurdux | blast007, if i could set something up would you be able to get out the release earlier? |
| 15:39.06 | BenUrban | /dev/partitions/home 51605436 48978548 5484 100% /home |
| 15:39.09 | BenUrban | like i said... |
| 15:39.14 | BenUrban | if i had some space available |
| 15:39.26 | blast007 | heh, I have more than you ;) |
| 15:39.33 | blast007 | I have 22MB free! ;P |
| 15:39.42 | BenUrban | well that's just in /home |
| 15:39.48 | blast007 | that's my whole drive |
| 15:39.50 | Gnurdux | blast007, can i give you a shell account to setup a temp CVS on my comp? |
| 15:39.56 | Gnurdux | i have 2.8ghz and 512mb |
| 15:39.57 | BenUrban | there's a reason i have 5 partitions |
| 15:39.58 | blast007 | Gnurdux: no |
| 15:40.11 | BenUrban | Gnurdux: you too? |
| 15:40.12 | Gnurdux | blast007, why not? |
| 15:40.14 | blast007 | BenUrban: mine's just running UMSDOS on a FAT32 drive |
| 15:40.20 | BenUrban | eew |
| 15:40.26 | Gnurdux | :(( |
| 15:40.33 | blast007 | couldn't get the CD to boot...said my BIOS was corrupt |
| 15:40.42 | blast007 | so I had to use ZipSlack |
| 15:40.45 | Gnurdux | ow |
| 15:40.56 | blast007 | and it also won't boot off the hard drive, so I have a boot floppy |
| 15:41.08 | Gnurdux | blast007, why wouldnt that work? |
| 15:41.28 | blast007 | you asked if you 'could give me' an account, not if it would work |
| 15:41.34 | BenUrban | haha |
| 15:41.37 | Gnurdux | i can give you an account |
| 15:41.41 | Gnurdux | why dont you want one? |
| 15:41.47 | blast007 | I'm sure you can, but I wouldn't touch it |
| 15:41.52 | Gnurdux | why not |
| 15:41.52 | BenUrban | lol |
| 15:42.25 | blast007 | cuz I would log into it, and it would ask like 150 questions before I got to a prompt |
| 15:42.30 | Gnurdux | no, it wouldnt |
| 15:42.34 | Gnurdux | it wouldnt ask you ANY |
| 15:42.37 | Gnurdux | i promise |
| 15:42.49 | Gnurdux | it will just log right in |
| 15:42.51 | blast007 | besides, I don't want to ;) |
| 15:42.53 | BenUrban | it would ask at least two |
| 15:42.56 | Gnurdux | not here |
| 15:43.06 | Gnurdux | i made on for my comp sci teacher to test a project |
| 15:43.12 | Gnurdux | and i saw her login the first time |
| 15:43.13 | BenUrban | if it's ssh, it would ask at least two |
| 15:43.15 | Gnurdux | no questions |
| 15:43.19 | Gnurdux | hehe login and pass? |
| 15:43.23 | BenUrban | no |
| 15:43.25 | blast007 | I use keys |
| 15:43.30 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 15:43.35 | BenUrban | password, and whether to trust the other end |
| 15:43.40 | Gnurdux | true |
| 15:44.04 | Gnurdux | its just i want to do whatever i can to get bzf 2.0.6 |
| 15:44.28 | Gnurdux | BenUrban, if i gave YOU a shell accoutn would you setup a temp cvs? |
| 15:44.32 | BenUrban | try checking out the cvs ;) |
| 15:44.40 | BenUrban | anoncvs is still up |
| 15:44.45 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 15:44.47 | Gnurdux | only dev cvs |
| 15:44.54 | Gnurdux | unfortunately anoncvs doesnt have commit |
| 15:44.59 | Gnurdux | and its several days behind |
| 15:45.08 | BenUrban | still |
| 15:45.16 | BenUrban | it's closer to 2.0.6 then anything else at this piont |
| 15:45.32 | Gnurdux | ill check it out |
| 15:45.35 | Gnurdux | and see whats in it |
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| 15:46.06 | Legolas_ | gnurdux, server not found |
| 15:46.11 | BenUrban | trouble is, even if a cvs server was set up somewhere else, what happens when the sf server comes back up? |
| 15:46.15 | Gnurdux | gnurdux.homelinux.net |
| 15:46.18 | Gnurdux | port 5162 |
| 15:46.29 | Gnurdux | temp cvs is commited to it BenUrban |
| 15:46.30 | Gnurdux | not too hard |
| 15:46.42 | BenUrban | there would be an annoying process or transferring the commits |
| 15:46.53 | Gnurdux | but 2.0.6 could come out |
| 15:46.59 | blast007 | I'd rather just wait for SF |
| 15:47.10 | blast007 | it's not critical that we get 2.0.6 out today |
| 15:47.12 | BenUrban | no more or less quickly than without cvs |
| 15:47.15 | Gnurdux | :( |
| 15:47.35 | BenUrban | believe it or not, there was a time when cvs wasn't around |
| 15:47.43 | BenUrban | and people still did development |
| 15:47.45 | blast007 | *gasp* |
| 15:47.47 | blast007 | ;) |
| 15:48.17 | Legolas_ | swtiching comps, cya in a sec |
| 15:52.06 | Gnurdux | what needs to be commited? |
| 15:52.16 | ToughShooter | Forget it, just wait, it will come out when it's done |
| 15:52.16 | guu | I've never heard of it, just wait, it will come out when it's done, ToughShooter! |
| 15:52.24 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:52.27 | BenUrban | LMAO |
| 15:52.37 | ToughShooter | guu: psst |
| 15:52.38 | guu | ToughShooter: are you 12? |
| 15:52.40 | BenUrban | guu is an idiot |
| 15:52.50 | BenUrban | <guu> Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command). |
| 15:52.51 | BenUrban | wtf |
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| 15:57.30 | Gnurdux | and i dont understand some of it |
| 15:57.39 | Gnurdux | BenUrban, do you know why this works? |
| 15:57.40 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.40 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.41 | Legolas_ | hi gnurdux, cool servfer |
| 15:58.02 | Gnurdux | that checks if the file is invalid |
| 15:58.41 | BenUrban | huh? why do you keep asking me stuff like that? |
| 15:58.49 | Gnurdux | i dunno |
| 15:58.50 | BenUrban | i am not one of the bzflag devs |
| 15:58.53 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 15:58.56 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 15:59.02 | Gnurdux | blast007, can you help? |
| 15:59.05 | blast007 | and I just don't care ;) |
| 15:59.07 | BenUrban | lol |
| 15:59.37 | blast007 | Gnurdux: first, I would look up what atoi does |
| 15:59.48 | blast007 | find examples |
| 15:59.52 | Gnurdux | it converts a string to a number |
| 15:59.54 | blast007 | output the value of index |
| 15:59.56 | Gnurdux | but filename + 1 |
| 16:00.14 | Gnurdux | so if filename is "Gnurdux" filename +1 i "nurdux" |
| 16:00.14 | blast007 | filename + 1 takes off part of the filename |
| 16:00.18 | Gnurdux | atoi of that would be 0 |
| 16:00.20 | blast007 | I think |
| 16:00.25 | Legolas_ | Wow you peeps are really nerdy |
| 16:00.35 | Gnurdux | Legolas_, look at my nick |
| 16:00.37 | Legolas_ | \ |
| 16:01.06 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.07 | Gnurdux | ooohhh |
| 16:01.15 | Gnurdux | i didnt notice that line |
| 16:01.52 | blast007 | ah, so it just chops off the # symbol? |
| 16:02.00 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 16:02.16 | Gnurdux | and converts to a number |
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| 16:07.29 | Legolas_ | hi redsox |
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| 16:16.37 | redsoxfan90 | hello |
| 16:16.46 | redsoxfan90 | so who is banned? |
| 16:17.36 | Gnurdux | its an april fools joke |
| 16:17.50 | blast007 | that's what Gnurdux thinks anyway |
| 16:18.21 | Gnurdux | why else would it say banned, then let you in when you click contact webmaster? |
| 16:18.30 | blast007 | shhhh |
| 16:18.53 | blast007 | to...um...let you repent? |
| 16:19.34 | ToughShooter | It's a bug with the contact script |
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| 16:23.06 | Legolas_ | too many people have been cheating, automated anti-cheater programs are in place, if you have cheated it will know, so as far as im concerened tough luck, next time, dont cheat |
| 16:24.05 | blast007 | it's really about time something has been done on this kind of scale |
| 16:24.25 | blast007 | redsoxfan90: is it showing a ban for you? |
| 16:24.33 | Mr_Molez | uhoh redsox banned |
| 16:24.38 | ToughShooter | :) |
| 16:26.14 | Legolas_ | how can we tell when sourceforge cvs is up? |
| 16:26.43 | ToughShooter | Legolas_: SF has a site status page |
| 16:26.58 | blast007 | 21:07:13 * brlcad has a commit pending that will notify the minute it's active |
| 16:27.00 | Gnurdux | think about this: |
| 16:27.05 | Gnurdux | if it really was loggin every cheat |
| 16:27.12 | Gnurdux | it would be somewhere in the source of bzfs |
| 16:27.14 | Gnurdux | its not |
| 16:27.26 | blast007 | are you sure? |
| 16:27.33 | Gnurdux | you can look right where cheats are detected |
| 16:27.43 | Gnurdux | it just kicks, doesnt send anything to anywhere |
| 16:27.59 | Gnurdux | and why did it ban everyone? |
| 16:28.05 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:28.06 | Gnurdux | are we all cheaters? |
| 16:28.21 | blast007 | I had to think for a second when I first saw it |
| 16:28.22 | ToughShooter | It doesn't show something about a ban for me |
| 16:28.36 | Legolas_ | Me neither |
| 16:28.42 | trepan | servers with mod'ed code don't need to release the code |
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| 16:29.05 | ToughShooter | Some of the core servers have collected data over a longer time |
| 16:29.21 | Legolas_ | hi trepan, we are anticipating the release of 2.0.6! |
| 16:29.24 | Gnurdux | sure they have |
| 16:29.45 | Gnurdux | why did it ban me, when i have never cheated except on my own server and a "cheat server" |
| 16:29.47 | trepan | Legolas_: hi! i don't care ;) |
| 16:29.53 | Gnurdux | and why did i let me in then |
| 16:30.04 | Legolas_ | trepan: Well, we DO! |
| 16:30.12 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:30.23 | trepan | why? |
| 16:30.29 | Legolas_ | cuz |
| 16:30.35 | Legolas_ | all the new stuff. |
| 16:30.35 | ToughShooter | There's a bug with the concact script, that is why you can get into the forums |
| 16:30.36 | blast007 | cuz it's a bigger number! |
| 16:30.41 | trepan | what new stuff? |
| 16:30.47 | Legolas_ | all stay up all night till monday if i have to |
| 16:30.58 | Gnurdux | ToughShooter, then why cant Your Dead |
| 16:31.09 | Gnurdux | who apparrently was banned a month ago |
| 16:31.16 | Gnurdux | he gets the same message, but he cant get it |
| 16:31.23 | ToughShooter | That is another script |
| 16:31.32 | ToughShooter | PHPBB is not very good written |
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| 16:31.38 | Gnurdux | why is it a different script for different banned people? |
| 16:31.41 | Legolas_ | better bullets, new cubes, not textured rainbow boxes, come on just cuz you allready have it doesnt mean its not cool |
| 16:31.41 | Gnurdux | that makes no sense |
| 16:32.05 | ToughShooter | Well, detecting kills in the playing client makes no sense either, but it happens |
| 16:32.31 | Gnurdux | but i can understand how that happened |
| 16:32.41 | Gnurdux | whats the difference between my ban and Your Deads |
| 16:32.48 | blast007 | a space |
| 16:33.01 | Gnurdux | heheh |
| 16:33.19 | trepan | Legolas_: 2.0.6 does not include that stuff |
| 16:33.26 | Legolas_ | sure it does |
| 16:33.29 | Legolas_ | :) |
| 16:33.29 | blast007 | no |
| 16:33.34 | Legolas_ | j/k |
| 16:33.36 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:33.45 | Birdie | kick "cedric" pls, thats a ghost |
| 16:34.02 | blast007 | it will still be on the server |
| 16:36.02 | Gnurdux | use /msg NickServ ghost |
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| 16:36.16 | Birdie | i know that..but i never registered it, but nvm i could remove it |
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| 16:39.47 | Legolas_ | btw, trepan, The screenshots are not working, is your site down? |
| 16:40.15 | trepan | bzflag.bz is brlcad's site, and the pictures are gone |
| 16:40.27 | Legolas_ | ic |
| 16:40.40 | Legolas_ | so, do you have a time estimate of the release date? |
| 16:40.50 | Legolas_ | time* |
| 16:40.59 | Legolas_ | ibot |
| 16:41.12 | Legolas_ | shouldnt it be named iBot |
| 16:41.14 | trepan | afaik, shortly after sourceforge dev CVS comes back up |
| 16:41.27 | Legolas_ | ok. |
| 16:41.58 | Legolas_ | guys, this is kinda ot but; check out my site, http://web.mac.com/twgin |
| 16:42.09 | Legolas_ | made on my new iBook in 1/2 hr |
| 16:42.22 | Legolas_ | for mine and Tanner's podcast BZPod |
| 16:44.48 | Legolas_ | is there an alternative to sourceforge cvs? |
| 16:46.26 | brlcad | does it matter? |
| 16:46.50 | Legolas_ | kinda, incase SF doesnt ever come back up :P\ |
| 16:47.05 | brlcad | they'll be back up |
| 16:47.17 | brlcad | just have to be patient |
| 16:47.28 | brlcad | not like you're paying them to do anything for you |
| 16:48.22 | Legolas_ | lol |
| 16:53.37 | bryjen | argh. another segfault from effects rendering :/ |
| 16:56.44 | Legolas_ | why would that matter? |
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| 17:00.10 | Gnurdux | hi JeffM2501 |
| 17:00.15 | Gnurdux | is 2.0.6 going to happen today? |
| 17:00.37 | ToughShooter | patience Gnurdux, patience |
| 17:00.59 | ToughShooter | The world is not going to end if 2.0.6 does not come out today |
| 17:01.26 | blast007 | maybe Gnurdux's world will, but not ours |
| 17:01.26 | JeffM2501 | did cvs come back? |
| 17:01.31 | Gnurdux | no of course it wont, im just impatient |
| 17:01.33 | Gnurdux | nope |
| 17:01.42 | Gnurdux | and SF status page says at least 48 hours |
| 17:01.46 | ToughShooter | blast007: :) |
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| 17:03.56 | bryjen | JeffM2501: i just discovered the shot-teleporter effect is also bugged on the color thing. i think i've got it fixed tho |
| 17:06.22 | brlcad | the sf.net guys have other stuff to do too, homes to go to; i wouldn't be surprised if the "at least 48 hours" was meant to imply the two days of weekend so no sooner than monday or tuesday |
| 17:06.54 | brlcad | maybe not, but odds are they're waiting on piece of hardware to arrive, and most don't ship/deliver on the weekend |
| 17:07.10 | ruskie | guess you guys aren't planing on switching to their svn plan? |
| 17:07.26 | brlcad | ruskie: it's been talked about |
| 17:07.45 | brlcad | we might, but this isn't exactly a motivation for doing it or not |
| 17:07.52 | ToughShooter | svn = subversion? |
| 17:07.54 | brlcad | just as likely the svn hardware could have failed |
| 17:07.56 | ruskie | yup |
| 17:08.00 | bryjen | err, or maybe not fixed. I'm not seeing any effect now :( |
| 17:08.00 | ruskie | true |
| 17:09.09 | brlcad | the svn setup they have is very new and somewhat untested on the masses, I'd personally like to see it be up for a little more production use so they can work out any issues before we migrated |
| 17:09.22 | brlcad | maybe after we release 2.2 for example |
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| 17:22.55 | Gnurdux | how do you pass args to a plugin? |
| 17:23.32 | Gnurdux | ? |
| 17:24.38 | Gnurdux | brlcad, how do you pass arguments t oa plugin> |
| 17:25.07 | brlcad | i don't use plugins |
| 17:27.52 | blast007 | Gnurdux: in the load command, probably comma seperated |
| 17:28.15 | blast007 | like somePlugin.so,first,second,third |
| 17:28.28 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 17:28.29 | Gnurdux | cool |
| 17:28.47 | Gnurdux | yay my theme plugin is ALMOSt done |
| 17:28.49 | blast007 | but I don't use them either, so that's just afaik |
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| 18:14.55 | bryjen | is the shot-teleporter effect not drawing for anyone else? |
| 18:22.17 | bryjen | at least I stopped it from crashing... |
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| 18:33.51 | bryjen | duh |
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| 18:42.14 | bryjen | brlcad: please check that the shot-teleporter effect doesn't cause segfault before releasing |
| 18:42.28 | bryjen | it was doing so here (on linux) |
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| 19:26.24 | SportChick | jef: hehe good one |
| 19:27.22 | Gnurdux | jeff aint on |
| 19:27.27 | Gnurdux | but it was a good joke |
| 19:27.29 | TD-Linux | don't say anything about it |
| 19:27.37 | TD-Linux | he'll ban you for sure >:-D |
| 19:27.55 | TD-Linux | I'm going to go post about how everyone got banned except me |
| 19:36.05 | Gnurdux | hey anyone good with bzfs API? |
| 19:36.56 | Gnurdux | please someone? |
| 19:37.08 | Gnurdux | anyone know about string lists? |
| 19:38.08 | blast007 | I know that I did them wrong when I added something to the API, and it had to be fixed ;) |
| 19:38.12 | blast007 | that's about it though |
| 19:39.33 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 19:39.38 | Gnurdux | hmm i haxed it |
| 19:39.50 | Gnurdux | i did something i wasnt supposed to blast007 |
| 19:40.05 | Gnurdux | i cast a reference to something const to one to something not const :P |
| 19:40.08 | Gnurdux | so that i could set it |
| 19:41.14 | blast007 | yucky |
| 19:42.56 | Gnurdux | that was the only way i could do it |
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| 19:59.20 | Gnurdux | blast007, i finished my theme plugin, and the patch i made really was useful for it. so can it PLEASE be put in fools; gold |
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| 20:28.03 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, nice joke |
| 20:28.13 | Gnurdux | i fell for it for a sec |
| 20:30.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah a lot of people think that really is the new layout |
| 20:30.02 | Gnurdux | also JeffM2501 since CVS is down and it wont be up for approximately ever can you try to incorporate my patch |
| 20:30.10 | Gnurdux | wait that was a joke too?? |
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| 20:30.16 | JeffM2501 | too? |
| 20:30.19 | Gnurdux | i thought the joke was the banned part |
| 20:30.22 | JeffM2501 | that is the only joke |
| 20:30.27 | JeffM2501 | no the ban system is real |
| 20:30.35 | Gnurdux | umm sure |
| 20:30.39 | JeffM2501 | we've been working on it for a very long time |
| 20:30.55 | Gnurdux | why can i get in when i click contact the webmaster then? |
| 20:31.31 | JeffM2501 | because the system bans people in the background |
| 20:31.33 | Gnurdux | oh wait whoops |
| 20:31.35 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 20:31.36 | JeffM2501 | so it takes a while |
| 20:31.38 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 20:31.42 | JeffM2501 | your ban will come |
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| 20:31.49 | JeffM2501 | I can push it thru faster if you want |
| 20:32.02 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, no thanks |
| 20:35.18 | JeffM2501 | brlcad ping |
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| 20:39.22 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: why was my name mentioned in the april fools post and not db |
| 20:43.53 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Umm, when I select German as board language it still stays English |
| 20:44.15 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez cus yours was the most popular one :) |
| 20:44.20 | Mr_Molez | yay |
| 20:44.24 | ToughShooter | I mean the setting changes but the strings don't get localized |
| 20:44.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah we are only set up for english |
| 20:45.00 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez I had to do something to make it belevable ;) |
| 20:45.27 | Mr_Molez | btw i think win xp should be banned or put on probation for ruining it :P |
| 20:45.41 | JeffM2501 | his posts were removed |
| 20:50.59 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Why is there an entry for changing the language then? |
| 20:51.10 | JeffM2501 | cus it's part of phpbb |
| 20:51.12 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, since the release is delayed anyway can you put in my patch? |
| 20:51.15 | JeffM2501 | and we didn't disable it |
| 20:51.18 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux no |
| 20:51.23 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 20:51.39 | JeffM2501 | I told you I don't want to push things in right at the end |
| 20:51.40 | Gnurdux | its just my plugin is done and i want it to be compatible |
| 20:51.53 | JeffM2501 | we have told you how to get the defaults other ways |
| 20:51.55 | Gnurdux | but there are at least 2-3 more days before the release |
| 20:51.56 | ToughShooter | Umm, you can install several languages and remove them. I know that. If you can't delete then you have an error in the database phpbb uses |
| 20:52.00 | JeffM2501 | deal with it and stop being anoying |
| 20:52.21 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter oh yeah our database is full of errors :) |
| 20:52.28 | JeffM2501 | we are kinda on a 1/2 ass upgrade system |
| 20:52.34 | JeffM2501 | so some stuff dosnt' work |
| 20:52.37 | Gnurdux | this way is both best and easiest thoguh |
| 20:52.38 | A_Meteorite | is the new theme permanent? |
| 20:52.39 | JeffM2501 | that's why I want it all redone |
| 20:52.45 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite yes |
| 20:52.58 | JeffM2501 | it's the same old theme |
| 20:52.59 | A_Meteorite | hmmm.. I'm still seeing green logos |
| 20:53.05 | JeffM2501 | I just changed the images |
| 20:53.05 | A_Meteorite | not logos |
| 20:53.07 | A_Meteorite | Icons |
| 20:53.10 | ToughShooter | Ah, well when it gets redone I might able to help. My PHP code doesn't look so bad :) |
| 20:53.15 | JeffM2501 | reload and flush your cache |
| 20:53.16 | Gnurdux | the new images are cooler |
| 20:53.37 | JeffM2501 | some of the images still have a slightly blue tint to them |
| 20:53.39 | A_Meteorite | I've also been having weird problems |
| 20:53.49 | ToughShooter | Yes, the new theme looks better but I still prefer solaris ;) |
| 20:54.09 | A_Meteorite | when I used to read a topic it didn't consider it "new posts" but now I have to manually mark it read |
| 20:54.19 | A_Meteorite | and sometimes after marking it read it comes back |
| 20:54.29 | JeffM2501 | your cache and cookie are probably jacked |
| 20:54.29 | A_Meteorite | this just started about a week ago |
| 20:54.45 | JeffM2501 | flush your cookie |
| 20:54.59 | A_Meteorite | ok |
| 20:55.07 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: I got myself a sexy athlon 64 3500+ ;) whats your rig running at :P |
| 20:55.20 | JeffM2501 | 3800+ dual core |
| 20:55.21 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, whats the clockspeed of that thing? |
| 20:55.22 | JeffM2501 | overclocked |
| 20:55.26 | JeffM2501 | 2 gig |
| 20:55.28 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, WOW |
| 20:55.31 | Mr_Molez | 2.0ghz or something |
| 20:55.31 | JeffM2501 | for a 3500 |
| 20:55.39 | JeffM2501 | the 35's are cheap |
| 20:55.43 | JeffM2501 | they are going out of production |
| 20:55.45 | Mr_Molez | pfft |
| 20:55.49 | JeffM2501 | being replaced by the 38's |
| 20:55.52 | Gnurdux | but its much faster than an intel 2 gig |
| 20:55.55 | ToughShooter | I remember one time I checked one website over and over again for important news. After a week I got called because I didn't to what was on the website. I looked again and it still was't updated. Then I trashed my cache and it was all new. |
| 20:55.58 | JeffM2501 | don't get me wrong, it's a dman nice chip |
| 20:56.03 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez what mobo? |
| 20:56.19 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: I ain't decided on a mobo yet.. Any recommendations ? |
| 20:56.32 | JeffM2501 | nforce 4 |
| 20:56.38 | JeffM2501 | I have a gigabyte it works well |
| 20:56.55 | JeffM2501 | you making the change to PCI-E? |
| 20:57.02 | Mr_Molez | You can over clock easily with that huh ? |
| 20:57.04 | Mr_Molez | nah not just yet |
| 20:57.09 | Mr_Molez | my radeon does everything I need atm |
| 20:57.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah most mobos will OC |
| 20:57.14 | A_Meteorite | there the theme looks better |
| 20:57.21 | JeffM2501 | oh then your going to be limited on the mobo |
| 20:57.21 | Mr_Molez | I ain't found any game it can't handle yet |
| 20:57.29 | JeffM2501 | most 939 mobos are PCI-E |
| 20:57.29 | A_Meteorite | It'll have to grow on me.... :) |
| 20:57.34 | Mr_Molez | eep |
| 20:57.41 | A_Meteorite | might as well get PCI-E |
| 20:57.45 | A_Meteorite | great investment |
| 20:57.48 | JeffM2501 | and the ones that have AGP are "sub standard" |
| 20:57.56 | A_Meteorite | yeah |
| 20:57.57 | JeffM2501 | you can get a cheal 6600 PCI-E |
| 20:57.57 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 20:58.05 | A_Meteorite | and you'll get PCI x1! |
| 20:58.07 | JeffM2501 | what radeon you have now? |
| 20:58.12 | A_Meteorite | those are gonna be useful in the future |
| 20:58.13 | Mr_Molez | 9800 pro 128m |
| 20:58.25 | JeffM2501 | so an older one |
| 20:58.39 | JeffM2501 | most low end PCI-E cards will be about that performance |
| 20:58.48 | Mr_Molez | oh thats not bad then |
| 20:58.50 | A_Meteorite | well, time to eat, later |
| 20:59.07 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: Catch ya later |
| 20:59.17 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter uggg.. solaris is ugly for a theme |
| 20:59.36 | JeffM2501 | too much wasted space |
| 20:59.43 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, theme plugin is done |
| 20:59.51 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: ok |
| 20:59.58 | Gnurdux | it can save to files |
| 21:01.14 | Gnurdux | crap |
| 21:01.17 | Gnurdux | wait it doesnt work |
| 21:01.22 | blast007 | hehe |
| 21:01.28 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: ..but I like wasted space, then I can use my big display ;) |
| 21:01.41 | JeffM2501 | dude, you are really ruining your reputation by speaking way to early.. don't be so damn eager Gnurdux |
| 21:01.48 | Gnurdux | heh |
| 21:01.55 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter heh, better to use that space ;) |
| 21:02.04 | JeffM2501 | rember I have a rather big display too |
| 21:02.26 | JeffM2501 | hmmm the background of the quotes is still a bit blue |
| 21:05.07 | Gnurdux | i bet it doesnt work because of the hacky way i did it |
| 21:05.37 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, do you know how to modify a value in a string list |
| 21:06.14 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux sure get an iterator to it |
| 21:06.25 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 21:06.33 | Gnurdux | ((bzApiString&)((*tvarList)[k])) = varValue; |
| 21:06.40 | Gnurdux | because i did i hack like that |
| 21:06.46 | Gnurdux | wait tho thats not what screwed it up |
| 21:06.47 | Gnurdux | aha |
| 21:07.00 | Gnurdux | i modified the list of names instead of values :P |
| 21:07.26 | JeffM2501 | what is tvarList? |
| 21:07.39 | Gnurdux | the list of variables |
| 21:07.47 | Gnurdux | from getVarList |
| 21:07.47 | JeffM2501 | what is it defined as |
| 21:07.49 | JeffM2501 | in C++ |
| 21:07.51 | Gnurdux | but i found the problem |
| 21:07.56 | Gnurdux | i think |
| 21:08.02 | Gnurdux | i just need to test now |
| 21:08.59 | blast007 | because testing is a substitute for writing good code ;) |
| 21:09.12 | Gnurdux | exactly |
| 21:09.22 | Gnurdux | well for now anyway |
| 21:09.23 | blast007 | .. |
| 21:09.33 | Gnurdux | if it works then ill make it correct |
| 21:09.35 | ToughShooter | good code needs no testing :p |
| 21:09.36 | Gnurdux | and then ill release it |
| 21:09.44 | JeffM2501 | you should test it for a couple days man |
| 21:09.48 | JeffM2501 | before you release it |
| 21:09.53 | JeffM2501 | or you'll make yourself into a fool |
| 21:10.08 | JeffM2501 | try all possible combinations |
| 21:10.13 | JeffM2501 | not just running it once on one system |
| 21:10.16 | blast007 | try and brak it ;) |
| 21:10.19 | blast007 | break* |
| 21:10.33 | Gnurdux | good it works |
| 21:10.43 | Gnurdux | i dont think there will be much demand for it |
| 21:10.55 | JeffM2501 | not if it's buggy as hell |
| 21:11.03 | blast007 | I think all the kidz with their l33t servers will want it |
| 21:11.32 | Gnurdux | not really |
| 21:11.39 | Gnurdux | most of them wont be able to set it up |
| 21:11.47 | Gnurdux | without documentation |
| 21:12.16 | blast007 | what's so hard about it? does it use a config file? |
| 21:12.26 | blast007 | if so, just provide a sample config |
| 21:12.34 | Gnurdux | it doesnt use a config file |
| 21:12.39 | Gnurdux | there is nothing hard about ut |
| 21:12.45 | Gnurdux | but there also isnt a readme at all |
| 21:13.04 | blast007 | what's the point of releasing it with no documentation? |
| 21:13.13 | Gnurdux | not much |
| 21:13.26 | blast007 | sounds like it's more just for yourself |
| 21:13.27 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, there is no iterator for bzfsApiLists |
| 21:13.34 | Gnurdux | blast007, mostly for myself |
| 21:13.45 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 21:14.39 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux no there isn't |
| 21:14.46 | JeffM2501 | your suposed to copy them to your own list for use |
| 21:14.54 | JeffM2501 | they are JUST for data transport to/from the API |
| 21:15.16 | Gnurdux | im too lazy to test it. and currently it requires a server patch that nobody else has and only works on linux |
| 21:18.44 | brlcad | bryjen: shot-teleporter? i'm not sure what that means |
| 21:18.59 | JeffM2501 | yay he lives |
| 21:19.11 | brlcad | JeffM2501: pong |
| 21:19.34 | JeffM2501 | want your opinion on a web page design.. if you like it, I'll implement it |
| 21:19.58 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/newsite.png |
| 21:20.08 | JeffM2501 | that's just a rough |
| 21:20.35 | brlcad | not bad |
| 21:20.45 | Gnurdux | thats sweet |
| 21:20.45 | JeffM2501 | matches the new fourms somewhat |
| 21:21.17 | JeffM2501 | oh and does bzflag.bz have mysql? |
| 21:21.35 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to set up a test site to work in changes from beta.bzflag.bz/web/ |
| 21:22.24 | brlcad | the left panel could use something, the box outlines seem a little superfluous |
| 21:22.32 | brlcad | does have mysql |
| 21:22.47 | JeffM2501 | do I have access to set up a database for testing? |
| 21:22.57 | brlcad | not sure :) |
| 21:23.08 | brlcad | if not I can create the db easily |
| 21:23.11 | JeffM2501 | can I have access to set up a database for testing? :) |
| 21:23.12 | brlcad | what you want it called? |
| 21:23.38 | JeffM2501 | I dono, whats the one on SF called? |
| 21:24.02 | JeffM2501 | I guess it's called "bzflag" |
| 21:24.08 | JeffM2501 | call it whatever |
| 21:24.11 | JeffM2501 | I can change the code |
| 21:24.56 | JeffM2501 | looks like I have a mysql.dump file too to ge the database |
| 21:28.49 | TD-Linux | with the changed BB images, the blue eye for new posts looks strange... a blue tank logo might make a little more sense |
| 21:29.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah I'm not sure on the eye |
| 21:29.14 | JeffM2501 | it may change |
| 21:29.20 | JeffM2501 | I wanted something diferent then the tank |
| 21:29.40 | JeffM2501 | and the eye is an in game for "observer" so I figured it said "look" |
| 21:29.49 | JeffM2501 | I may make it be one of the shot graphics |
| 21:30.40 | TD-Linux | how about the 'automatic' symbol? |
| 21:30.44 | TD-Linux | except blue |
| 21:31.10 | TD-Linux | that dosen't make much sense either, though... |
| 21:31.19 | JeffM2501 | and it dosnt look good that small |
| 21:31.28 | JeffM2501 | I'll play with it later |
| 21:31.36 | JeffM2501 | it's a small part of the entire plan |
| 21:33.00 | TD-Linux | on a post, there is a bar on top with the title, then a bar with the date... the colors of the bars don't match very well |
| 21:33.31 | JeffM2501 | they arn't suposed to match :) |
| 21:33.31 | TD-Linux | but my CRT hasn't been calibrated in 6 years... |
| 21:33.47 | JeffM2501 | the outline on the title bar is a bit weak I make brighten it up |
| 21:34.06 | TD-Linux | the date bar almost seems to have a slight green tint |
| 21:34.35 | JeffM2501 | it's gray to me |
| 21:34.41 | TD-Linux | hmm |
| 21:34.56 | TD-Linux | the colors of the forum match perfectly with my Lipstik theme now |
| 21:35.37 | TD-Linux | actually, it's a widget style :) |
| 21:36.45 | brlcad | should be created now |
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| 21:41.07 | JeffM2501 | cool.. it worked |
| 21:41.12 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/web/ |
| 21:42.02 | JeffM2501 | tho that goes to show, that not everything on the main web page is in CVS |
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| 21:50.42 | JeffM2501 | hmm brlcad does bzflag.bz not support relitive links? |
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| 22:14.22 | brlcad | JeffM2501: sure does |
| 22:22.00 | JeffM2501 | wierd that it can't find the logo images |
| 22:22.52 | JeffM2501 | I woudl think that <img src="./images/logo2-1.jpg" alt="logo"> would be fine |
| 22:23.17 | JeffM2501 | oh, unless the image has errors ;) |
| 22:26.47 | JeffM2501 | looks like most of the web project in CVS is jacked |
| 22:26.53 | JeffM2501 | images were done as text |
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| 22:54.40 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, my theme plugin is basically done |
| 22:55.03 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 22:55.08 | A_Meteorite | good |
| 22:55.19 | A_Meteorite | heh, I was playing bz |
| 23:09.08 | Gnurdux | heh i just found another bug with theming |
| 23:09.14 | Gnurdux | now it deletes the poll arbiter |
| 23:09.40 | Gnurdux | thats not a hard fix though |
| 23:10.15 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite what is the HTML comment tag? |
| 23:11.50 | JeffM2501 | or anyone |
| 23:12.02 | brad2901 | <!-- --> |
| 23:12.17 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 23:12.21 | brad2901 | :) |
| 23:14.18 | JeffM2501 | trying to get http://beta.bzflag.bz/web/ to work right :/ |
| 23:18.56 | a_temp_dist | You guys notice the whole bunch of obviously bogus names for new players? |
| 23:19.13 | a_temp_dist | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php sort by join date, reverse |
| 23:21.35 | a_temp_dist | looks like they all have a russian websites associated with them |
| 23:23.33 | JeffM2501 | happens all the time |
| 23:23.46 | JeffM2501 | there is a script that will delete them in 4 days |
| 23:24.03 | purple_cow | gotta love spammers |
| 23:24.04 | TD-Linux | beta.bzflag.org has some css issues |
| 23:24.12 | TD-Linux | the main body needs a left margin |
| 23:24.33 | TD-Linux | of a little more than the width of the menu |
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| 23:41.43 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux umm I'm in the middle of actualy doing it |
| 23:41.55 | TD-Linux | aah :) |
| 23:42.18 | romfis | HI |
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| 23:42.52 | romfis | Jeff, you time, or not ? |
| 23:45.29 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 23:46.17 | Gnurdux | what was the prank? |
| 23:46.56 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 23:51.04 | romfis | see info here for new forum bots: http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/ |
| 23:52.05 | JeffM2501 | they don't realy get us that much so it's not too big of a deal |
| 23:53.19 | romfis | gives new "advanced visual confirmation" |
| 23:54.51 | romfis | http://www.amigalink.de/phpbb2/images/MOD_screenshots/CAPTCHA_-_Beispiel_1.jpg |
| 23:55.30 | romfis | or http://www.amigalink.de/phpbb2/images/MOD_screenshots/CAPTCHA_-_Beispiel_2.jpg and http://www.amigalink.de/phpbb2/images/MOD_screenshots/CAPTCHA_-_Beispiel_3.jpg |
| 23:56.04 | JeffM2501 | we kind of want to move to something that isn't phpbb |
| 23:56.10 | JeffM2501 | and move the user management into it's own thing |
| 23:56.52 | romfis | ah, k |
| 23:57.27 | romfis | I only wanted to help: ( |
| 23:57.55 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 23:58.04 | JeffM2501 | and that info may be very usefull when we do :) |
