| 00:00.01 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, RUN IN THE DEBUGER |
| 00:00.04 | JeffM2501 | that just says it crashed |
| 00:00.17 | JeffM2501 | use the tools you have |
| 00:00.24 | JeffM2501 | for the 10,000th time |
| 00:00.32 | TD-Linux | I did run it in the debugger... where would the debugger log be? |
| 00:00.41 | JeffM2501 | the debuger dosn't log |
| 00:00.50 | JeffM2501 | when it crashes it will break on the exception |
| 00:00.55 | JeffM2501 | then you can see where int he code it does |
| 00:00.57 | JeffM2501 | dies |
| 00:01.00 | trepan | TD-Linux: if it gets committed, it'll come as one big bundle |
| 00:01.04 | JeffM2501 | all graphicaly |
| 00:01.24 | TD-Linux | trepan: ooh! with those pretty shadows? |
| 00:02.29 | TD-Linux | when I debug, it just shows some debug windows, then starts BZFlag |
| 00:02.34 | trepan | yes, shadow maps and all, but i've lost interest of late |
| 00:02.34 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:02.37 | JeffM2501 | then make it crash |
| 00:02.54 | TD-Linux | when BZFlag crashes, they dissapear and that text I pastebin'ed is all I see |
| 00:03.18 | JeffM2501 | then you have to put a breakpoint in the main loop and step thru and see where it dies |
| 00:03.37 | trepan | someone could convert 2.2 to use another gfx engine within a week, so all my custom code is probably for naught ;) |
| 00:04.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah but we've allways heard about 'someone' but never seen him/her |
| 00:05.21 | trepan | it's a bad-hand month for me, so i'm out of the running |
| 00:06.02 | JeffM2501 | did you ever have that surgery? |
| 00:06.57 | trepan | isn't worth doing until the hand is crippled, so says the doc |
| 00:07.07 | JeffM2501 | that sucks |
| 00:07.24 | JeffM2501 | oh for cheap bionic replacements |
| 00:09.41 | TD-Linux | hmm.... /me came across a timebomb |
| 00:13.01 | TD-Linux | never put breakpoints in BZFlag then run it fullscreen :P |
| 00:13.26 | JeffM2501 | that's fine |
| 00:13.36 | JeffM2501 | just put your debuger on one of your other displays |
| 00:13.41 | TD-Linux | well......... |
| 00:13.43 | TD-Linux | um |
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| 00:40.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:40.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: move flag cap message into split files. |
| 00:40.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add api for flag cap to local players. |
| 00:40.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: move flag cheat detection into master cheats file. |
| 00:40.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: cleanups. |
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| 00:50.02 | CBG | lol @ ibot |
| 00:50.40 | DTRemenak | whoopsie |
| 00:53.34 | DTRemenak | and here I thought I was being all clever and such :( |
| 00:54.52 | bryjen | hmm |
| 00:54.57 | bryjen | ibot: onjoin bryjen |
| 00:57.23 | DTRemenak | heh, just struck me how it makes sense not to run / commands in onjoin... "onjoin #bzflag bryjen /kick bryjen muwahahaha..." |
| 00:58.29 | bryjen | heh, any /commands really. ibot is op'd. nice escalation of priveledge exploit. |
| 00:59.08 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:59.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o ibot] by JeffM2501 |
| 00:59.17 | DTRemenak | yeah :) |
| 00:59.22 | JeffM2501 | bad ibot |
| 01:01.27 | bryjen | ibot: literal cmd: bzfrag (.*?) |
| 01:01.29 | ibot | "cmd: bzfrag (.*?)" is "($1): <action> (fries $1 with a laser|destroys $1 with a guided missle|makes $1 feel the effects of a shockwave|blindsides $1 with an invisible bullet|skewers $1 with a super bullet|kills $1 with a shot from his BZTank|squishes $1 with a steamroller|tries to kill $1, but finds the shield flag)" |
| 01:01.44 | bryjen | ah. <action> may be what you needed, DTR |
| 01:01.59 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 01:02.15 | DTRemenak | not that it does much good now ;) |
| 01:02.23 | DTRemenak | was counting on the surprise value :) |
| 01:02.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (data/title.png misc/art/title.psd): new logo for 2.1.x, we'll see where it ends up |
| 01:03.07 | JeffM2501 | 5$ says everyone hates it |
| 01:04.01 | JeffM2501 | but the PSD is in misc now, so it can be edited |
| 01:04.17 | DTRemenak | psd! but that's a closed format! |
| 01:04.38 | JeffM2501 | but gimp reads it |
| 01:04.43 | JeffM2501 | so not so closed ;) |
| 01:04.46 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 01:05.00 | JeffM2501 | only thing that woudl keep the layers |
| 01:05.28 | JeffM2501 | tho dosn't png support some sort of layers? |
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| 01:08.09 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 01:08.58 | JeffM2501 | well it should :) |
| 01:09.09 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 01:09.18 | DTRemenak | that's what transparency is for :P |
| 01:09.37 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:09.44 | JeffM2501 | tho for editing you want more then that |
| 01:10.02 | JeffM2501 | heck if we swaped to devIL bzflag could read psds :) |
| 01:10.09 | DTRemenak | ewww |
| 01:10.23 | DTRemenak | can you imagine having to download psds to play a map? |
| 01:10.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah, not small |
| 01:10.33 | DTRemenak | or tiffs? |
| 01:10.42 | JeffM2501 | gack |
| 01:10.47 | JeffM2501 | tiffs are horible |
| 01:10.58 | JeffM2501 | the only format that makes them LARGER |
| 01:11.22 | JeffM2501 | it's like negitive compresion |
| 01:13.17 | CBG | negative compresion. w00t |
| 01:14.26 | brad2901 | CBG: compression* :p |
| 01:14.41 | CBG | I copied what jeff said ;) |
| 01:14.58 | brad2901 | you changed negative though.. :S |
| 01:15.05 | CBG | Yep. |
| 01:15.10 | CBG | and copied compresion. |
| 01:15.11 | trepan | gimp format keeps layers, as do some of the oss svg progs. |
| 01:15.30 | DTRemenak | mmm, svg logo |
| 01:15.40 | DTRemenak | that would fix scaling |
| 01:19.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (22 files): more fun with microsoft's newest. vc8 has unsigned 64-bit long size_t and spits out warnings when assigning int = container.size(). also uses 64-bit pointers, so pointer arithmetic might need casts too. |
| 01:20.50 | DTRemenak | I'm sure I'll be breaking y'all gcc folks sometime here. yell at me if I'm doing something stupid. |
| 01:21.16 | benplaut | you're always doing something stupid -_- |
| 01:21.40 | DTRemenak | thanks benplaut, I really needed that :) |
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| 01:22.23 | trepan | benplaut: was that wit? |
| 01:22.51 | benplaut | a feable attempt at it |
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| 03:01.52 | pianoboy3333 | How do I get BzEdit Working on Linux? What do I compile? |
| 03:02.00 | pianoboy3333 | What do I do??? |
| 03:02.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): more fun with microsoft's newest. vc8 has unsigned 64-bit long size_t and spits out warnings when assigning int = container.size(). also uses 64-bit pointers, so pointer arithmetic might need casts too. |
| 03:03.15 | pianoboy3333 | Can anyone help me setup BzEdit on linux? |
| 03:03.29 | wizatcomputer | let me look |
| 03:04.21 | wizatcomputer | have you tried, by chance, ./configure |
| 03:04.21 | wizatcomputer | ? |
| 03:04.29 | wizatcomputer | in the dir with the source? |
| 03:06.46 | pianoboy3333 | wizatcomputer: there is no configure fil |
| 03:06.49 | pianoboy3333 | wizatcomputer: there is no configure file |
| 03:06.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/game/CacheManager.cxx: work around what I presume is a bug in vc8. |
| 03:07.27 | pianoboy3333 | wizatcomputer: what file should I be downloading? I have the bzeditw32, but I don't think thats for linux |
| 03:07.45 | wizatcomputer | it's not |
| 03:07.50 | wizatcomputer | you need the source |
| 03:07.59 | pianoboy3333 | yea, well that is |
| 03:08.05 | wizatcomputer | no it's not |
| 03:08.21 | pianoboy3333 | Ok, so give me a link to the page and tell me what to download |
| 03:08.42 | wizatcomputer | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248 |
| 03:09.13 | pianoboy3333 | bzedit source? |
| 03:09.24 | purple_cow | you probably want to use the windows version in wine |
| 03:09.29 | wizatcomputer | that's what you seem to want |
| 03:09.31 | purple_cow | linux version hasn't been touched in a long time |
| 03:09.45 | pianoboy3333 | oh.......... |
| 03:09.46 | pianoboy3333 | ok |
| 03:09.58 | wizatcomputer | they both show the same ver and modified date, purple_cow |
| 03:10.02 | purple_cow | at least, i don't think... |
| 03:10.22 | wizatcomputer | yup, same version |
| 03:10.23 | purple_cow | oh |
| 03:10.25 | wizatcomputer | 1.6.5 |
| 03:10.31 | purple_cow | that "bzedit source" there is probably the source to the windows version |
| 03:10.32 | pianoboy3333 | Whichever, just tell me what to do, I'm downloading BZEditW32_1.6.5_Source.zip right? |
| 03:10.42 | pianoboy3333 | Yea I think that is the windows |
| 03:10.46 | pianoboy3333 | but what ever |
| 03:10.56 | pianoboy3333 | I d care if I use it with wine |
| 03:11.04 | pianoboy3333 | as long as I get it working :) |
| 03:11.46 | wizatcomputer | oops, purple_cow is right |
| 03:12.06 | pianoboy3333 | Its downloaded on my desktop, now? |
| 03:12.06 | wizatcomputer | indeed, i was looking at bzedit, not realizing the package was for bzeditw32 source |
| 03:12.29 | pianoboy3333 | But I think we might be able to get it able to work with wine |
| 03:12.44 | pianoboy3333 | but how? |
| 03:13.49 | pianoboy3333 | anyone? |
| 03:13.54 | pianoboy3333 | I'm hopeless.... |
| 03:14.56 | wizatcomputer | open bzeditw32 in wine |
| 03:15.01 | wizatcomputer | and hope it works |
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| 03:15.23 | pianoboy3333 | wizatcomputer: but its a folder....? |
| 03:15.55 | wizatcomputer | you DLed both bzeditw32 and bzeditw32source, correct? |
| 03:16.21 | pianoboy3333 | ? |
| 03:16.35 | pianoboy3333 | What's DLed? |
| 03:16.42 | wizatcomputer | DownLoaded |
| 03:17.24 | pianoboy3333 | I downloaded the zip BZEditW32_1.6.5_Source.zip |
| 03:17.24 | pianoboy3333 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.53 | wizatcomputer | "wizatcomputer: what file should I be downloading? I have the bzeditw32, but I don't think thats for linux" |
| 03:18.07 | pianoboy3333 | yea? |
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| 03:18.19 | wizatcomputer | so do you or don't you have bzeditw32? |
| 03:18.27 | pianoboy3333 | I got that zip |
| 03:18.34 | pianoboy3333 | Its extracted onto my desktop |
| 03:18.41 | wizatcomputer | ok... so run the exe in wine |
| 03:18.43 | pianoboy3333 | the folder is bzeditw32 |
| 03:18.52 | pianoboy3333 | OH! |
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| 03:19.02 | pianoboy3333 | Get the windows version, don't compile the source |
| 03:19.04 | pianoboy3333 | gotch |
| 03:19.05 | pianoboy3333 | a |
| 03:19.06 | pianoboy3333 | ... |
| 03:19.06 | wizatcomputer | yup |
| 03:21.40 | pianoboy3333 | ya think it'll work? |
| 03:21.48 | wizatcomputer | worth a shot |
| 03:21.56 | pianoboy3333 | just go to the folder and click on it? |
| 03:22.10 | wizatcomputer | i dunno; i've never used wine |
| 03:22.12 | wizatcomputer | brb |
| 03:22.42 | pianoboy3333 | kk |
| 03:25.40 | pianoboy3333 | hmmmmmm |
| 03:25.51 | blast007 | it won't work with the newer WINE afaik |
| 03:26.08 | blast007 | so depending on your version of wine, you might be out of luck |
| 03:26.18 | pianoboy3333 | I have 0.9.7...... |
| 03:26.18 | blast007 | might also need extra DLL files |
| 03:26.30 | pianoboy3333 | from where? |
| 03:26.42 | blast007 | depends what it says you need :P |
| 03:27.11 | pianoboy3333 | What will say what? |
| 03:27.35 | blast007 | when you run "wine nameof.exe" |
| 03:27.47 | blast007 | it would say if you need DLLs |
| 03:28.03 | blast007 | then you can google for them |
| 03:28.45 | pianoboy3333 | It 1/2 works |
| 03:29.04 | pianoboy3333 | when it runs the menus go away until I put my mouse over them |
| 03:29.21 | blast007 | yup, that's an issue with the newer WINE version |
| 03:30.02 | blast007 | theres some other editors, but I don't know what they all are.. |
| 03:30.34 | blast007 | there isn't any 2.0.x editors |
| 03:31.01 | pianoboy3333 | yea i just googled it |
| 03:31.13 | pianoboy3333 | hmmmmm |
| 03:31.21 | pianoboy3333 | I heard of a pyBzEdit |
| 03:31.22 | blast007 | there's a pybzedit |
| 03:31.25 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 03:31.25 | pianoboy3333 | yea |
| 03:31.31 | pianoboy3333 | lemme check that out |
| 03:35.18 | pianoboy3333 | where can I get wxPython |
| 03:38.46 | blast007 | google |
| 03:39.11 | blast007 | or maybe even your package manager |
| 03:43.43 | pianoboy3333 | hmmmm |
| 03:44.11 | pianoboy3333 | there are no ubuntu rpms on the python site |
| 03:44.57 | blast007 | http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/wxPython_20with_20Ubuntu |
| 03:45.03 | pianoboy3333 | thx |
| 03:45.26 | pianoboy3333 | hmmmm thats Hoary tho |
| 03:45.33 | pianoboy3333 | It should work :) |
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| 04:12.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. |
| 04:12.52 | Digital_Pioneer | I'm having a little trouble with BZFlag 2.0.5 b4 on Windows. You developers might want to look in to this. |
| 04:13.03 | Digital_Pioneer | Sometimes while I'm playing, the game just freezes. |
| 04:13.23 | Digital_Pioneer | My computer is responsive, but the game just stops. Nothing happens. |
| 04:14.01 | Digital_Pioneer | I can stop it by killing the process, but then my screen is pale until I restart. |
| 04:15.24 | Digital_Pioneer | This also happens in build 5. |
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| 04:16.29 | Digital_Pioneer | And it isn't my computer, because it has happened on two of my computers. |
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| 05:01.08 | brlcad | orange: a bzfs of yours core dumped, in case you didn't notice |
| 05:05.01 | DTRemenak | yay core dump! |
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| 13:47.45 | Pommes | hi all |
| 13:48.12 | Pommes | any admin here ? |
| 13:48.37 | CBG | Hey Pommes |
| 13:48.38 | brad2901 | hi Pommes |
| 13:48.55 | Pommes | I can't ping my.bzflag.org |
| 13:49.14 | Pommes | and glob-login doesn't work then |
| 13:49.25 | blast007 | m.b.o is working for me |
| 13:49.34 | Pommes | yes - for others too. |
| 13:49.38 | Pommes | it's just me ... |
| 13:49.50 | CBG | must be - my.bzflag.org is ok for me too. |
| 13:50.02 | Pommes | any hints why that is ? |
| 13:50.10 | CBG | Perhaps try a traecroute..? |
| 13:50.17 | blast007 | what OS? |
| 13:50.27 | Pommes | linux |
| 13:50.38 | blast007 | oh...nvm..not sure how to clear the DNS cache on linux |
| 13:50.56 | Pommes | it's not dns. |
| 13:51.11 | Pommes | if i ping 69.28.129.167 it doesn't work either |
| 13:52.17 | blast007 | hmm |
| 13:52.58 | CBG | Perhaps try a traecroute..? |
| 13:53.09 | Pommes | yes - wait - just installing it ... |
| 13:53.14 | Pommes | thx for the hint |
| 13:58.14 | Pommes | masses of * * * |
| 13:58.36 | CBG | what is the last place you get to, before all thr ***'s? |
| 13:58.57 | Pommes | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.13 | Pommes | any hints about that? |
| 14:06.20 | CBG | Nope. :/ |
| 14:07.40 | Pommes | ah :-( |
| 14:09.11 | brlcad | can you ping 69.28.129.166 ? |
| 14:09.40 | Pommes | no - same problem |
| 14:10.03 | brlcad | can you ping bz.bzflag.bz |
| 14:10.13 | Pommes | yes! |
| 14:14.30 | Pommes | does that help me somehow ? |
| 14:19.13 | ToughShooter | To give a comparision: http://pastebin.com/549753 |
| 14:20.21 | ToughShooter | Can you ping was-e4.was.us.net.dtag.de? |
| 14:21.01 | Pommes | no |
| 14:21.22 | Pommes | i get the IP-adr. but no packets |
| 14:21.35 | ToughShooter | Ah, so it works for you ok within the country but the connection over the big pond seems to be broken |
| 14:21.42 | Pommes | hm |
| 14:21.56 | Pommes | so that's a DTelekom-problem ... |
| 14:22.37 | Pommes | but why does it work for other german users ? |
| 14:22.37 | ToughShooter | From http://pastebin.com/549756 you can see the path to bz.bzflag.bz is quite different |
| 14:22.52 | Pommes | yes - I noticed. |
| 14:23.07 | Pommes | can I do anything to get a different route ?? |
| 14:23.30 | ToughShooter | Well, I use the same backbone you use, but I'm located somewhere else, it could be a broken router within the ISPs network |
| 14:24.07 | Pommes | hm - sounds reasonable |
| 14:24.15 | ToughShooter | You can do nothing (...) only wait and hope it gets fixed or try to tell ISP |
| 14:24.16 | Pommes | then the only thing I can do is wait ... |
| 14:24.21 | Pommes | yes |
| 14:24.27 | Pommes | I already asked my ISP |
| 14:24.32 | Pommes | they say everything is fine |
| 14:26.32 | Pommes | well - but thanks for helping me ... |
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| 18:23.56 | LayDeekilla | who has all permissions on the new www.bzflag.at server with pacman style? |
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| 20:24.27 | Nichotin | any admins from bzflag.fiedlers.us here? I just want to ask if I could have your lovely map to use on a non-public server |
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| 20:32.43 | brad2901 | Nichotin: Send a PM to badgerking on the forums |
| 20:32.53 | Nichotin | aha. thank you |
| 20:35.18 | gsnedders | Nichotin, I dunno. do as brad2901 said. |
| 20:35.37 | brad2901 | he made the map, so he would be the best person to ask ;) |
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| 20:38.25 | Nichotin | pm sent |
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| 22:29.56 | menotume | we have a cheater making the bzfs rounds |
| 22:30.02 | menotume | callsign = longdonisgay |
| 22:33.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: Public server abuse (longdonisgay) |
| 22:33.54 | menotume | you saw him too ? |
| 22:34.21 | menotume | brlcad: you saw him too ? |
| 22:34.32 | brlcad | nope |
| 22:34.52 | menotume | ahhh. maybe i made it up :P |
| 22:35.08 | menotume | did you see my PM about bzfs CPU usage ? |
| 22:35.12 | brlcad | maybe you did, but I checked ;) |
| 22:35.17 | menotume | lol :) |
| 22:35.58 | brlcad | yes I did |
| 22:36.05 | menotume | strange |
| 22:36.06 | brlcad | nobody has had time to profile it |
| 22:36.19 | brlcad | it's been high on that server for a long time, rises with activity |
| 22:36.22 | menotume | ok, just wanted you to know |
| 22:36.26 | brlcad | thanks |
| 22:36.33 | menotume | mthis is a new server - silvercat |
| 22:36.45 | menotume | but, it can be very active |
| 22:36.46 | brlcad | ahh, but where? |
| 22:36.58 | menotume | silvercat.bzflag.bz :) |
| 22:37.04 | brlcad | yeah |
| 22:37.38 | brlcad | seems to be map/config specific, maybe related to replay dunno -- haven't looked into it |
| 22:37.44 | menotume | should be only one plugin - my nagware one |
| 22:37.51 | menotume | okies |
| 22:37.59 | brlcad | did check plugins a few weeks ago |
| 22:38.00 | menotume | i'll see if i can gleen anything |
| 22:38.01 | brlcad | they weren't the cause |
| 22:38.19 | brlcad | albeit maybe in your case.. but that wasn't lasermania's problem |
| 22:38.54 | menotume | i'll confirm by unloading it when cpu usage gets over 20% again |
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| 22:39.49 | menotume | ahh, he DOES have recbuf |
| 22:39.55 | menotume | i'll get hi to remove it |
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| 22:54.19 | pianoboy333 | Anyone know a tutorial for BZEdit 1.6.5? I can't find one on google....... |
| 22:56.17 | JeffM2501 | there probably isn't one other then the info on the fourms |
| 22:56.58 | pianoboy333 | ....... |
| 22:57.00 | pianoboy333 | arg.....\ |
| 22:57.18 | CBG | Possible and ducatiwannabe's mappers forums... |
| 22:57.25 | CBG | possibly* at* |
| 22:57.47 | JeffM2501 | what did you need help with, it's a very simple app |
| 22:59.32 | pianoboy333 | I just want something to teach me how to use it |
| 23:00.14 | CBG | pianoboy333: http://www.rangfar.com/hosted/bzflagworld/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257 |
| 23:00.23 | CBG | pianoboy333: Aren't I kind to you? |
| 23:00.32 | pianoboy333 | yes u are.... |
| 23:01.53 | JeffM2501 | ahh the glorious day when that app is replaced by blender :) |
| 23:04.00 | pianoboy333 | What's blender? |
| 23:04.57 | JeffM2501 | 3d modeler |
| 23:05.41 | pianoboy333 | oh |
| 23:06.57 | pianoboy333 | How do you host a map? |
| 23:07.47 | JeffM2501 | you run a server |
| 23:07.48 | CBG | *sigh* |
| 23:07.54 | CBG | pianoboy333: make a map first. |
| 23:08.03 | CBG | Then work out how to run a server, ok? |
| 23:08.06 | JeffM2501 | there are many posts on how to run a server of the froums |
| 23:08.14 | pianoboy333 | And what do you do to change things like how many bullets you want the person to have and how fast they can drive. |
| 23:08.25 | JeffM2501 | that is part of the configuration |
| 23:08.28 | JeffM2501 | you read the manual |
| 23:08.49 | JeffM2501 | and learn how to run a server |
| 23:08.53 | pianoboy333 | The manual from where? Just any I find on the forums? |
| 23:09.08 | CBG | pianoboy333: go to http://www.rangfar.com/hosted/bzflagworld/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257 |
| 23:09.18 | pianoboy333 | Yea, I'm reading that |
| 23:09.22 | CBG | That is a post I made with links to everything else you might need. |
| 23:09.24 | JeffM2501 | www.bzflag.org |
| 23:09.35 | JeffM2501 | there is a "getting help" link on the left |
| 23:09.49 | JeffM2501 | it links to a page that tells how to get help, including links to the manual pages |
| 23:10.55 | CBG | pianoboy333: one last thing: I suggest you read the following link or at least the section entitled "Before You Ask"... http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 23:18.24 | pianoboy333 | One last thing... Is there a way to resize the map? |
| 23:18.41 | JeffM2501 | you can add a world object that changes the size |
| 23:18.50 | pianoboy333 | Ok, thx |
| 23:18.50 | JeffM2501 | read the bzw man page |
| 23:19.22 | pianoboy333 | Where? I'm still not sure where that is that your talking about. |
| 23:19.38 | JeffM2501 | www.bzflag.org |
| 23:19.40 | JeffM2501 | geting help |
| 23:19.53 | JeffM2501 | there are links to the 'man' pages there |
| 23:19.55 | trepan | ~bzw |
| 23:19.57 | ibot | [bzw] http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 23:19.57 | JeffM2501 | one is calle bzw |
| 23:20.00 | JeffM2501 | it goes over the map format |
| 23:20.01 | JeffM2501 | or that |
| 23:21.00 | pianoboy333 | Ah, ok |
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| 23:39.59 | pianoboy333 | I was reading the bzw man page guide, and I copied the very first example and BZEdit couldn't open it, it said it had the unknown object mesh, the last object in the example. |
| 23:48.43 | pianoboy333 | BZEdit won't open some maps cause they have weapon or mesh objects and such... Do I need a plugin of some sort? Help? |
| 23:53.23 | pianoboy333 | Fine, I won't bother u guys anymore.... |
| 23:56.30 | CBG | heh, bye bye |
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| 23:58.14 | Coder`TuX | hi, i having some trouble with the sound in bzflag... |
| 23:58.34 | Coder`TuX | i get this error in the console when i run the game: Couldn't open audio: No available audio device |
| 23:58.41 | Coder`TuX | can someone help me fix it? |
| 23:59.02 | CBG | Coder`TuX: What OS and bz version? |
| 23:59.15 | Coder`TuX | gentoo linux; bzflag 2.0.2 |
| 23:59.32 | CBG | Well, for a start, maybe try 2.0.4. |
| 23:59.47 | CBG | Its a later version, might just fix your problem. |