| 00:33.15 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/server/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:33.15 | CIA-3 | opencombat: add server side world classes |
| 00:33.15 | CIA-3 | opencombat: let server build the random worlds |
| 00:33.38 | CBG | *gasp* |
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| 00:53.02 | JeffM2501 | configure |
| 00:53.07 | JeffM2501 | what woudl it need a configure for? |
| 00:53.21 | JeffM2501 | so it'll take longer to build an app that crashes? |
| 00:54.20 | CBG | heh |
| 00:54.27 | CBG | at least you're honest, jeff. :) |
| 00:54.49 | JeffM2501 | I don't want it to crash |
| 00:54.53 | JeffM2501 | but it does |
| 00:55.05 | CBG | well, nobody wants anything to crash... |
| 00:55.20 | JeffM2501 | actualy virus authors want that |
| 00:55.22 | CBG | unless your some kind of terrorist and we're talking about aircraft... |
| 00:55.24 | JeffM2501 | as well as testers |
| 00:55.29 | CBG | well, yeah... |
| 00:55.45 | CBG | but nobody creates a program with the objective of making it crash |
| 00:56.02 | JeffM2501 | I just don't expect that code to build on linux till somone with linux knowledge takes a crack at it |
| 00:56.11 | TD-Linux | google 'segmentation fault' |
| 00:56.22 | TD-Linux | someone wrote a 1-line program to do just that |
| 00:56.23 | JeffM2501 | why are you trying to build it? |
| 00:56.43 | TD-Linux | no reason |
| 00:57.08 | CBG | CIA-*Three*? |
| 00:57.09 | JeffM2501 | do you just want to see the message "Disconected ( Press Escape to return to the menu )" |
| 00:57.22 | JeffM2501 | it's what ever CIA we get |
| 00:57.42 | CBG | right :) |
| 00:58.25 | JeffM2501 | I'm sorry, it'll be "Conecting to 127.0.0.1" for one frame THEN, "Disconected ( Press Escape to return to the menu )" |
| 00:58.32 | JeffM2501 | on a grass background |
| 00:59.05 | CBG | Is it nice grass? |
| 00:59.19 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 00:59.23 | CBG | :( |
| 00:59.31 | trepan | quit tree huggin', go concrete ;) |
| 00:59.42 | CBG | What about the font of the text... is that nice? |
| 01:00.12 | CBG | trepan: like silvercat? :P |
| 01:00.21 | romfis | hi CBG and all |
| 01:00.26 | CBG | hey romfis :) |
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| 01:00.57 | CBG | romfis: there is a bit of a party at tankwar if you are interested... Iggy, 4morebeers, SportChick, brad, mana, etc |
| 01:00.58 | trepan | yes, like silvercat (green tank on green grass is dumb) |
| 01:01.17 | JeffM2501 | trepan, probably should |
| 01:01.20 | CBG | trepan: not if you get to be green. >:) |
| 01:01.29 | romfis | hm. CBG :) |
| 01:01.43 | JeffM2501 | tho when this part is done it'll set the textures from the server |
| 01:01.44 | CBG | though I persinally have no problems with colours or anything in bzflag. |
| 01:01.51 | CBG | maybe 'cause I have changed them all. :/ |
| 01:02.11 | TD-Linux | ooh |
| 01:02.21 | trepan | JeffM2501: so does BZ, but what do you do for default? |
| 01:02.21 | JeffM2501 | who's talking about the 'flag? |
| 01:02.30 | JeffM2501 | for the menu, just the grass |
| 01:02.37 | JeffM2501 | for the random worlds, don't know yet |
| 01:02.46 | JeffM2501 | the grass looks good on the menu I think |
| 01:03.07 | JeffM2501 | the mini tanks still need treadmarks |
| 01:03.11 | JeffM2501 | and the buildings shadows |
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| 01:03.42 | JeffM2501 | and the network.. work |
| 01:03.59 | trepan | JeffM2501: dunno what you've got for an engine, but the shader junk i've done is probably drop-in |
| 01:04.00 | romfis | speaking alone? |
| 01:04.03 | romfis | oh |
| 01:04.17 | CBG | so it'll be done by thursday, JeffM2501? :P |
| 01:04.25 | JeffM2501 | I got a call to glBegin :) |
| 01:04.44 | JeffM2501 | network is my goal, not graphics |
| 01:04.58 | JeffM2501 | tho I get sidetracked by the polygons on ocasion |
| 01:06.04 | scribo | mind if I ask a question? |
| 01:06.17 | JeffM2501 | only if it's not about goats |
| 01:06.22 | CBG | ~ask |
| 01:06.24 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a quesiton first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 01:06.26 | CBG | ;) |
| 01:06.44 | scribo | sure, NOW the ibot comes in to help .... |
| 01:06.52 | JeffM2501 | actualy that FAQ is for stuck up people |
| 01:07.01 | JeffM2501 | ibot only does what is asked |
| 01:07.02 | ibot | okay, JeffM2501 |
| 01:07.03 | scribo | so I'm using v2.0.5b on a WINXP box (sorry) |
| 01:07.04 | JeffM2501 | what is your question |
| 01:07.21 | scribo | and every time I Join slivercat my client shuts down |
| 01:07.29 | JeffM2501 | does it give an error? |
| 01:07.33 | scribo | I can get to the server list, and I can join any other server |
| 01:07.43 | scribo | and the problem also happens when I use 2.0.4 |
| 01:07.49 | CBG | Well, he gets brownie points for apologising for using Win... :) :P |
| 01:07.58 | JeffM2501 | CBG, realy, shut it |
| 01:08.02 | JeffM2501 | your not helping |
| 01:08.03 | CBG | K, sorry. |
| 01:08.13 | scribo | no time for an error ... as soon as the "Downloading files" completes, the client shuts down |
| 01:08.18 | scribo | not like a ban or kick ... |
| 01:08.47 | JeffM2501 | scribo, did you build your own? or get a binary? |
| 01:09.17 | scribo | got the binary from the link in the versions msg in the forums at my.bzflag.org |
| 01:09.42 | scribo | and it was working last week ... it just stopped (and only for Silvercat) two or three days ago |
| 01:09.59 | JeffM2501 | last one was b5 |
| 01:10.09 | blast007 | try renaming the My BZFlag Files directory in your My Documents, then try using the client again |
| 01:10.15 | JeffM2501 | well it could be something on the map that that version dosn't like |
| 01:10.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah blowing out your config and stuff could help |
| 01:10.30 | blast007 | or a bad cache of some kind |
| 01:10.35 | JeffM2501 | posibly |
| 01:10.38 | CBG | it's unlikely that nobody else has noticed that, silvercat is popular. |
| 01:10.40 | JeffM2501 | good place to start |
| 01:10.44 | scribo | cleared the cache, and deleted the config.cfg and retried. |
| 01:10.52 | scribo | no joy |
| 01:10.55 | JeffM2501 | well I'd personaly use b5 |
| 01:10.58 | JeffM2501 | not b2 |
| 01:11.09 | JeffM2501 | but you'd think 2.0.4 would work |
| 01:11.24 | scribo | wait one ... please ... I want to go check my version |
| 01:11.53 | CBG | possibly a bad connection from scribo to silvercat? maybe a traceroute would show something? o.O |
| 01:11.53 | scribo | yep ... 0.5b5 |
| 01:11.57 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:12.04 | JeffM2501 | have you changed anything on your computer recently? |
| 01:12.13 | JeffM2501 | CBG, a "bad" conection should not crash a clinet |
| 01:12.21 | JeffM2501 | it would just make it not connect |
| 01:12.40 | scribo | I was going to say no, but then ... I installed TivoToGo and when it screwed with my DHCP I uninstalled it |
| 01:12.40 | CBG | True, but I aslo dont see how trying to connect to a server could cause both 2.0.4 and 2.0.5 to crash... |
| 01:12.56 | CBG | especially when it was working a week ago and now suddenly doesnt. |
| 01:13.02 | JeffM2501 | something in the world data is trigering a bug |
| 01:13.08 | scribo | and no server other than silvercat crashes my client |
| 01:13.25 | scribo | and I played slivercat almost exclusively until this started. |
| 01:13.35 | JeffM2501 | do you have another computer to try it on? |
| 01:13.44 | JeffM2501 | have you added any software or hardware recentlY? |
| 01:13.50 | blast007 | scribo: have you tried totally deleting the My BZFlag Files directory? or was that what you meant by clearing the cache? |
| 01:14.31 | scribo | wait one ... |
| 01:16.09 | scribo | OK I can get onto silvercat right now on my other machine ... so I'll rename the bzflag files directory and try again. |
| 01:16.23 | scribo | if that doesn't work I'll unistall and reinstall. |
| 01:16.30 | scribo | if that doesn't work I'll come back |
| 01:16.44 | romfis | is see scribo on silvercat and going... |
| 01:16.46 | scribo | still think it's weird that ONLY silvercat is affected |
| 01:17.00 | scribo | yeah my son is playing under my nick |
| 01:18.11 | JeffM2501 | check your video dirver and stuff too, make sure you have the current one from the chipset mfg |
| 01:18.17 | JeffM2501 | other then that, it's hard to say |
| 01:19.45 | romfis | scribo ? |
| 01:19.45 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: A bad connection could easily hang the bz client. The error checking is not what it should be. |
| 01:21.28 | scribo | sry - I'm back - deleted the whole bzflag files directory, and Bingo it works |
| 01:21.29 | JeffM2501 | hang yea, but genraly not crash, after getin the download |
| 01:21.46 | scribo | of course, ALL of my settings are back to defaults ... which sux |
| 01:21.59 | JBdiGriz | silvercat is updated fairly often, and there are a couple of plugins that run there. It recently switched from the temporary server to the real server. Make sure you are connecting to the correct IP by selecting from the server list. |
| 01:22.45 | scribo | I've been trying from the server list, especially since I tried (successfully) a different server |
| 01:22.50 | scribo | but it's working now. |
| 01:23.33 | scribo | and I'm happy about that ... but I'm still curious why ONLY silvercat was affected. |
| 01:24.41 | JeffM2501 | proably a bad cached file |
| 01:24.43 | JeffM2501 | for the map |
| 01:24.55 | JeffM2501 | or a texure it uses |
| 01:24.57 | JeffM2501 | or something like that |
| 01:25.14 | JBdiGriz | The map rotates on the main silvercat server, so it should have been replaced. |
| 01:25.41 | JeffM2501 | MD5 code changed, maybe that did someting to the cache files or something |
| 01:26.12 | JeffM2501 | hard to say what it was |
| 01:27.13 | scribo | I noticed that there were sub-dirs for trepan and some other servers, but none for Silvercat ... |
| 01:27.27 | scribo | is the cache in the my bzflag files dir or elsewhere? |
| 01:27.32 | JeffM2501 | maybe your drive ran outa space :) |
| 01:27.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah it would be in that dir |
| 01:27.59 | scribo | nah, I just cleaned off all my mp3s and p0rn so I'm goo d to go on size |
| 01:28.55 | scribo | but I'm not smart enough to figure out the naming for the cache files ... |
| 01:29.27 | JeffM2501 | they are usualy named after the MD5 checksum IIRC |
| 01:30.38 | scribo | waaaaay out of my league ... I can handle DOS command lines, but not much beyond that. |
| 01:30.50 | JeffM2501 | well att least it's working now |
| 01:30.54 | scribo | haven't dealt with a checksum since my required comp sci class in college |
| 01:30.59 | JeffM2501 | probably just crouption of some file |
| 01:30.59 | TD-Linux | which button to show tris count in bzflag? |
| 01:31.01 | JeffM2501 | no way to know now |
| 01:31.03 | scribo | and yes, it's working...thanks all |
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| 02:01.05 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/ (5 files in 5 dirs): more data to and from server, geting ready to send world over the wire. |
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| 02:47.46 | SportChick | orchid: ping |
| 02:47.48 | SportChick | learner: ping |
| 02:47.52 | SportChick | I need a tlz admin please |
| 02:49.19 | brlcad | tender lovin' zeebrothers? |
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| 03:13.54 | brlcad | silly kids |
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| 03:29.38 | lan56 | someone forgot to commit bzfsMessages.h |
| 03:29.46 | lan56 | unless I am doing something wrong (most likely) |
| 03:30.16 | lan56 | also the other bzfs*.h headers line 50-53 in bzfs.cxx |
| 03:30.56 | JeffM2501 | the H file should be in cvs |
| 03:31.15 | lan56 | which directory, and how long ago was it commited? |
| 03:31.21 | JeffM2501 | like over a month |
| 03:31.30 | lan56 | hmm |
| 03:31.31 | JeffM2501 | should be in src/bzfs |
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| 03:31.57 | lan56 | let me reupdate, I knew I missed something |
| 03:33.19 | lan56 | well I don't receive it in my updates, but it is my problem because it is commited as I see on sf.net |
| 03:33.33 | lan56 | as you said too |
| 03:33.55 | JeffM2501 | how are you updating? |
| 03:33.58 | JeffM2501 | with -d? |
| 03:34.17 | lan56 | yes |
| 03:34.21 | lan56 | no good? |
| 03:34.27 | JeffM2501 | should get them all |
| 03:34.32 | JeffM2501 | tho I don't use command line |
| 03:34.33 | JeffM2501 | so dono |
| 03:34.43 | lan56 | neither do I, I use tortoisecvs |
| 03:34.59 | JeffM2501 | so you don;'t specify -d :) |
| 03:35.18 | lan56 | well it has "-d" in quotes |
| 03:35.29 | lan56 | cvs.exe" "-q" "update" "-d" "-P" "src/bzfs" |
| 03:35.57 | JeffM2501 | ext or pserver |
| 03:35.57 | lan56 | ext |
| 03:36.10 | JeffM2501 | should work |
| 03:36.34 | lan56 | yeah I must be doing something wrong. I'll figure it out sooner or later |
| 03:37.19 | trepan | no textures on the object: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/colorBox.jpg |
| 03:37.44 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 03:38.48 | brlcad | lan56: perhaps a conflict on update |
| 03:39.02 | lan56 | doesnt seem to report any |
| 03:43.45 | brlcad | are you on the branch? |
| 03:43.53 | lan56 | HEAD? yes |
| 03:44.08 | brlcad | branch would be v2_0branch |
| 03:44.16 | brlcad | so you're on head |
| 03:44.18 | JeffM2501 | branch dosn't have that folder |
| 03:44.20 | JeffM2501 | file |
| 03:44.37 | lan56 | well whatever the latest bzflag version in cvs is |
| 03:44.46 | lan56 | I have a separate 2_0branch which updates well |
| 03:45.37 | brlcad | run a cvs status on src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.h |
| 03:45.46 | lan56 | k hold on |
| 03:46.33 | lan56 | wait I don't have that file in either folders |
| 03:46.44 | lan56 | v2_0branch or the latest stuff |
| 03:46.55 | JeffM2501 | 2.0 will NOT have that fuile |
| 03:46.56 | JeffM2501 | file |
| 03:46.59 | JeffM2501 | it is only in head |
| 03:47.11 | JeffM2501 | I did not split it out for anything other then head |
| 03:47.15 | lan56 | ok then I don't have it |
| 03:50.07 | lan56 | well its okay there are more important things in the world to worry about. thank you both for the help |
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| 04:15.00 | flizzoyd83 | What is the accuracy of Timekeeper:getTick()? is it in milliseconds? |
| 04:15.44 | flizzoyd83 | I'd look at doxygen, but it seems to be down |
| 04:19.49 | brlcad | flizzoyd83: accuracy? framerate accurate.. updates once per frame |
| 04:20.45 | flizzoyd83 | I mean, does it return the time in milliseconds? |
| 04:28.58 | brlcad | it returns a TimeKeepeer of the last time setTick() was called |
| 04:29.15 | brlcad | so .. basically can be treated as a float |
| 04:29.51 | brlcad | which is nsec since epoc |
| 04:30.45 | flizzoyd83 | oh ok, thanks |
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| 15:44.53 | gsnedders | you tked me! it's your fault! |
| 15:44.55 | gsnedders | :\ |
| 15:45.34 | gsnedders | after a tk with a GM locked on the enemy... |
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| 17:34.44 | bz54 | hi bz flag clan |
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| 17:43.08 | a-delusion | i was wondering if anything was being inserted into 2.1 to force players to join a certain team. for league play |
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| 17:43.56 | RPG_ | or a /team switch command to swithc players |
| 17:44.06 | a-delusion | it's the only problem RPG and I couldn't get around with our previous league, you'd always have to tell players, "you join red, you join blue" before beginning a match |
| 17:44.15 | RPG_ | or even an API function so the plugin can do it all |
| 17:46.58 | JeffM2501 | there is an API callback that is called when the server needs to asign a team for automatic |
| 17:47.05 | JeffM2501 | the plugin can then pick the real team |
| 17:47.29 | RPG_ | ok |
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| 19:00.20 | TheRedBaron | ~seen jpa_ |
| 19:00.31 | ibot | jpa_ <i=jpa@lakka.kapsi.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 193d 42m 24s ago, saying: 'i just don't like c++ :P'. |
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| 19:01.16 | TheRedBaron | ~seen jpa- |
| 19:01.19 | ibot | jpa- <i=jpa@lakka.kapsi.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 64d 8h 20m 53s ago, saying: 'y/wc'. |
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| 22:07.10 | TD-Linux | lol.... it's thundering and snowing outside :) |
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| 22:07.19 | TheRedBaron | cool |
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| 22:38.36 | TD-Linux | what is the linux extension for plugins? I thought it was .so, but I'm not getting any when I make. |
| 22:38.53 | Tupone | look inside .lib |
| 22:39.15 | TD-Linux | inside .libs... |
| 22:39.31 | Tupone | TD-Linux: again using linux :) |
| 22:39.38 | TD-Linux | I have: .lai, .la, .a |
| 22:39.56 | TD-Linux | no .so |
| 22:40.27 | Tupone | in the plugins directories? you did enable shared ? |
| 22:40.34 | Tupone | and what version is ? |
| 22:40.50 | TD-Linux | I am using the stock plugins and makefiles |
| 22:40.58 | TD-Linux | v2.0branch |
| 22:42.02 | TD-Linux | what do you mean, enable shared? |
| 22:42.08 | Tupone | I think you should --enable-shared |
| 22:42.17 | TD-Linux | with ./configure? or make? |
| 22:42.21 | Tupone | configure |
| 22:43.03 | TD-Linux | ok, trying that |
| 22:43.10 | TD-Linux | shouldn't that be a default option? |
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| 22:46.28 | TD-Linux | oh my, it's RPG_! |
| 22:46.30 | RPG_ | i have some feature requests for the BZBB |
| 22:46.36 | TD-Linux | come to #masterbot |
| 22:47.00 | RPG_ | alright |
| 22:48.29 | RPG_ | anyways, could a script be made to accept inputs of a BZBB username + password + recipient + message, and have it send a PM to that user? |
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| 22:53.37 | trepan | JeffM2501: happen to have any RGB+Spec / Normal+Height texture sets? |
| 22:54.26 | romfis_ | . |
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| 23:37.33 | JeffM_ | trepan, not on me |
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| 23:43.04 | brlcad | TD-Linux: it's not the default for compilation performance and libtool reasons, it's fixed on head better |
| 23:43.36 | JeffM2501 | now the joy of samba config :( |
| 23:46.47 | JeffM2501 | heh, when is sigraph again? maybe I can give DTR another computer |
| 23:47.09 | brlcad | last week of july, first of aug |
| 23:47.17 | JeffM2501 | is it here again? |
| 23:47.20 | brlcad | cept it's in boston |
| 23:47.30 | brlcad | next year it'll be in san diego |
| 23:48.10 | JeffM2501 | hmm little long to hold onto a 1 gig P3 |
| 23:48.59 | JeffM2501 | I replaced my old linux server (sasami) with a new "great quality" computer |
| 23:49.04 | purple_cow | yay boston |
| 23:49.08 | purple_cow | much cooler place than LA |
| 23:49.54 | JeffM2501 | new one has an AMD "geode" CPU in it |
| 23:50.02 | JeffM2501 | had never heard of it, but it was cheap has hell |
| 23:50.18 | brlcad | yeah, boston is pretty cheap ;) |
| 23:50.30 | JeffM2501 | and not LA |
| 23:50.47 | brlcad | no kidding.. that's a lot of years to repeat the same state |
| 23:50.56 | brlcad | not that I don't mind the fine company |
| 23:51.01 | brlcad | but some variety is nice |
| 23:51.06 | JeffM2501 | they should have them out here :) |
| 23:51.11 | JeffM2501 | not in stuffy LA |
| 23:51.19 | JeffM2501 | tho we don't have a convention center :( |
| 23:52.46 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, does OSX put it self in a windows "workgroup" anywhere? |
| 23:53.03 | brlcad | not that I'm aware of |
| 23:53.15 | JeffM2501 | ok, then I'm not just missing it :) |
| 23:53.17 | brlcad | but I haven't looked into it very much |
| 23:53.36 | JeffM2501 | I'm changing the windows machines, didn't know if I had to change the mac too |
| 23:54.54 | purple_cow | SF would be nice in a couple years :) |
| 23:55.15 | JeffM2501 | frisco is fun |
| 23:55.22 | JeffM2501 | tho they'd probably have it in san jose |
| 23:55.41 | llugh | It's a LOT cheaper in SJ then in SF. |
| 23:55.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:55.58 | JeffM2501 | I think that's why so many places have it in SJ |
| 23:56.11 | brlcad | SF is the most requested of all cities |
| 23:56.18 | llugh | :r) |
| 23:56.19 | JeffM2501 | GDC is in SJ IIRC |
| 23:56.25 | brlcad | it's also the most expensive of all cities |
| 23:57.36 | brlcad | which is why siggraph's never been, they aim to keep the expense at a constant rate |
| 23:58.07 | llugh | So when is bzflag-2.1 scheduled to go stable? Since I compliled the CVS code I don't get the horrid crashs of previous versions, but there is no one to fight on the curren 2.1 test servers! |
| 23:58.41 | JeffM2501 | probably not till way after 2.0.6, and when it has like real features |
| 23:58.50 | JeffM2501 | it would be released as 2.2.0 |
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| 23:59.08 | brlcad | llugh: hard to say about the crashes, you'd need to test the exact same maps and interactions |
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| 23:59.21 | brlcad | much of the graphical has changed, though, so it is possible |
| 23:59.41 | brlcad | and yeah, 2.0.6 is going to be first |
