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| 02:17.12 | gonz1 | hola |
| 02:17.19 | A_Meteorite | hola |
| 02:17.59 | gonz1 | just getting back to bzf. installed a fresh ubunutu 5.10 install, alsa looks to be working yet no sounds w/ bzf. |
| 02:18.21 | gonz1 | my son, now 5, and i have been playing bzf for 2 yrs now ... he's better then i am :( |
| 02:19.18 | gonz1 | on the mac things are spotless (no surprise) but on ubunutu bzflag isn't cooperting w/ alsa from what i can tell. |
| 02:20.02 | A_Meteorite | time to eat |
| 02:20.04 | A_Meteorite | later |
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| 02:22.14 | JeffM2501 | usualy linux sound problems are one of 2 things |
| 02:22.29 | JeffM2501 | 1) you have a sound thing in your window manager that is holding the device |
| 02:22.44 | JeffM2501 | or 2) you have to tell bzflag what to tell SDL to use for sound |
| 02:23.15 | gonz1 | w/ alsa i've been able to multiplex events w/o trouble. |
| 02:23.34 | gonz1 | text-to-speech, system events, cd etc |
| 02:23.39 | JeffM2501 | then you probably just have to tell bzflag to use also |
| 02:23.40 | JeffM2501 | alsa |
| 02:23.43 | gonz1 | so i guess i'll look at the later |
| 02:23.56 | JeffM2501 | in the setup there is a place where you can type in driver and device strings |
| 02:24.04 | JeffM2501 | IIRC you just put "alsa" in for the driver |
| 02:24.05 | gonz1 | ahhh, saw that. |
| 02:24.11 | gonz1 | k, trying now. |
| 02:24.19 | JeffM2501 | tupone knows the most about that |
| 02:24.28 | JeffM2501 | I just know what I've heard |
| 02:25.06 | gonz1 | appreciatd. |
| 02:25.28 | gonz1 | k, putting alsa in driver didn't work. |
| 02:25.43 | gonz1 | ahhh, device strings ... ponder. |
| 02:25.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah I've hard people having to put stuff in there too |
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| 02:28.08 | gonz1 | tupone ... just talking 'bout u |
| 02:28.31 | Tupone | me? |
| 02:28.45 | gonz1 | i'm having a bit'o trouble w/ alsa on linux (ubuntu). |
| 02:28.55 | JeffM2501 | you are the sound master :) |
| 02:29.06 | gonz1 | yup, jeffm2501 mentioned u know the sound config stuff. |
| 02:29.11 | Tupone | but these are not my best ours |
| 02:29.15 | gonz1 | there be the praise :) |
| 02:29.17 | Tupone | hours |
| 02:29.28 | JeffM2501 | how is the moring treating you Tupone :) |
| 02:29.34 | JeffM2501 | morning even |
| 02:29.42 | Tupone | 3:30 here |
| 02:29.45 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 02:29.46 | JeffM2501 | dude |
| 02:29.51 | JeffM2501 | sleep |
| 02:29.57 | Tupone | yeap I should now |
| 02:30.08 | Tupone | back from the club :) |
| 02:30.14 | JeffM2501 | late night |
| 02:30.14 | gonz1 | just wondering what device string to add for an alsa driver (ubuntu) |
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| 02:30.26 | gonz1 | alsa looks to be fine re cd etc |
| 02:30.30 | Tupone | normally you did not need to add any |
| 02:30.45 | Tupone | just write alsa to driver |
| 02:31.03 | gonz1 | did that. still silent. very pretty though ... i haven't run the latest for awhile now. |
| 02:31.15 | gonz1 | but i want to hear explosions :) |
| 02:31.29 | Tupone | and audio driver, at the console ... what does it says? |
| 02:31.38 | gonz1 | wonder if i should remove/add bzf now that i have alsa config'd. |
| 02:31.38 | Tupone | in the chat area I mean |
| 02:31.58 | gonz1 | dsp |
| 02:32.04 | Tupone | so you don't have alsa |
| 02:32.26 | gonz1 | hmmm ... tested also via the media tool (on ubuntu) and it worked. |
| 02:32.27 | Tupone | go to option->audio->driver write alsa then enter |
| 02:33.22 | gonz1 | ok ... good. "audio not avail" when i specify alsa as the drive. |
| 02:33.25 | gonz1 | ok ... good. "audio not avail" when i specify alsa as the driver. |
| 02:33.37 | gonz1 | if u need sleep by all means go to bed compadre. |
| 02:33.48 | JeffM2501 | is it posible your SDL was not built with alsa support? |
| 02:33.53 | gonz1 | would love to play a game w/ my son. he's on the mac just now. |
| 02:33.57 | JeffM2501 | all we do is ask SDL to play the sound |
| 02:34.02 | JeffM2501 | it handles the guts |
| 02:34.17 | Tupone | have you stopped all other sound daemon? |
| 02:34.24 | gonz1 | possibly. default ubunutu install. just started tweaking w/ the sound stuff. |
| 02:34.41 | gonz1 | and noticed bfz was silent when the other devices worked. |
| 02:34.50 | Tupone | esd ? |
| 02:35.06 | gonz1 | it's running... killing it now. |
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| 02:36.04 | gonz1 | no dice |
| 02:36.34 | gonz1 | wonder if i do a apt uninstall bzf ...then a new install if it'll pick up the right config. |
| 02:37.02 | JeffM2501 | it's not a config thing |
| 02:37.04 | JeffM2501 | apt won't build it |
| 02:37.16 | JeffM2501 | if anything you may need to do that to your SDL |
| 02:37.21 | JeffM2501 | but probably not BZ |
| 02:38.11 | gonz1 | confirmed. didn't do the trick. |
| 02:38.31 | gonz1 | i'll look into sdl then |
| 02:39.11 | gonz1 | in earlier distributions, of suse and ubuntu, i recall having to run "alsaconfig" ... didn't have to do that w/ this distro though. thus far anyways. |
| 02:41.25 | JeffM2501 | since bz dosn't use alsa direclty, I don't see how that could affect it |
| 02:41.29 | JeffM2501 | it could affect SDL |
| 02:42.26 | Tupone | if you are sure you have alsa, and sdl has alsa ... bzflag seems not having any reason to not emit sounds |
| 02:43.14 | gonz1 | candily i haven't messed w/ sdl before, at least directly w/ earlier distributions. |
| 02:43.21 | gonz1 | so i'm digging into that now. |
| 02:43.29 | JeffM2501 | older versions of bz didn't use SDL |
| 02:43.32 | gonz1 | what os u folks run? just curious. |
| 02:43.36 | gonz1 | ahhhh. |
| 02:43.49 | Tupone | gonz1: I run gentoo |
| 02:44.13 | gonz1 | cool. how is gentoo doing these days? didn't one of the principals go to microsoft 1y+ back? |
| 02:44.37 | Tupone | daniel robbins left microsoft some times ago |
| 02:44.51 | gonz1 | ahhh, didn't stay that long then. back w/ gentoo? |
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| 02:45.17 | Tupone | not yet, but he is back in irc |
| 02:47.28 | gonz1 | hmmm |
| 02:47.35 | gonz1 | looks like i'm missing libsdl-sound |
| 02:49.59 | Tupone | don't need that |
| 02:50.31 | Tupone | well, unless is a piece of the libsdl |
| 02:51.01 | gonz1 | yeah. didn't see a simple libsdl pkg ... looking again. |
| 02:52.40 | Tupone | cu |
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| 02:52.50 | gonz1 | l8r daze |
| 03:27.49 | gonz1 | houston ... we have sound :) |
| 03:27.54 | gonz1 | much appreciated. |
| 03:28.18 | gonz1 | the sdl lib wasn't in apt so i installed the rpm via alien on ubuntu and we're good to go now. thx all. |
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| 06:31.40 | bz15 | can someone plz help |
| 06:33.46 | trepan | _maxFlagGrabs |
| 06:34.10 | bz15 | set to 0? |
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| 17:35.51 | RPG_ | could anybody explain why suddenly my graphics card went from very fast, to very slow, and the surface temperature also soared by about 20 degreese? |
| 17:36.02 | RPG_ | i don't think that's normal |
| 17:36.23 | ruskie | loss of 3d accell??? |
| 17:36.31 | ruskie | or it got busted... |
| 17:36.53 | RPG_ | i didnt' do any software or hadware changes |
| 17:37.05 | ruskie | shit can happen |
| 17:37.14 | RPG_ | should i return it |
| 17:37.28 | ruskie | still under warranty? |
| 17:37.33 | RPG_ | yeah |
| 17:37.35 | ruskie | and do you have cooling on it? |
| 17:38.06 | RPG_ | onboard fan |
| 17:38.09 | RPG_ | that still works |
| 17:38.21 | ruskie | what OS? |
| 17:38.38 | RPG_ | Windows XP SP 1 / Ubuntu Linux |
| 17:38.49 | ruskie | same prob in both? |
| 17:39.21 | RPG_ | I havn't got the driver on Ubuntu, and it goes slow (natrually), but windows it alwaus used to blaze, and it just started to slow down |
| 17:39.41 | ruskie | no clue about win... |
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| 18:54.40 | kommerck | hi |
| 18:54.50 | kommerck | I get choppy sound with the alsa audio driver |
| 18:54.58 | kommerck | suse 10.0, alsa 1.0.11rc2 |
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| 19:30.12 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Is the listserver down? |
| 19:31.16 | JeffM2501 | no, just very very slow |
| 19:31.36 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ah, ok |
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| 19:36.02 | kommerck | hm no one uses bzflag with alsa audio driver and a soundcard that can't do hw mixing |
| 19:39.14 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure someone does |
| 19:39.55 | kommerck | my sound is choppy if I do |
| 19:40.30 | spldart | what kind of soundcard? |
| 19:40.56 | JeffM2501 | sounds like your alsa driver isn't able to keep up |
| 19:41.17 | kommerck | crappy intel8x0 |
| 19:41.20 | spldart | ah |
| 19:41.22 | kommerck | using dmix |
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| 19:41.29 | kommerck | does bzflag use mmap |
| 19:41.43 | kommerck | for sound |
| 19:41.43 | JeffM2501 | it is probably using the CPU to mix |
| 19:41.47 | spldart | was going to see if your using a card I've had on linux and if I could help |
| 19:41.49 | JeffM2501 | bzflag uses SDL for sound |
| 19:41.50 | Tupone | not directly |
| 19:41.51 | spldart | processor speed? |
| 19:41.56 | kommerck | 2.8 ghz |
| 19:42.08 | kommerck | it's a problem of buffer size, not the CPU |
| 19:42.10 | JeffM2501 | the game is probalby taking 100% of the cpu |
| 19:42.14 | spldart | woah.... not cpu |
| 19:42.25 | kommerck | imo |
| 19:42.37 | kommerck | I hear only kinda 3/4 of the sound |
| 19:42.39 | JeffM2501 | you can tell SDL what sound API you want it to use |
| 19:42.43 | kommerck | yup |
| 19:42.45 | spldart | can you confirm the 100% cpu in top? |
| 19:43.03 | kommerck | if I use oss sound is good but it blocks the sound device |
| 19:43.06 | JeffM2501 | actualy the buffers are fixed, your not geting time to the driver to update the buffer in time |
| 19:43.30 | JeffM2501 | you may want to try the frame rate limiting code |
| 19:43.37 | JeffM2501 | it will leave more CPU open for other stuff |
| 19:43.42 | kommerck | spldart: I think that pretty each game would use 100% cpu because of no frame rate limits |
| 19:43.57 | JeffM2501 | you can turn on frame rate limits |
| 19:44.02 | spldart | hrm |
| 19:44.03 | JeffM2501 | our "power saver" mode |
| 19:44.04 | kommerck | how? |
| 19:44.08 | ruskie | :) |
| 19:44.34 | spldart | perhaps I'm so used to dual cpu's that I've forgotten what it's like on a single :( |
| 19:44.50 | JeffM2501 | spldart, and he's got a driver that dosn't get time easy |
| 19:44.53 | JeffM2501 | umm it's in the config |
| 19:44.56 | JeffM2501 | let me look |
| 19:45.05 | JeffM2501 | I'm just guessing tho |
| 19:45.32 | ruskie | hmm it1ll probably a long while before I get any major hw upgrades... so a dual core/cpu system is a long way away for me... |
| 19:48.02 | spldart | My newest dually is getting a bit old. Two AMD Bartons at 2304mhz. |
| 19:48.17 | JeffM2501 | in your config, you can change your "maxFPS" from 0 to something else |
| 19:48.20 | JeffM2501 | and take out the # |
| 19:48.29 | JeffM2501 | set it at like 60 and see if that helps |
| 19:48.54 | kommerck | actually fps max out the gpu more than cpu, right? |
| 19:49.05 | ruskie | kommerck, depends... |
| 19:49.08 | JeffM2501 | depends on the implementeation |
| 19:49.18 | kommerck | well glxgears is kinda cpu hungry |
| 19:49.20 | ruskie | if you've got hw or sw implementation :) |
| 19:49.23 | JeffM2501 | and we don't use another thread, so we will wait while the GPU does it's thing |
| 19:49.25 | trepan | "set fpsLimit 60" , enable it in options->display->energy saver |
| 19:49.30 | trepan | needs a recent client |
| 19:49.37 | trepan | (iirc) |
| 19:49.40 | kommerck | I've got 2.0.4 |
| 19:50.06 | kommerck | I doubt bzflag will run on software only mesa |
| 19:50.20 | JeffM2501 | it will |
| 19:50.33 | kommerck | lowest quality without textures? |
| 19:50.45 | JeffM2501 | depends on res and the system |
| 19:51.27 | JeffM2501 | but yes it is usualy at a lower quality then hardware |
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| 20:28.05 | uso | is there a setting which lets you set the color of the flags on radar and the color of the players in the scorelist? |
| 20:28.37 | uso | like e.g. blueradar for the tank color on radar and the player scores |
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| 21:01.34 | kommerck | still a bit choppy sound |
| 21:01.37 | kommerck | with 60 fps |
| 21:01.41 | kommerck | max |
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| 21:17.44 | SportChick | global id seems to be down |
| 21:17.56 | ToughShooter | ~bzflist |
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| 21:24.47 | trepan | ouch, my own silent packing error checks just killed 30 minutes of my time |
| 21:29.32 | trepan | on the bright side, i now have tiered material templates, swap the textures and you're good to go :) |
| 21:29.36 | jimis | hello, can anyone help with a compilation error on Irix? |
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| 21:42.38 | brlcad | jimis: what's the error? |
| 21:43.12 | brlcad | several can help, best to just say the problem first |
| 21:44.11 | jimis | ok, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/45267 |
| 21:59.19 | brlcad | jimis: looks like a broken template header on your system |
| 21:59.27 | brlcad | at a glance at least |
| 21:59.56 | brlcad | including string by itself is giving the first error (which shouldn't happen..) |
| 22:00.12 | brlcad | try adding a #include <iostream> before the <string> in include/bz_Locale.h |
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| 22:06.53 | jimis | brlcad: I got a similar error now. Do you think something is misconfigured in my system? |
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| 22:09.00 | brlcad | similar or pretty much the same? |
| 22:10.21 | jimis | similar |
| 22:10.58 | brlcad | it seems like there's some header that needs to be included before <string>, but would need to poke around the headers to see which |
| 22:11.02 | brlcad | paste the new error? |
| 22:12.12 | brlcad | mmm.. reese's peanut butter cup sundae with fudge |
| 22:13.31 | jimis | hmm, I can't paste it now, I'm rebuilding. If it persists then I'll do. |
| 22:13.43 | brlcad | mkay |
| 22:14.19 | brlcad | that particular compilation unit isn't used iirc as well, so you can probably just remove it from the Makefile.am if necessary |
| 22:14.34 | brlcad | that's an implementation in progress |
| 22:15.22 | jimis | ok |
| 22:15.54 | ToughShooter | brlcad: Could it be you who caused that? http://pastebin.com/596989 |
| 22:16.16 | ToughShooter | CVS HEAD, usual Mac env |
| 22:16.45 | jimis | something else now, I tried to run a precompiled version on this sgi O2 and the screen was extremely dark. When I tried to configure brightness via the menu, I couldn't. Have you seen this behavior again? |
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| 22:18.17 | brlcad | i haven't seen that behavior on irix before |
| 22:18.21 | ToughShooter | brlcad: When I sub the include of <math.h> with <cmath> it works again |
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| 22:18.27 | brlcad | although I was probably the last to try, and that was well over a year ago |
| 22:18.48 | brlcad | ToughShooter: yeah, I'm working on the isnan problems now |
| 22:18.53 | brlcad | you're on 10.4 i assume? |
| 22:19.11 | ToughShooter | Yes, I'm always on the problem^Wcutting edge |
| 22:19.41 | brlcad | i've been working on isnan for 10.3 for several days now |
| 22:19.54 | trepan | ? |
| 22:20.03 | brlcad | 10.4 isn't really a problem |
| 22:20.24 | trepan | if (mac) use (x != y) ;) |
| 22:21.02 | brlcad | the problem is that there are isnan impls too, so checks for whether they exist or not cause issues |
| 22:21.15 | brlcad | there's a pretty long thread about it on the gcc list |
| 22:21.28 | brlcad | i believe I have it working just as of about 3 minutes ago |
| 22:21.43 | ToughShooter | brlcad: ok, I just wanted to make sure someone works on it (if probs don't get fixed someone forgets them I fear) |
| 22:21.55 | brlcad | nope, I was actually aiming for it to be just an isnan() call |
| 22:22.06 | trepan | with overrides? |
| 22:22.16 | brlcad | but there are configure checks |
| 22:22.18 | trepan | (#defined) |
| 22:23.09 | brlcad | doesn't override -- uses them if they exist, otherwise uses a template func that does the x != x |
| 22:23.50 | brlcad | took so long because I was trying to get it to use one of the two available ones that the system provides |
| 22:24.02 | trepan | might want to make them volatile, not sure if it'll get optimized away |
| 22:24.16 | brlcad | math.h provides a isnan macro correctly, the issue is that cmath unconditionally undefs it |
| 22:24.33 | brlcad | and then cmath only provides it if in strict c99 mode |
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| 22:25.06 | brlcad | which is all good and iso compliant |
| 22:25.25 | brlcad | but it leaves you without isnan in c++ codes that use pedantic, which we do |
| 22:26.21 | brlcad | gcc (or maybe glibc) conceeded in 10.4 and made it not do that undef so the macro prevails if you want it |
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| 22:39.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (playing.cxx CommandsImplementation.cxx): remove the std:: namespace from isnan so that macro overrides can be provided for systems that are strictly iso compliant where isnan is not provided in the std:: namespace when compiling pedantic. |
| 22:40.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/bz_Locale.h: if already included, the class name is Locale not BZLocale |
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| 22:43.00 | romfis | hi |
| 22:45.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/common.h: |
| 22:45.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: including cmath after/before math.h can cause an isnan macro from C99 to get |
| 22:45.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: undefined, so be consistent to provoke this behavior more readily. provide out |
| 22:45.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: own isnan template function based on a custom configure check. if both |
| 22:45.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: std::isnan() and isnan() (macro or otherwise) fail to work, use our own template |
| 22:45.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: function. this fixes the build on os x 10.3, for example. |
| 22:48.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/m4/isnan.m4: initial isnan.m4 file that checks whether there's some form of the isnan() macro/function available on the sytem, correspondingly defining HAVE_ symbols. |
| 22:48.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/m4/Makefile.am: include the new isnan.m4 file |
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| 22:50.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/m4/isnan.m4: er, don't bother checking the private gcc extension namespace for now. checking for std::isnan and isnan along should be sufficient |
| 22:52.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.ac: utilize the new BZ_FUNC_ISNAN m4 macro that includes somewhat pmore practical checks for std::isnan and isnan that you get with AC_CHECK_FUNCS. also check for the cmath, inttypes.h and sys/types.h headers |
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| 22:57.18 | learner | that should do it |
| 22:57.49 | DTRemenak | *sigh* |
| 22:57.55 | learner | give the compiles a test, see if it works .. made one windows header include change .. "seemed" benign |
| 22:58.12 | learner | DTRemenak: heh, oops? :) |
| 22:58.13 | DTRemenak | we have _isnan ;) |
| 22:58.38 | DTRemenak | but there's already a workaround for std::isnan that we need to take out |
| 22:58.44 | DTRemenak | I'm workin' on it |
| 22:58.46 | learner | yeah, I saw that |
| 22:59.11 | learner | was going to merge it in, but figured I'd get this much in first before intentionally breaking it on windows.. |
| 22:59.58 | learner | if it's broken now, it's unintentional.. :) |
| 23:00.01 | DTRemenak | well, yeah, because we have std::isnan in win32.h, and _isnan in math, but we don't have any isnan at all :) |
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| 23:00.46 | learner | should just be a matter of adding HAVE_STD__ISNAN to your win_config.h |
| 23:01.03 | DTRemenak | but we DON'T have std::isnan, except as a workaround |
| 23:01.05 | spldart | is it safe to try out the latest 2.1 or is there going to be more code changed today? |
| 23:01.13 | DTRemenak | I'm going for #elif defined(HAVE__ISNAN) in common.h |
| 23:01.25 | learner | yeah, that's a good way too |
| 23:01.46 | learner | spldart, if you're not comfortable with changes on head then it's never safe :) |
| 23:01.55 | learner | no guarantees |
| 23:02.19 | spldart | Yeah.. but I think you know what I meant :) |
| 23:03.41 | DTRemenak | spldart: put another way, it's always safe :) |
| 23:03.58 | DTRemenak | it's either broken or it's not |
| 23:04.04 | DTRemenak | if it's broken, no harm done |
| 23:04.08 | DTRemenak | if it's not broken, it works |
| 23:04.13 | learner | and harm is done |
| 23:04.18 | DTRemenak | possibly :) |
| 23:05.20 | spldart | hehe |
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| 23:09.40 | DTRemenak | heh, fun |
| 23:09.55 | learner | not really, but it's been so long.. :) |
| 23:10.05 | learner | i give it 5 minutes |
| 23:10.12 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): this here platform has _isnan(x), not std::isnan(x), and certainly not isnan(x). |
| 23:13.11 | DTRemenak | probably should try a ming build and see if we need an _isnan check in configure too |
| 23:13.47 | DTRemenak | wonder what else is broken in ming... |
| 23:16.30 | brlcad | i was just going to add that to m4/isnan.m4 but then realized they may have an isnan or std::isnan .. |
| 23:20.13 | learner | wow, autogen'd and configured without a hitch on irix.. |
| 23:20.49 | learner | heh, and now it fails in ares |
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| 23:43.49 | SilverFox | where can I find the handdrawn looking tank I saw somewhere? It was made to look like an O'Rielly in a nutshell book. |
| 23:47.44 | trepan | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=71311#71311 |
| 23:50.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (12 files in 2 dirs): check for arpa/nameser_compat.h, ares uses it but irix doesn't provide it |
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| 23:56.47 | SilverFox | trepan, that's pretty wild. Not really what I was looking for though. |
| 23:58.45 | JeffM_ | it was from an article on GPL type licenses |