| 00:01.57 | orchid | ~seen tupone |
| 00:02.11 | ibot | tupone <n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 15m 34s ago, saying: 'ahh ok, you quit'. |
| 00:05.10 | TD-Linux | trepan: thanks, works great on graph paper, now to just implement it :) |
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| 00:21.42 | trepan | TD-Linux: you'll need all 5 block types to fill in any random edge pattern |
| 00:22.13 | TD-Linux | only have three, but I will pick suitable ones for the two I'm missing |
| 00:22.24 | TD-Linux | and affect the connection graph to suit |
| 00:22.28 | TD-Linux | err |
| 00:22.32 | TD-Linux | *as I go |
| 00:23.22 | trepan | the edge graph will have cell interdepencies, easier to just provide all 5 blocks |
| 00:24.26 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 00:24.50 | TD-Linux | don't have all 5 yet, for now I'll just substitue in cross blocks, as they are universal |
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| 00:38.12 | trepan | TD-Linux: heh, forgot, 6 types, 0 connections ... |
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| 02:17.12 | ohm | Hi |
| 02:17.38 | blast007 | hello |
| 02:18.01 | ohm | do you use bzflag 2.4? |
| 02:18.14 | a-delusion | 2.0.4 i do |
| 02:18.17 | blast007 | yeah, I use 2.0.4 |
| 02:18.36 | ohm | any problem? |
| 02:18.39 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I'm on 2.0.5 |
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| 02:19.39 | ohm | since I change the version to 2.0.4 I could not kill any body |
| 02:19.47 | a-delusion | wish i could compile 2.0.5 on intel mac, I don't have the makefile |
| 02:20.15 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ohm: Do you know if it was compiled using an early version of GCC4? |
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| 02:21.57 | ohm | gcc 4.0.2 on a Athlon64 XP 3500+ with Suse 10.0 |
| 02:23.00 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hmm.. I don't think the GCC4 / -O2 bug was there in 4.0.2 |
| 02:24.36 | ohm | witch bugreports? on bzflag site or gcc site?? |
| 02:25.19 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ohm: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1191085&group_id=3248&atid=103248 <--- this is the one I was thinking of |
| 02:25.34 | PuMpErNiCkLe | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=103248 <--- main bug reports page |
| 02:25.46 | ohm | Ok, thank you |
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| 04:45.53 | brlcad | JeffM2501: how is it that you don't have /n/r issues in the BZFlag studio files? Is there a setting for that or do you do something so that it doesn't come back and say "project files are corrupt"? |
| 04:49.41 | JeffM2501 | I use a cvs tool that dosnt' suck :) |
| 04:50.59 | orchid | JeffM2501: are going to buy a dell now? |
| 04:51.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 04:51.08 | orchid | yay |
| 04:51.18 | JeffM2501 | when I get the cash |
| 04:52.39 | orchid | hmm, if you work for SEGA, anything you write, even in your spare time belongs to them |
| 04:52.53 | orchid | doesn't seem fair |
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| 04:59.07 | purple_cow | orchid: *anything* or just anything within their section of the industry? |
| 04:59.19 | purple_cow | the latter is a pretty common employment condition |
| 04:59.50 | orchid | purple_cow: theres a gpl game called trigger, he had to mak a final release as he wasnt allowed to code on it anymore |
| 05:00.05 | orchid | I guess games, yeah |
| 05:00.28 | orchid | http://www.positro.net/trigger/ |
| 05:00.58 | orchid | although he says "i cant work on anything" |
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| 05:03.04 | brlcad | JeffM2501: any one in particular you recommend? |
| 05:03.21 | JeffM2501 | on windows? |
| 05:03.40 | JeffM2501 | there is only one true cvs client on windows |
| 05:04.07 | brlcad | he can't "work on anything" means "anything that he wants to work on" I'd bet.. i.e. a game ;) |
| 05:04.28 | JeffM2501 | anything I write at work, the compay owns |
| 05:04.39 | JeffM2501 | any cad/cam software I write anywheere they own |
| 05:04.45 | JeffM2501 | but I can make other things |
| 05:05.19 | orchid | :) |
| 05:05.19 | JeffM2501 | shhhh :) |
| 05:05.23 | JeffM2501 | they don't care |
| 05:05.27 | JeffM2501 | bossman even knows |
| 05:05.47 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, tortouice cvs on windows cures all ails |
| 05:05.49 | Aribeth | gee...wish i had a job like that |
| 05:06.12 | orchid | I wish I had a job where there are no phones |
| 05:06.43 | Aribeth | i want a kog with no bosses |
| 05:07.01 | Aribeth | er..job |
| 05:07.40 | bryjen | lotsa cogs, no big wheels |
| 05:08.04 | brlcad | JeffM2501: danka, good to know |
| 05:08.25 | JeffM2501 | it does automatic line conversions |
| 05:08.28 | JeffM2501 | normal CVS dosnt' |
| 05:08.31 | brlcad | so it would likely give you a corrupted project if you downloaded the .tar.gz source tarball and tried to open the project file? |
| 05:08.36 | JeffM2501 | the projects are acutaly stored in cvs as unix |
| 05:09.07 | JeffM2501 | and you HAVE to use a converting tool or it won't work |
| 05:09.16 | JeffM2501 | that's why I make a source zip |
| 05:10.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah, most untarbaly things don't convert |
| 05:10.33 | JeffM2501 | winzip will |
| 05:11.42 | JeffM2501 | I wanted to do them binary but fearless wanted them text |
| 05:11.44 | JeffM2501 | so they are text |
| 05:12.12 | brlcad | hmm |
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| 05:18.17 | blast007 | I don't know if VC7.1 cares about the line endings, cuz I always check out in UNIX format, and never had a problem |
| 05:18.42 | JeffM2501 | 7.1 and later should not |
| 05:18.44 | JeffM2501 | 6 does |
| 05:18.48 | JeffM2501 | 7 I don't know |
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| 05:25.13 | brlcad | 2003 is 8 ? |
| 05:25.13 | brlcad | or 7? |
| 05:25.35 | blast007 | my 2003 is 7.1 |
| 05:25.42 | JeffM2501 | 2003 is 7.1 |
| 05:25.48 | JeffM2501 | 2005 is 8 |
| 05:25.58 | JeffM2501 | ".net" is 7 |
| 05:31.01 | blast007 | http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/1603 |
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| 07:35.57 | doctorwhite | crap...get a blank screen wheb bzflag starts |
| 07:36.15 | lan56 | what os? |
| 07:36.45 | doctorwhite | linux |
| 07:36.49 | doctorwhite | fc4 |
| 07:38.31 | doctorwhite | lan56, any idea? |
| 07:38.55 | lan56 | well, no. but I am sure someone here does. I don't use linux to know, nor have I had similiar problems |
| 07:39.16 | lan56 | but there is a strong linux community here and on bzbb (it would be a good idea to post a topic there too) |
| 07:39.28 | lan56 | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ should nobody respond here |
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| 07:54.26 | doctorwhite | hello? |
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| 08:34.09 | orchid | doctorwhite: black screen? |
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| 08:36.29 | orchid | doctorwhite: if the game starts but it's a black screen try with the -directory option "-directory /usr/share/bzflag" or where ever fc4 installs it |
| 08:36.58 | doctorwhite | i think its a driver problem |
| 08:37.07 | doctorwhite | im fixing it |
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| 09:26.43 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ping ? |
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| 10:09.49 | SilverFox | is --disable-client the quickest way to compile bzfs? |
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| 10:29.43 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ping ? |
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| 11:38.59 | Grumbler | morning all |
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| 12:02.44 | Birdie | grrrrrrrrrrrrumbler |
| 12:03.26 | Grumbler | Biiiiiiirrrrrrrrdiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee |
| 12:04.00 | Birdie | :) |
| 12:04.09 | Birdie | ready for a new day at work? |
| 12:05.33 | Grumbler | i am already at work....kicking butt and taking names, coffee in the system, feeling good, the sun is up, let it role baby |
| 12:05.49 | Birdie | what are you doing for work? |
| 12:06.04 | Birdie | oh oh grumbler is a "morning guy" who loves to stand up early? |
| 12:06.42 | Grumbler | I am the MAN |
| 12:07.17 | Grumbler | I am the alpha and omega at work, for I am the quizartshaddarack |
| 12:08.09 | Birdie | i have no idea what i should understand under what you said there what you do for work:) |
| 12:08.27 | Grumbler | electrical engineering consulting |
| 12:09.11 | Grumbler | ...and coffee consulting, but I am not getting paid too much for that |
| 12:09.43 | Birdie | oooh elektric, thats my skill to:) |
| 12:09.50 | Birdie | coffee is very important! |
| 12:09.53 | Birdie | (although i dont like it:) ) |
| 12:10.24 | Grumbler | coffee is an acquired taste.....much like espresso |
| 12:11.57 | trepan | Grumbler: kwisatz haderach? |
| 12:12.34 | Grumbler | maybe, i never actually read the book |
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| 12:38.50 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: hi there! |
| 12:38.58 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: now i'm up |
| 12:39.44 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ok !!! hi !! i received msg you told me something yesterday but i did not get it |
| 12:42.55 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: well... there wasn't much to get |
| 12:43.16 | LePoulpe303 | lol |
| 12:43.21 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: i inform in the bzleague forums about my jabber bot to check for online players |
| 12:43.33 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: and doc holiday told me about your bzmanager |
| 12:43.45 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: so i write you before even get to the page! ;) |
| 12:44.24 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: just want to get in touch in case in the future arise an idea that we can work together |
| 12:44.37 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: since i see this bzmanager its done in python |
| 12:44.43 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: my bot too :) |
| 12:45.39 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: the bot is far from being ready to release but it's mostly functional, you can check it adding a jabber contact: bzbot@jabber.org |
| 12:46.17 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: basically it tries to provide the same information that bzmanager provides |
| 12:46.47 | LePoulpe303 | your bot sounds really intersting for me |
| 12:46.51 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: but i don't have tested too much bzmanager |
| 12:46.54 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: do you use jabber? |
| 12:46.58 | LePoulpe303 | nope |
| 12:47.14 | LePoulpe303 | it's an IM protocol thaht's it ? |
| 12:47.26 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: yep |
| 12:47.41 | LePoulpe303 | i think miranda handles it ; let me check |
| 12:47.44 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: what system do you use? mac, windows, linux, plan9? |
| 12:47.54 | LePoulpe303 | windows xp and ubuntu |
| 12:48.09 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: well, if miranda doesn't do, check for gajim client |
| 12:48.13 | LePoulpe303 | i can use jabber on miranda (for win) |
| 12:48.22 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: cool! |
| 12:48.36 | LePoulpe303 | whats is the refresh delay of your data ? |
| 12:48.49 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: take an account on jabber.org (or anywhere you want) and then add that contact i told you before |
| 12:48.58 | LePoulpe303 | k |
| 12:49.01 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: we have our own database |
| 12:49.22 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: we are having some troubles with that portion of soft since there are way too much forks |
| 12:49.51 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: we have done some test and minimun time was 50 seconds, and maximun was about 2 1/2 minutes |
| 12:50.31 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: but the delay time for being messaged by the bot it's going to be user defined |
| 12:50.37 | LePoulpe303 | ok ; 2 to 5 times faster than mybzflag site ; intersting for me !!!! |
| 12:51.03 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: with a minimun of ... don't know, maybe 3-4 minutes and maximun whatever user wants |
| 12:51.31 | LePoulpe303 | do u think it's easy to request programmatically data on a jabber bot ? |
| 12:51.58 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: well, thats for the automatic messaging, you can get inmediate results if you ask manual for a server or a player (that last still not implemented) |
| 12:52.28 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: do you mean to be used by a third party program? |
| 12:52.38 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: i think yes if it is that |
| 12:53.45 | LePoulpe303 | because it would be interesting for my bzmanager to ask your bot instead mybzflag website |
| 12:54.33 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: in fact, parallel to that project my coworker friend started a jabber client for the CLI, so i think with something like that would be fairly easy to get info |
| 12:54.47 | LePoulpe303 | brb |
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| 13:00.19 | conanhome | by the way, anyone is invited to test the bot |
| 13:00.49 | conanhome | if you see it going offline it's because we are being actively developping missing stuff right now |
| 13:01.06 | conanhome | (or maybe because it crashed ;) |
| 13:01.18 | conanhome | anyway, can i put the announce in the topic? |
| 13:02.01 | conanhome | brlcad: ? |
| 13:02.03 | conanhome | purple_cow: ? |
| 13:02.05 | conanhome | learner: ? |
| 13:02.23 | brlcad | woof |
| 13:04.00 | conanhome | something like: "Check the new jabber bot! Add bzbot@jabber.org to your contacts and find your bzflag pals online." |
| 13:04.09 | conanhome | or maybe something shorter |
| 13:07.45 | brlcad | something considerably shorter |
| 13:10.36 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ok jabber account created; bot added to contacts |
| 13:11.05 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : where can i find commands i can send ? |
| 13:11.38 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: send it a 'help' |
| 13:11.55 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: it doesn't say anything uppon registration? hum... should fix that |
| 13:12.45 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: then you can do 'help <command>' too |
| 13:13.19 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: 'players' and 'teams' commands are inmediate, they check against the bzflag server |
| 13:13.26 | LePoulpe303 | stucked |
| 13:13.36 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: you or it? |
| 13:13.40 | LePoulpe303 | i said players and it does'nt answer |
| 13:14.15 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: it just crashed on a chestal message :( |
| 13:14.20 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: let me start it again |
| 13:15.33 | Chestal | sorry :-) |
| 13:15.37 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: there are some bad programmers this days ;) |
| 13:15.46 | conanhome | Chestal: it's not your fault! |
| 13:15.58 | conanhome | Chestal: you were adding a user to seek? |
| 13:16.45 | Chestal | "seek_player mr show" |
| 13:16.53 | Chestal | wasn't quite sure how to handle the multi-word callsign |
| 13:18.07 | conanhome | Chestal: i just discover we still don't have management for multiword callsigns :( |
| 13:18.29 | conanhome | Chestal: i tried to add "mother mellus" and i save just "mother :( |
| 13:18.34 | conanhome | Chestal: working on that now |
| 13:18.45 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : using quoting would be the easier way |
| 13:18.54 | Chestal | yes, those blanks in callsigns are a nuisance for commands |
| 13:20.59 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: the thing is i have an optional parameter after, for minutes delay between checks, got to add some print statements to see what is happening |
| 13:21.35 | conanhome | well, give it a try, bot will be up and down through the day while i add new stuff and fix problems |
| 13:24.31 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : ok 'ill check it |
| 13:41.32 | LePoulpe303 | conanhome : do u plan to add possibility to be warned when your mates are online ? |
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| 13:49.06 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: that's is already implemented, but it can't work if the bot is crashing :( |
| 13:49.22 | conanhome | Chestal: you tried to add again a multiword nick? |
| 13:49.35 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: i see you now |
| 13:49.48 | LePoulpe303 | i see me 2 :D |
| 13:50.23 | conanhome | LePoulpe303: don't feed it multiword sign still |
| 13:53.22 | Chestal | conanhome: no, "seek_player Comanche" |
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| 14:51.59 | Chestal | conanhome: did I kill it again? |
| 14:52.19 | Chestal | conanhome: just tell me if I should wait with testing |
| 14:52.24 | SportChick | Chestal: meanie |
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| 15:03.01 | Birdie | chestal: did you saw a late joiner is in your 1vs1 group? |
| 15:03.12 | Chestal | yes, just saw it |
| 15:03.14 | Chestal | fun :-) |
| 15:03.27 | Birdie | will be a little harder to win your group now:) |
| 15:04.09 | Chestal | now it's by far the hardest group IMHO |
| 15:04.22 | Chestal | must think ofsomeone to push into fanta group fast :-) |
| 15:04.48 | Birdie | C isnt that easy either |
| 15:08.16 | conanhome | Chestal: bzbot keeps crashing when you try to add Comanche, i added Comanche and it went ok... i'm seriously lost, gonna add more prints |
| 15:12.52 | Chestal | Birdie: hmm, janis, doesn't really ring a bell |
| 15:13.23 | Birdie | not that good but still, concentrate when you play him |
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| 15:15.41 | Chestal | well, I don't, he's in C |
| 15:17.33 | Birdie | oh ya, ops |
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| 15:35.30 | TheRedBaron | I'm having some slight trouble with the number of observer slots on my bzflag server |
| 15:36.02 | TheRedBaron | i have -mp 0,10,0,0,10,20 |
| 15:36.05 | TheRedBaron | -mp 40 |
| 15:36.31 | TheRedBaron | a max of 40 players and a max of 10 reds vs 10 purples |
| 15:37.05 | TheRedBaron | however, it will not give me a max of 20 obs |
| 15:37.12 | TheRedBaron | instead I get a max of 5-7 obs |
| 15:37.51 | TheRedBaron | from the bzfs manpage: Sets the maximum number of players, total or per team. A single value sets the total number of players allowed. Five comma separated values set the maximum for each team. If a count is left blank then no limit is set for that team, except for the limit on the total number of players. Both forms may be provided. |
| 15:38.02 | Chestal | hmm, you don't need -mp 40 in your case, shoudl still work as far as I can see |
| 15:38.32 | TheRedBaron | I added -mp 40 |
| 15:38.47 | TheRedBaron | because the server was only allowing a 3vs3 |
| 15:39.56 | Chestal | only giving the long form should suffice, unless you want to limit number of total players. Looks liek the server ignors it in your case or something |
| 15:40.06 | TheRedBaron | when i try to restart the server using -mp 0,10,0,0,10 |
| 15:40.13 | TheRedBaron | leaving the obs slot blank, i get this message |
| 15:40.27 | TheRedBaron | "improper player count message" |
| 15:40.40 | TheRedBaron | errr "Improper player count list" |
| 15:40.52 | Chestal | you have to add the trailing comma in that case |
| 15:40.58 | TheRedBaron | ah |
| 15:41.20 | Chestal | default is 5 Observers |
| 15:41.47 | TheRedBaron | but if i use the the long form, along with -mp 40 |
| 15:42.08 | TheRedBaron | according to the manpage, if I have a 5vs5, i should be able to fit 30 obs right? |
| 15:42.16 | TheRedBaron | 5 reds and 5 purples |
| 15:44.43 | Chestal | it should, yes |
| 15:45.03 | TheRedBaron | ~bzfquery shellshock.bzflag.bz:5159 |
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| 16:05.47 | Pimpinella | has anything changed about building plugins? |
| 16:06.06 | Pimpinella | what do i need to do exactly to make them build? |
| 16:07.30 | Chestal | Pimpinella: reportedly /championship does not work on pimpi 5155 |
| 16:08.29 | Pimpinella | Chestal: yeah, fond no time to install the championship enabled version yet, just building |
| 16:08.52 | Chestal | ah, ok, matches are being played with /official right now |
| 16:09.25 | Pimpinella | somebody should have told me january has no 32 days ;) |
| 16:10.00 | Chestal | yeah, same surprise each year ;-) |
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| 16:24.09 | bz1565 | kk |
| 16:24.43 | menotume | Pimpinella: ./configure --enable-shared |
| 16:24.47 | menotume | unless it's changed |
| 16:25.50 | Grumbler | menotume: it always changes |
| 16:26.42 | menotume | hehe |
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| 16:27.01 | menotume | Pimpinella: ./configure --enable-today's-options |
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| 16:30.52 | MFT | Anyone know why a bzflag client would cause dropped tcp packets? |
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| 16:59.52 | conanhome | hi, there is a second test bot for jabber bzbot at bzbot@lugmen.org.ar |
| 17:00.21 | conanhome | we are doing furious testing now, if someone wanna try that one too, we would be gratefull |
| 17:00.38 | conanhome | (we need to see when is crashing) |
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| 17:04.09 | MFT | I'm pretty IRC rusty, but does anyone know why a bzflag client would drop tcp packets? |
| 17:04.30 | MFT | Or can the client even effect the tcp layer? |
| 17:08.02 | BearPerson | firewall / bad NAT |
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| 17:32.33 | brlcad | menotume: it's changed ;) |
| 17:32.47 | brlcad | at least on head |
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| 18:50.18 | brlcad | menotume / Pimpinella : now it's back to ./configure --enable-plugins again on cvs head |
| 18:50.30 | brlcad | which will probably be made a default here soon |
| 18:50.40 | brlcad | when I get to ripping the top level configure a new one |
| 18:50.52 | brlcad | there is no need to do a --enable-shared any more |
| 18:51.17 | brlcad | plugins have their own configure so they can be forced to shared-only, while bzflag can be forced to static-only |
| 18:51.22 | brlcad | fun fun |
| 18:51.39 | menotume | huh? head only ? |
| 18:52.08 | brlcad | head only |
| 18:52.08 | menotume | i'm getting incompatible API now on 20 branch :( |
| 18:52.13 | menotume | okies, thx |
| 18:52.22 | brlcad | haven't touched the branch |
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| 18:57.08 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
| 19:02.02 | CIA-16 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/menus.cpp: pick MP3 for bgm first, before ogg, most end users will have mp3, defualts will be ogg |
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| 19:05.53 | CapN | oh meano |
| 19:06.05 | CBG | hey CapN |
| 19:06.10 | CapN | hi cbg |
| 19:06.16 | CapN | he must be sleeping |
| 19:06.24 | CBG | No, he is active. |
| 19:06.29 | CBG | menotume!!!!! |
| 19:06.32 | menotume | *snoar* |
| 19:06.35 | CapN | lol |
| 19:06.37 | CBG | hehe |
| 19:06.41 | CapN | Hi |
| 19:06.45 | menotume | hellos |
| 19:06.52 | CapN | Fanta sent me to get you |
| 19:06.56 | CapN | :) |
| 19:07.04 | menotume | uh ohs |
| 19:07.10 | CapN | can i stil join the 1 on 1 |
| 19:07.11 | menotume | i haven't played yet today |
| 19:07.12 | CapN | :) |
| 19:07.19 | CapN | no time like the present |
| 19:07.27 | menotume | :) |
| 19:07.39 | menotume | you are in 1v1 - check you email |
| 19:07.49 | CapN | really!!! cool....I think |
| 19:08.04 | menotume | and here ... http://1vs1.bzleague.com/champ06.php |
| 19:08.32 | CapN | geez...i need to re-register here...cant do anything |
| 19:08.55 | Chestal | CapN: you're lucky, only easy opponents like myself |
| 19:09.00 | CapN | uh oh |
| 19:09.12 | CapN | you always kick my tail |
| 19:09.17 | CapN | you and Meno |
| 19:09.42 | CapN | alright..i better go practice again |
| 19:09.47 | CapN | :) |
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| 19:40.47 | Birdie | jeffm2501: i changed the emailadress for my bzbb account but now i cant login anymore |
| 19:41.02 | Birdie | i had to type my password to support the change, maybe i did something wrong |
| 19:42.33 | Birdie | or is another bzbbadmin there? |
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| 19:44.26 | Birdie | when i press on "forgot password" it says my account is currently inactive |
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| 19:46.36 | Chestal | maybe it sends a mail to your new address and you have to reply to confirm or somethng? |
| 19:46.43 | gsnedders | no. |
| 19:46.50 | Birdie | checked that allready |
| 19:46.53 | gsnedders | if the account is inactive, it does nothing |
| 19:47.11 | Birdie | what can i do wrong with just changing an email?:( |
| 19:50.00 | gsnedders | type in the wrong address? |
| 19:50.17 | Birdie | checked, it was the good emailadress i gave |
| 19:50.40 | Birdie | and even if i "would" have typed a wrong password, it shouldnt bring my account inactive |
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| 19:59.23 | Birdie | oh GvzEvxre: maybe you can help me? |
| 19:59.54 | TimRiker | sup? |
| 20:02.51 | Birdie | well: |
| 20:03.06 | Birdie | i changed my emailadress for bzbb account but now i cant login anymore |
| 20:03.14 | Birdie | account is inactive |
| 20:04.24 | Thumper_ | Birdie: that normally ships a message to your new account and you have to reply to that to reactivate it (I think) |
| 20:04.41 | Birdie | i didnt got any mail |
| 20:05.04 | CBG | Birdie: perhaps in your junk or spam area? |
| 20:05.14 | Birdie | i dont have a spam box in this email |
| 20:05.34 | Birdie | + its not the first time i get bzbb mails, they always came in my inbox |
| 20:05.35 | Guu` | Birdie: are you 12? |
| 20:06.43 | Thumper_ | Guu`: you're not being very helpful |
| 20:06.43 | Guu` | Thumper_: Wuo de ma! |
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| 20:15.51 | Birdie | i think i know the reason, i think my inbox was full on the moment i changed, and that it couldnt sent it |
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| 20:42.16 | Birdie | (nvm the great meno helped me) |
| 20:42.19 | Birdie | ~menotume++ |
| 20:42.22 | CBG | hehe |
| 20:45.03 | Grumbler | all hail the great menotume.....quick someone find three virgins and some sheep |
| 20:45.21 | Grumbler | ok, i probably should not have typed that last bit |
| 20:45.28 | Chestal | poor sheep |
| 20:45.41 | CBG | rofl Grumbler |
| 20:46.12 | menotume | hmmm |
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| 20:58.08 | Birdie | meno gets no respect here:) |
| 20:58.59 | bz9421 | anybody get the error code : could not set video mode when trying to run bzflag? |
| 20:59.14 | bz9421 | im running mandriva 2006 |
| 20:59.17 | CBG | Birdie: meno gets respect... from me atleast. |
| 20:59.40 | CBG | ~menotume++ |
| 20:59.49 | bz9421 | couldn't find GLX visual. |
| 21:00.03 | Grumbler | the rodney dangerfield of bzflag, that he is |
| 21:00.05 | bz9421 | If you couldhelp please let me know as i figure its something simple. |
| 21:00.41 | orchid | bz9421: what is your video card? |
| 21:00.54 | orchid | and do you have the right drivers installed? |
| 21:00.58 | bz9421 | an ati i beleive |
| 21:01.00 | bz9421 | yes |
| 21:01.12 | bz9421 | it works fine with everything else |
| 21:01.25 | orchid | glxgears work, yes? |
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| 21:01.40 | bz9421 | not sure what that is |
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| 21:02.04 | bz9421 | but it doesnt |
| 21:02.22 | bz9421 | it doesnt run though |
| 21:02.56 | bz9421 | it says: xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display 0,0 |
| 21:03.16 | orchid | ok, then you don't have accelerated drivers installed, and I don't know how to do that on mandriva |
| 21:03.26 | bz9421 | ok ill google it |
| 21:03.31 | bz9421 | thank you |
| 21:03.39 | orchid | they might have an irc channel too |
| 21:03.49 | bz9421 | my video card? |
| 21:03.55 | orchid | mandriva |
| 21:03.58 | bz9421 | o ok |
| 21:04.01 | bz9421 | thank you |
| 21:04.16 | orchid | nhmm your using web irc, not sure if you can join though |
| 21:04.43 | orchid | ah well |
| 21:06.16 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, you have to do the e-mail verification again |
| 21:06.18 | JeffM2501 | check your new mail |
| 21:06.44 | menotume | JeffM2501: it's resolved |
| 21:06.49 | JeffM2501 | ah ok |
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| 21:16.48 | SportChick | orchid: ping |
| 21:17.00 | orchid | hi SC |
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| 21:17.30 | SportChick | orchid: hiya |
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| 21:32.56 | BusyBeaver | lo carderz |
| 22:19.39 | TD-Linux | awwwwww |
| 22:19.47 | TD-Linux | 2.0 crashes on join |
| 22:21.44 | TD-Linux | is that a known problem? |
| 22:22.03 | BusyBeaver | yes |
| 22:22.14 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 22:22.15 | BusyBeaver | see bugnotes |
| 22:40.53 | JeffM2501 | bugnotes? |
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| 22:42.28 | BusyBeaver | yep |
| 22:42.37 | JeffM2501 | and what file would that be? |
| 22:42.45 | BusyBeaver | the notes where the bugs go in :) |
| 22:43.05 | BusyBeaver | bzbugs.gz |
| 22:43.24 | JeffM2501 | that file dosn't seem to be in the distro |
| 22:43.26 | BusyBeaver | iirc |
| 22:43.38 | TD-Linux | I found a BUGS file |
| 22:43.41 | TD-Linux | but that isn't in there |
| 22:43.44 | JeffM2501 | yes that is the bug list |
| 22:43.53 | JeffM2501 | I know of no global "crash on join" bug |
| 22:44.02 | JeffM2501 | that would be a very large bug |
| 22:44.06 | BusyBeaver | then you missed something |
| 22:44.13 | BusyBeaver | yeah indeed it is |
| 22:44.16 | TD-Linux | hmm... do you know what could be causing my client to crash, then? |
| 22:44.20 | JeffM2501 | so what you are saying is the game dosn't work |
| 22:44.29 | TD-Linux | it dosen't for me |
| 22:44.30 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, run it in the debuger find out |
| 22:44.31 | TD-Linux | 2.0 |
| 22:44.36 | TD-Linux | 2.1 works... |
| 22:44.54 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to see this bug report |
| 22:45.10 | JeffM2501 | I find it hard to belive that anyone would let it stay that way for any time |
| 22:45.13 | BusyBeaver | though its a known issue that it crashes abnormally on some redhat distributions |
| 22:45.30 | JeffM2501 | there is mention of a crash on a mallformed flag update packet |
| 22:45.37 | TD-Linux | in Visual C++, how do you tell it to debug bzflag and not bzadmin or bzfs? |
| 22:45.48 | TD-Linux | nvm, found it |
| 22:45.49 | JeffM2501 | set bzflag as the startup project |
| 22:46.27 | TD-Linux | 'no fonts found' hmm |
| 22:46.48 | BusyBeaver | normally ther is a dedicated list with all the special purpose fonts |
| 22:46.56 | BusyBeaver | so take a look there |
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| 22:50.45 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 22:51.04 | JeffM2501 | so what your telling me, is if I get current 2.0.x cvs, run a server and join it, I'll crash? |
| 22:51.34 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 22:51.35 | TD-Linux | windows |
| 22:51.38 | BusyBeaver | yes that wa sthe problem on some machines runnig redhat linux |
| 22:51.42 | BusyBeaver | too |
| 22:51.53 | trepan | 'no fonts found', set the data dir? |
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| 22:52.10 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, you have to set the working dir to the root to debug |
| 22:52.14 | TD-Linux | I fixed it by copying the data dir, but that would work too :) |
| 22:52.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah but that's lame |
| 22:52.35 | JeffM2501 | the projects copy the apps to the root for debug |
| 22:52.39 | JeffM2501 | and the deub files |
| 22:52.48 | BusyBeaver | yeah its much better to set it up in the ini |
| 22:52.48 | JeffM2501 | makes it run like it does in installed mode |
| 22:52.55 | JeffM2501 | ini? |
| 22:53.11 | TD-Linux | I started the debugger and got an instant stack overflow :/ |
| 22:53.14 | TD-Linux | have to go eat now |
| 22:53.15 | BusyBeaver | the bzflag startup script file |
| 22:53.21 | JeffM2501 | the config? |
| 22:53.24 | JeffM2501 | he's debuging |
| 22:53.31 | JeffM2501 | he just needs to set a path in the debuger |
| 22:53.36 | JeffM2501 | he's not running "normaly" |
| 22:53.39 | BusyBeaver | i mean the tcl startup script file |
| 22:53.44 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 22:53.46 | BusyBeaver | or was it phyton |
| 22:53.52 | JeffM2501 | windows dosn't have one of those |
| 22:54.05 | BusyBeaver | thats why you need to install that |
| 22:54.10 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
| 22:54.18 | JeffM2501 | have you ever actualy used windows before? |
| 22:54.22 | BusyBeaver | no? |
| 22:54.23 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't ship with python |
| 22:54.25 | JeffM2501 | or tcl |
| 22:54.29 | BusyBeaver | not? |
| 22:54.31 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' use "startup scripts" |
| 22:54.32 | BusyBeaver | crazy |
| 22:54.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:56.47 | JeffM2501 | well lets just see about this crash then shall we |
| 22:57.21 | JeffM2501 | somehow I doubt that mr. trepan would have left the project in a state such as that ;) |
| 22:57.33 | trepan | huh? |
| 22:57.34 | JeffM2501 | and it would just be marked as a "bug" |
| 22:57.44 | JeffM2501 | they are saying that 2.0.x crashes on join |
| 22:57.54 | JeffM2501 | and it's marked in some sort of "bugnotes" |
| 22:57.55 | trepan | care to be a little more specific? |
| 22:57.59 | BusyBeaver | ok i have the following settings in th emain config, i set it up to use ogre 3d though, wgich works well but if there is a join i get a crash on may client |
| 22:58.12 | JeffM2501 | ogre? |
| 22:58.18 | JeffM2501 | what does ogre have to do with bzflag? |
| 22:58.27 | BusyBeaver | i run it with that |
| 22:58.32 | JeffM2501 | we don't use ogre |
| 22:58.42 | JeffM2501 | are you sure your talkind about bzflag? |
| 22:58.53 | BusyBeaver | hm 100% |
| 22:58.58 | trepan | BusyBeaver: you're either in the wrong channel, intentional being a pain, or remarkably dumb |
| 22:58.58 | JeffM2501 | ogre is a 3d engine |
| 22:59.08 | purple_cow | or all of the above! |
| 22:59.10 | BusyBeaver | i know |
| 22:59.26 | JeffM2501 | bzflag ships with no "start" scrips |
| 22:59.31 | BusyBeaver | so as i said i setted it up to run with ogre as the main rendering engine |
| 22:59.32 | JeffM2501 | if you have one, you made it, or your distro dis |
| 22:59.45 | JeffM2501 | BusyBeaver, you moded your code to use ogre? |
| 22:59.47 | purple_cow | BusyBeaver: amazing! |
| 22:59.53 | JeffM2501 | how long did that take? |
| 23:00.00 | JeffM2501 | be some decent mods I'd think |
| 23:00.02 | BusyBeaver | 2 weeks :) |
| 23:00.17 | JeffM2501 | then you shoudl be able to debug it and see what you broke |
| 23:00.41 | BusyBeaver | yeah i though maybe its a know issue |
| 23:00.58 | BusyBeaver | but i have to step into it, though |
| 23:00.58 | JeffM2501 | we would not leave the game in a busted state like that |
| 23:01.02 | JeffM2501 | that is part of developing |
| 23:01.05 | JeffM2501 | debuging ya know |
| 23:01.09 | BusyBeaver | allright |
| 23:01.11 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to see your mods tho |
| 23:01.32 | JeffM2501 | they must be rather extensive |
| 23:03.10 | BusyBeaver | i just pass the rendering code to ogre, i have a scene node and entity for each unitin the world |
| 23:03.38 | JeffM2501 | "rendering code" ? |
| 23:03.44 | JeffM2501 | all our code is openGL |
| 23:03.52 | BusyBeaver | my not |
| 23:03.58 | BusyBeaver | i dont deal with opengl |
| 23:04.51 | PuMpErNiCkLe | o_O |
| 23:05.22 | BusyBeaver | now i have like running it on a config script at all :) |
| 23:05.24 | purple_cow | it's just like that guy 5 years ago who ported it to directX! |
| 23:05.31 | BusyBeaver | which is quite comfortable |
| 23:05.58 | purple_cow | BusyBeaver: show us code or shut up :P |
| 23:06.05 | JeffM2501 | so you replaced all the GL with ogre calls? |
| 23:06.27 | BusyBeaver | i mean i can handle all the details and lods, shadows, particles, and shader effects all with scripts |
| 23:06.34 | JeffM2501 | that kind of implies that you "deal" with the GL in some way |
| 23:06.35 | BusyBeaver | JeffM2501: yep |
| 23:06.42 | JeffM2501 | can we see the code? |
| 23:06.47 | BusyBeaver | sure |
| 23:06.55 | JeffM2501 | I had looked into this last year |
| 23:07.00 | JeffM2501 | but lost intrest |
| 23:07.09 | BusyBeaver | ok |
| 23:07.17 | BusyBeaver | where should i put the code |
| 23:07.26 | BusyBeaver | to make it available |
| 23:07.31 | JeffM2501 | you have a website? |
| 23:07.38 | JeffM2501 | or if you'd like you can e-mail to to me |
| 23:07.40 | BusyBeaver | not really |
| 23:07.47 | JeffM2501 | jeffm2501 at verizon.net |
| 23:07.48 | BusyBeaver | i can email |
| 23:07.54 | BusyBeaver | ok |
| 23:08.19 | BusyBeaver | 2 min :) |
| 23:08.38 | TD-Linux | BusyBeaver: you were thinking of something else, mine crashes right when you should be put in the tank, I think the problem is on my end |
| 23:11.45 | BusyBeaver | sending, 1mb |
| 23:12.15 | BusyBeaver | TD-Linux: yeah possible |
| 23:14.00 | BusyBeaver | JeffM2501: done |
| 23:14.04 | BusyBeaver | you should have it |
| 23:14.55 | JeffM2501 | indeed I do, thanks |
| 23:15.02 | BusyBeaver | yeah :) |
| 23:15.04 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:15.07 | BusyBeaver | hahahahaha |
| 23:15.10 | BusyBeaver | fuck u |
| 23:15.16 | BusyBeaver | damn sukerz |
| 23:15.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:15.33 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:15.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!n=thesippe@p549A5BC9.dip.t-dialin.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 23:15.34 | *** kick/#bzflag [BusyBeaver!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 23:15.38 | JeffM2501 | that's what I thought |
| 23:15.49 | JeffM2501 | freaking cell |
| 23:15.56 | JeffM2501 | I mean REALY, it's been years |
| 23:16.49 | PuMpErNiCkLe | wtf was that? |
| 23:17.00 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 23:17.00 | JeffM2501 | that was perfect cell |
| 23:17.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 23:17.09 | Birdie | he seems to like you very much |
| 23:17.10 | JeffM2501 | the most BORED german I know |
| 23:17.25 | brlcad | hehehe |
| 23:17.28 | brlcad | that was pretty good |
| 23:17.42 | JeffM2501 | that was the longest I've seen him keep it together tho |
| 23:17.48 | brlcad | no kidding! |
| 23:19.17 | menotume | JeffM2501: what was changed in the api in 2_0 ? |
| 23:19.43 | TD-Linux | how many viruses in the code he sent you? |
| 23:19.57 | menotume | .... does not contain bz_Load method, error ./bin/bzfs: undefined symbol: bz_Load |
| 23:19.59 | menotume | :( |
| 23:21.41 | trepan | JeffM2501: so it was #2 and #3 :) |
| 23:24.13 | JeffM2501 | menotume, not that I know of |
| 23:24.21 | menotume | hmm |
| 23:24.26 | menotume | okies |
| 23:24.44 | menotume | API version was recently bumped to 18 i think |
| 23:25.27 | menotume | someone else compiled the bzfs, i compiled the plugin ... must be something 'off' there |
| 23:28.28 | Pimpinella | hm, BusyBeaver was fraking around here for longer, no? |
| 23:29.00 | TD-Linux | BusyBeaver has been here for weeks, I think |
| 23:29.21 | TD-Linux | just randomly giving advice to get people on the wrong track, I think |
| 23:30.20 | Pimpinella | and sometimes giving wrong advice to people on the right track |
| 23:30.44 | Pimpinella | i think |
| 23:31.00 | TD-Linux | ~logs |
| 23:31.02 | ibot | [logs] http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 23:31.17 | Pimpinella | too much stuff |
| 23:31.30 | Pimpinella | reminds me of something tough |
| 23:31.39 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I can grep mine for his name if anyone really wants them... |
| 23:32.11 | Pimpinella | you could also do something useful instead... |
| 23:32.14 | TD-Linux | no |
| 23:32.24 | TD-Linux | I wanted to see if he got a record for talking to himself |
| 23:32.27 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Yes, like play on viper2 :) |
| 23:32.32 | TD-Linux | and his activity over the last 2 weeks |
| 23:33.15 | Pimpinella | hmm, is it still running as viper2? |
| 23:33.22 | PuMpErNiCkLe | yup |
| 23:33.28 | Pimpinella | :/ |
| 23:33.33 | Pimpinella | should fix that |
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| 23:36.56 | JeffM2501 | menotume, I havent' change the API code in months |
| 23:37.06 | JeffM2501 | the crash on join is real tho |
| 23:37.08 | JeffM2501 | I get it here |
| 23:37.09 | menotume | okies, it's running now |
| 23:37.16 | JeffM2501 | dosn't even pop into the debuger |
| 23:37.24 | menotume | ohh |
| 23:37.50 | JeffM2501 | the joy of steping thru |
| 23:38.08 | JeffM2501 | I think I can make some changes to the API that will make version changes be non destructive |
| 23:38.15 | JeffM2501 | have to use some more C++ tho |
| 23:38.23 | JeffM2501 | and that may not go over well with some |
| 23:38.45 | menotume | you don't HAVE to use C++ :) |
| 23:38.50 | JeffM2501 | no I don't |
| 23:38.57 | JeffM2501 | if I use C, then it's harder |
| 23:39.00 | JeffM2501 | then things do break |
| 23:39.06 | JeffM2501 | because all thigns are static |
| 23:39.19 | Pimpinella | whats wrong with c++? |
| 23:39.19 | JeffM2501 | if I use another language then we have another dependency |
| 23:39.26 | JeffM2501 | I say nothing |
| 23:39.33 | JeffM2501 | but some like the simpler bindings of C |
| 23:39.46 | JeffM2501 | my vision was to have the API be C++ |
| 23:39.59 | JeffM2501 | and then use plugins to bind the API to other langs, and do C wrapers |
| 23:40.01 | Pimpinella | go on then |
| 23:40.04 | JeffM2501 | or flat wrapers |
| 23:40.11 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, I have critics ;) |
| 23:40.13 | menotume | ok, if I do /loadplugin <blah blah>, it fails |
| 23:40.22 | menotume | if -loadplugin in conf, it works |
| 23:40.27 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 23:40.41 | JeffM2501 | fire up the debugerz |
| 23:40.43 | menotume | even stranger .... |
| 23:40.49 | menotume | my plugin takes one parameter |
| 23:41.19 | menotume | if I do /loadplugin nagware.so, it loads, but i display an error that the config wasn't specified |
| 23:41.37 | menotume | if I do: /loadplugin nagware.so xxx, it won't load at all |
| 23:43.22 | menotume | or, maybe just unload followed by load fails, that could be it |
| 23:44.25 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's dying in the processInputEvents |
| 23:44.59 | JeffM2501 | or no, it works fine |
| 23:45.04 | JeffM2501 | just messag crap on my end |